The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 01-12-26

00:00:00.000 Every week, the Payne family cuts straight to the real financial story.

00:00:04.460 The one question, Bob, everyone's asking is, are we in an artificial intelligence bubble?

00:00:10.080 You've been through boom and busts. What do you think?

00:00:12.860 No hype, no myths, just what actually matters to your money.

00:00:17.440 Does feel very similar to what we experienced in the 90s. Where are we,

00:00:21.460 though? Are we in 1995, 1997, 1999?

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00:00:36.740 I just got a new piece of evidence here. Evidence. This is evidence.

00:00:42.100 And it looks like new videotape.

00:00:45.260 And from another perspective, from, okay, you've seen this thing, the shooting in Minneapolis, right?

00:00:50.780 We know, I hope you know.

00:00:53.540 Look, at the very least, you should know.

00:00:55.700 And anybody who went to common sense school, anyone who can use their eyes,

00:01:02.140 can see that that vehicle was accelerating in his direction.

00:01:06.920 Let's say general direction.

00:01:08.780 A four-ton vehicle coming at you.

00:01:11.080 I'm sorry, a two-ton. It was 4,000 pounds.

00:01:13.340 A two-ton vehicle coming at you is a deadly threat.

00:01:16.700 And one of his options, when he's a deadly threat, is to use deadly force in return.

00:01:24.660 And actually, do me a favor.

00:01:26.060 The White House spokesperson is right now.

00:01:28.500 I want to catch this on Fox.

00:01:30.120 She was about to do a press conference.

00:01:31.460 Well, let's see if we can get the gist of it right here.

00:01:33.120 ...over with her vehicle and was using that vehicle as a weapon, which justifies domestic terrorism.

00:01:40.360 And unfortunately, we are seeing these instances play out in American communities across the country,

00:01:45.320 where you have these organized, paid antagonists who are part of these groups that are actively,

00:01:51.340 unlawfully impeding lawful law enforcement operations.

00:01:57.300 They are harassing and targeting ICE agents, trying to make it impossible, again, for them to carry out their duties.

00:02:04.200 That's what was happening in this case.

00:02:06.080 That officer used his training.

00:02:08.240 I understand that he's been on the force and he's been protecting American communities for many, many years.

00:02:13.220 He's an experienced and brave individual who, unfortunately, had to make a very tough decision

00:02:18.400 and was put in that position by these paid agitators who have been doing this all over the country.

00:02:23.760 All right. Caroline Levitt, I like it.

00:02:25.760 And POTUS is about to talk economy.

00:02:28.980 Oh, he's back at that thing in Detroit, I believe.

00:02:33.920 Colin Powell? No, not Colin Powell.

00:02:35.880 Jerome Powell is the Fed chair, right? 1.00

00:02:38.860 An annoying guy and a political animal, a political bastard. 0.98

00:02:43.920 You know, he was messing with the interest rates in October of 24. 0.99

00:02:47.820 He lowered them.

00:02:49.140 I forgot. Was it 25 index points or something like that?

00:02:52.400 Point, point, point, point, point.

00:02:53.540 And he did some, he signaled to the economy.

00:02:58.200 He did something very, that would jumpstart the economy just in time for the election.

00:03:04.440 And as he claims, he's not political, this, that, and the other thing.

00:03:07.640 No, he absolutely is bad guy.

00:03:09.680 All right. I want to go to this new video.

00:03:11.060 I'll tell you what we see here.

00:03:13.080 It's taken, excuse me, from one of the houses.

00:03:15.820 Well, you know how the SUV was pointing in one direction?

00:03:19.160 This is in the opposite.

00:03:20.720 This is on the near side of the street.

00:03:23.100 This is on the, if you're, if you get out of that car and you walk backward, all right,

00:03:28.760 and you walk to a house and then maybe you walk down one, one house, it's taken from the second

00:03:34.320 floor porch of one of those houses.

00:03:36.500 All right.

00:03:37.040 Now the sound may not be all that.

00:03:39.980 Okay.

00:03:40.360 But the imagery might be very, very important.

00:03:43.700 So I want to make sure we're doing this together so I can see it and you will run it.

00:03:47.640 And I'll tell you what I'm seeing.

00:03:48.720 Okay.

00:03:48.920 This is the first time.

00:03:50.440 And they say that this is potentially very significant.

00:03:54.200 Okay.

00:03:54.520 Warning, distressing content.

00:03:55.960 Don't worry about that.

00:03:57.520 Okay.

00:03:57.840 Carlos, do it with me.

00:03:58.780 Three, two, one, go.

00:04:02.520 Just a bunch of cars on the street.

00:04:04.960 Down the block.

00:04:07.480 A couple of guys on the street.

00:04:09.060 Not much is going on.

00:04:14.540 Nastiness. 0.88

00:04:15.380 Nasty words.

00:04:16.060 Nothing's going on, really.

00:04:19.360 Just yelling.

00:04:25.480 Oh, protest. 0.95

00:04:27.260 I can't tell.

00:04:29.820 Stop.

00:04:31.340 Okay.

00:04:31.880 So a couple of people are.

00:04:34.560 It doesn't really show you as much as I thought.

00:04:36.800 It just shows you that some of these people are going into the street on foot and yelling

00:04:41.540 and screaming at ICE agents in the moments before the shooting.

00:04:44.280 I thought it was going to be more significant, but it gives you an idea of the, uh, of the

00:04:49.220 temperature, right?

00:04:50.300 Yelling and those curse words.

00:04:51.700 We're bleeping out the curse words.

00:04:52.640 Keep going.

00:04:57.320 It's very hard to do your job with people blowing whistles and yelling curse words at

00:05:00.760 you and you have no right to be here.

00:05:02.460 This is law enforcement.

00:05:03.400 You want to change the law?

00:05:04.280 Go ahead and change the law.

00:05:05.300 But don't blame these guys.

00:05:07.660 These guys.

00:05:08.360 And it turns out that the person that they were looking for or persons, at least one

00:05:13.000 of them was a sex offender.

00:05:14.460 At least one of them, uh, was a Somali person here illegally.

00:05:20.180 You got to go get these guys and you got to do it with guns, especially if it's a, uh,

00:05:25.200 if it's a sex offender.

00:05:27.540 Now let's go back to the St. Rebecca good, right?

00:05:32.580 St.

00:05:33.080 Good.

00:05:33.360 Everybody who dies posthumously, they're a saint.

00:05:36.480 Everything they did was beautiful.

00:05:38.340 That's true in some cases, like my uncle Donald, by the way, who died late last week.

00:05:42.620 Very sad.

00:05:43.380 I went to the wake last night, 91 years old, a great man, great Marine.

00:05:47.460 He had tremendous presence.

00:05:49.660 He was a man, uh, that you did not mess with.

00:05:52.400 Six foot, four inches tall.

00:05:54.540 Uh, he was my father's older brother, uh, closest to him in age.

00:05:58.940 He had seven years older than my, than my dad.

00:06:01.360 My dad came from a family of five children.

00:06:03.660 One of, he was one of five and Donald, uh, all the men, all of the boys went into the

00:06:08.980 Marine Corps.

00:06:09.420 How about that?

00:06:10.800 Leonard, who was, I think, 14 years older than my dad, Kenneth, the second oldest.

00:06:17.820 Uh, I think Mary, I, she didn't go into the Marine.

00:06:20.920 She became a very talented decorator, interior design, things like that.

00:06:26.160 And then Donald and, uh, and then my dad, Donald went into the Marines, came back, very successful

00:06:32.420 career in banking, immigrant savings bank, all over the metropolitan area, but probably

00:06:37.160 spent most of his time, most of his career at the flagship immigrant on 42nd street between

00:06:43.740 5th and Madison.

00:06:44.900 I worked there a couple of summers myself, sweeping the floor, uh, throwing out garbage

00:06:50.180 and, uh, shredding old mortgages, fully paid mortgages.

00:06:53.880 They had to be destroyed.

00:06:55.220 So I would, uh, that was part of my gig.

00:06:57.520 I worked with Dennis and, uh, anyway, he was a great man.

00:07:00.380 A lot of people came to the wake last night and said, you know, your, your uncle gave me

00:07:04.620 a job 44 years ago.

00:07:07.400 I'm still there.

00:07:08.720 You know, lots of little things, lots of little things for a lot of people.

00:07:12.580 But those little things turn out to be very, very big things.

00:07:16.340 Just a good, solid American, uh, cared deeply about the city.

00:07:22.820 I, you know, he was blown away that mom, Tommy got it.

00:07:25.260 I couldn't believe it.

00:07:26.140 Right. 0.66

00:07:26.420 Just, uh, disgusting.

00:07:28.260 You know, he was always sticking up for my dad too.

00:07:31.160 Uh, one time he called Curtis and Kuby because, uh, Bratton, that low life was just become

00:07:37.700 the commissioner again.

00:07:38.760 Right.

00:07:39.360 Desperately trying to become right.

00:07:41.200 Desperate for that job, just desperate for that job because he, he didn't really want

00:07:44.940 to do the job.

00:07:45.620 He wanted to cash in.

00:07:46.600 He wanted to become like, he had the job for about nine months and he says, guess what,

00:07:51.360 everybody?

00:07:51.740 I got the biggest job in the world and I'm going to, I start tomorrow.

00:07:55.480 And he just quit like that.

00:07:57.820 And he went off to make millions of dollars and strange cat.

00:08:02.000 Anyway, part of his, uh, schtick is once he becomes the, the police chief, bad mouthing

00:08:07.280 the department, right?

00:08:08.440 So he can fix what's so bad.

00:08:11.060 Right.

00:08:11.760 He like, like, like the Blasio, you know, pretending something is broken, then pretending to fix

00:08:18.100 what wasn't broken and then actually managing to break it.

00:08:20.880 That was the Blasio.

00:08:22.820 And that was Braden.

00:08:24.180 And so this is happening.

00:08:25.500 My dad, uh, uh, my uncle calls up the radio show.

00:08:29.080 It just lays into Braden.

00:08:31.100 It was on the front page of the daily news.

00:08:32.780 It was so cool.

00:08:35.040 Um, but he was a great American, humble, you know, didn't go around looking for attention,

00:08:41.160 but he got it anyway.

00:08:43.220 Cause he was such a solid dude.

00:08:45.660 I got to go back to this, uh, the, the fakest eulogy of all time.

00:08:51.420 Renee good.

00:08:53.000 I found out good isn't even a real last name.

00:08:55.320 Nothing about this person's real good is she just liked the name.

00:08:58.560 Apparently she wasn't even married to this woman. 0.97

00:09:01.260 Pick it up.

00:09:01.880 If you don't mind.

00:09:02.500 Um, I guess we can take it from the top.

00:09:04.660 Cut 12, please.

00:09:05.780 Cut 12.

00:09:06.380 This is the Rachel Maddow local anchor.

00:09:09.560 They're a glorifying and eulogizing Renee good.

00:09:15.900 The person who just tried to kill a cop, right?

00:09:19.300 But Hey, a couple of, a lot of things going into advantage.

00:09:22.120 These are cops who work for Donald Trump.

00:09:24.160 These are white cops, right?

00:09:25.800 Who are involved.

00:09:27.000 Right?

00:09:27.400 So who's, who's on the right side of this?

00:09:28.900 Oh, of course.

00:09:29.640 This 37 year old mother, the 37 year old mother who hates America and hates Jesus. 1.00

00:09:35.480 Cut 12, please.

00:09:36.680 Cut 12.

00:09:37.700 Hey, for the first time, we're hearing from Becca good, the wife of Renee good, who was

00:09:41.760 shot by ice agents in Minneapolis.

00:09:43.540 The statement is as follows.

00:09:46.020 Becca's words.

00:09:46.700 I want to extend my gratitude to all the people who have reached out from across the country

00:09:51.480 and around the world to support our family.

00:09:53.980 The kindness of strangers is the most fitting tribute.

00:09:56.200 Hey, just real quick, there's no family, really.

00:10:00.900 You know who's going to take the kid?

00:10:02.360 The father-in-law, the grandfather rather, the grandfather, the blood relative.

00:10:07.680 I guarantee you there is no legal arrangement for this kid to be brought up by terrorist

00:10:13.880 Becca. 0.99

00:10:15.180 And I have proof that she's a terrorist and an unfit mother. 1.00

00:10:19.100 You're going to call it a mother, mother, mother, mother, or an unfit mother. 1.00

00:10:22.380 Keep going.

00:10:23.040 My wife, Renee Nicole Macklin-Good, you knew that above all else, she was kind.

00:10:29.380 Renee sparkled.

00:10:30.220 She literally sparkled.

00:10:31.600 I mean, she didn't wear glitter, but I swear she had sparkles coming out of her pores all 1.00

00:10:35.140 the time.

00:10:36.180 You might think it was just my love talking, but her family says the same thing.

00:10:40.280 Renee was made of sunshine.

00:10:41.540 One, one, excuse me, excuse me, just, I'm sorry, every time the family is mentioned, I

00:10:45.520 got to point out, the family actually said she shouldn't have been there.

00:10:48.400 She had no business being there.

00:10:49.960 They didn't agree with her ways.

00:10:51.340 And, um, I don't think they're very fond of you, Becca.

00:10:57.000 And this, uh, this is a real trend now, right?

00:11:01.240 Don't distinguish yourself by anything else than other than your sexual appetites.

00:11:06.340 That's what makes you special.

00:11:08.140 It's funny how that makes certain people special and certain people total scourges, right?

00:11:12.420 If I were to exhibit my sexual appetites, right? 0.99

00:11:16.580 If I were to just unleash those, I would be a dog. 0.99

00:11:20.760 I would just be, I would be, right?

00:11:24.280 But the LGBT queer, that's beautiful and uplifting for all.

00:11:28.600 No, just make such a big deal out of it.

00:11:31.080 Keep going.

00:11:32.080 Renee lived an overarching belief.

00:11:33.700 There is kindness in the world and we need to do everything we can to find where it resides and nurture it where it needs to grow.

00:11:40.300 Renee was a Christian who knew that all religions teach the same essential truth.

00:11:44.600 We are here to love each other, care for each other, and keep each other safe.

00:11:48.100 Stop.

00:11:49.140 When I say she's, uh, look, there's, it's a bit more involved than that also.

00:11:54.660 I've heard that before.

00:11:55.580 All religions, you know, just, just be good.

00:11:57.580 Just be a good person, right?

00:11:59.280 Eh, just be a good person.

00:12:00.280 You can't really, you can't be a good person without God.

00:12:03.000 The goodness comes from him, not us.

00:12:05.100 All right?

00:12:05.960 And then when we do good, look at me.

00:12:07.500 I did something good.

00:12:08.280 Oh boy, I'm special.

00:12:09.160 I'm better.

00:12:09.540 I got status.

00:12:11.420 We're nothing without God.

00:12:12.780 And this person, I'm sorry.

00:12:14.180 I mean, I hope, I hope she's in heaven and she very well could be.

00:12:18.020 God can forgive anything, right?

00:12:19.600 But, uh, she was one lost soul.

00:12:21.740 And, uh, writing this dastardly poem, this perverted poem, how she resented the Bible 0.97

00:12:28.820 as parasitic Christians or, they're zealots with meaty hands. 0.93

00:12:34.940 Uh, just the kind of thing that, quite frankly, academics just swoon over. 0.97

00:12:40.340 It's the easiest thing in the world to put down somebody with the Bible. 0.98

00:12:43.800 And that's what she did here.

00:12:45.060 But keep going.

00:12:46.000 Like many people have done across place and time, we moved here to make a better life for

00:12:50.300 ourselves.

00:12:50.740 We chose Minnesota to make our home.

00:12:53.740 Our whole extended road trip here, we held hands in the car while our son drew all over

00:12:58.080 the windows to pass the time and the miles.

00:13:00.440 What we found when we got here was a vibrant and welcoming community.

00:13:03.860 We made friends and spread joy.

00:13:05.760 And while any place we were together was home, there was a strong shared sense here in Minneapolis

00:13:10.960 that we were looking out for each other.

00:13:13.020 Here, I had finally found peace and safe harbor.

00:13:15.760 That has been taken from me forever.

00:13:17.540 We were raising our son to believe that no matter where you come from or what you look

00:13:21.720 like, all of us deserve compassion and kindness.

00:13:25.040 Renee lived this belief every day.

00:13:27.060 She is pure love.

00:13:28.020 She is pure joy.

00:13:29.040 She is pure sunshine.

00:13:30.140 All right.

00:13:30.400 Stop right up until she hit the gas. 0.99

00:13:33.460 Right.

00:13:33.980 Everything's beautiful.

00:13:35.140 Treat people with kindness, compassion, respect.

00:13:37.740 Right.

00:13:37.980 Here is Becca Good.

00:13:40.740 Does this sound like kindness?

00:13:42.120 And the person who wrote that statement, right?

00:13:45.280 This is what she sounded like.

00:13:47.140 This is what she sounded like moments before giving her wife the fatal order to drive, baby, 1.00

00:13:53.340 drive.

00:13:54.540 Cut 11.

00:13:55.060 I'm not at it.

00:13:56.320 It's okay.

00:13:56.780 We don't change our plates every morning.

00:13:58.640 Just so you know.

00:13:59.860 It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later.

00:14:02.360 That's fine.

00:14:03.160 U.S. citizen.

00:14:04.060 You want to come at us?

00:14:07.400 You want to come at us?

00:14:08.780 I said, go get yourself some lunch, big boy.

00:14:10.740 Go ahead.

00:14:11.600 Out of the car.

00:14:12.900 Get out of the car.

00:14:14.320 How about that, huh?

00:14:16.120 Peace and love and joy and light.

00:14:18.200 Go get some lunch, big boy.

00:14:19.420 She looked actually a little bit, uh, scout herself. 0.58

00:14:26.020 Anyway, the hypocrisy, right?

00:14:28.580 Well, I hope that cop's going to be okay.

00:14:31.200 I know he's not going to be prosecuted, but he could be hassled for the rest of his life.

00:14:35.720 Bill Ackman, American hero, just donated $10 million to that family.

00:14:40.080 God bless that man.

00:14:41.380 Be right.

00:14:43.400 Every week, the Payne family cuts straight to the real financial story.

00:14:47.700 The one question, Bob, everyone's asking is, are we in an artificial intelligence bubble?

00:14:53.560 You've been through boom and busts.

00:14:55.580 What do you think?

00:14:56.360 No hype, no myths.

00:14:58.540 Just what actually matters to your money.

00:15:00.920 Does feel very similar to what we experienced in the 90s.

00:15:04.400 Where are we, though?

00:15:05.080 Are we in 1995, 1997, 1999?

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00:15:12.780 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative.

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00:15:21.500 Uh, that dentist.

00:15:23.320 You see the dentist and his wife killed by, it looks like, the ex-husband with whom she had no children. 0.78

00:15:30.880 Uh, ugly, ugly, ugly. 0.99

00:15:33.340 What are you thinking? 0.63

00:15:34.100 The doctor, he's a surgeon from Illinois. 0.92

00:15:35.880 He drives to Ohio, kills the, uh, kills the family, allegedly, uh, and, uh, or kills the husband and wife.

00:15:44.220 And then goes back to Illinois, thinking that he wouldn't get caught.

00:15:47.360 Uh, you can't do anything without being spotted.

00:15:50.020 Literally, there's almost no expectation of privacy once you leave the house.

00:15:55.400 Uh, once you go outside.

00:15:57.200 That's it.

00:15:57.960 That's it.

00:15:58.400 You're going to be recorded.

00:15:59.660 Everybody knows where your car is.

00:16:01.140 The CIA, the cops, uh, your wife, everybody knows where you are. 0.62

00:16:05.880 At all times.

00:16:07.120 Um, I really feel bad for this, uh, police officer who fired that shot.

00:16:11.280 I know what it's like to get out of a fitness routine.

00:16:13.340 And I think he got out of his fitness routine.

00:16:15.960 Understandably so, because he was dragged 100 yards by, um, a, uh, maniac, uh, sex offender criminal last June.

00:16:24.800 We all have that.

00:16:25.840 It's been all adjudicated.

00:16:27.120 The guy's in prison.

00:16:27.960 But in trying to apprehend him, he was opening the door and the guy hit the gas and dragged our, this ICE officer all the way down the block.

00:16:36.280 Imagine being, I want, I only want to hear from people on this issue who have been dragged down the block at least 50 feet by a vehicle.

00:16:43.640 All right?

00:16:43.960 So if you don't like it, you can let me know, um, if you don't like what happened.

00:16:48.620 But you have to, you have to call in if you've been dragged any distance.

00:16:53.400 Let's say at least 10 feet by a vehicle.

00:16:55.320 All right?

00:16:55.640 And that can be rather, uh, that can be rather upsetting.

00:16:59.480 800-848-9222.

00:17:01.520 800-848-9222.

00:17:05.620 Poor Ashley Babbitt.

00:17:07.380 They all called her an insurrectionist.

00:17:09.500 And this one, uh, Renee Good is a mother, a mother and an American citizen.

00:17:14.580 You know, she's just a mom. 1.00

00:17:17.320 Didn't get, didn't have custody of two of her three children.

00:17:20.980 I'm sorry, but there's something a little bit off.

00:17:23.620 Mom always gets the custody unless there's a little bit of a, of a problem. 1.00

00:17:29.600 And there's a problem.

00:17:30.340 This one, this one a little bit more so.

00:17:33.020 Uh, she was stalking them all day long. 0.91

00:17:35.620 I have to wrap up this silly, uh, moment from the wife. 0.87

00:17:38.780 Do we want to pick it up?

00:17:39.820 All right.

00:17:40.120 This is the wife and the memorial.

00:17:42.540 And we'll do it right after the break.

00:17:44.300 800-848-9222.

00:17:46.360 800-848-9222.

00:17:49.220 Eric Swalwell.

00:17:49.620 Eric Swalwell.

00:17:50.640 Only in a country like America could a man like that after Fang Fang show his face in public. 0.92

00:17:56.780 But he's running for governor, even though he's ineligible to run for governor.

00:18:01.120 Our friend Joel Gilbert went face to face with Eric Swalwell.

00:18:06.060 Eric lost.

00:18:07.080 Joel won.

00:18:07.760 Joel joins us next.

00:18:08.780 The Stone Zone.

00:18:14.720 Entertaining and informative.

00:18:16.640 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:18:19.580 You know, a Honda Pilot, uh, that this, uh, domestic terrorist was driving, trying to ram down that cop.

00:18:26.880 And even if she wasn't, like, it doesn't really matter.

00:18:29.480 We'll never know what was on her mind exactly.

00:18:32.240 Uh, we don't have to.

00:18:34.000 It's, it's the actions.

00:18:36.040 You ever hear about those guys?

00:18:38.020 I, I, it happens throughout history where somebody robs a gas station and a cop gets killed in the execution of the, uh, of the robbery.

00:18:49.240 And even though one guy pulled the trigger, they're all guilty of killing that cop.

00:18:54.080 And they all get, there's something under the law if you're engaged in an illegal act.

00:18:58.480 And, uh, yeah.

00:19:00.000 So, it, the, the circumstances really, I mean, whether she was turning that wheel or not.

00:19:05.360 Number one, um, it's unknowable what she was thinking.

00:19:10.620 Number two, did the officer perceive that?

00:19:13.380 It doesn't really matter.

00:19:14.940 More than, you know, you can, you got to steer that wheel for a bit before it actually happens.

00:19:20.080 It happens before the car actually responds.

00:19:23.160 It was going in his direction.

00:19:24.620 We heard it hit him.

00:19:26.680 We heard it.

00:19:27.700 We heard it.

00:19:28.700 It's, he is the boss in this situation, quite frankly.

00:19:31.300 Even post-event.

00:19:32.800 It is his state of mind.

00:19:34.980 What was going on in his head.

00:19:36.660 And he'll tell us.

00:19:37.880 He'll tell his bosses.

00:19:38.860 He'll tell investigators.

00:19:40.620 Uh, although maybe, you know, maybe, maybe he doesn't have to.

00:19:43.700 Maybe, right?

00:19:44.600 Because everybody seems to be out to get him.

00:19:47.120 Except for the, well, except for millions of people.

00:19:50.100 And, quite frankly, President Trump and Vice President Vance.

00:19:53.840 Um, $50,000 for a Honda Pilot.

00:19:56.600 I did not know they cost that much.

00:19:58.300 Go to Mercedes.

00:19:59.140 Go to Ray Cantina.

00:20:00.260 I mean, my gosh, you can drive a Mercedes.

00:20:03.240 Mercedes.

00:20:03.720 That's a lot of money for a Honda Pilot.

00:20:06.300 Lease a Mercedes.

00:20:07.260 I don't buy.

00:20:07.980 I lease.

00:20:08.600 Personally, I lease.

00:20:10.500 Uh, although I know a lot of people like to buy, too.

00:20:12.880 Nothing like that new car smell, right?

00:20:15.320 All right.

00:20:15.540 Here is, um, Eric Swalwell, the congressman from California.

00:20:19.400 Desperate to be taken seriously.

00:20:22.480 Um, exploiting the latest, uh, calamity to befall somebody else.

00:20:28.520 In this case, the driver in Minneapolis.

00:20:30.980 Go ahead.

00:20:31.800 This is the glove compartment of Renee Goode.

00:20:35.260 37-year-old mom.

00:20:36.980 Three kids.

00:20:38.120 She wasn't a terrorist.

00:20:39.560 She wasn't a criminal.

00:20:41.540 She was a mom.

00:20:43.140 A mom.

00:20:44.000 No.

00:20:44.560 And she had teddy bears in the glove compartment.

00:20:46.700 The officer should have said, oh, you have teddy bears?

00:20:48.640 You've got to be a nice person.

00:20:49.940 Oh, it's okay that you tried to run me over.

00:20:52.160 I didn't know you were a mother, after all.

00:20:55.440 You know, Dennis Rader, the BTK killer, was a father.

00:20:58.020 Who cares?

00:20:59.480 All right.

00:21:00.220 One of our favorites, Joel Gilbert, just had a face-to-face showdown with Congressman Swalwell,

00:21:06.000 who desperately wants to be somebody important.

00:21:08.520 He's running for governor right now, even though that whole campaign is probably doomed, in part, thanks to Joel Gilbert.

00:21:14.480 Joel, how are you?

00:21:15.740 Okay, good to be back.

00:21:16.640 Thank you, Greg.

00:21:17.240 Hey, before we get you on Swalwell, what's your assessment of the Minneapolis situation and the, you've seen all the videotape.

00:21:24.920 What do you make of everything?

00:21:25.920 Well, we're seeing the same kind of leftist playbook from Trayvon Martin, from George Floyd, where they try to talk about the person, the perpetrator, as an innocent person who was just getting candy or just getting some food and was accosted by police or a white man unjustly.

00:21:44.520 So they're kind of running out the same playbook, and I think we do have a lot of good conservative media that's pointing out the facts and showing the videos, but that's the uphill battle, is to penetrate the media with the facts.

00:21:56.280 That's what we're doing.

00:21:57.680 And by the way, just your take on this, and there's no right or wrong answer, but do you think some aspects of conservative media spend too much time worried about what dominant leftist media are doing and trying to debunk that, as opposed to just telling the truth themselves?

00:22:13.600 It's fine if they are, but sometimes I think we get carried away with what the left is doing, the left media.

00:22:21.000 What do you think?

00:22:21.860 Well, look, I became a regular viewer of MSNBC only because of Hannity and Fox News.

00:22:28.600 All they do is run clips of leftist media, CNN, MSNBC, MSNOW.

00:22:34.720 And so that's the only reason you watch those shows is because they base their shows on what the other shows are doing.

00:22:39.500 So I am pretty sick of that, and I wish we would just cover the news without having to cover what the leftists are saying.

00:22:45.960 Right.

00:22:46.220 No, it's a crutch, and it's too easy to do.

00:22:50.620 So you've been all over this Swalwell candidacy for governor.

00:22:55.240 He's got a lot of irregularities, and I heard you went face-to-face with him the other night.

00:23:00.120 Right.

00:23:00.440 He announced a town hall in Santa Monica, California, near here where I live.

00:23:04.480 So I thought, great, I downloaded a ticket, no problem.

00:23:07.060 I registered, and I went to this event on Friday.

00:23:10.100 Only about 100 people were there, a very small crowd.

00:23:12.860 And my intention was because I know at town hall, the format is you can ask a lot of questions.

00:23:17.220 So I figured I wanted to ask him about what I've been writing about in the Gateway Pundit.

00:23:21.160 I wanted to say, Mr. Swalwell, you know the California Constitution requires you to have been a resident for five years before an election for governor,

00:23:29.600 but your deed of trust in Washington, D.C. says that's your home address, your principal residence.

00:23:34.560 You have no California address.

00:23:37.160 You even used your attorney's address for your official candidate filing, which is perjury.

00:23:41.740 Will you either give me your home address or announce you're dropping out?

00:23:44.540 That was my plan.

00:23:45.260 I asked that question.

00:23:47.980 So I'm there, and he comes out, and he actually comes around and shakes everybody's hands.

00:23:51.960 So I actually shake his hand.

00:23:52.920 He was very nice.

00:23:53.660 I said, you know, thanks for being here.

00:23:55.200 But I did see a panicked look in his eyes for a second.

00:23:58.960 I felt like maybe he recognized me.

00:24:01.480 And I sat there.

00:24:03.420 He talked for about 10 minutes.

00:24:04.860 He only took eight questions.

00:24:06.280 I didn't get a chance to ask a question, and he closed out the event.

00:24:09.580 I was shocked.

00:24:10.420 He closed it out an hour and a half early.

00:24:12.660 Now, I don't know if that was because of me.

00:24:14.080 He was afraid I'd ask a question.

00:24:16.240 But then they announced, they said, if you want to get a photo with a congressman, you

00:24:20.620 need to come wait in this line.

00:24:22.000 So I thought, great, I'll go wait in line, and I can ask him a question when we're taking

00:24:25.900 a photo.

00:24:26.940 And these three six-foot, five-inch goons all of a sudden appear with security jackets 0.82

00:24:32.420 in front of me, and they say, Mr. Gilbert, what's your plan?

00:24:35.640 I said, who are you?

00:24:37.880 They said, what's your plan?

00:24:39.340 And I said, I wanted to take a photo with a congressman.

00:24:41.920 They said, we're not going to allow that.

00:24:44.080 You can come over here and chat with us instead.

00:24:46.960 And I said, well, I have nothing to say to you guys, so I'm going to leave.

00:24:51.140 So I left.

00:24:52.060 So they kind of escorted me out.

00:24:53.520 I actually posted a video for that.

00:24:55.280 It's pretty interesting.

00:24:56.680 But I didn't say a word.

00:24:58.100 All I did is sit there.

00:24:58.980 So they must have recognized me.

00:25:00.420 Swalwell must have told his security to prevent me from talking to him.

00:25:04.960 I think he is afraid to answer questions because he does have a residency problem.

00:25:09.380 He is not eligible to run for governor of California.

00:25:14.200 And it's pretty interesting listening to him there for even 30 minutes.

00:25:19.200 I mean, he's a Bernie Sanders clone wannabe talking about ICE.

00:25:24.600 He invoked Anne Frank from the Holocaust.

00:25:27.500 He said, these ICE people are dragging women by their hair through the streets. 1.00

00:25:31.960 He said, I'm going to use law enforcement to prosecute them when I'm governor.

00:25:36.520 So he has a whole radical agenda, no different from Bernie Sanders.

00:25:41.360 How about that?

00:25:42.820 Hey, we have the moment.

00:25:44.480 Is this the moment where you were escorted out or is this the moment where you're saying hi to Swalwell?

00:25:49.620 On the video, I'm not sure which one.

00:25:52.420 There is a video where you can hear.

00:25:54.220 I put some music in there.

00:25:55.280 You can't hear the voices that well, but you can see it.

00:25:57.500 And maybe if we do your TV show, you can see it all.

00:25:59.780 All right.

00:26:00.160 So it's not going to work.

00:26:00.960 Well, give it a shot.

00:26:01.880 I want to hear this thing.

00:26:02.720 All right.

00:26:02.960 Just in case.

00:26:03.820 Hit it.

00:26:09.240 I don't think you can hear it.

00:26:12.820 You what?

00:26:13.620 What did you say to that guy?

00:26:15.600 He said, you know, good to see you.

00:26:17.400 And I said, thanks for coming.

00:26:19.340 And then when the three goons came and surrounded me, they said, you know, what's your plan?

00:26:25.000 I said, you know, I want to take a photo.

00:26:28.260 Right.

00:26:28.420 So, look, he's a serious radical.

00:26:31.200 I did find out something interesting.

00:26:33.420 He did say that he became a Democrat to antagonize his parents.

00:26:37.380 That's what he told the crowd.

00:26:38.800 He said, I was raised by Republicans.

00:26:40.380 His father and his brothers are police officers.

00:26:42.840 So I couldn't help getting this feeling that Swalwell is doing some kind of lifelong rebellion against his parents.

00:26:49.460 It's like a psychological problem of some kind.

00:26:52.140 That's what I walked away with.

00:26:53.300 That's a strange thing to say.

00:26:54.580 And one other thing that I see, he's in this game for his ego.

00:26:57.920 I mean, look, they got great big signs that say Swalwell all over the place.

00:27:03.020 I mean, that's so unnatural when you think about it.

00:27:05.380 And it's so, like, ego serving.

00:27:08.320 You know, President Trump, you know what his motto was?

00:27:10.660 Make America great again.

00:27:11.900 You didn't see his picture all over the place.

00:27:13.660 You know, I mean, actually, and when you were in in 2016, you didn't even see the name Trump.

00:27:17.960 We already know the name Trump.

00:27:19.260 Make America great again.

00:27:20.440 And this is Swalwell, I mean, just my impression of him spending an hour kind of close up is that he's very calculating.

00:27:30.720 He's highly ambitious.

00:27:32.440 I think he knows California is kind of a one party state.

00:27:34.940 And if he secures the Democrat nomination, he'll be governor.

00:27:38.260 I'm sure he plans to run for president again.

00:27:41.080 I think that he is going through this kind of lifelong childhood rebellion against his parents.

00:27:48.100 I think that's what it's really all about.

00:27:49.860 That's what I could tell.

00:27:50.700 He's got something wrong with him.

00:27:52.540 And he volunteered it to the crowd.

00:27:54.560 He said, I became a Democrat to antagonize my parents.

00:27:57.260 So, you know, political tyrants in history who cause mass destruction and mayhem, they all start with these psychological problems growing up.

00:28:06.800 So I think Swalwell has all the potential to be one of these guys.

00:28:10.420 And he's positioned himself as this big anti-Trump.

00:28:14.080 That's his path.

00:28:14.860 He wants to be, I'm super anti-Trump.

00:28:17.380 And he thinks that's the way to get elected.

00:28:19.020 Well, that's pretty crowded.

00:28:20.000 Hey, last thing.

00:28:21.280 You've done really important work about the residents or non-residents in California.

00:28:26.500 Any mainstream dominant media pickup of that?

00:28:30.920 Now, we were talking a minute ago.

00:28:32.200 We don't really care.

00:28:33.000 But, however, Democrats care.

00:28:35.620 And he has primary opponents.

00:28:38.360 They're going to care.

00:28:39.020 So, is this thing getting picked up?

00:28:42.060 It has not gotten picked up yet.

00:28:43.880 I think there will be some legal filings in the state of California that I'm having a part of that are going to force the Secretary of State to rule him ineligible.

00:28:55.720 It's called a petition for writ of mandate.

00:28:58.160 Who else is running out there?

00:29:00.060 Of course, Steve Hilton, the Fox News commentator.

00:29:03.720 There's about 10 people that no one's heard of.

00:29:06.300 It's way too early.

00:29:07.460 No one even cares about the governor's race right now.

00:29:09.640 But that just shows you how serious Swalwell is because he's out here doing town halls all over the place.

00:29:13.840 Wait, is it this year or next year?

00:29:15.540 It's in November of this year.

00:29:17.360 Oh, boy.

00:29:18.600 But it doesn't really pick up until April or even June or even September when people start paying attention.

00:29:24.260 But wait, are there any other mainstream Democrats going for this?

00:29:27.720 No, there's this crazy woman named Kathy or Kerry or somebody that's gotten terrible publicity. 0.95

00:29:33.760 So Swalwell, I think, is at 10 percent.

00:29:36.400 But most people are at about 8 or 10 percent right now.

00:29:38.940 But I think he sees the path to become governor.

00:29:42.160 And he's exploiting this whole anti-Trump, anti-ICE thing to pursue it.

00:29:48.920 Was there anybody normal on the Democrat?

00:29:51.040 I mean, normal.

00:29:51.640 You know what I mean?

00:29:52.000 Not as bad as Swalwell.

00:29:53.280 I mean, for crying out loud, he could be governor for I mean, this could I wasn't taking it seriously.

00:29:59.600 Isn't somebody like, oh, I don't know, one of those one of those, you know, Ted Lieu or somebody like that.

00:30:05.920 I mean, no, there's nobody that I know of.

00:30:08.520 I think Swalwell's biggest problem is the fact that he does not have a California home or address.

00:30:13.900 He named his Washington, D.C. home as his principal address.

00:30:17.140 California Constitution says he cannot run.

00:30:19.220 That's his biggest adversary right now.

00:30:21.020 I think unless we get him eliminated on the ineligibility, I think he does have a path to become governor.

00:30:28.660 Oh, boy.

00:30:29.680 All right.

00:30:30.260 Well, they thought they had problems with Newsom.

00:30:33.740 Joel Gilbert, we appreciate it, pal.

00:30:36.220 Check him out at Highway61 and ENT.com.

00:30:40.380 All kinds of great material.

00:30:42.600 The Roseanne Barr documentary and everything else.

00:30:45.000 Joel Gilbert, we thank you.

00:30:46.400 All right.

00:30:46.660 Thanks so much.

00:30:47.240 You bet.

00:30:47.600 To be continued.

00:30:48.140 Oh, give me a call.

00:30:49.820 800-848-9222.

00:30:51.780 800-848-9222.

00:30:54.560 California.

00:30:55.420 You got to do something.

00:30:56.860 You can do better than Swalwell.

00:30:59.480 I mean, even different Democrats.

00:31:01.500 Fang Fang and the rest. 0.61

00:31:03.500 This guy?

00:31:04.520 This guy for real?

00:31:06.700 Ronald Reagan?

00:31:08.720 I mean, his.

00:31:10.860 I please, please tell me that's not true.

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00:31:39.640 Man, a lot of people have been dragged by cars.

00:31:43.000 Are you serious?

00:31:44.680 You were seriously dragged by a car?

00:31:47.020 Let's see here.

00:31:48.700 Who's this?

00:31:50.420 Paul.

00:31:51.680 Hello?

00:31:53.200 Hello.

00:31:54.760 Is this true?

00:31:56.740 Yep.

00:31:57.200 What happened?

00:31:59.240 I was on a bike, and a truck hit me, and as a result of the hit, I got turned over,

00:32:07.960 and so my hands were dragged along the cement, and finally I separated my shoulder, and I

00:32:17.260 was really scared because I was upside down, and I thought another car might come and run

00:32:22.280 me over.

00:32:23.660 Oh, boy.

00:32:24.860 When was this?

00:32:25.560 Yeah.

00:32:27.200 Uh, 40 years ago. 1.00

00:32:29.540 Damn. 0.99

00:32:30.660 Well, do you have any scars or anything like that? 1.00

00:32:34.380 Sure.

00:32:35.100 On my hands.

00:32:36.220 Yikes.

00:32:37.500 Eeh.

00:32:38.220 Well, you made it through.

00:32:39.500 That must be, uh...

00:32:40.800 What kind of truck was this?

00:32:43.240 It was, uh, just a delivery truck. 1.00

00:32:46.180 Damn. 1.00

00:32:46.660 Did you sue? 1.00

00:32:48.940 What?

00:32:49.520 Did you sue?

00:32:50.140 Sure.

00:32:51.220 Yeah.

00:32:51.480 Punitive damages.

00:32:53.100 How did you do?

00:32:54.960 I got all right.

00:32:55.980 I did all right.

00:32:57.180 I'm, I'm, I'm an ex-lawyer.

00:32:59.820 Uh-huh.

00:33:01.980 By the way, can I, can I go into something else for a second?

00:33:06.400 No.

00:33:07.100 No, of course you can.

00:33:07.820 What is it?

00:33:08.220 If, if we want buyers for, for homes and in order to get homes about 30, 30 to 40 years

00:33:17.720 ago, banks started taking out the right to assume a mortgage so that anybody who wanted

00:33:24.320 to buy a house had to get a new mortgage in order to buy that house.

00:33:29.720 And if we could just amend the, the, the rights of, of parties so that everybody can

00:33:36.240 assume a mortgage instead, it could be much cheaper for a person to buy a house.

00:33:42.900 Uh, what do you mean assume a mortgage?

00:33:44.840 Like take over somebody else's mortgage?

00:33:47.920 Yes.

00:33:48.620 Well, who the hell is gonna, uh, uh, that doesn't seem like a uniformly good deal.

00:33:54.320 That's only in certain circumstances where that's going to be a good deal.

00:33:58.160 That's in most circumstances.

00:34:00.040 Believe me.

00:34:01.620 You know, the last time we loosened up the, uh, the mortgage situation, it brought on that

00:34:06.180 housing bubble.

00:34:06.960 Remember?

00:34:08.380 Yeah, but we're not loosening that up.

00:34:10.420 What we're doing is we're saying to the banks, Hey, guess what?

00:34:13.480 You can't write a new mortgage so fast.

00:34:16.220 We're going to, we're going to have the people come in and save $5,000 when they buy the house

00:34:21.920 because they can assume the other person's mortgage.

00:34:25.300 And that mortgage may be a 4% mortgage or a 3% mortgage.

00:34:29.940 And it might be 50,000, a hundred thousand.

00:34:33.020 Well, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:34:34.020 What if I've, if I'm the seller and I've already paid off a lot of my mortgage, you know, I want

00:34:39.560 more than what's the rest of that mortgage.

00:34:41.820 I want, you know, I need dough.

00:34:43.420 Like anybody, I want to get top dollar.

00:34:45.140 I don't want anybody just taking over the mortgage.

00:34:46.960 No, they take over the mortgage, but they still have to give you the full price of the

00:34:52.220 deal.

00:34:52.760 Oh, all right.

00:34:53.720 I look, I don't know about this stuff.

00:34:56.680 Ask who's that Fed Reserve guy who nobody likes Jerome Powell.

00:35:01.160 No, it's intriguing, but I, I, I don't know.

00:35:03.820 Thank you.

00:35:04.800 Joe.

00:35:05.340 Hello.

00:35:07.500 Joe from Jersey.

00:35:08.760 Oh, forgive me.

00:35:09.720 Yes.

00:35:10.180 Hello.

00:35:11.060 This Joe from Jersey.

00:35:12.220 I want to know if we can bring back waterboarding.

00:35:14.240 Can the president bring that back?

00:35:15.660 You bring back waterboarding.

00:35:17.240 Why do you like about waterboarding so much?

00:35:19.240 It comes out with the truth.

00:35:21.140 I don't know what we're doing.

00:35:22.760 It comes out with the truth when you, when somebody, you know, you catch somebody trying

00:35:26.720 to blow up things.

00:35:27.660 You think, huh?

00:35:29.120 Well, that's what I was, that's what I heard all the while.

00:35:32.020 Yeah.

00:35:32.300 Well, uh, you know, here's the thing about waterboarding.

00:35:35.040 We're doing it right now.

00:35:36.320 Okay.

00:35:36.740 It never went away.

00:35:37.960 In fact, uh, don't tell me, don't ask me how I know this, but waterboarding has been around,

00:35:42.300 uh, for a long time.

00:35:43.740 In fact, it's invented in ancient China, but, um, you know, we don't want to advertise

00:35:49.520 that too much.

00:35:51.020 We don't.

00:35:52.280 And, uh, the other thing is, you know, when we start waterboarding people a lot, guess

00:35:58.160 what they do to our guys worse?

00:36:01.180 We should really treat these guys, these prisoners nicely.

00:36:04.700 I know a lot of people I know don't like that idea, but a lot of people I know, uh, have

00:36:09.720 never been in the position of being, uh, you know, a prisoner of war, right?

00:36:15.160 Uh, not that I was, you know, well, I was vulnerable at least.

00:36:18.280 I was flying over enemy territory.

00:36:20.300 They sent me to prisoner of war school just in case.

00:36:23.720 And, uh, the idea that we're, uh, you know, torturing people is, uh, you know, I know it

00:36:30.000 gets your macho up, right?

00:36:31.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:31.860 We got to be tough on these guys, but then they're tough on our guys, right?

00:36:36.420 They're tough on our guys when they're over there and they do worse.

00:36:39.660 So I say, uh, you know, go easy on them.

00:36:43.500 Actually.

00:36:43.960 I don't like the idea.

00:36:45.420 I know.

00:36:45.940 Hey, by the way, there are better ways to get information, much better ways to get information

00:36:50.420 than torturing a guy, butter them up, set them up with some girls. 1.00

00:36:55.900 They'll tell you everything you want to know.

00:36:57.460 Mike.

00:36:57.900 Hello.

00:37:00.640 Hey, Greg, how you doing?

00:37:02.260 Good.

00:37:02.480 Um, yeah, I just had a point about, um, you know, the whole thing with the fake news.

00:37:08.240 Um, did you happen to catch the golden globes last night?

00:37:11.280 They were last night.

00:37:13.520 Uh, yeah, no, I know.

00:37:14.980 I saw it in the paper.

00:37:15.840 No, I did not watch.

00:37:16.960 I, uh, I have no interest.

00:37:19.120 It's like barely a thing now, right?

00:37:21.580 Barely a thing.

00:37:22.620 That was at the wake for my uncle, Donald Kelly.

00:37:25.260 Great man.

00:37:26.300 I didn't see any golden globes, nor would I have watched even if I was home.

00:37:29.880 What about it?

00:37:31.240 No, but the host was great.

00:37:32.700 The, uh, what's her name? 0.87

00:37:33.860 Glazer.

00:37:34.340 She's a comedian. 1.00

00:37:35.360 Nikki Glazer.

00:37:36.100 Nikki Glazer.

00:37:36.960 And she really went off on the fake media. 1.00

00:37:39.800 Epstein and stuff like that.

00:37:41.700 Yeah.

00:37:41.960 They panned around the crowd and they showed all the people laughing, laughing uncomfortably.

00:37:46.040 It was really fun to watch.

00:37:47.400 All right.

00:37:47.780 So tell you what, we'll play it when we come back.

00:37:49.800 Nikki Glazer.

00:37:50.400 I did hear some positive buzz about her and, uh, I always get her confused with some other 0.60

00:37:55.480 person.

00:37:56.760 She's like in her early forties.

00:37:58.360 I think she went to college in Kansas and she started the old fashioned way. 0.86

00:38:03.440 You know, she just did standup when she was 18.

00:38:05.960 She went to the cafeteria and looked at people and she said to herself, what would Sarah Silverman

00:38:11.240 be saying about these people?

00:38:12.680 And that helped her find her voice.

00:38:15.900 She mimicked and then she grew. 1.00

00:38:18.140 All right.

00:38:18.540 Yeah.

00:38:19.080 This is like the third time I've heard it.

00:38:20.620 We'll play it when we come back.

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00:38:59.880 The one question, Bob, everyone's asking is, are we in an artificial intelligence bubble?

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00:39:13.100 Does feel very similar to what we experienced in the 90s.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - January 17, 2026

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