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00:32:08.580I was a little surprised, but realized I had to preorder it, which I've done.
00:32:14.440But tell us more about the book, and then, of course, tell us where folks can preorder it.
00:32:19.320I think for purposes of what you say, we talk about Barry Goldwater, and we talk about the fact that he was a staunch anti-communist in the 1960s
00:32:30.700when he saw the 1960s era and what Lyndon Baines Johnson was doing to our country.
00:32:37.380But we even go a step further back than that because, as I intimated earlier, this is a system that we have discovered by –
00:32:46.760and we were doing some podcasts about communism and communist history.
00:32:51.000People know I have a history with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:32:53.480I lived in Shanghai for several years.
00:32:55.720Then I ended up – didn't plan it out this way, but I ended up marrying a woman who – an incredible woman –
00:33:01.760who got out of the Soviet Union and came to America because she believed in freedom and believed in America as the land of opportunity.
00:33:10.660So I've got the Soviet background there through my wife and, of course, my family being Polish.
00:33:18.360Plus, we've been learning more and more about the socialist and communist revolution in Spain in the 1930s, which General Franco fought against.
00:33:27.340We lay out the Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and what they were all about.
00:33:34.680We even go back to the French revolution.
00:33:36.680But, Roger, what I wanted to say about Goldwater, because Goldwater is actually the second leading anti-communist figure in the United States
00:33:44.840and someone that we talked about in the book and someone that we directly explain to people that has been so maligned, so smeared, so, dare I say, blacklisted by history, the great Senator Joseph McCarthy.
00:34:00.080We give him a complete review in Unhumans, and he comes out pretty well on the other side of it because what a lot of people don't know and what we have in Unhumans
00:34:11.960are the declassified, decoded Verona intercepts that were submitted by the NSA following the fall of the Soviet Union and the Soviet archives
00:34:24.100that detail who specifically were the Soviet and NKVD agents in the United States.
00:34:32.900And wouldn't it surprise you, Roger, to find that elements of the communists who leaked the nuclear weapons program, elements of the communists who were there at Yalta representing the United States
00:34:47.920when FDR was practically invalid in his discussions with Stalin, where the entire future of Eastern Europe, the entire future of East Asia is given to Stalin.
00:34:59.680Stalin comes out of Yalta with a communist empire, which ranges from Berlin all the way to Beijing.
00:35:08.360And Senator Joseph McCarthy was naming those specific Soviet infiltrators in the State Department, and then later, as they were coming on the way into the CIA,
00:35:19.220the Verona intercepts, which we are publishing in Unhumans, one of the first mass public interest history books
00:35:27.320that's ever included this information shows that many of the names, almost all of the names that he brought up are specifically listed in there.
00:35:37.280Interestingly, of course, one of those accompanying FDR to Yalta is one, Alger Hiss, working for the State Department.
00:35:46.320It was a young Richard Nixon, in his first term in Congress, who got information that indicated that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy.
00:35:58.600Hiss appeared before the House Un-American Activities Committee and vehemently denied this claim.
00:36:06.020And later, Hiss would actually be charged and convicted of perjury.
00:36:11.220But when the Soviet Union fell and we actually had access to KGB records, we learned that, in fact, Alger Hiss was a spy.
00:36:22.080As far as Senator McCarthy is concerned, you made reference to this book.
00:36:27.940To anyone who wants to say, oh, my God, Roger Stone and Jack Posobiec were defending Joe McCarthy and his tactics,
00:36:36.280please read the book Blacklisted by History by the late, great M. Stanton Evans.
00:36:42.780It's a pretty heavy tome, but it indisputably proves that virtually everything that Senator McCarthy said about communist infiltration into the Roosevelt and Truman administrations was absolutely true.
00:37:00.500Or as Joe McCarthy himself once said, one communist in the State Department is one communist too many.
00:37:07.620So, Jack, what is the actual release date of the book?
00:37:12.600Because I think we're hard upon it here, are we not?
00:37:16.220And, of course, we'll be able to make sure to send you and the team there copies of the book so you can have it as well.
00:37:20.880The actual release date of the book is July 2nd.
00:37:24.320And so we chose July 2nd because we wanted it to be something that people can get to and read over the July 4th weekend.
00:37:31.060What greater way to spend your July 4th weekend than reading about the greatest threat to freedom that we face currently and the greatest threat that we have faced throughout history?
00:37:44.220It is the threat of godless, atheist communism, and, yes, it is back again.
00:37:49.140And, yes, we have an entire chapter on January 6th.
00:37:52.280We have an entire chapter on how they have used that to purge patriots and specifically how it was an intended entrapment operation to entrap, to localize, serialize, categorize, and list all of President Trump's most earnest supporters,
00:38:08.700to entrap them and then go layer by layer the entire patriot movement and have them locked up religious women, priests, all the rest of it.
00:38:17.860We see this throughout the book, but most importantly, we use, given my military background, we give you tools and a counter system to actually fight back.
00:38:30.060And, in fact, one of the things that we say in Non-Humans is, look, some people may be Donald Trump and they have the ability to run for president.
00:38:37.140Some people might be Elon Musk and they have the ability to own and purchase the means of communication and spread that for us, and we thank them so much.
00:39:10.720Moms, we already know this is happening.
00:39:12.660Moms form groups of moms to focus on what's going on in the schools.
00:39:15.900We need to take this country back because, Roger, and you know this more than anyone else, these people will not be stopped on their own.
00:39:23.900And if anything, if I could have one wish that unhumans would be for anyone else, just an update to the operating software of the conservative movement and the Republican Party, that none of this will change unless we start fighting back.
00:39:35.920And they will not stop unless we stop them through our actions in a direct and primary method.
00:39:43.920None of this indirect, pointing out the hypocrisy, et cetera, et cetera.
00:39:49.120These people only respond to reciprocity, and that is what we intend to give them.
00:39:54.340Yeah, I think that's a very key point.
00:39:57.600No, we don't speak at all about revenge.
00:40:00.080What we speak about is equal protection under the law.
00:40:04.400People who have engaged in treasonous activity, there is no statute of limitation on treason.
00:40:10.940Those who have acted in a treasonous manner need to be charged with treason and have a fair trial.
00:40:19.020Now, that's not revenge, that's equal protection under the law, the end of the two-tiered justice system, where, for example, John Brennan can lie to the U.S. Senate about spying on the U.S. Senate, also lie to him about torture, but not be charged with lying to Congress under oath.
00:40:40.820Jack, tell people the best place where they can go to buy this great book.
00:41:43.820That was his very first appearance at a Turning Point event.
00:41:47.440And, Roger, we were speaking before about how this was an event about uniting the entire movement.
00:41:52.280And I think that's really what it was, unity in the face of what they throw at us.
00:41:55.840And we've seen the persecution of Donald Trump.
00:41:59.620We've seen prosecutions against people like Roger Yourself, like Steve Bannon, who is supposed to surrender to jail just in a few days here, which I know you've spoken out against.
00:42:08.100And then Alex Jones, their attempts to take away his company, their attempts to take away his voice, to tear his tongue out of his mouth.
00:42:17.160Well, as they say, when you cut out a man's tongue, it shows the world that you are terrified of what he has to say.
00:42:25.160And when I was there with Alex Jones, I was more than proud to hand my microphone to him and give him an allotment of my time to allow him to address the world as to what is actually going on.
00:42:38.080And the absolute energy of standing there with the man who is breaking the conditioning and the man who taught us, and as we were all chanting, the answer to 1984 is 1776.
00:42:51.580I think it was, as you say, a seminal moment, not only for politics, but also for the country, where we understand that this movement is not about going and complaining and whining about all of the things that are going wrong in the country.
00:43:06.120No, we are not complaining and whining.
00:43:07.560We are going to go out and actually take our country back.
00:43:10.560We will take it back directly, and they can say whatever they want about us, but we know that God is on our side.
00:43:34.360Jack Posobiec, one of the most perceptive and, I think, active anti-communists in the country, doing a great job at UN events, which I indicated to you as one of the seminal conservative media outlets in the country.
00:43:50.000Very much responsible for the rise of Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, and then later Donald Trump.
00:43:58.000I do want to put in a good word for my own book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
00:44:07.840Now, this book is a murder mystery in which I make the case, using both eyewitness evidence, fingerprint evidence, and deep Texas politics, that it was Lyndon Baines Johnson, the sitting vice president, who, along with the Central Intelligence Agency, organized crime, big Texas oil, with the acquiescence of the Secret Service and the cover-up by the FBI,
00:44:36.500who orchestrated the murder of President John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson had the motive, means, and opportunity, and, as they say, Cui Bono, who had the most to benefit.
00:44:51.880Well, because he was about to be removed from the 1964 ticket and was the subject of two corruption investigations, one, the Billy Sal Estes investigation.
00:45:05.080Billy Sal Estes was a flamboyant Texas Wheeler dealer who Johnson was getting enormous multimillion-dollar agricultural contracts for, but Sal Estes was kicking back to Johnson.
00:45:18.420And Bobby Baker, Secretary of the Senate, Lyndon Johnson's strong right-hand man, some might say bag man, who had just collected an enormous bribe from General Dynamics connected to a defense contract, a story that the syndicated columnist, Drew Pearson, probably the most influential columnist of his time, was supposed to break on November 23rd.
00:45:47.800That column got spiked because, well, it proved that Johnson had taken a bribe.
00:45:54.560You can get your copy of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.
00:46:06.180Now, when you go there, you will get the paperback version of the book, which has three extra chapters, quite different than the original hardcover, and it would be my privilege to not only sign it for you, but if you request it, I will personalize it to you.
00:46:22.780So, please, if you love history and politics and you love a good murder mystery, order your copy of The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, today by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.
00:46:38.540All right, Troy, let's return to the political arena.
00:46:43.220What else do you have lined up for us?
00:46:45.880Well, Roger, it was on your WABC radio program that Congressman Ronnie Jackson, I believe, first called on President Joe Biden to take not only a cognitive test, but a drug test prior to Thursday's CNN debate with President Donald Trump.
00:47:00.420He went on Fox News and other networks this week and was demanding that Biden take that test in additional networks.
00:47:09.540So, let's run that clip and get your thoughts on what the congressman had to say about President Joe Biden on the other side.
00:47:15.240I have sent five letters previously asking for President Biden to submit to a cognitive test, very similar to the one that President Trump got while he was president, and all five of those letters have gone completely ignored.
00:47:26.400So, tomorrow I'm sending a letter to President Biden, to his physician, Dr. O'Connor, and I'm CC in his entire cabinet, and it's embarrassing that I have to do this, and it's really embarrassing as a former White House physician to have to do something like this, but we don't have any choice based on what's going on.
00:47:43.540But I'm going to be demanding on behalf of many millions of concerned Americans right now that he submit to a drug test before and after this debate, specifically looking for performance-enhancing drugs, because we've seen recently in his State of the Union address that there was a Joe Biden that came out that was not similar at all to what we see on a day-to-day basis for the last three and a half years.
00:48:07.180And there's just really no way to explain that other than he was on something, that they didn't give any medications.
00:48:12.380I feel like this is probably what's going on over this week at Camp David.
00:48:15.800You know, he's going to be at Camp David for a full week before the debate.
00:48:18.580Part of that is probably experimenting with, you know, just getting the doses just right, because, you know, they have to treat his cognition.
00:48:24.140They have to give him something to help him think straighter.
00:48:26.240They have to give him something to wake him up, you know, for his alertness.
00:48:29.800And then, you know, he's been agitated.
00:48:31.320We see that all the time, and that's a common symptom or sign of this cognitive disorder that he seems to be suffering from.
00:48:41.260And so they're probably going to give him something to take the edge off that as well.
00:48:45.520You know, I'd like to point out that Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who was an admiral in the U.S. Navy, worked in the White House Medical Unit for 14 years,
00:48:56.940eventually rose to be the physician for three presidents.
00:49:01.820He was the physician for George W. Bush, President George W. Bush.
00:49:06.560He was the physician for President Barack Obama.
00:49:10.140And then he became the official government physician for President Donald Trump.
00:49:15.940He subsequently resigned his Navy commission, and he ran for Congress quite successfully in Texas.
00:49:23.940I think it's very courageous, but he's not speaking here as a political figure.
00:49:29.140He's speaking here as an experienced doctor.
00:49:33.980We both know, of course, that Joe Biden won't submit to a drug test.
00:49:39.240But we also know that without some kind of drug treatment, it's virtually impossible to imagine him getting through this debate.
00:49:47.980Troy, I noticed in the State of the Union, first of all, he appeared to be in a highly agitated state, but he almost wound down like a wind-up clock.
00:49:58.680In other words, he came out smoking in the first 15 minutes, but he slowly faded over the rest of the speech.
00:50:07.840I have a feeling we're going to see that phenomena Thursday night.
00:50:13.140But then he's got Jake Tapper and Dana Bash who can block for him, which is why I say it's going to be three on one.
00:50:22.760Well, and Roger, you know, it's kind of, I think the mainstream media, the people there, the Jake Tappers of the world, as Caroline Levitt pointed out and got cut off of CNN for saying, you know, she's exactly right in saying that these hosts have compared Trump to Hitler.
00:50:38.320So the idea that they're going to be, you know, impartial, I think it's just absurd.
00:50:41.960And it speaks to the overall negative view of the former president that the press really has.
00:50:48.460And, you know, I think Jack Posobiec was right when he said this during our interview just now.
00:50:54.080The mainstream media portrays Trump's speeches.
00:50:57.420They portray them as, oh, he's dark and he's evil and he's, you know, Hitler.
00:51:03.780But if you really watch the speeches and you watch what goes on around these speeches, that's not the case.
00:51:08.460They're actually incredibly positive, especially when you contrast them with what goes on in the world of guilt and shame in the Democrat Party.
00:51:17.420One of these moments that I saw over the weekend I wanted to get your comment on was a young fan of President Trump meeting him while he was getting cheesesteaks in Philadelphia prior to his rally.
00:51:28.500This little guy dressed up as Trump was actually moved to tears upon meeting Trump, who he claimed is his hero with his parents there.
00:51:36.700He actually got a photo with the president.
00:51:38.200The president signed a $20 bill for him.
00:51:41.180So let's roll that clip and get Roger's reaction to this heartwarming moment from Philadelphia yesterday.
00:51:46.840Make sure he gets a special sandwich for himself.
00:53:15.840Quite a difference between Hillary Clinton, who is a sociopath, I mean, who is a foul-mouthed, short-tempered, entitled kleptocrat, who would steal a hot stove, and who really doesn't like people.
00:53:36.940You see, that's the thing about Donald Trump.
00:55:18.800But I've been pretty direct about the fact that I think Tulsi Gabbard would throw the Democrats into a fit.
00:55:28.140That's because I believe she has a unique appeal to independents and Democrats as a former Democrat.
00:55:35.260On the big picture issues, the issues of the war in Ukraine, where, like Trump, she would send no more funding, like our border, which she insists needs to be sealed, like her commitment to the Second Amendment.
00:55:51.100She's an avid shooter herself and, of course, committed to the right to life.
00:56:26.080But more importantly, I think she has unique appeal to those Kennedy voters who are anti-Deep State but are concerned about whether Donald Trump will get rolled by them in a second term.
00:56:41.840Now, despite the efforts of the deep state to impede, water down, dilute, or derail Trump's agenda, they were unable to do so in his first term.
00:56:54.260And he still goes down as one of our greatest presidents.
00:56:57.580But I think the positioning of Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket would be my choice.
00:57:05.100But in the administration, if not, it would be a clear signal to people that this administration is awake when it comes to the dangers posed by the deep state and the Democrat media cabal.
00:57:20.860All right, Troy, we are out of time for today.
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