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00:00:18.740 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:00:32.280 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.

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00:00:40.100 I do remember Cassidy Hutchinson. She was an attractive former aide to former President Donald Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, in his first administration.

00:00:54.100 She would become a star witness for the January 6th committee hearings.

00:00:59.500 Now, those hearings were a travesty.

00:01:02.040 First of all, the speaker refused to appoint any of the Republicans suggested by the minority leader.

00:01:08.120 They're instead just putting Trump haters Liz Cheney and the other one from Illinois on the committee, both of them deep, deep Trump haters.

00:01:22.740 And it was a charade.

00:01:24.060 Jimmy Raskin, a Democrat committee member, said on the record that his hearing would prove Roger Stone's involvement on January 6th.

00:01:31.340 At the end, they played these AI-generated videos that didn't even match the AI-generated videos that they had leaked previously to CNN,

00:01:41.020 which proved yet once again that I had no advance notice, no involvement in, nor did I condone any illegal action on January 6th.

00:01:51.340 But in this particular case, Cassidy Hutchinson said under oath that it was her understanding that President Trump instructed the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows,

00:02:02.920 to call Roger Stone and General Michael Flynn on the evening of January 5th.

00:02:08.720 And Hutchinson would say it was her understanding that these calls were completed on the evening of January 5th.

00:02:14.920 Cheney would then speculate as to what the purpose of these calls was to find out what was going on on January 6th, said the witness Hutchinson.

00:02:27.380 And this is, without any question, a complete and total fallacy.

00:02:33.940 Neither General Flynn nor I ever received any such phone call from Mark Meadows.

00:02:38.860 In fact, I've never communicated with Meadows in any format.

00:02:43.800 I think I did meet him in 2019 in a Fox green room when he was still a congressman.

00:02:49.540 General Flynn said he also didn't speak to Meadows on January 5th.

00:02:53.880 Neither has he ever had any phone conversation with Meadows.

00:02:58.660 So her claim is, of course, bogus.

00:03:01.720 She went on to say that Meadows wanted to attend a briefing in a war room set up at the Willard Hotel.

00:03:09.040 Hutchinson claimed, said that Meadows was persuaded by her not to attend this briefing in person,

00:03:15.980 but that he participate in the briefing.

00:03:18.380 He got debriefed afterwards from Roger Stone and General Flynn by phone.

00:03:25.060 Again, no phone call ever took place because I was never in any war room inside the Willard Hotel.

00:03:31.660 That has been confirmed by the Washington Post.

00:03:34.740 And neither was General Michael Flynn.

00:03:39.220 There may have been others in a war room, but I have no awareness of that.

00:03:43.780 So, again, what she has done here is to lie under oath to Congress.

00:03:49.560 Now, Cassidy Hutchinson took the unusual step of going back to try to alter her sworn testimony in order to avoid prosecution in this matter.

00:04:01.920 But I think that she should be prosecuted just as they prosecuted me for allegedly lying under oath to Congress.

00:04:12.540 I'm sure you remember Cassidy Hutchinson.

00:04:14.580 She's the one who said that Trump, sitting in the backseat of the beast, somehow grabbed for the steering wheel to try to wrestle it away from a Secret Service agent demanding to be driven to the Capitol.

00:04:28.060 All of that, of course, has also been debunked.

00:04:32.560 So I don't know why she, in this case Hutchinson, should avoid prosecution.

00:04:39.760 But we have a two-tiered justice system, and that is for certain.

00:04:46.260 President Donald Trump, very optimistic about the success of the U.S. military campaign against Iran,

00:04:52.280 says that it is nearing its end, declaring the American forces have largely dismantled the regime's military capabilities.

00:05:00.180 In a phone conversation he had with a CBS News correspondent, President Trump said the operation, known as Epic Fury,

00:05:08.020 is moving much faster than originally expected.

00:05:11.420 According to the president, Iran's Navy, communication systems, and air force have been effectively neutralized by the U.S. and allied strikes.

00:05:18.960 You have heard a lot about the regime claiming they would close the Strait of Hormuz, from which 40 percent of the world's oil must flow.

00:05:28.440 Their military capability to do that is limited, and the U.S. Navy, I'm told, will mop that up pretty quickly.

00:05:35.380 On the other hand, the regime is still firing rockets and drones at its Arab neighbors.

00:05:41.940 So that shows that they are wounded, perhaps fatally wounded, and certainly crippled.

00:05:47.500 But they had contingency plans, and they're still running some elements of the country.

00:05:55.640 The president says that the military planners issued a stark warning to Iran's leadership, including the Motadaba Khomeini.

00:06:06.980 They're all named Khomeini over there, by the way.

00:06:09.240 There's the IHL of Khomeini.

00:06:11.180 He's the one who grabbed the 624 hostages.

00:06:15.500 Then there's a more recent Supreme Leader Khomeini, who was reduced to dust, along with 40 of his key henchmen.

00:06:25.300 Again, what is interesting about Trump is that, unlike his neocon predecessors, 0.68

00:06:30.020 he uses American power in a very focused, very limited, but very lethal way.

00:06:36.700 No boots on the ground, no hundreds of thousands of American casualties, and sometimes many more of the locals.

00:06:46.120 No more giant defense contracts like Halliburton and others got during the Iraq War.

00:06:53.880 The president, I think, understands the American people don't have the patience for endless foreign war.

00:06:59.820 However, he was elected as a non-interventionist, not an isolationist.

00:07:07.640 And the regime had a long history of killing Americans. 0.91

00:07:10.540 It goes all the way back to the murder of, I think it was, 281 Marines in the Marine barracks in Beirut,

00:07:16.980 their attack on the USS Cole, their attack on the World Trade Center, and, of course, the aforementioned taking of hostages.

00:07:27.700 The president has warned Tehran not to escalate.

00:07:31.360 A key strategic focus now, as I say, is the Strait of Hormuz.

00:07:35.740 The president is going to take direct control of the Strait,

00:07:39.380 and General Flynn assured me that the U.S. Navy has that capability if Iran continues to try to disrupt international shipping.

00:07:47.780 The president has vowed to keep a shipping lane open.

00:07:51.180 He thinks the Iranian regime is deeply weakened by their taxes rising.

00:07:56.740 Oil prices have followed the conflict, but the administration says, I think, that they are temporary.

00:08:02.900 Once they destroy Iran's missile capabilities, block its nuclear ambitions, and end the regime's ability to sponsor terrorism, 0.76

00:08:11.560 and to close that strategic strait, the oil prices will return back to normal once the terrorists in Iran have been properly dispatched.

00:08:20.320 They are the disruption.

00:08:23.240 Actually, speaking at a Republican policy conference, President Trump predicted the conflict will remain a short-term excursion,

00:08:29.900 praised the strength of the U.S. military, and says his plan remains on schedule.

00:08:36.800 I pray that he is correct.

00:08:40.100 This is the same thing we saw in Iran the first time, saw then in Venezuela, saw it again now in Iran,

00:08:46.300 and that is strategic use of American power on a very limited, but as I say, incredibly lethal way.

00:08:54.840 And that is a break with the neocon tradition of endless war left to us by both parties.

00:09:03.660 Meanwhile, federal agents and local law enforcement have now launched a new search of the notorious New Mexico property Zorro Ranch,

00:09:12.920 once owned by deceased child sex trafficker and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein,

00:09:18.000 as investigators attempt to undercover what many believe are still hidden crimes tied to this ranch.

00:09:24.840 The 7,500-acre ranch known as Zorro Ranch, located near the small town of Stanley,

00:09:30.880 just kind of south of a very fashionable Santa Fe, has long been surrounded by disturbing allegations.

00:09:36.780 Authorities spent several days combing the property amid claims that traffic girls may have been murdered

00:09:42.000 and buried somewhere near this remote desert land.

00:09:46.080 The investigation follows the creation of a new state truth commission in New Mexico

00:09:51.160 to get to the bottom of Epstein's activities on the location and crimes that may have been committed at the compound.

00:10:00.080 It is interesting because the UK Daily Mail today broke a story about the many visits by Bill and Hillary Clinton to Epstein's Zorro Ranch.

00:10:11.420 This is Hillary Clinton, who says under oath that she has no links to Epstein,

00:10:17.500 forgetting to mention that Epstein put up the seed financing for the Clinton Foundation and later the Clinton Global Initiative.

00:10:26.240 She said that Bill was on Epstein's plane a few times for his charity, a few like 27.

00:10:33.540 I haven't seen charity, so I don't know if that's why he was there or not.

00:10:38.720 Denies the fact that Epstein gave to her Senate campaign.

00:10:42.260 And the fact that Epstein's essentially his pimp, his lady Maxwell, was an honored guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

00:10:51.760 Also doesn't mention the fact that the Clinton Foundation completely and totally funds the Tara Marr Foundation,

00:10:58.700 a non-profit found by Jeffrey Epstein but run by Maxwell, which takes in young interns to fight on environmentalists,

00:11:09.000 which really turned out to be a grooming pool for Epstein.

00:11:15.420 So it is undeniable.

00:11:17.720 Of course, until recently, Bill Clinton was assisting.

00:11:19.300 He'd never been on the island.

00:11:20.400 When, as I reported in my 2020-15 book, The Clinton's War on Women, 0.96

00:11:27.140 the Virginia Roberts-Guffray, recently deceased, to tell us she killed herself,

00:11:33.220 says in her sworn testimony that she saw Bill Clinton, two 17-year-olds, at a party on Epstein's island.

00:11:39.660 And when he asked Epstein why Clinton was there, Epstein laughed and said,

00:11:43.580 let's just say he owes me a favor.

00:11:46.560 That is both in her sworn testimony.

00:11:48.700 And in our book, the Clintons are notorious for many years of lies.

00:11:55.440 Hillary Clinton saying it didn't matter why the men died in Benghazi,

00:11:59.640 when in fact it was because of her saying that she hadn't destroyed 33 classified emails

00:12:07.200 on her illegal computer server at home.

00:12:11.400 So it is nice to see them now being subjected to some level of justice and some level of truth.

00:12:23.920 On the other hand, I think neither one of them will ultimately be prosecuted for any crime.

00:12:28.080 And all of this pales in comparison to what they tried to do to Donald Trump.

00:12:32.020 In his case, they tried to keep him off the ballot.

00:12:34.180 They tried to impoverish him, to break him financially, debank him.

00:12:40.920 They tried to put him into jail.

00:12:45.580 They still continue in all of those pursuits, all those matters, of course, now on appeal in New York State.

00:12:54.460 So in the end, I don't think the Clintons will ever get the full justice.

00:12:59.940 They are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of the American body politic. 0.83

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00:14:32.980 So, a Georgia judge has handed President Donald Trump a major legal victory in the aftermath of the collapsed election interference case bought by Fulton County District Attorney and disgraced adulteress Fannie Willis.

00:14:50.480 Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee ruled today that Willis cannot take part in the ongoing dispute over millions of dollars in legal fees sought by President Trump and several of his former co-defendants.

00:15:02.920 The ruling stems from the fact that she had an undisclosed romantic relationship with her lead prosecutor, a former personal injury attorney, Nathan Wade, a conflict of interest that ultimately helped sink the prosecution.

00:15:16.700 Because Willis was not wholly disqualified, Judge McAfee said, she and her office have no legal standing to intervene in this fight over attorney's fees.

00:15:26.800 President Trump and his co-defendants, several of whom are friends of mine, seek roughly $16.8 million in reimbursement, including $6.2 million requested by President Trump himself.

00:15:39.300 First, the underlying premise of these indictments was always a fraud, meaning that it was illegal to form an alternative elector's slate.

00:15:50.480 If you read the minutes of the meeting of the Georgia alternative electors, it makes it clear that they are only forming because they anticipate litigation and they preserve their right to be admitted to the Electoral College in the event that they are successful.

00:16:06.260 Without alternative electors, John F. Kennedy would not be president of the United States, so Thomas Jefferson would never have become president.

00:16:15.820 So the formation of an alternative Electoral College slate, which MSNBC and Ari Melber turned into some kind of crime, is fairly laughable.

00:16:29.640 And this is why the president should get his money back.

00:16:33.080 Willis, of course, was the one who originally filed the sweeping racketeering case against Trump and others for conspiring to overturn the 2020 election.

00:16:42.720 That case is a stretch, to say the least.

00:16:46.440 The case quickly collapsed after the conflict of interest scandal surfaced.

00:16:50.680 Prosecution was ultimately dismissed, leaving Fulton County potentially now responsible for millions of dollars in legal bills tied to the failed case.

00:16:59.660 Willis's overreach hurt the Democrats' scheme to jail our president and prevent him from running for the presidency again.

00:17:06.620 We now know that Fannie Willis was in tight coordination with the Biden White House, where this lawfare effort was being unconstitutionally and illegally coordinated.

00:17:17.300 This was just part of the conspiracy to try to take Trump down by extra constitutional means.

00:17:25.140 Although I must say, Watergate pales in comparison, even Russiagate pales in comparison to the acts of rogue prosecutor Jack Smith,

00:17:35.240 who shreds any semblance of the Constitution and begins the surveillance of Republican U.S. senators,

00:17:41.580 as well as Republican activists, Trump intimates, Trump key supporters, myself included,

00:17:48.940 as well as basically fabricating these false documents charges.

00:17:56.540 When he knows that under the Presidential Documents Act, Donald Trump is entitled to hold on to and have any documents he wishes,

00:18:04.260 and he can declassify anything simply by touching it.

00:18:08.240 But Jack Smith knows that Joe Biden has taken classified documents as vice presidents, and that is a felony.

00:18:15.160 Of course, no charges are brought against Joe Biden.

00:18:18.420 Anyway, it's just another example of the two-tiered justice system that we all want to go away so very badly.

00:18:24.300 Thanks for joining us today on The Stone Zone.

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00:19:46.300 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

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00:20:05.120 Joining me now is a good friend of mine, Captain Seth Ketchel, who brings a battlefield-level analytical discipline to one of the most contentious issues in the country, election integrity.

00:20:27.740 He is a former U.S. military intelligence captain, a veteran of Afghanistan, but he's also, in my opinion, one of the most recognized, incredible independent analysts investigating voter registration anomalies, election procedures, systematic vulnerabilities in this election.

00:20:45.600 But the other thing he is excellent on is trends in being able to project where our politics is going.

00:20:53.380 He has a new book, which I highly recommend it to you, The American War on Election Corruption, which you should go out and get immediately.

00:21:01.580 It has a foreword by former Speaker Newt Gingrich.

00:21:06.340 It has a great cover.

00:21:07.880 Seth, welcome to The Stone Zone.

00:21:09.940 Roger, it's great to be back on with you, and I will tell your audience that I am disappointed I did not make your best dressed list for 2025.

00:21:17.800 Well, you've heard of payola, haven't you?

00:21:19.800 No, not really.

00:21:20.780 I haven't looked at you in those terms, but I will reevaluate you for next year's awards.

00:21:26.560 You are someone who I have deep respect for in your analysts of the trends in voting and the anomalies in voting.

00:21:37.780 So a couple of things I wanted to ask you about that I'm very curious, and that is, how is it possible that Donald Trump wins Wisconsin while the Republican Senate candidate in 2024 is going down narrowly?

00:21:52.140 How is it that Trump carries Arizona by the margin he does, but the Senate candidate, our mutual friend, Carrie Lake, goes down to a dirt bag?

00:22:04.800 How are those anomalies possible?

00:22:06.640 Because that seems unlikely to me.

00:22:09.100 I think the 2024 election was similar to the 2020 election, but when Trump made the catchphrase, too big to rig, he meant that.

00:22:16.440 And I think that in Pennsylvania, you probably would have had a different result had Trump not converted 100,000 or so voters that Harris probably expected that he can't.

00:22:25.520 But down ballot, once Trump had been declared the victor and all eyes were off the election, that particular race you mentioned in Wisconsin flipped in the middle of the night.

00:22:34.280 At the end of counting time on election night, I remember specifically seeing Trump ahead in Wisconsin by about four points, which is where my numbers had him.

00:22:43.020 And, of course, over time, over a few hours, Trump's lead went down below one point.

00:22:47.120 And with it, so did Eric Hovde's lead, and he lost, and they didn't count a single vote again.

00:22:51.440 Yeah, I find both of those races to be enormously suspicious. 1.00

00:22:55.340 I mean, generally speaking, the idea that Joe Biden got 81 million votes when he was essentially a diaper-wearing vegetable for a good part of that campaign,

00:23:06.360 they kept him in the basement at his home in Delaware.

00:23:09.360 They would sometimes drive him 20 miles over the Pennsylvania border for a small meet-and-greet so they could say he was doing a campaign event in the Keystone State.

00:23:19.720 Everybody, I think, on our side of the aisle gets wrapped up in, you know, algorithms and the nuances of mail-in ballots,

00:23:32.600 the integrity or lack thereof of the electronic voting machines.

00:23:37.400 But in a larger sense, wouldn't the SAVE Act, in one swoop, clean up a large segment of that election fraud and irregularities that do take place?

00:23:50.880 Yes, I come to odds with people who are, you know, obsessed with machine voting or they're obsessed with mail-in ballots.

00:23:59.720 But the foundation of all the corruption in our elections is the voter registration system.

00:24:04.560 And the most nefarious act in voter registration is to implement automatic voter registration.

00:24:10.640 That wasn't a thing in the United States until 2015 when California and Oregon started pushing that through.

00:24:16.740 In the 2020 election, Joe Biden won 18 out of 20 states that had automatic voter registration, and the edge was 243 electoral votes to 9.

00:24:26.320 So Biden had 90 percent of the electoral votes he needed just because of automatic registration.

00:24:30.840 So that populates way more registrations than are possible, which are then outfitted with mail-in ballot requests.

00:24:36.920 Or in the case of universal mail-in voting, all these registrations receive a ballot, which are then harvested up over a very lengthy early voting period.

00:24:44.940 Well, let's also make it clear.

00:24:46.400 At the same time, the voting lists are not being cleaned.

00:24:48.420 So last time I was in Las Vegas, I gave a speech for the president at the end of the last presidential campaign, speaking of an event in Las Vegas.

00:24:57.860 A guy came up to me and he showed me five ballots.

00:25:00.360 And they were all addressed to different people, but all at the same address.

00:25:03.820 One of them was addressed to him.

00:25:05.260 And I said, what's this?

00:25:06.060 He said, well, these are all the mail-in ballots I've received at my home.

00:25:10.180 I said, well, if you were a dishonest person, you could cast every one of those for Donald Trump.

00:25:13.680 She said, yeah, but I'm not even going to cast this one.

00:25:15.980 I'm going to go in and vote in person because I don't trust them.

00:25:18.880 And I said, well, that's the attitude.

00:25:20.160 I said, what are these other people?

00:25:21.280 He said, well, two of them, these are all people who lived in my apartment before me.

00:25:25.720 Two of them are dead.

00:25:28.000 One of them has moved out of state and the other one is still in the state but has moved to another location.

00:25:32.960 So it just says, and that, of course, is a remnant of the Harry Reid machine, which, you know, mandated that a ballot be mailed to every registered voter, whether you ask for one or not.

00:25:46.580 Well, Roger, the event that you came to in Washington, D.C. on the 19th of February, our Election Integrity Summit, the gentleman that spoke a couple hours before you, Dr. John Lott, I asked him specifically to come in to talk about his extensive research on mail-in ballot fraud.

00:26:02.060 And it's a really sad thing.

00:26:04.100 We don't use a lot of the information we can find openly available to our benefit.

00:26:09.100 Thirty-four out of 47 European countries ban mail-in voting outright.

00:26:13.960 And some of the ones that do allow it only allow it for overseas citizens.

00:26:17.420 So we're talking about a couple thousand ballots.

00:26:19.680 Mexico, Japan, Russia, Israel, they all ban mail-in voting.

00:26:23.620 So why is it that our blue states are going the other direction?

00:26:27.180 No, I think you raise an excellent point.

00:26:28.680 So, for example, the fact that 300,000 ballots essentially popped up at the Detroit Counting Center in Michigan at 3 o'clock.

00:26:36.600 And when the fact that they hadn't been folded and therefore had never been mailed, that doesn't really matter, does it?

00:26:41.900 No.

00:26:42.380 Of course, as long as it advances the Democrat agenda of when.

00:26:45.360 I mean, they've been doing this in American elections for a long time.

00:26:48.280 In my book, I point out Democrat operatives in 1864 trying to steal New York State for George McClellan against Abraham Lincoln by using fake signatures on absentee ballots.

00:26:58.680 I mean, when I went to vote myself in the last election, I was waiting in line because I would just try to vote in person.

00:27:05.660 And a man in front of me stepped up and produced his ID and his address.

00:27:11.040 And the lady working, the temporary election worker, beyond the desk, said,

00:27:14.820 I'm sorry, sir, you already voted this morning.

00:27:17.240 He said, no, I didn't.

00:27:18.820 He says, oh, no, you voted it, and she gave him a time.

00:27:22.880 And he said, let's say his name was John Smith.

00:27:25.100 And he says, let me ask you a question.

00:27:26.200 Is there also a Rhonda Smith registered at the same address?

00:27:31.600 And the woman says, oh, yes, and she voted also.

00:27:34.100 He said, well, that's my mother.

00:27:35.040 She's been dead for 15 years.

00:27:36.760 Welcome to Broward County, Florida, ladies and gentlemen, where dirty voter lists are the norm. 0.99

00:27:44.660 This claim by Governor Ron DeSantis that we run the gold standard of elections is just not true based on the myriad of problems.

00:27:54.500 Even when the boards of elections mail out a mail-in ballot, it has to be returned, requested, in an event that is undeliverable.

00:28:02.900 And in the primaries two years ago, 4,000 returned to the Lake County Board of Elections, and somebody, somebody cast those votes.

00:28:11.220 So it's a very corrupt system here, and you're right.

00:28:13.960 I think it all goes back to the voter lists.

00:28:15.880 And that's exactly why you don't see a lot of these states, almost all the states, including the red ones, cooperating with the DOJ and the orders to turn over voter rolls.

00:28:25.420 So I love the – he puts Boss Tweed on the cover of his great new book, The American War on Election Corruption, The Crusade to Restore Trust in Voting.

00:28:37.720 Newt Gingrich wrote the forward.

00:28:40.440 It's a terrific work.

00:28:41.780 I'm only about a third into it, but it is also a great cover.

00:28:46.180 You say you have some concerns about the – over the Texas Senate primary.

00:28:51.640 I am concerned about it, and I think it presents a combination of issues.

00:28:55.360 It presents a very serious political problem, number one, because it was a nasty primary.

00:29:00.880 I'm not one of these people that panics over Texas every two years, but I think you've got one race that sticks out to people that is causing some concern,

00:29:08.340 and that would be Ted Cruz in 2018 and his re-election bid against Robert Francis Beto O'Rourke, who came within three points of flipping that seat.

00:29:17.900 Now, Ted was a very lazy campaigner, in my opinion.

00:29:20.820 I think that he listened to some pretty bad advice, and he was going for a blowout when he was barely winning.

00:29:25.560 But Ken Paxton got outspent big time.

00:29:29.640 Cornyn put $60 million in the race to harm him, and I'm not so sure where Wesley Johnson's candidacy came from.

00:29:34.620 I think I have an idea.

00:29:36.160 But Paxton really damaged – or Cornyn really damaged Paxton, who underperformed by at least 6.5 points, if not 10, putting the president in a very difficult position.

00:29:44.560 Now, I think that there's leverage over the U.S. Senate and Cornyn and Senate President Thune, Senate Leader Thune, to get the SAVE Act across.

00:29:55.080 But it doesn't sound like, based on the news today, that that's going to happen.

00:29:58.480 So I almost wonder if we should just say the hell with it and endorse Paxton, because he's a far better Senate candidate and senator waiting to happen.

00:30:06.100 Well, it is – I must say that in the 50 years I've been in American politics, I have never seen a more selfless act of Ken Paxton, who could very well still win this Senate seat.

00:30:16.520 In fact, I would argue might be well positioned to do so, to say, look, I'll give up my personal ambitions and my candidacy if the Senate will simply end the filibuster and allow J.D. Vance to break the tie to pass the SAVE Act, which the president correctly calls the SAVE America Act.

00:30:33.380 It's really not that controversial. It simply says that one has to be a qualified U.S. citizen to vote in a federal election, and one needs to have a certain form of ID.

00:30:42.040 These are perfectly reasonable concepts. We have 50 votes, but because of an antiquated rule among gentlemen, we don't have the filibuster.

00:30:51.940 Now, the instant Republicans lose control of the Senate, if they do, they will end the filibuster, and they will ram through some of those left-wing extremist legislations you've ever seen.

00:31:01.800 We have a unique opportunity right now to save the country by passing this vote.

00:31:06.960 And John Thune, I bet Donald Trump wishes, if he had to guess again, he had supported Rick Scott to be the majority rather than John Thune.

00:31:16.520 Thune, who will not even leave the Senate in session so that Trump may have recess appointments.

00:31:22.920 I mean, there are many jobs in the Trump administration that are yet vacant or, even worse, still filled by Biden quizlings that have not been filled because there's no process for confirmation.

00:31:35.160 If the Senate was kept technically in session, Trump would have the ability to make at least temporary appointments so we could actually run the machinery of government.

00:31:47.700 But, of course, they won't allow that.

00:31:51.380 On top of this idea that both senators must agree on the choice of a U.S. attorney, a U.S. attorney who might be in a position to investigate the corruption of, well, those two U.S. senators.

00:32:04.860 The so-called blue slip system, where a U.S. attorney has to have at least the acquiescence of a Democrat senator in his state.

00:32:15.620 All of Biden's appointments were duly approved by Republican senators.

00:32:19.720 He had the right to appoint his U.S. attorneys, as horrible as some of them were.

00:32:23.500 But they have not given Donald Trump the same courtesy.

00:32:25.780 In fact, they continue to refuse to confirm his appointments.

00:32:31.220 And I think that is hurting his administration.

00:32:34.360 And you can't sue because it's not a law.

00:32:37.180 It's an antiquated custom.

00:32:39.240 We've got to break the filibuster first.

00:32:40.720 I think that's next.

00:32:42.380 You know, I think all roads lead back to the corruption of our elections.

00:32:47.120 Because you have the problem with not enough senators willing to get this across.

00:32:50.600 But you have the last three federal election cycles where if you restore these Republican losses that we've already mentioned, my count is that since 2020, if you take those three elections, we should have 62 Republican senators in office, not 53.

00:33:04.880 Well, once Saskatchewan and Alberta secede from Canada, which constitutionally they have the right to do, and maybe in the process of doing, and then become independent, then applying for statehood, I get you at least four more conservative members of the Senate and a bunch of conservative members of the House.

00:33:26.320 I'm thinking maybe Cuba and Venezuela, too, give us four more.

00:33:29.060 That's an interesting idea.

00:33:32.400 I wonder if the president would also then appoint Marco Rubio, in addition to being the archivist of the United States, the national security advisor, the secretary of state, but would also appoint him governor of Cuba.

00:33:47.780 That would be, you know, one more thing for him to put in his resume.

00:33:50.540 He's handled everything really well so far.

00:33:52.860 No, I'm very, very pleased and happy with my home state senator.

00:33:57.140 His politics were not always mine.

00:33:58.800 I did support him over Charlie Crist in the Tea Party circle, and I'm glad I did.

00:34:02.560 He has been a valiant warrior against Marxism and Marxist narco-trafficking in this hemisphere, where he and Trump are obviously, based on what they did in Doral this weekend with all those Central and South American leaders, in this new coalition to fight the narco-drug trafficking that is mostly done by these leftist Marxist states in this hemisphere.

00:34:26.320 I think that is laudable.

00:34:29.080 If I were the Cubans, I'd be very, very, very nervous right now.

00:34:33.700 After big wins in Venezuela and Honduras and cutting off Cuba's oil, is Cuba next to fall?

00:34:40.420 We'll be right back with Captain Seth Ketchel.

00:34:42.560 So I've got to ask you a bit more about the 2020 elections and how you see 2026 shaping up.

00:34:50.940 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:34:54.560 He likes politics and he's a professional.

00:34:57.160 At the highest level, Roger Stone.

00:35:00.080 Where's Roger?

00:35:17.840 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:35:21.400 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.

00:35:25.140 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:35:26.280 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.

00:35:29.040 Now, get him a zone.

00:35:30.960 It's the Stone Zone.

00:35:32.900 Here's Roger Stone.

00:35:34.760 And we're back with Captain Seth Ketchel.

00:35:37.260 He has a very lively feed over there at Substack.

00:35:41.260 He is an author, election integrity analyst, former U.S. Army intelligence captain.

00:35:46.600 And he is also, I think, a very shrewd reader of political trends.

00:35:52.540 I do have to ask you, in your new book, which is The American War on Election Corruption, The Crusade to Restore Trust in Voting, which I highly recommend to you, you say that elections are not stolen but rigged.

00:36:05.880 What do you mean by that?

00:36:06.760 You know, it was actually Newt Gingrich's comment about the elections not being stolen but rigged.

00:36:12.080 And I wanted to pick the speaker right to forward because, you know, we all, you and I, Roger, we've toured a lot of events and we tend to talk in circles.

00:36:18.940 And one of the more difficult audiences, and we deal with them all the time in Arizona, regular rank-and-file Republicans that may not like the president's style who don't want to talk about election corruption.

00:36:28.180 And I always knew that Speaker Gingrich felt the same way about elections that I did.

00:36:31.840 And by not stolen but rigged, I mean that the 2024 election made it very obvious to me what the capabilities and capacities of the various states to produce which ballot counts are.

00:36:41.920 And it's all based on what types of laws they have on the books.

00:36:44.560 So, while Governor DeSantis may say that he's got the gold standard of elections, I wouldn't call it that.

00:36:49.820 I would say maybe states like Iowa have the gold standard of elections.

00:36:53.440 But for a large state, clamping down on how much cheating is possible with the more than 3 million mail-in ballots that Florida has every cycle has really turned that state into a blowout.

00:37:03.360 I mean, nobody's going to win Florida for the Democrats for our lifetime, my lifetime, and I'm 41 years old.

00:37:07.860 So, forcing voters to request a mail-in ballot, verify addresses, that really tamps down on how much cheating is possible.

00:37:14.680 So, rigging is done by what types of laws?

00:37:17.080 The big three laws are automatic voter registration, universal mail-in voting, and ballot harvesting.

00:37:22.160 You have those.

00:37:22.880 You have a Democrat superpower.

00:37:24.420 Yeah, it's very interesting, the trend in Florida.

00:37:26.600 Now, for the first time, Republicans have over 1 million voter registration edge over Florida Democrats.

00:37:34.660 This was a state that until not that long ago was a purple state rather than a red state, become a solidly red state.

00:37:41.820 A lot of this has to do with Hispanic Americans beyond Cubans, Venezuelans, even Puerto Ricans, who are more traditionally Democratic, gravitating to the new Republican Party of Donald Trump.

00:37:54.360 And, therefore, I think it is easy to say at this point, whoever wins the Republican nomination, it would be Governor of Florida, most likely Congressman Byron Donalds, who's been endorsed by the president, based on that endorsement alone.

00:38:08.480 But whoever wins the Republican nomination, there are several other candidates.

00:38:12.100 The Democrats have no bench here, and their party has atrophied very badly.

00:38:18.200 Well, Roger, there's a few things in Florida I like to watch.

00:38:22.460 There are three things in Florida I really like to watch.

00:38:24.800 Number one, Miami-Dade County is a pretty interesting opportunity for the Republicans everywhere.

00:38:30.420 I get frustrated watching the party in Pennsylvania.

00:38:32.960 They don't seem to realize that if they could just go into Philadelphia County and be anti-crime, anti-corruption, and be 10 percent better, they could never lose the state again, based on the trend in the rest of the state.

00:38:42.100 So, Miami-Dade County offers an urban roadmap for Republicans if they can figure out how to replicate that.

00:38:47.140 Number two, the overall trend of Florida.

00:38:50.000 So, Florida was R-plus 7.8 percent by registration, 1.1 million more Republicans than Democrats when Trump won by 13 points.

00:38:57.460 Now it's R-plus 11.2, almost 1.5 million advantage.

00:39:01.300 What that means is Florida is on pace to be redder than Texas in the next presidential election, whether that's J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio as the party nominee.

00:39:07.880 And Florida has a 1952 to present, brand present, in which Pennsylvania and Michigan move in the same direction as Florida.

00:39:15.820 So, Florida's current lean suggests very strongly that the next Republican nominee will carry both Pennsylvania and Michigan.

00:39:21.040 And then the third thing I like to watch is Duval County, Jacksonville.

00:39:23.840 It has shifted in the same direction as Georgia in every presidential election since 2004.

00:39:28.160 So, I can't get party registration figures in Georgia because they don't register by party.

00:39:32.920 But I can read them in Duval County, and Duval County is almost flipped to a Republican registration advantage.

00:39:37.620 You know, some of these demographic trends are very, very interesting.

00:39:41.500 Of course, they also, the negative side, look at New York City and the white flight, the flight of Catholics, the flight of working class white voters changing that Democrat primary to produce a mem dummy. 0.75

00:39:56.020 You know, there's never enough time.

00:39:57.380 I'm going to have Captain Seth Ketchum back because I want to get his thoughts on 2026 and 2028.

00:40:02.820 I think we beat up the last election pretty good tonight.

00:40:07.000 Seth, good luck with your book again, The American War on Election Corruption, The Crusade to Restore Trust in Voting, by Captain Seth Ketchum.

00:40:15.520 You can go to Amazon.

00:40:16.760 Grab your copy right now.

00:40:18.440 Yeah, thank you very much, Roger, for having me on.

00:40:20.880 All right.

00:40:21.840 I think that wraps it up.

00:40:24.180 Thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.

00:40:26.340 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.

00:40:29.420 This is Greg Kelly.

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