The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 13, 2026


The Stone Zone ｜ 03-12-26

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STEVE BANNON'S Epstein scandal Italian American Civil Rights League Roger Stone CFA lawfare efforts
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Jeffrey Epstein Donald Trump Letitia James Lindsay Halligan Hillary Clinton Steve Bannon James Comey Liz Cheney Alex Acosta Bill Pulte Cassidy Hutchinson Replacing Churchill Michael Flynn Eric Siebert Tova Noel Michelle Kuppersmith George Soros Daniel Richman Jerome Powell David Schoen and 42 more
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After Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in a Florida prison in 2019, many assumed it was an apparent suicide. But new details emerged that suggest otherwise. Rep. James Comer (R-Kentucky) is intensifying scrutiny of the federal government s handling of Epstein s death, and is even considering subpoenaing a former prison guard.

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00:00:00.000 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:00:14.120 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.
00:00:16.860 Now, get in the zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.
00:00:23.540 You are now diving head first into the deep end of the Stone Zone.
00:00:29.180 Now, House Oversight Chairman James Comer, Republican of Kentucky, is intensifying scrutiny of the federal government's handling of Jeffrey Epstein's death, announcing plans to subpoena former prison guard Tova Noel, as new details have arisen, raising major questions about what really happened inside the Metropolitan Correction Center in 2019.
00:00:55.240 You will recall that after it was declared that Jeffrey Epstein had killed himself, Epstein's family retained the noted former New York medical examiner Michael Baden, one of the most respected pathologists in the country.
00:01:12.600 And it was a statement from Baden that said that the broken bones in Epstein's neck were inconsistent with the method of hanging that was ascribed to his suicide.
00:01:26.120 Nonetheless, Attorney General Bill Barr was quick to insist that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
00:01:33.620 We also know, of course, that on the Thursday before his death, Epstein retained a new criminal defense attorney, David Schoen.
00:01:42.600 reached terms with him, and then theoretically killed himself two days later.
00:01:49.260 Doesn't sound very logical.
00:01:52.000 Schoen has said publicly and right here in the Stone Zone that in his own conversations with Epstein,
00:01:58.400 Epstein insisted that he had no evidence and therefore no leverage against President Donald Trump.
00:02:05.840 But among the more recent troubling findings is the fact that there was a $5,000 deposit
00:02:14.720 into the bank account of prison guard Tova Noel just 10 days before Epstein died.
00:02:24.200 Banks typically don't flag deposits under $10,000, yet this one triggered a suspicious activity report,
00:02:31.300 something that Congressman Comer says investigators never fully examined.
00:02:37.240 Comer did make clear that no one is accusing this prison guard of wrongdoing,
00:02:42.440 but he says there's a lot of questions the American people still deserve answers to.
00:02:46.920 I agree on that.
00:02:49.000 Records show that Noel was one of the two prison guards on duty the night Epstein was found dead in Estelle.
00:02:56.360 Instead of conducting mandatory checks, she later admitted to sleeping and shopping online and falsifying the prison logs, failures that resulted in a deferred prosecution deal against her in 2021.
00:03:13.240 Computer records also showed that the prison guards searched online for updates about Epstein about 40 minutes before his body was discovered.
00:03:24.360 FBI analysts reportedly flagged the search as the only notable activity on the guard's computer that morning.
00:03:33.060 Chairman Comer says the oversight committee wants answers not just about the guard's conduct,
00:03:38.680 but about the broader features surrounding Epstein's case, including why federal authorities failed to prosecute him years earlier.
00:03:47.240 You'll recall that after the chief of police of the city of Palm Beach received a tip, he conducted a six-month undercover investigation and gave the state's attorney a case involving 33 underage girls, a sex trafficking case.
00:04:11.120 Also a case in which Epstein could have been charged with 21 counts of statutory rape.
00:04:19.740 The police chief, Michael Ryder, was shocked when the state's attorney, that's an elected position by the way,
00:04:27.060 only brought a charge of solicitation against Epstein.
00:04:31.720 That was after Epstein hired a dream team of criminal defense lawyers, including Leon Black, Alan Dershowitz, and others,
00:04:42.000 including Ken Starr, by the way, the former special counsel who investigated the Clintons in the Whitewater matter.
00:04:51.800 Comer says the Oversight Committee is going to look at all of these failures
00:04:56.800 and try to determine why in 2005 Epstein was not prosecuted on much broader charges.
00:05:07.200 Now, we do know anecdotally that Alex Acosta,
00:05:12.040 he was the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida
00:05:15.840 with responsibility for Palm Beach.
00:05:17.720 He was asked by a police chief writer to review the state's decision
00:05:22.460 and rather than provide sunlight, he rubber-stamped the state's charge
00:05:29.760 and he sealed the entire case.
00:05:32.840 If it were not for a prolonged legal battle by the Palm Beach Post
00:05:38.640 to unseal those documents, so we wouldn't know what had happened.
00:05:43.940 So we also know anecdotally that an attorney that I know,
00:05:49.680 an attorney who is a member of the Federalist Society, an attorney whose name you would
00:05:55.740 recognize if I said it now, who was involved in preparing Acosta for his confirmation hearings
00:06:03.440 when he was appointed Secretary of Labor by Donald Trump. By the way, no one told President
00:06:10.500 Trump that Acosta was the same man who had given Jeffrey Epstein a slap on the wrist. They had
00:06:17.480 simply told him that he was a highly qualified Hispanic Republican American who was well qualified for the job.
00:06:25.260 I was told at the time the president wasn't very happy about that.
00:06:29.140 But when Acosta, in the practice sessions for his secretary of labor confirmation hearings,
00:06:36.340 was asked why he had essentially just quietly sealed the Epstein case,
00:06:43.080 He said, well, I'm going to tell the truth, that he worked for the agency, and I was told by the Central Intelligence Agency to seal the case.
00:06:53.300 I think Acosta is among those who should testify for the Oversight Committee.
00:06:59.540 This has been a long time coming.
00:07:01.540 The public needs some serious answers, and the prosecutions regarding this case, in order for the faith in government, otherwise it will never be restored. 0.96
00:07:11.340 The Democrats continue to flame out Congressman Ted Lieu, saying just openly yesterday that we're not getting full disclosure about Epstein because President Donald Trump raped children.
00:07:23.940 This is the same Congressman Ted Lieu who was an intimate and who had a major donor, Ed Buck, who was in fact convicted of raping and murdering children. 0.92
00:07:36.380 There's many pictures of them together.
00:07:38.460 Now, this is what's called guilt by association. This is what Lou is trying. He has no evidence tying President Donald Trump to any misconduct. There was a woman, Katie Johnson, who claimed that Donald Trump had raped her when she was 13 years old.
00:07:57.100 She surfaced during the 2016 campaign. That also turned out to be a hoax. She is now being prosecuted for those false claims. So this whole thing, in my view, has backfired very badly for the Democrats. Who was on the island? I'll tell you who was on the island. Bill Clinton was on the island.
00:08:15.080 I say that because the sworn testimony of at least three of Epstein's victims, including Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who turned down a multi-million dollar settlement to press forward with her lawsuit against Epstein and later the Epstein estate, said in her sworn testimony that she saw Bill Clinton on the island.
00:08:36.680 that two 17-year-old twin sisters had been flown in for Bill's amusement. 0.95
00:08:44.380 She could not testify that she had seen Clinton engage in improper activity,
00:08:51.000 but that's because she was removed from the main room 1.00
00:08:54.460 and directed to have sex with another one of Epstein's guests.
00:09:00.860 But when she asked Epstein, this is in my 2015 book,
00:09:05.200 Clinton's War on Women. When she asked Epstein why Bill Clinton was on the island, she was told,
00:09:13.600 well, Epstein chuckled, he owes me a favor. More fallout from the Epstein scandal,
00:09:24.400 continued backlash over the announcement by the American Conservative Union that Steve Bannon
00:09:32.180 will be a featured speaker at the 2026 Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.
00:09:41.500 Now, I'm the one who convinced President Donald Trump to attend his first CPAC conference.
00:09:47.680 That was back in 2011 when he was just beginning to think about a 2012 candidacy for president.
00:09:56.760 But a number of important influencers across the board, Brendan Dilley, Cat Turd, many, many others saying that they will boycott CPAC if Bannon is indeed a featured speaker.
00:10:14.660 I joined that course this morning because I think, given what we now know from the emails that were released by the Department of Justice, Steve Bannon, who on the air on his show, The War Room, that's the title, by the way, he stole from me.
00:10:32.200 that was the name of my show when I used to be at InfoWars,
00:10:35.980 and continued to be the show of Owen Schroer after I left,
00:10:40.980 it is very clear that while on the air he was posing as a Trump loyalist and defender,
00:10:47.980 the emails with Epstein show a very different story.
00:10:50.940 He talks about removing Trump under the 25th Amendment. 1.00
00:10:54.460 He calls Trump stupid. 0.99
00:10:56.700 He says that he, Bannon, is the centerpiece of the MAGA movement, not Donald Trump. 1.00
00:11:05.140 He also seeks to join Epstein's legal team, but the most disturbing thing is that Bannon is constantly coaching Epstein on the rehabilitation of his image.
00:11:20.100 Now, they reportedly filmed 10 hours of video interview together,
00:11:27.500 and Bannon's cover story has been that that is for a documentary.
00:11:31.800 Well, if there was a planned documentary,
00:11:34.060 it was a documentary that was meant to be exculpatory.
00:11:37.480 They were going to try to clean up Epstein's public image.
00:11:42.600 I suspect that it was not, in fact, a documentary,
00:11:46.620 but practice sessions for a 60-minutes invitation that was canceled, of course, after Epstein was fired, or Epstein was arrested, pardon me.
00:12:00.980 So a lot of trouble for Steve Bannon today.
00:12:04.060 Also notice that the number of views for his show is down very sharply.
00:12:07.600 At its height, his show, Real America's Voice, used to get 150,000 to 170,000 views.
00:12:15.760 Yesterday, the show had 7,000 views.
00:12:19.640 I think that is very significant.
00:12:21.620 Very significant piece in Art Voice today by investigative reporter Frank Parlato.
00:12:27.840 Parlato maintains that the money that Epstein, pardon me, the money that Bannon was operating with
00:12:34.060 after leaving the White House, which came from a Chinese source, a man named Miles Guo,
00:12:40.420 was in fact CCP money, Chinese Communist Party money.
00:12:46.200 I checked the record on this.
00:12:48.740 Wen Guo, the funder of Steve Bannon, was asked under oath in a lawsuit in New York
00:12:56.000 whether his money came from the CCP and about the role of a certain William G,
00:13:02.300 that's GE, who has been established as a Chinese communist operative, he pled the fifth 55 times.
00:13:11.220 That does not prove, of course, that it is Chinese communist money, but it is certainly highly suspicious.
00:13:18.900 It's interesting because Guo was prosecuted in a $1 billion fraud and convicted.
00:13:25.960 Bannon would be an unindicted co-conspirator in that fraud.
00:13:31.880 In his piece, Parlato documents the extensive involvement of Bannon,
00:13:37.920 but one has to question why Bannon himself was not prosecuted.
00:13:43.280 We'll be back with more politics on the other side.
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00:13:56.880 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:14:00.260 And he's a great, great person, Roger Stone.
00:14:04.220 The Stone Zone.
00:14:24.600 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:14:28.960 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:14:32.880 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:14:34.100 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:14:37.180 Now, get in the zone. 0.94
00:14:39.000 It's The Stone Zone.
00:14:41.020 Here's Roger Stone.
00:14:44.260 Great to be back in The Stone Zone.
00:14:47.040 I want to express my thanks to the Italian American Civil Rights League.
00:14:51.980 That's a nonprofit organization.
00:14:54.600 that I belong to. Everybody involved is a volunteer, by the way. There's nobody paid here.
00:15:00.880 But we protect and stand up for Italian-American heritage and customs, and we're opposed to those 1.00
00:15:08.540 who would erase the tremendous contribution that Italian-Americans have made to this country.
00:15:15.200 Last night, they honored me with the kickoff of their South Florida chapter. It was an extraordinarily
00:15:22.400 extraordinarily moving and, I think, important time. We talk about political action by African
00:15:29.840 Americans and, of course, Hispanic Americans, Cuban Americans, and so on. The group of voters
00:15:37.540 who gave President Donald Trump the highest percentage of their vote are Italian-American
00:15:43.320 males. There's a little-known factoid. And I think it is important that those who are of Italian-American
00:15:51.380 extraction, stand up for the heritages and the customs and the traditions that we have brought
00:15:58.020 to make this country great. So I was pleased to be honored last night. Meanwhile, the White House
00:16:05.040 is blasting CBS News after the network hired a communications executive who previously worked
00:16:13.160 for one of President Donald Trump's most despicable and disgraced political adversaries.
00:16:17.580 That would be Congresswoman Liz Cheney, defeated for re-election in the Republican primary, Wyoming, by a record margin. 0.94
00:16:27.560 Jeremy Adler, a former communications advisor to Liz Cheney, is joining CBS News, according to sources familiar with the move.
00:16:36.360 This hiring is raising eyebrows inside the administration, giving Cheney's prominent role in leading the House investigation into the January 6th Capitol riot.
00:16:45.580 Those hearings were a complete fraud. I can tell you that the video and audio they played of me, which proved nothing whatsoever, by the way, was AI generated. And of course, the principal witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, perjured herself multiple times, talking about both me and General Flynn.
00:17:07.500 Sad that I have to say this, but any claim that I knew in advance about, participated in, or condoned any illegal action on January 6th or any other date is categorically false.
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00:18:34.020 Well, now former interim U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Lindsay Halligan, is being maligned in the media with false allegations that her actions have her under investigation by the Florida Bar Association insinuating that her actions at DOJ were in some way improper.
00:18:52.580 Last week, the New York Times breathlessly reported that she was under investigation, only to retract that the very next day because, well, it was false.
00:19:08.580 It seems that this was generated by a woman named Michelle Cuppersmith.
00:19:15.740 She works for one of the Soros Dark Money Funds, and these are the kind of groups that endanger this kind of lawfare.
00:19:25.940 Halligan was, of course, the former White House lawyer appointed interim U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia
00:19:32.700 when President Donald Trump learned that the sitting U.S. attorney, Eric Siebert,
00:19:38.500 who was charged with investigating potential charges against former FBI Director James Comey,
00:19:46.400 had never disclosed a glaring conflict on his part.
00:19:50.420 Turns out that Siebert's father-in-law, that is his wife's father,
00:19:55.700 is the godfather to James Comey's daughter, and also represented Comey as a private attorney.
00:20:03.740 Now, Halligan was appointed to the vacancy caused when Trump fired Siebert under the Government Vacancies Act.
00:20:15.140 Despite the fact that she had no prosecutorial experience, Halligan presented Comey's testimony to a grand jury showing that he denied giving any internal FBI information to third parties and directed them to leak that information to the media.
00:20:32.760 while showing proof that he had done exactly that in emails between himself and his lawyer and friend, Daniel Richman.
00:20:40.660 He actually directed Richman to leak the material that Comey had produced to the New York Times.
00:20:48.760 The only way to get the charges against Comey, and for that matter, New York Attorney General Letitia James,
00:20:54.900 who was also indicted by Halligan, dismissed, was to obtain a ruling by a federal judge that
00:21:03.080 Halligan's appointment as interim use attorney was somehow improper, although leading lawyers
00:21:09.400 concede that the Government Vacancies Act actually gave Trump the power to appoint Halligan.
00:21:15.020 In fact, the ruling that Halligan was improperly appointed was wrongly decided and is on active
00:21:21.100 appeal by the Department of Justice. I suspect that it will be overturned. If there's anybody
00:21:27.720 who ought to be investigated in this whole matter, it is the three federal judges who engaged in
00:21:33.400 illegal, unorthodox, and unethical conduct repeatedly, violating the Department of Justice's
00:21:39.960 canon of ethics for judges in an epic display of bias, abuse of the system, and non-stop personal
00:21:48.700 attacks on Halligan. Now, because Lindsay Halligan is a former beauty pageant winner, because she's 0.99
00:21:55.260 tall and very beautiful, she's also very smart, even though the media continued to try to deride
00:22:02.240 her as, quote, just an insurance lawyer. In fact, she had risen to become a senior partner at a major
00:22:10.860 Florida law firm where she headed their civil litigation division, and her expertise specifically
00:22:17.460 in the area of real estate and mortgage law, which was particularly handy in the investigation
00:22:23.860 and duly proper indictment of New York Attorney General Letitia James.
00:22:30.540 The unethical conduct of three judges, Judge Michael Nachmanoff, Judge Cameron McGowan-Curry,
00:22:38.740 and Judge William G. Fitzpatrick is so outrageous that a formal complaint with the U.S. Department
00:22:45.240 of Justice's Office of Prosecutor Responsibility is expected, and some House Republicans are
00:22:50.940 openly talking about formal articles of impeachment being introduced into the House. Now, even though
00:22:58.280 it is unlikely that you could ever get the two-thirds of the Senate necessary to impeach a
00:23:05.400 federal judge, sunlight is a great disinfectant, and I checked the Constitution. I can't find the
00:23:12.860 section that says the judicial branch has supremacy over the legislative branch. So I think
00:23:18.880 these judges should be called to explain a number of their rulings. That's the way democracy works.
00:23:26.820 Other lawyers repulsed by the false claim that Lindsay Alligat was under investigation
00:23:31.900 by the Florida Bar have vowed to file bar complaints against the three judges,
00:23:37.560 Although, frankly, the bars are mostly political operations.
00:23:44.240 The Campaign for Accountability, the CFA, which is a George Soros-funded front group, sent a letter to the Florida Bar claiming Halligan was guilty of various ethical violations after launching prosecutions against both former FBI Director Comer and the current New York Attorney General, Tisha James.
00:24:07.440 Those cases were therefore ultimately dismissed on technicalities, and now the system is coming for their pound of flesh.
00:24:15.800 The claims by CFA, that's a George Soros-funded front operation, funded with dark money, are bogus and they're completely illegitimate.
00:24:27.040 CFA claimed that the Florida Bar was conducting an active investigation into Halligan.
00:24:31.520 However, the Florida Barge, 24 hours after the New York Times reported that in a screaming headline, announced that that was not the case.
00:24:42.520 This is yet another example where we're waiting for the New York Times and their reporter to issue a full and complete retraction because the claims against Halligan are both false and defamatory.
00:24:55.460 There is no such pending bar investigation of Lindsay Halligan, a spokesman for the Florida bar, told the Stone Zone.
00:25:03.500 In this case, the Florida bar received a complaint against Halligan and consistent with standard practice, the bar is monitoring the ongoing legal proceedings underlying the complaint.
00:25:13.960 That's actually good news for Halligan because the judge's ruling that her appointment was improper will ultimately be overturned.
00:25:23.480 The New York Times reporter Jonathan Bromwich has declined to issue a formal retraction,
00:25:28.660 thinking wrongly that there will be no consequences for his unethical role in this entire caper.
00:25:33.940 Wouldn't be so sure about that.
00:25:35.940 These sort of underhanded tactics are the modus operandi of the CIFA under the stewardship of its leader,
00:25:42.900 the rat-faced Michelle Kuppersmith. 0.60
00:25:45.560 Kuppersmith is the CFA's executive director.
00:25:48.500 She is a non-lawyer, served in senior roles in a number of these dark advocacy organizations, 0.71
00:25:56.100 ostensibly focused on political oversight.
00:25:59.180 But groups like CFA, while presenting themselves publicly as independent watchdogs,
00:26:05.280 operate within a complex and often opaque left-wing network of non-profit funding
00:26:12.720 that fuels the aims of subverting the rule of law here in America.
00:26:17.100 And Cupper Smith, really just a smear artist, never lets facts or the truth get in her way of her distorted political smears. 1.00
00:26:26.640 She began working for the Mintz Group, a New York-based private investigative firm known for corporate and political research.
00:26:33.220 She later moved into non-profit advocacy where her muckraking is often used to support lawfare efforts meant to harm conservative objectives in the liberally-dominated activist courts. 0.75
00:26:45.360 Before moving into a role at CFA, Cooper Smith worked on other left-wing fronts, including Accountable U.S. and Equity Forward.
00:26:55.200 Both are front groups that shovel propaganda, but who hide who is really paying for it.
00:27:01.720 One recent example showing Cooper Smith's lawfare blueprint was a filing meant to protect the Federal Reserve from internal security by the Trump administration.
00:27:12.040 CFA filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit in February against Federal Housing Finance Agency Director Bill Pulte.
00:27:22.080 Pulte simply raised questions about the massive cost overruns of the $3 billion renovation of the Federal Reserve headquarters on Constitution Avenue in the District of Columbia.
00:27:36.680 The group sought the release of alleged memorandum written by Director Pulte regarding Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.
00:27:46.120 The dispute stemmed from media reports suggesting the memo played some role in efforts by President Trump and allies to remove Powell amid the controversy involving the Federal Reserve's multi-billion dollar headquarters renovation.
00:28:00.880 Copper Smith accused Pulte of abusing his position to push the President's vendetta.
00:28:05.660 This demonstrates how these organizations actually work to prevent entrenched government from transparency by weaponizing the legal process to gum up the works and allow corrupt bureaucrats room to breathe.
00:28:20.600 In fact, I thank Pulte as a hero for taking what was entirely public evidence of mortgage fraud. Actually, anybody with a laptop can find this by New York Attorney General Letitia James, as well as California Senator Adam Schiff, and sending it to the U.S. Department of Justice for review, as he did in the case of James.
00:28:42.260 It's odd that James was actually charged with inflating the value of her net worth
00:28:48.740 in order to qualify for a mortgage,
00:28:52.020 which is exactly what she falsely accused President Donald Trump of doing in Manhattan. 0.66
00:28:58.020 The New York state courts overturned the verdict that James won against Trump
00:29:02.820 in that particularly egregious act of lawfare.
00:29:06.680 Now she is whining that she's being held to the same standard.
00:29:11.140 It's interesting that Letitia James, the New York attorney general, has actually prosecuted people for the exact same crime that she now was charged with.
00:29:20.720 And once again, the charges against her were dismissed, not because the charges were ever examined or because the matter ever went to trial, but simply because they were able to discredit the appointment of Lindsay Halligan.
00:29:35.580 I have written extensively about this case, and I am delighted to see that the New York Times has been held to account, but I still think they need to issue a full and complete retraction.
00:29:51.280 Meanwhile, word today that the House Republicans are calling for the Justice Department to prosecute former Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson.
00:30:04.340 You may remember Hutchinson. She testified on the January 6th committee hearings. We talked about this a little earlier in the show. Specifically induced by, I think, Congresswoman Liz Cheney, Hutchinson said it was her understanding, under oath she said, that President Trump instructed White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to call Roger Stone and General Michael Flynn on the evening of January 5th.
00:30:32.080 and it was Hutchinson's, quote, understanding that these calls were completed on the evening of the 5th.
00:30:38.100 Cheney would later speculate that the purpose of these calls on January 5th was to, quote,
00:30:43.400 find out what was going to happen on January 6th.
00:30:46.700 Once again, USA Today, for example, would report this fact without any effort to confirm its accuracy.
00:30:53.740 Rolling Stone, USA Today, MSNBC, Yahoo News, Miami Herald, and others almost immediately pounced,
00:31:00.440 reporting Hutchinson's claims was a fact.
00:31:04.080 Let me be absolutely clear.
00:31:05.620 There never was any such phone call.
00:31:08.040 I have never spoken to Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff,
00:31:12.760 not on that day or any other day, never communicated with him at all.
00:31:16.900 In fact, I think I met him once in a green room at Fox.
00:31:20.140 Check with General Flynn. He didn't either.
00:31:23.280 So it's abundantly clear that Cassidy Hutchinson lied under oath,
00:31:28.020 coached by Liz Cheney to do so,
00:31:30.440 Then she went back and tried to change her testimony, which can only be done under extraordinary circumstances, to try to avoid what is clearly a perjury charge heading her way.
00:31:42.800 This is justice. I'm glad to see it. It may be an example that we're moving away from the two-tiered justice system in which there are different rules for those who support Donald Trump than there are for those who oppose him.
00:31:55.780 You're listening to The Stone Zone right here on the Red Apple Audio Networks, and we'll be right back.
00:32:02.360 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:32:05.860 And he's a great, great person, Roger Stone.
00:32:09.900 The Stone Zone.
00:32:25.780 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:32:36.780 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:32:41.540 political analyst now get him his own it's the stone zone here's roger stone you know you can't
00:32:50.860 make this stuff up. The Bank of England is now facing serious backlash after announcing plans
00:32:57.240 to remove Winston Churchill and other historic British figures from the nation's banknotes,
00:33:04.180 replacing them with images of wildlife such as hedgehogs, badgers, and otters. The proposal
00:33:10.680 follows a public consultation which drew a mere 44,000 responses with about 60 percent of the
00:33:17.320 People reportedly favoring nature themes over some of the nation's greatest statesmen and women.
00:33:24.540 Under the current plan, notes that now feature Churchill on the $5 pound note, Jane Austen on the $10 pound note,
00:33:35.260 J.M.W. Turner at the $20 pound note, and Alan Turing on the $50 pound note,
00:33:41.900 would eventually be replaced by designs highlighting British wildlife and landscapes.
00:33:47.200 King Charles III will remain on the front of the notes.
00:33:50.480 This move is obviously another example of Britain's woke institutions erasing their own history
00:33:57.020 as Britons are replaced by foreigners being reported from the Third World.
00:34:02.620 It's not incidental. This is happening in a country where free speech has essentially completely disappeared.
00:34:09.980 The reason this is concerning, of course, is because all of our foundational documents,
00:34:14.480 the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, all of this based on the Magna Carta and the British system.
00:34:24.440 But the First Amendment still, at least ostensibly, exists here.
00:34:28.800 It no longer exists in England.
00:34:31.440 If you criticize anyone who is Islamic for any reason whatsoever, despite the circumstances or your age,
00:34:40.340 you will be arrested and you will be prosecuted.
00:34:43.580 This is hard to believe that this is happening in jolly old England, but it is.
00:34:49.940 Conservative leaders blasted the idea of making these changes in their money as absurd and disrespectful to the figures who shaped Britain and defended freedom during its darkest hours.
00:35:01.900 Former business minister Kevin Hollenrake called the plan bonkers, arguing that bank notes should honor historical giants who shaped the nation.
00:35:11.660 Former business secretary Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg mocked the proposal as unserious, joking that if animals replace Churchill, what's next? Squirrels running the economy?
00:35:24.320 Replacing Churchill, the wartime leader who helped defeat Nazi Germany with pictures of wildlife, is more than a design choice.
00:35:31.700 To me, it's a troubling symbol of a nation being encouraged to forget the very heroes who defended its freedom.
00:35:38.340 If the Bank of England wanted to use their currency to celebrate modern Britain, perhaps they could commission a note showing vicious Pakistani predators roaming the streets looking for sexual assault victims, and the law enforcement looking the other way for fear of looking racist.
00:35:56.140 Those are the fruits of this new multicultural Britain, after all.
00:36:01.140 But when I spoke earlier about the Italian American Civil Rights League, the voluntary nonprofit that I belong to, it was exactly with this kind of thing in mind.
00:36:13.060 They seek to erase our past. It doesn't matter whether you're an Irish American or an Italian American or a Greek American. They seek to erase the past of all of the immigrants who came to this country and made it great and replace it with this DEI woke philosophy. 0.92
00:36:34.680 Britain is where we are headed. 0.96
00:36:37.280 Canada is also there.
00:36:39.020 Canada where today if you own a firearm, you have to register that fact with the government.
00:36:45.160 That's the first step.
00:36:46.800 The second step I think we all recognize is confiscation.
00:36:51.280 Canada has also adopted a number of these anti-free speech laws and regulations.
00:36:59.320 it's hard to recognize them as coming from the same wellspring of democracy that this country has come from.
00:37:06.500 We'll be keeping an eye on this, but think about what would happen if they removed George Washington from our $1 bill,
00:37:12.520 or Abraham Lincoln from our $5 bill, or Benjamin Franklin from the $50 bill, because that is where they would like to head.
00:37:22.120 Thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
00:37:28.700 Thank you.