The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Attack on Trump! With Dinesh D'Souza and Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.140 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.160 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:16.780 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:20.780 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.200 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.180 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:40.980 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:46.100 Joining me now, my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News, Troy Smith.

00:00:54.060 With you, Roger.

00:00:54.960 We have a great guest today, and I know he's tight on time, so I want to get right to him.

00:01:01.940 Dinesh D'Souza is, of course, a bestselling author and award-making filmmaker.

00:01:06.980 He's also one of the most influential people in the American conservative movement.

00:01:11.960 I'm also proud to say that he's my friend.

00:01:14.620 And when I was targeted for political reasons by the Mueller investigation, he was a strong and vocal supporter of mine.

00:01:22.820 I'm very proud of our friendship.

00:01:25.580 Everybody, I think, is familiar with his incredible filmmaking.

00:01:30.100 His filmmaking, 2,000 mules on the theft of the last election, was historic in its nature.

00:01:38.440 And now he's back with a new movie that we're here to talk about.

00:01:43.180 That is Vindicating Trump.

00:01:45.440 Trump, a man I've known for 45 years.

00:01:49.000 Dinesh D'Souza, welcome into the Stone Zone.

00:01:51.700 Thank you, Roger.

00:01:53.820 Great to be with you.

00:01:55.520 This is a film that is very timely and coming at a very urgent time for the country.

00:02:03.960 It opens on the 27th of September in theaters nationwide.

00:02:09.920 This is very cool because in the aftermath of COVID, we were not able to do wide theatrical releases the way I'm accustomed to doing.

00:02:17.900 But it looks like we'll be back in the saddle with this one.

00:02:21.120 And I want people to, if they can, make plans to see it the weekend of September 27th in the theater.

00:02:28.600 I think you're absolutely right about it coming at a crucial time.

00:02:33.040 The Democrats continue, again, to just recycle lies about one of our greatest presidents.

00:02:41.260 I've known Donald Trump for 45 years.

00:02:44.500 And I know him to be a strong, thoughtful, very kind, funny, balanced, brave, courageous individual with an enormous stamina.

00:02:56.980 And much like Ronald Reagan, a big picture outlook on some of the most important issues of the day.

00:03:04.900 The media continues to recycle lies about him.

00:03:09.440 Incredibly, in most cases, easily disproved lies.

00:03:13.100 But that doesn't stop them from recycling them.

00:03:17.280 And our country is either going to survive or it's not.

00:03:21.720 We're going to know in less than two months.

00:03:24.660 So tell us more about this film and what we're going to learn from it.

00:03:30.500 Well, the film, you know, as films often try to do, it tries to pull back and look at what is it about Trump that generates this kind of a reaction.

00:03:42.200 Because I think, Roger, you and I go far enough back that we know that the media, the left, the Democrats, they were contemptuous of Reagan.

00:03:49.860 He's a washed up movie actor.

00:03:51.720 Oh, he doesn't, you know, he takes naps for like six hours in the middle of the day.

00:03:58.060 They were dismissive of Bush.

00:03:59.580 He's a buffoon.

00:04:00.800 He's, you know, he walks in a strange way.

00:04:05.680 He's pretending to be a Texas cowboy.

00:04:07.900 He doesn't understand the world.

00:04:09.220 But the temperature of the accusations against Trump and the fact that they go beyond character assassination to attempt, I would call it political assassination, legal assassination, and now even actual assassination.

00:04:25.700 I mean, that's taking things a lot further.

00:04:28.120 And so I think if we, if I look across the sweep of history, Trump, the only other president as divisive as Trump is Lincoln.

00:04:37.840 And even in the case of Lincoln, the divisiveness, the heat, the, was over slavery, was over the issue.

00:04:46.120 Whereas with Trump, it's over the man.

00:04:48.880 And so this is a movie that sort of takes that bull by the horns and asks, what is it about Trump that makes him so terrifying, so intimidating to the other side that they would go to such lengths that they didn't dream of going to, even with Bush, even with Reagan?

00:05:06.720 You know, I think it is because, quite actually, why I first began to think of Donald Trump as a potential presidential candidate as early as 1988, his complete uncontrollability.

00:05:23.200 I mean, I looked, I loved Reagan, but he was still part of the established political system, famously said he'd rather have, you know, half a loaf than none of a loaf.

00:05:33.660 I agree with that, too.

00:05:35.320 But the Bushes, of course, were completely entrenched in the political elite system.

00:05:41.560 The thing about Trump is that he's completely his own man.

00:05:46.040 He is not, he can't be bullied.

00:05:49.000 He can't be bought.

00:05:50.300 He can't be threatened.

00:05:51.520 And now he's even more dangerous to them because in a second term, he has a much better understanding of how Washington works, how the ruling elite of the country do what they do, what their real aims are, how far they're prepared to bend and break the law and the Constitution to achieve what they want.

00:06:15.760 Now, he's a, he's a, he's a, an existential threat to the, to the ruling elite that run this country or are in the process of destroying him.

00:06:28.760 When you, when you, when you've met him, you've spent a lot of time with him, as have I, he's not even remotely like this caricature of him that they, that they try to paint.

00:06:40.280 It is really, it is really, when you look at Trump derangement syndrome and all of its manifestations, it's hard to explain, but I think that can be the only explanation.

00:06:54.460 This idea that he would, that he would, that he would get ready for it, use the Justice Department to prosecute his political enemies.

00:07:05.600 These people have no self-awareness, that he would, that he would arrest reporters.

00:07:11.220 That's one of my favorites.

00:07:12.440 Chris Matthews said he'd put reporters up against the wall and have them shot.

00:07:17.280 No, he wouldn't.

00:07:18.260 That's crazy.

00:07:19.880 That's crazy.

00:07:20.820 I think your movie is coming at exactly the right time.

00:07:25.040 I hope that you, and this cannot be easy.

00:07:27.600 I'm not a filmmaker, but I hope you can capture the real, the real Trump.

00:07:34.280 And I also, you think it's very wise.

00:07:37.400 I like the idea that Laura Trump, for example, I'm told is a major presence in your film.

00:07:44.300 People who really know him can tell you a lot about him that he won't tell you about himself because, you know, that's not the way he operates.

00:07:53.920 Well, the centerpiece of the film is, in fact, a one-on-one with Trump.

00:07:57.780 And, in fact, as I got ready for this, you know, my wife Debbie is like, this is going to be very difficult, Dinesh,

00:08:02.940 because Trump is a guy who, just as you said, Roger, is not easy to control.

00:08:08.500 So very often if you watch interviews with Trump, somebody asks a question, and Trump just goes on for 15 minutes.

00:08:14.220 I remember when Dr. Phil was trying to draw Trump into sort of psychological territory, which is, of course, familiar territory for him.

00:08:21.400 Trump just would have none of it.

00:08:22.640 He just kept, you know, forging ahead with what Trump wanted to say.

00:08:26.260 And in my case, I wanted very much Trump to specifically address some issues that are key in the movie.

00:08:32.780 And so I set it up where I'm sort of sitting with him almost, I wouldn't say six inches apart, but really face-to-face,

00:08:38.480 so that we could have an engaged conversation that would talk about some very substantive issues.

00:08:44.420 And you put your finger on, in a way, the key issue that the movie, that drives the movie, and that's this.

00:08:50.500 Well, let me back up slightly.

00:08:51.700 Abraham Lincoln, and you'll know this, Roger, in his 20s, gave a famous speech called the Lyceum Speech.

00:08:58.840 And in that speech, Lincoln says that if America is ever destroyed, it will not come from abroad.

00:09:04.520 It will come from within.

00:09:06.020 But where will it come from?

00:09:07.680 And Lincoln says it will come from a tyrannical figure who will introduce a spirit of lawlessness in the land

00:09:17.640 and subvert our constitutional republic.

00:09:20.500 Now, of course, when the left and the Democrats hear this, they go, oh, yeah, well, there we go.

00:09:24.240 That's Trump.

00:09:25.440 But as you mentioned, it wasn't anything that Trump did.

00:09:29.820 What did he do that was dictatorial in his first term?

00:09:34.120 But yet, there is something about Trump that is larger than life, right?

00:09:39.180 I mean, he was a massive cultural celebrity long before he entered politics.

00:09:43.500 Even in politics, he's such a gigantic figure that the election in 2024 is all about him.

00:09:50.780 I honestly believe that he is the issue, not even Biden or Harris.

00:09:55.400 So the point I want to make is that the left recognizes this kind of larger than life dimension of Trump.

00:10:02.980 And in my conversation with Trump, one of the questions I said to him was, I said, you know what?

00:10:07.420 You didn't do an insurrection, Mr. Trump.

00:10:09.400 But guess what?

00:10:10.520 You could have.

00:10:11.880 Had you called for an insurrection on January 6th, there would have been a real one.

00:10:16.340 And if you call for one now, there would be one now.

00:10:19.920 And I'll leave it for you to watch in the movie how Trump reacts to this.

00:10:25.760 But the point I want to make is that the left recognizes the power of Trump.

00:10:31.140 The reason they call him a dictator is they recognize this kind of power in Trump that other Republicans don't have.

00:10:38.280 That other Republicans don't threaten them.

00:10:40.760 If you put one indictment, let alone 91 criminal charges against any other Republican, that Republican would be right now running from the field, quitting the race, going under the table.

00:10:52.500 So in that sense, Trump stands all by himself.

00:10:56.640 Troy, do you have a question for Dinesh?

00:10:59.560 Absolutely, Mr. D'Souza.

00:11:00.800 You've done so much work, extensive work in tracing the fascist roots of the Democrat Party and this president and Tifa and a lot of the tactics that they use.

00:11:09.820 So I want to know what it's like for you to see this election cycle, the leftist mainstream media continually put out the talking point that Trump is Hitler while they're kind of more using the tactics of authoritarianism more and more as we go into this election where we have a nominee for their party that didn't receive a single primary vote.

00:11:29.100 I mean, what do you have to say about that?

00:11:30.240 Yeah, coming back to what I was saying about Lincoln a moment ago, Lincoln thought of the dictator that would subvert America in terms of a Caesar, an Alexander, a Napoleon.

00:11:43.940 But what we have seen with the Democrats is something a little bit more cunning.

00:11:48.180 And that is the guy who is in front, a Biden, a Harris, they don't actually drive the regime.

00:11:55.480 It's not like the old mafia where old Don Corleone is the leader of the family.

00:12:01.260 He's the one telling everybody else what to do.

00:12:03.520 No, in this case, I think the regime is controlling Biden.

00:12:07.500 The regime is controlling Harris.

00:12:09.400 So what we're dealing with here is a somewhat more invisible junta that is comprised of not one, not two, but a bunch of people that have taken over key institutions and can work in coordination against a figure like Trump who threatens their power.

00:12:26.360 So this is laid out in the movie very systematically and also in a very entertaining way.

00:12:33.280 I mean, remember that movies, to be powerful, have to be, they have to be suspenseful, they have to be inspirational, but they also have to be entertaining.

00:12:42.040 I'm happy to say I think this is my most entertaining movie ever.

00:12:45.340 So I want to urge people to watch it in the theater, not to mention that the fate of a film very often depends on the opening weekend, which is to say the weekend of September 27th.

00:12:54.920 So if you make plans, take your friends.

00:12:56.940 And the website is, if I may give it, vindicatingTrump, vindicatingTrump.com.

00:13:02.520 And next week, we'll have all our ticket sites available.

00:13:06.320 It'll connect you to Fandango and so on.

00:13:08.700 So it'll be very easy to buy tickets.

00:13:10.520 Right now, you can go on the website and watch the trailer.

00:13:14.360 There you see it, folks, that we've just put up the post.

00:13:18.680 We'll put it up again later in the show to remind you.

00:13:21.900 We'll also put it up the day before to remind you one more time.

00:13:24.980 I think this comes at exactly the right time.

00:13:29.400 The Democrats are committed to this, the ultimate smear of Donald Trump.

00:13:36.140 Personally, I think it is that he will not give in to their drive for World War III.

00:13:45.260 I mean, these people want war.

00:13:47.520 War is extremely profitable for some people.

00:13:51.440 Even in the debate where they try to say, well, don't you want Ukraine to win?

00:13:56.620 He said, no, I want the killing to stop.

00:13:58.960 I want the killing to stop.

00:14:00.600 So he does not give in to their global aspirations.

00:14:05.160 I'm not saying that they don't want to cancel the U.S. Constitution.

00:14:08.380 Oh, they do.

00:14:09.440 But it's in the realm of international affairs where he has, let's face it, a record as a peacemaker.

00:14:18.480 I mean, this is a guy whose unpredictability is what kept there from being a conflict in the Russia-Ukraine situation.

00:14:29.560 His unpredictability is what kept China from moving on Taiwan.

00:14:35.000 And of course, his policies, which had completely bankrupted Iran, his sanctions being so tough, not even the Chinese would buy oil from them,

00:14:45.620 meant that they had no money to finance their nuclear weapons development program or to subsidize terrorism through Hamas and Hezbollah and these attacks on Israel.

00:15:00.240 This is the part that drives them the craziest, that he doesn't share and cannot be bent to the worldview that they shared with George W. Bush,

00:15:11.180 that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and the Bush presidencies all share.

00:15:17.700 This is an important film at a vital time.

00:15:20.760 Dinesh, I want to thank you for joining us.

00:15:22.700 We will remind folks before opening day, I want to wish you the greatest of luck with this.

00:15:28.860 Not just luck, but Godspeed, because what you're doing is so very important.

00:15:34.260 Thank you so much.

00:15:35.100 All right, folks, Dinesh D'Souza, one of the most influential filmmakers in the country.

00:15:43.840 Well, Roger, we have a strange clip I want to get your opinion on from yesterday.

00:15:49.460 And, you know, we have to remember, you were one of the main people talking about this struggle within the Democrat Party.

00:15:55.140 And you predicted years ago that Joe Biden would not be the Democrat nominee in 2024.

00:16:00.960 Your prediction actually came true.

00:16:03.900 And one of the things that you've talked about on this show and other places is that Biden is very angry about the fact that he was replaced.

00:16:10.740 And particularly Hunter Biden and Jill Biden and those around him, they're very eager, it seems,

00:16:15.300 to jam the knife in the back of the Democrat Party that has seemed to have kind of left them behind in total.

00:16:22.060 So we saw President Biden travel yesterday to Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

00:16:26.540 And while he was in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, he was handed a Trump hat, a Trump 2024 hat by somebody in the audience.

00:16:34.180 And he actually put the hat on and smiled for everybody at this event.

00:16:38.940 Now, this is just hours after the presidential debate occurred, Roger.

00:16:42.820 So we have a clip, a video of him putting on that, the full exchange with the voter.

00:16:47.440 And I want to get your thoughts.

00:16:48.720 I think there's probably a little bit of senility here, coupled with maybe some anger towards the Kamala Harris people in the Democrat Party.

00:16:56.680 I want to roll that clip and get your thoughts on the other side, Roger.

00:16:59.100 I'm proud of you in my presidential hat.

00:17:01.980 Presidential seal on it?

00:17:04.000 You're an autographer?

00:17:05.560 Oh, sure.

00:17:06.860 Huh?

00:17:07.820 Yeah.

00:17:08.360 You remember your name?

00:17:09.920 I don't remember my name.

00:17:11.160 I'm slow.

00:17:11.700 You're an old part.

00:17:13.640 You're an old part.

00:17:15.340 Yeah, I know, man.

00:17:16.300 I'm an old guy.

00:17:17.240 And you're an old part, right?

00:17:18.820 I know you wouldn't know about that.

00:17:20.480 What?

00:17:21.360 I'm being old.

00:17:22.260 Oh, I know.

00:17:23.660 All right.

00:17:24.440 I'm a young timer.

00:17:27.020 Huh?

00:17:29.000 You know, he reminds me of the guys I grew up with.

00:17:31.080 There's always one of the neighborhoods.

00:17:33.520 Well, I'm the only one.

00:17:38.260 There you go, man.

00:17:39.280 You know, I need that hat.

00:17:43.160 You want my autograph?

00:17:44.460 Hell no.

00:17:45.820 You know my name.

00:17:48.060 Come on.

00:17:50.320 I ain't going that far.

00:17:51.480 Yeah.

00:17:52.740 Instead, you're doing a selfie.

00:17:55.420 There you go.

00:17:56.340 There you go.

00:17:57.340 Yeah.

00:17:58.860 Yeah.

00:18:00.300 Yeah.

00:18:00.820 Yeah.

00:18:02.060 Hey.

00:18:03.260 I'm proud of you now.

00:18:05.480 You're going to start.

00:18:07.580 Huh?

00:18:08.000 Just remember, no eating dogs and cats.

00:18:11.260 Uh-huh.

00:18:12.480 Hey, they're good.

00:18:14.160 Thank you.

00:18:15.100 They're good.

00:18:15.800 Kentucky Fried.

00:18:16.620 Pick them.

00:18:16.940 I hope you like the pizza.

00:18:19.160 Huh?

00:18:19.840 You guys pick the pizza again.

00:18:21.240 I don't know where the door is.

00:18:22.200 You know, I would just say that was, you know, senile dementia.

00:18:30.500 However, he also posed with a large group of kids wearing Trump T-shirts and Trump paraphernalia.

00:18:38.340 But now you go to that section in the debate where Trump says, folks, let me tell you a secret.

00:18:45.260 I'm paraphrasing.

00:18:46.760 Joe Biden hates her.

00:18:48.180 He can't stand her.

00:18:49.900 Which, by the way, you notice she never refuted.

00:18:52.940 Trump may be on to something there.

00:18:54.780 In other words, this may be willful.

00:18:56.420 This may not just be doddering.

00:18:58.400 There's no question, my sources tell me, that Joe Biden's very bitter about being forced out of the race.

00:19:06.060 He did not want to throw in the towel.

00:19:09.180 He thought he could beat Trump.

00:19:10.680 He was looking forward to the contest.

00:19:12.860 And he was bludgeoned out of the race.

00:19:14.760 He was squeezed out of the race by Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi particularly and Hakeem Jeffries.

00:19:24.200 So he may not he may be acting out here, you know, instead of making a formal statement criticizing Kamala Harris, he puts on a Trump hat from in terms of the news cycle was not good for the Kamala Harris campaign.

00:19:40.500 They're desperately trying to spin how they won the debate at a perfect time.

00:19:47.540 And they also would like Joe Biden to just disappear, just get him off the stage.

00:19:54.960 But that, of course, has not been terribly successful, thanks to Joe's antics in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

00:20:04.100 I'm going to keep an eye on this because I think that may not just be buffoonery.

00:20:09.600 I think that may be Joe Biden sending a political signal that you folks thought you were just going to dump me and I was going to go away quietly.

00:20:20.060 Thanks for pulling up the clip.

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00:24:41.140 All right, we have an important human interest story here that we want to talk about.

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00:24:56.620 If you followed bodybuilding in the United States in any capacity over the last several years, well, then you would be familiar with a man named Amin Alai.

00:25:06.960 But right now, Amin Alai is a man charged by the federal government with crimes he did not commit.

00:25:15.000 And he's facing what could be life in prison.

00:25:19.780 And we're going to try to get to the bottom of why this is happening.

00:25:25.380 Amin Alai joins us now in the Stone Zone.

00:25:31.120 Hi, Roger.

00:25:32.060 Thank you for having me on the show.

00:25:33.000 Thank you very much for joining us.

00:25:37.120 Amin, you have been one of the most influential and prominent members of the bodybuilding community for a number of years.

00:25:43.540 The bodybuilding and nutritional techniques that you developed are among the most commonly used among prominent bodybuilders in the country.

00:25:53.900 Your followers call you Guru Amin.

00:25:59.140 You, in turn, have been the first guy who ever told me about Andrew and Tristan Tate and their philosophy of self-reliance, discipline, hard work, fitness, sobriety, spirituality, and so on.

00:26:16.320 And now, incredibly, the government is charging you, as I understand it, in the death of a man who took a supplement called Ibogaine, which is still legal in the United States, a natural supplement, which I'm told you never possessed, you never sold him, you never administered to him.

00:26:43.360 You want to tell us what's going on here?

00:26:46.960 That's correct.

00:26:47.660 I'm being falsely accused of something I didn't do.

00:26:50.480 I think the government has a reason to want to try to make this substance illegal.

00:26:55.820 It's been used to successfully help a lot of people with depression and drug addiction.

00:27:01.160 Basically, what happened was this man, he came to my house.

00:27:05.340 I was living with another person.

00:27:06.700 That person administered to this guy this Ibogaine stuff.

00:27:09.820 He died while the person who administered it went to the grocery store.

00:27:13.600 I was left there to call 911 and to help revive the man.

00:27:16.920 I did the best I could.

00:27:19.060 Unfortunately, he didn't survive.

00:27:22.240 Autopsy showed he died of natural causes.

00:27:24.700 Months later, the toxicology report comes back.

00:27:28.340 They find this stuff called Ibogaine.

00:27:30.140 And they say that that's what caused his death.

00:27:32.240 Now, you have known tragedy in your own life.

00:27:40.660 You have two sons.

00:27:42.080 You have a son, Ozzy, who's now nine.

00:27:44.580 An amazing kid.

00:27:45.820 A self-taught chef who has his own YouTube channel.

00:27:50.600 But your other son, Caden, died tragically of cancer not that long ago.

00:27:57.920 Less than a year ago.

00:27:59.520 Time flies, so I'm uncertain.

00:28:03.440 It seems amazing to me that three years after the fact, and with no complainant, because the

00:28:11.600 man who dies family has raised no complaints, in fact, they don't think you're guilty of

00:28:17.800 this crime, they have put you in the crosshairs seeking to prosecute you for a crime, which,

00:28:28.380 first of all, may not even be illegal.

00:28:29.760 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that your initial attorneys, who were public prosecutors,

00:28:37.220 since you essentially have become indigent, they destroyed your business, you lost everything,

00:28:44.780 they repoed your car, they're seeking even today to evict you, you're struggling to feed

00:28:54.960 your son.

00:28:55.580 And there's another man here who did sell this substance and did administer it, but

00:29:02.460 he seems to have completely disappeared.

00:29:05.600 Troy, you have some observations here because you broke this story.

00:29:10.080 Well, I just want to say, you know, I mean, you know, working with Amin on this story and

00:29:13.460 kind of diving into the evidence, it's pretty, it's pretty shocking.

00:29:16.800 And I spoke extensively with Amin and his son producing this article and kind of reviewed

00:29:21.980 the evidence.

00:29:22.340 We have a screenshot of the Red Pill Reset website where the individual that Mr. Eli here

00:29:28.540 was living with, Jim Tamagini, still offers the Ibogaine substance.

00:29:33.560 Now, I took this screenshot minutes before we actually started this show.

00:29:37.860 So as of right now, you're talking about a death that happened three years ago.

00:29:41.420 As of right now, Jim Tamagini is allegedly still selling Ibogaine, the very substance that

00:29:48.100 Amin Ali is being charged with administering, that he never administered, that he never possessed.

00:29:53.700 And, you know, it's just, you're exactly right.

00:29:56.460 And I mean, I'd like you to speak to that just for a second, because it's not like Jim was

00:30:00.880 mentioned in the indictment and they just didn't come after him.

00:30:04.240 He's not been mentioned at all here.

00:30:06.220 And he was the one that set up this entire situation, wasn't he?

00:30:09.700 Absolutely.

00:30:10.320 As a matter of fact, listening to the recorded conversations and everything, the agents that

00:30:16.660 actually started talking to the family, first, the family brought up his name and they said,

00:30:22.340 well, we need to tell you about Jim.

00:30:24.040 And they diverted them.

00:30:25.740 They said, we're not concerned with him.

00:30:27.580 We know everything about him.

00:30:28.840 We want to talk to you about Amin.

00:30:30.280 You can make of that what you want, but it seems pretty targeted.

00:30:35.700 I was the only person that had an internet following.

00:30:37.880 I'm the only person that was anti-vax.

00:30:39.640 I'm the only person that talks about health, nutrition, against the spraying of the crops,

00:30:44.580 against the GMOs, a lot of the things that RFK talks about.

00:30:47.560 I was doing this in 2020, 2021.

00:30:51.260 Okay.

00:30:51.560 My Instagram account was hacked.

00:30:53.660 You can call it that, taken down, whatever you want to call it.

00:30:56.440 Okay.

00:30:57.500 My videos were shadow banned.

00:30:59.140 Many of them, I was told to take down.

00:31:01.720 They took them down, actually.

00:31:03.940 And then all of a sudden, an opportunity arises where a federally Schedule 1 drug, okay,

00:31:09.920 much like marijuana, which everybody knows statewide is pretty much illegal now, they want to pick

00:31:15.780 Colorado who legalized this substance, and they want to say that this substance killed

00:31:21.060 someone.

00:31:21.460 It's almost as ludicrous as saying that someone overdosed on marijuana.

00:31:25.120 And I want to make that very clear, because all of the new literature shows that it's

00:31:29.900 impossible to die from this.

00:31:31.960 So the actual charge, it stems from old literature from a lab that actually is in gross negligence.

00:31:41.140 So does the state here, have they ever produced an autopsy or a toxicology report, which proves

00:31:50.960 what I understand doctors actually say is not possible, that this was the cause of death

00:31:56.480 in this case?

00:31:57.420 You're going to love this.

00:31:59.260 They have an autopsy.

00:32:01.180 Initial autopsy thought that it was possibly a pulmonary embolism death due to natural causes,

00:32:06.940 okay?

00:32:07.580 He had a surgery less than 36 hours before he showed up at the house.

00:32:12.160 Actually, about 24 hours before he showed up at the house.

00:32:14.800 He had a surgery on an infection in his triceps that went septic in his whole body.

00:32:19.720 And according to now the research that we've come up with, the doctors and everyone saying

00:32:24.640 the doctors had taken off the rest of the day, five doctors to work on this man to save

00:32:29.300 his life.

00:32:30.460 I don't know what he was thinking that he would even bother leaving his home.

00:32:35.840 But for some reason, he wanted to have this thing done to him.

00:32:39.280 Apparently, he was a severe alcoholic and he was trying to rid his mind of the alcohol

00:32:44.580 addiction, which is why he sought after the red pill reset.

00:32:48.020 The red pill reset has always been owned by Jim.

00:32:51.080 I've never had anything to do with that business ever.

00:32:54.480 Jim was my roommate.

00:32:55.720 He lived at the home and it was his business.

00:32:58.680 I don't have any right to tell him what he can and cannot do as he paid rent there.

00:33:02.740 So plain and simple, they got the wrong person.

00:33:06.420 And now the person that they're actually looking for come to find out there actually is no charge.

00:33:11.920 You can't die from this.

00:33:13.400 So why are the government saying something that's basically based on an eighth edition volume

00:33:17.800 that we're now on the 12th edition and everything shows that, yes, he may have had 1,200 nanograms

00:33:24.460 in a system, but 1,200 nanograms doesn't kill you.

00:33:27.440 And that's where the government's failed to do their due diligence to actually find recent

00:33:33.920 information on this substance, which shows it's not toxic.

00:33:37.340 I guess the thing that really disturbs me the most is that you obviously don't have the

00:33:44.900 money for a high-priced criminal defense lawyer.

00:33:47.780 So you went to two public defenders.

00:33:50.660 Those two public defenders spent 16 months investigating your case, fighting with the state over discovery.

00:33:58.600 The state didn't seem to be too anxious to turn over things, which they have a legal obligation

00:34:04.340 to do.

00:34:05.340 But they assured you repeatedly that there was more than reasonable doubt in several parts

00:34:12.680 of the state's allegations against you and that they believe that a non-guilty defense

00:34:18.680 could be successful.

00:34:20.880 And then just weeks before your scheduled trial in August, they came to you and said,

00:34:28.300 you have to plead guilty.

00:34:30.820 You have to take a minimum of 15 to life.

00:34:34.880 You can't change lawyers.

00:34:37.360 You can't change your plea.

00:34:39.460 This is your only option.

00:34:41.940 This makes very little sense to me.

00:34:44.500 And then, of course, because of your circumstance, your mother, who I've met, a great lady, she

00:34:52.520 went out and borrowed $10,000 to hire a local Colorado attorney who was able to go to the

00:34:58.840 judge and get a continuance in your case, and you were able to fire the public defenders

00:35:04.320 who clearly no longer had any interest in defending you.

00:35:08.960 I find this very strange.

00:35:11.600 So here's the real question is, why is this happening?

00:35:16.560 Why are they taking a man who is not guilty of the crime under a faulty medical premise

00:35:23.960 anyway, a man who has a seven-year-old son that he has to support, pardon me, a nine-year-old

00:35:31.100 son now that he has to support?

00:35:33.380 I think the answer is it has to do with politics.

00:35:37.800 It has to do with the legalization of Ibogaine.

00:35:42.100 You see, Ibogaine competes with Xanax.

00:35:45.400 It competes with Clonopid.

00:35:48.200 It competes with Valium.

00:35:54.440 And Big Pharma has a heavy interest in Ibogaine, which I've never tried, but I've read about,

00:36:01.800 not being legal and not being available.

00:36:05.380 I think, I mean, that you're a victim of Big Pharma.

00:36:10.840 I think the idea here is to make you the poster boy for making this currently decriminalized

00:36:18.380 substance, which is decriminalized in Colorado in 2022.

00:36:23.100 They want to make it illegal.

00:36:25.160 That's what I think this is about.

00:36:26.440 Troy, you're thinking.

00:36:30.200 I think you're right.

00:36:31.280 Go ahead, Aminia.

00:36:32.460 I think you're right because it doesn't make any logical sense any other way as to say,

00:36:38.180 who has the motive behind this?

00:36:40.160 Who stands to gain from my incarceration?

00:36:43.900 What benefit does the state or the government get from saying that a substance which can't

00:36:49.560 kill you can kill you and then blame it on a person?

00:36:52.060 There's also been a pattern here of harassment.

00:36:58.460 You were charged with violating the terms of your probation and incarcerated.

00:37:05.620 What was that all about?

00:37:08.040 Well, now I'm on my third probation officer without having a single violation.

00:37:12.640 Basically, what happened was I went on a vacation to see my family while I was on bond.

00:37:16.660 And during that trip, my mother's fiance, who is an ex-CIA gun instructor, asked me if I

00:37:22.680 wouldn't mind accompanying him to the range.

00:37:24.700 I go to the range and take pictures of me watching him shoot a gun, never held a gun or

00:37:29.480 anything, and put that on Instagram.

00:37:31.940 I get back home and the probation officers say that I violated my probation by possessing

00:37:37.980 a gun.

00:37:38.400 But wait, it gets better.

00:37:39.960 I get incarcerated for seven days.

00:37:41.860 They lock me up in front of my son, refusing to even let me get my shoes on, by the way.

00:37:46.060 And by the time I get to court, seven days later, they asked me to check the box that

00:37:53.300 says you're not allowed to possess a firearm.

00:37:55.960 So not only did I never possess a firearm, but even if I had possessed a firearm, it wasn't

00:38:02.100 a term of my condition.

00:38:03.440 It wasn't a condition of my probation.

00:38:05.880 That probation officer is no longer on the case.

00:38:08.560 A second one came on the case.

00:38:10.320 He harassed me about rescheduling an appointment with the counselor, which I have to have counseling

00:38:15.720 because of what I'm going through.

00:38:18.000 The government has insisted that I do counseling.

00:38:20.580 So I do counseling, and this counselor, I had to reschedule it because I had an eye appointment

00:38:25.100 with an eye doctor that I can only get once a month.

00:38:27.740 The counselor had no issues with the rescheduling, yet the probation officer had an issue with

00:38:33.760 it, which makes no sense.

00:38:35.120 He asked me to send him screenshots of my messages between me and my doctor.

00:38:42.560 That's a HIPAA violation.

00:38:44.220 They went to that extreme to try and violate me by saying that I didn't have the right to

00:38:50.900 reschedule an appointment, which the counselor had no issue with.

00:38:54.160 That guy is no longer on the case either.

00:38:56.340 He's also gone.

00:38:57.500 Now I'm on the third guy.

00:38:58.760 He seems to be pretty reasonable.

00:39:00.400 He hasn't harassed me as of yet.

00:39:02.380 It would make big news when Andrew and Tristan Tate sent a $10,000 contribution to the Give

00:39:11.840 Send Go site that you set up to be able to hire lawyers.

00:39:17.260 That is also, I'm happy to say, the stories written by Troy and Slingshot.news came to the

00:39:23.620 attention to some other donors, which have allowed you to now at least retain competent legal counsel.

00:39:30.680 You've got a good lawyer now, but that lawyer has identified a number of medical experts who

00:39:37.480 are prepared to testify that what the government claimed is true cannot medically be true.

00:39:43.420 But those medical experts, they get paid for their testimony, not to change their testimony,

00:39:50.440 but for their time.

00:39:51.540 And you're having trouble keeping a roof over your head, keeping food in your mouth.

00:39:58.220 I know they keep turning off your cell phone for nonpayment.

00:40:01.340 I know they repossessed your car.

00:40:03.600 I know you're fighting, being evicted from the small apartment where you live with your son.

00:40:10.560 So we're going to try to help you here.

00:40:12.380 Folks, if you want to help this man fight for his freedom, he has a Give Send Go account.

00:40:19.640 There you see it.

00:40:20.760 You can go to givesendgo.com.

00:40:23.640 Look for that.

00:40:24.980 Save this innocent man from the Matrix.

00:40:28.560 You know, I just sent your story to Andrew and Tristan Tate, and I was delighted when they

00:40:34.960 sent you $10,000.

00:40:36.080 They, of course, now are being harassed by the Matrix themselves, but I think it is a testimony

00:40:44.020 to the fact that they recognize the injustice in your case.

00:40:50.120 So what comes next?

00:40:51.680 When is trial?

00:40:53.720 What are the next steps for you and your new lawyer?

00:40:58.040 Trial is November 12th.

00:41:00.080 What we're hoping is to be able to pay for these experts, which will say that not only

00:41:06.840 it's impossible for it to kill him, but the actual substance that they found, in fact, couldn't

00:41:12.700 be ibogaine because there was no metabolite attached to it, which in layman's sense means

00:41:17.540 it either didn't go through his liver or they sprinkled it in the blood because it's not possible

00:41:23.060 to show up any other way, being what they said it was.

00:41:25.960 So if I can retain these experts, hopefully motions deadline is October 1st, we'll file

00:41:32.900 the motions to dismiss this case.

00:41:35.100 And with your help, I can do that.

00:41:37.580 This case should be dismissed.

00:41:41.600 It's kind of hard to process until you've been in the crosshairs of the all-powerful federal

00:41:47.960 government with unlimited resources and money who wish to destroy you.

00:41:52.020 You can't really understand what Amin and his family are going through.

00:41:59.600 I'm optimistic here that, and I know that you're a good Christian.

00:42:05.740 You and I have talked about your faith and that you're praying to be delivered.

00:42:10.460 Just the fact that the money appeared after people learned of your story shows that God

00:42:16.680 is listening, and now you at least have an attorney to deal with the case.

00:42:22.040 In the event that the case is not dismissed, it would seem to me that Jim Tamagini could

00:42:28.340 be called as a witness as to what he saw and what he did on the day this poor guy died.

00:42:35.660 I mean, it seems to me that based on everything I have read, the state seems to have a pretty

00:42:41.280 weak case, no?

00:42:43.680 Well, not only that, but in every substance that you have a sale, you have a buyer,

00:42:49.920 and you have a seller.

00:42:51.580 The family is the buyer.

00:42:53.320 The family was never offered any immunity for their testimony.

00:42:56.580 The family is essentially guilty of half of this deal.

00:43:02.560 I am not even involved in the deal.

00:43:05.320 Jim and the family are the two parties that are involved, not me.

00:43:08.160 And, however, if it's medically impossible to die from an overdose of ibogaine, then there

00:43:16.960 really isn't a crime, is there?

00:43:19.040 No, they're using outdated references on an 8th edition, which at the time, strangely

00:43:24.900 enough, this goes to show the gross negligence of the lab.

00:43:27.820 The lab is the reason for everything to have started.

00:43:30.680 The lab said that this was the lethal amount.

00:43:33.220 The lab was using an 8th edition volume when the 11th edition was out.

00:43:38.640 The lab only looked through three pages of that 8th edition.

00:43:42.280 Had they looked further, they would have seen that at 1,500 nanograms is the lowest recorded

00:43:48.920 amount in anyone that they saw a death in.

00:43:51.160 This was 1,200.

00:43:52.520 That means in the same volume that they used, the entire case would have never got, it never

00:43:57.520 became a case because no death could have come from it.

00:44:00.560 All right.

00:44:03.000 Tell us a little bit about your son because he's really an amazing kid.

00:44:08.440 Thank you.

00:44:09.620 My son, as you said, he's a chef.

00:44:14.020 He's really, really good at, he made creme brulee last night.

00:44:17.540 He's great with that.

00:44:18.800 Loves to cook steaks.

00:44:19.960 I've raised him my own.

00:44:21.720 We do homeschooling.

00:44:23.040 I'm in Colorado.

00:44:23.820 So basically after his, his brother died, we've, we've, we've basically held, I've held

00:44:29.140 it together for him.

00:44:30.520 His mom is, is, he's still recovering from the loss of her son and, and, you know, I homeschool

00:44:36.560 as he, and, you know, losing my apartment would be, he also loses his schooling.

00:44:41.160 So, uh, I don't know if you guys understand what it's like in Colorado, but I don't want

00:44:45.680 my son being indoctrinated by these philosophies that they have.

00:44:48.660 And I don't think that these philosophies should be taught in school.

00:44:51.640 So I prefer to homeschool my son and, you know, with your help and God's grace, we'll

00:44:56.420 make it.

00:44:58.500 All right.

00:44:59.300 Troy, since you broke the story of one of the biggest stories ever at slingshot.news,

00:45:04.040 final thoughts here.

00:45:05.340 Well, uh, Roger, I have a clip that I want to play for people, uh, out there who may

00:45:09.560 be considering, you know, what's going on here, you know, wait, do I donate, you know,

00:45:13.300 what's going on?

00:45:14.100 Uh, you know, I sat down with, with Amin and his son, uh, as he, for probably two and a

00:45:20.520 half hours, just going through everything that had happened to them in order to make

00:45:24.360 a 20 minute, uh, clip that we, we put out there that I think a lot of you have already

00:45:28.020 seen, uh, hopefully if not, you can go to slingshot news to check it out.

00:45:31.200 Uh, but during that interview, I asked his son, uh, what it would be like to

00:45:35.220 lose his father.

00:45:35.860 And I think it's important, you know, Amin was not involved in this.

00:45:39.540 He has nothing to do with this at all.

00:45:41.360 And yet he's being targeted.

00:45:42.940 And not only is he at risk of losing his life, uh, really, but his son is at risk of

00:45:47.960 losing his father figure, his family, uh, because as you'll see in this clip, uh, I

00:45:52.860 mean, you really are your son's family.

00:45:55.140 You are everything to him.

00:45:56.460 Um, so I would encourage, you know, watch this clip and anybody out there who's, who's,

00:46:00.320 you know, got the means to do it, please, you know, $5, $10, anything you've

00:46:03.820 got, please give it to Amin because he needs, he needs your help, uh, more than just about

00:46:07.780 anybody right now.

00:46:08.440 So let's roll that clip, uh, and then get Roger's thoughts on, uh, close here.

00:46:12.060 My father is a really good person.

00:46:15.300 He has done nothing wrong.

00:46:17.040 He is a great man.

00:46:20.100 I would not be able to grow up properly without this man.

00:46:24.560 He's my mentor.

00:46:25.620 He's my teacher.

00:46:26.500 He is so good.

00:46:28.240 He does everything right for me.

00:46:30.800 He teaches everything for me.

00:46:32.400 I would grow up to be a great parent if this man raises me.

00:46:36.040 My mom has already fell apart into so many pieces after my brother has sadly passed away

00:46:43.600 from stage four cancer.

00:46:48.260 This man is a great man.

00:46:50.980 He is only trying to help the world.

00:46:54.320 My dad needs a lot of help.

00:46:58.080 We, some days we didn't even have that much food.

00:47:01.580 We barely had that much food.

00:47:04.220 Some days my dad didn't eat so I could eat.

00:47:09.080 My dad is so important in my life.

00:47:15.160 Sometimes I just feel like helping him with the few pennies I have.

00:47:23.660 He is the best dad in the world.

00:47:26.440 I do not want to lose him.

00:47:28.720 Losing him is pretty much what my life depends on right now.

00:47:35.240 My mom would not be able to raise me right.

00:47:37.800 Please donate to this man.

00:47:39.860 He did nothing wrong.

00:47:42.780 Very, very powerful and obviously very moving.

00:47:49.640 Folks, I think we've laid it out here for you very well.

00:47:53.940 First of all, I want to thank Andrew and Tristan Tate for stepping up to the plate and sending

00:47:57.640 $10,000 and it came at a crucial time for Amin and his son.

00:48:05.040 Yes, he's got a lawyer, but that's not keeping the lights on, folks.

00:48:09.240 That's not keeping them fed.

00:48:12.600 And again, if this goes to trial, it's going to take a lot more money.

00:48:16.920 Now, obviously, we're praying the case gets dismissed.

00:48:19.640 He does have competent legal counsel now, thanks to the fundraising that's been done.

00:48:25.620 But this case is far from over.

00:48:27.740 We're going to continue to follow it.

00:48:29.900 Let's put up the Give, Send, Go graphic one more time.

00:48:34.520 So, folks, you go to givesendgo.com and you look specifically for the page entitled Save This Innocent Man for the Matrix.

00:48:44.040 Please, whatever you can send, $5, $10, $25, $100, $500, $5,000.

00:48:51.900 Every little bit helps.

00:48:54.680 We're committed to helping Amin and his family to seek justice in this case.

00:49:01.580 And we ask you to do what he's doing, what I'm doing, what Troy is doing, which is to pray for justice in this incredible case.

00:49:09.760 There you see it one more time.

00:49:13.140 All right.

00:49:13.980 I want to thank Amin Alai, a bodybuilding legend, but a man under attack, a man who could lose his freedom and die in prison if federal prosecutors have their way.

00:49:27.480 God bless you, my friend, and thank you for joining us today on The Stone Zone.

00:49:31.980 Thank you, Troy.

00:49:35.300 All right, folks, we got just a few more minutes.

00:49:38.760 Troy, I think we go maybe four minutes, three and a half, four minutes.

00:49:42.720 You want to wrap this up?

00:49:44.080 Well, you know, Roger, we do have one more clip that I want to get your thoughts on because it's just really unbelievable.

00:49:48.660 And I saw this from the Department of Justice today.

00:49:51.200 And I want to get your thoughts because I think here what Merrick Garland is basically saying is that the Department of Justice, you know,

00:49:57.180 despite the lies that he puts throughout this speech of, oh, we're not going to allow the weaponization of the Department of Justice,

00:50:03.040 which they have and they've actually executed under President Joe Biden to raid Mar-a-Lago and charge President Trump with all these BS felonies.

00:50:11.140 But, you know, he carpet bombs the speech throughout with that.

00:50:14.260 But he basically is making the point saying that the Department of Justice is not going to allow Donald Trump to win this election

00:50:20.360 because that would be so abhorrent to the rule of law or the phony rule of law that they have created.

00:50:25.480 So let's roll this clip of Attorney General Merrick Garland today basically declaring that the Department of Justice isn't going to allow Trump to win the election

00:50:32.280 and then get Roger's thoughts on the second half.

00:50:34.840 What is going on here?

00:50:36.600 For us, adhering to these policies, principles and norms in everything we do is how we fulfill the promise that is foundational to our democracy,

00:50:48.800 that all people will be protected equally under the law and that all people will be held accountable equally under the law.

00:50:58.280 Our norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect the independence of this Department from political interference in our criminal investigations.

00:51:13.420 Our norms are a promise that we will not allow this Department to be used as a political weapon.

00:51:20.080 And our norms are a promise that we will not allow this nation to become a country where law enforcement is treated as an apparatus of politics.

00:51:34.920 This whole thing kind of reminds me of that novel 1984, where the truth is the opposite of everything you're being told.

00:52:00.580 So just in the last, I believe, 10 days, the executive orders were renewed, which essentially allowed the federal government to just decide that there was foreign interference in the election and therefore the election results are voided.

00:52:16.240 That's pretty disturbing.

00:52:18.400 We've also seen announcements by the cybersecurity infrastructure security agency that they're going to be policing disinformation on the Internet and in other mediums in the election.

00:52:29.760 Who is to say what's disinformation and what's misinformation and what isn't?

00:52:35.980 So, for example, if you say Kamala Harris never proposed defunding the police, I would say that that's misinformation based on everything I've seen.

00:52:46.460 I guess this is the most troubling thing, which is I believe Donald Trump is going to win this election.

00:52:52.460 But the question is, will he be sworn in as president?

00:52:56.380 I think that the deep state is so deeply committed to stopping him.

00:53:01.820 They've already demonstrated this in the tsunami of lawfare, where so far they have been relatively unsuccessful.

00:53:09.560 In the Florida documents case, the case was dismissed, depending Supreme Court, pardon me, a pending appeal by the special counsel there, which will probably end up going to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:53:22.260 They seem to have missed the boat on trying him for infractions, for interference in the election, not insurrection, but interference in the election in D.C. on January 6th.

00:53:36.260 I'm not even a lawyer, again, it appears that they're going to kind of let Smith put on a public case against Trump before the election, but Trump doesn't get any chance to respond to any of that or to cross-examine the witnesses or evidence that Smith is allowed to make public.

00:53:54.800 That seems very strange to me as well.

00:53:59.720 And then, as I say, the censorship, which is the number one obstacle.

00:54:04.660 Sure, X, for me knows Twitter, is great.

00:54:08.820 And Rumble, where we are today, is terrific.

00:54:12.760 But Facebook, still, I think the number one largest social media platform in the world, is heavily censored.

00:54:21.380 And, by the way, folks, if you see Roger Stone there, he's trying to sell you crypto, please don't buy anything from him, because it's not me.

00:54:29.100 I'm not on Facebook.

00:54:31.280 So, this is deeply disturbing, and the fact that you bring it up, Troy, something I think we should talk more about.

00:54:38.540 Because we had two great guests today, we didn't get a chance to delve into the debate and the ramifications of that.

00:54:45.300 Although I caution people that you can't really pull in the eye of a storm.

00:54:51.100 You have to wait and let public attitudes calm down.

00:54:55.260 And also, public attitudes are affected by the coverage of the event that happens after the event.

00:55:02.100 So, it's going to take a day or two or three to see whether this profoundly changed the race.

00:55:09.000 President Trump believes that he won.

00:55:12.720 Many of his supporters believe that he won.

00:55:15.280 Then you see others on the left insisting that this was a watershed moment for Kamala Harris.

00:55:21.640 I remember a Rand Institute study, which actually showed me the presidential debates didn't move many people,

00:55:27.600 that the vast majority of the people who tuned in already had their mind made up.

00:55:31.520 They were either already for Donald Trump or already for Kamala Harris.

00:55:36.000 More recently, we've seen some evidence that the independents who were watching were not moved by her performance.

00:55:42.840 This race is still a viable, close election.

00:55:47.800 I don't think anything was decided.

00:55:50.280 I'm open-minded about whether there should be another debate.

00:55:53.420 Perhaps there should.

00:55:54.300 Perhaps there should not.

00:55:55.660 It would depend on whether you could get fair moderation.

00:55:58.860 Well, we got, just real quickly on that, Roger, we got breaking news during the show that President Trump has denied a second debate,

00:56:06.760 and he's saying that he was going to refuse to debate Kamala Harris for a second time.

00:56:11.120 And that was breaking news that's broken from several outlets just since we started.

00:56:15.080 So, he said officially he won't do another debate with Kamala Harris.

00:56:18.920 That will be the only debate we see.

00:56:20.240 Interesting.

00:56:22.140 Well, that wasn't a debate.

00:56:23.040 That was a mugging.

00:56:25.600 That's not a debate.

00:56:27.060 That's a mugging.

00:56:28.680 And one of the things I do want to go into, Troy, and I would suggest you look at this for Slingshot.

00:56:33.900 There were more lies told in that debate than ever.

00:56:36.900 But it wasn't Donald Trump telling the lies.

00:56:39.440 I mean, sure, they recycle Charlottesville and all that,

00:56:42.760 but they would have you believe that there's nowhere in the country in which late-term abortion is allowed.

00:56:48.300 There's at least nine states where abortion is allowed right up to the time of birth.

00:56:52.580 That was reported not by me, not by Slingshot, not by the Stone Zone.

00:56:56.960 That was reported by Axios.

00:56:59.380 So, I think a compendium of the lies would be an excellent piece for Slingshot.

00:57:06.000 All right, folks, we got to go.

00:57:07.040 On behalf of my co-host, Troy Smith, and myself, thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 13, 2024

The Attack on Trump! With Dinesh D'Souza and Roger Stone

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