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00:00:30.000 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:00:43.760 People love him and respect him.

00:00:45.220 Roger Stone.

00:00:46.480 Now, get in the zone. 0.94

00:00:48.420 It's the Stone Zone.

00:00:50.460 Here's Roger Stone.

00:00:54.020 Welcome.

00:00:54.660 This is Roger Stone.

00:00:57.700 And this is the Stone Zone on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:01:02.180 The big story where we try to bring you the behind-the-scenes action continues to be the showdown in the Oval Office.

00:01:10.260 As we continue to have fallout from the epic meeting between President Donald Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, and the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

00:01:20.000 We now learn that Zelensky was coached by former Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, former National Security Advisor Susan Rice, Alexander Vindman, the former NSA official, who was the progenitor of the fake Russian, pardon me, the fake Ukrainian impeachment hoax.

00:01:47.900 And U.S. Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut.

00:01:51.800 The problem with this, of course, is that that's a violation of the Logan Act.

00:01:56.840 In other words, they were coaching Zelensky for a setup.

00:02:01.300 It's funny that Susan Rice is quoted as saying the meeting was a setup.

00:02:05.600 It was, but it wasn't Trump setting them up.

00:02:08.600 It was them attempting to set Trump up.

00:02:12.080 Trump took command of the meeting.

00:02:13.900 But the truth is that Trump set up Zelensky for a confrontation is false.

00:02:21.500 In fact, we now know that Zelensky and the United Kingdom and EU were trying to play Trump because the British had already signed a deal that provided Ukraine, quote unquote, security guarantees and the right of access to Ukraine's gas, oil and rare earth minerals.

00:02:40.100 Also gave the Brits oversight of Ukraine's ports and the opportunity to invest in the rebuilding of Ukraine.

00:02:48.840 This was signed three days before Trump's inauguration.

00:02:52.900 So Zelensky already had a deal.

00:02:56.440 They were looking for a confrontation, but they lost control of it.

00:03:00.620 I would argue that Zelensky, who is, of course, an actor, turned in the worst stage performance of his entire acting career.

00:03:09.020 And Trump looked statesmanlike and strong against all odds.

00:03:14.440 It's amazing that these people are so brazen because the coaching of Zelensky is a violation of the Logan Act.

00:03:21.880 The Logan Act, you may recall, is the law that says that you can't have your own foreign policy.

00:03:28.420 Only the president of the United States can set foreign policy.

00:03:32.560 And therefore, going back to an earlier time, at the close, the 1968 election, when there were allegations that Richard Nixon, through an intermediary, had urged the South Vietnamese not to come to the bargaining table after President Lyndon Baines Johnson called for a bombing halt.

00:03:54.440 There were calls from the left that this was treasonous, that this was a violation of the Logan Act.

00:04:00.000 Recently, historian Nick Luchter, Nick, Luke Luchter, pardon me, determined that that actually never happened.

00:04:09.900 So it is outrageous.

00:04:12.060 What should happen now?

00:04:12.900 Well, in my opinion, it should be a special counsel appointed by Attorney General Pam Bondi.

00:04:24.440 Now, the special counsel would have to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate to be legal, but that is, I think, the proper course of action here.

00:04:37.080 I'm still outraged by the fact that we've given this guy $350 billion, and he comes to meet the president of the United States, but he can't wear a suit and tie.

00:04:48.180 When he spoke to the World Economic Forum, and he kissed the butt of Klaus Schwab, he wore a suit.

00:04:55.980 But when he shows up for a meeting with the president of the United States, he's wearing a dirty, fatigued sweatshirt.

00:05:02.720 Also, when he addressed a joint session of Congress, he had the same garb.

00:05:09.300 I think it's offensive to the American people and offensive to the taxpayers.

00:05:17.380 We'll be following this story very carefully, but it's interesting, I think striking, that Lindsey Graham, who is usually a huge supporter of the Ukrainians, immediately bailed out on the diminutive leader of Ukraine.

00:05:32.500 Over the past three years, Lindsey Graham has always been a war hawk, but perhaps Graham turned on Zelensky because he knows what's coming.

00:05:43.760 Over the past three years, with the tacit support of his Western patriots, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. 0.91

00:05:52.460 The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of the weapons that we sent them on the international black market at 20 cents on the dollar.

00:06:00.200 These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels, and the forces now controlling Syria.

00:06:09.640 God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in the American biolabs that Victoria Nuland blurted out did exist. 0.98

00:06:18.660 Even our own U.S. intelligence agencies are not sure.

00:06:22.100 The Ukrainians also have murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations and tried to murder others, including successfully murdering an American journalist and a European head of state. 0.71

00:06:35.440 So at some point, I think Lindsey Graham knows that it's all going to come crashing down around Mr. Zelensky's ears.

00:06:42.980 You're listening to The Stone Zone here on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:06:49.780 It was 116 years ago today that President Theodore Roosevelt had his last full day as president.

00:06:57.760 His second term ended on March 4th when William Howard Taft was inaugurated.

00:07:01.980 On March 3rd, he signed a flurry of bills passed by Congress since final sessions, including the Naval Appropriations Act,

00:07:08.480 which funded battleship construction and his commitment to a strong Navy.

00:07:13.420 President Donald Trump will address the nation tomorrow.

00:07:17.800 He has announced that he will create a national cryptocurrency reserve holding cryptocurrencies in trust for America.

00:07:25.140 This is a marked change from the Biden administration that was hostile to cryptocurrency.

00:07:30.920 President Trump said the U.S. Crypto Reserve will elevate this critical industry after years of corrupt attacks by the Biden administration,

00:07:40.640 which is why my executive order on digital assets directed the presidential working group to move forward on a crypto strategic reserve,

00:07:48.980 one that includes XRP, Solana, Cardano and others.

00:07:53.140 Trump announced on his site, Truth Social.

00:07:57.160 President Trump also announced that he'll speak to this joint session of Congress tomorrow night.

00:08:02.900 We'll be telling it like it is, the president said.

00:08:06.920 It's amazing that Stephen Smith is now being touted as a candidate for president.

00:08:15.140 That's the ESPN broadcaster Stephen A. Smith, who, by the way, was on my international best dress list for this year.

00:08:23.660 Smith seems to be amused by the fact that Democrats are looking at him as a potential candidate.

00:08:31.540 He said, the fact that I'm a candidate for the presidency of the United States, according to the polling for the Democratic Party, 0.59

00:08:36.760 is the most clear-cut evidence, Smith said, of how pathetic a state of affairs exists within today's Democrat Party.

00:08:44.100 I have no business being on that list, none whatsoever. 0.79

00:08:46.660 However, I'm not qualified, but it just shows you how pathetic things are at this particular moment of time.

00:08:52.240 In a recent poll, Smith earned 2% of Democrat support for president and has said he wouldn't mind being in office as president,

00:08:59.900 but he had no intention of running. 0.97

00:09:02.560 Smith previously revealed that he feels like a damn fool for voting for the Democrat Party nominee for president, Kamala Harris. 0.97

00:09:09.780 Back in January, Smith told Bill Maher, yes, I voted for her, a lot of people voted for her, 0.99

00:09:16.380 but in the end, we ended up feeling like damn fools because we supported it. 0.99

00:09:20.500 We fell for the okie-dokie, as they say. 0.98

00:09:23.140 If you had a primary, the likelihood is that Kamala Harris would never even have been the Democrat nominee.

00:09:29.680 Smith added, Kamala Harris, who didn't resonate during the primaries in 2020, 0.65

00:09:34.400 couldn't even get to Iowa, suddenly he's a Democrat nominee,

00:09:37.280 and then you roll up to the convention and everybody's like, she's a rock star.

00:09:41.220 How'd that happen?

00:09:42.440 Well, the party that keeps whining about democracy nominated a candidate that not a single Democrat primary voter or caucus voter had actually supported.

00:09:54.920 Legendary actor Bill Murray went on Joe Rogan's podcast last week and told the story how he suddenly realized

00:10:02.180 that, yes, President Richard Nixon was framed by the media.

00:10:06.300 He actually said, this is Bill Murray,

00:10:09.860 when I read the book Wired, the book written by Woodward, Bob Woodward of the Washington Post,

00:10:17.380 I said, oh my God, they framed Nixon.

00:10:21.200 Murray explained that Woodward used faulty sources so far outside of John Belushi's inner circle

00:10:27.040 that it casts doubts on everything Woodward has reported.

00:10:30.280 If this is what he writes about my friend, somebody I've known for half my adult life,

00:10:35.160 Murray said, which is completely inaccurate, talking to people from outside my friend's circle,

00:10:40.940 what the hell could he have done to Nixon?

00:10:43.160 If he did this to Belushi, well, Nixon probably was soiled as well.

00:10:48.800 The two sources that he had, if he had them at all, were so far outside of Belushi's circle,

00:10:54.640 it was criminal.

00:10:56.100 This is not the first time for Bob Woodward.

00:10:58.880 He also claimed that he had stolen into the room of former CIA director Bill Casey

00:11:05.480 and that Casey had confessed his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal.

00:11:10.980 The problem with that, of course, is that Bill Casey's son and his wife both told me

00:11:15.780 that there was no evidence by the tight security provided by the CIA that Woodward had ever gotten

00:11:23.920 access to the ailing CIA director, but additionally, that Bill Casey had been felled by a stroke

00:11:32.480 and no longer had the capacity of speech at the time Woodward said that he spoke to him.

00:11:39.000 Woodward has lied about his own personal background.

00:11:41.560 He was a naval intelligence officer and he was in the White House briefing the White House

00:11:47.380 chief of staff, Alexander Haig.

00:11:50.220 So comedian Bill Murray calling out the great Bob Woodward.

00:11:55.220 Microsoft says they're shutting down Skype.

00:11:58.080 That will happen in May 2025.

00:12:00.700 Skype is one of the most popular video calling applications in the world,

00:12:04.240 but it has fallen behind Zoom, FaceTime, Google Meet, and several other video calling apps.

00:12:10.140 Skype couched this announcement as a merger with another Microsoft application, Teams,

00:12:16.880 which includes a video call function.

00:12:19.920 At its peak in 2013, Skype boasted 300 million users, but in early 2023, Microsoft reported Skype

00:12:27.780 had just 36 million daily users.

00:12:31.040 I use Skype to do my Stone Zone broadcast, which is going to be synced with this show very soon.

00:12:38.360 So I guess we'll have to find out some new technology.

00:12:42.640 Meanwhile, Donald Trump moved to make English the official language of America.

00:12:47.100 On March 1st, President Trump signed an executive order making English our official language.

00:12:52.920 From the founding of our republic, English has always been used as our national language,

00:12:57.720 Trump declared.

00:12:58.880 Our nation's historic governing documents, including the Declaration of Independence

00:13:02.900 and the Constitution, have all been written in English.

00:13:05.460 It is therefore long past time that English is declared as the official language of the United States.

00:13:12.180 A nationally designated language is at the core of a unified and cohesive society, Trump said,

00:13:17.520 and the United States is straightened by its citizenry that can freely exchange ideas in one shared language.

00:13:24.480 Accordingly, this order designates English as the official language of the United States.

00:13:30.880 You've got to love Donald J. Trump.

00:13:33.380 He tells it like it is.

00:13:35.660 In the meantime, we have a situation in which James Carville, the Democrat consultant,

00:13:44.120 says that Donald Trump, who speculates, actually, has syphilis after his confrontation with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky

00:13:53.260 last week in the White House. 0.89

00:13:54.820 What you saw, Carville said, is madness.

00:13:58.400 King George III. 0.94

00:14:02.560 It could be a combination of being a fat F king slob, but I think it should revisit the possibility 1.00

00:14:09.680 that the president has syphilis. 0.99

00:14:12.540 Outrageous. 0.97

00:14:13.140 Carville, the disgraced Clinton operative, is spiraling out of control now

00:14:17.040 that the Democrat Party has completely lost power and popularity in America.

00:14:21.960 If you love politics and you want the inside skinny, well, you're in the right place

00:14:26.760 because this is the Stone Zone, and I am Roger Stone.

00:14:30.420 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

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00:15:06.580 Here in the Stone Zone, we try to take you behind the scenes in American politics to tell you

00:15:34.280 what's really going on.

00:15:36.120 Bridget Brink, the current U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, is a holdover from the Biden administration.

00:15:43.000 Before becoming ambassador, Brink was the deputy assistant secretary for Ukraine,

00:15:48.100 working for Victoria Nuland.

00:15:50.300 We spoke to her about her earlier, illegally coaching Zelensky to try to set up Donald Trump 0.96

00:15:57.180 in a scene gone wrong.

00:16:01.080 Brink posted on her ex-account, deep thanks and respect to Undersecretary Victoria Nuland.

00:16:06.540 She spent her career defending freedom and democracy. 0.68

00:16:10.000 Her values-based diplomacy serve the U.S., Ukraine, and the world,

00:16:14.000 setting the example for a generation of Americans.

00:16:17.420 Actually, Victoria Nuland is the architect of disaster. 0.90

00:16:22.580 Brink helped cover up the Burisma scandal that should have led to charges against Joe Biden

00:16:27.500 for blatant corruption.

00:16:29.720 In 2014, Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian natural gas company.

00:16:36.060 Hunter's role lasted until 2019, when he supposedly advised on corporate governance and transparency.

00:16:42.900 Joe Biden has publicly acknowledged urging Ukraine to fire Prosecutor General Victor Shokin,

00:16:50.300 who was working to protect his son.

00:16:53.980 It is this tendency to have holdovers, undermining the policies of the Trump administration.

00:17:03.760 But late this afternoon, the word broke that Bridget Brink,

00:17:07.560 the current ambassador to Ukraine, has indeed been fired.

00:17:12.140 You heard it here first in the Stone Zone.

00:17:15.380 You can always find us by going and downloading the Red Apple Audio Networks app to your cell phone,

00:17:23.160 so you won't miss any of the great programming we have here on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:17:29.460 One of our favorite features here in the Stone Zone is when I go to the recipe box,

00:17:35.140 and I pull out one of my mother's, therefore my grandmother's favorite recipes.

00:17:39.640 Today, we feature her famous pork chops and spaghetti.

00:17:43.600 It's very simple.

00:17:44.480 You get some thin cut pork chops.

00:17:46.900 You slice a little bit of the fat off of the chops, and you use that to brown the chops.

00:17:54.020 You add some chopped onions and some minced garlic.

00:17:59.020 Now, onions have a much lower burning point, and you want to be very careful not, above all, to burn the garlic.

00:18:09.760 Now, you simply add two large cans of San Marzano tomatoes.

00:18:14.660 That's not a brand.

00:18:15.640 That is a type of tomato grown in a very specific valley in Italy.

00:18:20.240 You can find them at Cristides or D'Agostino's.

00:18:22.940 They're carried by several different companies.

00:18:25.160 To that, you add some oregano, some salt and pepper, and that's it.

00:18:30.800 It's a very thin and healthy sauce.

00:18:33.720 I like to serve it over linguine or a little capellini.

00:18:37.900 Mangia.

00:18:38.780 This is an amazing dish.

00:18:40.600 I'm Roger Stone, and we'll be back with our guest feature coming up next.

00:18:46.240 Please don't touch that dial.

00:18:58.180 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:19:01.840 They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.

00:19:05.620 And I'll say this in front of Roger.

00:19:07.080 He's no baby.

00:19:08.020 And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.

00:19:10.960 Now, as I treated him very unfairly.

00:19:14.200 Now, get in the zone. 0.94

00:19:16.040 It's the Stone Zone.

00:19:18.040 Here's Roger Stone.

00:19:21.780 Welcome back.

00:19:23.080 You're in the Stone Zone.

00:19:24.980 And now joining me is a 30-year board-certified cardiologist.

00:19:30.640 I recently read a terrific article in the New York Post.

00:19:33.700 Dr. Evan Levine was first brought to my attention by the great director, producer, writer, patriot, jazz singer, Robert Davi, a good friend of the show.

00:19:46.380 And I thought that Dr. Levine made a lot of sense.

00:19:50.280 I specifically read an article in which he destroyed a number of the myths.

00:19:55.580 So, Dr. Levine, welcome to the show.

00:19:58.800 Thanks so much, Roger.

00:19:59.760 Let's go through some of these because there are a bunch of common myths that I think people need to hear the truth.

00:20:05.740 For example, one of the myths that you destroy is that Celtic sea salt is better than regular salt.

00:20:12.860 Doctor, what say you?

00:20:15.100 Yeah, you go on the internet, social media that's selling this Celtic salt and saying that this is a special salt.

00:20:23.320 When in reality, it's sodium chloride with a little magnesium.

00:20:27.640 And some people, some folks are saying, add it to your water.

00:20:30.960 Well, if you add Celtic salt, any sodium chloride to your water, and you have any sort of heart disease, heart failure, kidney disease, hypertension, it's going to cause a lot of trouble.

00:20:40.500 How much trouble?

00:20:41.420 You can end up in the emergency room with heart failure.

00:20:43.600 It's really sad that there are folks out there selling this stuff, when in reality, yes, it's nice looking, it's sodium chloride, but it has a few elements, and that's it.

00:20:56.860 It's a danger to people with any type of heart disease, and I warn folks to stay away from that.

00:21:03.580 Here's another myth that you destroyed, is that pricey olive oil sold by doctors is somehow better.

00:21:12.540 Again, you know, we get so much information from social media, and sometimes it's very good, sometimes it's not.

00:21:18.820 But there are a lot of snake oil salesmen, you know, just like they were in the 1800s, they're now as well, selling olive oil.

00:21:27.900 You know, olive oil is a good thing, an excellent thing to add to your diet.

00:21:31.920 It's part of a good Mediterranean diet.

00:21:34.420 But there are folks out there selling their special olive oil, which, frankly, is no better than the pure virgin olive oil from something like Costco.

00:21:44.320 And they're selling their small bottle that you can get a month's supply from Costco.

00:21:49.340 So would I add olive oil to foods?

00:21:52.060 Absolutely, I would.

00:21:53.520 Would I gulp it down from some special salesperson?

00:21:58.060 No, I would not waste my money, Roger, no.

00:22:01.540 I'm really glad to hear that.

00:22:02.960 I've been spending too much money on olive oil, I think.

00:22:05.900 When I cook, I try to find the kind that's specifically designed for sautéing or frying.

00:22:11.400 But I try to use a minimum of it.

00:22:14.340 So this is great information.

00:22:16.840 Here's another myth that you have destroyed, is that no one should take statins.

00:22:23.520 Right.

00:22:24.340 You know, there's this feeling that statins are dangerous.

00:22:30.100 Now, I'm not fond of pharma.

00:22:32.720 I think pharma overprices things.

00:22:34.720 I think pharma sometimes creates diseases.

00:22:37.640 I'm with lots of folks on that.

00:22:39.500 But statins have been around for over 30 years.

00:22:44.200 There's no money to be made on statins any longer, Roger.

00:22:47.840 They're all generic.

00:22:49.420 And it's one of the most studied drugs ever.

00:22:52.560 Now, especially for people that have coronary disease, you want to lower your cholesterol.

00:22:57.700 You want to get the LDL down.

00:22:59.620 The one thing that's somewhat true, in low-risk populations who take statins,

00:23:04.740 they're not going to have much of a benefit.

00:23:06.240 It's like giving someone a blood pressure medicine and their blood pressure is 124,

00:23:11.260 four millimeters above where you want it.

00:23:13.300 They're not going to have a benefit.

00:23:14.880 Same thing with statins.

00:23:16.860 Statins are not right for everyone. 1.00

00:23:19.520 But for many people with very elevated cholesterol and other risk factors and coronary disease,

00:23:25.260 it's a very inexpensive way to significantly reduce your risks of cardiovascular events.

00:23:32.540 I think you've done a great public service by exposing many of the myths on social media,

00:23:39.100 particularly TikTok, about our health.

00:23:41.620 Here's another one that you knocked out of the park.

00:23:43.680 It is the claim that you can detect blockages in your system with a quick test, the so-called Allen test.

00:23:50.820 Doctor, educate us.

00:23:53.360 Well, we've been doing Allen tests since I was a kid in medical school.

00:23:59.380 Not everyone has an ulnar artery.

00:24:02.580 Everyone has a radial, but there are two arteries that usually supply blood to the hand.

00:24:08.980 And before, for example, Roger, if we're going to do an angiogram through the radial artery,

00:24:14.460 we want to make sure you have an ulnar artery as well just in case we damage it.

00:24:18.760 And there are people on social media doing an Allen test where you basically tightly place your fingers on both arteries

00:24:26.980 to hold the circulation down and then release the finger above the ulnar artery.

00:24:31.460 And if there's no flow, they say, oh, that's a sign of vascular disease.

00:24:37.340 That's not true.

00:24:38.300 That's a sign you were born without an ulnar artery.

00:24:41.940 The risk for you, if you don't have an ulnar artery, is the same risk as anyone else for coronary disease.

00:24:48.820 That's not true.

00:24:50.120 I would ignore that.

00:24:52.440 This is a great public service here.

00:24:55.280 Another myth that you leave on the floor is that high blood pressure is no big deal.

00:25:02.180 Talk to us, doctor.

00:25:04.500 That's a great question.

00:25:05.880 And again, you see it on social media.

00:25:08.300 And it really dates back to the early days of measuring hypertension.

00:25:12.520 Most doctors don't even know this.

00:25:15.160 The history of hypertension, it used to be called essential hypertension.

00:25:20.320 It was felt that it was essential as you get older to have an elevated blood pressure.

00:25:27.540 And so that's where that name came from.

00:25:29.700 But of course, it's not true.

00:25:31.760 As your blood pressure goes up, as it continues to go up from the stomach of 120, your risk of having a stroke, kidney disease or a heart attack increases.

00:25:42.380 There's no such thing, Roger, as essential hypertension.

00:25:46.120 It's not essential to have a blood pressure of 160.

00:25:49.300 And when I see these folks on social media suggesting that people should stop their blood pressure medicines, well, it makes my blood pressure go up.

00:25:58.400 Let's put it that way.

00:25:59.360 So Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has declared that he wants to make America healthy again.

00:26:07.020 He wants to examine not only prescription drugs, how they are approved, whether they're safe and effective, but he also wants to examine the processed foods that are so common in the American diet.

00:26:20.900 Do you think Robert Kennedy is on the right path here?

00:26:24.160 He's 100 percent on the right path.

00:26:28.580 You know, we have things in our cereals that children eat, different various colorings from from basically they come from underneath the ground.

00:26:37.780 They kick their petroleum extracts just to make our cereals look vibrant.

00:26:45.140 In Europe, they use fruit juices and here we use oils.

00:26:49.680 And I bring one thing I'd like to bring up is it's not only our food, it's our vitamins.

00:26:55.260 Folks, if you look in the past 10 years, these gummy vitamins have become a big seller.

00:27:01.980 OK, and they're vitamins.

00:27:03.580 You chew on them and they taste good.

00:27:05.660 But look at the label of these gummy vitamins.

00:27:08.620 They contain about four grams of sugar.

00:27:13.040 That's one teaspoon of sugar.

00:27:14.440 So when folks are giving their children or themselves or pregnant women are taking these vitamins, it's like taking a teaspoon of sugar every day.

00:27:25.000 And the other thing is some folks, some vitamin companies are adding a substance called erythritol.

00:27:31.620 Erythritol is a sweetener found in 2023 in a Cleveland Clinic study done by the NIH.

00:27:39.900 They basically, the conclusion was that higher blood levels of this artificial sweetener erythritol were associated with a higher risk of heart attack and stroke.

00:27:50.800 And they recommended further studies.

00:27:52.540 And Roger, I uncovered a company called Luminar that sells prenatal vitamins to women that are going to fertility clinics.

00:28:01.800 The same women that probably watch every single thing they take in their diet, use organic foods, not realizing that their vitamins may have a substance called erythritol that is associated with a higher risk of blood clotting. 1.00

00:28:17.760 So not only does Mr. Kennedy have to go look at our foods, he's got to look at the vitamins and things that are in our vitamins, especially the gummy vitamins, which I suggest to folks I would just stay away from.

00:28:30.980 Folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Dr. Evan Levine.

00:28:35.160 We're talking about your health right here in the Stone Zone.

00:28:37.920 We'll be back with more of Dr. Levine.

00:28:40.140 So don't go away.

00:28:41.160 They can't run and jump as fast as they can.

00:28:44.780 They can't go crazy about a shy dance man.

00:28:48.380 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:28:51.900 Not just Evan Stone.

00:28:53.260 The Stone Zone.

00:28:55.520 Not just Evan Stone.

00:28:59.320 Not just Evan Stone.

00:29:00.980 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:29:22.580 They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.

00:29:26.540 And I'll say this in front of Roger, he's no baby.

00:29:28.640 And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.

00:29:32.480 Now, as I treated him very unfairly.

00:29:35.120 Now, get him a zone.

00:29:36.960 It's the Stone Zone.

00:29:39.020 Here's Roger Stone.

00:29:40.540 Welcome back, folks.

00:29:45.100 We're talking to Dr. Evan Levine.

00:29:47.100 He is a board-certified cardiologist.

00:29:50.360 He's been one for 30 years.

00:29:52.600 And he has been very actively exploring some of the myths about our health.

00:29:56.940 And he's a truth teller.

00:29:58.380 He's developed quite a following on social media.

00:30:01.600 And that's why I wanted to get him on the show here today.

00:30:05.160 Doctor, here's a question that I have.

00:30:07.740 Why do we in the United States seem to pay so much more for prescription drugs?

00:30:13.480 And what can be done about this? 0.99

00:30:15.340 Well, we're foolish. 0.98

00:30:16.740 There's a lot of reasons why. 0.98

00:30:18.660 What can be done?

00:30:19.660 One, we need to negotiate prices.

00:30:22.960 You know, Roger, if you look at Congress, you know, people like Chuck Schumer, they take

00:30:28.680 a lot of money from pharma, okay?

00:30:31.240 And so pharma is everywhere trying to ensure that we pay two or three times as much as people

00:30:38.480 do in Canada and the EU.

00:30:41.340 Now, one of the things that Biden got right about, although he only negotiated the price

00:30:46.260 for 10 drugs, is let's have Medicare negotiate.

00:30:50.480 But if you watch the television commercials, pharma's fighting back, suggesting that, oh,

00:30:56.300 if we negotiate prices, we won't have enough money, you know, to create that medicine for

00:31:02.660 grandma that can cure something that is so untrue.

00:31:06.100 Pharma is right now negotiating drug prices with all your insurance companies, and your

00:31:13.080 insurance company owns something called a PBM, a pharmacy benefit manager.

00:31:18.980 And those pharmacy benefit managers negotiate drug prices with pharma and reduce the prices

00:31:27.540 to your insurance company.

00:31:29.200 Sometimes they give them a coupon for a few hundred dollars per prescription, but they reduce

00:31:34.800 the price.

00:31:36.080 So if pharma says they can't negotiate with Medicare, that's a bunch of bull.

00:31:40.420 It's not true.

00:31:41.580 We should negotiate prices just like everyone else does.

00:31:45.300 I mean, pharma, when they go out and buy cars for their fleet of reps, do they pay GM or

00:31:51.320 Ford list price or do they negotiate?

00:31:54.280 Of course they negotiate.

00:31:56.060 And we need to negotiate as well.

00:31:57.740 We're getting ripped off by pharma.

00:31:59.540 We're getting ripped off possibly because lots of Congress take lots of money from pharma.

00:32:05.760 Pharma produces also lots of commercials, okay?

00:32:09.820 And they pay our media lots of cash.

00:32:13.100 And maybe the media and the news really doesn't want to report the true story about pharma when

00:32:18.280 they get a significant amount of their income from those pharma commercials.

00:32:21.400 You turn on television, every other commercial is a pharma commercial, right?

00:32:25.220 So we need to negotiate the prices with pharma.

00:32:28.960 We're paying too much money.

00:32:31.140 It's interesting.

00:32:32.800 RFK Jr., who I've really come to like and admire, we become good friends, has suggested

00:32:39.640 that like alcohol and tobacco, that we should not allow big pharma to sponsor paid media, television,

00:32:47.780 radio, and particularly the internet.

00:32:51.900 What do you think of that proposal?

00:32:52.960 I 100% agree.

00:32:55.180 Only the United States and New Zealand sponsors.

00:32:57.480 And let me give you an example of a situation I was involved in 20 years ago when I wrote

00:33:02.920 my book in Toward the Country, What Your Doctor Won't or Can't Tell You.

00:33:06.860 It was the first tell-all book about healthcare.

00:33:09.580 I ended up on the Today Show.

00:33:11.600 And before I went on that Today Show, Roger, two days before, the producer handed me a list

00:33:16.500 of questions.

00:33:17.720 And I asked her, you know what?

00:33:19.320 There's no questions about big pharma.

00:33:21.140 Well, oh, that chapter wasn't very good, Dr. Levine.

00:33:25.040 And I naively said, you know, the few physicians I let read my books said that big pharma was

00:33:30.360 a home run.

00:33:31.420 Nobody's ever heard that.

00:33:33.140 And the next thing out of her mouth, Roger, was, Dr. Levine, would you like to be on the

00:33:37.140 Today Show?

00:33:38.600 Are you going to talk about big pharma?

00:33:40.680 And I said, no.

00:33:43.220 But they were very smart, Roger.

00:33:45.580 They were very smart.

00:33:47.160 And instead of airing it live, they decided to tape it.

00:33:50.500 And here I am sitting with Ann Curry.

00:33:54.080 And, you know, I'm an irreverent soul, just like you are.

00:33:58.620 And I wasn't going to accept what they wanted me to do.

00:34:01.420 And I spoke to Ann Curry right before we taped.

00:34:04.500 And I said, Ann, your producer told me if I spoke about big pharma, they wouldn't put

00:34:09.940 it on the air.

00:34:11.000 Is that because half your commercials are sponsored by big pharma?

00:34:16.720 And she said, oh, no, absolutely not.

00:34:19.380 So the questions were prepared.

00:34:22.020 But I segued right into big pharma.

00:34:25.060 Robert Davi knows all about this.

00:34:26.980 And when I segued into big pharma and I left and I went on touring the country, I got a

00:34:33.400 call from my agent and Penguin Publishing telling me that the Today Show is not going to air my

00:34:40.300 interview because I performed so poorly.

00:34:44.420 So they got the DVD and they said, you know what?

00:34:48.660 This interview was darn good.

00:34:49.960 What happened?

00:34:50.920 And I told them what happened.

00:34:52.200 So when I got back to New York, I said, Ann Curry, a huge arrangement of flowers with a

00:34:58.700 card said, hey, Ann, I thought I could talk about big pharma.

00:35:02.420 And the next day, Roger, it was on the air.

00:35:06.000 So what I'm saying is that what they're doing is they're not only convincing patients and

00:35:10.620 doctors, I think they're manipulating the media not to talk about them.

00:35:16.380 That's what I think.

00:35:17.260 This is why we are so pleased to have you on the show today.

00:35:22.280 Here's a pretty simple question.

00:35:23.620 My mother always insisted that my sisters and I take a thousand milligrams of vitamin C every 0.98

00:35:29.860 day.

00:35:30.640 She would have us take it with a meal. 1.00

00:35:32.800 She also insisted that we take it with a zinc supplement because she insisted it made the

00:35:39.200 vitamin C more effective or that you uploaded it into your system.

00:35:44.580 How important are daily vitamins, vitamins like vitamin C, D, zinc?

00:35:50.780 I've read that they boost immunity, but I'm not a doctor and you are.

00:35:54.120 So how important?

00:35:55.720 I think the most important thing is a good diet.

00:35:58.800 I think the most important thing is not going to fast food and McDonald's and eating all the

00:36:03.220 garbage that RFA talks about.

00:36:05.460 As far as vitamins, the question is, is it really that helpful?

00:36:09.800 I think if you keep a good diet, it probably is not.

00:36:13.000 I would be aware again of all those gummy vitamins because you're getting a teaspoon of

00:36:17.220 sugar, but some garbage that may increase your risk of cardiovascular events.

00:36:21.340 As far as vitamin C, do I take it? 0.95

00:36:24.580 No.

00:36:25.460 Do I take zinc when I have a little bit of a cold?

00:36:29.900 I often do, but I do not take vitamin C on a regular basis.

00:36:34.560 It's a water soluble vitamin and most of it just goes out into the urine.

00:36:39.360 So I do not.

00:36:40.180 Fascinating.

00:36:42.600 All these years.

00:36:44.340 I remember reading studies about this and I've always thought that, you know, that was

00:36:49.680 a natural boost to the immunity.

00:36:51.640 Of course, the zinc is also supposed to be good for your plumbing if you're a man.

00:36:57.400 So I'm glad we had a chance to do that.

00:37:00.280 One final question.

00:37:01.240 I'm sorry, we're running out of time here.

00:37:02.460 But I've read that like there are breakfast cereals that are sold both here and in Europe.

00:37:08.040 But in Europe, they don't have certain chemicals and additives in them.

00:37:12.220 But here in the United States, they do.

00:37:13.920 So what gives?

00:37:14.840 What gives is RFK is right on the ball here and we're going to talk about Froot Loops and

00:37:20.900 I spoke about this.

00:37:22.700 If you look at the Froot Loops in the United States versus Froot Loops in Canada, EU, the

00:37:30.120 Froot Loops in the United States looks like it could be in a modern museum.

00:37:34.380 Vibrant, beautiful colors.

00:37:36.380 It just sticks at you, right?

00:37:37.860 If you look at the Froot Loops in Canada and the EU, they use fruit juices.

00:37:42.460 It's not vibrant, it's dull.

00:37:44.180 But the ingredients here are petroleum products.

00:37:47.660 We're feeding our kids petroleum products to make the cereals look good.

00:37:53.820 It's despicable. 0.99

00:37:55.740 It's disgusting. 0.90

00:37:57.240 It needs to go away right away. 0.99

00:37:59.760 And I hope RFK can do that because we're poisoning our bodies with a bunch of garbage just 0.87

00:38:04.980 to make it look a little bit better. 0.93

00:38:07.860 All right.

00:38:08.320 I'm afraid we have to leave it there.

00:38:10.220 This has been a great interview.

00:38:11.920 We're very pleased to have Dr. Evan Levine join us, exploding some of the common myths

00:38:16.840 about your health and telling some real truths that the people need to hear and with the courage

00:38:22.920 to take on Big Pharma.

00:38:24.500 Dr. Levine, thank you for joining us in the Stone Zone.

00:38:28.320 Thank you so much.

00:38:30.420 Again, President Donald Trump will address the nation tomorrow night.

00:38:34.240 I thought he would have talked about his efforts to end the war in Ukraine, but I think he's

00:38:39.720 going to address his new program for a cryptocurrency reserve.

00:38:44.580 It's going to be very interesting.

00:38:45.980 And we'll be filling you in all about the president's speech right here in the Stone Zone.

00:38:50.780 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:39:14.200 It's not just stepping stones.

00:39:15.620 The Stone Zone.

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