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The Stone Zone ｜ 02-12-26


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Jack Kemp was an American politician who served as a member of Congress from New York from 1965 to 1987. He was a fierce advocate of Ronald Reagan's economic policies, which were adopted by him as he ran for president in 1988. Kemp was also a champion of civil rights and civil liberties.

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00:00:00.140 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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00:00:11.960 This past Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday, I called for Congressman Jack Kemp
00:00:18.000 to be inducted into the very prestigious Football Hall of Fame.
00:00:24.280 Not only did Jack Kemp as a politician have a profound effect on the trajectory of America
00:00:32.000 because it was his advocacy of growth side economics that were adopted by presidential candidate Ronald Reagan
00:00:42.680 and ended up giving America unprecedented prosperity, but his football career was quite extraordinary.
00:00:52.600 He was first drafted by the Detroit Lions in 1957.
00:00:57.120 Early on, he kind of struggled to find stability, bouncing around, playing for the San Diego Chargers
00:01:04.600 before ending up with the Buffalo Bills.
00:01:09.240 Then leading the Bills to two consecutive AFL championships,
00:01:14.580 he himself being recognized as the most valuable player.
00:01:18.740 Kemp's heroics on display during that 1964 AFL championship
00:01:25.980 when they faced against his former team, the Chargers.
00:01:30.080 The Chargers, as I recall, were expected to rout the Bills
00:01:33.560 with their head coach, Sid Gilman's revolutionary passing attack and their edge over experience.
00:01:40.760 But the Bills proved surprisingly formidable.
00:01:44.340 Kemp etched his way into the annals of football history by leading the Bills to a 27-7 win.
00:01:51.980 The next year saw the AFL title rematch between the Chargers and the Bills.
00:01:57.180 And once again, the margin of victory was even more lopsided.
00:02:00.680 The Bills defeated the Chargers by 23-0 margin, running the favored team out of the building.
00:02:07.460 Kemp, that year, won the most valuable player for the championship game
00:02:12.360 after receiving the most valuable player honors during the regular season.
00:02:16.520 He shared that honor with all-time greats of the NFL like Terry Bradshaw,
00:02:21.040 Joe Montana, Emmitt Smith, and Patrick Mahomes.
00:02:25.280 So I think it is long past the time that Jack Kemp should be in the Football Hall of Fame.
00:02:31.680 I first met Jack Kemp in 1972.
00:02:36.100 I was working for the committee to re-elect the president.
00:02:40.020 I was a surrogate scheduler.
00:02:42.720 And I had been assigned Kemp as one of the active Nixon re-election surrogates.
00:02:51.200 Kemp had worked as an intern in the office of Governor Ronald Reagan
00:02:57.160 and was a favorite of Reagan.
00:03:00.620 There would be a later controversy regarding that.
00:03:05.580 But then he fell under the wing of Herb Kline,
00:03:09.180 who was President Richard Nixon's campaign and administration communications advisor.
00:03:16.200 And Kemp would ultimately seek a congressional seat in 1970
00:03:22.780 in a district, a blue-collar district, right outside of Buffalo.
00:03:30.300 Kemp was an outspoken advocate for civil rights.
00:03:35.320 He was one of the major sponsors of making Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday a holiday.
00:03:42.840 He was for a broader, more inclusive Republican Party
00:03:46.860 that reached out specifically to African Americans.
00:03:51.200 But more importantly, he revolutionized our thinking about taxes.
00:03:57.360 It was Jack Kemp or the small band of others like consultant Jude Wineski
00:04:04.180 and a young Larry Kudlow, Jeffrey Bell, and others
00:04:10.480 who realized that based on history,
00:04:14.280 deep federal income tax cuts resulted in spurts of revenue.
00:04:19.900 In other words, a rising tide lifts boats.
00:04:23.480 If taxes are lower, more people are working.
00:04:26.420 Therefore, more people are paying taxes and government revenues go up.
00:04:30.660 I know it is the orthodoxy of the left who say that,
00:04:35.400 no, that's not how it works.
00:04:38.540 These tax cuts are responsible for the deficits.
00:04:41.660 They're not.
00:04:42.340 Let's listen to this Jack Kemp presidential commercial
00:04:46.860 because Jack ran in 1988.
00:04:49.100 And when we come back, we'll talk about
00:04:50.940 why this great conservative did not catch fire as our nominee.
00:04:55.860 In 1980, Jack Kemp proposed a 30% tax cut
00:05:00.700 while Dole opposed it.
00:05:02.460 And George Bush called it voodoo economics.
00:05:04.900 But Kemp kept fighting.
00:05:06.360 And in 1981, President Reagan signed the Kemp Roth tax cut into law.
00:05:10.860 The very next year, Bush and Dole supported
00:05:13.460 the largest tax increase in U.S. history.
00:05:15.780 And now they've raised taxes again.
00:05:17.420 As president, you can count on Jack Kemp to say no to higher taxes.
00:05:23.040 Jack Kemp.
00:05:24.120 If he wins, we all win.
00:05:27.740 So Kemp was endorsed Reagan early.
00:05:32.360 I think helped sell him on the positive, upbeat message of economic growth
00:05:37.640 and moving the Republican Party away from being the party of austerity and cutting.
00:05:44.300 And I think he revitalized the party.
00:05:46.780 It's very interesting that Donald Trump has adapted the same growth economics.
00:05:52.540 You can see that in the big, beautiful bill.
00:05:54.680 And you can see it in his anti-regulatory policies.
00:05:59.900 Many people thought that Jack Kemp, upstate congressman,
00:06:03.720 who had worked so hard to elect Reagan,
00:06:06.360 would have been the ideal vice presidential candidate for Reagan.
00:06:11.520 And in fact, interestingly enough,
00:06:13.300 after Reagan had been nominated at the convention,
00:06:19.060 I was working as a regional political director for the Northeast,
00:06:23.320 handling New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
00:06:25.860 And all of the directors and sub-directors, about 27 people,
00:06:31.400 top political staff, were called to a session in which Governor Reagan came in
00:06:36.720 and thanked us for our hard work since he had been nominated the night before.
00:06:41.080 And when he came in, Andy Carter, who had been with Reagan all the way back to Reagan's nascent 1968
00:06:50.480 kind of furtive effort in which many people don't realize that he showed up at the 1968 convention,
00:06:57.340 Miami Beach, as a favorite Sun candidate,
00:07:00.320 but that on the urging of some, he became a full-fledged candidate,
00:07:05.500 could not break into Nixon's firewall in the South
00:07:09.460 and stall Nixon's comeback nomination on the first ballot.
00:07:13.580 But Carter had a relationship such that he said,
00:07:17.080 Ron, I would never think to call the governor Ron,
00:07:20.640 we'd like to talk about the vice presidency.
00:07:23.800 And Mike Deaver, who was kind of the body man and deputy chief of staff and handler for Reagan,
00:07:31.880 said, no, we're not here for Q&A.
00:07:34.960 But Reagan said, wait a minute, Mike, I'd like to hear what these fellas have to say.
00:07:40.060 So everybody was seated, and Governor Reagan listened,
00:07:45.020 and we went around the room, and each person said who they thought
00:07:48.280 should be the vice presidential nominee and why. 0.99
00:07:52.280 What's interesting is that the majority of those present said that Jack Kemp should be the nominee,
00:07:59.960 that he was the natural heir to the California-based, upbeat, optimistic, pro-growth agenda
00:08:10.000 that Reagan had embraced.
00:08:12.920 Others thought that Paul Laxalt, who was the chairman of Reagan's 1976 and his 1980 campaign,
00:08:20.280 a very solid guy, had been both governor of Nevada,
00:08:25.020 at the same time Reagan was governor of California,
00:08:27.840 they became quite close,
00:08:29.900 and then later was elected to the U.S. Senate.
00:08:33.420 I loved Laxalt.
00:08:35.040 He was a truly great man, a hardcore conservative.
00:08:38.520 But the geography in those days mattered more,
00:08:42.280 and I thought having Nevada and California, two Westerners, made less sense.
00:08:48.340 Trump from upstate New York was both a good geographic balance.
00:08:53.660 But I think his chances were destroyed when the Bush people passed a rumor that was completely false.
00:09:01.020 During Reagan's governorship, there had been a scandal in which several members of his staff
00:09:05.800 were accused of having a homosexual relationship,
00:09:10.960 which in the 1960s was extraordinarily coincidental.
00:09:15.820 Trump has no involvement with these events, which were chronicled by Lynn Nofsiger and others.
00:09:23.700 But it was always a smear.
00:09:26.580 It was, oh, Jack has issues.
00:09:28.480 Jack had no issues.
00:09:29.620 He was happily married to Joanne Trump.
00:09:32.240 But I think the Bush people peddled this.
00:09:35.520 It bubbled up in some Evans and Novak columns as a way to knock them down.
00:09:40.820 But that's political poison.
00:09:44.260 Jack Kemp was always more interested in the ideas than he was in promoting himself.
00:09:51.520 There was a selflessness for him.
00:09:54.340 He traveled 256 days a year speaking for the party,
00:10:00.080 speaking for candidates, but always preaching an optimistic, positive, upbeat message of economic growth
00:10:10.020 and fighting those in the party who felt that austerity was the way to go.
00:10:18.240 It is really time to put him in the, particularly post-Super Bowl, in the football hall of fame.
00:10:27.900 Meanwhile, Donald Trump continues to just sue these multi-billion dollar fake news outfits with defamation lawsuits.
00:10:36.560 His latest one against the vile British Broadcasting Corporation is officially headed to trial,
00:10:43.120 marking a major legal showdown between the former commander in chief and the fake news.
00:10:49.680 The BBC had moved to dismiss the case and the courts refused to do so.
00:10:54.280 I made the mistake when I was speaking to the Oxford Union to doing a show on BBC
00:11:01.780 in which some hack accused me of a Russian collusion,
00:11:08.620 getting his information evidently from the Huffington Post.
00:11:12.460 Anything who knows about me and the course that I've been on,
00:11:16.240 the government never produced any evidence whatsoever of Russian collusion
00:11:20.280 or WikiLeaks collaboration against me.
00:11:23.840 They framed me up in some process crimes, but this was a total smackdown.
00:11:28.880 You can probably still find it on YouTube.
00:11:31.860 It was one of their livelier personalities.
00:11:34.580 I had to put him down quite hard in his line of accusations based on nothing.
00:11:41.400 The BBC is kind of like the CNN of Britain, and as I have said, I don't get my news from the toilet
00:11:50.140 for the same reason I don't, you know, get my news from CNN, or perhaps it's the other way around.
00:11:57.160 In any event, it's interesting when you look at the numbers, CNN, MSNBC, even News Nation,
00:12:04.560 their numbers are down as more and more people go directly to the Internet for their news.
00:12:11.080 And cable appears to me to go in the way of broadcast.
00:12:14.900 Broadcast television, ABC, NBC, CBS, used to dominate communications in the country until the advent of cable.
00:12:24.780 Cable changed all of that, diminished the strength of the broadcast outlets,
00:12:30.880 unless, of course, they're being seen online.
00:12:32.980 More people now, thanks to Elon Musk, who's done more for the First Amendment and free speech than anyone
00:12:39.920 other than the founding fathers, more and more people get their unfiltered information on the Internet.
00:12:47.660 Even on the Internet, you have to be careful of fake news.
00:12:51.380 Donald Trump is suing BBC because they manipulated videos of Trump's speech
00:12:57.100 to try to give it a negative cast pertaining to January 6th.
00:13:01.320 I have a feeling that BBC will be writing a very, very large check to Donald J. Trump shortly.
00:13:08.660 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to Stone Zone, and we'll be right back.
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00:13:22.320 Earlier on, we were talking about my good friend, Jack French Kemp.
00:13:27.660 He, of course, was an American politician, former professional football quarterback,
00:13:32.580 and one of the most influential champions of free market economics and modern conservative politics.
00:13:38.260 He was born in L.A., first made his name not in politics but on the football field, as I say,
00:13:43.220 played quarterback for the Buffalo Bills of the American Football League,
00:13:47.180 as I said earlier, led them to two championships, was the most valuable player two years in a row.
00:13:55.000 But it was after he retired from football that he transitioned to public service,
00:13:58.520 was elected, as I say, in 1970 when Jim Buckley was sweeping a U.S. Senate seat in upstate New York,
00:14:05.880 a district outside of Buffalo, where he became a leading voice for what would later be known as supply-side economics.
00:14:13.520 In other words, advocating tax cuts, economic growth, and opportunity-based policies.
00:14:19.700 Kemp was a huge influence on Reagan and a key architect of the landmark 1981 tax cuts under President Ronald Reagan,
00:14:29.700 helping shape the whole economic philosophy that we now know as Reaganomics.
00:14:35.460 Reaganomics is practiced by Donald J. Trump.
00:14:39.020 Now, Trump's, Jack Kemp's focus was consistent, expand economic opportunity,
00:14:45.260 reduce government barriers, and promote growth as a path to empowerment.
00:14:50.160 1988, of course, Kemp ran for president, emphasizing optimism, urban outreach, and inclusive conservatism.
00:14:58.500 I was proud to support him and work for him in that failed effort.
00:15:04.980 But Bush, Reagan, Bush had become kind of, I should say, stampeded into the minds of the primary electorate,
00:15:15.340 and Jack's candidacy did not take off.
00:15:18.960 He would later serve as the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under George H.W. Bush,
00:15:24.640 where he pushed for emphasized zones, and, of course, in 1996, probably his finest hour,
00:15:30.820 Kemp was the Republican chosen by Senator Bob Dole to run for vice president.
00:15:36.900 Now, Dole carried more states in his run against Clinton than George H.W. Bush did as an incumbent.
00:15:44.640 And Dole and Kemp put on a hard-driving campaign in which they won more states and almost three million more votes
00:15:55.460 than Bush and his running mate had run four years earlier.
00:16:01.320 Throughout his entire career, Kemp stood out for his energetic and also endless speaking style.
00:16:07.900 Well, he was known to be long-winded on the stump because he worked hard to convince you about the American dream and economic mobility.
00:16:19.080 He passed away in 2009, but his influence on the country continues, and therefore I reached the conclusion,
00:16:25.960 not just should he be in the Football Hall of Fame,
00:16:28.500 but he should now posthumously be given the Medal of Freedom by President Donald Trump.
00:16:36.280 He exemplifies the pro-growth, pro-family, pro-middle-class Reaganomics that is now Trump's major lodestone.
00:16:48.360 It is time to honor the man who made all of this come together.
00:16:52.700 That would be Congressman Jack Kemp.
00:16:54.840 We'll be right back.
00:16:58.500 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:17:09.800 Well, it looks like hard economic reality has hit Mayor Zoran Mamdami.
00:17:15.760 The New York City mayor is now already walking back.
00:17:19.220 What I remember is a major campaign promise as the hard economic economy and economic situation sets in.
00:17:28.500 Just weeks into his tenure, the self-described socialist announced that he will not support expanding the city's FH-EPS rental assistance program,
00:17:39.300 a massive initiative already costing taxpayers between one and more than a billion dollars.
00:17:47.920 Pardon me.
00:17:49.400 Mamdami cited a looming $7 billion budget deficit over the next two years.
00:17:55.040 He acknowledges that he simply cannot afford the expansion he once championed.
00:17:59.300 His supporters are going to be into understanding that he is not a deity and that he will not be able to deliver on a free this and free that.
00:18:09.540 During the campaign, Mamdami vowed to ensure the program grew as scheduled and per city law.
00:18:16.200 Now, however, his administration is negotiating with progressive activists to settle a lawsuit that sought to force that very expansion and a betrayal to the socialist principles he embodied on the campaign trail.
00:18:30.680 City Hall is simply trying to balance homelessness prevention with a responsible and sustainable budget.
00:18:37.840 But Mamdami's betrayal of his base on this issue is already creating fiction on the left as his jilted comrades are unhappy.
00:18:47.300 He will find that when you get fanatics like these, they are never satisfied with 90 or 80 percent.
00:18:55.080 His Democrat social allies, including Councilwoman Tiffany Cabone, argue the most costly program would ultimately save money and improve public safety, which, of course, is utter nonsense.
00:19:09.020 But this is the kind of drivel that socialists who get elected to public office actually believe.
00:19:14.380 The program, the city F-H-E-P-S, which was modeled after the old Section 8 program, requires tenants to pay roughly 30 percent of rent while taxpayers cover the remainder.
00:19:27.960 About 65,000 currently rely on these vouchers.
00:19:32.320 But meanwhile, Mamdami has faced separate criticism for failing to clear homeless encampments during a deadly cold snap that claimed nearly two dozen lives, I think, because I read that.
00:19:43.300 This is just the beginning of Mamdami's dismal run, in my opinion. 1.00
00:19:47.900 He's going to have to pull the plug on many of his unrealistic socialist ideas, and he's going to get hell from his base.
00:19:56.580 But the most outrageous is his grab for your private property rights, pushing an initiative in which a property owner in New York City who wishes to sell their property,
00:20:08.820 either residential or commercial, must first offer it to the state.
00:20:14.920 Only after the state declines to buy it can you put it on the open market.
00:20:20.160 And then, when on the open market, if you get a bid on it, you must have to go back to the city government for essentially a second look.
00:20:31.540 City council member Frank Morano excoriated this outrageous plan, which violates your rights to private property under the U.S. Constitution.
00:20:48.360 But it's just an example of the kind of radical agenda that I think Mamdami is still committed to. 0.99
00:20:55.860 He's going to have to work within the system.
00:20:58.240 It was interesting to me that during the primary, he was endorsed by the governor, and that he, at that time, refused to say whether he would support Kathy Hochul.
00:21:13.960 Kathy Hochul, I must tell you, looking at polling, is one of the most unpopular governors in the country. 1.00
00:21:20.400 She, I think, would be vulnerable in the Democrat primary to the right Democrat. 1.00
00:21:26.900 I'm not sure that candidate exists.
00:21:29.400 I don't think it's the current lieutenant governor.
00:21:32.040 People forget that Kathy Hochul was left to New York by Governor Andrew Cuomo.
00:21:38.340 Governor Andrew Cuomo chose her for lieutenant governor, a surprise choice, because he was thought to be preparing to choose Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown for the lieutenant governor's office.
00:21:52.840 He was instead took Hochul.
00:21:55.060 Then when the progressive left finally drove Andrew Cuomo out of office over these Me Too allegations, threatening to impeach him if he did not resign, he resigned.
00:22:10.560 But it's very clear that Mamdami has now fallen in line.
00:22:15.620 So the corporate left wing, that's Hochul, and the progressive wing must recognize that they deserve each other. 0.82
00:22:23.960 Hochul's endorsement of Mamdami was not for him.
00:22:27.300 It was for her.
00:22:29.140 Mamdami's withdrawal of it showed his power.
00:22:32.860 But now he is supporting Hochul.
00:22:35.180 Hochul will be an extraordinarily weak general election candidate.
00:22:38.640 It remains to be seen whether the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman, who has piled up very, very impressive numbers on Long Island, which is one of the keys to being competitive against Hochul, can mount a race that could take down the governor.
00:23:04.000 Also remains to be seen of whether she yet faces any significant opposition in the Democrat primary.
00:23:12.260 I believe that she would be, for example, particularly vulnerable to a Hispanic woman candidate. 0.99
00:23:19.340 But I'm not sure that that woman candidate exists. 0.89
00:23:23.000 Both of these races, both the, I should say, the Mamdami governorship and Kathy Hochul's re-election campaign vis-a-vis Blakeman will be interesting to watch.
00:23:37.560 It seems to me that they have one initial problem, and that is the New York Conservative Party, which is essentially a relic from the 1960s,
00:23:47.000 but continues to have permanent ballot position in New York State.
00:23:52.160 New York State is one of the few states in the country where your name can be on the ballot multiple times as the nominee of multiple parties or as an independent,
00:24:03.880 but you win the cumulative vote of all votes cast for you, regardless on which line they are cast.
00:24:11.620 Therefore, the Conservative Party started originally to try to be a rightward anchor on the New York Democrat Party.
00:24:20.480 It was then controlled by Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits and John Lindsay and Roy Goodman before the party moved right where it is today.
00:24:30.900 But you see, Blakeman is a pro-choice and the Conservative Party is as as one of their absolute planks that they are unabashedly pro-life.
00:24:42.540 The party is, in fact, if you analyze it, overwhelmingly Catholic.
00:24:46.840 So I'm not sure how boss Jerry Kassar of the Conservative Party, who has kind of an arcane setup, his executive committee makes decisions on all endorsements, intends to handle that.
00:25:02.240 We also don't know where Blakeman ends up going for a running mate, but finding a dynamic running mate could make this more of a race.
00:25:13.180 But Blakeman is known to be a favorite of President Trump.
00:25:18.140 They have a warm relationship.
00:25:19.980 Last time I saw him was at Mar-a-Lago.
00:25:22.560 Many people still surprised that at least Stefanik, who I think would have been a very strong candidate, elected in the end not to make this race.
00:25:31.620 I think when she graciously withdrew the nomination or when her nomination to the UN, which she richly deserved, was withdrawn and she remained in Congress because a majority is so thin and her vote is desperately needed there, as well as her common sense.
00:25:50.120 I think she could have been endorsed, would have been endorsed by the president for the governorship. 0.87
00:25:55.780 In fact, he was enthusiastic for her candidacy and her early poll numbers were very positive.
00:26:03.700 On the other hand, she didn't pull the trigger.
00:26:06.040 I think she was waiting to see if Ma'am Dami won. 1.00
00:26:08.980 I think it was pretty clear he was going to win.
00:26:11.480 And that would have been a more positive factor moving her forward.
00:26:15.580 I still think she has a great public career ahead of her. 0.80
00:26:20.940 You see why she's in the House this week. 1.00
00:26:23.020 House Republicans finally advanced a sweeping election integrity package with nearly, of course, every Democrat voting against the legislation designed to ensure that only American citizens cast ballots in federal elections.
00:26:36.120 Seems pretty simple to me.
00:26:37.800 This is, of course, the Save America Act we've talked so much about.
00:26:41.600 Passed the House by a narrow margin of 218 to 213.
00:26:46.500 That's why you see why it's so important to have Elise Stefanik still there, with only one Democrat having the courage to break ranks and vote yes.
00:26:54.640 That's quite incredible.
00:26:56.260 The legislation builds on the earlier Save Act, which was passed by the House in 2025, but ignored by the Senate.
00:27:03.140 The core provision here is pretty straightforward, OK?
00:27:05.480 Again, state elections are administered by the states, not the federal government, but the federal government can help.
00:27:27.600 The bill also authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to pursue immigration enforcement if non-citizens are discovered on voter rolls, which has certainly happened, an effort that closes very dangerously polls in our election system.
00:27:42.300 Republicans argue the measure is a safeguard aimed at restoring public trust in elections, obviously, when confidence remains very fragile and the wounds from 2020 are still being explored.
00:27:54.020 The Democrats, for some reason, insist that the requirement of a photo ID is somehow racist.
00:28:02.120 I just don't get that.
00:28:03.960 If the IDs are free and anyone can get one, if an ID is required to buy a pack of cigarettes or a six-pack of beer or to get on a plane or to apply for welfare or for any other legal purposes where they are,
00:28:22.600 why not to vote, to me, seems to make perfect sense.
00:28:27.460 You can't get on an airplane without one.
00:28:30.180 But it does not look to me like the Republicans have the votes in the Senate, which is very sad.
00:28:35.980 If enacted, the Save America Act would establish, for the first time, nationwide election standards ahead of the upcoming midterms, making it more difficult for Democrats to stuff the ballot box.
00:28:47.380 Look, they're already sweating because Tulsi Gabbard, who was president at the Fulton County Warehouse raid, the raid of the election board,
00:28:57.680 and is known to be investigating the safety and security of the electronic voting machines and whether or not there is potentially foreign interference and manipulation via the Internet.
00:29:13.280 I misspoke when I said she had such proof.
00:29:17.240 I think what she has is proof that the capability exists and existed for Venezuela and China to manipulate our elections. 0.63
00:29:27.180 But whether it was done so in 2020, we presume it was, but whether they left records, that is what remains to be seen.
00:29:36.480 If you were involved in one of the greatest heists in world history, would you leave a full record of your crimes?
00:29:44.240 So I overspoke and I corrected that.
00:29:46.520 I think I said it on a great interview with my good friend, Eric Metaxa, who I realized a little too late that I should have included in my 17th annual international men's best and worst dress list.
00:30:01.500 He is one of the most dapper gentlemen around.
00:30:04.960 But in the interview, I overspoke when I said she had proof of the foreign manipulation.
00:30:10.520 What she has is proof of the capability.
00:30:13.240 The president has charged her with getting to the bottom of that question.
00:30:17.500 She is the one, of course, who had the courage to declassify the Russian collusion documents,
00:30:21.900 which definitively proved that there was a seditious conspiracy that began in the White House in 2016 through the first year of Trump's presidency as the Russian collusion hoax.
00:30:35.040 Two completely fabricated impeachment attempts, then the hijacked 2020 election, followed by the set up and fed surrection of January 6th,
00:30:47.040 followed by Arctic Frost and the extra constitutional legal efforts by Joe Biden to destroy Trump, steal every penny from him, keep him off the ballot and lock him up.
00:30:59.320 And he overcame all of that only through the grace of God.
00:31:04.320 What we're witnessing before us is one of the most dynamic times in American history.
00:31:09.360 Donald Trump is is endlessly moving forward.
00:31:13.460 Those who question his fitness or his health don't know him.
00:31:18.960 He continues to work very long hours for the American people.
00:31:23.580 I'm Roger Stone.
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00:33:03.180 I appreciate those warm words from Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:33:11.120 You know, I said this on the Alex Jones show the other day.
00:33:14.780 I say it yet again.
00:33:16.080 I don't concede that the Republicans will lose the 2026 election.
00:33:19.440 I don't concede that they will lose the House.
00:33:21.780 I don't concede that they could lose the Senate.
00:33:24.780 Those who say that are people who don't understand the volatility of American politics in the age of mass communication.
00:33:32.680 Things have the capacity to change very quickly and trends are temporary.
00:33:38.300 I think the backdrop for the elections is very sound because we have the greatest tax cuts in American history.
00:33:45.100 We have tax cuts done away with the tax on tips.
00:33:49.360 88% of those who are receiving Social Security benefits will no longer spend, pay taxes on them.
00:33:57.520 Thanks to the big, beautiful bill.
00:33:59.520 You have extraordinary deregulation in many sectors.
00:34:05.400 And once we get a non-politically based interest rate cut, I think the housing market, which is already incredibly low.
00:34:15.420 Yesterday, I saw online somebody got a mortgage at 5%.
00:34:19.400 So under FHFA Director Bill Pulte and President Donald Trump, even today, without the rate cut that we deserve based on the unemployment rate and the inflation rate, the housing market is strong.
00:34:34.540 And the mortgage markets are hitting all-time lows.
00:34:39.240 Still, with gas prices down, housing has moved into the second position in terms of people's greatest economic anxiety, first being and continuing to being grocery prices.
00:34:53.360 Big, big, big win for both the United States and Argentina on Friday when the final steps of a $14 billion deal to buy Argentine beef and bring it to the United States.
00:35:08.700 America is facing a beef crisis due to the radical environmental policies of Joe Biden.
00:35:14.480 And the U.S. herds are down from a robust $62 million under Trump's first term down to about $26 million.
00:35:23.240 There literally is no more beef in the United States.
00:35:27.060 We used to buy our beef, additionally, quality beef from Mexico.
00:35:31.940 But because of a screwworm epidemic there in the southern and central parts of Mexico, they are not a safe source.
00:35:42.120 Brooke Rollins has done a good job of protecting our livestock here and our standards here in that regard.
00:35:50.140 But this deal makes sense.
00:35:52.140 It means you're going to have cheaper hamburger on the shelves very shortly and it's going to bring the overall price of beef down.
00:36:00.440 I understand the cattlemen, U.S. cattlemen, are unhappy, but the president has done the right thing.
00:36:06.780 Not only does he help prop up an important ally, Javier Malay of Argentina, but he also gets cheaper beef, high-quality beef on the supermarket counters before the 2026 elections.
00:36:22.640 So this was a big win for both countries.
00:36:26.540 And it also shows that Donald Trump still completely and totally understands the art of the deal. 0.99
00:36:34.140 Those who want to concede 2026 are fools. 0.99
00:36:39.140 The backdrop is there to win. 0.98
00:36:40.900 And if we aggressively tell people what our record is, where we have been, where we are going.
00:36:47.280 Record low inflation.
00:36:49.340 Record low unemployment.
00:36:52.360 Peace in a number of fronts around the world.
00:36:57.820 Low food prices.
00:36:59.760 Low gas prices.
00:37:01.000 That's a big one right there.
00:37:03.340 And expanding and more affordable and available housing.
00:37:07.800 The Democrats have nothing other than their hatred of Donald Trump to run on.
00:37:12.780 Where is their positive program for job creation or their positive program to deal with violent crime?
00:37:21.140 So I'm optimistic about 2026.
00:37:24.920 It is way too early to throw in the towel.
00:37:27.740 It will be crucial for America first type Republicans to win in Republican primaries because they are, generally speaking, stronger general election candidates.
00:37:38.560 We're going to be covering that here in The Stone Zone.
00:37:41.280 Thanks for joining us today in The Zone.
00:37:43.680 I'm your host, Roger Stone.
00:37:45.340 You're listening on the Red Apple Audio Networks.
00:37:48.200 And until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
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