Bill and Hillary Clinton are not happy. For the first time in their long political careers, they are being held accountable and responsible. They have been subpoenaed to appear next week before the House Oversight Committee that is probing their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And Hillary Clinton is whining about it in an interview with BBC.
00:00:54.480Welcome. You are diving head first into the Stone Zone.
00:01:01.760Well, Bill and Hillary Clinton are not very happy because for the first time in their long political careers, they're being held accountable and responsible.
00:01:12.100They have been subpoenaed to appear next week before the House Oversight Committee that is probing their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:01:20.500And Hillary Clinton is whining about it in an incredible interview with BBC.
00:04:35.560In fact, Virginia Giffray said that on this particular occasion,
00:04:43.140Jeffrey Epstein had flown in two 17-year-old twin sisters for Bill's amusement.
00:04:50.820Doug banned the president's chief of staff also on the island.1.00
00:04:56.220Look, Hillary Clinton is a short-tempered, foul-mouthed, entitled kleptocrat, and she's extraordinarily bitter about losing the election to Donald Trump, so bitter that she and her cohorts invented the Russian collusion hoax.
00:05:12.180And let's remember, not long ago, Tulsi Gabbard declassified intelligence from the Russians who had learned that Hillary Clinton had to be heavily medicated because of her mental stability, because of her rages, mostly over losing the election.0.58
00:05:30.960It will be nice to see the Clintons held accountable.
00:05:33.860It is not lost on me that I wrote probably the most important book exposing the Clintons' corruption, the Clintons' war on women, and that every single member of the Mueller prosecution team who came after me had previously worked for Hillary Clinton.
00:05:51.860In the meantime, Steve Bannon has even more problems.
00:05:56.740News today that Bannon was hit with an investor class class action lawsuit over his administration of a Bitcoin company, the Let's Go Brandon Coin LLC.
00:06:11.400I think they also were the progenitors of the F Joe Biden coin.
00:06:16.460Now, that is, of course, only an allegation, but this is the same Steve Bannon who pled guilty in New York to having built donors to the Build the Wall Foundation out of $15 million.
00:06:31.080Bothers me is that Steve Bannon's co-conspirators served long prison sentences, while Steve pled guilty and served no jail time at all.
00:06:44.260Here on the Stone Zone, we have meticulously analyzed the mountain of evidence that Stinky Steve Bannon's collaboration with Jeffrey Epstein has been incurred favor with Epstein, according to these shocking emails.
00:06:57.100This first came to my attention in 2018 when I saw an item in the New York Post that said that Steve Bannon was seen entering Jeffrey Epstein's palatial home in Manhattan.
00:07:10.380I believe it is the largest, most expensive single-family home in all of Manhattan.
00:07:17.680Today, Bannon is out with his cover story.
00:07:20.040It took him four days to come up with it, but it was all about his being a journalist.1.00
00:07:24.180So he, in emails with Jeffrey Epstein, he denigrates Trump as stupid.1.00
00:07:30.120He calls for Trump's removal under the 25th Amendment.1.00
00:07:33.840He brags about undermining President Trump's trade policies with China.
00:07:41.740He says that he, Steve Bannon, is the center of the America First MAGA movement, not Donald Trump.0.81
00:07:49.560Now we're supposed to believe that he was sucking up to Epstein.0.96
00:07:53.700He was coaching Epstein on how to erase his public image as a pedophile, as a child sex trafficker, in an effort to cozy up to him in order to make a documentary.0.66
00:08:07.880Frankly, it just doesn't really fly when you see the text of these actual emails.
00:08:13.800The emails show Bannon being offered favors by Epstein, including travel and medical services.
00:08:20.800services. It is very, very odd, but anybody who reads these would recognize that Bannon is
00:08:27.280coaching Epstein, supposedly, for what he says today, is some upcoming documentary. Now, there's
00:08:33.84015 minutes of film between this disheveled, odorous, gin-soaked blob, Steve Bannon,
00:08:42.040and Jeffrey Epstein. Only two hours have been released by the Department of Justice,
00:08:46.760which I find curious. Why not release all 13 hours of the video? I suspect that Michael Wolff,
00:08:55.840the author who is cozy with both Bannon and Epstein, is correct when he says that Bannon was
00:09:02.300preparing Epstein for a 60 Minutes interview that was scheduled two days after Epstein was
00:09:10.220arrested at Teterboro Airport while arriving on his private jet from Paris. Particularly
00:09:18.880disturbing here to me is Bannon's advocacy of removing Donald Trump under the 25th Amendment.
00:09:25.860So while he's on television or on his podcast claiming to be the last Trump loyalist, he's
00:09:33.720undermining Trump, believing that he is somehow the centerpiece of this movement. When the
00:09:40.120centerpiece of this movement is only one man. The man who elected Donald Trump is not Roger Stone.
00:09:45.780It's not Steve Bannon, certainly, nor is it Paul Manafort. The man who elected Donald Trump,
00:09:50.900well, that would be Donald J. Trump. He had his own way of going about this. The first
00:09:57.520presidential campaign in American history not to spend hundreds of millions of dollars
00:10:02.040on broadcast television and cable, but a one-man public relations machine who simply outworked
00:10:09.900his Republican opponents for the nomination, and then outworked Hillary Clinton.
00:10:15.420We will keep you up to date on the Bannon scandal as it appears to be get only deeper.
00:10:22.540There are some questions about Bannon's very shady Chinese financier.
00:10:30.600There's a fellow by the name of Miles Guo.
00:10:33.460An interesting case in which he's under oath and pleads the fifth 55 times when asked where the source of his money is, the money that he is using to fund Steve Bannon.
00:10:47.060And, of course, there are also reports, we believe credible, that Bannon was paying a very large number of so-called influencers, which is why you don't see everybody doing what I have done, which is to call Stephen Bannon out for his outright treachery against the president.
00:11:05.220It's interesting, Bannon became a bit of a martyr because he went to prison rather than testify under subpoena for the January 6th committee.
00:11:43.860So Steve Bannon, I don't know if he just got bad legal advice or if he was trying to position himself as some kind of martyr, he refused to testify, for which he was, not surprisingly, charged and sentenced.
00:11:58.300Now the Department of Justice, very strangely, is trying to vacate Steve Bannon's conviction, to which I say, okay, that's great, but are you also going to vacate the conviction of Peter Navarro, who I think was rather brutally arrested in public for the same crime, alleged crime, of refusing to testify for a House committee?
00:12:22.940Of course, when Eric Holder was the attorney general and he was sent a subpoena on the Fast and Furious scandal, he thumbed his nose to Congress and told them to stick it, and there was no effort to prosecute him.
00:12:35.800We're going to be watching this issue very carefully. Bannon is out there today with his spin. It was all about journalism. It was all about my documentary. That's why I was unctuously sucking up to one of the greatest criminals and sex criminals and pedophiles of all time.
00:12:55.640We'll have more on the other side about politics today.0.97
00:12:58.980Jesse Jackson, a giant in the civil rights movement, a good friend, oddly enough, of Donald Trump, dead at 84.
00:13:06.180We'll talk about that on the other side.
00:13:08.820Jackson and Trump had a very interesting relationship.
00:13:12.380Donald Trump gave free office space to the Rainbow Project when Jesse Jackson was on his way to making history as the first black American to run for president of the United States.
00:13:23.500We'll be right back with some memories about Jesse Jackson and more politics on the other side.
00:13:29.240Thanks for tuning in to the Stone Zone right here on the Red Apple Audio Network.
00:13:34.200This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:13:38.020He likes politics and he's a professional at the highest level.
00:14:25.500Civil rights activist and two-time presidential candidate Jesse Jackson has died at the age of 84.
00:14:32.720Jackson, of course, rose to national prominence in the 1960s, first as an associate of Dr. Martin Luther King,
00:14:38.980and later became one of the most recognizable figures in modern liberal politics.
00:14:43.660Over decades, he organized protests, voter drives, and corporate pressure campaigns through his Operation Push and the Rainbow Push Coalition.
00:14:54.720Jackson, of course, historically ran for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1984 and 1988, being the first African-American to do so,
00:15:04.100helping reshape the party's coalition politics and emphasizing identity-based organizing that would later define modern progressive activism.
00:15:13.560Supporters credit him with expanding political participation among minority voters,
00:15:18.220while critics argue his confrontational tactics and racial rhetoric deepened the divisions rather than healed them.
00:15:25.100President Trump, very graciously writing on True Social,
00:15:28.680The Reverend Jesse Jackson is dead at 84. I knew him well, long before becoming president.
00:15:33.780He was a good man with a lot of personality, grit, and street smarts.
00:15:37.880He was very gregarious, someone who truly loved people.
00:15:40.580Despite the fact that I am falsely and consistently called a racist by the scoundrels and lunatics on the radical left, all Democrats, it was always my pleasure to help Jesse along the way.
00:15:51.820I provided office space for him at 40 Wall Street, responded to his request for help in getting criminal justice reform passed, that's the First Step Act and the Second Chance Act, and signed it when no other president would even try.
00:16:06.500I also single-handedly pushed and passed long-term funding for historical black colleges and universities, which Jesse loved, but also with other presidents would not do.
00:16:18.660I also responded to Jesse's support for Opportunity Zones, the single most successful economic development package yet approved for minority business, men and women, and much, much more.
00:16:30.380Jesse was a force of nature like few others before him.
00:16:34.080He had much to do with the election of a man he didn't particularly like, Barack Obama.
00:16:40.120He loved his family greatly, and to them I send my greatest sympathies and condolences.
00:16:44.960Jesse Jackson will be missed, signed President Donald Trump.
00:18:18.220Now, while it's true that President Richard Nixon launched the war on drugs,
00:18:22.920The war on drugs under Nixon was aimed at drug traffickers and drug kingpins.
00:18:28.300It was Joe Biden, his chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and President Bill Clinton, who weaponized the 1994 crime bill to go after the end user.
00:18:40.960In other words, to prosecute people for the first time, nonviolent crime of possession of small amounts of drugs for personal use.
00:18:49.980Now, for many decades, the House Black Caucus objected to that and wanted it changed, wanted it reformed. It was not until President Donald Trump became president that you did change that, the First Step Act and the Second Chance Act, changing this rubric in which people convicted of first-time nonviolent crimes are sentenced to these harsh mandatory penalties where a judge has no ability to take into consideration other factors.
00:19:19.260So the single mother of three who gets caught with a small amount of weed in her purse is not looking at a 10-year sentence.
00:19:29.240This is the hypocrisy of the Democratic left because members of the House Black Caucus voted against President Trump's reforms,
00:19:38.580not because they were opposed to them in concept, but simply because President Trump himself proposed them.
00:19:45.220It is among his greatest accomplishments.
00:19:47.580Meanwhile, newly released Justice Department records are tying Jeffrey Epstein to fresh questions about the Obama administration's handling of a 2012 Secret Service prostitution scandal in Cartagena, Colombia.
00:20:02.780The documents reveal extensive communications between convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and Catherine Rummler, who was President Obama's former White House counsel, who would later become Goldman Sachs' top lawyer.
00:20:17.800Rummler would step down this week after questions regarding her relationship with Epstein emerged from these emails.
00:20:24.780The emails reportedly show that she maintained a long-term relationship with Epstein, calling him Uncle Jeffrey, accepting gifts, and even seeking his advice on legal and reputational crises.
00:20:37.540The controversy traces back to the Summit of the Americas in 2012, when Secret Service agents and personnel were caught hiring prostitutes to entertain them.
00:20:47.460Investigators also uncovered hotel records indicating a White House advance team volunteer had a prostitute checked into his room.
00:20:56.620The White House later declared there was no indication of misconduct by any of its personnel.
00:21:01.740But in 2014, a Washington Post investigative story revived the entire thing, reporting officials possessed evidence at the time that they did not fully disclose.
00:21:12.460According to the new emails, Epstein advised the White House counsel on how to respond to reporters and contain the fallout from this prostitution scandal.
00:21:25.160She even shared a draft response with him before publicly pushing back on the allegations.
00:21:31.200Shortly afterward, Rumler withdrew from consideration to be attorney general.
00:21:35.980The revelations come as she stepped down this week from her role at Goldman Sachs following the release of the Epstein files by the U.S. Department of Justice.
00:21:46.420Critics say the issue goes well beyond scandal.
00:21:49.840It raises serious ethical concerns about a top White House lawyer consulting a notorious convicted criminal while managing a politically damaging investigation.
00:22:00.940Epstein's influence was seen in Democrat presidential administrations spanning decades.
00:22:06.580Look at the number of times he visited the Obama White House.
00:22:13.520More must be uncovered about all of those who colluded with Epstein.
00:22:17.340That's why I'm in favor of full and complete disclosure.
00:22:20.760I'm sick of reading online about reports on 4chan that some chauffeur saw Roger Stone on Epstein's Island.
00:22:30.820We knew it was him because he had his shirt off and we could see his Nixon tattoo.
00:22:35.220That is completely and totally false. It's defamatory.
00:22:40.020I'd be laughing about it, except for it gets repeated with such irregularity.
00:22:44.920In fact, I'm the first American journalist, I think, or the second, to expose Epstein and his relationships with the powered elite like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, the billionaire Bill Gates, the Secretary of the Treasury Larry Summers, and others.
00:23:35.720Full disclosure, I have nothing to be concerned about either, just President Donald Trump.
00:23:42.200So I would like to see everything released, and I have been stalwart about that from the beginning.
00:23:47.580Meanwhile, Kentucky Republicans are preparing for a major turning point as their longtime senator,
00:23:54.240former Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, plans his retirement after four decades in Washington.
00:24:00.620The primary to replace him has quickly become a referendum on the direction of the party, establishment conservatism against the newer America First movement shaped by President Donald Trump.
00:24:12.840It's odd because Mitch McConnell headed off the impeachment of Donald Trump in the U.S. Senate, but today he refuses to vote for the SAVE Act.
00:24:24.660The SAVE Act is not complicated. It's a federal law that says you must be a U.S. citizen in order to vote for a federal election, and you must have an ID in order to prove it. No big deal, right? Well, except for Senator Mitch McConnell is against it, former Republican Senate Majority Leader.
00:24:43.220The candidates vying for his seat in Kentucky include former Attorney General Daniel Cameron, Congressman Andy Barr, and a wealthy businessman, Nate Morris, but they're all trying to distance themselves from McConnell, who denied any election fraud, who constantly spoke out against the MAGA agenda during his time as the Senate Majority Leader.
00:25:06.380It appears that Morris, the businessman, has positioned himself more aggressively as a break from the past while Congressman Barr highlights his work for Trump's campaign, and Cameron stresses his independence from party power brokers despite being seen as McConnell's hand-picked successor.
00:25:25.620The shift reflects broader changes going inside the Republican Party, where loyalty to the American First agenda increasingly outweighs seniority and institutional influence.
00:25:38.080Despite declining approval rating among some conservatives, McConnell's allies argue that his overall results, judges, tax policy victors, and funding for military bases and law enforcement strengthens both Kentucky and the nation.
00:25:52.840And certainly there were some accomplishments by McConnell, but he joined the U.S. Senate as a county judge with nothing to his name.
00:26:01.180He leaves the Senate worth tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:26:06.580So I have an obvious question as to how that could possibly be true.
00:26:13.080We will see in Kentucky where this party is headed, whether we're going to be a country of endless debt, countless war, and repeated violations of the Constitution, meanwhile outsourcing our best jobs, or whether we're going to put America first.
00:26:29.580America became much weaker under Mitch McConnell's watch
00:26:33.940And as such, his legacy is considered toxic
00:26:58.460Meanwhile, Russia is signaling it would pause airstrikes on Ukraine if Kyiv agrees to hold national elections, a proposal that is putting fresh scrutiny on the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky,'s continued suspension of voting under martial law.
00:27:16.600So when those on the left tell you the war between Russia and Ukraine is about democracy, with a small d, point out that Zelensky has not allowed there to be any general election, that he prosecutes journalists, that he shuts down newspapers, radio stations, that he's even outlawed the largest church in the country.
00:27:39.460No, this is not in any way about democracy.
00:27:45.280Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Galuzin said Moscow would ensure no strikes would be allowed to occur on an election day, echoing similar comments from Russian President Vladimir Putin suggesting the Ukrainians should be allowed to determine their leadership despite the ongoing war.
00:28:06.060After all, we had multiple elections during World War II.
00:28:11.320We re-elected Franklin Roosevelt in 1944 during the middle of World War II.
00:28:19.160So why hasn't Ukraine scheduled an election?
00:28:22.660Zelensky has repeatedly delayed elections since this conflict began, citing security concerns.
00:28:29.020But the truth is, democratic governments are defined precisely by holding elections during hardship, not suspending them indefinitely.
00:28:37.980Seems pretty hypocritical to me that the U.S. and the West are giving aid to Ukraine, billions of dollars, while they openly flout the concept of a free and fair election.
00:28:48.780Perhaps Zelensky realizes that if he had an election, well, he would probably lose.
00:28:53.640Ukraine claims a parliamentary committee is still reviewing whether security guarantees could make a vote possible today.
00:29:01.680Russia also insists millions of displaced Ukrainians living in Russian-controlled regions should be allowed to participate if there is a vote.
00:29:11.240Kiev, that's the capital of Ukraine, has rejected some of the proposals in the past over alleged concerns of voter manipulation.
00:29:19.080The Kremlin claims it held voting near combat zones during its own 2024 election.
00:29:25.680Despite Ukrainian sabotage attempts, Ukrainian officials counter that safety and international monitoring must be assured before any vote can proceed.
00:29:35.120The deeper issue, I guess, here is legitimacy.
00:29:38.640More evidence is mounting that the Ukrainian people are sick of Zelensky and his corruption.
00:29:43.000Members of his administration are dropping like flies as his cronies are exposed for embezzling.
00:29:49.080No doubt, much more of the aid has gone up Zelensky's nose as well.
00:30:40.040This is very much like the situation in 1962 when Nikita Khrushchev, the Russian dictator, put Russian thermonuclear missiles on the little island of Cuba.
00:30:54.100President John F. Kennedy did not react well, and we were told America came closer to nuclear war than any time in our recent history.
00:31:02.600You can understand that this has always been Putin's line in the sand, and that if we continue to push for the inclusion of Ukraine and NATO, this war will never end.
00:31:18.140The U.S. media has done a pretty good job of trying to convince us that Ukraine can still win this war, but that does not seem likely, according to any of the military experts that I respect.
00:31:31.080In the meantime, the NATO nations, who Donald Trump had to call to account for not paying their fair share for their own protection, continue to goad Zelensky on in ignoring the peace overtures of both Donald Trump, who seems to get the Russians lined up and then Zelensky falls up.
00:31:50.720Then he seems to get Zelensky lined up, and the Russians fall away.
00:31:55.240Trump is, above all, a dealmaker, and he understands that history has no higher position.
00:32:03.700There is no greater honor, no greater title in history than that of peacemaker.
00:32:09.960He is intended to end this strife, and I thought he handled it very well during the debates
00:32:16.700when he was asked in a town meeting whether he wanted Russia to win.
00:32:20.720and or whether he wanted Ukraine to win.
00:32:23.680And he said, I want the killing to stop.
00:32:34.300I pray for peace every day, as I know you do.
00:32:37.060The president understands the importance of his record on the foreign affairs,
00:32:42.980whether it is Venezuela, what is the new pressure he's now putting on Cuba.
00:32:47.100But he also recognizes that the 2026 elections will be about the economy, dropping food prices, dropping gas prices, greater availability and affordability of housing, a record stock market, record low unemployment, record low inflation.
00:33:06.600These are the conditions that will oversee the 2026 election.
00:33:12.760And those who say the Republicans have already lost don't understand that in American politics, with the volatility of our electorate being the way it is today, a week is a lifetime.
00:33:23.700We'll be right back with the Roger Stone portion of the Stone Zone right here on the Red Apple Audio Networks.
00:34:25.440Well, New York City homeowners are about to learn that elections have consequences.
00:34:30.080Socialist Mayor Zoran Mamdami is proposing the city's first property tax hike in more than 20 years to close a roughly $5 billion budget gap, even after Albany already pledged billions in additional aid to New York City.
00:34:44.860City officials say that the plan relies not only on higher taxes, but also on extremely optimistic revenue projections and reserve spending.
00:34:53.980The mayor has also pushed for higher income tax on top earners and increased corporate taxes, part of a broader agenda that includes rent controls, universal child care, free transit, and a $30 minimum wage.
00:35:07.420Mamdami makes all of these lofty promises. Just as weeks ago, the administration warned of a $12.6 billion deficit.
00:35:17.380Then rising Wall Street bonuses and tax receipts suddenly shrank that shortfall, yet taxpayers are still being asked to pay more.
00:35:25.880Homeowners already saw assessed property values jump over 5%, generating additional revenues before any rate increase even takes effect.
00:35:35.020Critics say this reflects a familiar pattern in big city governance, expanding spending first, then look to taxpayers to cover the difference.
00:35:43.340Socialists like Mamdami argue that the wealthy should shoulder the burden, but property taxes rarely stay targeted.
00:35:50.020They cascade through rents, housing costs, and down to small businesses, hitting middle class residents actually the hardest.
00:35:57.960This will then lead to more socialist solutions and will only lead to more problems and more unintended consequences.
00:36:04.460It will also lead to capital and businesses leaving New York to go to more business-favor locations.
00:36:13.080They don't seem to understand that higher taxes merely give people the opportunity to leave.
00:36:19.180After many years of socialist promising affordability, New York will instead get higher living costs and slower economic growth.
00:36:27.640Americans need to look at this mess in New York City as a template for what we do not want to do in the nation.
00:36:33.320Particularly troubling is a new law pushed by the mayor that says if you're a private property owner and you choose to sell your property, you must first offer that property for sale to the city government.
00:36:47.480Only after the city government elects not to buy your property are you allowed to put it on the open market.
00:36:54.060But if you do put it on the open market and you get an offer, you must now give the city of New York kind of a second look.
00:37:04.700I think this is unconstitutional, a violation of private property rights.
00:37:11.920But many, many people in this most recent election voted for hope and change without really focusing on what Mamdami's policies would really mean for the average New Yorker.
00:37:23.340The combination of high tax policies and soft on crime policies are going to continue the mass exodus of what's left of the middle class in New York City as they move to the suburbs or even out of state, many of them coming to my home state of Florida.0.89
00:37:41.880I said when Ma'am Dami was elected that there would be a silver lining, and that silver lining is that the entire country will be able to see what happens when you elect a radical Muslim jihadist socialist as mayor.0.88
00:37:59.400This can only help boaster the Republicans in the 2026 election.0.87
00:38:04.540Thanks for joining us today on The Stone Zone.