The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The 2024 GOP National Platform Will Be Donald Trump's - w⧸ Ed Martin ｜ The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone


Summary

Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Roger Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone with our upcoming guest, Ed Martin, who is the President of the Eagle Forum, but more importantly, a staff member and the Trump appointee to the Republican Platform Committee. Join us in The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone! Roger Stone is a former chairman of the Republican National Committee and is a regular contributor to conservative media outlets such as Fox News and conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard. The Stonezone is produced by Roger Stone and his partner, Slingshot News Editor-in-Chief Troy Smith. This episode was produced in part 2 of a 3 part mini-series on Roger Stone's interview with Ed Martin on his new book, "The Devil Next Door." Ed Martin is a pioneer of the conservative movement and has been a long-time supporter of conservative causes. . The Eagle Forum President, and was a member of the 2016 Republican National Committe, and served as an early supporter of President Trump's campaign in 2016 and in 2016, and now serves as the President s campaign chair on the Republican platform committee. and serves as a Senior Adviser to the RNC. , and is also a member on the 2018 Republican Platform Chair, on the 2020 campaign, and is the co-chair of the 2018 campaign committee, and serves on the 2016 campaign committee and 2020 campaign chair, and the 2020 presidential campaign in the 2020 primary campaign, and has a wife, among many other things, among other things. He is an accomplished political consultant, and writes for conservative publications, and travels regularly, and works in Europe, and his wife, and he is a good friend, and does all of these things, too, and so much more. Thank you, Ed, for coming on the show, and for being a good listen, and I hope you enjoy it, too. - Ed Martin and I appreciate it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:11.300 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:15.040 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:21.200 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:26.540 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:32.160 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:37.480 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:45.300 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:51.040 The tsunami of lawfare against President Donald Trump seems to be collapsing.
00:00:59.120 An indefinite delay in the Georgia case, coked up by George Soros and Fannie Wills.
00:01:06.340 The judge on the Florida documents case is now seriously looking at the legitimate argument as to whether Special Counsel Jack Smith was appropriately and legally appointed,
00:01:19.680 and whether he, in fact, has any legal authority.
00:01:23.260 This makes the radical left completely insane.
00:01:26.820 Joining me to talk about these and other matters, and to help me interview our upcoming guest, Ed Martin,
00:01:34.900 who is the president of the Eagle Forum, but more importantly, at this moment,
00:01:41.380 a staff member and the Trump appointee to the Republican Platform Committee.
00:01:47.700 First, my co-host, Slingshot.News editor-in-chief, Troy Smith.
00:01:54.440 Troy, welcome back into the zone.
00:01:56.820 Roger, it's always good to be here.
00:01:58.220 Nice to see you.
00:01:59.900 So, Ed Martin is really one of the pioneers of the conservative movement.
00:02:06.860 He, like me, we kind of came in in the middle.
00:02:09.840 We are comrades in arms from Ronald Reagan's campaign.
00:02:14.020 I should point out that Ronald Reagan, one of our greatest presidents, passed 20 years ago to death.
00:02:22.980 Just an extraordinary man, an extraordinary leader.
00:02:26.820 Our greatest president until Donald Trump.
00:02:31.340 Very, very similar to Trump in many ways.
00:02:34.340 Big picture men who understood the big issues and tried to leave small details to minions among the greatest presidents.
00:02:44.440 Let's bring Ed Martin in, because I don't want to miss any of his time, and he's on a tight schedule.
00:02:50.840 There he is.
00:02:52.140 Hey, great to see you, Roger.
00:02:53.580 Troy, good to be with you.
00:02:54.500 You're right, Roger, for many, many years.
00:02:57.240 Mostly, I didn't have somebody I could yell it at, like, get me Roger Stone, but I would just call Roger and say, hey, what does this mean?
00:03:03.760 How's this going?
00:03:04.540 I still remember, Roger.
00:03:06.280 You may not remember the details.
00:03:07.760 As I tell it all the time, August of 2016, long before the Billy Bush video and all, Roger called me.
00:03:15.840 I was in St. Louis.
00:03:16.960 I think he was in Florida, and he said, hey, we got to be ready for when they hit him with this stuff.
00:03:22.200 He knew it was, you knew it was coming, and you had some specific plans about what to do.
00:03:26.800 So, anyway, great to be with you guys, as always.
00:03:28.800 Thanks for the chance to talk and to be in the fight.
00:03:33.120 So, Ed, I assume you have grown this beard so that you can try to pass more easily in Milwaukee.
00:03:39.680 That's right.
00:03:40.220 That's right.
00:03:40.800 Exactly.
00:03:41.300 That's right.
00:03:42.020 This is my—I'm undercover, although, Roger, as you know, it's better to look good than feel good.
00:03:47.160 And I have had more people tell me, between the beard and the long hair, that I look 15 years younger.
00:03:53.360 So, I may never get a haircut again.
00:03:55.040 I don't know, you know.
00:03:55.720 But my wife just thinks, and my kids just make fun of me.
00:03:58.500 But here we are.
00:03:59.380 So, let's see.
00:04:00.600 I think you look great.
00:04:01.780 Look, on a personal note, when I was in Washington, D.C., when I was targeted in the Mueller witch hunt, which was nonsensical,
00:04:08.580 because even Mueller himself admits in his final report that he found no Russian collusion or WikiLeaks collaboration or any other crime by Roger Stone.
00:04:18.200 I went to mass with Ed and his entire family on the Sunday before the trial was to open.
00:04:24.640 It was a very meaningful, kind thing.
00:04:28.040 It really lifted me up for that day.
00:04:30.320 So, I want to express—
00:04:31.760 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:32.360 No, no.
00:04:32.720 It was great to be with you.
00:04:33.700 We had a great time.
00:04:34.420 It was a great photo of that day.
00:04:36.500 And even then, I think we knew we were in the middle of a battle.
00:04:40.120 But, of course, it got even more crazy after that.
00:04:42.860 But that was good.
00:04:44.100 It starts with God.
00:04:44.920 And I've always admired you and your wife and how you talk about what you've been through.
00:04:49.560 So, it was fun for my family to be with you.
00:04:51.880 That was a great day.
00:04:53.440 So, just to put some context on this, Ed is a former chairman of the Missouri Republican Party, a former Republican National Committee man from Missouri.
00:05:02.680 He was a former chief of staff to Missouri Governor Matt Blunt.
00:05:07.300 He also ran for attorney general of Missouri.
00:05:11.380 The voters made a bad decision there when they did.
00:05:14.660 Yeah.
00:05:15.620 But, as I said, he currently serves on the staff of the platform committee for the 2024 Republican National Convention, essentially designated as President Trump's point man on that committee.
00:05:29.000 Now, people don't know this, but in 2016, after Donald Trump had rolled up the delegates in primaries and caucuses and state conventions, there was still an effort by Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush and John Kasich.
00:05:45.620 Remember that group together, folks, because they're all the same, to try within credentials and rules to hijack the convention away from Donald Trump.
00:06:00.060 Ed Martin is one of the unsung heroes of that battle because that effort by the RINOs was crushed with the capable management of Paul Manafort.
00:06:10.700 That's right.
00:06:11.160 That's right.
00:06:12.160 Yeah, you know, no less an authority, Roger, than Phyllis Schlafly, when she heard that Donald Trump hired Manafort to run the convention, she said, oh, this is, thank goodness, you know, whoever Trump's listening to knows, because Manafort ran an unbelievably efficient system.
00:06:28.860 He made sure everything, the trains ran on time.
00:06:31.020 And more importantly, he, Donald Trump lived up to every one of his promises.
00:06:35.800 He promised Phyllis Schlafly a conservative platform.
00:06:38.400 He promised that he would stand up to the powers that be, and he did all that.
00:06:42.340 He did, and he started doing it at that convention.
00:06:44.240 So I always tell people, you know, Roger, you mentioned me going to mass with you.
00:06:48.120 You've been, you and I have been friends for a long time.
00:06:49.740 I didn't know Manafort much, but I've always admired him.
00:06:52.520 And I had him on my radio show, as you say, among the railroaded and persecuted.
00:06:58.200 He's probably one of the top guys that they, you know, that they really went after.
00:07:01.980 So we got to do that again, as you mentioned.
00:07:04.000 I'm honored that the president and his team thought I could help in this way.
00:07:07.660 And, you know, many people don't think the platform matters.
00:07:10.180 But I'll tell you, Donald Trump is nothing if not ambitious.
00:07:13.100 And his thinking is that this 2024 platform is really the first.
00:07:17.880 In 2016, we got a great platform.
00:07:19.780 But it still was a little backward looking.
00:07:22.000 It still had a bunch of stuff, I think, that was tied to the past.
00:07:25.320 And now we're looking forward.
00:07:26.660 And whether it's on the social issues and how to protect our families, or maybe more
00:07:32.000 importantly, on the notion of no more wars and putting American jobs first, we're excited
00:07:39.040 to put together this platform that will describe what I think is a hinge moment.
00:07:44.340 And for the next, I think, 50 years, it'll be from the Trump, this Trump moment going
00:07:49.180 forward.
00:07:49.640 I think it'll be a great renaissance for our nation.
00:07:52.060 So we're excited to do this.
00:07:53.260 You brought this up, so I have to address it.
00:07:57.340 So Phyllis Schlafly was a good friend and a great, great woman.
00:08:00.480 Really, the pioneers of the conservative movement coming out of the Goldwater campaign.
00:08:08.060 After her death, a fictional movie was made about her life, in which is that Paul Manafort
00:08:14.220 and I blocked her from a position in the Trump administration, which is 100% categorically
00:08:20.760 false.
00:08:21.100 First of all, I'm not sure she was ever interested in a position in the Trump administration,
00:08:26.220 but I would have supported her for anything.
00:08:28.160 That literally never happened.
00:08:30.100 That's fiction writing by leftist screenwriters.
00:08:33.940 Anyway, let us move on.
00:08:36.300 The biggest question, Ed, is an obvious one.
00:08:38.800 And that is the Republican Party is the party of life.
00:08:43.040 We are opposed to abortion on demand.
00:08:46.580 I think President Trump has struck the exactly correct balance on this issue.
00:08:53.260 His position is, by the way, identical to Ronald Reagan's being, first of all, it's not a federal
00:08:58.820 issue.
00:08:59.260 It's a state issue.
00:09:00.700 Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided.
00:09:02.540 We now know that.
00:09:03.960 It has been sent back to the states.
00:09:05.940 The Biden smear machine would have people believe that the Roe decision has made abortion illegal
00:09:12.720 in America, which, of course, is a blatant lie, an outrageous lie.
00:09:18.240 How do you see the platform addressing this?
00:09:22.120 Yeah.
00:09:23.040 Well, as you point out, it is a central issue for a lot of Americans.
00:09:27.380 They believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and they think that that matters.
00:09:30.760 But, first of all, let me make this comment, Roger.
00:09:34.020 Everything people are hearing in the press is typically, like usual, nonsense.
00:09:39.020 I can tell you I'm involved in every aspect of this.
00:09:42.060 And, you know, the reports from NBC News, you know, direct from the CIA and the Biden
00:09:46.480 administration, I suppose, is that there's all sorts of problems.
00:09:49.340 It's crazy.
00:09:50.280 I do think you put your finger on the most important part of this.
00:09:53.400 Number one, President Trump ran on putting good judges in to get the law respected.
00:09:59.960 Our Constitution, no less an authority than Justice Scalia, was saying for decades that
00:10:06.320 Roe v. Wade took away from the system what should be happening, which is we persuade each
00:10:11.480 other about how to make laws.
00:10:13.420 And so Donald Trump ran on that.
00:10:15.560 He delivered that.
00:10:16.540 And Roe v. Wade was thrown out.
00:10:17.980 It was thrown out, by the way, Roger.
00:10:19.580 I think many of us would have predicted it took another 10 years, maybe 20.
00:10:22.940 It was thrown out so quickly because Trump was fearless and because we got it done.
00:10:27.380 So now it's a brave new world.
00:10:29.300 And as to the sort of second point, we have to protect life.
00:10:33.000 That's true.
00:10:33.760 We have to fight for real protections.
00:10:35.620 We want as many places in many ways we can.
00:10:38.160 But we also have a cultural fight.
00:10:39.840 I mean, one of the realities now is you can't say to your neighbor, Roe v. Wade was an abomination.
00:10:44.960 Therefore, this whole thing is wrong.
00:10:46.700 You have to explain why it's life, why it matters, what the policies are that are going
00:10:52.560 to protect life.
00:10:53.740 And by that, I don't just mean what the policies are on, say, the Democrats want to have abortion
00:10:59.500 in the ninth month.
00:11:01.140 I mean, the governor of Virginia wants a Democrat, wants to allow babies to be born and then decide
00:11:06.460 if they can live.
00:11:07.340 These people are nasty and evil.
00:11:10.040 But that's not—I'm not talking about that.
00:11:11.680 I'm actually talking about how do we support moms, make sure that we have a system.
00:11:15.980 If you're poor in America, you can get your health care covered.
00:11:19.600 It's probably not good enough.
00:11:20.580 But you can get your health care covered if you're a mom.
00:11:22.540 But if you're middle class, working class, you're having trouble paying for the insurance
00:11:26.460 to get—now, Republicans used to say, I don't want anything to do with that.
00:11:30.180 Well, if you're pro-life, the conversation starts with how do you support the mother who's
00:11:35.220 in this position and how do you go forward from there?
00:11:37.720 So you're going to see a conversation about all that.
00:11:39.780 I'm very confident that there's—President Trump, by the way, has been clear that the
00:11:44.740 fight over abortion returning to the states doesn't mean that we're going to abandon
00:11:49.080 the lunatics that Biden has put in office at the NIH, at the FTA, that are saying abortion
00:11:56.140 until nine months is allowed, and chemical abortion can be shipped to women with no checks
00:12:01.420 and balances.
00:12:02.200 So there's plenty of ways we can be pro-life.
00:12:04.240 But the fight is going to be in our neighbor-to-neighbor to protect life.
00:12:09.240 And I think the platform will reflect that, and the platform will respect life in every
00:12:13.960 moment, especially, by the way, the end of life.
00:12:17.000 The Biden administration is hastening death through their policies.
00:12:20.920 And if you're an old person, you think that Biden is trying to scare you about your Social
00:12:24.820 Security, he's trying to put you on hospice fast because he doesn't want to have to pay
00:12:29.460 for your health care.
00:12:30.500 So President Trump is going to have to stand up to that, and that's going to be a piece
00:12:33.340 of what we call the life movement broadly.
00:12:36.640 So there's a lot of work to do, and we're doing a lot of listening, Roger.
00:12:40.160 Like you've always said, you know, the party is big.
00:12:43.260 It doesn't mean we're always going to agree, but we do need to be listening to each other,
00:12:46.260 and I'm doing a lot of that right now.
00:12:48.300 You mentioned Social Security, which to me seems to be one of the areas that needs to be
00:12:53.340 examined.
00:12:53.680 The House study group, which is 170 House Republicans, have come out in favor of a proposal to extend
00:13:02.140 the age before one can receive Social Security benefits, and then for essentially means testing
00:13:09.200 to cut your benefits if you have income beyond Social Security.
00:13:13.640 I call this political suicide.
00:13:16.200 That's what I call it.
00:13:17.980 That is not the position of the Republican Party.
00:13:21.760 It is most definitely not the position of Donald Trump, who has said repeatedly that he would
00:13:26.420 veto any changes in Social Security.
00:13:29.160 Yes, the Social Security trust fund is going to run out of money.
00:13:33.400 Yes, the federal government is spending billions of dollars on a war in Ukraine that we don't
00:13:38.300 need to be in.
00:13:39.140 That money could be used to shore up Social Security.
00:13:42.540 Billions, $160 billion would really help the Social Security trust fund right now.
00:13:48.200 So this is an issue where the Democrats absolutely want to make this election about three things.
00:13:54.080 Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
00:13:55.880 Well, we'll see about that.
00:13:57.060 January 6th, which we now understand was an inside job.
00:14:02.540 And then lastly, abortion.
00:14:04.880 Oh, the Republicans want to take away your right to an abortion.
00:14:07.980 No, the states make those decisions.
00:14:10.240 And then lastly, they're going to claim that we want to cut Social Security.
00:14:14.980 How do you see the platform addressing this?
00:14:16.960 Yeah, let me say, first of all, the president's been clear.
00:14:19.460 I've been clear.
00:14:20.080 Phyllis Schlafly, others.
00:14:21.300 We've always said on this, cutting Social Security and cutting Medicare for the deal that
00:14:25.280 we already had people make, that's an outrage.
00:14:27.280 I mean, that is exactly the opposite.
00:14:28.880 If you're Joe Biden and the Democrats, you do things like you say, sign on the dotted line
00:14:34.180 and get a loan, and then I'll forgive it for you.
00:14:36.940 I'll say that it's forgiven by making me and you pay for it.
00:14:40.360 But we're Americans, and we're people of principle.
00:14:43.020 And so I can tell you that Social Security will be protected.
00:14:46.180 In fact, the way I tell people all the time is, if you want Social Security to be not just
00:14:49.860 protected but more successful, you've got to get the hell out of the way and let the
00:14:53.420 economy grow.
00:14:54.300 And you've got to get the hell out of the way and inflation.
00:14:56.300 A tax, T-A-X, on your Social Security is what Joe Biden has done with inflation.
00:15:02.980 Because if you get a set amount, but you have to go buy something that's gone up by 50%,
00:15:07.300 like your bacon in my household where the bacon is way up and the kids are mad.
00:15:11.320 So we're going to have to protect our economy and grow it.
00:15:15.140 And as you point out, we're going to have to not spend almost $750 billion on green energy
00:15:23.020 handouts that John Podesta is literally passing out of the White House.
00:15:27.160 Have a meeting.
00:15:28.160 Give somebody $50 million, $100 million.
00:15:30.440 We've got to change our whole mindset on that stuff.
00:15:33.260 But I think you're right on the analysis, as usual, Roger.
00:15:36.540 But I'm with you on Social Security.
00:15:38.420 And I would say, again, one of the things that's tossed about by this president in talking
00:15:43.380 to us about this time is that he wants to change it.
00:15:49.600 And he wants us to dedicate our work to the forgotten man and the forgotten woman.
00:15:54.940 And right now in this country, the forgotten are the people who are working, the people
00:16:00.140 who did work, the people that are in places that are not blue and cities that are not blue
00:16:04.780 and that are not DEI.
00:16:06.360 And so I think there's a lot of that that has to do with our seniors who will protect
00:16:09.860 and our elders who will honor as well as protect.
00:16:13.640 For those of you who don't know, Ed Barton was the author of the New York Times bestseller,
00:16:18.820 the conservative case for Trump in 2016.
00:16:22.760 He also is the man who made sure that Phyllis Schlafly's seminal choice, Not an Echo, got
00:16:27.960 reprinted, which I'm proud to have a copy of.
00:16:31.080 He hosts his own show, The Pro-America Report.
00:16:35.740 You can find that at proamericareport.com.
00:16:39.620 And he's on X, formerly known as Twitter, as Eagle Ed Martin, Eagle Ed Martin.
00:16:48.340 We'll throw those up so people can see them.
00:16:53.100 Troy, do you have a question for this incredible patriot, Ed Martin?
00:16:58.120 Absolutely.
00:16:58.880 So we've seen that President Trump has been subject to such egregious lawfare and the criminal
00:17:03.760 justice system has really been used against him.
00:17:05.800 And what kind of, are there going to be new angles to criminal justice reform in this
00:17:10.700 platform?
00:17:11.160 I'd like you to talk about that.
00:17:12.560 Yeah, great question, Troy.
00:17:13.700 That's actually, one of the things I challenge people when they think about the platform and
00:17:17.100 going forward is think about what's actually new, right?
00:17:20.720 And in this, this is a great example.
00:17:21.920 I'm not a huge fan of the weaponization of DOJ language because I think people get used
00:17:26.940 to it and it sounds like, I don't know, like a bing bing, like a game.
00:17:30.080 As you know, lawfare is the word I prefer.
00:17:32.560 And look, I represented and continue to represent a couple of them, four January 6th defendants
00:17:37.840 and have worked with hundreds of others in total because I'm on the Patriot Freedom Project
00:17:42.780 board.
00:17:43.560 And what they did to these people, it's not as bad as what they did to Trump, but it's very
00:17:48.600 similar.
00:17:48.980 They took a law and they decided to use a law that had never been used that way as
00:17:53.980 a way to jam people up.
00:17:55.420 And they, they held people in jail for years based on a felony charge.
00:18:00.520 You know, they did this with Trump.
00:18:01.720 They, something that nobody said was anything is a felony charge, which sounds worse.
00:18:06.720 And under the law is worse.
00:18:08.300 You don't get jail time for misdemeanors.
00:18:10.120 So the idea of a felony is what they use to hold these people.
00:18:13.060 So as to going forward, I do think that there's, I describe it two ways.
00:18:17.380 There's an appetite for addressing that problem.
00:18:20.560 What I tell people is we need to be more creative about how we think about the, the, the battle
00:18:25.920 we're in, right?
00:18:26.860 We, we may be nice.
00:18:28.500 We can be nice, but we have to be just.
00:18:30.840 It's not, it's not revenge to be just and honorable, right?
00:18:34.340 It's so we have to number, that's number one.
00:18:36.040 Number two is we have to realize that the president has been a champion, amazingly, before this
00:18:43.400 for people that were convicted of, of the wrong kinds of policies, like Joe Biden putting
00:18:50.520 all those people in jail under his, the, the, the, the crime law aimed at people where, look,
00:18:56.920 I'm all for breaking, let's, let's be tough on crime, but be fair, be honorable, be serious.
00:19:02.060 And sending little old ladies to jail over praying in front of a clinic or sending 26
00:19:07.860 year old black men in jail for 30 years because it's a strike three.
00:19:12.140 That's what these other side is.
00:19:13.180 So I think Donald Trump somehow amazingly through all his suffering has become the empathetic,
00:19:19.760 not just the leader of, but a guy that's going through it.
00:19:22.900 And so I think you're going to see some of that energy in the platform.
00:19:26.860 And I hope and pray we'll see that in the next Trump administration.
00:19:29.960 Even asking, by the way, pardons used to be, you'd say pardons.
00:19:33.340 And, you know, I think the president realizes he, maybe he was running for a second term
00:19:36.680 and had to hold back a little.
00:19:38.720 I think he realizes that the pardons are not just a power that they are requirement in the,
00:19:46.260 in the, in the nation we're living in right now.
00:19:48.200 And I think very broadly, that's true.
00:19:51.780 I kind of echo what Troy said.
00:19:54.080 I mean, the Trump record on criminal justice reform is extraordinary.
00:19:57.100 The first step act, the second chance act, it is Joe Biden and his friend, Bill Clinton,
00:20:02.600 who gave us the harsh penalties for the first time, nonviolent crime of possession of small
00:20:09.080 amounts of drugs.
00:20:10.200 Yep.
00:20:10.380 That's right.
00:20:10.980 These drug treatment programs, not inexpensive taxpayer funded incarceration,
00:20:15.940 because they're not a danger to anyone other than themselves.
00:20:19.560 Uh, the, the, the idea of Joe Biden as a civil rights advocate is one of the funniest things
00:20:25.760 I can imagine.
00:20:27.120 It's true.
00:20:27.900 Our segregationist ran, uh, opposed, uh, in the 1972 Senate race, ran opposed to the
00:20:34.180 segregation of the Wilmington, uh, Delaware school system, said it would be a jungle if it
00:20:39.940 was, uh, desegregated.
00:20:42.000 That's the dog whistle if I have ever heard it.
00:20:45.560 Uh, uh, this may not be a question that you can answer.
00:20:49.200 Uh, I think that if they have a real democratic convention, not a viral convention, but, uh,
00:20:54.540 uh, not a virtual convention, but a real convention, they're looking at another 1968 type scenario.
00:21:00.620 Their, their left wing is unhinged.
00:21:03.780 They're pro BLM, pro Antifa.
00:21:07.340 Oh, change my t-shirt.
00:21:09.020 Now it's Palestine and Hamas.
00:21:11.240 They're the same people, uh, that they, they have huge numbers and they're dividing the
00:21:15.960 democratic party.
00:21:16.880 Uh, uh, what are we expecting, uh, in Milwaukee in terms of, uh, demonstrations?
00:21:22.580 And we pray of course, that if we, people do come there to demonstrate that they do so
00:21:27.480 peacefully.
00:21:28.420 Yeah, look, I, there, there are some aspects of things.
00:21:30.860 I think there are still some Bushies that want, uh, the world to include, uh, multilateral
00:21:35.580 trade deals and they're ramping up the chamber of commerce amnesty.
00:21:38.980 There's still some Republicans left that want amnesty, but I, as you say, I think ours
00:21:42.820 is by and large a, a friendly, uh, you know, uh, disagreeing and moving forward.
00:21:47.980 It's, it's Trump's party in terms of the policies, as well as the personality.
00:21:51.920 I will drop a little footnote for you, Roger on, on the Democrats, I, because I'm doing this
00:21:56.760 platform thing.
00:21:57.400 I hear from a lot of Republicans from all over the place that care about issues.
00:22:01.080 Like they care about X issue.
00:22:02.740 And I think you're right.
00:22:04.240 The civil war in this country and the political parties is in the Democrat party.
00:22:07.980 If you're a man, you can't be in the democratic party.
00:22:10.660 You're hated.
00:22:11.260 You are hated by the people that rule that party.
00:22:14.060 If you're a man that's in the party and leadership, you're people like Schiff and, and, uh, and,
00:22:18.980 uh, Swalwell, you're just kind of, uh, you know, you're milquetoast, uh, you know, kind
00:22:22.640 of guys that are broken and everybody sees it.
00:22:24.680 So there's a bunch of men, black men, Hispanic men that are like, wait, I thought I was going
00:22:28.600 to be a Democrat.
00:22:29.240 And they're looking at this part and you're going to feel that and see that in terms
00:22:32.660 of the civil war.
00:22:33.780 And then they have no way to solve the problem of their true antisemitic, uh, hatred, the,
00:22:39.420 the antisemitic, the AOCs and Bernie, the, uh, the policies are truly antisemitic and they
00:22:46.380 can't control that.
00:22:47.420 So I think, I think Chicago burns and I hope it doesn't, but I think it burns.
00:22:51.860 And I think in Milwaukee, we're going to come through this and we have a leader that has
00:22:56.040 united the party on, I'd say 95% of the issues and the choices.
00:23:01.000 And frankly, we all feel like the country is hanging in the balance.
00:23:03.900 So we're going to link arms and defend ourselves.
00:23:07.820 All right.
00:23:08.440 I promised Ed Martin that I would get him out the door for his next show.
00:23:12.020 And I keep my promise.
00:23:12.900 Thank you.
00:23:13.700 And I want to thank you for joining us here in the stone zone and God bless you.
00:23:17.900 Thank you, Roger.
00:23:18.820 And Troy, good to be with you.
00:23:19.880 Thank you guys.
00:23:20.380 I appreciate it very much.
00:23:22.860 All right, Troy, uh, there's a lot going on politically yesterday was not a very good
00:23:28.320 day for the, uh, those planning the, uh, the tsunami of lawfare against Donald Trump in
00:23:35.600 Georgia, uh, the appeals court there indefinitely postponed the Fannie Wills prosecution of Donald
00:23:43.680 Trump.
00:23:44.040 It's going to review the questions about her fitness to serve as a prosecutor.
00:23:49.360 Uh, believe me, people over at CNN were puking about this.
00:23:54.620 Uh, and then in Florida, uh, judge, uh, Eileen Cannon has announced, uh, an extensive hearing,
00:24:03.160 uh, on the question, uh, of whether special counsel Jack Smith was legally appointed and
00:24:10.220 whether he actually has current legal authority.
00:24:13.180 Now, this is, uh, uh, this issue was first raised by former Reagan attorney general Ed Meese,
00:24:20.820 uh, and two widely respected, uh, college law professors, uh, who filed an amicus brief
00:24:27.340 with the U.S. Senate.
00:24:29.300 No, it's not a, as the new republic would say, it's not a frivolous argument.
00:24:33.680 Any lawyer who says that is a bad lawyer.
00:24:36.260 It's a very legitimate, uh, uh, argument.
00:24:39.120 I saw Tom Massey, uh, destroy, uh, Merrick Garland online by simply asking, uh, uh, under
00:24:47.100 what law was, uh, Mr. Smith appointed, uh, and Garland had to admit there was no law.
00:24:53.320 So he, he's appointed him to a position that doesn't exist.
00:24:57.680 But more importantly, the underlying issue is whether or not his appointment was approved
00:25:02.900 by the U.S. Senate, which it wasn't, uh, this, uh, this, uh, uh, case was brought against
00:25:08.560 Robert Mueller.
00:25:09.520 In my case, a witness in my case brought the case at the trial court level and then at
00:25:14.840 the appeals level, but you got political decisions.
00:25:17.900 It's never gone to the Supreme Court.
00:25:20.120 If it ever gets to the Supreme Court, uh, I suspect that Mr. Smith will be out of business.
00:25:25.580 I think there's a very solid scholarship in this argument.
00:25:29.780 The hard left wants to blow this off as ridiculous.
00:25:33.380 No, they are the ones that are ridiculous.
00:25:36.440 So overall, a good day for President Donald Trump yesterday.
00:25:41.540 However, I do think it's a personal opinion.
00:25:44.780 Perhaps it's because of what I've gone through myself.
00:25:47.720 Uh, there is no question whatsoever that Judge Juan Merchant is going to sentence Donald Trump
00:25:53.880 for incarceration of some kind.
00:25:56.400 And there is no guarantee that he will stay that sentence, uh, pending appeal.
00:26:01.820 In fact, I would predict that it is unlikely that he do so.
00:26:05.820 Uh, that way he can become, uh, a famous hero on the American left.
00:26:10.360 He can probably get the federal judgeship that is being dangled, uh, in front of him.
00:26:15.320 Uh, and of course, uh, since sentencing is on the 12th of July, he could theoretically,
00:26:21.280 at least, uh, remand, uh, uh, President Trump, uh, immediately for incarceration or for home
00:26:29.460 confinement, uh, in which case the president, I'm not sure how he would attend the Republican
00:26:34.520 National Convention.
00:26:35.940 Uh, they, yes, they are capable of that level of evil.
00:26:41.120 I'm not sure why the president's lawyers asked for sentencing in mid-July as opposed to doing
00:26:46.780 it as soon as possible in June, uh, or, uh, alternatively doing it after the convention.
00:26:52.840 But, uh, I want to go on record now as, uh, as fearing the absolute worst.
00:26:58.120 I'm praying for the best.
00:26:59.820 Uh, I'm praying that the, that he'll be granted bail or that he'll be allowed to remain at
00:27:04.820 liberty pending appeal.
00:27:06.860 Uh, I'm not a lawyer and this does get kind of complicated.
00:27:10.340 I found out in the last 48 hours that, well, if you talk to the four smartest lawyers, you
00:27:15.340 know, you're going to get four completely different opinions.
00:27:18.240 Uh, on Friday here on the Stone Zone, Will Scharf, who's one of the president's lawyers
00:27:23.560 working on his appeal, will join us and perhaps he can illuminate us a little further.
00:27:29.820 Uh, all right, Troy, uh, those are the things that I found notable overnight.
00:27:34.840 Uh, what do you got for us?
00:27:36.560 Well, Roger, I wanted, it's just on your, your topic about Walmart, we have a video, uh, and
00:27:42.000 I wanted to ask if you saw the Hannity Trump, uh, interview last night, uh, and we'll, we'll
00:27:47.080 get your opinion on that.
00:27:48.120 And I, and, and Trump kind of talks about being jailed, the possibility of being jailed in
00:27:52.760 this clip.
00:27:53.260 Um, so get your reaction to the clip and, and, and your reaction overall to the Hannity Trump
00:27:57.560 interview on the other side of this.
00:27:58.860 You were asked about the possibility that Judge Marshawn might send you to jail.
00:28:05.580 You said something that really kind of got my attention.
00:28:10.080 What did you say?
00:28:11.120 That it didn't phase you in the sense that if that's what it takes, you don't have to
00:28:15.980 be doing this.
00:28:16.660 You could be playing golf every day and you probably wouldn't be charged with anything.
00:28:19.460 Well, I think I say in about almost all of these cases that are brought against me, they
00:28:24.500 are doing it for the purposes of hurting a political opponent of Biden and trying to get
00:28:29.020 him to win.
00:28:30.020 I think that's the worst president in the history of our country.
00:28:31.740 But in the case that you're talking about, I said very strongly that, uh, I'm very proud
00:28:36.740 to fight for our constitution.
00:28:38.120 And if that's what it takes, uh, everybody said, this is such a minor thing.
00:28:44.040 You don't go to jail for this, all of them, but you don't understand what we're dealing
00:28:47.960 against.
00:28:48.360 So we're dealing against these, a system that is so corrupt.
00:28:53.100 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
00:28:55.340 I did nothing wrong in any of these things.
00:28:58.080 I did nothing wrong.
00:28:59.480 We did nothing wrong at all.
00:29:02.380 And when you look at the analysts, whether it's, uh, Greg Jarrett or Andy McCarthy or Jonathan
00:29:08.740 Turley or your friend, the great one, Mark Levin, uh, Dershowitz, all of them, they said
00:29:14.980 there's no case here.
00:29:16.200 Judge Jeanine was so incredible two weeks ago.
00:29:19.760 She was unbelievable.
00:29:21.580 Angry.
00:29:22.180 She was angry.
00:29:22.660 And you know why they were angry?
00:29:23.860 Because I love our country and they see what's happening.
00:29:26.080 It's totally unconstitutional what they've done.
00:29:28.260 And if you look at the statements made by the people I just mentioned, and I'm not friends
00:29:34.200 with any, I mean, I think they respect what I've done.
00:29:36.540 They might respect me.
00:29:38.000 They might not respect me, but they said there's no case.
00:29:41.100 It shouldn't have been brought.
00:29:42.400 And the way the judge charged the jury, told the jury, gave jury instructions, nobody's ever
00:29:48.280 heard anything like that.
00:29:49.420 Uh, Troy.
00:29:51.560 I did watch the entire interview.
00:29:53.520 It was kind of cool because I was live texting with Sean Hannity throughout the whole thing
00:29:58.360 since it was pre-taped.
00:30:00.020 By the way, I think it may be Hannity's single best interview with Trump.
00:30:05.160 Very, you know, I think Trump showed a very personal side.
00:30:08.760 He talked about the addiction problem of his brother, who, as you know, died early.
00:30:14.500 Donald Trump idolized his brother, idolized him.
00:30:18.660 They were both great sportsmen.
00:30:20.800 Trump is an extraordinary athlete even to this day.
00:30:24.200 He's been a great athlete his entire life.
00:30:27.300 So I think you saw a personal side of Trump last night, which was, I think, very touching.
00:30:32.760 But you also saw the courageous side of Trump.
00:30:36.140 The president knows that incarceration in Rikers Island, which is a hellhole, is a very real possibility.
00:30:44.060 If they want to make him into Mandela, help yourself.
00:30:47.060 It will backfire with the American people.
00:30:50.400 But these people are so delusional, so insane, so evil.
00:30:57.340 I think they're entirely capable of that.
00:30:59.420 But as you can see, the president, I think, is mentally ready if it takes that turn.
00:31:05.120 It would be the greatest single act of election interference.
00:31:09.340 Oh, the Republican prospective nominee can't go to the convention.
00:31:14.060 What do you call that?
00:31:14.940 I think you call that election interference.
00:31:17.400 It's really outrageous.
00:31:20.120 Well, Roger, you know, what gets me is that we see day after day these attacks launch to President Trump.
00:31:25.580 And they're so blatant out in the open that they're coming after this guy.
00:31:29.760 And they know that it's an illegitimate attack.
00:31:32.340 And yet they're out there in the press every day almost salivating over the cases.
00:31:36.100 You know, they're celebrating them.
00:31:37.800 And so many times throughout history we see this.
00:31:40.220 It's strange to see it take place where you have somebody beating down an individual, coming after them with the full force of government and kind of unaware of the reaction of the public.
00:31:50.740 And the people around them that are looking at this, the way they're putting this man through the ringer.
00:31:55.400 And I think we're seeing as time goes on, Roger, more and more people are joining him and supporting him because they see the persecution and they can relate to it.
00:32:05.440 Because a lot of the people in this country, you know, they don't look at government as their friend.
00:32:09.220 They see government as somebody who sends them a bill every year and threatens them with imprisonment if they dare to not pay the bill.
00:32:17.440 And that's just the reality for people.
00:32:20.180 And to see them, you know, thinking that they are the heroes in this situation.
00:32:23.800 You watch them on the news, they really portray themselves as like Winston Churchill or something.
00:32:28.200 And it's insane.
00:32:29.360 It's completely, you know, these people are out of their minds.
00:32:31.780 And to think that they have been in control of government for so long, I think, puts into perspective how we got to where we are.
00:32:38.220 And it's a very sad situation.
00:32:41.300 That interview with Hannity, by the way, was beautiful last night, Roger.
00:32:44.560 But there was some Biden news I wanted to kind of drop on you this morning as Biden dropped apparently something on the stage in France during a D-Day commencement ceremony or commemoration ceremony today, Roger.
00:32:57.260 He was on stage.
00:32:58.900 He randomly starts squatting while everybody's looking around as if he's having a bathroom related incident.
00:33:05.020 And this clip is going completely viral this morning.
00:33:08.160 Millions of views.
00:33:09.340 Let's see that video of Biden having an accident, I think, on the stage in France.
00:33:14.180 Distinguished guests, please welcome the Honorable Lloyd J.
00:33:26.400 That was very strange.
00:33:30.320 You will remember that when Joe Biden visited the Pope, the Italian press reported that he was late for his meeting with the Pope because he had had a bathroom related accident.
00:33:43.960 I noticed that in the pictures of him arriving at the Vatican, he was wearing a two-piece suit where the jacket and the trousers matched.
00:33:53.340 But I noticed when he emerged from his meeting with the Pope, he was wearing a suit jacket that did not match the suit pants that he was wearing.
00:34:02.600 The Italian press speculated that he had had a diarrhea attack.
00:34:08.840 I have had sources tell me that some of the drugs that they're using to keep him alert have that as a potential side effect.
00:34:19.320 But how much more embarrassing can this get?
00:34:22.700 I mean, that's the president of the United States.
00:34:26.640 And he looks like a poor soul.
00:34:28.920 He looks like a lost soul with no idea where he is.
00:34:33.580 That's why I think when Congressman Ronny Jackson, the former physician for three American presidents, 14 years in the White House medical unit, several years as the head of that unit,
00:34:47.600 the president for George W. Bush, pardon me, the doctor for President George W. Bush for President Barack Obama and for Donald Trump has said it is perfectly reasonable for Joe Biden to take a cognitive test, a mental acuity test before this election.
00:35:06.640 Donald Trump has offered to take one.
00:35:08.340 I can tell you, Donald Trump is literally as sharp as he has ever been, sharp as a tack.
00:35:15.100 You saw that in the Hannity interview, which there's another hour to run tonight, I believe, and I'm anxious to see it.
00:35:24.260 Also, interestingly enough, Ronnie Jackson, I think I read this at Slingshot.News, Ronnie Jackson also thinks that Joe Biden should take a drug test immediately before the debate, something Trump has also done.
00:35:37.320 So all those people who are on X, formerly known as Twitter and other social media platforms saying, oh, Trump is hopped up on Adderall.
00:35:47.020 No, he's willing to take a drug test.
00:35:49.320 I've known him 45 years.
00:35:51.020 The guy barely takes aspirin.
00:35:52.580 He doesn't drink and he is adverse to to all those things.
00:35:57.920 So I think it's a perfectly reasonable position.
00:36:02.820 My guess is, of course, that Joe won't do it because of what it would show.
00:36:08.400 Well, exactly right, Roger.
00:36:09.820 And as you said, there is a pants switch at the Vatican with the Pope.
00:36:13.760 And this time, Biden actually stammered out of the event with Jill Biden kind of leading him along the way after the incident up on the stage.
00:36:24.580 So we have a clip of that.
00:36:26.380 And then right after that, you know, before we come back, I want them to play the clip because you said it there.
00:36:31.300 President Trump is as sharp as he's ever been.
00:36:34.160 I want you to watch Jill Biden leading Joe Biden out of this D-Day event.
00:36:38.180 Remember what we just showed you of President Joe Biden squatting on stage, looking like he's literally crapping his pants.
00:36:45.000 And then I want you to take a look at the Biden campaign people in the news.
00:36:50.680 We have a clip of one of their spokesmen on air saying that President Joe Biden is as sharp as he's ever been.
00:36:57.400 Let's roll those two clips.
00:36:58.360 We have a clip of one of their spokesmen on air saying that President Joe Biden is as sharp as he's ever been.
00:37:28.360 I can tell you that he is sharper than ever.
00:37:35.060 And again, I want to go back and really underscore the fact that his record is very strong.
00:37:39.880 He's achieved more as president than at least the past four to five presidents before him.
00:37:46.860 You cannot get that done if you don't have all of your faculties about.
00:37:50.700 What planet does this woman live on?
00:37:54.460 Joe Biden has systematically destroyed the most robust economy in American history.
00:37:58.780 Our economy had actually bounced back from COVID-19 because the underlying dynamics of low taxation and less regulation were still in place.
00:38:10.740 Joe Biden has the highest rate of inflation of any recent president.
00:38:16.180 Gas prices are surging because he refuses to allow for the exploration of gas and oil under U.S. soil.
00:38:24.260 So we have to go begging to the Venezuelans for what is really the lowest grade and most expensive petroleum to refine.
00:38:36.680 They call it tar.
00:38:38.180 It's garbage.
00:38:38.960 Or we have to go begging, you know, other, the Saudis or others driving gasoline prices.
00:38:48.440 We have an open border, which is causing a crime epidemic, a drug epidemic, and a fiscal crisis for cities, towns, and states across the country.
00:38:59.460 There is an incredible lack of affordable housing.
00:39:04.240 So when they say he's accomplished more than the last four or five presidents, only in the area of destruction as he accomplished great things.
00:39:13.260 You've got to wonder whether that woman, I guess she's paid to say that, but she could not possibly believe that.
00:39:19.460 No one in their right mind could possibly believe that.
00:39:22.940 But the Biden PR machine just works on.
00:39:26.620 Again, they want this election to be about Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
00:39:32.780 January 6th is the worst thing since Pearl Harbor.
00:39:37.140 Trump's taking away your abortion rights.
00:39:41.280 You know, that's their campaign.
00:39:43.960 That's their campaign in the nutshell.
00:39:46.140 Nothing positive, nothing uplifting, nothing inspirational.
00:39:51.200 That's what they'd like to make this election about.
00:39:54.380 I don't think it will work.
00:39:56.620 Presidential elections are always about the future and not the past.
00:40:01.000 But in this particular case, I think we're in an advantageous position because all people need to do is compare the actual Trump record.
00:40:09.300 I don't care if you don't like his mean tweets.
00:40:11.980 Compare his actual record to the current record of Joe Biden.
00:40:18.420 And there's just no question in every area, whether it is global stability in our foreign policy or whether it is or whether it is the economy.
00:40:29.840 All of those things, I think, help drive this election to Donald Trump.
00:40:38.800 Let me do a quick commercial pitch here.
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00:42:02.080 Yesterday brought the sad news that Phil Nelson, who had written two of the very best books exposing the lunacy, literally the functioning lunacy of President Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:42:19.200 His book, LBJ and the Kennedy Assassination, or the JFK Assassination, and LBJ, The Colossus, two great tomes.
00:42:30.680 So let me say, Phil Nelson, a trusted colleague, a good friend, may he rest in peace.
00:42:38.340 All right, Troy, it's time to bring in Alex Stone.
00:42:42.620 So, Troy, I'm going to let you go back to editing the Slingshot.News.
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00:43:06.420 So, Troy, thanks for joining us again here in the Zone.
00:43:11.020 And we will see you tomorrow.
00:43:14.380 We will see you tomorrow, Roger.
00:43:15.600 I never got the chance to do this, so I'm going to do it right now.
00:43:18.240 Ladies and gentlemen, the Rolling Stones.
00:43:22.240 Alex Stone is in the house, ladies and gentlemen.
00:43:25.020 Wow.
00:43:25.600 Thank you for having me on, Roger.
00:43:26.960 I'm glad to be here.
00:43:28.560 That is a great-looking lid that you got there.
00:43:33.000 Thank you, sir.
00:43:33.640 I appreciate it.
00:43:34.820 Do you find that when you go out in public that people like your hat, that people say to you,
00:43:39.180 wow, I like your hat?
00:43:41.540 Yes.
00:43:41.980 Many, many times, this hat and then the hat that you got me for Christmas, they love it all the more, actually.
00:43:48.220 Yeah.
00:43:48.440 I find the exact same thing.
00:43:50.700 Men, you know, up until John Kennedy appeared in the 1960 campaign not wearing a hat, every gentleman wore a hat every day.
00:44:01.620 A gentleman would never, ever leave his house without a hat.
00:44:05.940 By the way, I'm not just talking about business executives, I'm talking about, you know, blue-collar workers.
00:44:11.460 Men wore a hat.
00:44:12.780 They had a hat and a handkerchief, two things they always had.
00:44:15.960 Once John F. Kennedy began campaigning in 1960 without a hat, he was such an ideal, he was such a mythical and media-created kind of icon,
00:44:30.180 the men's hat business went immediately into the toilet, and it's been in decline ever since.
00:44:39.000 Connecticut was once the centerpiece of the hat-making industry in the United States, and, you know, by 1963, most of the larger hat manufacturers were closing.
00:44:53.160 Go to any big city today and go online and try to find a hat shop.
00:44:59.600 There are very, very few of them.
00:45:01.860 The best place to order them, if you're a hat guy, as I am, is online.
00:45:06.680 And, yes, I have promised you a very special hat for TPUSA, so it's in the works.
00:45:14.540 It's in the works.
00:45:16.660 Tell me what you think is going on in America today.
00:45:21.140 Well, Charlie Kirk put on X earlier today, just a little bit ago, actually.
00:45:26.000 He writes,
00:45:55.980 We are winning the voter registration war in Arizona.
00:46:03.820 We need to keep the pressure on.
00:46:05.680 We need to keep registering neighbors and family and then chase the vote come October and then ultimately in November.
00:46:13.160 You know, voter registration is so important, and Republicans recently have been able to do a very good job at that.
00:46:19.400 Charlie Kirk in Turning Point USA, obviously.
00:46:21.460 Another man named Scott Pressler, as well, has been able to go out and register voters.
00:46:28.200 We need to register voters to win in November.
00:46:31.300 That is so, so important.
00:46:32.600 I believe that that is happening.
00:46:34.360 A rise up of Republican voters registering so that President Trump will win the re-election.
00:46:40.660 Yeah, turnout is going to be vitally important here.
00:46:44.480 People don't realize that in 2016, almost 78 percent of evangelical Christians turned out.
00:46:51.140 But in 2020, that number dropped to 63 percent.
00:46:55.160 Now, obviously, not everyone in the country who's an evangelical Christian is a Trump supporter.
00:47:00.520 There are some liberal evangelical Christians for misguided souls.
00:47:05.640 We pray for them.
00:47:06.900 But that's not going to do.
00:47:11.180 So the whole strategy of beat the cheat or too big to rig, I think it's important.
00:47:17.840 It should not be downplayed.
00:47:19.460 It's not the only answer to the ballot security issues in this country, but it is definitely one of the answers.
00:47:27.280 And I think the Republican National Committee is doing a particularly good job in this area.
00:47:33.040 Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA is a powerhouse, and Charlie gets it done.
00:47:39.740 Charlie is a tough taskmaster, and he gets the job done.
00:47:44.460 I think if Trump wins, the actions of TPUSA are going to be one of the very, very key factors in that victory.
00:47:52.980 You and I are both speaking at the Turning Point USA conference coming up, not this weekend, but the following weekend in Detroit.
00:48:00.860 Really looking forward to that.
00:48:03.440 The last Turning Point event we went to was really heartening because I go to, you know, large conservative events a couple times a year, but the average age is much, much older.
00:48:16.660 In the case of this Turning Point event, which was in Phoenix, I believe, the medium age had to be 25.
00:48:25.700 It was really extraordinary.
00:48:26.940 It was the largest turnout of young conservatives, libertarians, Christians, Trump supporters, free thinkers that I've ever seen.
00:48:36.860 It was very, very encouraging.
00:48:39.420 I think Detroit is going to be great.
00:48:43.180 I think so, too.
00:48:44.740 Phoenix was phenomenal.
00:48:45.880 You know, right before going to Phoenix for Turning Point USA in December, I was in Tulare, California for the Reawaken America tour.
00:48:53.440 I loved the Reawaken America tour, and there were about 6,000 people there, had the opportunity to speak, but I didn't see very many young people.
00:49:00.480 There were maybe 10 that I saw and met with, but I flew from Tulare to Turning Point USA, and the amount of young people that was there was absolutely phenomenal.
00:49:11.320 Young people, my generation, Generation Z, are waking up because they're beginning to realize that the Joe Biden administration, like you said when Troy was on, is that it is effectively destroying the most robust economy that we ever had.
00:49:26.260 That's exactly what Joe Biden is doing.
00:49:27.800 I have some of the statistics, if you will, from the Trump administration before COVID-19.
00:49:37.680 America gained 7 million new jobs.
00:49:41.300 Middle-class family income increased nearly $6,000, more than five times the gain during the entire previous administration.
00:49:47.800 The Obama administration unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in half a century, achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job hirings.
00:49:59.560 More Americans reported being employed than ever, nearly 160 million.
00:50:05.440 Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
00:50:08.800 The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest level on record.
00:50:14.740 These are just a few of the things that President Trump had achieved before Joe Biden.
00:50:19.520 Then Joe Biden comes in, and he destroys everything.
00:50:22.760 And because he's destroyed everything, I believe that my generation, Generation Z, is waking up and realizing we need Donald J. Trump back in office.
00:50:31.620 Yeah, I really think opportunity is one of the absolute keys to this election.
00:50:37.100 It is the key to winning African-American votes.
00:50:40.440 It is the key to winning Hispanic votes.
00:50:43.060 I think it is the key to winning younger voters.
00:50:46.900 Will you have economic opportunity?
00:50:49.320 Will you have a job and, therefore, a home and security in your lifetime?
00:50:55.140 Today, affordable housing is really underestimated as an issue.
00:51:01.020 There is no affordable housing for lower- and middle-class families who can't buy.
00:51:06.940 If you don't have the finances to buy and you need to rent, that is almost impossible.
00:51:13.580 If you are trying to buy, those prices are almost impossible.
00:51:19.520 This is a sleeper issue.
00:51:22.100 RFK has talked about it some.
00:51:24.380 But, of course, his answer is massive tax increases, which is not the answer.
00:51:29.920 The answer is massive tax cuts.
00:51:32.560 The answer is a growing economy.
00:51:35.480 As President John F. Kennedy said, a rising tide lifts all boats, meaning an across-the-board tax cut,
00:51:43.260 just as it did under President John F. Kennedy, just as it did under Ronald Reagan, just as it did under Donald Trump, spurs economic growth.
00:51:55.860 When liberals say, oh, no, those tax cuts caused the massive deficits of the Reagan years, no, there was not a single year in which the government took in less money than it paid out,
00:52:09.920 meaning our problem was not a tax problem.
00:52:13.120 Our problem is a spending problem, a spending problem.
00:52:17.420 The House Republicans, particularly Congressman Tom Cole from Oklahoma, think the answer to the upcoming Social Security disaster is to extend the age before you can receive your Social Security benefits
00:52:33.520 and then to means test you to see if you're getting any income beyond Social Security and then cut your benefits if you are.
00:52:43.020 What I call this is political suicide.
00:52:45.540 People paid into the Social Security trust fund in good faith.
00:52:50.980 You have a pact with them.
00:52:52.760 You have an agreement with them to cut their benefits now would be treacherous.
00:52:57.740 Yes, the system is going to go broke, but maybe, just maybe, we could take some of those billions of dollars we're sending to Ukraine
00:53:05.880 and use that money to shore up the Social Security trust fund.
00:53:11.040 There's an idea for you.
00:53:12.460 What would $160 billion do if you dedicated to making sure that seniors got their benefits when they were due their benefits?
00:53:21.380 Lyndon Johnson was the first president who was able to tap into the Social Security task force fund.
00:53:29.140 Prior to that, it was untouchable.
00:53:30.960 You couldn't borrow from it.
00:53:32.600 You couldn't borrow against it.
00:53:34.020 You couldn't dip into it to pay for other things.
00:53:36.940 LBJ changed that.
00:53:38.360 And, frankly, the country's downward economic spiral and fundamental problems begin with that.
00:53:47.280 Two acts that I think in the long term hurt the economy.
00:53:51.980 Nixon's disastrous decision to close the gold window, take America off the gold standard,
00:53:57.680 probably among his single greatest mistakes.
00:54:01.400 In the two books I've written and in many articles I've written on Richard Nixon, I say this.
00:54:06.840 So for those who, when I praise Nixon for being a peacemaker, say, yeah, but he took us off the gold standard stone.
00:54:15.180 Yes, I criticize him in all of my books for that.
00:54:18.840 But that, plus the decision by Johnson to be able to access the Social Security Trust Fund,
00:54:26.220 two of the greatest fiscal mistakes in the country's history, leading us very much to where we are today.
00:54:36.020 I am, I've got to ask you, how's your show doing over at the Rumble?
00:54:41.820 My show is doing good.
00:54:43.380 I took a couple months off of it, you know, due to personal reasons, but I started it back up again.
00:54:49.980 It's going strong.
00:54:50.960 Just interviewed Cameron Moore, just interviewed Doug Billings.
00:54:54.000 So I'm lining up a lot of good guests.
00:54:56.360 I'm hoping to interview quite a few people at Turning Point USA.
00:54:59.560 Looking forward to it, but it's growing.
00:55:01.680 Find me at the Alex Stone show on Rumble.
00:55:04.680 And then also on X, as you see in the bottom right corner, is Stone J Alex on X.
00:55:13.840 All right.
00:55:14.980 We're going to let Alex Stone go back to going out to preach God's word and save the country.
00:55:21.460 Have a wonderful and blessed day.
00:55:23.380 And thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:55:27.160 Thank you, Roger.
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00:58:21.120 We are out of time.
00:58:22.780 I'm happy to say tomorrow on the Stone Zone, Will Scharf, who is one of the president's attorneys working on his appeal and the legal issues in the wake of his unjust conviction, will be joining us in the Stone Zone.
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00:58:42.740 So, until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
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