The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 03-11-25

00:00:00.000 this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone

00:00:16.060 now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone

00:00:22.120 welcome into the stone zone we have breaking news yesterday we had an exclusive report that a man

00:00:33.660 was detained in the u.s capitol in the very room where president donald trump was on the night of

00:00:40.840 his state of the union address we also reported that a man had been detained with a gun inside

00:00:48.600 the capitol the very same day that president trump was inaugurated in the capitol rotunda

00:00:55.060 we can now report based on our exclusive report that the capitol hill police chief thomas manger

00:01:05.640 has resigned adding to our report is the fact that manger worked as a lobbyist from 2019 to 2020

00:01:16.980 getting over 2.3 billion dollars from the biden administration for his client l3 again the

00:01:28.960 breaking news the chief of the capitol hill police department has resigned on the basis of our report

00:01:36.500 yesterday it's kind of tomorrow's news today uh with the john f kennedy assassination files

00:01:45.060 set to be released to the public a memo written by the former president 10 days before his death

00:01:51.940 has now resurfaced in the letter dated november 12 1963 jfk allegedly requested that the cia director

00:02:02.980 brief him on all ufo intelligence the president's letter stressed the importance of knowing what

00:02:10.580 objects in the skies are unknown in the events that the soviets at the time mistake a ufo as an america

00:02:19.460 vessel spying on the russians defenses the president's letter says and i quote when this data has been

00:02:27.620 sorted out i would like you to arrange a program of data sharing with nasa the national space

00:02:33.860 administration where unknowns are a factor the memo said this will help nasa in its mission in terms of

00:02:41.700 their defensive responsibilities this document was obtained by william lester a man who claimed it was

00:02:48.580 released to him under the freedom of information act while researching a book that he wrote in 2011.

00:02:54.820 uh the letter has not appeared anywhere else but in lester's books but we have confirmed its

00:03:01.780 authenticity this letter from president kennedy or i should say memo came during the cold war and

00:03:08.820 during the space race and almost two months before jfk proposed a joint lunar program with the soviets

00:03:16.420 because he believed more discoveries would be made if the two nations worked together the memo states

00:03:22.820 that jfk instructed james webb who was then the administrator of nasa to quote develop a program

00:03:30.420 with the soviet union in joint space and lunar exploration kennedy said in september 1963 that if

00:03:39.140 the u.s and the soviets were to come together in space they would need a new approach to the war

00:03:45.940 that included quote a desire not to bury one's adversary but to compete in a host of peaceful

00:03:52.820 arenas in ideas in production and ultimately in service to all mankind so the question obviously

00:04:01.060 is raised as to whether one of the reasons that president john f kennedy was murdered was because

00:04:07.460 he was asking about ufos in late january of course president donald trump signed an executive order

00:04:15.300 authorizing the release of all of the remaining classified records regarding the 1963 shooting of

00:04:22.660 kennedy the problem with that is that the president specifically ordered the release of all of the

00:04:30.020 the materials that are contained in the jfk assassinations record archive that is maintained

00:04:37.700 by the archivist uh as i have pointed out however there are documents pertaining to kennedy's murder

00:04:45.700 still in the possession of the central intelligence agency the fbi the irs the department of state

00:04:53.140 uh as well as the department of defense until all of those documents are collected and released

00:05:00.740 unclassified i doubt we will know the truth about the murder of john f kennedy in fact i'm not sure this

00:05:08.180 will tell us anything other quite likely cementing the role of the central intelligence agency uh in the

00:05:17.060 the murder of an american president uh meanwhile a radio talk show host in delaware filed a letter

00:05:23.620 with the u.s district court for delaware requesting that the court unseal the search warrant applications

00:05:30.340 and the affidavits in hunter biden's criminal case this happened last friday the judge gave all parties

00:05:38.580 hunter biden and his attorneys as well as the applicant in court one week to file their responses

00:05:46.260 president joe biden's son was pardoned by his father back on december 1st after being convicted on

00:05:52.340 federal gun and tax evasion charges a move that you may remember was blasted by both republicans

00:05:59.620 and some biden supporters pursuant to that pardon the judge terminated the case against hunter biden

00:06:08.180 back on december 2nd the letter that was sent to a delaware federal court was sent by jake smith

00:06:15.460 a talk show host at wgmd a station that serves five counties in delaware smith wrote that he was

00:06:23.540 making the request as a member of the public and press and as a broadcaster here in delaware

00:06:31.460 he asked the judge to unseal the search warrant applications and the affidavits corresponding to

00:06:37.220 warrants in hunter biden's case smith concluded his letter by asking the courts to unseal the requested

00:06:44.020 records without redactions the goal here obviously is to determine whether hunter biden was given

00:06:52.340 favorable treatment by the biden justice department we'll be following this story and happy to say that

00:07:00.580 wgmd is one of the many stations that carries this very show on the red apple audio network

00:07:09.860 uh six criminals who were pardoned with joe biden's auto penned that was those pardons were signed in

00:07:19.700 the city of washington dc on the same day that joe biden was actually on the island of saint croix

00:07:27.460 vacationing obviously not possible for the president to be in two places last week missouri attorney general

00:07:35.060 andrew bailey asked the justice department to investigate whether white house staffers exploited

00:07:42.100 joe biden's cognitive decline and issued far left orders at the end of his presidency without his

00:07:49.060 knowledge that would make some sense when you look at the fact that joe biden biden in several cases

00:07:55.300 pardoned hardened criminals who had shown remorse but been convicted of murder when their families had not

00:08:02.340 even petitioned for such pardon uh andrew bailey the attorney general of missouri said i am demanding

00:08:10.180 the doj investigate whether president trump's cognitive decline allowed unelected staff to push through

00:08:16.900 radical policies without his knowing approval bailey went on to say if in fact biden staffers were

00:08:23.620 exploiting his mental decline those orders signed by joe biden would be null and void that would mean of

00:08:32.020 course that all of those preemptive pardons uh nancy pelosi for example adam schiff

00:08:42.100 and many others would be avoided now bailey cited joe biden's decision to commute the death sentences of

00:08:50.740 nearly 40 prisoners on death row the heritage foundation's oversight project uncovered this truth that

00:08:59.060 many executive orders signed by former president biden were authorized with identical auto pen signatures

00:09:06.260 this all raises the question well who was really running the country

00:09:13.140 stacy abrams is back in the news you remember her she was the twice a defeated candidate for governor of georgia

00:09:21.540 she has now under oath admitted that her non-profit obscured a massive grant from the biden administration

00:09:30.020 this is part and parcel of the kind of information that elon musk is under covering in his doge project

00:09:37.780 where he is diving deeply into waste fraud and corruption this one however is extraordinary abrams

00:09:50.260 actually said on msnbc that a two billion dollar epa grant was used to buy votes of georgia by

00:09:58.580 purchasing them purchasing them new appliances all of this fraudulent use of u.s taxpayer dollars

00:10:07.300 so the epa administrator lee zeldin of new york former congressman slammed abrams this past sunday

00:10:14.500 saying that stacy abrams linked powered forward communities received two billion dollars in tax

00:10:22.500 dollars in 2024 after reporting just 100 of revenue the very year before these people were so unqualified

00:10:32.260 for the grant agreement that the ngo was required to complete how to develop a budget training within

00:10:39.540 90 days that is what they allegedly got the two billion four former president joe biden paved the

00:10:46.260 way for this fraud with several major rules that had impacted home appliances during his presidency

00:10:52.660 these rules affect efficiency standards with the alleged goal of saving consumers money and reducing

00:10:59.140 pollution over the course of several years were taken advantage of by abrams who used those programs 1.00

00:11:05.940 to buy appliances and trade them for votes if you're just tuning in this is the stone zone on the red apple

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00:12:40.100 this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger stone who's sitting in the

00:12:58.580 office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now he's cleaner than anybody in this

00:13:03.940 place now as they treated him very unfairly now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone

00:13:15.140 and you're back in the stone zone again the breaking news based on our report on the stone zone yesterday

00:13:23.300 the chief of the capitol hill police has resigned thomas manger uh we revealed that a man had been apprehended

00:13:32.180 uh twice in the capitol uh once uh on the very night that donald trump was in the capitol to give his

00:13:41.300 state of the union address and then on another occasion when he was there to be sworn in as

00:13:46.180 president in the capitol rotunda we also revealed that the police chief worked as a lobbyist uh and uh

00:13:55.300 got a two plus billion dollar grant for one of his clients out of the biden administration now if you

00:14:05.140 think that the fraud that stacy abrams engaged in that we just spoke about essentially buying appliances

00:14:13.780 using a federal grant and then trading them for votes uh here's an even bigger scandal a 375

00:14:22.740 billion dollar slush fund was handed to john podestia you remember him he was hillary clinton's

00:14:29.940 campaign manager who then went back into the biden white house to try to work the levers of government

00:14:37.460 to uh affect the 2024 election uh the biden administration funneled at least 20 billion dollars

00:14:46.580 into environmental groups some of which had only recently been founded in one case former vice

00:14:53.460 president kamala harris handed over a check for nearly seven billion dollars to a bethesda maryland-based

00:15:01.220 group climate united which does not appear in the irs's charity databases and has no known federal

00:15:09.860 filings the non-profit fund had only been incorporated in delaware on november 30th 2023

00:15:18.100 according to public records examined by us here at the stone zone five months before harris handed over

00:15:24.260 the cash in april 2024 uh quite extraordinary there is no publicly published accounting of how

00:15:32.900 climate united fund plans to spend that seven billion dollars at the time ethically speaking

00:15:40.100 it's very concerning said laurie styron the ceo of charity watch an independent charity watchdog group

00:15:49.220 the huge 370 billion dollar climate slush fund of taxpayer money paying these exorbitant sums of money was

00:15:58.020 overseen again by john podesta the failed chairman of hillary clinton's 2016 bid for president podesta you

00:16:05.220 may remember was famously disgraced in the satanic spirit cooking scandal uh it is uh also interesting

00:16:14.420 a report i saw this morning way back in 1988 when i visited new hampshire with new york developer donald trump

00:16:23.220 first sticking his toe in the water regarding a presidential bid he specifically raised the

00:16:29.860 question that our nato allies are not and were not paying their fair share for their own defense now

00:16:39.140 president trump has induced the european nations to spend 800 billion dollars on their own defense even

00:16:48.100 today we have given 200 billion dollars more for the war in ukraine than any of the nato member nations

00:16:59.300 thanks to the negotiating america first positions of donald trump the european union has announced that

00:17:04.900 it will now spend an extra 800 billion dollars of their own money for defense of their own region

00:17:11.860 that announcement came after president trump halted u.s military raid aid to ukraine european leaders held

00:17:20.500 emergency talks in brussels before agreeing on this massive increase in defense spending the french

00:17:26.900 president emmanuel macron said the only imperial power i see today in europe is russia and called

00:17:34.260 putin an imperialist who seeks to rewrite history only two days ago president donald trump said that if the

00:17:41.540 russians did not come to the peace talk tables with ukraine that he would hit them with sanctions

00:17:50.260 and other punitive action it is absolutely clear that the president understands that it takes two to tango

00:17:59.300 and that he is committed to a peace process this idea that he is in the pocket of putin is disproved

00:18:07.700 by his recent threats to the russians that they must come to the bargaining table when we come back

00:18:14.980 colonel john mills joins us to talk about the situation in syria and more you're listening to

00:18:20.020 the stone zone whatever you do don't touch that dial because we'll be right back

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00:18:41.060 I'm not your stepping stone.

00:19:05.160 This is the Stone Zone.

00:19:07.360 Now, get in the zone. 0.94

00:19:09.040 It's the Stone Zone.

00:19:11.320 Here's Roger Stone.

00:19:15.920 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.

00:19:18.680 This is the place for politics, including geopolitics.

00:19:22.980 Joining me now is Colonel John Mills.

00:19:26.280 He's the former director of cybersecurity policy, strategy, and international affairs at the U.S. Department of Defense.

00:19:34.460 He has served his country in four eras, the Cold War, during the peace dividend, the war on terror, and now today, the world in chaos.

00:19:45.100 Colonel Mills is a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy, and he writes a very, very lively column at Substack.

00:19:55.940 I urge you to check that out.

00:19:57.900 Colonel Mills, thank you for joining us.

00:20:01.620 Roger, just always an honor to be on the show with you.

00:20:04.480 Thank you.

00:20:04.980 So, I saw a great video last night.

00:20:08.320 Almost 10 years ago, Donald Trump, in an interview, expressed a concern about Syria, saying that although he did not love Assad in every regard,

00:20:21.280 that he feared that if Assad were to be toppled in Syria, what would come afterwards would be much, much worse.

00:20:30.280 Tulsi Gabbard, who is now the director of national intelligence, then a Democrat congresswoman, expressed the same concern.

00:20:38.720 She visited Assad, as did, by the way, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and at the time, she expressed concern about the potential mass slaughter of Christians if Islamic extremists were allowed to retake control of the country.

00:20:56.960 Now, for anybody who can see, that is precisely what has happened.

00:21:02.120 The footage that we're seeing of video and reports from Syria, very reminiscent of the mass slaughter in Libya, assess for us what is going on in the ground today in Syria.

00:21:16.880 Colonel Mills.

00:21:19.140 No, Roger.

00:21:20.540 It's horrible.

00:21:21.840 This is what has been a multi-faction, multi-party civil war.

00:21:28.740 It is an absolute mess, and one of the reasons we really should not have gotten involved, the, yeah, Assad was a thug, and I'm not in any way advocating for him, but we really, the Biden team really created this mess.

00:21:50.400 They were just obsessed with toppling Assad, and then what?

00:21:57.340 But we've seen this before.

00:21:58.660 They were obsessed with toppling Muammar Gaddafi in Libya.

00:22:06.000 They were obsessed with the Arab Spring, and then what?

00:22:09.940 It is just, it's an absolute mess on violence and bloodshed.

00:22:17.300 There's a number of minority groups, and Assad was part of, the Alawites are a minority group in the Islamic faith.

00:22:27.800 And the, but they are, they are getting slaughtered right now.

00:22:34.440 They were able to take control.

00:22:36.560 His father was able to take control, but now they are being, they are, they are being very roughly treated and executed on a large scale.

00:22:46.460 But this is, this is what happens.

00:22:48.600 They're obsessed, the Obama-Biden team, the globalists, are obsessed with getting involved.

00:22:55.640 And then what?

00:22:57.660 Yeah, it is interesting.

00:22:59.620 We seem to be moving closer to the possibility of peace.

00:23:03.880 The Ukrainians, I think hours ago, agreed to a ceasefire.

00:23:07.920 I believe that report is correct.

00:23:09.540 I saw it just before we began the show.

00:23:12.000 President Trump putting pressure on the Russians last week, saying that if they did not come to the table, that he would resort to sanctions, and worse.

00:23:24.760 Said that on his Truth Social posting.

00:23:27.780 So much for the idea that he is in bed with Putin.

00:23:32.080 What do you think our prospects are of a negotiated settlement, or at least a negotiated ceasefire at this point?

00:23:39.920 Well, I, I think it's, he's making 101, is you can't, you can't do it unless both sides are interested in cease, ceasing a conflict.

00:23:55.600 I think we might be at that point.

00:23:58.380 I think Zelensky, I think overplayed his hands.

00:24:02.180 I think he was really, this was a, almost a January 6th, like set up when he came to the White House.

00:24:09.100 It didn't turn out well for Zelensky, but, and all the folks who put him up to this.

00:24:15.840 But I think, I think we're at the point.

00:24:18.620 And Zelensky went back, tried to make amends for the mess he had made in the White House.

00:24:27.200 And I think he's, he's ready.

00:24:29.540 It, you know, getting back immediately large swaths of land is just, that's not a starting point.

00:24:40.100 And their, their Kursk salient seems to be under duress and even shrinking with the cutoff of aid to the Ukrainians.

00:24:52.580 And so I think he's, he's ready to, to settle down and talk peace.

00:24:57.540 It appears that way.

00:24:59.240 Did you see reports that said that former Biden administration officials, including Antony Blinken,

00:25:09.300 former Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland, who is herself, I think, the architect of the disaster that we call Ukraine. 0.56

00:25:18.840 Also, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman and Congressman, pardon me, Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut,

00:25:29.700 all met prior to his meeting with the president, all met with Zelensky,

00:25:35.780 and urged him not to take the mineral deal that the president had on the table or any peace deal.

00:25:42.160 Now, by my reading, I think that that is a violation of the Logan Act.

00:25:47.560 You can only have one foreign policy.

00:25:50.200 Private citizens cannot conduct foreign policy.

00:25:53.520 And foreign policy is defined as meeting and talking with foreign leaders.

00:26:01.060 Do you agree with me that this is, if, if an investigation proved that they did indeed meet with either as a group or individually,

00:26:10.040 or speak with Zelensky prior to his meeting with Trump, that they're, they have seriously violated the law and they ought to be prosecuted.

00:26:19.000 Yeah, well, the Logan Act is just one of those laws that is only invoked or has meaning if it's being used against somebody with an R behind their name.

00:26:28.920 I mean, let's just get real on this.

00:26:31.940 Yeah, I think we should absolutely, the whirlwind of activity by the, just the lightning movement of the different Trump appointees in the departments and agencies.

00:26:45.600 I think Pam Bondi should make this a priority and give it as a tasker to, ask Patel to investigate. 0.85

00:26:54.760 This is just absolutely sick.

00:26:56.700 They played this game against General Flynn, who was not violating the Logan Act.

00:27:03.600 He actually was the incoming national security advisor, very reasonable for him to have, have some engagements with foreign powers.

00:27:13.320 And here they are just, I mean, I, you know, we got to throw in Eric Ciarmella, you know, one of the just thugs of the, of the whole coup when he was inside CIA.

00:27:29.060 Now he's, uh, he was, uh, an advisor to Ukraine and he was getting paid, uh, with taxpayer dollars.

00:27:37.120 So another, a variation of the laundering campaign.

00:27:39.880 So, uh, yeah, absolutely.

00:27:41.740 Every one of these need to be investigated.

00:27:43.260 And of course he was, as we now know, the so-called whistleblower, uh, who came forward or was recruited by Adam Schiff to pull together the Ukrainian impeachment hoax.

00:27:55.140 You, you, you wonder whether there's going to be any consequences for these people.

00:27:59.440 I just pulled up President Trump's exact, uh, uh, posting on True Social.

00:28:04.860 He says, uh, based on the fact that Russia is absolutely pounding Ukraine on the battlefield right now, I'm strongly considering large-scale banking sanctions, sanctions, and tariffs on Russia until a ceasefire and final settlement agreement on peace is reached.

00:28:21.440 To Russia and Ukraine, I say, get to the table right now before it's too late. 0.98

00:28:27.320 So much for the idea that Donald Trump is somehow controlled by Vladimir Putin.

00:28:32.880 Uh, you are, uh, an expert on cyber security.

00:28:37.160 Uh, a U.S. tanker was on fire in the North Sea, one of only 10 that supports the Department of Defense.

00:28:43.660 Uh, I think this shows an extraordinarily weak maritime position.

00:28:47.580 Uh, you wrote about this.

00:28:49.340 Was this a cyber attack?

00:28:52.040 Well, I think that is absolutely something that has to stay on the table, just like the Baltimore Bridge.

00:28:59.980 Maritime cyber security is a very weak and nascent area, and, and we're also weak and nascent in maritime, uh, you know, we're the largest economy in the world, have the smallest merchant fleet in the world.

00:29:15.040 This doesn't make any sense.

00:29:16.200 Uh, we have no representation at the key UN body, the International Maritime Organization, which is totally bat guano crazy on woke issues. 0.99

00:29:27.900 But cyber security is a very, it's a very nascent issue, and it's just not being, uh, addressed.

00:29:35.120 But let's go back to the evergreen ship that, uh, decided to take a hard left turn and got stuck in the Suez Canal.

00:29:42.740 You think that just came out of nowhere?

00:29:45.160 Uh, we, our folks don't even know how to look for indicators of cyber intrusion in these different maritime systems.

00:29:53.340 So, you know, the Boston, or excuse me, the Baltimore Bridge episode of last year, you know, within seconds, uh, you had the FBI typically saying, no foreign, uh, involvement.

00:30:05.360 How do you even know within 30 seconds of such a catastrophe, uh, whether there's a, you know, you, you, these are absolutely reasonable concerns.

00:30:14.800 You can push malware through radio frequency to download onto a ship, and a ship, uh, one of the basic, uh, uh, systems that is used, that has been shown it can be spoofed over and over again is AIS, uh, the Automatic Identification System, which is essentially the equivalent of ADS-B for aircraft,

00:30:38.620 which we now know there was issues with ADS-B on the air crash in, uh, Washington, D.C.

00:30:45.540 But, uh, yeah, I mean, who, look, the Portuguese tanker T-boned and ran at speed into a, a moored.

00:30:56.640 We were at, uh, the American tanker was at, uh, at, it was at anchor.

00:31:01.060 Uh, and the Portuguese tanker ran right into it, T-boned, uh, and whether it did not appear, visibility did not appear to have been an issue,

00:31:09.800 I think it's absolutely reasonable to be concerned, and my understanding is that the, uh, that the new office in the White House is absolutely keeping this on the table in the investigation.

00:31:22.040 Uh, folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Colonel John Mills.

00:31:26.760 He is the former director of Cybersecurity Policy Strategy, uh, for the, uh, and International Affairs for the U.S. Department of Defense.

00:31:36.100 He's also a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

00:31:41.040 Uh, we've been talking about the situation in Ukraine.

00:31:44.480 Uh, we've been talking, uh, about, uh, our cybersecurity.

00:31:49.280 Uh, and when we come back, we're going to continue this discussion.

00:31:52.380 Colonel Mills believes that our Navy needs a lot more ships by 2030.

00:31:57.900 I'm going to ask him to tell us why and what can be done to bolster the strength of our Navy.

00:32:03.960 So whatever you do, don't go away.

00:32:06.220 We'll be right back in to the Stone Zone.

00:32:08.320 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:32:38.320 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:32:58.540 They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.

00:33:02.500 And I'll say this in front of Roger, he's no baby.

00:33:04.880 And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.

00:33:07.800 Now, as they treated him very unfairly.

00:33:11.100 Now, get him a zone.

00:33:12.920 It's the Stone Zone.

00:33:14.960 Here's Roger Stone.

00:33:18.820 And we're back with Colonel John Mills.

00:33:22.400 Colonel John Mills is a national security professional.

00:33:25.940 Uh, he is, uh, as I say, the former director of cybersecurity, policy, strategy, and international affairs for the U.S. Department of Defense.

00:33:34.440 He's currently a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

00:33:37.740 And again, he has a very lively and informative column at Substack.

00:33:43.160 I urge you to check that out.

00:33:45.520 Colonel Mills, you've said that our U.S. Navy needs 355 new ships by 2030.

00:33:52.740 Why do we need this?

00:33:54.440 And is there, do you think we're going to achieve that goal?

00:33:57.940 Oh, yeah.

00:33:59.320 The exact number has been elusive for the last 10 years.

00:34:05.860 It's in the Navy staffed an organization called N9.

00:34:09.640 It's supposed to come up with the correct number.

00:34:11.440 This spreadsheet is just, I mean, this is a bit harder to do than find out the reason behind Vince Foster's passing.

00:34:22.780 I mean, this has just been, this number has been all over the map.

00:34:27.120 And, uh, just a litany of Navy captains, Navy admirals have failed to come up with a consistent number.

00:34:36.980 But the reality is our industrial base is an absolute whisper of what it used to be.

00:34:45.580 And so we have the, essentially the smallest fleet since before, you know, the mid-1930s.

00:34:53.380 And, frankly, we just don't have the capacity to even, uh, to even meet 355, 400, 455, whatever the correct number is.

00:35:03.600 Uh, we do have a ship, uh, building office now for the president in the White House.

00:35:09.540 I believe it's, uh, it's, uh, uh, retired Navy captain, doctor, uh, and he goes by Jimmy Hendricks, uh, is the leader.

00:35:18.300 Very qualified, very competent, a great individual.

00:35:21.240 But we have a gaping canyon between the size today and just even the small growth that we want to make.

00:35:33.220 Why?

00:35:33.580 Because our shipyard capacity is, is just atrophied to an incredible level.

00:35:40.760 So what is this going to take?

00:35:42.280 I think it takes a comprehensive maritime strategy.

00:35:45.200 The first and foremost, it actually focuses on the civilian size, because the reason we were able to create the arsenal of democracy in, uh, World War II was because we had a pretty robust manufacturing capacity in the United States.

00:35:59.020 We could just pivot over.

00:36:00.640 We don't have that anymore because of decades of globalism.

00:36:04.320 We have just eviscerated.

00:36:06.080 And yes, it's making a comeback.

00:36:08.540 Yes, that's a priority of President Trump and Dr. Navarro.

00:36:11.760 But we're, we're going to have to think things differently, but we're going to have to focus on the civilian side and the civilian infrastructure.

00:36:18.440 We're going to have to do things like targeted capital gains, tax cuts, targeted corporate tax cuts.

00:36:25.660 We're going to have to do things like, you know, be careful about government money, but this is one where we create what are called government owned contractor operated, uh, yards, where we do use government money to create absolutely brand new sparkling facilities.

00:36:44.900 Uh, but then we're going to have contractors operate, operate them.

00:36:48.300 And that's actually been a very good model, despite the dysfunction of the Department of Defense and many other ways.

00:36:53.980 We're going to have to leverage key foreign partners, such as South Korea, the world's largest shipbuilder and Taiwan.

00:37:02.960 And if it means they, they make, uh, parts of our ships and then they are brought over here on what are called float on float off vessels.

00:37:10.800 Uh, then we do that.

00:37:12.580 It's just like the, the Japanese auto industry saved America in the seventies.

00:37:17.180 The big three were an absolute mess, producing everything the customer didn't want and doing it very inefficiently.

00:37:24.780 The Japanese came in and totally, uh, turned around the American car system. 1.00

00:37:30.380 We may have to do that, but also we have to focus on new types of approaches to the defense industrial base,

00:37:38.280 not the classic big companies that have evolved because they, they can, they can accept and survive in the absolute dysfunction of the Department of Defense acquisition process.

00:37:50.680 We're going to have to bring in new companies that actually innovate.

00:37:54.340 And, and yeah, I will shout out one and a real is, is, is a model for this.

00:37:59.620 They are, they make incredible defense products.

00:38:03.180 And then if they, if the government Watson, the government can go and get them, but they don't sit there.

00:38:09.060 And they have not focused on, on, um, hovering over and, uh, uh, fawning over the Department of Defense in the current dysfunctional process and trying to, you know, get the government to pay them to develop something that they want in the dysfunctional process.

00:38:27.120 But we're going to have to think differently on how, on this buildup.

00:38:30.740 All right.

00:38:31.540 I'm afraid we're going to have to leave it there.

00:38:33.400 I want to thank our guest, Colonel John Mills.

00:38:35.760 I urge you to check out his lively writing at substack.com.

00:38:41.160 Uh, and thank you, Colonel Mills for joining us in the stone zone.

00:38:45.540 Again, uh, the breaking news today, the police chief of the Capitol Hill police, uh, resigned after it was revealed here on the stone zone that on two occasions, both during the inauguration, uh, and during the state of the union, a man was apprehended with a gun inside the Capitol.

00:39:03.340 The Capitol Hill police chief, the Capitol Hill police chief, Thomas Manning, uh, has resigned.

00:39:08.540 Uh, we thank you again for joining us in the stone zone where we always try to bring you the inside story on what's happening in our nation's Capitol and across the country until the next time.

00:39:20.540 God bless you.

00:39:21.320 And Godspeed.

00:39:22.740 Godspeed.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 11, 2025

The Stone Zone ｜ 03-11-25

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