The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:09.940 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:13.540 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:19.700 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:25.040 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:30.660 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:35.980 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:43.420 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone. It's Monday morning, and you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:50.320 I'm very excited about today's show because Human Events Senior Editor Jack Posobiec joins us.

00:00:58.560 And, of course, my sidekick and co-host, Troy Smith, the Editor-in-Chief of Slingshot.News.

00:01:06.980 Troy, welcome back into the Zone.

00:01:10.360 Roger, it's good to have you back in the studio there for a full week of shows.

00:01:14.640 Really excited to be back here, as always.

00:01:16.200 Last week was a heck of a week.

00:01:19.240 I did Detroit, Chicago, Las Vegas.

00:01:22.260 Still got in in time to do Friday's show, but I caught up on sleep,

00:01:27.180 and I'm feeling pretty good about America this morning.

00:01:30.880 Let us bring in our guest, Senior Editor Jack Posobiec,

00:01:35.700 who served his country in the U.S. Navy

00:01:39.160 and is, I think, one of the country's, how shall I put it,

00:01:44.780 most perceptive analysts of the national and geopolitical scene.

00:01:50.700 Jack Posobiec, welcome back in to the Stone Zone.

00:01:54.420 Well, Roger Stone, it's always an honor to be here.

00:01:57.800 And I must say, by the way, having been in attendance

00:02:00.380 and participating with you at that Detroit event,

00:02:03.680 what an incredible turnout it was.

00:02:06.760 You gave an incredible speech, speaking out not only against the regime,

00:02:11.720 the deep state, but lawfare against all opponents of said regime,

00:02:17.000 and I think gave a seminal address, one of several seminal addresses.

00:02:21.980 Mine was a little bit later in the program, but they were,

00:02:25.620 and President Trump's as well.

00:02:27.140 But I really think that was a moment for unity of the movement there in the summer.

00:02:33.400 I myself just coming back from the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Trump rally

00:02:38.040 held at Temple University, my own alma mater,

00:02:42.040 where many, many years ago, 20 years to be exact,

00:02:45.840 I was the chairman of the Temple University College Republicans.

00:02:50.160 So my old stomping grounds brought the kids,

00:02:52.480 was able to show them where I cut my teeth,

00:02:54.580 and I was able to say to the administration,

00:02:57.800 guess who's back, back again.

00:03:01.420 Jack, this is something we have in common, of course,

00:03:04.280 because I was once chairman of the George Washington University College Republicans.

00:03:09.220 It's a great training ground for those who want to get involved in the political process

00:03:13.920 and want to fight for freedom.

00:03:16.380 So what I really want to start off with is,

00:03:18.780 tell us about this Philadelphia rally,

00:03:20.680 because, of course, we could only watch it online.

00:03:23.680 It seems that Joe Biden had an event there also recently.

00:03:28.200 They seem to be quite different.

00:03:30.300 You told me last night that the rally was truly incredible.

00:03:34.620 Tell us more about it.

00:03:36.340 My greatest interest is the makeup of the crowd.

00:03:40.220 What did the crowd look like?

00:03:41.820 The numbers were astronomical.

00:03:44.280 I read between 15,000 and 18,000 people,

00:03:47.380 which in the heart of Democratic territories, pretty impressive.

00:03:51.140 So, Roger, let me paint the picture for you.

00:03:54.340 And I can say this as someone who, like I say,

00:03:57.500 was the college Republican chairman there 20 years ago.

00:04:00.820 In the early 2000s, and this is Bush-era Republican Party,

00:04:05.320 a place like North Philadelphia, a campus like Temple University,

00:04:09.880 it was completely written off.

00:04:11.760 I had to beg Republicans to even consider setting foot.

00:04:16.420 Kurt Weldon is actually a congressman that we had out back in those days,

00:04:19.860 the great Kurt Weldon,

00:04:21.040 an early victim of a Russia gating, I might add,

00:04:25.060 and by the hands of Robert Mueller and his FBI.

00:04:30.200 But Republicans were not interested in coming to Philadelphia.

00:04:33.980 Republicans were not interested in going there.

00:04:35.740 People said there's no reason.

00:04:37.500 Why would a Republican go to Philadelphia?

00:04:39.100 Everyone knows that even though Pennsylvania is a keystone state

00:04:42.460 as it comes to electoral politics,

00:04:44.520 that Republicans should go to Bucks County

00:04:47.720 or the Southeast Collar Counties,

00:04:49.600 perhaps Lancaster, York, or out west,

00:04:52.600 places like Erie, places like Westmoreland County.

00:04:55.760 And so it stunned me that Donald Trump, as the president,

00:05:00.560 would even think of coming to North Philadelphia,

00:05:04.980 let alone a place like that.

00:05:06.400 Roger, this is one of the bluest areas of the bluest campuses in America.

00:05:12.500 And as you ask the makeup of that crowd,

00:05:15.100 this was an extremely diverse audience.

00:05:17.900 People from all walks of life, people from all backgrounds.

00:05:21.880 People know North Philadelphia is certainly quite a diverse area.

00:05:25.820 And you had people coming from all over southeastern Pennsylvania.

00:05:29.860 You had black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans,

00:05:33.560 all sorts of people coming out because,

00:05:36.800 and as President Trump said there,

00:05:38.740 this movement is not about black, brown, white, or other.

00:05:44.260 It is about all Americans uniting under the red, white, and blue of the American flag

00:05:49.140 and giving, and it was very interesting because he said,

00:05:51.660 this is a movement that is predicated on hope.

00:05:54.720 Hope for the future, hope for the country,

00:05:57.020 and hope for our families.

00:05:58.940 And this is a direct contrast to the left, to the Democrats,

00:06:03.620 and really the grievance politics that we hear so much taught on campuses like Temple University,

00:06:09.680 talking about past grievances and how all of our politics must be rooted in 1619

00:06:16.420 and going through things from hundreds of years ago,

00:06:19.000 whereas Trump is presenting a new vision and a new path forward for everyone.

00:06:24.080 And so, Roger, the energy level was through the roof at the Lea Kora Center,

00:06:28.140 and I might add that in every single political event that I've ever been to,

00:06:32.820 Trump or other, I've never seen an event that has had as many people

00:06:37.260 and as many various groups registering voters

00:06:39.880 and getting people involved in early vote action that I saw at this event.

00:06:44.240 Turning Point Action was there.

00:06:45.480 The Trump campaign as well was there, of course, Trump Force 47.

00:06:49.840 Scott Pressler was there.

00:06:51.580 The Pennsylvania Chase and Cliff Maloney were there.

00:06:53.960 And so this was an event where you could not turn around

00:06:57.780 without somebody sticking forms in your face,

00:07:00.100 making sure that you were registered to vote at your current address,

00:07:03.180 and then if you were, asking you to sign up for early voting.

00:07:08.300 Absolutely amazing, Jack.

00:07:10.940 I think what the Trump campaign is proving here

00:07:13.920 is that they do intend to go into all of the inner cities.

00:07:18.060 We saw an amazingly successful event in the South Bronx.

00:07:22.940 Now you've seen it in Philadelphia.

00:07:25.360 I think it's only a matter of time before we head to Cleveland.

00:07:28.620 This is really taking the fight right to the Democrats.

00:07:33.240 Troy, do you have a question for Jack?

00:07:36.180 Absolutely.

00:07:36.740 So as far as Philadelphia is concerned, you know, there's so much fraud there.

00:07:41.100 There's so much, especially in 2020.

00:07:43.020 I think that was one of the main places where we saw the most fraud

00:07:46.620 as far as the elections are concerned.

00:07:48.960 Are there any legal efforts that are coinciding with this rally

00:07:52.300 and this effort to go into the inner cities

00:07:54.140 to try to prevent that from happening again in 2024?

00:07:58.320 Well, there's two efforts that are going forward.

00:08:01.200 One, of course, is the general legal effort from the RNC

00:08:04.780 as spearheaded by Laura Trump and Michael Watley,

00:08:09.000 who actually just spent, I believe they opened two Republican and Trump offices,

00:08:14.680 joint offices in one in the city proper in Northeast Philadelphia

00:08:19.620 and then one just north in Bucks County.

00:08:21.820 Scott Pressler, I believe, was on hand for some of those festivities as well.

00:08:25.860 So they are specifically running those offices as, number one, of course, the early vote action,

00:08:32.240 but then number two, as election integrity offices

00:08:35.260 and making sure that for EDO, Election Day operations,

00:08:38.600 that they will be training poll watchers to specifically look for instances of election interference,

00:08:45.760 instances of intimidation, instances, as I personally saw and documented.

00:08:50.800 I spent Election Day in Philadelphia for both 2020 and 2016,

00:08:55.520 and I personally saw and documented, or my team personally saw and documented,

00:08:59.940 specific instances of Democrat.

00:09:01.920 And as you say, it's not just about the ballot fraud that comes out of Philadelphia,

00:09:05.860 which, of course, they learned from New Jersey, who learned from New York,

00:09:08.440 and Tammany Hall, who invented the thing.

00:09:10.360 It's something of a tradition in the city of Philadelphia, as everybody knows.

00:09:13.080 But you will have Democrat election workers and Democrat strong-armed men going up,

00:09:20.480 even in today's day and age, a viral video.

00:09:23.200 My friend Will Chamberlain got video in 2020 that made the rounds,

00:09:26.500 where Democrats will throw you out if you intimate in any way that you are a Republican

00:09:32.020 and say, this is a Democrat stronghold.

00:09:34.820 Remember, this is the same city all the way back in 2008,

00:09:37.620 where the new Black Panthers were brought up and were intimidating people at the polls.

00:09:43.800 Eric Holder, later, when he became Attorney General, dropped the charges on them.

00:09:47.460 And so we know that, as President Trump tells us, bad things happen in Philadelphia.

00:09:53.240 That's why the second arm of this early vote action, embracing ballots,

00:09:59.180 embracing every method of voting, is so drastic for the Republicans.

00:10:04.000 They're calling it swamp the vote, a fantastic phrase,

00:10:07.600 you know, turning around that phraseology and rhetoric of the word swamp.

00:10:11.600 We're going to swamp the vote in 2024.

00:10:14.000 And by the way, this is just late breaking as of last night.

00:10:18.120 Sean Parnell, another Pennsylvanian, brought this to my attention.

00:10:21.460 I've got the video up on X.

00:10:22.880 Everyone can go see it.

00:10:24.140 That Bob Casey, the senator, and his brother are now running ads in the state of Pennsylvania,

00:10:30.920 where they're taking out-of-context clips of President Trump.

00:10:35.380 This is how terrified they are, folks, of the early vote move by President Trump and the Republicans.

00:10:41.060 They're taking out-of-context clips of Trump discussing the Democrats' efforts for fraud in 2020

00:10:47.680 and telling people, President Trump doesn't want you to vote by mail.

00:10:53.140 President Trump doesn't want you to vote early.

00:10:56.660 And that's $100,000 up TV ads across the state of Pennsylvania paid for by Bob Casey's,

00:11:03.900 the senator's little and former governor's son, little brother.

00:11:07.980 Roger and guys, this is exactly how terrified they are of President Trump's numbers on the ground.

00:11:13.980 They are willing to conduct actual election interference far more than some social media influencer

00:11:20.160 posting memes on Twitter back in 2016.

00:11:23.600 But, of course, we all know who faces legal ramifications for doing something like that.

00:11:29.880 Memes will get you put in jail.

00:11:31.300 But, of course, running false ads telling people that Trump doesn't want you to vote by mail

00:11:36.140 will never be charged.

00:11:38.180 Jack, you make an excellent point.

00:11:42.580 It wasn't too long ago, I remember a video in which Joe Biden actually bragged about putting

00:11:48.180 together the most sophisticated voter fraud operation in American political history.

00:11:54.400 A Freudian slip, perhaps, but I think a reality.

00:11:58.480 I, of course, was mugged last week when I said, essentially, that Republicans must use every

00:12:05.460 legal tool, legal and technical tool, to ensure that the 2024 elections are honest.

00:12:13.460 I speak specifically about judges and lawyers because if you have a situation like you had

00:12:21.020 in Michigan, in Detroit, like you had in Philadelphia, where Democratic officials

00:12:26.200 have Republican observers who are there quite legally physically ejected from the vote counting

00:12:33.540 center, well, you need to be able to get a court order to stop that.

00:12:40.240 And, of course, during the evenings, of course, during the night, are closed.

00:12:44.720 It is well known, for example, in the D.C. circuit, there have been instances where a federal

00:12:50.440 judge had to be called by an attorney for a party, gotten out of bed in order to receive

00:12:56.260 an emergency motion, an emergency appeal.

00:12:59.480 The judge can determine whether the emergency motion has merit or not, but to claim that that

00:13:07.120 is somehow illicit or inappropriate is typical of the hysterical fake news media.

00:13:15.320 And I'll have a lot more to say about that today.

00:13:19.760 It's interesting, Jack, that Pennsylvania is a state where, quite frankly, mail-in balloting

00:13:26.020 is very specifically unconstitutional.

00:13:29.340 The Constitution is very, very clear about the procedures for voting.

00:13:34.240 That was challenged in the lower courts.

00:13:37.320 That challenge was upheld in the middle courts.

00:13:42.840 And then, of course, the incredibly liberal and politicized Pennsylvania State Supreme Court

00:13:50.720 reinstated mail-in ballots.

00:13:53.860 My greatest concern is the chain of custody of those ballots, so we can be certain that they

00:14:01.300 are legitimate.

00:14:02.220 And I'm hopeful, and I'm optimistic, frankly, that the Republican National Committee and other

00:14:08.380 groups they're working with, like Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA, are working on that problem

00:14:15.460 specifically.

00:14:17.020 Troy, your thoughts?

00:14:19.160 Well, you know, Roger, we have so much that people are organizing around right now, and

00:14:24.240 I think it's interesting to see the portrayal of this in the mainstream media.

00:14:27.800 There seems to be this kind of push to question Trump's cognitive ability, and they do this

00:14:35.160 on MSNBC, they do this on NBC, all the mainstream channels, and yet President Joe Biden is hiding

00:14:40.900 in Camp David for the next seven days, or for the seven days prior to this June 27th debate

00:14:47.280 on CNN.

00:14:48.380 Their guy has to literally go into hiding for a week to undergo God knows what kind of medical

00:14:53.860 treatments to be ready for this debate.

00:14:55.580 And yet President Trump is out there, he's in Philadelphia, he was at Faith and Freedom,

00:14:59.820 he did a fantastic job at both of those speeches, and both of those speeches, by the way, over

00:15:05.140 an hour and 20 minutes long.

00:15:06.660 So my question to anybody out there that has any questions about Trump's cognitive ability,

00:15:12.020 could Joe Biden have delivered two hour-plus long speeches in the same day, much less the

00:15:18.400 same week?

00:15:19.380 I think the answer is no.

00:15:20.940 So, Roger, you're making great points about the process here, but to see the media coverage

00:15:26.000 of this, it's kind of absent of any of the fact that you talk about.

00:15:29.820 And I know, Jack, you're very acquainted with the false media portrayals out there.

00:15:33.900 I see you combating them pretty much all day.

00:15:35.740 Well, of course, and CNN's Jake Tapper, of course, is a huge center of that discussion

00:15:43.940 today because earlier this morning, Trump spokeswoman Caroline Levitt brought up the

00:15:49.560 fact on, she was on their morning show with CNN host Casey Hunt, and she brought up the

00:15:55.480 fact that the moderator of the debate, Jake Tapper, who is going to be the head host of

00:16:00.860 the CNN debate coming up in a couple of days, has personally compared Donald Trump to Adolf

00:16:07.820 Hitler on multiple occasions.

00:16:10.460 Now, she didn't say so disparagingly.

00:16:12.600 She didn't say that was an insult, but it's very clear.

00:16:15.000 And I, of course, went and posted videos of Tapper doing just that.

00:16:19.240 So this is Hitler's rhetoric. 0.57

00:16:20.300 This is Hitler's rhetoric over and over. 0.89

00:16:22.120 And these are recent clips.

00:16:23.120 We're not talking about years and years in the past or anything like this.

00:16:25.640 And Casey Hunt then goes, cuts off Caroline Levitt, says, I will not allow anyone to disparage

00:16:33.920 my colleagues, cuts her microphone, throws her off the show. 0.90

00:16:37.720 That clip I've posted, it's got thousands of retweets, millions of views at this point.

00:16:42.860 We then, of course, posted the Jake Tapper clip.

00:16:44.980 But I think that's going to be emblematic and a little preview, sneak preview of what we

00:16:50.760 come to see later on this Thursday night for the debate.

00:16:56.120 And I think that President Trump will, however, avail himself very well in the debate because

00:17:01.200 he knows all this about Tapper.

00:17:03.380 And I think that I do predict that he'll get a few shots in on Tapper, but mainly that he'll

00:17:08.580 be focused on Joe Biden.

00:17:10.840 I actually saw an interesting tweet as well from my friend Brick Suit this morning, which

00:17:15.440 I thought was wonderful because Brick said, not only are they dialing Joe Biden's medication

00:17:20.160 in, but it's quite possible that what they're doing is shifting his sleep schedule because

00:17:25.560 we know he's been conducting some of these overseas trips back and forth to Europe.

00:17:29.900 He's come back to the United States, but they know that he doesn't usually do events that

00:17:34.040 are later in the evening.

00:17:35.340 And we also saw prior to the State of the Union address, he also took some time off of his

00:17:41.780 public event schedule.

00:17:42.820 And his theory, which I thought was fantastic, is that they're shifting his debate or his

00:17:47.920 sleep schedule so that he will be ready and wired for the debate.

00:17:53.040 And of course, I suggested that President Trump could easily counterman this by simply showing

00:17:57.780 up to the debate late.

00:18:00.660 You know, Jack, I find Dana Bash even more troubling than Jake Tapper.

00:18:06.440 Tapper, a man who once actually said on the air that I would look forward to going to jail.

00:18:11.660 Dana Bash is married to Jeremy Bash, a former aide to CIA Director John Brennan.

00:18:20.380 Jeremy Bash is one of the 51 who signed the letter claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop was

00:18:28.580 Russian disinformation.

00:18:31.380 Dana Bash, a Trump basher.

00:18:34.480 So the way I look at this, knowing Tapper, knowing this background on Bash, this is going

00:18:41.640 to be three on one.

00:18:43.780 They're going to be attempting desperately to block for Joe Biden, who, let's face it, at

00:18:49.860 the half point, may not even remember where he is or what he's doing.

00:18:55.520 The expectations for President Trump are therefore extremely high.

00:19:00.340 He is a champion debater.

00:19:03.000 The expectation levels for Joe Biden are exceedingly low.

00:19:07.400 In a strange way, if Biden doesn't drop his pants on stage or just wander off in the middle

00:19:14.660 of the debate, the mainstream media will immediately declare him the winner.

00:19:19.640 What do you think?

00:19:21.560 I think that they're going to declare Joe Biden the winner regardless of what happens.

00:19:26.140 I wouldn't be surprised if the talking points are already written for their spin room and

00:19:30.880 the spin doctors of the media.

00:19:32.720 They're going to, number one, CNN will say, this was an incredible debate.

00:19:36.500 We've been able to overcome the Presidential Commission on Debates, which, of course, this

00:19:41.980 debate is taking place outside of the normal purview of the debate forum that are held

00:19:46.980 traditionally by candidates, but going back several decades now in modern presidential

00:19:52.800 elections, but also they will declare Joe Biden the winner, Roger, no matter what happens

00:19:59.260 on that stage.

00:20:00.300 And they will not show any gaps by Biden.

00:20:03.060 They will not show any moments where he falsely remembers something or he refers to his son,

00:20:09.680 Beau Biden's death and leaves out details or mixes up details, which he has done on multiple

00:20:14.540 occasions now when he's attempting to use that appeal to emotion as a way to cover up the

00:20:20.580 fact of his own administration's deficiencies, their own lack of competence completely.

00:20:28.480 But one of the things that I've actually said to the campaign is that something that they

00:20:33.400 should really do is turn back the clock and say, look, we all know that Joe Biden is shot.

00:20:41.240 We all know that he's mentally not there. 0.98

00:20:43.080 We could rain down those those bombs on him.

00:20:47.020 But really, really, what we should do is understand that it's time to let Joe go on.

00:20:53.300 And he had a great life and he had a great career.

00:20:56.060 And now it's time to put him out to pasture and simply focus on the incompetence, directly

00:21:02.680 draw a line between Joe Biden and Jimmy Carter.

00:21:06.220 And the way that we suggested to do this, we were on the show with Charlie Kirk the other

00:21:09.220 day talking about this, that Joe Biden had the horrific withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:21:16.640 And in fact, when we were there in Philadelphia at that rally, there was a father, there were

00:21:22.080 several families there who had lost their children in that Kabul attack, the Abbey Gate bombing,

00:21:29.900 the honored dead.

00:21:31.880 Their parents were actually in attendance.

00:21:34.120 I hope that Donald Trump can bring them to the debate.

00:21:36.580 I think he should bring them and then directly draw the line to what Joe, excuse me, Jimmy

00:21:41.700 Carter had done all the way back in Desert One and the failed hostage rescue from the

00:21:48.060 Iranian embassy.

00:21:49.140 This is a direct line to America's standing in the world, America's reputation, America's

00:21:55.080 leadership, America's strength.

00:21:57.340 And by the way, America's care of our armed forces, our most precious resource, the American

00:22:05.480 people, and the citizens who are willing to sign up and serve, as I did, in the U.S. military.

00:22:12.220 Jack, you've written an incredible new book to help teach young people about the evils

00:22:17.720 of communism.

00:22:18.320 We're going to come back and talk about that in a few minutes.

00:22:21.200 But in the meantime, I'd like to know what you make of these news stories that President

00:22:26.440 Trump says he has decided on a running mate, that he has not yet told that person that

00:22:32.760 he is his choice, and that that person will be at the debate with him in Philadelphia.

00:22:42.160 I recognize that Donald Trump is the greatest showman of all time.

00:22:46.380 And I recognize the big tease, because let's face it, only Trump knows, he hasn't told anyone

00:22:53.240 else, he hasn't even told the person, he could string this out for some time.

00:23:00.540 What if more than one person shows up at the debate who are known to be under consideration?

00:23:06.320 So I think it is a very clever bid to increase the audience even more, to build the speculation

00:23:13.980 about his running mate even more.

00:23:16.600 But I also know Donald Trump, and he doesn't give anything away until he has to.

00:23:22.320 I think this is a brilliant, brilliant PR move.

00:23:26.120 And perhaps it's true, by the way, perhaps he has chosen somebody, but he could still change

00:23:31.720 his mind since he hasn't made the official offer to anybody.

00:23:35.400 What do you think is going on here?

00:23:38.300 Well, Roger, I couldn't agree more.

00:23:39.780 I mean, this just shows President Trump's ability as a showman to book a program, to generate

00:23:45.380 that hype, to generate the interest.

00:23:47.560 And keep in mind, what he's doing is, before our very eyes, he's holding a real-life new

00:23:54.480 season of The Apprentice, only this time around, it's not for a business.

00:24:00.120 This time around, it's for running the presidency, potentially, of the United States, which is

00:24:04.920 something that Trump has said over and over, that he isn't just trying to choose someone

00:24:09.940 because they fill a certain demographic group or they can reach out to some region of the

00:24:16.680 country he wants or needs help in winning.

00:24:19.540 No, he's actually thinking about it from the perspective of who can do the job of running

00:24:25.320 the country should, God forbid, anything happen to him.

00:24:29.380 And he takes that very seriously.

00:24:31.420 And also, I think, certainly the experience he had with Mike Pence has given him pause and

00:24:37.120 has given him a very high guard when it comes to this selection process, knowing it's one

00:24:43.680 of the most important hires that he will have to do so.

00:24:46.940 And of course, it even takes place prior to the event itself.

00:24:50.120 But knowing this and knowing that everyone is asking this, President Trump is someone

00:24:54.800 who loves playing the game, playing the media, putting out these little tidbits, letting people

00:25:02.040 know, well, they're going to be there, but I'm not going to tell you who it is.

00:25:08.140 And by the way, I'm not going to tell them who it is.

00:25:11.440 I firmly believe that he'll have probably at least three or four members of the purported

00:25:18.740 shortlist there in attendance with him, but probably some wild cards and some curveballs

00:25:24.840 as well that are going to keep people guessing.

00:25:27.820 But ultimately, I would expect us to know very soon.

00:25:31.540 We know this is coming up because there are two events that come up very soon, one of which

00:25:37.120 is the Republican convention, and typically the VP pick is either announced at the convention,

00:25:44.060 sometimes in a unity ticket, it actually comes together at the convention, which has happened

00:25:49.060 in the past, sometimes it's right before the convention, but also another wrinkle in this

00:25:56.580 election odyssey that we find ourselves in, completely unprecedented campaign that we're

00:26:01.440 already in here in 2024, the fact that his sentencing date takes place the Thursday prior

00:26:09.000 to the convening of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

00:26:13.280 And many people have said that depending on the conditions of his release, something that

00:26:19.680 you know well about Roger prior to your pardon by Donald J. Trump as president, that it's entirely

00:26:25.800 possible that that vice president may be needed to be called into service for the very convention,

00:26:31.280 because he might not even be allowed to go.

00:26:35.220 That is an interesting prospect.

00:26:38.320 You know, it's interesting.

00:26:39.980 I've talked to a dozen lawyers.

00:26:41.720 It's very hard to find any two lawyers who agree with each other.

00:26:45.740 Some of them say, well, the president has no prior criminal record, given the nonviolent

00:26:53.320 nature of these charges of which he's been convicted.

00:26:56.840 It's highly unlikely that Judge Merchant would sentence him to incarceration.

00:27:03.980 Wrong, I say.

00:27:05.920 Then they go on to say, well, even if he is sentenced to incarceration, which, by the way,

00:27:11.520 that has to happen before Trump can mount his appeal.

00:27:15.060 Sentencing has to take place before he can legally mount his appeal.

00:27:19.240 Well, surely, they say, the judge would stay that sentence pending appeal.

00:27:25.880 I say we must brace for the worst.

00:27:28.640 I have seen the inherent evil in the eye of Judge Amy Berman Jackson. 0.83

00:27:34.720 I've seen the inherent evil in the eye of Judge Chuck Tan in D.C.

00:27:40.400 I sat in the courtroom.

00:27:43.380 Jack, you were there.

00:27:45.000 We both understand that when the deep state is completely in control, the Constitution,

00:27:51.600 the rules, the evidence, the truth, the constitutional protection, guarantee you a fair trial, all of

00:28:00.000 those things are out the window.

00:28:01.880 So I am praying for the best, but I'm expecting the worst.

00:28:07.560 If this case is about election interference, which, of course, it is, what better way to

00:28:14.300 interfere with the Trump campaign than not allowing Donald Trump to travel to Milwaukee to accept

00:28:21.960 the nomination of the Republican Party with the traditional acceptance speech, which, as you

00:28:28.120 know, normally sets the tone for the entire campaign.

00:28:32.620 Now, that doesn't mean the president couldn't join the convention virally.

00:28:37.760 Personally, I think that the left will be badly overplaying their hand if they do this, but

00:28:44.240 they are so completely verklempt over Trump derangement syndrome, I think anything is possible.

00:28:55.540 I think that's exactly right.

00:28:59.200 And this is, you know, you mentioned the book, and this is something we talk about.

00:29:02.200 We call it the Unhumans Playbook, and that if people want to get this to understand that

00:29:05.780 you're witnessing a system that's been run many, many times.

00:29:08.700 And yes, the media is different.

00:29:10.740 And yes, some of the names are different and the types of this are different.

00:29:13.220 But this is no different than we saw from any type of time or period in the past when

00:29:18.520 a revolutionary movement is able to infiltrate the institutions of power in a country.

00:29:23.680 And yet you will still hear those very same people, Roger.

00:29:26.480 I know you hear this all the time.

00:29:27.660 They'll say, we are the ones who are oppressed.

00:29:29.740 We are the ones who are aggrieved.

00:29:31.480 We are the ones who are fighting back against you.

00:29:33.600 And I always sort of step back and I say, what do you, who are you fighting against?

00:29:37.720 You control all the mainstream media.

00:29:39.460 You control Wall Street.

00:29:41.000 You control predominantly Silicon Valley.

00:29:44.120 There's a couple of signs of shifting over in Silicon Valley.

00:29:47.240 But you control the vast majority of social media apparatus out there.

00:29:51.280 So who is it exactly that is oppressing you?

00:29:54.040 Pray tell.

00:29:55.100 You are the ones doing the bidding of the World Economic Forum and Davos and the globalists

00:30:00.460 and in conjunction with the Chinese Communist Party and this giant system of globalism, which

00:30:05.620 is being run to enrich the wealthy multinationals.

00:30:08.820 So please, please tell me who it is that is oppressing you when the entire ruling class is 0.98

00:30:14.980 on your side and is preaching from the same pulpit you are.

00:30:18.140 Yeah, it's kind of entertaining when you see people who are trying to prevent Donald Trump

00:30:24.120 from having his name appear on the ballot say that we are a danger to democracy.

00:30:30.000 It's kind of amusing to see people who are attempting to censor and cancel people on social media

00:30:36.740 so they can't express their views say that we are the ones who are the threat to democracy.

00:30:43.840 It's really entertaining to see an FBI that illegally surveilled 178,000 Americans without warrants

00:30:53.080 and dipped into the 702 database illegally to spy on U.S. citizens say that we are the ones who are the danger to democracy.

00:31:05.360 Here we have Alinsky's rules writ large.

00:31:09.020 Let's talk about your book.

00:31:10.400 One of the things I find disappointing is when I speak to younger groups, and I'm a sucker for college Republican clubs

00:31:20.460 and other freedom-based young people, Turning Point USA certainly, but when I speak, for example, of Barry Goldwater,

00:31:31.600 who's really the founder of the modern conservative movement, by the way, completely catapulted by human events,

00:31:40.660 who played a key role in the rise of the conservative movement and the takeover of the Republican Party by the conservative movement,

00:31:49.840 there was no more influential news outlet than human events since then and then.

00:31:56.600 It amazes me that people don't know who Barry Goldwater is.

00:32:00.620 They barely know who Abraham Lincoln is, so I think your book is very important.

00:32:05.480 Now, I went to order it.

00:32:06.880 I thought it was already out.

00:32:08.580 I was a little surprised, but realized I had to preorder it, which I've done.

00:32:14.440 But tell us more about the book, and then, of course, tell us where folks can preorder it.

00:32:19.320 I think for purposes of what you say, we talk about Barry Goldwater, and we talk about the fact that he was a staunch anti-communist in the 1960s

00:32:30.700 when he saw the 1960s era and what Lyndon Baines Johnson was doing to our country.

00:32:37.380 But we even go a step further back than that because, as I intimated earlier, this is a system that we have discovered by –

00:32:46.760 and we were doing some podcasts about communism and communist history.

00:32:51.000 People know I have a history with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:32:53.480 I lived in Shanghai for several years.

00:32:55.720 Then I ended up – didn't plan it out this way, but I ended up marrying a woman who – an incredible woman –

00:33:01.760 who got out of the Soviet Union and came to America because she believed in freedom and believed in America as the land of opportunity.

00:33:10.660 So I've got the Soviet background there through my wife and, of course, my family being Polish.

00:33:16.280 Then the Chinese background.

00:33:18.360 Plus, we've been learning more and more about the socialist and communist revolution in Spain in the 1930s, which General Franco fought against.

00:33:27.340 We lay out the Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and what they were all about.

00:33:34.680 We even go back to the French revolution.

00:33:36.680 But, Roger, what I wanted to say about Goldwater, because Goldwater is actually the second leading anti-communist figure in the United States

00:33:44.840 and someone that we talked about in the book and someone that we directly explain to people that has been so maligned, so smeared, so, dare I say, blacklisted by history, the great Senator Joseph McCarthy.

00:34:00.080 We give him a complete review in Unhumans, and he comes out pretty well on the other side of it because what a lot of people don't know and what we have in Unhumans

00:34:11.960 are the declassified, decoded Verona intercepts that were submitted by the NSA following the fall of the Soviet Union and the Soviet archives

00:34:24.100 that detail who specifically were the Soviet and NKVD agents in the United States.

00:34:32.900 And wouldn't it surprise you, Roger, to find that elements of the communists who leaked the nuclear weapons program, elements of the communists who were there at Yalta representing the United States 0.76

00:34:47.920 when FDR was practically invalid in his discussions with Stalin, where the entire future of Eastern Europe, the entire future of East Asia is given to Stalin.

00:34:59.680 Stalin comes out of Yalta with a communist empire, which ranges from Berlin all the way to Beijing.

00:35:08.360 And Senator Joseph McCarthy was naming those specific Soviet infiltrators in the State Department, and then later, as they were coming on the way into the CIA,

00:35:19.220 the Verona intercepts, which we are publishing in Unhumans, one of the first mass public interest history books

00:35:27.320 that's ever included this information shows that many of the names, almost all of the names that he brought up are specifically listed in there.

00:35:37.280 Interestingly, of course, one of those accompanying FDR to Yalta is one, Alger Hiss, working for the State Department.

00:35:46.320 It was a young Richard Nixon, in his first term in Congress, who got information that indicated that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy.

00:35:58.600 Hiss appeared before the House Un-American Activities Committee and vehemently denied this claim.

00:36:06.020 And later, Hiss would actually be charged and convicted of perjury.

00:36:11.220 But when the Soviet Union fell and we actually had access to KGB records, we learned that, in fact, Alger Hiss was a spy.

00:36:22.080 As far as Senator McCarthy is concerned, you made reference to this book.

00:36:27.940 To anyone who wants to say, oh, my God, Roger Stone and Jack Posobiec were defending Joe McCarthy and his tactics,

00:36:36.280 please read the book Blacklisted by History by the late, great M. Stanton Evans.

00:36:42.780 It's a pretty heavy tome, but it indisputably proves that virtually everything that Senator McCarthy said about communist infiltration into the Roosevelt and Truman administrations was absolutely true.

00:37:00.500 Or as Joe McCarthy himself once said, one communist in the State Department is one communist too many.

00:37:07.620 So, Jack, what is the actual release date of the book?

00:37:12.600 Because I think we're hard upon it here, are we not?

00:37:15.220 Well, I appreciate it, Roger.

00:37:16.220 And, of course, we'll be able to make sure to send you and the team there copies of the book so you can have it as well.

00:37:20.880 The actual release date of the book is July 2nd.

00:37:24.320 And so we chose July 2nd because we wanted it to be something that people can get to and read over the July 4th weekend.

00:37:31.060 What greater way to spend your July 4th weekend than reading about the greatest threat to freedom that we face currently and the greatest threat that we have faced throughout history?

00:37:44.220 It is the threat of godless, atheist communism, and, yes, it is back again.

00:37:49.140 And, yes, we have an entire chapter on January 6th.

00:37:52.280 We have an entire chapter on how they have used that to purge patriots and specifically how it was an intended entrapment operation to entrap, to localize, serialize, categorize, and list all of President Trump's most earnest supporters,

00:38:08.700 to entrap them and then go layer by layer the entire patriot movement and have them locked up religious women, priests, all the rest of it. 1.00

00:38:17.860 We see this throughout the book, but most importantly, we use, given my military background, we give you tools and a counter system to actually fight back.

00:38:30.060 And, in fact, one of the things that we say in Non-Humans is, look, some people may be Donald Trump and they have the ability to run for president.

00:38:37.140 Some people might be Elon Musk and they have the ability to own and purchase the means of communication and spread that for us, and we thank them so much.

00:38:46.540 But not everyone has those things.

00:38:48.320 But you know what you do have?

00:38:49.440 You have a backyard, and you have a street corner, and you have the ability to go out there with placards.

00:38:56.060 You have the ability to communicate and interconnect with people in your area.

00:39:02.100 We say be the sheriff of your territory and make those connections.

00:39:08.020 Men, form groups of men.

00:39:10.720 Moms, we already know this is happening.

00:39:12.660 Moms form groups of moms to focus on what's going on in the schools. 0.78

00:39:15.900 We need to take this country back because, Roger, and you know this more than anyone else, these people will not be stopped on their own.

00:39:23.900 And if anything, if I could have one wish that unhumans would be for anyone else, just an update to the operating software of the conservative movement and the Republican Party, that none of this will change unless we start fighting back.

00:39:35.920 And they will not stop unless we stop them through our actions in a direct and primary method.

00:39:43.920 None of this indirect, pointing out the hypocrisy, et cetera, et cetera.

00:39:47.320 No, that is not going to work.

00:39:49.120 These people only respond to reciprocity, and that is what we intend to give them.

00:39:54.340 Yeah, I think that's a very key point.

00:39:57.600 No, we don't speak at all about revenge.

00:40:00.080 What we speak about is equal protection under the law.

00:40:04.400 People who have engaged in treasonous activity, there is no statute of limitation on treason.

00:40:10.940 Those who have acted in a treasonous manner need to be charged with treason and have a fair trial.

00:40:19.020 Now, that's not revenge, that's equal protection under the law, the end of the two-tiered justice system, where, for example, John Brennan can lie to the U.S. Senate about spying on the U.S. Senate, also lie to him about torture, but not be charged with lying to Congress under oath.

00:40:40.820 Jack, tell people the best place where they can go to buy this great book.

00:40:46.640 Well, Roger, thank you so much.

00:40:47.680 Of course, we are up on Amazon, Books a Million, Barnes & Noble.

00:40:51.460 If you want to get your fastest copy, that's right there.

00:40:53.320 If you want a signed copy or a personalized copy, we do those as well, and we've got unhumansbook.com set up for that purpose.

00:41:01.480 It's Unhumans, the secret history of communist revolutions and how to crush them.

00:41:07.360 All right, this is going to be a barn burner, folks.

00:41:10.320 I have pre-ordered my copy.

00:41:12.400 I urge you to do the same.

00:41:14.800 Troy, a final question for our special guest, Jack Posobiec.

00:41:18.860 Absolutely, Jack.

00:41:20.500 You had one of the best moments of the year, I think, when you brought Alex Jones up on stage at the Turning Point Conference.

00:41:26.720 What was that like as somebody just seeing that?

00:41:28.600 Because I think that's going to go down as a historic moment.

00:41:31.500 I really do.

00:41:32.140 Well, you know, Troy, I have to say I've had a few moments.

00:41:35.640 I've been at a few events.

00:41:36.900 I've been at a few of these turning points, but there was nothing like standing there with Alex Jones.

00:41:42.820 And we checked on this.

00:41:43.820 That was his very first appearance at a Turning Point event.

00:41:47.440 And, Roger, we were speaking before about how this was an event about uniting the entire movement.

00:41:52.280 And I think that's really what it was, unity in the face of what they throw at us.

00:41:55.840 And we've seen the persecution of Donald Trump.

00:41:59.620 We've seen prosecutions against people like Roger Yourself, like Steve Bannon, who is supposed to surrender to jail just in a few days here, which I know you've spoken out against.

00:42:08.100 And then Alex Jones, their attempts to take away his company, their attempts to take away his voice, to tear his tongue out of his mouth.

00:42:17.160 Well, as they say, when you cut out a man's tongue, it shows the world that you are terrified of what he has to say. 0.60

00:42:25.160 And when I was there with Alex Jones, I was more than proud to hand my microphone to him and give him an allotment of my time to allow him to address the world as to what is actually going on.

00:42:38.080 And the absolute energy of standing there with the man who is breaking the conditioning and the man who taught us, and as we were all chanting, the answer to 1984 is 1776.

00:42:51.580 I think it was, as you say, a seminal moment, not only for politics, but also for the country, where we understand that this movement is not about going and complaining and whining about all of the things that are going wrong in the country.

00:43:06.120 No, we are not complaining and whining.

00:43:07.560 We are going to go out and actually take our country back. 0.98

00:43:10.560 We will take it back directly, and they can say whatever they want about us, but we know that God is on our side.

00:43:17.220 All right.

00:43:17.900 I want to thank our very special guest, Jack Posobiec.

00:43:21.640 I want to urge you to order his great book today.

00:43:25.200 Jack, thanks for joining us here yet again in the Stone Zone.

00:43:29.620 God bless, Roger.

00:43:30.360 Have a great day.

00:43:31.020 You too, Troy.

00:43:31.360 All right, folks.

00:43:34.360 Jack Posobiec, one of the most perceptive and, I think, active anti-communists in the country, doing a great job at UN events, which I indicated to you as one of the seminal conservative media outlets in the country.

00:43:50.000 Very much responsible for the rise of Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, and then later Donald Trump.

00:43:58.000 I do want to put in a good word for my own book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.

00:44:07.840 Now, this book is a murder mystery in which I make the case, using both eyewitness evidence, fingerprint evidence, and deep Texas politics, that it was Lyndon Baines Johnson, the sitting vice president, who, along with the Central Intelligence Agency, organized crime, big Texas oil, with the acquiescence of the Secret Service and the cover-up by the FBI,

00:44:36.500 who orchestrated the murder of President John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson had the motive, means, and opportunity, and, as they say, Cui Bono, who had the most to benefit.

00:44:51.160 Why Johnson?

00:44:51.880 Well, because he was about to be removed from the 1964 ticket and was the subject of two corruption investigations, one, the Billy Sal Estes investigation.

00:45:05.080 Billy Sal Estes was a flamboyant Texas Wheeler dealer who Johnson was getting enormous multimillion-dollar agricultural contracts for, but Sal Estes was kicking back to Johnson.

00:45:18.420 And Bobby Baker, Secretary of the Senate, Lyndon Johnson's strong right-hand man, some might say bag man, who had just collected an enormous bribe from General Dynamics connected to a defense contract, a story that the syndicated columnist, Drew Pearson, probably the most influential columnist of his time, was supposed to break on November 23rd.

00:45:47.800 That column got spiked because, well, it proved that Johnson had taken a bribe.

00:45:54.560 You can get your copy of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.

00:46:03.700 That's themanwhokilledkennedy.com.

00:46:06.180 Now, when you go there, you will get the paperback version of the book, which has three extra chapters, quite different than the original hardcover, and it would be my privilege to not only sign it for you, but if you request it, I will personalize it to you.

00:46:22.780 So, please, if you love history and politics and you love a good murder mystery, order your copy of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, today by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.

00:46:38.540 All right, Troy, let's return to the political arena.

00:46:43.220 What else do you have lined up for us?

00:46:45.880 Well, Roger, it was on your WABC radio program that Congressman Ronnie Jackson, I believe, first called on President Joe Biden to take not only a cognitive test, but a drug test prior to Thursday's CNN debate with President Donald Trump.

00:47:00.420 He went on Fox News and other networks this week and was demanding that Biden take that test in additional networks.

00:47:09.540 So, let's run that clip and get your thoughts on what the congressman had to say about President Joe Biden on the other side.

00:47:15.240 I have sent five letters previously asking for President Biden to submit to a cognitive test, very similar to the one that President Trump got while he was president, and all five of those letters have gone completely ignored.

00:47:26.400 So, tomorrow I'm sending a letter to President Biden, to his physician, Dr. O'Connor, and I'm CC in his entire cabinet, and it's embarrassing that I have to do this, and it's really embarrassing as a former White House physician to have to do something like this, but we don't have any choice based on what's going on.

00:47:43.540 But I'm going to be demanding on behalf of many millions of concerned Americans right now that he submit to a drug test before and after this debate, specifically looking for performance-enhancing drugs, because we've seen recently in his State of the Union address that there was a Joe Biden that came out that was not similar at all to what we see on a day-to-day basis for the last three and a half years.

00:48:07.180 And there's just really no way to explain that other than he was on something, that they didn't give any medications.

00:48:12.380 I feel like this is probably what's going on over this week at Camp David.

00:48:15.800 You know, he's going to be at Camp David for a full week before the debate.

00:48:18.580 Part of that is probably experimenting with, you know, just getting the doses just right, because, you know, they have to treat his cognition.

00:48:24.140 They have to give him something to help him think straighter.

00:48:26.240 They have to give him something to wake him up, you know, for his alertness.

00:48:29.800 And then, you know, he's been agitated.

00:48:31.320 We see that all the time, and that's a common symptom or sign of this cognitive disorder that he seems to be suffering from.

00:48:41.260 And so they're probably going to give him something to take the edge off that as well.

00:48:45.520 You know, I'd like to point out that Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who was an admiral in the U.S. Navy, worked in the White House Medical Unit for 14 years,

00:48:56.940 eventually rose to be the physician for three presidents.

00:49:01.820 He was the physician for George W. Bush, President George W. Bush.

00:49:06.560 He was the physician for President Barack Obama.

00:49:10.140 And then he became the official government physician for President Donald Trump.

00:49:15.940 He subsequently resigned his Navy commission, and he ran for Congress quite successfully in Texas.

00:49:23.940 I think it's very courageous, but he's not speaking here as a political figure.

00:49:29.140 He's speaking here as an experienced doctor.

00:49:33.980 We both know, of course, that Joe Biden won't submit to a drug test.

00:49:39.240 But we also know that without some kind of drug treatment, it's virtually impossible to imagine him getting through this debate.

00:49:47.980 Troy, I noticed in the State of the Union, first of all, he appeared to be in a highly agitated state, but he almost wound down like a wind-up clock.

00:49:58.680 In other words, he came out smoking in the first 15 minutes, but he slowly faded over the rest of the speech.

00:50:07.840 I have a feeling we're going to see that phenomena Thursday night.

00:50:13.140 But then he's got Jake Tapper and Dana Bash who can block for him, which is why I say it's going to be three on one.

00:50:22.760 Well, and Roger, you know, it's kind of, I think the mainstream media, the people there, the Jake Tappers of the world, as Caroline Levitt pointed out and got cut off of CNN for saying, you know, she's exactly right in saying that these hosts have compared Trump to Hitler.

00:50:38.320 So the idea that they're going to be, you know, impartial, I think it's just absurd.

00:50:41.960 And it speaks to the overall negative view of the former president that the press really has.

00:50:48.460 And, you know, I think Jack Posobiec was right when he said this during our interview just now.

00:50:54.080 The mainstream media portrays Trump's speeches. 0.71

00:50:57.420 They portray them as, oh, he's dark and he's evil and he's, you know, Hitler.

00:51:02.260 They say that straight up.

00:51:03.780 But if you really watch the speeches and you watch what goes on around these speeches, that's not the case.

00:51:08.460 They're actually incredibly positive, especially when you contrast them with what goes on in the world of guilt and shame in the Democrat Party.

00:51:17.420 One of these moments that I saw over the weekend I wanted to get your comment on was a young fan of President Trump meeting him while he was getting cheesesteaks in Philadelphia prior to his rally.

00:51:28.500 This little guy dressed up as Trump was actually moved to tears upon meeting Trump, who he claimed is his hero with his parents there.

00:51:36.700 He actually got a photo with the president.

00:51:38.200 The president signed a $20 bill for him.

00:51:41.180 So let's roll that clip and get Roger's reaction to this heartwarming moment from Philadelphia yesterday.

00:51:46.840 Make sure he gets a special sandwich for himself.

00:51:50.140 Yeah, I'm going to do something.

00:51:51.360 Come here.

00:51:52.180 You're going to hit a pin to it.

00:51:53.280 You know what?

00:51:54.160 Watch.

00:51:54.620 Look at him, huh?

00:51:55.600 Am I cool?

00:51:56.880 Okay, hold it for now.

00:52:00.440 You know who that is?

00:52:02.080 Yeah, Jack.

00:52:03.040 That's right.

00:52:03.940 All right, dude.

00:52:05.220 I'm going to sign it for you.

00:52:06.700 We're going to make it on you guys.

00:52:09.220 We're going to add some value.

00:52:11.780 We're going to have a map.

00:52:13.380 Look at him.

00:52:17.720 All right, Timmy.

00:52:23.280 Look at me.

00:52:24.180 Look at this guy now.

00:52:25.340 Come in.

00:52:26.720 Hold it.

00:52:27.500 You're right.

00:52:27.800 We just added a little value.

00:52:30.020 I like that kid.

00:52:35.380 Timmy McConnell.

00:52:37.900 So if your parents don't want you, I'll take you.

00:52:40.060 Yeah, baby.

00:52:41.800 He's a good boy.

00:52:43.100 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:52:45.100 Thank you so much.

00:52:45.880 What a guy he is.

00:52:48.060 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:52:50.960 Can you imagine Hillary Clinton doing that?

00:52:54.300 In fact, we found a memo, which I cite in my book, The Clinton's War on Women, distributed

00:52:59.900 to the White House staff, which says that if you encounter the First Lady in the hallways

00:53:05.280 or elsewhere in the old EOB or in the White House, you are to avert your gaze and at no

00:53:13.000 time speak to her unless spoken to. 0.95

00:53:15.840 Quite a difference between Hillary Clinton, who is a sociopath, I mean, who is a foul-mouthed, short-tempered, entitled kleptocrat, who would steal a hot stove, and who really doesn't like people. 1.00

00:53:36.940 You see, that's the thing about Donald Trump. 0.95

00:53:39.280 He loves people.

00:53:40.760 He gets strength from people.

00:53:43.900 And just that example was a perfect example.

00:53:48.080 There are so many stories, which you never see, about him helping people in distress long

00:53:54.820 before he was in politics, long before he was looking to win votes, he would read a story

00:53:59.880 about people who had had some disaster in their life, needed surgery but couldn't afford it,

00:54:06.700 were homeless, all kinds of acts of kindness that he undertook only on the condition that

00:54:15.360 there would be no publicity.

00:54:17.900 I've known him 45 years.

00:54:19.740 This happened many, many, many times.

00:54:22.720 He is a man of the people who is loved by the people.

00:54:27.960 And I think that clip showed it.

00:54:30.300 Troy, we've got about four minutes.

00:54:32.300 Let's wrap this up.

00:54:33.720 What else you got?

00:54:35.160 Well, Roger, there is a lot of talk about the speculation of who Trump will choose as his vice president.

00:54:41.260 And we had an article on Slingshot over the weekend.

00:54:43.880 It went over 1.3 million views on Twitter, talking about Tulsi Gabbard as his vice president.

00:54:50.240 We also have heard a lot about Doug Burgum and Ben Carson, who, of course, challenged Trump in 2016.

00:54:58.060 And the two, he served in the Trump administration.

00:55:00.480 So I just wanted to get your thoughts.

00:55:02.700 As of right now, you're looking at Burgum.

00:55:04.800 You're looking at Gabbard.

00:55:05.840 You're looking at Carson and others.

00:55:08.000 Who's your choice?

00:55:09.740 I mean, who do you think the president would be best in choosing?

00:55:12.680 I know you don't want to make a choice for him, but.

00:55:15.580 Well, I made it pretty clear.

00:55:16.700 I'm not endorsing any candidate.

00:55:18.800 But I've been pretty direct about the fact that I think Tulsi Gabbard would throw the Democrats into a fit.

00:55:28.140 That's because I believe she has a unique appeal to independents and Democrats as a former Democrat.

00:55:35.260 On the big picture issues, the issues of the war in Ukraine, where, like Trump, she would send no more funding, like our border, which she insists needs to be sealed, like her commitment to the Second Amendment.

00:55:51.100 She's an avid shooter herself and, of course, committed to the right to life.

00:55:58.620 She's very solid.

00:55:59.960 My friends who say, well, she used to be a Democrat, well, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat.

00:56:05.820 In fact, Donald Trump was once, even briefly for two years, a Democrat, kind of his protest against the Iraq War.

00:56:13.700 She would be my first choice.

00:56:15.520 She's a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve.

00:56:19.340 She is a combat veteran in Iraq and Kuwait.

00:56:23.960 She's a championship surfer. 0.98

00:56:26.080 But more importantly, I think she has unique appeal to those Kennedy voters who are anti-Deep State but are concerned about whether Donald Trump will get rolled by them in a second term.

00:56:41.840 Now, despite the efforts of the deep state to impede, water down, dilute, or derail Trump's agenda, they were unable to do so in his first term.

00:56:54.260 And he still goes down as one of our greatest presidents.

00:56:57.580 But I think the positioning of Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket would be my choice.

00:57:05.100 But in the administration, if not, it would be a clear signal to people that this administration is awake when it comes to the dangers posed by the deep state and the Democrat media cabal.

00:57:20.860 All right, Troy, we are out of time for today.

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