The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 26, 2024


The Second Biggest Sex Trafficking Ring In US History Exposed Today On The StoneZONE!


Episode Stats

Length

59 minutes

Words per Minute

126.01782

Word Count

7,537

Sentence Count

570

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times best-selling author, and a long-time friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four+ decades in the political and cultural arena, Roger Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host: Roger Stone, and yes indeed, you are back in the Stone Zone. Today s guest is Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief at Slingshot News, and he s working to expose the nefarious plot by House Republicans to hand control of the House of Representatives over to the Democrats. And we have learned that the same nefarious financier is working a similar strategy in the U.S. Senate. Later in the program, we explore the Franklin scandal, which reached into the highest levels of state government in Nebraska, as well as Washington D.C., and Alicia Owens, who actually served time in jail because of her accurate testimony about being victimized in the Franklin Scandal. Can t wait to break that down with you here in The Stone Zone? Go there and subscribe to the show! It costs nothing, and you will get cutting-edge investigative journalism, as a good measure of pop culture, arts and other great items! Also, you can see it at Stonezone. And you can be on the cutting edge of this particular issue by becoming a member of the Stonezone Club. . Subscribe to The Stonezone Podcast! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices and other VIP memberships. The StoneZONE Club - become a supporter of The StoneZone Club - learn more about the StoneZ Zone Club and get access to exclusive ad-free versions of our newest episodes, including early ad-only versions of the show, coming soon, coming in full-bird pricing and full-thrope pricing, available on the next week, starting Wednesday, September 19th, only on Wednesday, July 25th, exclusively on Prime Video, only in the second week, available worldwide, full-trim, available only on VGA and VGA, and only on PODCAST, MURDERS and PGA Travelers, and other places, worldwide, will get full access to the VIP discount, and will get all that access worldwide.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon, and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:07.360 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.380 He is a New York Times best-selling author, and a long-time friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:17.000 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:22.640 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:27.380 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.400 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:40.200 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, indeed, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:47.200 Yesterday, my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief at Slingshot.News,
00:00:53.560 and I shook up the political world by exposing the nefarious plot by some House Republicans,
00:01:03.740 we call them rhinos, to turn over control of the House of Representatives to the Democrats,
00:01:11.560 so that a new speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, can pass a resolution declaring Donald Trump guilty of insurrection.
00:01:20.680 If that were to happen, the U.S. Senate, where Democrats control a majority 51-49, would follow suit.
00:01:31.900 Now, for those who say, well, surely the courts will not let that happen.
00:01:36.320 No, unfortunately, the U.S. Supreme Court, in their Colorado ballot access decision,
00:01:43.520 actually invited the Congress to do this.
00:01:46.400 Now, my co-host, Troy Smith, and I have dug even deeper,
00:01:52.600 and we found out who the nefarious financier of this entire plot is.
00:01:59.240 And we have learned that that same financier, Paul Singer,
00:02:04.780 the vulture capitalist hedge fund manager,
00:02:09.800 is working a similar strategy in the U.S. Senate.
00:02:14.100 Later in the program, we explore the greatest single-child sex trafficking ring in U.S. history
00:02:22.680 prior to the Epstein scandal.
00:02:26.640 This is a scandal, the Franklin scandal,
00:02:30.160 which reached into the highest levels of state government in Nebraska,
00:02:36.500 as well as Washington, D.C.
00:02:39.380 Nick Bryant, probably the finest investigative reporter in the country,
00:02:45.820 and Alicia Owens, who was a victim of the Franklin scandal,
00:02:51.660 who actually served time in jail because of her refusal to recant her accurate testimony
00:02:58.980 about being victimized in the Franklin scandal, join us.
00:03:03.060 So we'll be talking to them later in the program.
00:03:06.340 In the meantime, let me bring on the man of the hour, Troy Smith,
00:03:11.220 the editor-in-chief at Slingshot.news.
00:03:14.940 Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here.
00:03:17.140 And yesterday, I mean, just adding on here, Roger,
00:03:19.660 I feel like we just keep moving down the line here,
00:03:22.260 exposing Paul Singer further and further for what he's doing,
00:03:25.760 not only in the House, but in the Senate as well.
00:03:28.680 Now, as you stated there, Roger, we kind of uncovered
00:03:31.160 that there is a plot going on in the Senate as well as the House of Representatives
00:03:36.100 to influence the amount of Republicans that are going to be available heading into the 2024 election.
00:03:42.460 Can't wait to break that down with you here in the Stone Zone.
00:03:45.500 Yeah, it's really quite incredible.
00:03:47.380 The thing I like about your reporting, which you can see at Slingshot.news,
00:03:52.880 folks, go there and subscribe.
00:03:55.080 It costs nothing, and you will get cutting-edge investigative journalism,
00:03:59.940 as well as a good measure of pop culture, arts, and other great items.
00:04:05.560 Also, you can see it at StoneZone.com.
00:04:09.580 We really are on the cutting edge of this particular issue.
00:04:13.620 Yesterday, Troy really brought the receipts.
00:04:17.940 In other words, we don't just make claims.
00:04:20.360 We back it up with hard evidence that Paul Singer,
00:04:24.360 the globalist vulture capitalist who financed the early campaign of Senator Marco Rubio,
00:04:32.620 probably through the Free Beacon, the neocon news outlet,
00:04:39.620 where I have many friends, by the way, actually were the original generators of the underlying information
00:04:49.160 in the bogus Steele dossier.
00:04:53.100 When that got no traction in the Republican presidential contest in 2016,
00:04:59.860 well, the boys at Fusion GPS recycled it
00:05:03.300 and essentially resold the same information to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:05:08.460 Hillary Clinton's campaign masked the payments for that work,
00:05:13.540 calling it legal research or legal services,
00:05:17.660 when in fact, of course, they were paying for made-up, fabricated dirt against Donald Trump.
00:05:24.340 That wouldn't be so serious, other than the fact that Barack Obama, Joe Biden,
00:05:29.540 the FBI, and the CIA, as well as the Justice Department,
00:05:33.960 used what they knew was fabricated evidence to justify their illicit and illegal attempt
00:05:41.900 to remove President Donald Trump in what is now known in the Russian collusion hoax.
00:05:48.200 So Singer is a bad guy.
00:05:50.480 We've established that.
00:05:52.180 Yesterday we showed you a long video, which Tucker Carlson totally exposed him.
00:05:58.080 But, Troy, tell us the latest, and then I want to focus on who are the next likely suspects.
00:06:05.680 In other words, our lead in the House is so precarious.
00:06:09.460 First, we have to win several upcoming elections.
00:06:12.920 Tell us about that.
00:06:14.440 Well, Roger, as for the runoff schedule we have this year,
00:06:18.760 and I haven't seen many people talking about this.
00:06:20.620 There's been a lot of speculation about this.
00:06:22.220 We have May 21st for the California 20th Congressional District.
00:06:26.880 Now, that's the district that was left vacated by Kevin McCarthy.
00:06:30.100 On May 21st, there will be a special election in that district.
00:06:33.100 On June 25th, in Colorado's 4th District, there will be a special election to replace Ken Buck,
00:06:39.260 who retired just last Friday.
00:06:41.680 And on June 11th, there will be a special election in Ohio 6 for Bill Johnson.
00:06:48.300 That's where we are at right now with the special elections, Roger.
00:06:51.540 And it's important to point out that Mike Gallagher, who has also announced that he will be leaving Congress on April 19th,
00:06:57.920 has avoided having a special election by prolonging his exit.
00:07:03.360 He decided that instead of leaving by the second Tuesday in April, he would leave on the 19th,
00:07:08.600 meaning that the Republicans there won't have a chance to replace him,
00:07:12.380 and there won't be a special election completely hampering the Republican majority.
00:07:16.340 And as you stated, Roger, it's a very slim majority, and every seat at this point is consequential.
00:07:23.680 You have to ask the question why Gallagher, who has taken a considerable amount of money from Paul Singer,
00:07:28.760 would vacate his seat prior to the ability to have a special election.
00:07:32.960 It's just unbelievable.
00:07:34.860 Yeah, clearly there had to be some financial inducement in that.
00:07:39.620 Let me try to break down who I think the next suspects in the U.S. House.
00:07:46.560 A hat tip to our friend Gary Frenchy for this over at, what does he call his place?
00:07:53.720 He's on YouTube.
00:07:56.360 I think it's Next News Network.
00:07:58.220 Next News Network.
00:07:59.320 A very good man, does great research.
00:08:01.140 Based on his research, he examined members of Congress, their ages, their pattern of political contributions from, yes,
00:08:11.820 the nefarious Paul Singer, and their likelihood of throwing in the towel.
00:08:19.200 Here are his nominees.
00:08:21.080 Ken Calvert of the 42nd District of California, first elected in 1992, born in 1953.
00:08:29.740 That makes him 71 years old, has taken $5,800 from Mr. Singer.
00:08:36.760 Joe Wilson of California, pardon me, Joe Wilson of South Carolina's 2nd District, first elected in 2001 in a special election.
00:08:47.560 He's 77 years old.
00:08:50.900 We could find no connection to Singer, but his age gives us some suspicion.
00:08:57.560 I hope we're wrong about that, Mr. Wilson.
00:09:01.180 Mike Rogers, Republican of Alabama, first elected in 2002.
00:09:07.500 He is 66 years old.
00:09:09.900 Once again, Mike Rogers has taken $5,800 from Paul Singer.
00:09:15.920 Virginia Fox, who you may remember, announced her retirement, then recanted her retirement, decided to run again.
00:09:23.520 She will be 81.
00:09:25.460 One, she also took $5,800, the max from a vulture capitalist, Paul Singer.
00:09:34.480 Now, all four members have served a substantial and considerable amount of time.
00:09:41.000 Calvert is the longest serving of the group, 32 years in Congress.
00:09:47.340 Fox is the oldest at 81 years old, followed by Wilson at 71, Calvert at 77, Calvert at 71, and Rogers at 66.
00:10:01.200 When you cross-reference these members with where their financing is coming, these, in my opinion, are potentially, potentially the next candidates who will be pressured to throw in the towel.
00:10:16.100 Now, how does this work?
00:10:18.120 Well, for example, Mike Gallagher got an extremely lucrative corporate offer that was far more attractive than being a member of Congress.
00:10:29.160 But it alludes me, he could have resigned in such a way that there would have been an immediate special election in which a Republican could have been counted on to fill that seat.
00:10:41.720 Instead, he has delayed his resignation so that the seat is vacated at a time that it will remain vacant through November.
00:10:51.280 That, of course, changes the calculus on how many votes it takes to hold the majority.
00:10:58.960 We are going to dig into the Senate side of this for a few minutes when we come back from this commercial break.
00:11:07.060 And then Nick Bryan, investigative journalist, author of The Franklin Scandal, one of the most important books regarding child sex trafficking in recent history.
00:11:18.620 And Alicia Owens, who was actually a sex trafficking victim in that horrific case, will join us to talk about what was the largest child sex trafficking scandal prior to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:11:35.200 The mainstream media and the establishment has gone to great lengths to attempt to debunk this scandal.
00:11:42.860 We're going to break it down for you later in the Stone Zone.
00:11:45.960 Now we go to a commercial break because, well, folks, we've got to keep the lights on here at the Stone Zone.
00:11:52.300 And we ask you to patronize our advertisers.
00:12:01.660 We've learned through the pandemic we can never be caught unprepared again.
00:12:06.360 And so many Americans, when COVID hit, they had nothing in the house.
00:12:10.220 Stores were shut down and doctors' offices were shut down.
00:12:14.080 And even if doctors prescribed drugs, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, pharmacists wouldn't fill the prescriptions.
00:12:21.080 That was a nightmare.
00:12:22.780 Now the situation is much worse.
00:12:24.900 We have these horrible supply chain problems.
00:12:28.100 In our emergency medical kit at the wellness company, we have eight prescription drugs that are all potentially life-saving.
00:12:37.580 Most people who died with COVID, they died in the hospital because they didn't receive early treatment.
00:12:43.180 Every American family should have one of these.
00:12:53.840 I can tell you the wellness company kit is the answer.
00:12:57.740 MelissaHouseBG.com
00:13:04.520 Bella Grace Elixir
00:13:07.340 She called me today.
00:13:10.600 And she told me something.
00:13:12.300 And I said, you have got to tell the audience this.
00:13:14.380 They need to hear this.
00:13:15.560 Because it's really good news for those of you that, well, are taking Bella Grace.
00:13:19.480 Well, I went to my hairdresser and I had not told her about this product that I've been taking.
00:13:24.320 When she was blow-drying my hair, she said, you, I just noticed when I was parting your hair and fixing it that you have a bunch of new hair growth.
00:13:31.900 I've been going to this lady for probably 13 years and she's never said that to me.
00:13:37.340 And I had noticed it, but for the fact that she, the fact that she noticed it was, I had to call Bran right away and tell him.
00:13:43.200 She just said, you've never had this like this.
00:13:44.880 And it's growing and you just have all these baby hairs growing in and they're kind of curly.
00:13:49.260 And so I just told her that what I was taking and she was amazed.
00:13:53.300 So Bella Grace Elixir.
00:13:57.080 MelissaHouseBG.com
00:13:58.480 And you are on the Stone Zone.
00:14:05.520 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith at Slingshot.News.
00:14:11.140 If you're not subscribing to Slingshot.News, well, let me highly, highly recommend it.
00:14:18.440 We are the first, I think, to uncover the nefarious plot, really directed by Kevin McCarthy and financed by vulture capitalist Paul Singer,
00:14:28.980 to cede control of the House to the Democrats, elect Hakeem Jeffries, the new speaker, and then very quickly pass legislation, actually a resolution,
00:14:43.800 already drafted and introduced by the odious criminal, Jamie Raskin.
00:14:49.360 If you do a little research on Jamie, he and his judge wife made millions in stock trades that they just, I don't know,
00:14:56.660 inadvertently they just forgot to report.
00:14:59.300 You know, it's no big deal because he's a Democrat.
00:15:02.760 But, Troy, you have tracked similar activity in the U.S. Senate pertaining to Lisa Murkowski.
00:15:12.500 Now, for those who aren't familiar with Lisa Murkowski, she is, her father was a U.S. Senator.
00:15:19.020 She doesn't live in Alaska.
00:15:21.840 She doesn't own a home in Alaska.
00:15:23.400 She actually very rarely goes to Alaska.
00:15:26.940 She lives in Washington, D.C.
00:15:29.220 She is the epitome of a swamp creature.
00:15:32.980 She's announced that she won't support Donald Trump for re-election if he's the nominee.
00:15:37.540 In fact, she would probably vote the party.
00:15:40.320 Hey, Lisa, don't let the door smack you on the ass on the way out.
00:15:45.720 In no way are you a Republican.
00:15:48.560 If Alaska didn't have this Farkakta ranked choice voting system, she wouldn't even be a U.S. Senator.
00:15:56.980 But tell us about that, Troy.
00:15:59.920 Well, Roger, I saw a clip just a couple of days ago.
00:16:02.620 We have the clip here.
00:16:03.400 We're going to run it.
00:16:04.760 Murkowski was confronted by a CNN reporter in the Capitol.
00:16:09.440 And she was asked about becoming independent.
00:16:13.440 Now, people need to remember at home, Murkowski endorsed Nikki Haley along with Susan Collins.
00:16:18.840 And those two, Collins and Murkowski, really lead the anti-Trump section of the Senate.
00:16:26.260 And it's important to remember that because these people are really, you know, along with the retirements in the House, Roger,
00:16:31.980 we have many Republican senators who are putting the party at a disadvantage in the Senate by talking about possibly leaving.
00:16:38.140 So let's roll the clip of Murkowski talking to CNN at the Capitol about possibly being an independent.
00:16:43.380 I just regret that our party is seemingly becoming a party of Donald Trump.
00:16:50.440 So now the party has become the party of America first.
00:16:58.440 It's become the party of a sound and robust economy.
00:17:02.520 It's become the party of peace.
00:17:05.200 Lisa Murkowski loves these very expensive foreign incursions costing us American blood and treasure.
00:17:11.540 But where our inherent national interests are not clear, who knows what it is about the Trump administration that Lisa Murkowski didn't like.
00:17:20.320 Perhaps it was the lowest gasoline prices in recent history or the lowest rate of inflation in recent history.
00:17:28.340 Or perhaps it was the lowest levels of unemployment among all Americans, black Americans, white Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, young Americans, old Americans, urban Americans, rural Americans.
00:17:44.880 Or perhaps what she really objects to is the fact that Trump started no new foreign wars.
00:17:50.640 So there were no huge contracts for her defense contractor donors.
00:17:55.380 Who knows what it is that Lisa Murkowski, who does not live in Alaska but represents it in the U.S. Senate, didn't like about the Trump years.
00:18:06.720 Tell us very quickly before we go to our guests, what is the Singer-Murkowski connection?
00:18:14.440 Well, Singer has been donated to Murkowski-Roger since 2004, and it's documented all on Slingshot News where people can go check that out.
00:18:21.160 And by the time this is airing, Roger, we're going to be putting out another article on Singer and his attacks on Republicans that were endorsed by President Trump in the 2024 Republican primaries.
00:18:32.380 Now, he did this through several different PACs that we're going to document on Slingshot News, but I would encourage everybody to go to slingshot.news, check out that latest article because we're going to be running that today by the time you're seeing this.
00:18:43.620 It's a fantastic dive into how Trump-endorsed candidates are finding themselves at the end of millions of dollars against them in advertising and things of that nature from conservative PACs, conservative PACs that are really doing the bidding of the GOP establishment, Roger.
00:19:02.620 The knives are all coming out, and whether it's the Senate with Murkowski, who's funded by Singer, Susan Collins, who's funded by Singer, now saying they may leave the GOP, or the mass retirement in the House of Representatives, there is a concerted effort by the GOP establishment, funded by Paul Singer, directed by Kevin McCarthy, to make sure that Trump is not on the ballot in 2024.
00:19:25.800 It is the crime of the century that they are setting up here.
00:19:28.600 All right, Troy, I thank you very much for your report.
00:19:33.980 I know you have some bombshell reports in the works.
00:19:38.240 You've really developed this story.
00:19:40.120 Glad to see many people, such as Steve Bannon, reposting your work.
00:19:46.300 We've been proud to repost it ourselves with attribution at the Stone Zone.
00:19:51.260 Please, folks, do us a great favor.
00:19:54.180 Go to slingshot.news and subscribe.
00:19:56.600 Go to thestonezone.com and subscribe.
00:20:01.300 It's absolutely free in both places, and you will be getting cutting-edge political information and news every single day.
00:20:10.920 So, Troy, we may see you later in the program.
00:20:14.680 Thank you for joining us with that fantastic breakdown.
00:20:18.880 Always an honor, Roger.
00:20:19.920 Always an honor.
00:20:20.520 Prior to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, the Franklin scandal was probably the biggest child sex-trapping scandal in American history.
00:20:33.480 And like the Epstein scandal, it touched the ruling elite, both in the state of Nebraska and allegedly in Washington, D.C.
00:20:45.100 Now, ironically, the investigative reporter, who really did the first and most important work in terms of exposing Jeffrey Epstein, then writing for Gawker,
00:20:58.760 the first man who uncovered Epstein's little black book, which included the home and private phone numbers for many A-list celebrities and politicians, athletes and others.
00:21:15.020 It was also Nick Bryan, who's going to join us today, who first uncovered the FAA logs to give us some idea who the power elite were that Jeffrey Epstein was entertaining on his famous island.
00:21:33.460 But before he exposed the Franklin scandal, Nick Bryan exposed the Franklin scandal, which emanates out of the state of Nebraska.
00:21:48.540 It is a horrific tale that the establishment media and some in the government have gone to enormous lengths to try to debunk.
00:21:58.060 But we ask our listeners and viewers to decide for themselves, based not only on what they hear today, but I would urge you, and we'll show you how, to buy Nick's terrific book on the Franklin scandal.
00:22:13.320 Joining us now, Nick Bryan, investigative journalist and author, by the way, of a great new book on Watergate, The Truth About Watergate.
00:22:22.660 We interviewed him last week on that book.
00:22:25.240 That's not what we're here to do today, but I recommend that to you also.
00:22:29.800 And Alicia Owens, who was a victim herself of the, in the Franklin scandal, and has a terrifying tale to tell us today.
00:22:40.540 Nick Bryan and Alicia, welcome to The Stone Zone.
00:22:46.500 Thank you.
00:22:47.620 Roger.
00:22:48.840 And I like the fedora.
00:22:50.760 Thank you very much.
00:22:51.920 It's one of those days, it's a bad hair day, what can I say?
00:22:57.320 Either that or it's a homage to Matt Drudge, I'm not sure which.
00:23:01.980 So I appreciate your joining us.
00:23:04.900 Nick, I'm going to start with you to kind of set the table.
00:23:08.840 Reading from Wikipedia, which is a source of disinformation, I can tell you by looking at my own profile, virtually nothing they say in the profile is true.
00:23:19.460 But I'm going to let you respond to this.
00:23:21.680 The Franklin child prostitution ring allegations began in June in 1988 in Omaha, Nebraska, when multiple Nebraska political and business figures were accused of involvement in a child sex trafficking ring.
00:23:37.300 The allegations attracted significant public and political interest until the late 1990s, when separate state and federal grand juries concluded that the allegations were unfounded in the ring was a craftily, pardon me, a carefully crafted hoax.
00:23:55.700 Now, you've written a very thick book that I think debunks all of that.
00:24:01.820 So I'm going to let you tell us what was the Franklin scandal?
00:24:05.660 What happened here?
00:24:07.440 And then we'll talk to Alicia about her particularly horrific experience.
00:24:11.700 That Wikipedia entry on the Franklin scandal is just utter and a number of people have tried to change that page and it's been locked down by some very unsavory, perfidious, quote unquote, editors.
00:24:33.500 And I've even called Jimmy Wales to try to get him to intervene.
00:24:39.580 But Jimmy didn't seem to be too enthusiastic about fixing that page.
00:24:44.340 So that's been problematic because unfortunately, a lot of people think that Wikipedia is a fountainhead of truth.
00:24:52.580 And when you get into anything that's political and controversial, there's going to be a certain spin in Wikipedia.
00:25:03.200 That's that's just the way it is.
00:25:04.920 And that spin would be right up there like The New York Times.
00:25:09.480 Same same type of a spin.
00:25:12.460 But the Franklin scandal is kind of a carbon copy of what we're seeing with Epstein.
00:25:17.580 And children were flown coast to coast by two pimps.
00:25:24.520 One was Lawrence E. King of Omaha and one was Craig Spence of Washington, D.C.
00:25:30.420 And it got outed.
00:25:34.460 A number of people in social services tried to out this network, but they were ignored by federal and state law enforcement.
00:25:40.700 And finally, Lawrence E. King, one of the pimps running this pedophile network, he embezzled $40 million from the credit Franklin, the credit, the credit, the credit, the same as a loan, Franklin.
00:26:00.300 The Franklin Community Federal Credit Union.
00:26:01.640 I guess that neuron just didn't pop quite right.
00:26:06.860 But anyway, so he embezzled $40 million from that credit union.
00:26:12.540 And ultimately, a Senate subcommittee was formed to look into it because that credit union hadn't been audited in 40 years.
00:26:22.300 And when the Senate subcommittee formed, the social services people that had complained to state and federal law enforcement told the senators, hey, King is bringing an interstate pedophile network.
00:26:37.840 So that's where it ultimately got outed.
00:26:41.600 But it was there were three grand juries.
00:26:44.820 It was a huge network.
00:26:45.820 Like, Epstein's network was around for about 25 years.
00:26:50.420 And I think the Franklin network was around for, well, 10 to 12 years.
00:26:56.440 And it destroyed many children.
00:27:00.600 It was a bigger network.
00:27:02.140 I believe it was a bigger network than Epstein's.
00:27:05.680 But grand juries were used to cover it up.
00:27:07.740 And I don't know if your viewers, listeners are familiar with grand juries, but a special prosecutor is chosen to prosecute a grand jury.
00:27:17.640 And grand jurors are just people that have shown up for jury duty.
00:27:21.080 And the special prosecutor is responsible for showing them evidence and calling witnesses.
00:27:26.520 And special prosecutors have so much power over grand jurors.
00:27:31.220 A New York Supreme Court justice once said that special prosecutors could get grand jurors to indict a ham sandwich.
00:27:40.520 So there were two grand juries in Nebraska were very corrupt.
00:27:46.360 One was by Samuel Van Pelt and one was by Thomas Tolkien.
00:27:51.080 And they exonerated all the perpetrators, even though there was a tremendous amount of evidence to show that these kids had been abused.
00:27:59.460 And instead of indicting the perpetrators, they indicted, these grand juries indicted the victims.
00:28:09.180 And one of the victims is with us, Alicia Owen.
00:28:12.260 She was indicted on a counts of perjury from a state grand jury.
00:28:16.540 And then the federal grand jury indicted her on a counts of perjury.
00:28:20.480 And she was looking at 200 years in prison and she refused to recant her abuse.
00:28:26.660 And it was important that, and her trial was unbelievably corrupt, and I documented in the Franklin scandal, it was important for her to be found guilty so those grand juries could be sanctified and say that not a single child was abused.
00:28:42.280 Because this network was operational in Washington, D.C., and there was a house in Washington, D.C. that was owned by Craig Spence, where the rich and the powerful would be compromised.
00:28:53.820 Spence was in CIS.
00:28:55.100 And when you get into, like, the nuts and bolts of the Franklin scandal, it's, as I said earlier, it's like a carbon copy of the Epstein scandal.
00:29:04.940 So the basic allegations centered on Lawrence E. King Jr., who was a rising force, a rising figure in the Republican Party, seemed to have close relationships with the George H.W. Bush presidency.
00:29:24.980 He was certainly a rising figure in the Republican Party in Omaha.
00:29:29.300 Somehow, he got a backdoor to Boys Town, probably the most famous orphanage in the country.
00:29:38.060 And at some point, the Nebraska State Senate began an investigation into the allegations.
00:29:46.380 That investigation, based on my memory and brief research, was headed by two state senators, Lauren Schmidt and Ernie Chambers.
00:29:56.920 But ultimately, the private investigator, Gary Caradoni, hired by the Franklin Committee to investigate the allegations, died in a highly suspicious plane crash with his son.
00:30:12.520 And this is an epic story.
00:30:17.380 I think you make the case in your book.
00:30:19.740 We're going to go to a quick commercial break here.
00:30:21.880 But then I want to bring Alicia on to tell us what happened to her, what she saw, what she experienced, and her horrific experience in incarceration, but also her heroic heroism, her courage in refusing to back off the truth.
00:30:42.780 This is The Roger Stone.
00:30:44.080 We're here with author Nick Bryant and Alicia Owens.
00:30:47.440 And we will be right back.
00:30:49.320 We'll be right back.
00:31:19.320 There's a shortage due to the rising demand by military, solar, electric cars, and computers, all of which depend on silver.
00:31:26.740 But right now, silver is priced to sell, according to worldwide experts.
00:31:30.900 Now, to help you get started, Swiss America is offering beautiful United States Walking Liberty half dollars, issued by the U.S. Mint from 1916 to 1947, and minted in 90% pure silver for a special introductory price.
00:31:45.460 Limit of 250 per customer while supplies last.
00:31:48.460 So call the number on your screen or visit SwissAmerica.com.
00:31:52.800 Joining me at the news desk now is Rebecca Walzer of WalzerWealth.com.
00:32:00.720 She has been a regular guest on my TV show, Brennan House Live, for a long time.
00:32:05.740 She's not just an economics expert, but she's an attorney.
00:32:09.500 Rebecca, you have a large firm.
00:32:11.640 How many people work for your firm?
00:32:12.860 Just about 30, yes.
00:32:14.140 30, and tell me, how can people prepare for what's coming with the end of the dollar as we know it?
00:32:20.560 The end of the fiat system as we know it globally.
00:32:22.700 We are moving to hard asset-backed currencies again.
00:32:25.600 Thank the Lord, because fiat is where we get into all the problems.
00:32:28.960 When you have debt-based currency, you have debt-based problems.
00:32:32.400 And the United States, unfortunately, since 2020, has not stopped spinning at pandemic levels.
00:32:37.440 This is systemic, and it is unsustainable, and it is coming to an end, especially with the addition of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to the BRICS nations.
00:32:45.780 This is what controls our petrodollar.
00:32:47.620 This is the threat immediately in 2024.
00:32:50.280 For more information, WalzerWealth.com.
00:32:52.500 WalzerWealth.com.
00:32:53.720 She is not your traditional financial planner.
00:32:56.200 Find out why at WalzerWealth.com.
00:33:07.440 Welcome back, folks.
00:33:11.960 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone, and this is The Stone Zone.
00:33:16.740 We are interviewing investigative reporter and author Nick Bryant.
00:33:22.900 With him, he has Alicia Owen, who was one of the victims in the Franklin scandal.
00:33:31.200 Let me just pick up where we left off.
00:33:33.300 Nick, do you suspect foul play in the death of Gary Caridoni, who was charged by the state Senate in investigating the Franklin scandal?
00:33:45.720 I definitely do.
00:33:48.280 He flew to Chicago, and he acquired pictures of the pedophile parties.
00:33:57.000 I mean, in the Franklin scandal, I've got five corroborations on that.
00:34:00.680 And he was going to—if he made it back to Nebraska, he was going to break this wide open.
00:34:07.440 And there was no way that that rogue element of intelligence that does this type of stuff was going to let him break it open.
00:34:16.120 Because if the dominoes had started to fall in Nebraska, they would have fallen all the way to Washington, D.C.
00:34:22.920 And there was just no way that that was going to happen.
00:34:27.340 As soon as Gary Caridori got those pictures, he was a marked man.
00:34:32.080 And I also want to thank you for helping me to pronounce credit union.
00:34:37.320 Just one of those days.
00:34:39.360 That's perfectly all right.
00:34:40.520 Who are some of the elites who allegedly received children for abuse?
00:34:53.040 Well, when you get into that, it's difficult because the kids that were involved really didn't know who was molesting them.
00:35:07.920 And George Herbert Walker Bush, his name came up once by Ulysses Washington.
00:35:16.940 She said that he gleaned a boy from a pedophile party in Chicago.
00:35:22.640 But that's the only source I have on him.
00:35:27.060 But I think that there are other – there's obviously a lot of powerful people in Washington, D.C.
00:35:34.920 The amount of power that was deployed to cover up the Franklin network really shows that it went to the upper reaches of power.
00:35:48.200 Sure. And the network was covered up – it's interesting.
00:35:52.920 Richard Thornburg was the attorney general at that point, and he began the cover up.
00:35:59.960 But William Barr ultimately put the finishing touches on the cover up, and William Barr was the same attorney general that covered up the Epstein scandal.
00:36:09.680 Very good point.
00:36:12.160 All right, Alicia, you've been sitting there patiently, and we appreciate it.
00:36:16.020 So now you're up.
00:36:18.360 Tell us about your experience.
00:36:20.740 Karna, if you can, tell us from the beginning what happened to you.
00:36:25.620 Sure.
00:36:26.500 I would – one of the things that I would like to make clear,
00:36:30.900 my initial – what actually brought me to the Nebraska State Legislative Committee,
00:36:43.740 that story happens to every victim of trafficking.
00:36:52.420 So that part is not necessarily unique or special in any way.
00:37:00.900 Where my story really becomes unique and, in my opinion, different.
00:37:10.940 And what people really need to know is the actions taken after I came forward.
00:37:21.040 It's highly unusual.
00:37:23.000 Actually, I think my sentence for perjury is probably, I think, the longest sentence in the history of the United States.
00:37:34.480 And I also had the – I believe the longest criminal trial in the history of Nebraska.
00:37:44.840 Because, I mean, we fought.
00:37:47.480 You know, they called it a carefully crafted hoax, but they never – they never said who crafted it.
00:37:55.440 And I don't know where they think we got names from, the names that we did have.
00:38:00.480 You know, picked them out of the phone book.
00:38:01.940 I don't know.
00:38:02.400 And the evidence was there.
00:38:06.440 And when Nick was talking about grand juries, and one of the reasons why grand juries are used as a tool to suppress victims is the prosecutor has complete latitude.
00:38:20.520 They can show whatever evidence they want to show.
00:38:24.220 And it is not a balanced – it is strictly up to the prosecutor to present whatever they want to present.
00:38:35.280 And one of the things that we were able to show is they – Gary, and his name is Gary Caridori.
00:38:42.400 Gary had done – and you can find them on YouTube.
00:38:45.920 Gary, he had made videotapes of all of the various witnesses and their statements.
00:38:53.840 And one of the things that we were able to prove is that the – for purposes of the grand jury, they edited all of those videotapes to take out any commonalities.
00:39:08.340 So, if a victim said this happened and it was here and it was during this time, they cut those things out.
00:39:17.320 So, they only included – so, the grand juries only saw videotapes of differing stories.
00:39:23.900 And we were able to prove that here's the original videotape and here's what the grand jury saw.
00:39:29.800 So, it was not just a happenstance that these things happened.
00:39:39.800 I mean, it was a concerted effort on the part of law enforcement and the judiciary to cover these things up.
00:39:49.920 And once all the victims came forward, including myself, you wouldn't believe the media just pounded us.
00:40:03.940 I mean, it was unreal.
00:40:07.040 And I'm sure that, Roger, you understand how the barrage of character assassination, be it truth, lies, or whatever, they are going to twist and turn it to say whatever they want to execute their means.
00:40:25.500 And so, I mean, from the get-go – and I kind of knew that that was going to happen – the media basically called us liars.
00:40:40.040 Well, they didn't basically.
00:40:41.140 They did call us liars.
00:40:42.900 The judiciary – we could have said the sky was blue and they would have said, you're lying.
00:40:49.580 And from there, and what they were able to do in secret, because in a grand jury, they're not supposed to – it's supposed to be sealed.
00:41:05.220 And my grand jury actually did a grand jury report that read like a bad melodrama novel.
00:41:16.760 And they were actually – the grand jury was actually sued by Senator Chambers, and they had to retract or seal it because it was so glaringly – it was just evil.
00:41:34.220 And the pressure that was put on all of the victims – I mean, it wasn't just Gary Caridori that died.
00:41:41.620 There's actually, I believe, 19 people that were somehow either related or involved that had mysterious deaths.
00:41:53.520 So it's not just the investigator that got blown up 13 minutes after he took off and the FAA says, oh, he must have fallen asleep,
00:42:03.260 which I don't understand how you'd fall asleep 13 minutes after you're flying a plane.
00:42:10.340 And also the location where he blew up is very interesting.
00:42:16.800 But it's also what happened afterwards.
00:42:18.960 It's when you – I was 21 years old, and it really was just – my legal team was Henry Rosenthal and my mom.
00:42:33.700 And we put on quite a fight.
00:42:35.820 I'm sure you understand that.
00:42:37.140 And we had things like – and Roger, I followed your case, and I really – I prayed a lot for you because I know that you had experiences with the FBI and raids and no-knock search warrants and things like that.
00:43:00.980 Well, I had my own experience.
00:43:04.280 I was in prison.
00:43:05.520 I did a little over two years in solitary confinement.
00:43:11.140 And the entire time, I mean, they would – the FBI would show up and say, okay, we can't.
00:43:17.960 And it's like, no, I'm not going to.
00:43:20.480 And the truth is the truth.
00:43:21.820 And, you know, they had pretty much tried everything to get me to say that I was a liar.
00:43:30.260 And when I decided to take the stand, I wasn't going to back down.
00:43:34.720 But there was a point where you'd think if you're in solitary confinement that you're not going to have a no-knock search warrant and the FBI show up and toss your cell.
00:43:46.360 And when I say no-knock search warrant in a prison, I mean they didn't let even the prison know.
00:43:51.920 They showed up at the gates of the prison with their warrant and barged their way in.
00:43:59.560 And I'll tell you, I know that the warden was quite upset that the – I mean, that I think is probably unprecedented.
00:44:07.960 It's also rather – it's also relatively absurd.
00:44:13.420 They don't let you bring anything to prison.
00:44:15.380 They don't let you keep in anything in prison.
00:44:17.740 So what could they possibly find in your cell?
00:44:20.900 You got a four-and-a-half-year sentence for perjury.
00:44:25.380 I think that's probably unheard of.
00:44:27.180 You served two years in solitary confinement.
00:44:30.020 I've had hardened gangsters on the show who tell me that a week in solitary confinement can break a man.
00:44:38.620 When we come back, we're going to get into some of the names because I think the media handling of this and the establishment handling of this entire affair is tied very much to those who were accused.
00:44:56.240 We are here with Nick Bryant, investigative journalist, and Alicia Owen, who was a victim and a woman of enormous courage and fortitude.
00:45:07.820 This is The Roger Stone Show.
00:45:09.500 We'll be right back after this commercial break.
00:45:19.060 Sounds rolling.
00:45:20.320 All three cameras.
00:45:21.280 We're good.
00:45:21.720 And you're speed.
00:45:22.640 We're good.
00:45:52.620 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.
00:45:59.200 He's a brilliant military career serving 33 years.
00:46:02.760 Why was he being so elusive?
00:46:04.000 Mike Clinton pulled the truth and faced life in prison.
00:46:22.620 And you're busy.
00:46:44.400 Thank you.
00:47:14.400 Thank you.
00:47:44.400 Thank you.
00:47:46.400 Thank you.
00:47:48.400 Thank you.
00:47:50.400 Thank you.
00:47:55.400 Breaking news here.
00:47:56.960 Robert F. Kennedy, the independent candidate for president, has announced his vice presidential running mate.
00:48:04.660 She is Nicole Shanahan, whose ex-husband was one of the founders of Google.
00:48:12.500 She has in the past provided financial support for Joe Biden's presidential campaign, as well as that of Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg.
00:48:25.660 She's also a major funder of Soros-backed prosecutor George Gascon in San Francisco.
00:48:36.140 Hardly sounds like an outsider to me.
00:48:38.800 Sorry with that breaking news.
00:48:40.480 Let's go back to you, Alicia.
00:48:43.440 I don't want to put you on the spot, but you were very young.
00:48:47.420 Can you tell us, did you recognize any of the men that you were trafficked to that you, who abused you?
00:48:55.680 Not on a national level.
00:49:01.100 And that's one of the things about Franklin, is Franklin, as opposed to Epstein.
00:49:07.280 Epstein was strictly pretty much girls that we know of.
00:49:11.980 And with Franklin, Franklin was both boys and girls.
00:49:20.200 And my abusers were not necessarily on a national scale.
00:49:28.080 But the people that I was accused of lying about were high up in law enforcement in Nebraska, a well-known media people in Omaha, Nebraska, TV personalities and things like that.
00:49:56.620 So I'm not sure that any of your viewers would recognize any of those names.
00:50:02.840 But there were other victims that did say people like Nick mentioned Ulysses.
00:50:14.480 And there were also victims such as Paul Benassi, who cited other people.
00:50:22.380 But my direct experience was maybe not nationally known people.
00:50:29.480 And one of the reasons why it was so important that I be convicted was, as we know, people that have been through these traumatic experiences,
00:50:42.380 experiences a lot of times will develop either psychological problems or addictions and things like that.
00:50:53.440 But I think that I was the one that was able to tell my story clearly.
00:51:05.160 And also, I think, Roger, I was actually sentenced to nine to 15 years in prison.
00:51:16.040 And so it was not just four and a half years.
00:51:20.640 I mean, I did four and a half years before I got parole, but I was actually sentenced to nine to 15.
00:51:26.080 And so I think that that sentence with, you know, and I still bear the burden of being a convicted felon.
00:51:40.720 You know, they still I've tried many appeals.
00:51:43.740 I've tried for pardons and they still consider me a liar.
00:51:51.100 And even after Epstein, it's very interesting because even after Epstein, people all of a sudden realized, well, hey, you know,
00:52:02.020 because when when I was going through what I went through, people would say, oh, well, that person would never, ever do that.
00:52:07.940 They have a career.
00:52:09.520 They are wealthy.
00:52:12.480 They could get whatever they want and they would never jeopardize that.
00:52:16.680 So I am I'm not really in a position to be able to, you know, I guess what I could say is I gave my testimony.
00:52:39.960 I stand by my testimony and it's all all there.
00:52:43.600 You can read the charges, read the names, and that's, in my opinion, people that know the truth, they know the truth.
00:52:56.380 And I think it's more important that we focus on how our government is covering this up.
00:53:06.240 You know, naming names from the past right now is not going to right any wrongs.
00:53:14.840 I think we need to focus on what our government.
00:53:17.760 I understand what you're saying.
00:53:18.880 Look, no one has experienced the one sided and unfair nature of the grand jury system as I have.
00:53:25.760 My lawyers gave the grand jury, gave the prosecutors more than sufficient evidence to demonstrate that my source regarding the WikiLeaks disclosures was indeed a man in New York, Randy Credico, that he indeed did tell me in writing that his information came from a lawyer who worked for Julian Assange.
00:53:46.880 By the way, that information was extraordinarily general.
00:53:50.220 Assange has the goods on Hillary and he's going to drop them in October.
00:53:53.360 Assange said that himself in multiple interviews.
00:53:56.660 It's not like it was a secret, but they charged me with lying to cover that up.
00:54:02.300 Now, I want to be very clear in my trial.
00:54:04.460 They never produced any evidence of Russian collusion.
00:54:07.100 They never produced any evidence of actual collaboration with WikiLeaks.
00:54:12.860 I had no motive to lie.
00:54:14.680 So I've been where you are.
00:54:16.920 And the grand jury system is broken.
00:54:18.740 They don't they don't show exculpatory information to a grand jury.
00:54:23.660 You're not allowed to make a presentation.
00:54:25.940 You're not allowed to rebut what is said to you.
00:54:29.040 So you've been through the meat grinder in the time we have left.
00:54:33.080 Let's talk about Epstein Justice.
00:54:35.540 This is a great organization in which you and Nick are involved to get justice for the Epstein victims.
00:54:43.540 Nick, tell us about that and where people can go to contribute.
00:54:50.280 I was so disgusted writing the Franklin scandal because in that situation, the government, when you cover up a crime, you're aiding and abetting that crime.
00:55:00.740 And with the Franklin scandal, the government aided and abetted child trafficking.
00:55:05.540 And now with the Epstein scandal, the government is aiding and abetting child trafficking.
00:55:11.440 And there's a lot of things that the government should do.
00:55:14.020 And there's a lot of things that the government shouldn't do.
00:55:16.280 And the government definitely shouldn't aid and abet child trafficking.
00:55:21.220 We have to fix that.
00:55:23.160 And Epstein Justice, you can go to our website, EpsteinJustice.com.
00:55:27.980 And we're an organization that's dedicated.
00:55:31.960 We want a commission.
00:55:33.400 And we want two things from that commission.
00:55:36.720 We want the alleged perpetrators to be prosecuted.
00:55:42.480 And we want the government to tell us why it is covering up child trafficking.
00:55:48.300 Those are the two simple things that we want.
00:55:50.300 Now, granted, it's going to take a lot of work to get those two things, but we are confident that we will get there.
00:55:58.860 And I've just seen too many kids trafficked with impunity, and it really bothers me.
00:56:06.160 And at this point, Americans really have to say no more.
00:56:10.360 Our government cannot participate anymore.
00:56:12.400 And I also believe that if you burrow into Epstein deep enough, you will come across a cesspool that is governing us.
00:56:24.060 13 percent or 17 percent of Americans, only 70 percent of Americans, think that the Congress is doing a good job.
00:56:33.220 So 83 percent of Americans don't think that the Congress is working in their best interests.
00:56:39.120 And I believe that a number of them are compromised.
00:56:42.280 And there was a House of Representatives, Tim Burchett.
00:56:47.780 He came out just in December and said, my colleagues are being compromised.
00:56:52.740 So I was stunned that he made that disclosure because I've been saying it for years.
00:56:57.460 So with Epsteinjustice.com, we want to make sure that kids are no longer trafficked with impunity and that the government no longer covers up child trafficking.
00:57:11.340 Alicia, we have about a minute.
00:57:13.980 Do you want to add your two cents on Epstein Justice?
00:57:17.580 I am really excited about Epstein Justice.
00:57:20.960 It gives us an opportunity to stop what the cover up that that is going on.
00:57:29.260 Also, to let your audience know we are putting out a newsletter.
00:57:35.080 It should be out, I think, within the week where we're giving updates because this cover up is still going on.
00:57:42.040 I mean, people don't realize.
00:57:43.540 Do you realize that Maxwell, the only person that was convicted out of the Epstein, she's already in an honor dorm in the prison system?
00:57:57.660 You know, she's I mean, she's trying to get out of prison and have everything just covered up and says that Epstein's immunity agreement should cover her.
00:58:10.000 And she should have never been charged for child trafficking.
00:58:13.240 So this is still going on and it needs to stop.
00:58:17.180 This is something that the American people should be able to say no more.
00:58:21.920 We're not going to allow it.
00:58:25.120 All right.
00:58:25.820 We have to unfortunately we have to end it there.
00:58:28.640 Unfortunately, but I want to thank Nick Bryant.
00:58:31.440 Sorry to cut you off there, Alicia, but we're out of time.
00:58:33.880 Please go to Epstein Justice dot com Epstein Justice dot com.
00:58:38.280 They're doing important work to get justice for the Epstein victims.
00:58:44.740 I want to remind you again to subscribe to us at Stone Zone dot com.
00:58:49.640 You can watch us every day at Patriot dot TV.
00:58:52.700 You can also see us by following us at Rumble dot com slash Roger Stone.
00:58:59.500 Thank you, Nick Bryant and Alicia Owen for joining us today.
00:59:03.240 Until tomorrow, I'm Roger Stone.
00:59:05.600 This has been the Stone Zone.
00:59:06.880 So God bless you and Godspeed.
00:59:09.860 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people
00:59:16.920 love him.
00:59:18.480 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
00:59:20.940 Roger Stone.
00:59:22.000 Where's Roger Stone?
00:59:23.100 He's a good news.
00:59:24.640 He's brilliant.
00:59:26.800 He's a tough guy.
00:59:28.960 He'sgeoning over him.
00:59:29.780 All those unbelievable things.
00:59:32.120 He's not har.'"
00:59:32.540 He's a tough guy.
00:59:35.520 He's a tough guy.
00:59:36.700 He'll be Terminal.
00:59:38.660 The Stan find here in this movie weeps weeps weeps weeps.
00:59:40.860 But we've abandoned weeps.
00:59:47.500 Serum.