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00:00:30.000 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:00:43.840 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.

00:00:46.600 Now, get him his own. It's The Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.

00:00:53.880 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Roger Stone again this evening.

00:00:57.160 And I thought I was going to break in with some major breaking news,

00:01:01.700 but I got to throw some cold water on what you may have heard in the last hour or so,

00:01:06.460 or two or three hours or so.

00:01:09.220 We heard a number of reports that Kurdish ground fighters, thousands of them,

00:01:14.000 have streamed over into Iran from Iraq and started a significant ground defensive in this war.

00:01:19.840 We've had a few things that have happened on the ground,

00:01:22.640 and I'll talk about that a few minutes late into the show.

00:01:26.160 But this would have been a huge difference in the way that this war is being conducted,

00:01:30.540 a huge new leg achieved there.

00:01:34.180 But now we are getting a lot of who I consider to be credible sources saying not so much.

00:01:39.680 That's the first story right now.

00:01:41.380 Could be true, obviously, still,

00:01:42.860 but I am not willing to go and break the news and say this is happening and this is all changing now.

00:01:48.640 Now, at some point, you do expect to see ground forces,

00:01:52.680 and it would be the Kurds who have been involved inside of Iraq for a long time,

00:01:57.060 but they would be the big players in all that.

00:01:59.800 But I think that right now we cannot say this is confirmed.

00:02:03.980 We'll find out more probably in the morning.

00:02:06.420 Second story, though, that is confirmed,

00:02:09.080 that War Powers resolution vote that Senator Tim Kaine

00:02:12.180 and the Democrats were hoping to get passed today.

00:02:14.820 They were hoping to get a couple of rogue Republicans,

00:02:17.400 wishy-washy Republicans to join them and to basically denounce with the vote.

00:02:21.100 It only would have been a denouncement.

00:02:22.800 It wouldn't have been anything to stop President Trump

00:02:24.460 because it wouldn't have been veto-proof.

00:02:26.300 But the Democrats were hoping to get a big win over President Trump

00:02:29.240 from a moral standpoint.

00:02:31.480 Well, they didn't get it.

00:02:32.240 They lost right along party lines.

00:02:34.220 There was one defector from each party,

00:02:36.440 John Fetterman, as I'm sure you're not surprised,

00:02:38.780 defected from the Democrats and voted with the Republicans on this,

00:02:41.500 Rand Paul, the uber-libertarian,

00:02:44.980 although sometimes he's not an uber-libertarian,

00:02:47.040 depends on the issue,

00:02:48.460 he defected from the Republicans and went to the Democrats.

00:02:51.240 So that didn't work.

00:02:52.840 And another story that, again,

00:02:54.020 I'll be telling you more about later in the program,

00:02:56.060 2,500 layoffs at Morgan Stanley,

00:02:59.820 a major layoff despite the fact that Morgan Stanley

00:03:02.280 had massive profits in 2025.

00:03:05.040 I'm going to tell you what's likely behind these big job cuts.

00:03:08.820 Also, at about 36 minutes after the hour,

00:03:10.900 California Governor Gavin Newsom,

00:03:12.880 presumptive Democrat candidate for president in 2028,

00:03:16.340 made a major, major turn in his campaign messaging

00:03:20.880 and his overall image messaging just in the last 36 hours.

00:03:25.240 And you got to hear what he had to say.

00:03:27.360 And I want to analyze that as well.

00:03:28.700 But right now, let's get into this.

00:03:30.680 We are in a rolling, breaking news environment, folks.

00:03:33.300 If you're listening to talk shows

00:03:34.980 or watching TV news shows right now

00:03:37.160 where they immediately just start talking to people

00:03:40.100 who don't really know about what the operations

00:03:42.080 in an operational hot war is,

00:03:44.800 you're wasting your time.

00:03:45.780 But I've decided to remedy that problem.

00:03:48.080 Joining us right now on the phone,

00:03:49.780 Colonel Rob Maness, retired U.S. Air Force,

00:03:52.560 a man who has extensive experience

00:03:54.900 in these kinds of theaters and these kinds of situations.

00:03:58.100 And Colonel, thank you so much for joining us.

00:04:00.080 First of all, give me what your assessment is right now.

00:04:02.520 How has this been going from your standpoint,

00:04:05.000 from what you've been able to observe?

00:04:06.720 I guess we're in day four or day five

00:04:08.600 of Operation Epic Fury.

00:04:11.440 I think it's going exceptionally well.

00:04:13.780 Based on the evidence,

00:04:14.840 it's as clear as the nose on an objective person's face.

00:04:19.440 Look, we spent the first 48 hours

00:04:22.180 taking down the integrated air defense system,

00:04:24.900 destroying their command control and communications,

00:04:28.180 and hitting the leadership targets

00:04:29.820 and decapitating the regime.

00:04:33.180 That's what you do in the first phase

00:04:35.180 of an air and naval campaign.

00:04:37.280 I forgot to mention,

00:04:38.820 destroyed their Navy fleet.

00:04:40.600 We just had the first torpedo shot

00:04:43.680 from an American attack submarine

00:04:46.040 since World War II

00:04:47.620 that sunk one of their most modern ships

00:04:50.580 out about 1,100 miles off of Sri Lanka there,

00:04:54.740 which is, or by Sri Lanka,

00:04:57.140 which is about 1,100 miles from Diego Garcia,

00:05:00.220 where that ship could have easily been going

00:05:02.080 to try to attack the air base there.

00:05:06.060 So, and other activities that we have going on there

00:05:10.060 that are critical to this operation.

00:05:13.180 So, from that perspective,

00:05:15.480 it's going very well.

00:05:16.600 And how do I know that?

00:05:17.820 Well, I know that

00:05:18.580 because we are now putting B-52s

00:05:20.760 with loads of JDAMs and B-1 bombers,

00:05:23.520 neither one are stealthy bombers,

00:05:25.220 and they're high-value assets,

00:05:26.920 deep into Iranian territory

00:05:28.780 to go after the ballistic missile production

00:05:31.500 and storage and launch creation capabilities.

00:05:35.280 And those targets are very far away

00:05:37.700 from any nations that would be a threat.

00:05:40.040 So, we're putting those assets in,

00:05:42.500 and they are not stealthy assets.

00:05:45.660 So, there is no integrated air defense system.

00:05:48.280 There's no command and control and communications.

00:05:50.240 They're not even shooting artillery rounds,

00:05:53.160 anti-aircraft artillery rounds up at these aircraft

00:05:56.520 because they can't do it.

00:05:58.860 And their leadership had to admit

00:06:00.980 that their military units are on last stand orders

00:06:05.240 because they have no communications with them

00:06:07.160 when they had to admit that,

00:06:09.040 when they had to apologize

00:06:10.320 for sending missiles and drones

00:06:12.800 at the Gulf Arab states

00:06:14.460 and the other Arab states in the area.

00:06:17.300 So, they're firing indiscriminately

00:06:20.480 at pre-planned targets,

00:06:22.360 which are civilian targets,

00:06:24.260 intentionally targeting civilians.

00:06:26.140 So, that's the situation

00:06:27.900 the Iranians are in today.

00:06:30.660 And we continue to range this airspace

00:06:33.860 and range this battlefield.

00:06:35.440 They no longer have a Navy fleet.

00:06:37.360 I haven't seen any of these

00:06:38.580 so-called hypersonic anti-ship missiles yet.

00:06:42.160 Where are they?

00:06:42.760 I think that maybe they've been destroyed

00:06:45.500 or at least damaged to the point

00:06:46.820 where it's going to take up a while

00:06:47.840 to get them out

00:06:48.440 because we haven't seen any of those.

00:06:51.500 And as each day has gone by,

00:06:53.120 there have been less and less drone

00:06:54.800 and ballistic missile firings.

00:06:57.260 Now, they are trying to fire on things

00:07:00.140 like energy targets.

00:07:02.480 I just heard some reporting

00:07:04.420 about an energy target

00:07:05.540 that they fired towards Turkey,

00:07:08.180 fired missiles towards Turkey,

00:07:09.740 that it's an energy supply

00:07:11.540 that goes into Israel.

00:07:13.560 So, they are still trying,

00:07:16.080 but they are in really, really bad shape.

00:07:19.700 And the news of this Kurdish effort,

00:07:21.860 it could be anything.

00:07:22.960 It could be the Northern Iranian Kurdish party,

00:07:27.760 the KDPI, which are nationalists too.

00:07:30.900 They're kind of center-left and everything.

00:07:32.780 They're not Marxists,

00:07:34.040 as I was accused of supporting Marxists

00:07:36.280 when I said, hey, it's a good idea.

00:07:37.820 The Kurds are good fighters.

00:07:38.820 Well, that group may be trying to link up

00:07:41.780 with the other resistance groups

00:07:44.240 that have been in the country

00:07:45.200 for a long time

00:07:45.840 that have been active,

00:07:46.820 but they don't have that many people or arms.

00:07:50.960 It would be good to see

00:07:52.020 all these groups linked up together

00:07:53.600 and start working together.

00:07:55.080 And it'd be great

00:07:56.140 if the first Kurds were involved

00:07:59.760 because they're exceptional fighters

00:08:01.360 and very well-equipped

00:08:02.560 and very nationalist too.

00:08:05.080 But I haven't seen any direct evidence,

00:08:08.260 like you said.

00:08:09.280 I mean, I've seen the reporting on Fox

00:08:11.120 and stuff like that,

00:08:11.860 but I haven't seen any direct evidence on it.

00:08:13.400 But I fully support it.

00:08:14.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:15.040 I mean, that's the kind of boots you need.

00:08:17.720 That's the kind of boots you need

00:08:18.940 is Iranian boots

00:08:20.740 backed up by some group like Kurds

00:08:24.400 who are probably relatives

00:08:25.740 with some of the Iranian Kurds.

00:08:27.540 That's right.

00:08:27.820 I mean, that's the kind of groups

00:08:28.880 and unity you need

00:08:30.000 in order to overthrow the IRGC.

00:08:32.440 The other thing that would be great about that

00:08:34.720 is the IRGC ground forces

00:08:36.860 are going to try to mass

00:08:38.320 and attack that force.

00:08:40.000 And maybe that's the idea

00:08:41.440 is to pull them out into the open

00:08:43.020 so they'll mass 1.00

00:08:43.840 and we will just obliterate them 0.97

00:08:45.280 with our precision-guided munitions dispensers 0.54

00:08:49.980 that are intended to go after tanks

00:08:51.940 and armored personnel carriers

00:08:53.200 and trucks and people.

00:08:55.260 We will just, 0.98

00:08:55.900 it would obliterate those guys. 0.98

00:08:58.400 Come out, come out.

00:08:59.360 Yeah, come out, come out.

00:09:00.240 Wherever you are,

00:09:00.900 you're listening to Colonel Rob Maness here.

00:09:04.400 You're listening to Colonel Rob Maness here

00:09:05.840 on The Stones

00:09:06.220 and we're going to take a break in a second

00:09:07.380 but I just want to,

00:09:08.300 for those of you who live in urban settings,

00:09:10.580 I just want to give you a metaphor

00:09:12.020 to help you understand

00:09:12.720 what I thought was one of the most important things

00:09:14.280 the colonel just said

00:09:14.980 about how we're now rolling out the B-52s.

00:09:17.900 They don't have stealth capacity

00:09:19.040 if they're,

00:09:20.360 they cannot fly over a country

00:09:22.500 where there's a decent amount

00:09:24.280 of anti-aircraft facilities still available.

00:09:27.180 So it's kind of like

00:09:28.240 putting back the fur coats on

00:09:30.220 and turning around those diamond rings

00:09:31.640 because now you're in a good neighborhood.

00:09:33.340 That's kind of what's going on here.

00:09:34.860 That's my best analogy.

00:09:36.080 For those of you who grew up in New York

00:09:37.180 in the 70s and 80s,

00:09:38.040 you know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:09:39.440 But we've got to take a break.

00:09:40.320 We're going to come back with Colonel Maness

00:09:41.580 and I want to talk for a second

00:09:42.760 and get his assessment

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00:09:49.860 is playing a crucial, crucial role

00:09:52.340 in this war.

00:09:53.380 No, it's not because

00:09:54.120 that's when Taylor Swift was born.

00:09:55.680 We're going to be right back

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00:12:12.200 This is The Stone Zone

00:12:14.220 with Roger Stone.

00:12:15.980 Roger Stone,

00:12:16.880 who's a very, very,

00:12:17.840 one of the smartest

00:12:18.400 political minds.

00:12:19.900 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:12:21.120 People forget

00:12:21.640 he's actually a brilliant,

00:12:22.900 brilliant political analyst.

00:12:24.180 Now,

00:12:24.880 get him a zone.

00:12:26.020 It's The Stone Zone.

00:12:27.820 Here's Roger Stone.

00:12:32.840 The great Kenny Loggins,

00:12:38.320 1981.

00:12:39.200 I thought,

00:12:39.740 this is it.

00:12:40.440 This is it.

00:12:41.240 When I saw those reports

00:12:42.280 of the Kurdish army,

00:12:44.180 Kurdish armed forces,

00:12:45.520 militias,

00:12:46.620 marching into Iran,

00:12:47.840 I was going to say,

00:12:48.360 this is it.

00:12:48.880 We finally got this

00:12:50.100 uprising on the ground

00:12:51.380 in Iran.

00:12:51.820 Something we didn't see,

00:12:52.680 by the way,

00:12:53.060 when the Shah fell 0.69

00:12:53.800 in 1979.

00:12:54.780 There was really not much

00:12:56.100 of a conflagration

00:12:57.260 at all.

00:12:58.760 But, folks,

00:12:59.740 as Colonel Rob Manis,

00:13:00.680 who rejoins us now,

00:13:01.780 and I have said,

00:13:03.140 there are enough doubts

00:13:04.140 about these reports

00:13:05.040 now that we've got

00:13:05.540 to hold off.

00:13:06.140 It could be true.

00:13:06.860 It could be true tomorrow.

00:13:07.640 It could be true

00:13:07.920 in a couple days.

00:13:09.080 But we're trying to get

00:13:10.100 all the accuracy

00:13:10.860 that you deserve

00:13:11.580 here on The Stone Zone.

00:13:12.480 I'm Jake Novak,

00:13:13.160 filling in for Roger Stone.

00:13:15.080 At about 8.54

00:13:16.900 in this program,

00:13:18.360 I'm going to tell you

00:13:18.860 about the death

00:13:19.340 of a great American today

00:13:20.820 and why he was

00:13:22.080 a great American.

00:13:22.720 And you'll hear

00:13:24.100 about that.

00:13:25.140 Hey,

00:13:25.700 Colonel Rob Manis

00:13:26.300 is rejoining us.

00:13:27.140 He's a U.S. Air Force

00:13:27.940 retired and expert

00:13:28.960 on all these kinds

00:13:29.660 of things.

00:13:29.940 You heard,

00:13:30.380 I hope you aren't

00:13:31.380 just joining us.

00:13:32.080 If you are,

00:13:32.520 that's great.

00:13:32.960 But I hope you were here

00:13:33.820 just a few minutes ago

00:13:34.900 to hear the colonel's

00:13:36.300 excellent assessment

00:13:37.120 of everything going on.

00:13:38.620 I want to get his take

00:13:39.600 on something.

00:13:40.280 I'm going to set it up,

00:13:41.020 though,

00:13:41.620 with this comment

00:13:42.820 by Pete Hegseth

00:13:43.760 about a major,

00:13:44.620 major target

00:13:45.160 that was taken down

00:13:46.080 just the other day

00:13:47.380 in Iran.

00:13:47.900 Listen to this.

00:13:48.380 The leader of the unit

00:13:49.760 who attempted to

00:13:50.480 assassinate President Trump

00:13:52.040 has been hunted down 1.00

00:13:53.680 and killed. 0.95

00:13:55.300 Iran tried to kill 1.00

00:13:56.480 President Trump 0.90

00:13:57.200 and President Trump

00:13:58.780 got the last laugh.

00:14:00.480 Now,

00:14:01.420 this is not

00:14:02.980 a mission accomplished

00:14:04.840 situation.

00:14:07.180 This is simply

00:14:08.380 a reality check.

00:14:10.420 The combination

00:14:11.460 of U.S.

00:14:12.440 and Israeli

00:14:13.080 intelligence

00:14:13.880 and combat power

00:14:15.060 will control Iran 0.99

00:14:16.700 and will control it

00:14:18.600 soon.

00:14:20.180 Combination of U.S.

00:14:21.740 and Israeli

00:14:22.520 military

00:14:23.280 and intelligence

00:14:24.200 powers together

00:14:25.320 and I can tell you

00:14:27.980 based on my own sources

00:14:29.360 the trigger person

00:14:30.620 because this was not

00:14:31.320 a drone attack.

00:14:32.400 This was not an air raid.

00:14:34.260 This was somebody

00:14:34.940 on the ground

00:14:35.560 who took out

00:14:36.140 this IRGC guy

00:14:37.460 in close contact

00:14:38.440 and my sources say

00:14:39.940 this was a Mossad operative

00:14:41.360 who did this.

00:14:43.220 And as we bring back

00:14:43.980 Colonel Rob Maness here,

00:14:44.920 I want everyone

00:14:45.420 to understand

00:14:46.260 about how

00:14:47.480 the technological advances

00:14:48.920 have made

00:14:50.180 opportunities available

00:14:51.920 to us now

00:14:52.760 to get rid of

00:14:53.440 this rogue regime, 0.66

00:14:54.480 this very evil regime

00:14:55.700 that weren't there

00:14:57.000 in the past.

00:14:57.760 We've talked about,

00:14:58.400 I've talked about

00:14:58.940 for years

00:14:59.540 about the F-35 Adir

00:15:01.120 which is the

00:15:01.860 stealth jet

00:15:02.860 that Lockheed Martin

00:15:03.780 made but the Israelis 1.00

00:15:04.660 very quickly doubled

00:15:05.740 its stealth capacity

00:15:06.620 which was a huge

00:15:07.480 game changer

00:15:08.100 in the Middle East.

00:15:09.520 And I also want to say

00:15:10.240 something else.

00:15:12.220 1989,

00:15:13.300 not the year

00:15:13.800 that Taylor Swift,

00:15:14.340 I understand Taylor Swift

00:15:15.380 was born that year

00:15:15.940 but I'm not talking

00:15:16.460 about that.

00:15:17.600 1989,

00:15:18.320 the Iron Curtain

00:15:19.240 truly opened.

00:15:20.480 Mikhail Gorbachev,

00:15:21.600 he had sort of

00:15:22.320 opened it up a crack

00:15:23.120 in 88.

00:15:23.680 89,

00:15:24.200 he opens it wide.

00:15:25.860 And a lot of

00:15:26.820 really smart

00:15:27.640 Russian engineers

00:15:29.380 and software people

00:15:31.100 leave. 0.99

00:15:31.900 Most of them

00:15:32.280 come to places

00:15:32.780 like the United States

00:15:33.580 but a lot went

00:15:34.340 to Israel.

00:15:36.060 And there's,

00:15:37.280 you might have

00:15:37.920 heard things about,

00:15:38.700 you know,

00:15:38.880 stereotypes of smart Jews. 1.00

00:15:40.260 There's smart Jews

00:15:42.100 and then there's smart

00:15:43.120 Russian Jews.

00:15:44.460 And these

00:15:44.740 technological advancements

00:15:46.160 that you see in Israel

00:15:47.120 are largely

00:15:48.140 due to that

00:15:49.720 large emigration

00:15:50.980 from Russia

00:15:51.780 to Israel

00:15:52.940 that started

00:15:53.580 37 years ago.

00:15:55.200 Colonel Maness,

00:15:55.820 you've seen all these

00:15:56.620 technological,

00:15:57.560 amazing things

00:15:58.700 that have happened.

00:15:59.200 Obviously a lot of

00:15:59.860 Americans involved too.

00:16:01.200 But without the technology,

00:16:02.760 we can't do this,

00:16:03.480 can we?

00:16:03.780 I mean,

00:16:06.300 all you've got to do

00:16:06.940 is think back

00:16:07.480 to Operation Grim Beeper

00:16:09.020 to realize

00:16:10.140 where we're at

00:16:11.140 in technology

00:16:12.020 and not just technology

00:16:13.680 but the professional

00:16:15.460 military and intelligence

00:16:17.060 planning and operations

00:16:18.480 that goes with it.

00:16:20.060 The technology

00:16:21.160 enables it

00:16:22.460 but it's the

00:16:23.320 professionalism

00:16:24.240 of the American

00:16:25.660 and Israeli

00:16:26.640 armed forces

00:16:27.380 and intelligence

00:16:28.260 operatives

00:16:28.840 that's below

00:16:29.620 the political level,

00:16:31.120 okay,

00:16:32.000 that keep politics

00:16:33.260 out of stuff

00:16:33.820 and are just

00:16:34.600 grunting out

00:16:35.800 getting their jobs done

00:16:37.380 that have made,

00:16:38.360 I mean,

00:16:38.560 this is amazing.

00:16:39.760 Look,

00:16:40.100 I planned air operations

00:16:42.260 and air campaigns

00:16:43.060 against Iran 0.78

00:16:43.760 when I was a captain

00:16:44.760 in training

00:16:46.020 wargaming

00:16:47.020 and exercises

00:16:48.500 and those kind of things.

00:16:49.700 This is a massive

00:16:50.840 target set,

00:16:52.440 Jake.

00:16:52.900 I mean,

00:16:53.160 you're talking about

00:16:53.980 20,000 plus

00:16:55.540 targets that are known,

00:16:57.880 that are known.

00:16:58.840 It's a massive

00:16:59.900 set of geography

00:17:01.620 that goes from

00:17:02.840 sea level

00:17:04.140 to the highest

00:17:05.240 mountains

00:17:05.820 and then

00:17:07.280 you count

00:17:08.240 all of the

00:17:08.860 different groups

00:17:10.420 that live

00:17:11.100 in this country

00:17:11.860 and then,

00:17:13.000 of course,

00:17:13.320 the Persians

00:17:14.100 and these

00:17:14.880 occupiers,

00:17:16.060 I call them

00:17:16.460 occupiers, 0.99

00:17:17.140 the Islamic Nazis 0.98

00:17:18.160 that are controlling 0.97

00:17:19.460 the government

00:17:20.440 and the IRGC

00:17:22.200 and the Quds Force 0.95

00:17:23.100 and you think

00:17:23.980 about the success

00:17:25.000 that we've had

00:17:25.640 in four and a half

00:17:26.840 days

00:17:27.660 that they are

00:17:28.680 completely

00:17:29.520 overcome

00:17:31.080 and when

00:17:32.400 Secretary Hegseth

00:17:33.440 was talking about

00:17:34.280 we will control

00:17:35.740 Iran,

00:17:37.680 look,

00:17:38.000 we control

00:17:38.500 the airspace,

00:17:39.540 we control

00:17:40.100 their communications,

00:17:41.440 we knew

00:17:42.140 where this guy

00:17:42.820 was enough

00:17:43.920 to where

00:17:44.300 a person,

00:17:45.320 a human being

00:17:46.380 that's armed

00:17:47.340 could get close

00:17:48.100 enough to him 1.00

00:17:48.700 to kill him 1.00

00:17:49.440 in the right 1.00

00:17:50.300 amount of time

00:17:51.040 and get away

00:17:52.420 so that they

00:17:54.180 could fight

00:17:54.600 another day.

00:17:55.420 That is an

00:17:56.100 incredible

00:17:56.840 thing to see

00:17:58.180 happening

00:17:58.580 and soon

00:17:59.260 the ground

00:18:00.420 will be

00:18:01.140 controlled

00:18:01.800 just like

00:18:02.840 the airspace

00:18:03.480 is

00:18:03.820 and we're

00:18:04.380 on our way

00:18:04.840 to doing that

00:18:05.260 and this is

00:18:05.600 another good

00:18:06.460 piece of evidence,

00:18:07.500 factual evidence,

00:18:08.300 you don't have

00:18:08.680 to have

00:18:08.900 classified information

00:18:09.820 to know

00:18:10.620 how successful

00:18:11.600 these operations

00:18:12.300 are being

00:18:12.720 and it's a

00:18:13.380 combined operation

00:18:14.260 between the

00:18:14.820 Israeli Air Force's

00:18:16.140 intelligence

00:18:17.640 and American

00:18:19.420 Air Force's

00:18:20.200 intelligence

00:18:20.680 and the

00:18:21.100 navies,

00:18:21.980 all of it

00:18:22.680 together.

00:18:23.680 I keep

00:18:24.300 referring it

00:18:24.920 to combined

00:18:25.480 because a lot

00:18:26.000 of people

00:18:26.320 don't think

00:18:27.340 the Americans

00:18:27.900 are in charge

00:18:28.680 but you know

00:18:30.300 what?

00:18:30.760 It's obvious

00:18:31.680 that we are

00:18:33.620 in a combined

00:18:34.440 allied operation

00:18:35.560 and now the

00:18:36.200 Gulf Arab states

00:18:37.080 have joined

00:18:37.520 this too

00:18:38.920 and Lebanon

00:18:39.680 is getting

00:18:40.200 in on the act.

00:18:40.940 I love what

00:18:41.380 I'm seeing

00:18:41.800 from the

00:18:42.200 leadership of

00:18:42.760 Lebanon

00:18:43.060 going after

00:18:44.180 Hezbollah

00:18:44.740 and it's

00:18:47.180 an incredible

00:18:47.820 thing to watch

00:18:49.200 these professionals

00:18:50.040 get this job

00:18:50.860 done and of

00:18:51.560 course the

00:18:51.860 technology enables

00:18:52.760 it but it's

00:18:53.700 their professionalism

00:18:54.860 and their

00:18:55.180 training and

00:18:56.040 their expertise

00:18:56.900 that's really

00:18:58.000 making it happen.

00:18:59.160 Yeah I mean

00:18:59.520 like I say to

00:19:00.120 the referee

00:19:00.720 in a bad

00:19:01.160 football game

00:19:01.820 when I'm

00:19:02.140 looking at

00:19:02.440 the people

00:19:02.680 watching these

00:19:03.200 mainstream media

00:19:03.900 reports and

00:19:04.380 even the folks

00:19:04.880 on Fox

00:19:05.360 the first thing

00:19:06.380 comes to mind

00:19:06.740 you're missing

00:19:07.120 a great game

00:19:07.720 folks you don't

00:19:08.660 have to be a

00:19:09.240 cheerleader we're

00:19:09.920 not cheerleading

00:19:10.580 here Colonel

00:19:11.440 Maness and I

00:19:11.940 are not cheerleading

00:19:12.420 we're just

00:19:12.780 stating objective

00:19:13.540 facts about

00:19:14.560 incredible

00:19:15.020 technological and

00:19:16.440 tactical advances

00:19:17.540 that are going

00:19:18.460 on before our

00:19:19.300 eyes you're

00:19:19.780 seeing the

00:19:20.560 building of the

00:19:21.140 pyramids you're

00:19:22.120 seeing the

00:19:22.680 building of the

00:19:23.240 Grand Canyon

00:19:23.820 the building of

00:19:24.740 the Panama

00:19:25.200 Canal

00:19:25.580 although I

00:19:26.600 think the

00:19:26.840 building of the

00:19:27.160 Grand Canyon

00:19:27.460 would be

00:19:27.640 interesting too

00:19:28.080 just kidding

00:19:28.820 about that

00:19:29.240 but I mean

00:19:30.000 this stuff is

00:19:30.860 incredible and

00:19:31.640 you're missing

00:19:32.200 out on it

00:19:32.700 if all you're

00:19:33.180 hearing is

00:19:33.740 reports about

00:19:34.500 political infighting

00:19:36.120 raw resolution votes

00:19:37.900 doom and gloom

00:19:39.340 stuff and even

00:19:40.000 some happy talk

00:19:41.040 it's not based

00:19:42.280 in what you

00:19:43.020 should be

00:19:43.480 impressed by

00:19:44.060 Colonel Rob

00:19:44.580 Maness thank

00:19:45.500 you so much for

00:19:46.100 joining us for

00:19:46.660 this first half

00:19:47.300 hour real

00:19:48.340 expertise by a

00:19:49.400 man who actually

00:19:50.040 knows this what

00:19:50.680 he's talking about

00:19:51.460 we're in a

00:19:52.120 shooting war right

00:19:52.900 now it's not

00:19:53.440 time for all the

00:19:54.700 other little

00:19:55.880 sideshow stuff

00:19:56.880 that's dominating

00:19:57.560 everyone else's

00:19:58.300 Iran coverage

00:19:58.900 I'm Jake Novak

00:20:00.000 in for Roger Stone

00:20:00.860 this is the Stone

00:20:01.620 Zone and come back

00:20:03.000 I'm going to talk

00:20:03.920 about what we've

00:20:04.380 learned from these

00:20:04.880 midterm elections

00:20:05.780 and also what's

00:20:07.460 the real stuff

00:20:08.140 behind the whole

00:20:08.940 Morgan Stanley layoff

00:20:10.300 we'll be right back

00:20:11.120 this is the Stone

00:20:27.960 Zone now get in the

00:20:30.080 zone it's the Stone

00:20:31.800 Zone a man

00:20:32.980 man who's gone

00:20:33.640 through hell but

00:20:34.920 he's kept going and

00:20:36.740 he's smart and he's

00:20:37.920 strong and people

00:20:39.000 love him not

00:20:39.980 everybody but people

00:20:41.060 love him and respect

00:20:41.980 him Roger Stone

00:20:43.180 where's Roger Stone

00:20:44.400 here's Roger Stone

00:20:46.320 and I'm Jake Novak

00:20:48.340 in for Roger Stone

00:20:49.280 tonight on the Stone

00:20:50.280 Zone of course the

00:20:51.960 rolling breaking news

00:20:53.380 is just we are in

00:20:54.640 American troops are

00:20:55.860 in a shooting war at

00:20:57.340 the moment it's really

00:20:58.760 tough to kind of pivot

00:20:59.680 to other topics but

00:21:00.920 then you got people

00:21:02.380 like Gavin Newsom who

00:21:03.520 make it easy for me

00:21:04.680 because he decides on

00:21:07.060 day three or day four

00:21:08.420 of the war to make a

00:21:11.220 major major pivot in

00:21:13.080 his messaging and his

00:21:14.080 imaging listen to what

00:21:15.560 he says about why the

00:21:16.960 United States is in this

00:21:18.060 war right now and a lot

00:21:19.880 of Democrats have looked

00:21:21.900 at the Netanyahu regime and

00:21:25.180 felt like you know what

00:21:26.320 we don't like the

00:21:27.200 trajectory he's on it's

00:21:28.600 time to rethink the U.S.

00:21:29.900 relationship with Israel

00:21:30.780 especially military support

00:21:32.220 where do you think he's

00:21:32.860 making that easy right now

00:21:34.060 let's talk about that but

00:21:35.640 the issue of Bibi is

00:21:36.520 interesting because he's

00:21:39.080 got his own domestic

00:21:39.880 issues he's trying to stay

00:21:41.360 out of jail he's got an

00:21:44.440 election coming up he's

00:21:46.720 potentially on the ropes

00:21:47.680 he's got folks the hard

00:21:49.700 line that want to annex

00:21:50.840 the West the West Bank I

00:21:52.980 mean Freeman and others

00:21:54.000 are talking about it

00:21:54.700 appropriately sort of an

00:21:55.460 apartheid state they

00:21:57.540 couldn't even I mean we're

00:21:58.740 talking about regime

00:21:59.580 change for two years they

00:22:01.680 haven't even been able to

00:22:02.380 solve the Hamas question

00:22:03.580 in Israel so this is I mean

00:22:07.100 you know I want to be

00:22:08.880 careful here but you know

00:22:10.500 in so many ways that

00:22:11.860 influence in the context of

00:22:13.400 the conversation of where

00:22:14.340 Trump ultimately landed on 0.98

00:22:15.540 this is pretty damn

00:22:16.700 self-evident yeah except

00:22:18.560 it's not self-evident

00:22:19.500 because just about

00:22:20.240 everything that Gavin

00:22:21.040 Newsom said there is not

00:22:22.180 true Bibi is not really

00:22:25.160 that much in danger anymore

00:22:26.860 of any kind of legal

00:22:28.720 problems they're trying to

00:22:30.220 they've been trying to

00:22:30.980 trump up and I use that

00:22:32.060 word on purpose lawfare

00:22:34.100 against Bibi for years

00:22:35.400 love or hate the guy they've

00:22:38.020 basically been trying to

00:22:38.760 put him in jail over

00:22:39.640 accepting that some cigars

00:22:40.880 I mean honestly this is such

00:22:42.220 a joke and that's one thing

00:22:44.860 then Newsom says he's got

00:22:46.700 an election coming up

00:22:47.360 there's always an election

00:22:48.180 coming up in Israel you 1.00

00:22:49.220 moron always and Bibi keeps 1.00

00:22:52.140 winning him love or hate 1.00

00:22:54.580 him he just keeps winning

00:22:55.500 him and then this whole

00:22:58.120 idea that they didn't solve

00:23:00.200 the Hamas problem Hamas is 0.89

00:23:02.000 pretty solved I mean we keep

00:23:04.160 knowing that they could rise

00:23:05.700 up again and there could be

00:23:07.440 some serious problems but have

00:23:09.760 you seen a rocket fire from

00:23:11.020 Gaza during any of these last

00:23:12.720 few days which was part of

00:23:14.160 their standing orders if

00:23:15.300 Israel and Iran ever got 0.98

00:23:16.820 into a real shooting war no

00:23:17.900 you haven't I mean the

00:23:21.140 issue here though the big

00:23:22.340 news what is different is

00:23:23.400 that Gavin Newsom uses words

00:23:24.620 like apartheid which is just 0.71

00:23:26.740 what what an insult to the

00:23:28.360 people who suffered under the

00:23:29.320 real apartheid in South

00:23:30.340 Africa to accuse Israel of

00:23:31.640 that and everything else on

00:23:34.840 down the line here's what

00:23:35.820 Gavin Newsom is doing so a

00:23:36.760 bunch of people who think

00:23:37.620 that they got the whole story

00:23:38.860 are reporting that Gavin Newsom

00:23:40.780 is now betting on an

00:23:42.380 anti-semitic wave within the

00:23:43.760 Democratic Party to help him

00:23:44.940 get over his two big

00:23:45.820 problems what are Gavin

00:23:46.980 Newsom's big two problems

00:23:48.420 as a candidate as a

00:23:49.840 Democrat candidate for

00:23:50.800 president can you guess what

00:23:51.740 those two things are he's 0.84

00:23:53.960 white and he's a man that's a 0.93

00:23:55.800 rough one for a party that

00:23:57.360 keeps going to the left and

00:23:58.360 keeps issuing even the white 0.98

00:24:01.040 men within the party people

00:24:02.040 like Tim Walz who can't say

00:24:03.860 more enough bad things about

00:24:05.600 white men all the time even 0.99

00:24:06.760 though a lot of them are

00:24:07.440 white men so people think

00:24:10.340 that's the end of the story

00:24:11.160 he's just trying to find some

00:24:13.240 way to overcome his whiteness 0.50

00:24:14.500 and and and the fact that

00:24:16.060 he's a male by going far

00:24:18.320 left and trying to get some

00:24:19.320 of these Israel haters on his

00:24:21.320 side that's what he's quote

00:24:23.520 unquote betting on no that's

00:24:24.780 not what he's betting on

00:24:25.840 that's what he's doing right

00:24:27.920 now what he's betting on is

00:24:29.280 America losing the war hundreds

00:24:32.200 and thousands of American

00:24:33.480 soldiers coming home in body

00:24:34.860 bags that's what he's betting

00:24:36.240 on what's the point of blaming

00:24:38.500 Israel and the Jews for leading

00:24:40.800 us into this war if we win it

00:24:42.500 in a few weeks and we have

00:24:45.000 very minimal casualties then 1.00

00:24:47.500 you look like an idiot don't 1.00

00:24:50.500 make no mistake folks that's 1.00

00:24:51.880 what he's betting on he's

00:24:53.040 betting on and presumably

00:24:54.540 hoping that we lose this war

00:24:58.280 and that a lot of our people

00:24:59.560 die don't don't I'm not being

00:25:01.120 overly dramatic here I'm really

00:25:02.340 not wish I were but I'm really

00:25:06.500 not and shame on him shame on

00:25:09.560 him for that and by the way

00:25:10.520 it's not going to work it's not

00:25:12.420 going to work either he's going

00:25:14.480 to be successful in these

00:25:15.680 primaries based on who he is or

00:25:17.160 he's or he's not and it's a long

00:25:18.600 way to go and by the way it's

00:25:21.320 only 2026 and we're only in the

00:25:22.920 third month this is not the time

00:25:24.760 to be the front-runner for any

00:25:25.980 presidential election no matter

00:25:27.080 what party you're in you don't want

00:25:28.740 to be the front-runner now you

00:25:30.160 don't want to be the front-runner a

00:25:31.560 year from now you don't want to be

00:25:33.160 the front-runner a year and a

00:25:34.440 half from now the earliest you

00:25:37.360 want to be the front-runner is

00:25:38.380 about two years from now you

00:25:39.660 don't want to be a front-runner

00:25:40.780 anytime before March or so of the

00:25:42.760 actual election year you don't

00:25:44.420 believe me look up the history of

00:25:45.960 all the front-runners Paul

00:25:47.780 Tsongas Howard Dean George Bush

00:25:51.220 the original George Bush and on and

00:25:54.440 on down the line you don't want to

00:25:56.000 be an early front-runner in the

00:25:57.360 presidential election you have a

00:25:58.580 100% chance of losing in that

00:26:01.320 case based on all the historical 1.00

00:26:03.440 knowledge so it's just a stupid bet 0.99

00:26:06.680 on his part but don't be confused 0.99

00:26:08.880 about what he's actually betting on

00:26:10.200 now speaking of people who I think

00:26:11.860 want America to lose this war because

00:26:14.800 as soon as the war started he was

00:26:17.260 immediately making statements

00:26:18.380 against the United States while

00:26:19.420 probably tens of thousands of New

00:26:21.480 Yorkers are part of the fighting 1.00

00:26:22.920 force there are a lot of people from

00:26:24.080 the Bronx and Staten Island and

00:26:25.900 Queens and places not just Manhattan

00:26:28.420 who are in our armed services by the

00:26:30.760 way and Mayor Mamdani immediately

00:26:33.460 came out with a statement a written

00:26:34.640 statement basically saying the US is

00:26:36.280 committing genocide he said

00:26:37.440 killing civilians which is yeah it's 0.78

00:26:39.240 just incredible for him to say that

00:26:40.740 but he kind of changed his tune

00:26:43.180 yesterday and here's what he had to

00:26:45.920 say now about what's going on over

00:26:47.640 there I've said before that the

00:26:51.840 Iranian government has engaged in

00:26:54.860 systematic repression of its own

00:26:57.080 people even killing thousands of

00:26:58.800 Iranians who were seeking to express

00:27:01.240 the most basic forms of dissent earlier

00:27:04.680 this year it is a brutal government

00:27:07.040 oh nice try Mayor Mamdani it's just

00:27:09.960 that I've been paying attention to you

00:27:11.860 and you're supposed to I've said that

00:27:14.540 Iran is killed no you didn't you made 1.00

00:27:17.180 no independent statement about the

00:27:18.880 tens of thousands of Iranians who were

00:27:20.520 being killed in the protests you only did

00:27:23.140 this and I know the exact date so don't

00:27:25.660 try to don't try to hide it on January

00:27:28.200 24th you were asked in a news

00:27:29.980 conference about what you thought

00:27:31.260 about all the deaths of all the

00:27:33.820 innocent protesters the tens of

00:27:35.800 thousands of them that the Iranian

00:27:37.100 regime admitted the Iranian regime

00:27:38.680 didn't say oh we didn't kill these 0.83

00:27:39.820 people they said it they said we

00:27:40.840 killed them estimates of anywhere

00:27:43.120 between 20 30,000 and maybe even a

00:27:46.020 hundred thousand people and they asked

00:27:48.740 him a reporter asked him what do you

00:27:50.220 say about that and all you said Mayor

00:27:52.400 Mamdani is well I certainly don't 1.00

00:27:53.920 support that no you'd so that is that's

00:27:56.140 a condemnation that sounds like a an

00:27:58.320 abstention to me nice try but can you

00:28:01.820 imagine what the internal polling must

00:28:03.480 have been for the Mamdani team for him

00:28:05.900 to make a 180 and claim that he had been

00:28:08.680 condemning the Iranian regime there must

00:28:10.540 have been some real stark numbers in

00:28:12.560 there that didn't look too good for him

00:28:13.900 for him to change his tune about that so

00:28:17.720 my goodness look Mayor Mamdani is in my

00:28:24.380 opinion a complete not you know complete

00:28:26.540 naif he doesn't understand what he's

00:28:27.920 talking about most the time and that's

00:28:29.760 true of a lot of politicians but to come

00:28:32.820 out and again this is something that I

00:28:34.360 don't think he even considered did he

00:28:35.620 realize that there were likely tens of

00:28:37.440 thousands of New York area people and

00:28:39.600 maybe even tens of thousands people just

00:28:41.080 from the from the five boroughs five

00:28:42.600 boroughs in New York City certainly more

00:28:44.100 than a thousand I'd bet a lot of money on

00:28:45.760 that who are in harm's way right now and

00:28:47.720 he's calling them civilian killers I

00:28:49.860 mean are we back to the era of Vietnam 0.99

00:28:51.320 where we call our soldiers baby

00:28:52.800 killers when we don't know what we're

00:28:53.880 talking about that's what the kind of 0.68

00:28:55.980 people that's what immature people in

00:28:57.360 colleges were doing 60 years ago and

00:29:00.300 now we've got Mamdani doing the same

00:29:01.860 thing what a shame what an absolute

00:29:03.480 disgrace I do want to talk a little bit

00:29:06.520 about the midterm elections of course

00:29:08.140 Texas was the central playing ground the

00:29:11.900 central field in the playing field for

00:29:14.120 the midterm elections yesterday the

00:29:15.480 midterm primaries and I want to talk

00:29:18.200 about a couple of them two of them

00:29:19.980 obviously the ones that I think most

00:29:21.520 people are talking about the Texas

00:29:23.160 Senate primaries that were both in the

00:29:24.740 Republican and the Democratic Party

00:29:26.900 Democratic primary was one they've been

00:29:29.560 by the way they were both close the

00:29:31.420 Democratic primary was won by Steve

00:29:33.740 Tallarico and sorry James Tallarico James

00:29:38.100 Tallarico very very close race against

00:29:41.040 Jasmine Crockett and they're turning him

00:29:44.320 into an absolute Jesus figure right now

00:29:47.280 I'm actually looking in the corner of my

00:29:48.440 eye on MS now they've turned in this guy

00:29:50.480 into their great savior but it's not

00:29:54.080 looking too good for them first of all a

00:29:56.400 Democrat hasn't won a Senate been a

00:29:58.080 senator in Texas since Lloyd Benson most

00:29:59.920 of you probably don't remember who that

00:30:00.900 is been a long time and every time they

00:30:04.160 have a Senate election in Texas the news

00:30:07.260 media especially the left-wing news media

00:30:09.580 absolutely tries to canonize the nominee

00:30:13.820 whether it's Beto O'Rourke whether I mean

00:30:17.260 I can give you a lot of names most of them

00:30:19.240 not worth mentioning because you won't

00:30:20.300 remember them and that'll tell you how

00:30:21.780 great they ended up actually being but

00:30:24.920 boy the stuff that's come out about

00:30:26.500 James Tallarico just in the last 24

00:30:28.520 hours sound bites where he talks about

00:30:31.940 how Jesus and the New Testament are very

00:30:34.400 pro-abortion okay tweets where he talks

00:30:40.140 about how because it was still Twitter

00:30:41.340 back then tweets in May of 2020 where he

00:30:43.780 talks about how white people can't get

00:30:45.740 COVID but we can spread the the disease 0.96

00:30:48.560 of hatred really they can't get COVID

00:30:50.640 tell that to all the people who died of

00:30:52.940 COVID who were white I mean the guy's 0.98

00:30:56.080 bonkers and just another great white hope 0.98

00:30:59.220 for the Democratic Party in Texas they 0.96

00:31:02.680 do this every time they do this every

00:31:05.640 time when there's a when there's a

00:31:07.660 nominee Senate you know that someone wins

00:31:09.340 the Democratic primary and they just

00:31:11.160 think they're gonna they're gonna become

00:31:12.240 the next senator now there was obviously

00:31:15.160 a lot of drama on the Republican side

00:31:16.680 also John Cornyn and just barely in a

00:31:18.680 really close race got came in first among

00:31:22.280 three candidates he beats just barely Ken

00:31:24.640 Paxton the Attorney General but not by

00:31:27.220 enough so there's going to be a runoff 0.99

00:31:28.380 election and I think that almost

00:31:31.300 everyone who vote for the third party

00:31:32.680 candidate it's probably going to go to

00:31:34.080 Ken Paxton so you got to say Ken Paxton

00:31:36.240 is probably the favorite to win that

00:31:38.760 runoff election there were a lot of

00:31:40.660 polls months ago that showed Paxton

00:31:42.820 ahead by 20 points I mean I never really

00:31:45.140 quite believed them but I did believe

00:31:46.380 he's in the lead they got a third party

00:31:48.160 candidate there to muddy the waters in

00:31:49.740 this first round in the second round I'm

00:31:51.600 putting my money on Paxton and of

00:31:53.460 course we have a lot of people I think

00:31:55.640 rightfully saying this is an example of

00:31:57.420 what happens when you have Republicans

00:31:59.340 who are not really on board with their

00:32:01.100 Trump agenda going up against capable

00:32:03.740 Republicans who are if you have some

00:32:05.840 kind of wacko who says he's more MAGA

00:32:07.600 than the than the established candidate

00:32:09.420 it's not going to win but Ken Paxton is

00:32:12.200 has a long record in the state of Texas

00:32:13.900 he's been attacked for a long time he's

00:32:15.480 the Attorney General for crying out loud

00:32:16.920 and I you know I think he's going to

00:32:20.120 pull this one out I get the feeling that

00:32:21.600 he's going to do that so that's what's

00:32:23.500 going on in Texas you also have sorry

00:32:25.660 one more race the Steve Toth who was

00:32:27.960 again this is the another example why

00:32:29.360 people are basically making this

00:32:31.000 conclusion Steve Toth defeating Dan

00:32:34.220 Crenshaw who was a media celebrity

00:32:36.520 this is a guy who was on SNL the guy

00:32:38.360 with the eye patch for those of you

00:32:39.560 don't know who he is the guy who

00:32:41.660 distanced himself from Trump once in a

00:32:43.320 while the guy who's on MS now and not

00:32:46.200 just SNL but on all the mainstream media

00:32:48.320 channels all the time clearly trying to

00:32:51.160 create a brand out of himself and you

00:32:55.080 know it's hard to do that in Congress

00:32:57.840 not easy to do that you can sort of do

00:33:00.700 it as a senator you can definitely do it

00:33:02.280 as a governor but carving out some kind

00:33:05.040 of personal brand for yourself when

00:33:06.340 you're up for election every couple of

00:33:07.560 years and you're going to get charged

00:33:09.280 with not representing your district

00:33:10.620 enough is dangerous territory and that's

00:33:12.520 over and above not being on board with

00:33:14.880 President Trump as much as some of the

00:33:16.680 voters in that district wanted him to

00:33:18.300 be so the writing was on the wall for

00:33:20.660 Dan Crenshaw he'll try to I mean I

00:33:23.180 wouldn't be surprised I'm sure he's

00:33:24.860 running to all the media networks now

00:33:27.200 to be a paid contributor which is a

00:33:29.220 great way to get really big money on

00:33:31.300 the on the speaker circuit I don't know

00:33:33.480 how much he's going to make the whole

00:33:34.720 I'm a Republican who isn't always with

00:33:36.700 Trump angle of the business world I

00:33:40.100 think has kind of been exhausted by

00:33:42.100 now hasn't it there's so many people

00:33:43.480 who have just decided that this is

00:33:45.060 their winning financial brand it sure as

00:33:47.780 tech isn't a winning political brand

00:33:49.060 it's not winning anyone any elections

00:33:50.620 but that's what's going on with Dan

00:33:54.100 Crenshaw I know there's a lot of

00:33:55.440 people listening who really can't

00:33:56.740 stand the guy I just think he made 0.99

00:33:58.940 foolish choices from his own political 0.97

00:34:01.560 standpoint and it's a big part of why I 0.99

00:34:04.320 have always said the following all

00:34:07.600 political consultants are bad at what

00:34:09.440 they do they're terrible they just don't

00:34:11.080 do well if you think that they do well

00:34:12.540 because well they you know they win

00:34:13.760 maybe 60 percent of their elections we

00:34:15.480 are a split down the middle country 1.00

00:34:16.920 right now folks any idiot can go 50% 1.00

00:34:20.480 can go can have a 500 winning 1.00

00:34:21.920 percentage in elections right now to

00:34:23.540 have a little bit better than that is

00:34:24.980 nothing to be proud of political

00:34:27.340 consultants whoever sat down with Dan

00:34:29.640 Crenshaw gave him bad advice and that

00:34:31.500 doesn't surprise me in the least bit

00:34:33.480 I want to talk a little bit about these

00:34:35.400 layoffs at Morgan Stanley real quickly

00:34:37.300 because this is a big now you might

00:34:38.580 think this is a CNBC story a Bloomberg

00:34:40.120 story it's not it's not of course

00:34:42.980 they'll report on it but 2,500 people

00:34:45.260 getting laid off at Morgan Stanley just

00:34:46.800 blocks from where I'm speaking to you

00:34:47.880 right now in midtown Manhattan

00:34:49.380 despite the fact that Morgan Stanley had a

00:34:52.320 blowout 2025 I'm not talking about like

00:34:54.580 juiced up numbers here they did really

00:34:56.420 well in 2025 okay so why are they getting

00:35:00.080 rid of all these people well it's got a

00:35:01.660 lot to do with AI and mortgages AI is

00:35:05.760 making no matter how wealthy and and in

00:35:08.980 the green your company is is making a lot

00:35:10.880 of jobs redundant and unnecessary and

00:35:13.480 in the good times and the bad times

00:35:14.780 they're going to cut these people

00:35:15.700 that's what they do cold hard decisions

00:35:18.080 but it also has something to do with

00:35:19.800 mortgages a lot of these layoffs had to

00:35:21.580 do with the mortgages division at

00:35:24.020 Morgan Stanley and no this isn't a the

00:35:26.360 big short kind of thing where they're

00:35:27.880 expecting a big crash in mortgages no

00:35:29.600 what they're expecting is a political

00:35:31.320 environment where big-time brokerage

00:35:33.260 investment in mortgages and in housing

00:35:37.560 is going to become very very hostile

00:35:39.260 president Trump has made it clear he

00:35:40.540 wants to get Wall Street out of the

00:35:42.120 big-time mortgage business and the

00:35:43.240 home ownership business and make it a

00:35:45.860 little bit less crowded so that prices

00:35:48.300 can have some downward pressure and I

00:35:50.140 think Morgan Stanley seeing that

00:35:51.120 writing on the wall and getting out

00:35:52.340 while the getting is good all right we

00:35:54.420 come back I'm Jake Novak in for Roger

00:35:55.940 Stone on the stones and we come back I

00:35:58.060 want to talk about a really great

00:35:59.280 American who passed away today and why

00:36:01.320 he was a really great American and

00:36:03.060 deserves a little bit of our respect

00:36:05.260 today we'll be right back this is the

00:36:07.720 stone zone with Roger Stone he likes

00:36:11.020 politics and he's a professional at the

00:36:13.600 highest level Roger Stone

00:36:16.280 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell but he's kept going

00:36:46.260 and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but people love him and respect him Roger Stone where's Roger Stone here's Roger Stone

00:36:56.260 we had one bedroom for my sister myself and my parents we had a half bath and a kitchen seven and a half years we lived in that place there was no welfare there was no food stamps there was no safety net but I always had plenty to eat because every time I asked for seconds my dad would say no you had plenty

00:37:18.260 and that is a great Lou Holtz who passed away today at the age of 89 and a lot of people think well you know Lou Holtz had a little bit of a mixed record as a head head coach obviously he won a national championship at Notre Dame he had some success revitalizing the South Carolina program but he was lousy in the NFL and he had some other please first of all let me tell you a little bit about his career at Notre Dame he took over Notre Dame he took over Notre Dame in the NFL and he had some other

00:37:40.260 he was lousy in the NFL and he had some other please first of all let me tell you a little bit about his career at Notre Dame he took over Notre Dame at a time when that schools program was at a nadir really really suffering from a horrible horrible string of losing seasons Jerry Faust who was a good guy but was a high school coach that they brought in to be the head coach at Notre Dame and was in the wrong element

00:38:10.260 Notre Dame was getting involved with conferences and with the whole college football playoff thing which has solved that problem for Notre Dame they were always an independent school hard to recruit there harder I should say than it was for earlier times in the history of that school and he really turned that program around and it's not easy to do that in college very very hard to do that and he turned the program around at South Carolina as well turned it into a contending program after years of it being more abundant over there and he did that as well

00:38:40.240 but more importantly you heard in that speech Lou Holtz grew up very very poor in America and there are so many stories like that and we've become a country now where we're more interested in the continuing victimhood of people for so many people in America being a victim is more important than being a hero listen we respect victims we want to help them if you're truly a victim I'm not talking about pretend victims but we don't want to make being a victim the best

00:39:10.240 status that you have in our society for the left it really is victimhood is the thing that they search for more than anything else and Lou Holtz wasn't I wouldn't call him a victim for growing up in the poverty that he just described but my goodness he picked himself up from very very humble beginnings and made himself a big success now he turned out to become a very big supporter of President Trump you know there were two college sports legends of coaching who became big

00:39:40.160 support as a President Trump one was Bobby Knight who also has passed away years ago the other is Lou Holtz Bobby Knight definitely a more problematic figure Lou Holtz much more beloved by America but Lou Holtz's support of Donald Trump absolutely cost him it cost him some support cost him some speaking engagements it cost him some endorsements you better believe it did but he spoke out for what he believed in again you can disagree you don't have to like President Trump you don't have to like Lou Holtz

00:40:10.160 yes he was terrible as a coach of the New York Jets but have you seen who was on the roster of the New York Jets back then I mean honestly it's amazing they it's amazing they actually came out after halftime forget about winning or losing games they were losing by so much at halftime the fact that they came back onto the field and continued to play is a moral victory

00:40:26.240 in my opinion for those of you who have long New York Jets history memories but Lou Holtz dead today an amazing American life a unique American life and someone who really does deserve all the accolades that you hear it wasn't so easy as we leave with the Notre Dame fight song wasn't easy as you think to win at Notre Dame back in the late 80s early 90s believe it or not I'm Jake Novak I was in for Roger Stone here on the Stone Zone thank you so much for listening

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