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00:00:02.780 How do you protect yourself as an investor? What's the strategy?

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00:00:13.620 Well, I think that's the problem right now is a lot of people that are close to retirement,

00:00:16.760 they're taking so much risks. And if we do get a big sell-off, it could derail their retirement.

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00:00:37.820 Well, every single seat in the U.S. House of Representatives will count in the 2026 elections,

00:00:44.340 and strangely, New York, a now reliably blue state, could supply some and produce pickups.

00:00:52.700 Many think that there are two House seats on Long Island that Republicans only recently had,

00:00:59.980 who could, if Bruce Blakeman runs as well there as he ran in his re-election, could lead them to victory.

00:01:07.200 And of course, everybody's looking yet again at the upstate seat of Elise Stefanik.

00:01:14.900 Meanwhile, President Donald Trump issued an important endorsement for Senator Peter Oberacker in the 19th District,

00:01:23.120 taking on an incumbent with his full weight.

00:01:26.860 I think that's a potential pickup where Republicans actually are competitive.

00:01:31.980 Of course, in New York 21, this is the same seat that many thought would be in an August special election of last year,

00:01:40.520 when President Trump appointed Elise Stefanik, an excellent choice, to be U.N. ambassador.

00:01:47.740 She didn't resign the House seat because our Republican margin in the House was so thin. 0.99

00:01:53.520 So she remained a House member.

00:01:56.400 It became very clear, however, that since it was a special election, there was no Republican primary.

00:02:02.760 And a handful of Republican bosses, most of whom had little experience actually electing people, would select the nominee.

00:02:11.480 At that point, Anthony Constantino had become kind of a local fable.

00:02:17.800 He was the guy who put the vote for Trump sign on top of his very successful factory for the company that he helms, Sticker Mule.

00:02:27.780 This is a rags-to-riches Horatio Alger story.

00:02:32.460 He was born in the district.

00:02:34.780 He is a boxer.

00:02:36.580 He's Italian.

00:02:38.200 And he comes from nothing.

00:02:40.460 He's built a multimillion-dollar online printing business.

00:02:45.860 And he's funded his own campaign.

00:02:48.200 So far, he has deposited $7.2 million, I believe it is, maybe $7.25 million, into his own campaign account.

00:02:59.720 Constantino says that he wants to be free of the strings of special interest money.

00:03:08.640 Specifically, he said he won't take money from big pharma.

00:03:12.560 He won't take money from the big insurance companies.

00:03:15.600 He won't take money from the attorneys.

00:03:17.100 He won't take money from the utilities.

00:03:21.180 He doesn't want to take money from the banks.

00:03:23.760 He wants to be completely free of that special influence that comes with campaign contributions.

00:03:29.460 So he's self-funding his campaign.

00:03:33.520 He's clashed very recently with an assemblyman named Robert Smullen.

00:03:38.640 Smullen, in kind of a wild attack, claimed that Constantino, who built this online company, Sticker Mule,

00:03:46.920 which is, by the way, the largest employer in this upstate district, Sticker Mule itself is in Amsterdam.

00:03:53.540 But Anthony grew up in the neighboring town that's in this district, grew up there.

00:04:01.420 He built that into one of the largest online success stories.

00:04:05.820 And he employs dozens and dozens of people.

00:04:09.700 And now he's gone on television.

00:04:12.360 It was very interesting last time preparing to prove to the party bosses he did a very heavy schedule of cable, television, radio,

00:04:24.040 preparing what we thought would be a tough fight.

00:04:25.880 Polling showed that he would have crushed a Republican primary.

00:04:29.420 But the real danger was an August general election in that atmosphere, that hate Trump atmosphere,

00:04:35.580 where Republican voters, the polling showed, were not motivated.

00:04:39.760 Unfortunately, some Republicans at that time, perhaps even today, think all of our problems are solved because Donald J.

00:04:46.300 Trump's in the White House and Democrats were highly motivated to turn out.

00:04:50.140 So we've seen these fluke accidents in upstate summer special elections before where Republicans have lost reliably Republican seats

00:04:59.300 because their people turn out and ours don't in the heat of the summer.

00:05:04.580 So this is a real race to watch.

00:05:07.420 It's interesting because Smollin claimed that Konstantinos clearly has some business acumen,

00:05:13.280 had unpaid tax liens in three states, Kansas, Ohio, and Wyoming, claiming that Konstantinos was a tax scofflaw.

00:05:24.700 His lawyer very quickly made public the record that showed that these liens had been settled years ago.

00:05:30.900 But more precisely, it turns out that Anthony Konstantinos, who is a very young man,

00:05:38.100 held the record for the second largest refund check from the IRS for overpayment of his federal taxes.

00:05:46.100 The only person who has gotten a larger refund happens to be Donald J. Trump.

00:05:53.940 So he has a huge advantage here in this race.

00:05:56.980 He's self-funded.

00:05:58.740 Now we go into the all-important petition period.

00:06:02.300 Now, petitioning in New York State is a trap.

00:06:05.760 It is a very arcane and very complicated legal process in which you can legally select,

00:06:15.020 collect signatures to put someone on the ballot, either in an intra-party contest or a general election contest,

00:06:22.620 let's say, an independent.

00:06:24.540 And you have to collect signatures.

00:06:26.520 Those signatures have to be witnessed by someone who is a registered voter or is a justice of the peace

00:06:35.620 or is a notary public and has filed the appropriate documents about that with the state election board.

00:06:42.900 But there are lawyers, most of them Democrats, who specialize in finding some imperfection in your petition.

00:06:50.320 Any minor imperfection, the mission knows how to knock you off the ballot.

00:06:59.360 So they give you a finite period of time to collect these.

00:07:04.420 Now, the number is really minimal.

00:07:05.920 I think by law, one needs, in this case, 15,000 signatures to get on the ballot for the Republican primary in what is going to be an open seat.

00:07:15.080 And Constantino asked to have an army of volunteers out there and perhaps even some more experienced and paid petitioners

00:07:25.840 to ensure that the machine that first tried to get Mark Molinaro, a former congressman, not a bad fellow,

00:07:34.080 former Dutchess County executive, served one term in the House, unfortunately lost that seat.

00:07:40.100 But some party leaders in both Albany and Washington may have been trying to entice him into the race against Constantino,

00:07:50.140 who is a feisty fellow who is very outspoken about the fact that, for example,

00:07:57.280 Joe Biden appropriated the money for the installation of the Strategic Defense Initiative machinery and technology at Fort Drum here in New York,

00:08:07.040 the perfect place for it.

00:08:08.320 Right now, we paid the money, but we are naked.

00:08:11.900 We are not shielded, even though this was funded years ago.

00:08:15.840 He's been a great proponent for that.

00:08:19.180 So, of course, a Trump loyalist is a race you really want to watch. 0.88

00:08:24.640 The other race people are starting to watch, I think, prematurely is the race for 2028. 0.94

00:08:29.460 There's no question the Republican Party has a very deep base.

00:08:32.960 We have a very effective vice president.

00:08:37.540 He's hitting popularity levels within his own base that are unseen in the history of polling.

00:08:43.760 I mean, I know the left likes to say, oh, there's deep divisions in the MAGA movement.

00:08:50.020 There may be some there may be some some chatter.

00:08:54.080 But Trump remains extraordinarily strong.

00:08:56.320 I mean, he's strong as a old friend Robert Coker, a U.S.

00:08:59.780 sugar to say, strong as a as a box of mullet.

00:09:02.960 But it is absolutely true. 0.86

00:09:06.680 So the handing of the baton, if and when that happens, is going to be very impactful.

00:09:12.720 President Trump was asked if he could make a choice between J.D.

00:09:16.600 Vance and his hard charging secretary of state, Marco Rubio.

00:09:20.720 And he praised both men.

00:09:22.600 Now, Marco Rubio's story is an amazing one.

00:09:25.080 Here's a senator who has a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee signed their their Fugazi report, insisting there was Russian collusion, which he should not have done.

00:09:35.880 He's also the man who I think, with or without his authorization, the Steele dossier was first concocted by Fusion GPS.

00:09:44.840 Yeah, see, those guys, the guys who made up the Steele dossier and sold it to Hillary for millions and they tried to disguise it as legal fees.

00:09:52.700 And they sold it first, I believe, in a Paul Singer funded a gambit to help Marco Rubio.

00:10:01.980 Now, what Rubio knew and when he knew it is hard to say.

00:10:06.560 Rubio was always a neocon Trump Republican, pardon me, a Bush Republican.

00:10:13.660 And the Bush people felt some control over him because they had helped him overcome sitting Governor Charlie Criss.

00:10:22.840 Charlie Criss, an interesting chameleon, a guy who has held office as both a Republican and a Democrat, but run for federal office as a Republican and independent and a Democrat.

00:10:35.180 A man who once called himself a Reagan Republican today who says he's an Obama Democrat.

00:10:39.620 A man who was once staunch supporter of the Second Amendment and fire rights arms who now believes we need a deep gun control.

00:10:50.100 A man who was once pro-life, who is now pro-choice.

00:10:53.800 But he remains kind of a charming rogester and a great politician in terms of remembering your name and your wife's name.

00:11:01.080 I mean, his candidacy crashed and burned.

00:11:05.760 Rubio very wisely kind of grabbed the Tea Party wave that year.

00:11:10.240 So many perceive him as more conservative than he is.

00:11:13.340 But where he has really been wise after his own run for president, where he and Trump had very sharp words,

00:11:20.980 is he used his opposition to communism in this hemisphere and his stout opposition to Cuba and activities in Honduras and, of course, Venezuela and elsewhere in the Caribbean

00:11:34.960 to repair his personal relationship with President Trump.

00:11:39.960 When he was serving the Senate, they did a lot of legislative things together to fight the Marxists and the narco traffickers in this hemisphere. 0.97

00:11:48.800 And he's done an extraordinarily good job as as a secretary of state.

00:11:55.700 But he is he's implementing the policies of Donald Trump, not necessarily the policies of Marco Rubio.

00:12:01.980 And for that, I give him full credit.

00:12:04.440 He's a he's a different man than he was.

00:12:06.280 Or perhaps he's he's seen by proof that endless war and the the politics of regime change that the Bushes and the globalists cling to just in the end will work.

00:12:21.460 I don't think he's running for president, though, in a conversation, private conversation.

00:12:25.060 But he said the same thing privately, has no plans to run for president.

00:12:27.980 I believe he says publicly that he's committed to J.D. Vance, who he believes will be the nominee.

00:12:33.640 So it's hard to backpedal from that.

00:12:36.600 But President Trump's got the idea.

00:12:39.020 You see, he says, well, what we need is a J.D. Vance Marco ticket.

00:12:43.840 Now, there's a very interesting idea.

00:12:46.200 I believe Marco, if he was called on by the party and the president to run, would do so.

00:12:50.600 But remember, he went from the state legislature to to to they went from college to state legislature, the state legislature to the to the speakership, from the speakership to the U.S. Senate.

00:13:03.240 And he has made no honest money.

00:13:06.200 And being in public office, he very limited, obviously, in what he can pay and what he can do.

00:13:11.180 He has kids in private schools.

00:13:13.260 So in the end, I don't think he runs.

00:13:14.900 But we'll talk about the jockey for 2028 when we come right back here in the Stone Zone.

00:13:22.540 Looking for financial insights you can trust?

00:13:25.300 How do you protect yourself as an investor?

00:13:27.320 What's the strategy?

00:13:28.220 I think it's really simple.

00:13:29.280 I think you just want to be diversified in your portfolio.

00:13:32.040 The Payne family brings real world experience to every conversation.

00:13:36.280 Well, I think that's the problem right now is, right?

00:13:37.580 A lot of people that are close to retirement, they're taking so much risks.

00:13:41.160 And if we do get a big sell off, it could derail their retirement.

00:13:44.460 Listen to The Payne Points of Wealth on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:13:50.520 The Stone Zone.

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00:14:00.480 There's a lot of candidates talking about 2028, though.

00:14:03.980 It's not just all talk about J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

00:14:09.960 Ted Cruz, who was kind of the last man standing,

00:14:13.940 is clearly slithering about trying to put together some kind of insurgent candidacy.

00:14:20.080 Governor Ron DeSantis and his wife just got an extraordinary break.

00:14:23.720 The Justice Department announced that they would not proceed against them for

00:14:27.500 illegally taking $10 million from federal Medicare funds and funneling it to their

00:14:33.220 dark money political committee to fund campaign activities against two ballot initiatives that

00:14:40.120 the DeSantis' opposed.

00:14:43.000 Cleared with them was the attorney general, who was then the governor's chief of staff.

00:14:49.100 This is shocking to me because this money was earmarked for the poor, the elderly, and the

00:14:54.920 handicapped.

00:14:55.800 And it's a very clear diversion of federal funds that came in the form of a fine to Medicare.

00:15:05.760 But it's a huge break that it won't be prosecuted for DeSantis because it did, I think.

00:15:12.360 Because it got so much cover in state legislative hearings,

00:15:16.580 And I saw all of the documents were published online there.

00:15:20.960 The DeSantis' Hope Project seemed to, you know, have been used illegally for political

00:15:28.060 purposes and done so with our tax dollars.

00:15:30.840 And then, of course, there's Stinky Steve Vannon.

00:15:33.260 He's the Epstein collaborator and unrepentant fraudster.

00:15:38.240 This is a guy who pled guilty to embezzling $15 million from the Build the Wall non-profit.

00:15:45.180 That's the little old ladies who send $75 to build the wall, who pleads guilty in liberal 1.00

00:15:51.840 New York.

00:15:52.400 But then, unlike his two co-conspirators who get long prison sentences, he serves no jail

00:16:00.180 time.

00:16:01.220 Donald Trump will be in no hurry to relinquish the only ring in a one-ring circus.

00:16:10.220 And whether he endorses a candidate, I think he probably endorses a candidate.

00:16:14.400 But he will do so late.

00:16:16.740 He is known to have a high regard for both as vice president and, of course, Tulsi Gabbard

00:16:22.400 has to be considered in any equation.

00:16:25.680 When we come back, I'm going to talk about Tulsi Gabbard and the issue of election integrity

00:16:31.020 because the president has indeed charged her with getting to the bottom of both the paper

00:16:36.520 ballots and the machines.

00:16:37.560 I did an interview with Eric McTaxa and I'll tell you the truth.

00:16:42.260 I think I misspoke or I should have communicated a little better.

00:16:46.900 So I'm going to clarify my shocking remarks with remarks that are still shocking when we

00:16:52.680 come back in the stone zone.

00:16:54.520 I do think that there needs to be a fair reexamination of both the mail-in ballots and all the shenanigans

00:17:02.140 that went on around that.

00:17:04.100 The raid on the Fulton County Elections Board warehouse is appropriate because the DOJ asked

00:17:11.480 for the material twice and the FBI asked for it a third time and the local government thumbed

00:17:16.940 their nose at the federal government.

00:17:18.460 It doesn't really work that way.

00:17:20.460 Now, what did they find in those records?

00:17:23.780 They're now, I'm told, in the custody of the FBI and those who are experts in election integrity

00:17:32.380 are working hand-in-hand with experienced FBI agents to examine all of that material.

00:17:37.860 So I think that that's going to be very, very revealing.

00:17:42.960 We'll be back to talk about all of it right here in the stone zone.

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00:18:02.800 This is Roger Stone, and you have jumped right back into the stone zone.

00:18:07.100 You know, if the Democrats have a front runner for 2028, I think on paper, at least, it's

00:18:14.540 clearly Gavin Newsom.

00:18:16.520 Now, Gavin Newsom, as the sitting governor, can extort tens of millions of dollars in campaign

00:18:23.040 contributions from all of the special interests in the state of California.

00:18:27.340 And he himself is a Getty.

00:18:29.800 He is a fabulous personal wealth.

00:18:32.680 So he can finance his own campaign, as Arnold Schwarzenegger did, for example.

00:18:39.940 His problem, of course, is back home.

00:18:42.360 I mean, between taxes and rise in crime and epic corruption, homelessness, drug addiction,

00:18:51.360 and just destroying the state under his soft on crime, pro-criminal policies, I'm not sure

00:19:01.060 what he could run out of.

00:19:02.440 But now a massive fraud scandal tied to California's homeless spending is raising even more serious

00:19:10.080 questions about oversight, political favoritism, and the stewardship of billions of taxpayer

00:19:16.200 dollars under both Gavin Newsom and the Los Angeles Democrats.

00:19:20.840 Federal prosecutors have charged a man named Cody Holmes, the former CFO of Los Angeles-based

00:19:28.080 Shangri-La Industries, with mail fraud after he allegedly embezzled more than $2 million intended

00:19:34.900 for homeless housing.

00:19:36.660 Authorities say the money is funded a lavish lifestyle that included a $46,000 Beverly Hills

00:19:43.980 mansion, private jet travel, luxury vehicles, designer handbags, and VIP passes to the, yes,

00:19:53.380 the Coachella Music Festival.

00:19:56.300 The scandal deepens as records show the company executives donated billions to Newsom and, of

00:20:03.220 course, the local Democrat machine, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Zoe Lufgren, the Diane 0.97

00:20:12.720 Feinstein, and the likes.

00:20:16.540 Prosecutors allege in this case that Holmes fabricated bank statements and falsely claimed

00:20:23.060 that the firm controlled $160 million in assets when investigators found only $24,000 in cash

00:20:31.040 on hand.

00:20:32.240 So despite the explosive allegations, Newsom's office has not indicated whether it will return

00:20:38.180 the campaign donations connected to the developer, nor has it classified whether the governor

00:20:43.700 still stands by his fast, past, complete, full-throated endorsement of this company.

00:20:51.060 Meanwhile, subtractors report millions in unpaid bills.

00:20:54.620 Some of these are small business owners on the edge saying their pleas for help from state

00:20:59.660 and local officials have been completely unanswered.

00:21:02.500 This is a burgeoning future scandal for a man who wants to be president.

00:21:07.840 Lou Barnett, who is a longtime Republican operative and activist and a good friend of mine, he told

00:21:15.400 me months ago that this scandal around Newsom will just get larger and larger media.

00:21:22.500 We're just talking about millions missing in one particular area, housing, but there's evidence

00:21:28.040 of even greater fraud, and therefore you don't know how Newsom can run with a straight face

00:21:36.020 given his impact.

00:21:37.020 But as he's shown in his debates with Ron DeSantis, he's a very cagey guy.

00:21:41.520 He's got great hair.

00:21:43.480 He knows how to kind of float like a butterfly, sting like a bee in these debates.

00:21:48.820 He has no problem lying.

00:21:50.680 He dodged a bullet when Kamala Harris, I think he did not dodge a bullet when Kamala Harris

00:22:00.560 said she would not run for governor.

00:22:03.500 I think that he was hoping she would run for governor and therefore not run for president

00:22:11.060 again.

00:22:11.660 I think she's making quiet noises about running for president again.

00:22:14.940 Now, you may think that's crazy given her, shall we say, uneven performance and all of 0.99

00:22:21.020 that giggling and what appears to me in a number of videos to be under some kind of controlled

00:22:28.740 substance of a presidential campaign that borrowed billions of dollars and then did something

00:22:35.240 I've never seen before.

00:22:36.300 Go to all these big pop names that are incredibly popular and pay them tens of millions of dollars

00:22:43.900 to appear at public events to draw a crowd.

00:22:46.580 Why?

00:22:47.340 Because nobody would come to an event for Kamala Harris that was open to the public.

00:22:54.120 That's the dirty little secret.

00:22:55.640 I've actually never seen that.

00:22:56.900 So if Lionel Hampton played an event for Richard Nixon in Manhattan, which he once famously did,

00:23:04.280 no one is paying Lionel.

00:23:06.460 Lionel is donating his services.

00:23:10.060 That's the way it has always worked.

00:23:14.980 So there's no idea here about why this was structured in this way.

00:23:22.060 I don't know that AOC herself does not run, only because she and her now white political 0.70

00:23:33.240 consultant husband who's in the campaign business, who ran her campaign in the past, I think she

00:23:43.100 realizes that she can raise millions and millions of low and middle dollar contributions, both

00:23:49.820 legally and through ActBlue.

00:23:52.520 ActBlue is the famous, notorious Democrat payment processing app for which I believe there's an

00:24:01.080 enormous amount of evidence they have laundered millions of dollars.

00:24:04.120 It's called Smurfing, where ActBlue turns off the address confirmation requirement for credit

00:24:11.840 card purchases and people using bank cards they buy at drugstores or short-term credit cards

00:24:19.960 purchase online.

00:24:22.780 I think that I think that's what's going on there.

00:24:27.200 And they've always been extraordinarily strong.

00:24:31.100 In any event, the major institutions are starting to reverse positions on gender surgery.

00:24:36.700 This comes, of course, in the in the wake of Donald Trump keeping his commitment and doing

00:24:40.900 everything possible under federal law and executive authority to ban men playing in women's sports.

00:24:47.380 It's the craziest idea I've ever heard.

00:24:49.420 Now, two of the country's most powerful medical organizations are signaling a major shift in

00:24:55.820 the debate over so-called gender affirming care for minors.

00:24:59.440 Gender affirming care.

00:25:00.660 See, this is the lexicon of the Alinsky left.

00:25:04.040 Always give it some soft description that is not really what it is.

00:25:09.520 Medical session has endorsed delaying genital mutilation surgeries now for transgenders until adulthood

00:25:15.500 coming one day after the American Society of Plastic Surgeons recommended postponing

00:25:20.160 breast, genital, and facial surgeries until at least age 19.

00:25:24.660 I think this is very positive.

00:25:26.420 I don't think a kid can decide who they are at 14 or 13.

00:25:29.740 I think their parents, in many cases, maybe for politically correct reasons, are deciding

00:25:34.820 for them.

00:25:35.480 These are very solid movements, I think, to bring sanity back to our policy.

00:25:40.120 Now, the recommendations are not binding, but it's a clear sign that the medical establishments

00:25:44.780 beginning to reconsider barbaric practices that advance because of ideology rather than

00:25:51.140 legitimate medicine.

00:25:52.680 I'm not opposed to civil rights laws that protect gay and lesbian people, but that's not what

00:25:58.240 this is about, not in the slightest.

00:26:01.420 This shift is particularly notable given that the AMA strengthened its support for gender-related

00:26:07.400 care as recently as 2023.

00:26:09.180 Now, the organization seems to be drawing a line around permanent surgical interventions

00:26:14.780 that leave victims scarred, physically destroyed, and the suicide rate, among whom, is just

00:26:21.140 unacceptably high.

00:26:22.820 Policy changes follow a landmark malpractice verdict.

00:26:26.100 Very recently there in New York, I read about this, where a jury awarded $2 million to a young

00:26:30.340 woman who underwent top surgery, meaning her breasts were carved off by surgeons.

00:26:35.060 At the age of 16, jurors found clinicians failed to adequately disclose the risks, alternatives,

00:26:40.900 and long-term impacts.

00:26:42.240 The patient later detransitioned and testified she felt disfigured for life, establishing a

00:26:47.660 precedent that doctors now can actually face serious liability when minors are put under

00:26:53.680 the knife by their parents in some depraved fashion.

00:26:57.220 For years, medical experts and advocacy groups warned that long-term data on identities was still

00:27:04.160 developing, may not be equipped to make permanent decisions regarding their gender.

00:27:08.240 Now, with major institutions finally reconsidering their approach and the courts holding providers

00:27:14.480 accountable, the country is witnessing a long-overdue course correction.

00:27:17.820 But it's not enough.

00:27:19.080 The modern-day Mengele's who have subjected children to procedures must be charged for crimes against 1.00

00:27:26.260 humanity.

00:27:27.000 This is about children.

00:27:27.960 What people who are 18 and over, who can make their own legal decisions, may do so.

00:27:35.140 But this is a very tiny percentage of our country.

00:27:38.580 I don't know why we continue to agenda fight.

00:27:41.820 I, of course, am half Italian, half Hungarian, as most people know.

00:27:46.700 I'm Italian from the waist down, but I'm proud of my Hungarian heritage.

00:27:51.280 My grandmother was a kardos. 0.99

00:27:52.940 She later remarried, and she was a mezzo.

00:27:56.940 And I'm a big, big fan of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, the head of Hungary's

00:28:03.060 April 21 national election, praising the longtime ally as a truly strong and powerful leader,

00:28:09.900 highlighting what he called unprecedented cooperation between two nations.

00:28:13.120 He recognized that Orban has banned George Soros and his dirty money from their country,

00:28:19.080 in an effort to overturn his government.

00:28:22.600 The left continues to say that he's a dictator, but he's elected in fair democratic elections,

00:28:29.000 and he's not a globalist.

00:28:31.880 He does not allow mass open borders integration in Hungary.

00:28:36.320 It's one of the reasons why the country is so safe.

00:28:39.840 So this is great, because I think it signals continued alignment between the two governments.

00:28:45.400 Trump previously endorsed Orban in 2022, said he's honored to do so again.

00:28:51.080 Hungary heads into what analysts describe his most competitive election there,

00:28:56.540 and Soros will pour millions into the country.

00:28:59.960 Soros cannot enter Hungary, or he will be arrested as a warrant out for him.

00:29:04.700 Also true, I believe, of his son.

00:29:07.020 So Trump's endorsement really comes at a very key time,

00:29:10.960 where the nations are aligning.

00:29:15.020 Trump is making important alliances, like, for example, Javier Millet.

00:29:20.400 Millet will be in Palm Beach next week.

00:29:24.160 I'll be with him again.

00:29:25.440 He's a good friend.

00:29:26.360 I met him back when he was just kind of a, shall we say, an eccentric economist.

00:29:32.420 And he was a congressman first.

00:29:37.000 That's when I first saw his enormous talent and his deep commitment to libertarian principles,

00:29:42.780 and particularly cutting waste and cutting taxes.

00:29:48.000 And he understood that communism and socialism do not work.

00:29:52.200 They cannot work for the people, that only raw capitalism, free enterprise,

00:29:58.340 can lift the Hungarian people.

00:30:00.720 Hungary, of course, first occupied by the Nazis in a quite brutal fashion,

00:30:09.060 then occupied by the Russians after the jaded deal at Yalta.

00:30:15.740 Franklin Roosevelt allowed Joseph Stalin and communist Russia to control all of Eastern Europe,

00:30:23.960 which is one of his greatest single mistakes.

00:30:27.140 This created what is known as the Iron Curtain.

00:30:29.580 And that's what Winston Churchill denounced it as at the time that it was set up.

00:30:36.540 And they have obviously moved now to a full democracy.

00:30:41.160 The Hungarian left is very vicious. 1.00

00:30:44.420 And Soros has deep roots in the state.

00:30:47.280 But the government of Orban has been strong.

00:30:52.040 This new endorsement comes as part of Hungary joins the whole movement to protect persecuted Christians

00:31:01.300 and other religious minorities around the world.

00:31:03.700 This is a growing issue.

00:31:06.100 You saw the Congo recently saying that they would do so, for example.

00:31:13.140 And the president is drawing a hard line against it in his remarks at the Rare Earth Minerals Conference.

00:31:25.040 Donald Trump has realized that the Chinese have been trying to corner the market on about 80 percent of the things we need to make,

00:31:32.220 not just cell phones and car parts, but to make fighter jets and tanks and airplanes.

00:31:40.280 And we are playing catch-up ball.

00:31:43.040 But the president gets it.

00:31:44.440 He's being very aggressive.

00:31:46.620 The government's making some investments in companies, but they're also helping deals coming together.

00:31:51.440 Now J.D. Vance says the country's going to build a stockpile, a stockpile, a national stockpile of these Rare Earth elements to protect our future.

00:32:00.360 He said that in a great speech a couple days ago.

00:32:03.760 This is someplace where we have been asleep.

00:32:06.220 The Chinese in Africa, in Central America, in South America, even in Asia, have really cornered the market on these vital Rare Earth Minerals.

00:32:17.200 It's about national security.

00:32:19.120 I'm Roger Stone.

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00:32:35.820 Well, the spotlight is once again on Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

00:32:41.840 She's now been caught in yet another scam.

00:32:44.660 The questions are mounting about her finances from the beginning.

00:32:48.200 She came to public office literally, I think, with $450 in the bank, and today she is worth tens of millions.

00:32:57.520 And she is, of course, very closely tied to this Somali social spending scandal that is unfolding in Minnesota.

00:33:08.480 This is one of the great grifts of all time where the Somali community used these federal programs for child daycare centers, senior citizen transportation centers, and other COVID-related programs where nobody actually provided any service. 1.00

00:33:27.080 Some of this money actually made its way back to the ISIS offshoot that is still, unfortunately, active in Somalia.

00:33:38.160 So this is a, and this burgeoning scandal just continues to grow.

00:33:43.640 In this particular case, the investigation surrounds a winery that was co-owned by her husband.

00:33:50.640 He is a non-Somalian named Timothy Minette.

00:33:54.340 Seems to also be her political guru.

00:33:56.160 According to Angela Rose, a journalist, a visit to the listed Santa Rosa, California address revealed serious inconsistencies suggest the business may exist largely on paper rather than in reality, which, of course, would be against the law.

00:34:12.960 The revenue reports jumped from roughly $15,000 in 2024, as much as $5 million in 2025, despite any little evidence of any actual wine production allegedly existing.

00:34:29.540 These are public documents.

00:34:30.800 Even more troubling, Rose said no business license could be found for the operation at the listed address while neighboring wineries were all properly registered.

00:34:41.280 The owner reportedly confirmed that more than 40 wineries operate from this location.

00:34:48.380 The neighbors in all of the adjoining buildings say they've never seen any business activities at these closed warehouses.

00:34:57.740 This is kind of the way the grift is working.

00:35:02.740 I saw a great report with a citizen journalist who visited 26 of these Somali-backed social service sites, and he did it over three days, a three-day weekend.

00:35:15.880 He went morning, noon, and night in a rotation, and at no time did he see any children or any people, never mind any Somalians.

00:35:25.860 The real question here, of course, is what Governor Tim Walsh know, and when did he know it?

00:35:33.560 That is the sort of Damocles that I think the Trump Justice Department can hold over his head.

00:35:39.860 If he knew this fraud was going on and he didn't identify it to federal officials, he would be seriously, legally vulnerable.

00:35:48.780 So there is that question.

00:35:54.620 I'm not sure whether we see charges in this case, but it seems very, very likely to me.

00:36:03.540 The Democrats, of course, anytime Donald Trump wants to hold somebody liable for violating the law or the Constitution

00:36:10.920 and their manic, illegal, driven zeal to destroy him, they say, oh, it's revenge and retaliation.

00:36:19.480 No, it is justice and accountability.

00:36:24.000 Thanks for listening to The Stone Zone.

00:36:26.360 We're getting into some of the in-depth politics now in Washington.

00:36:31.180 It's going to be interesting to look at this presidential race.

00:36:34.400 I don't think that there's any dent in Donald Trump's strength.

00:36:39.360 And those who underwrite the 2026 election misunderstand that as the events in Butler, Pennsylvania,

00:36:46.860 or the events after the nuclear strikes in Iran prove that the president has great strength going into the 2026 election.

00:36:58.560 Fundamental backdrop is there.

00:37:00.820 The Big Beautiful Bill gave you the deepest tax cuts in American history.

00:37:04.400 They will continue.

00:37:05.640 Regulatory cuts doing away the tax on tips.

00:37:08.960 And 88% of Social Security recipients who now pay taxes will no longer pay taxes on your Social Security checks.

00:37:17.800 So Trump is delivering.

00:37:19.580 And 2026 is a battle yet to come.

00:37:22.780 Thanks for joining us today in The Stone Zone.

00:37:24.660 Until we meet again, God bless you and Godspeed.

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