The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 03-18-26

00:00:00.000 this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone now get

00:00:17.700 him a zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone and welcome to the stone zone i'm jake

00:00:25.500 novak filling in for roger stone this evening coast to coast on this fantastic radio program

00:00:30.980 really uh very happy to have the opportunity especially when so much important news is going

00:00:36.940 on and so much reality needs to be delivered to the american public because there are a lot of

00:00:41.760 a lot of liars out there i try to try to say it in a more diplomatic way people who don't get it

00:00:46.160 right prevaricators uh spins don't know i'm just going to say they're out liars and we've got to

00:00:52.700 get to that as soon as we can but i want to let you know in about 40 minutes i know you might not

00:00:58.080 realize it now it may not seem this way but we got two pieces of evidence today that perhaps the

00:01:03.760 height of the anti-trump hate in america is starting to subside now one of the pieces of

00:01:08.800 evidence comes from a big media company and another one comes from one of the guys who's

00:01:12.660 been one of the biggest trump haters over the last few years so stay tuned for that about 40

00:01:16.480 minutes after the hour you got to hear that but what you have to hear right now is a really really

00:01:21.280 good friend, a really, really great expert on so many things going on around the world.

00:01:27.280 He is Matt Tardio, a former U.S. Green Beret, a former law enforcement officer, a current

00:01:32.960 podcast host.

00:01:34.760 And Matt, I had to have him on to talk about a lot of things in the war.

00:01:39.060 I could get your overall assessment, but I want to get specific first, and if we have

00:01:42.380 time, we can get your overall assessment.

00:01:43.560 But it seems to me, Matt, the first thing I want to talk about is it looks like we're

00:01:48.660 getting an idea now about war tactics.

00:01:51.280 So the first war tactic I want to talk about is it's clear now that in addition to some other things they're doing, the Israelis are implementing a get each Iranian leader at a time as they can get top leaders, something that, by the way, Matt, probably wasn't possible technologically not that long ago.

00:02:10.600 But technologically, it seems possible to do. And I'm going to let you let me know what you think about it. But a little tease. I think this is actually the most ethical way to conduct a war. But I'd like to get your take on it, Matt.

00:02:21.280 You know, I don't know if I'd say, like, the most ethical way to conduct a war, you know, bombs are always going to have collateral damage, but, like, the most ethical way is obviously going to be put boots on the ground.

00:02:31.860 But at the same time, you end up being bombs that fall afterwards.

00:02:34.860 I think in the case of Iran, you've got a completely different conflict going on here where you have, you know, an active resistance movement on the ground that wants absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic regime over inside of Iran.

00:02:45.940 And so it affords us the opportunity to go about doing things, you know, a little bit differently.

00:02:50.620 And, I mean, we're currently dominating the airspace, we're dominating the battlefield to the point where, you know, I watched a video earlier of besiege forces.

00:02:59.060 And for those that don't know which ones the besiege forces are, are literally stripping off their uniforms in the middle of checkpoints and putting on civilian attire before they leave to go somewhere else.

00:03:08.260 And it's because they've been actively getting targeted.

00:03:10.300 And even that airstrike yesterday that ended up taking out leadership, the airstrike yesterday that took out leadership, it was very, very interesting the way that that ended up going down.

00:03:19.740 because they ended up going to a tent out in the middle of nowhere,

00:03:22.980 according to the reports that I read.

00:03:25.500 And that within itself is kind of crazy

00:03:29.100 because you've got a bunch of key leadership from the IRGC

00:03:32.160 that are going to meet up.

00:03:33.920 They decided that everything can't be secure enough,

00:03:36.320 that they have to go meet up in a tent.

00:03:37.660 They can't go to a regular place that they're going to meet.

00:03:39.780 They think they're okay, and they all end up getting schwacked anyways

00:03:42.160 by a bomb falling from the sky.

00:03:43.780 You know, you made a good point about boots on the ground.

00:03:47.460 And I know you know this very well

00:03:49.100 because you've been talking about it.

00:03:50.980 In some ways, there are some boots in the ground, right?

00:03:53.160 The actual Iranian people, they're painting the targets for us, aren't they? 1.00

00:03:56.800 They're lighting them, aren't they, a little bit?

00:03:58.560 No, it's not that they're lighting the targets for us.

00:04:01.080 You know, a lot of people are getting confused for some of the videos

00:04:03.160 that they see going around of the airstrikes that are falling down.

00:04:05.780 They see the laser that's, like, you know, like painting the target.

00:04:09.280 That's actually coming from some of the drones, right?

00:04:11.160 So it looks like we have recon drones that are out and about doing their thing,

00:04:14.240 and then they're painting the targets for the fast neighbors that are coming in

00:04:17.560 or the bombers that are coming in and dropping the bombs on those targets in particular.

00:04:21.380 But the people that are on the ground, that's something completely and totally different.

00:04:24.260 What we're seeing is either, A, FPV drones, like first-person view drones,

00:04:30.080 that are flying around one way, you know, that are going in and blowing up these different besiege checkpoints,

00:04:35.500 or B, I saw a video the other day of a drone that appeared that it had dropped an explosive device

00:04:41.980 on a besiege checkpoint and turned around and ran away.

00:04:44.700 So that's pretty significant when we take into account what we saw after the 12-day war,

00:04:49.220 which was an entire drone-making IED factory that was being manned by Afghans that was over inside of there.

00:04:57.620 So that goes to show the – I don't want to say the amount of intelligence that's on the ground,

00:05:02.440 the amount of people that we have working for us and also working for Mossad that are over there doing these different things,

00:05:08.080 that are keeping those Basij forces on the run.

00:05:10.660 But it also shows that you have this uprising that's about to start taking place over there.

00:05:14.860 I saw a drive-by shooting that occurred earlier today over inside of Tehran.

00:05:18.800 So all those things are pretty dang big.

00:05:20.680 There was an ambush that took place over in southeastern Iran just the other night that Iranian state media even recognized.

00:05:28.180 And it ended up killing five of the besieged forces.

00:05:30.140 So, I mean, all of these are signs that we're about to start seeing the regime get overthrown in the very near future.

00:05:35.540 um i we're going to go to break in a few minutes but i want to get two more questions into you and

00:05:39.860 then we'll bring you back after the break for one more thing but i want to talk about another war

00:05:43.480 tactic which is of course israel hitting that gas field this morning and obviously that got the

00:05:48.940 markets all upset and things like that people are worried about oil supply and things like that but

00:05:52.720 matt i just couldn't help but think of how this contrasted with what's going on with ukraine and

00:05:59.320 russia and i know that some russian energy sites have been targeted but frankly you know nothing

00:06:04.660 like this today nothing like in the percentage of this is going to hit the iranian uh oil industry

00:06:09.960 and it just made me laugh because as the europeans actually funnel more money to russia and energy

00:06:15.660 and energy purchases than they're funneling to ukraine in the war israel may have made a point

00:06:20.880 here like you want to end a war you want to end a war you want to win a war and end a war you got

00:06:24.580 to cut off the financial sources and yeah it's going to cause some pain in the markets but

00:06:28.720 probably worth it probably yeah i mean that's exactly what trump said the other day you know

00:06:34.080 he was getting asked whether or not the u.s was concerned about the street being closed and he's

00:06:38.020 like meh i mean it might bother the eu but maybe they ought to get over there and help reopen the

00:06:41.660 street but as far as the united states go i mean we're the top producers so why would we care you

00:06:46.160 know right now the next question i want to quickly ask you is just about this joe kent

00:06:50.100 resignation and his i mean it's more than just a betrayal of what he had to say just a couple

00:06:57.180 months ago but you know he really went full-on conspiracy theory thing that it's the jews and

00:07:02.920 israel that led us to war uh actually by the way he clearly doesn't read the wall street journal

00:07:07.800 because there's been and the washington post has been incredible reporting about how the saudis

00:07:12.040 were the ones lobbying for this war the hardest and i don't blame them but they certainly were

00:07:16.380 but what's your what's your take on this obviously we're not going to try to trash his past he had a

00:07:21.000 nice record but that doesn't excuse him for what he's doing now no he's got a he's got a very good

00:07:26.460 record um as far as his military service goes and you know i actually spoke to him on the phone last

00:07:30.300 week um about a national security matter and it appears that that matter got taken care of

00:07:35.060 um and it undoubtedly saved american lives however comma you know there's a difference

00:07:40.640 between making sure that uh you know we we're taking care of our troops and everything else

00:07:45.760 and just outright blatant lies um but i feel like we're thrown out during that form now it could

00:07:50.760 also you know be his opinion but what i'm also saying is it looks like he's set up for tucker

00:07:55.300 carlson it looks like he's set up for a speaking engagement and i'm also hearing about a couple

00:07:58.780 different places he's probably going to be appearing on in the very near future so it almost

00:08:02.440 seems kind of uh uh set up and it almost also seems a little bit reminiscent of what we saw

00:08:06.920 with anthony aguilar when he ended up bringing up the amir kid over in gaza that allegedly got

00:08:11.740 killed that who we later then end up discovering that he wasn't killed and he's alive and well

00:08:16.740 um and and that within itself is a little bit troubling brie dial ended up putting out yesterday

00:08:21.400 um something that i was unaware of but that ended up getting confirmed through somebody else that i

00:08:26.020 You know, his wife working for Grayzone, you know, and that is one of the most pro-Russian propagandist platforms you can find.

00:08:35.120 And in my opinion, that's where this issue might be coming from.

00:08:39.960 You know, Israel today was taking out supply boats that were pushing to the Caspian Sea to go supply Russia, you know, on their way from Iran.

00:08:46.440 And so, you know, Russia in themselves has a lot of interest in this war, and I don't think a lot of people actually realize that.

00:08:51.720 Yeah, you mentioned we're talking to Matt Tardio, former Green Beret, former law enforcement officer, and he just referenced a journalist named Bree Dahl, D-A-H-L, who works for the Daily Signal.

00:09:01.840 So you can check her out and her reports.

00:09:04.220 So, listen, we are not trashing Joe Kent's overall past record.

00:09:09.040 We've both not done that.

00:09:10.220 We're honoring some of the things he did in the past, but we're very, very saddened by what seems to be a total betrayal here.

00:09:16.380 But someone who doesn't really deserve, as far as I know, I don't know what service she ever did for this country.

00:09:20.940 Here is Marjorie Taylor Greene speaking over a phony video that I'm going to explain a little bit.

00:09:27.040 You can see it on social media.

00:09:28.580 But here she is criticizing the war over the video of what supposedly is a dead serviceman from this war.

00:09:34.840 Listen to this.

00:09:40.340 The consequences of this war are real.

00:09:45.020 Why are our sons and daughters coming home in caskets for Israel? 0.99

00:09:50.940 I witnessed this coming home to the Bay Area yesterday, and it was so heartbreaking.

00:10:03.800 Why?

00:10:07.660 Well, what you can't see if you're just listening to us on the radio here on the Stone Zone,

00:10:12.620 is she was using a video from 2011 under the Obama administration.

00:10:18.040 I mean, this is just beyond the pale.

00:10:20.740 And unlike Joe Kent, Matt Tardio, Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't have any great record of service for us to have any gentleness with her over this.

00:10:28.420 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:10:30.160 I don't, you know, the amount of mis- and disinformation that's going out there.

00:10:33.660 Here's the thing, too.

00:10:34.620 You know, a lot of people don't know that the term disinformation ended up getting coined by the Russians in the early 1900s.

00:10:41.980 It's something very, very interesting that people need to look into.

00:10:44.780 I would encourage people to look into, you know, something that's called Operation SIG that the Russians launched.

00:10:51.760 I believe it was the late 60s, the early 70s.

00:10:54.040 That was, you know, an attempt to tear apart, you know, the U.S. support for Israel, along with several other things.

00:11:00.580 And, of course, we've got Russia operating over there.

00:11:02.240 But, you know, Russia ends up getting a lot of its support from Iran.

00:11:05.900 So it's no surprise to me that we see a lot of pro-Russian media outlets that are very, very against this war.

00:11:11.660 because Russia certainly is because it's going to put a big hurt on them, you know, here in the near future.

00:11:17.320 So, you know, it's kind of scary for them, I guess, that they're about to have, you know,

00:11:22.500 a money laundering machine along with a huge supplier of weapons get cut out right from underneath them.

00:11:27.920 All right. We're talking to Matt Tardio. This is The Stone Zone.

00:11:30.400 I'm Jake Novak filling in for Roger Stone.

00:11:32.500 When we come back, we're going to talk about Trump's response to a question about terror threats here in the United States,

00:11:39.580 Even as the Department of Homeland Security once again today, it was a vote that failed to refund it, or at least temporarily.

00:11:45.840 We'll be right back on The Stone Zone.

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00:12:37.020 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest

00:12:47.520 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant

00:12:52.300 political analyst now get him his own it's the stone zone here's roger stone and i'm jake novak

00:13:01.080 filling in for roger stone this evening on the stone zone coming to you nationwide worldwide

00:13:06.420 Listen to this.

00:13:20.540 I got to tell you, that doesn't bother me that much, but if it were 5 a.m. and they were blasting in a loudspeaker, that's another story.

00:13:28.480 I got a story for you about, oh, about 48 minutes after the hour.

00:13:32.720 are going to tell you about what's going on

00:13:34.440 and the people who are defending

00:13:35.760 the continued use of that call to prayer

00:13:39.040 that early in the morning.

00:13:41.000 And these are the same people

00:13:41.980 who have been against every other religious demonstration

00:13:44.540 in this country for years,

00:13:45.920 and suddenly they're in favor of this.

00:13:48.560 But I want to get back to Matt Tardio,

00:13:50.580 former Green Beret, former law enforcement officer.

00:13:52.860 He's got a podcast now.

00:13:54.800 And Matt, I got to talk to you about

00:13:56.800 one of the things that I think

00:13:57.760 is really interesting in messaging,

00:13:58.780 because you're a good combo.

00:14:00.300 Not only do you know the situation in the Middle East,

00:14:02.060 But you were also a police officer. And, you know, a couple of days ago, they asked President Trump whether he was worried, worried.

00:14:11.020 That was the word they use about terror attacks here in the United States.

00:14:14.840 Now, if you're a journalist, I think that that is really not a great question to ask for a lot of reasons.

00:14:20.220 He said no. But if they had said, are you concerned? Are you taking precautions? That would have been a different answer.

00:14:25.180 So, of course, President Trump said no. He's not going to come off sounding weak.

00:14:28.460 And then when we did have the attack in Michigan and we did have this incident at Gracie Mansion in New York,

00:14:33.840 there were people saying, oh, Trump, you know, he was just whistling past the graveyard, ha, ha, ha.

00:14:38.020 You know, I'll tell you a little bit of a history story.

00:14:40.100 Everyone talks about Israel and how strong they were in the Six-Day War.

00:14:43.960 Well, it didn't almost work because when the Six-Day War was about to start or it just started,

00:14:48.120 the then Prime Minister of Israel, his name was Levi Eshkol, very beloved person, beloved Prime Minister,

00:14:53.000 not a controversial figure in Israel at all.

00:14:55.180 He gave a national speech on national radio, and it sounded like he was crying.

00:14:59.080 It really did.

00:14:59.760 He had some health issues, whatever it was, and it absolutely terrified the country.

00:15:04.220 A lot of people believe it's amazing that they carried out the great swift victory in the six-day wars they did after that speech.

00:15:09.780 Matt, I, of course, put a gun to my head and say, I'm worried.

00:15:14.320 But worry isn't the right question.

00:15:15.880 It's about being prepared.

00:15:16.860 It's about being vigilant.

00:15:17.720 Right, Matt?

00:15:19.460 Yeah, no, it's all about being vigilant.

00:15:21.820 And let's be clear, you know, the shooting that took place in Michigan at the Temple of Israel was by, at a bare minimum, a Hezbollah sympathizer, if not a Hezbollah terrorist himself.

00:15:34.660 And when we look at some of the things that are taking place over here in the United States, just run by the last two weeks, the amount of, you know, active shooters, bombs, bomb threats, et cetera, that have taken place over here.

00:15:43.780 It all has to do with radical Islamic extremists.

00:15:46.480 You know, it's not going anywhere.

00:15:47.980 And when you look at places like Dearborn, Michigan, they're defending all of these people and they're pretending like it's not a thing.

00:15:54.080 And by the way, you know, the rumor was that his vehicle was registered out of Dearborn.

00:15:58.200 Right. Right. And also that, you know, I was speaking with a law enforcement officer that was on the ground today.

00:16:04.180 They had information on a second suspect and they were actually out searching for a second suspect.

00:16:09.700 This is this is not something that should be taken lightly here in the United States of America.

00:16:14.840 Maduro was working very closely with the IRGC, but working very closely with Hezbollah and was giving out diplomatic passports.

00:16:22.000 I mean, that's in his indictment. Right. Yeah.

00:16:24.380 Like we like these are things that we know that Maduro was doing.

00:16:27.920 And it's not a surprise to me that we've ripped Maduro out and now we're going over to rip out the IRGC. 0.72

00:16:33.820 Yeah, this is Matt Tardio. You're listening to Matt Tardio on the Stone Zone. He's my guest.

00:16:38.180 I'm Jake Novak in for Roger Stone. You just alluded to something that I've been talking about for several years.

00:16:43.480 When I first heard, and I think it was 2022, when I first heard that for some period of that year, the large group, the largest group of people coming over our open border under the Biden administration were from Venezuela, I knew that Hezbollah was making a foothold in this country because that because Hezbollah had a foothold in Venezuela for many years.

00:17:03.900 Ahmadinejad, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former president of Iran,

00:17:06.780 who has been eliminated, by the way, by the Israelis,

00:17:09.460 made a very famous visit to Hugo Chavez,

00:17:12.260 who was the dictator there at the time,

00:17:13.960 and started Venezuela on that downward spiral.

00:17:16.100 So you knew that this was going to happen.

00:17:18.600 You just knew it was going to happen.

00:17:20.320 Matt, Tardio, thank you so much for joining us.

00:17:22.300 Everyone check out his podcast.

00:17:23.520 Matt, tell everyone how they can hear your podcast and see it.

00:17:26.840 Yeah, you guys can find me over on YouTube.

00:17:28.680 Just search for Speak the Truth, and you guys will find me.

00:17:31.820 You guys can find me over on X. Just search my name, M-A-T-T space T-A-R-D-I-O.

00:17:38.020 And that's where, generally speaking, you guys will be able to find me.

00:17:40.700 Matt is very, very knowledgeable. He's easy to listen to.

00:17:44.340 And it's fun. It's fun to get all of his information.

00:17:46.620 Thank you so much for joining us, Matt Tardio, on the Stone Zone.

00:17:49.660 Listen, when we come back, the markets had their little tantrum again today.

00:17:53.800 They're going to do that sometimes.

00:17:55.320 And remember when they told us that President Trump was going to get rid

00:17:58.860 and make it illegal to have in vitro fertilization?

00:18:01.820 Well, guess a very, very special and unexpected person is throwing cold water on that.

00:18:31.820 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell

00:18:41.220 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but

00:18:47.560 people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone here's roger stone

00:18:53.100 and welcome to the stone zone on this wednesday night i'm jake novak filling in for roger stone

00:18:58.940 Thank you so much for the opportunity.

00:19:00.820 I'm just going to bluntly say this right now.

00:19:03.620 Don't play the state lotteries.

00:19:05.560 Do not play the national lottery games.

00:19:07.420 Do you think I'm telling you that because I'm a moralist or I'm a prude?

00:19:11.300 No, I'm neither of those things.

00:19:13.040 It's because the games are rigged.

00:19:14.980 And I've been reporting on that fact for many, many years.

00:19:18.520 And it was an amazing story out of Texas last year.

00:19:22.040 And now we're getting some more details about it, about an absolutely rigged lottery.

00:19:26.440 You must listen to this.

00:19:28.000 Go ahead and gamble if you want to,

00:19:29.760 but you don't want to gamble in a game you can't win.

00:19:31.720 So I want to talk about that.

00:19:32.860 Speaking of gambling, the market, the stock market had a bit of a meltdown today.

00:19:37.020 Nothing actually huge from a percentage standpoint.

00:19:39.180 The Dow lost 800 points.

00:19:41.160 Not saying that's a good day,

00:19:42.680 but these days you need to have at least 1,000 points or 2,000 point loss

00:19:46.340 to really, really get too nervous.

00:19:49.040 And the markets had a couple of reasons why they were upset.

00:19:51.740 Investors were upset today.

00:19:53.420 They got an inflation report they didn't like.

00:19:55.300 inflation was a little hotter on the producer end wholesale inflation went up more than expected

00:20:00.480 that's a very volatile number by the way so there you go and you know they're not loving the

00:20:06.000 continuing high price of oil they don't like those things now when you're a president of the united

00:20:11.460 states and you have a goal to get rid of a nation that is a threat to this country you're going to

00:20:16.600 have to weather a lot of storms and the markets are going to be a big one especially for someone

00:20:20.520 connected so much to the business world his whole life like donald trump and there are

00:20:25.060 reports uh this evening that he would like to see no more attacks on any oil facilities on iran

00:20:31.020 although they were okay he was okay with the israelis taking out that gas field this morning

00:20:35.460 but he'd like to see it stop for now and that's probably because of market pressures

00:20:39.060 but it also may be simply because they don't need to continue to do that to finish this mission

00:20:44.180 and so that's all well and good but it's important to remember all these things

00:20:48.520 the markets are worriers by definition. Investors have to worry on a daily basis.

00:20:56.320 And that is what they're going to do. And look, I'm not a financial advisor. I'm not giving you

00:21:02.280 official financial advice. But it sure seems like the price of oil as it is now, $98, $99 a barrel,

00:21:08.720 is not going to stay there for very long. If you think that, make your bets appropriately.

00:21:14.560 But if you are absolutely sure that you think it's going to go down like I am in a few weeks,

00:21:18.520 or maybe a couple of months at the most, maybe you want to invest in it.

00:21:21.700 That's all I'm saying.

00:21:22.440 I'm not going to tell you that officially, but that's something you should know.

00:21:24.880 Now, there, of course, are a lot of people beating the drum about how the economy is right now.

00:21:31.420 And my friend Scott Rasmussen, who I believe to be the most reliable pollster in this country,

00:21:36.680 he has an outfit called Napolitan News Report, Napolitan Reports.

00:21:41.020 He's no longer with Rasmussen Reports.

00:21:42.760 Just have to clarify that once again.

00:21:45.000 He did found Rasmussen Reports.

00:21:46.640 Oh, and by the way, he also founded ESPN.

00:21:48.180 this is not you know it's pretty smart guy but he has a new outfit and i trust him as a pollster

00:21:53.920 a lot and he had a new poll out today showing that americans are feeling really weak not so

00:21:58.560 great about the economy really the weakest they felt in quite some time and that's understandable

00:22:03.660 they're seeing gas prices go up there haven't been a lot of new jobs added to the economy we're not

00:22:09.300 seeing however a major job cutting situation in the economy that's good news and there's a few

00:22:14.900 other things that haven't happened we're not seeing a foreclosure crisis even the car repo

00:22:21.080 situation which i've actually been very worried about in america for the last year or so the

00:22:25.560 amount people owe on their cars right now looks like absolute mortgages it's not good people are

00:22:31.900 underwater on their car mortgage in other words if they trade in their car they owe still more

00:22:37.880 than what they're going to get for trading it in it's really a sad situation but there hasn't been

00:22:42.080 a massive wave of repossessions in this country either.

00:22:44.920 So, you know, again, I don't think it's that bad.

00:22:47.400 And then the guy named Craig Fuller,

00:22:49.060 who is an expert on trucking in this country.

00:22:51.520 And listen, folks, I know we have planes

00:22:53.100 and I know we have trains to move freight

00:22:55.960 from one part of the country to the next.

00:22:57.740 But eventually, just about everything in this country

00:23:00.000 gets delivered by a truck, right?

00:23:02.040 When the train pulls into the station

00:23:03.440 and they're gonna deliver it to your house,

00:23:05.580 the train doesn't pull up to your house.

00:23:06.700 You need a truck to make that connection.

00:23:08.380 Same thing with the planes at the airport.

00:23:10.400 And Craig Fuller says that trucking volumes are at a four-year high, up 10% from last year, and he says the economy is very strong.

00:23:19.960 He said that is a tremendously strong indicator of an economy.

00:23:23.000 It's a very reliable indicator of the economy.

00:23:25.220 I am not saying the economy is perfect, but if you believe that everything is terrible, no one's getting hired, homes are falling, that's not happening.

00:23:34.660 And what also isn't happening is that we're not seeing a grinding to a halt of our economy.

00:23:39.060 That's simply just not happening. Now, let's talk a little bit about other delusions.

00:23:44.180 I don't know about you, but during the height of the 2024 election, some of the people in my wider circle who were on the moderate to liberal side told me that they kind of wanted to vote for Donald Trump.

00:23:58.800 But they were sure, they were sure that he was going to make in vitro fertilization, IVF, illegal.

00:24:08.560 I wonder where they got that idea.

00:24:09.700 Maybe they got it from Kamala Harris.

00:24:11.160 Here she is saying that that would happen.

00:24:13.780 He would ban abortion nationwide, restrict access to birth control and put IVF treatments at risk,

00:24:22.120 and force states to monitor women's pregnancies.

00:24:26.240 just google project 2025 and read the plans for yourself hysterical lie not had none of that's

00:24:38.020 happened and not only did that not happen but president trump has done something amazing to

00:24:43.640 make ivf a lot more possible for a lot of families out there and who is the person who's letting

00:24:50.740 everybody know that this was a delusion who is the person who's letting everybody know that

00:24:54.980 president trump has done something very good not only on this issue but on a number of health

00:24:58.960 issues well none other than billionaire former dallas mavericks owner and shark tank guy mark

00:25:04.020 cuban now i'm going to read mark cuban's post word for word because this is important to hear

00:25:09.300 every word of it this is something he posted on x today and by the way i repost all this stuff you

00:25:14.380 can go to my x account at jake jake ny that's jake two times and then ny for new york at jake

00:25:20.120 jake ny but this is what mark cuban had to say today i'm going to read it word for word quote

00:25:24.300 Everyone wants me to rip on Trump Rx

00:25:27.440 Reality is

00:25:29.000 It's saving patients money on IVF

00:25:31.800 And a few other drugs

00:25:33.420 A lot of money

00:25:34.600 In my opinion

00:25:35.860 Anything that saves patients money is a win

00:25:38.580 And they truly do have some great people

00:25:41.400 That are making smart moves

00:25:42.860 You just don't know their names

00:25:44.740 Chris Klomp

00:25:45.860 Mark Atalia

00:25:47.220 Abe Sutton

00:25:48.060 And so many more

00:25:49.120 And when you talk to them

00:25:50.280 And you see the work they put in

00:25:52.020 It's obvious they are focused on trying to do

00:25:54.180 the right thing for patients. Don't forget, they didn't give the insurance industry a price increase

00:25:59.500 that they wanted, and those stock prices got crushed. Trump Rx is just getting started, end

00:26:05.180 quote. That's Mark Cuban, folks, one of the nastiest, consistently negative bashers of 0.90

00:26:12.820 President Trump. I know he said some good things about him at times, but Mark Cuban has been really

00:26:16.500 rough on Trump, over the top in my opinion, but he can't deny this either. I really want to call

00:26:22.740 some of these people in my wider circle who two years ago were assuring me that they had to vote

00:26:27.320 for Kamala Harris before that Joe Biden because, you know, they're worried about their children

00:26:31.820 not being able to do IVF. They're busy in their careers and IVF is going to be outlawed and women 1.00

00:26:37.300 are going to be forced into the headman's tail. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that I've been

00:26:42.080 growing up with, living with ever since I was a kid. Remember when President Reagan got elected,

00:26:46.740 they told us we're going to be in a nuclear war within five minutes. You know, when you do stuff

00:26:52.280 like that in at least old my in my childhood years if you did stuff like that and it didn't

00:26:57.620 turn out to be true you ended up losing big time the next election so i have to say though this is

00:27:04.120 something however this is more than just a big win on the trump rx thing i think this is a sign

00:27:09.980 when you have somebody like mark cuban writing an extensive quote like this instead of just

00:27:13.700 whispering it out of his mouth saying all right it's pretty good i mean you you heard me read

00:27:17.540 that long quote from him that wasn't a short post right okay so he's saying all of this

00:27:23.220 and going into detail i see this as a sign that some of the worst of the trump mania hatred in

00:27:30.080 this country is beginning to subside just a little bit it's not going to go away this is a permanent

00:27:35.560 mental illness that millions and millions americans are suffering from and i use those

00:27:39.420 words advisedly and no i am not demonizing mental health in this country or mental illness it's a

00:27:45.880 real illness, just like I'm not demonizing someone. If I see someone coughing up blood on the street

00:27:49.680 and I say, I think he might have tuberculosis, I'm not making fun of that person. If I see people

00:27:55.160 going to bed every night looking to see if Donald Trump's under their bed, I'm going to say you're 1.00

00:27:59.060 mentally ill. You're having a mental illness. Doesn't mean you're insane. Doesn't mean you need 1.00

00:28:02.180 to be hospitalized, but you need some help. And I'm seeing it subside just a little bit. If Mark

00:28:08.120 Cuban is saying that, there's another sign that it's subsiding just a little bit. We learned today

00:28:11.900 that MSNOW, which is the new name of MSNBC,

00:28:15.640 is going to cut an hour of the Morning Joe show.

00:28:19.180 They're going to cut some other of their programming

00:28:21.020 because the audience are people who just want to see Trump bashing,

00:28:24.860 and more than just Trump bashing, but hysterical Trump bashing.

00:28:28.060 Listen, if you don't like a president, you don't like his policies,

00:28:30.440 and you just want to push back on them all the time,

00:28:32.140 I don't think that that's so terrible.

00:28:34.300 What's terrible is when you frighten people into thinking there isn't going to be IVF.

00:28:37.780 When you frighten people into thinking that they're going to be,

00:28:40.360 that someone who doesn't have an up-to-date license,

00:28:43.780 a driver's license, is going to be whisked away

00:28:45.520 and sent back to some country they never lived in.

00:28:47.940 These kind of scare tactics, that's not okay.

00:28:50.420 And you see that a lot on MSNOW.

00:28:52.560 And it's getting cut because the audience for that is shrinking.

00:28:56.580 So I have to say that that has to be something.

00:28:59.660 It's a positive sign, folks.

00:29:01.900 It's a positive sign.

00:29:03.100 It's not going to be the end of this mental illness in this country.

00:29:06.180 But those are two signs.

00:29:08.500 Now, speaking of changes in news divisions,

00:29:11.120 we also found out today that the CBS Evening News

00:29:14.440 has dipped back below the 4 million viewer mark.

00:29:18.220 They had a new high when they brought in that new anchor,

00:29:21.440 and they got it to 4.6 million.

00:29:23.680 Now they're down below 4 million,

00:29:25.120 and there is a report in today's New York Post

00:29:27.260 that the executive producer of that show is on very, very thin ice.

00:29:32.960 And all I can say is, no kidding.

00:29:35.560 No kidding.

00:29:36.060 when barry weiss took over the editorial reigns at cbs people like me and i actually

00:29:41.040 have some secondary uh one or two degree separations from her and i was able to get

00:29:47.440 some messages to her about things i think she should have done at cbs news and no i'm not

00:29:52.100 surprised that she didn't do them believe me i'm not that full of myself but honestly there hasn't

00:29:57.360 been enough of a change in that broadcast and now it's below four million viewers they're they're

00:30:03.100 really in trouble there there's really no other way to say it um folks speaking of things that

00:30:08.620 are in trouble new york state's in trouble we don't have a lot of money now why should the rest

00:30:13.540 of the country this is a coast-to-coast international program in addition being a national

00:30:16.840 program the reason is what you're about to hear from the governor of new york is what you're about

00:30:21.260 to hear from probably a lot of other blue state governors here's kathy hochel the governor of new

00:30:26.240 york telling people why she really really thinks rich people should come back to new york listen

00:30:31.700 to this. And being conscious of the facts that I need people who are high net worth to support the

00:30:38.540 generous social programs that we want to have in our state. Right now, there are some patriotic

00:30:44.520 millionaires who stepped up. OK, cut me the checks. They just if you want to be supportive,

00:30:51.440 but maybe the first step should be go down to Palm Beach and see who you can bring back home

00:30:56.080 because our tax base has been eroded. These people really think we're stupid. It was the 1.00

00:31:01.420 same Kathy Hochul who a year and a half ago or so told rich people who didn't want to pay higher

00:31:05.640 taxes they should get out of New York now uh you should come back and be patriotic uh what a lot

00:31:12.280 of people don't understand is it's not about greed if I think if people thought that their

00:31:16.320 tax money was being spent efficiently and better than you and I can spend it in our own charitable

00:31:21.040 donations then we would do it now I'm not a New York exile I'm staying here in New York state but

00:31:27.040 But I can see why somebody who could set up a foundation with their billions of dollars would rather say, you know what, I'm going to save some of that tax money that would have gone down the drain here in New York, go to Florida, go to Texas, go to some other state where I don't have to pay as many as much taxes and then really do some good for America.

00:31:43.100 Now, I was telling you earlier about this call to prayer issue, the call to prayer recordings in some parts of New York City at 5 a.m. are starting to cause what we call here in New York City quality of life issues.

00:31:55.580 Now, look, I think that even some of the call to prayer, I know I might be in a minority here.

00:32:00.360 I actually think some of it is really beautiful.

00:32:02.920 I actually don't think it's necessarily a horrific thing.

00:32:05.640 But no, loudspeakers at 5 a.m. in a public place are really not part of your constitutional right as a religious group.

00:32:12.500 Now, I'm not going to go into the pros and cons much more into this.

00:32:15.140 I think I've made that point.

00:32:16.560 But what I wanted to point out to you is something really interesting.

00:32:18.940 the same groups the same legal defense groups that for years have been fighting nativity scenes

00:32:26.160 for example that show up in your town square maybe for a week out of the year they've been

00:32:30.780 fighting uh some other types of religious demonstration things that you see every once

00:32:35.700 in a while maybe private silent prayer in public schools where it's just silent a moment of silence 0.70

00:32:40.340 things like that they're all in favor of these loud call to prayers every darn morning at 5 a.m 0.95

00:32:47.300 It's the hypocrisy factor. 0.74

00:32:49.020 It's the duplicity factor that's really, really illuminating, isn't it?

00:32:53.640 All right, this is The Stone Zone.

00:32:54.720 I'm Jake Novak in for Roger Stone.

00:32:56.380 And when we come back, I'm going to explain to you why you should never play your state lotteries or these national lotteries.

00:33:02.520 I got a story out of Texas you got to hear to believe.

00:33:05.180 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:33:08.560 And he's a great, great person, Roger Stone.

00:33:12.600 The Stone Zone.

00:33:16.600 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:33:37.300 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.

00:33:41.200 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:33:42.440 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.

00:33:45.320 Now, get in the zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.

00:33:51.600 And I'm Jake Novak filling in on the Stone Zone again for Roger Stone.

00:33:55.240 Thank you so much for listening this evening.

00:33:57.820 I'm going to get to this lottery story in a second, but just to give you an update,

00:34:01.200 if you were hoping that the Department of Homeland Security would at least get temporarily funded today,

00:34:06.300 sorry, didn't happen.

00:34:07.280 Democrats wouldn't even vote in favor of a two-week refunding so that the TSA workers

00:34:13.140 and some of the other people who haven't been getting their paycheck could get a paycheck.

00:34:16.300 Nope.

00:34:17.040 No soup for you.

00:34:18.360 And I want to use this particular update to remind you of something else that happened a couple of days ago.

00:34:22.720 You had a bunch of airline CEOs, the big airlines, all signing a letter together,

00:34:27.420 all coming out together and saying,

00:34:28.720 Congress has to refund the Department of Homeland Security.

00:34:31.840 The TSA lines are too long.

00:34:33.780 And da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:34:35.720 Sorry, CEOs.

00:34:37.060 If you're just going to say Congress and not specifically say who in Congress is responsible for it,

00:34:43.140 You're not going to get what you want, and you're just giving the people who are responsible a pass.

00:34:48.640 You need to say the Democrats in Congress.

00:34:51.500 Oh, I know that's going to make it hard for you at your cocktail party,

00:34:54.100 and your husband or your wife is going to be angry at you for not being pro-Democrat.

00:34:59.580 But, hey, you're not going to have a nice cocktail party for much longer if your airlines have this kind of a problem.

00:35:05.480 You have to call out the Democrats. This is an objective fact.

00:35:08.100 This is not an opinion.

00:35:09.340 It is just the Democrats who are responsible for this shutdown of the TSA.

00:35:14.680 This is not a debatable fact.

00:35:16.740 And if you're just going to say Congress, that's not saying people need to do something.

00:35:20.880 No, the Democrats need to stop voting to continue to shut this shutdown.

00:35:24.680 That's it.

00:35:25.360 So the CEOs can go pound sand. 0.93

00:35:27.740 I have absolutely no sympathy for you.

00:35:30.060 And if I were a shareholder of one of these airlines or one of the employees of one of these airlines, I would repeat what I just said to the boss.

00:35:37.600 Now, I'm not a prude. I understand people are going to gamble. I have no problem with that, really. I really don't. I promise I'm not that kind of a guy. But I'm telling you right now, do not play your state lotteries. Do not play your national lotteries. They are rigged.

00:35:52.540 and here's how they're getting rigged right now

00:35:54.940 because I knew this was going to happen

00:35:56.440 and it happened in Texas in 2023

00:35:58.680 a huge jackpot in Texas

00:36:01.660 was basically stolen

00:36:03.580 by a bunch of investors

00:36:05.460 who had enough money to put up

00:36:06.760 to print every single possible ticket combination

00:36:09.380 now this has always been possible

00:36:11.280 theoretically

00:36:12.360 there's still a finite amount of numbers

00:36:14.500 that you can possibly put on a ticket

00:36:16.180 so what was stopping people from doing this in the past

00:36:19.400 the answer is technology

00:36:20.560 all those orders couldn't be processed in time and there weren't enough machines to actually

00:36:26.000 print out all those tickets but because of those online ticket selling apps where you can buy

00:36:33.740 lottery tickets even from out of state you can now make massive orders for massive numbers of

00:36:38.900 tickets at once and in the case of what happened in texas in 2023 we only found out about this last

00:36:44.300 year the state texas lottery commission according to someone known as the joker they call him the

00:36:49.820 joker because he's an Australian gambler who has a difficult name to pronounce. I'm going to give

00:36:53.420 it a shot. Zelko Renogadzik. And he is an Australian gambler, investor, whatever you want

00:37:00.420 to call him. And he gave an exclusive interview to a Dallas magazine just today explaining how

00:37:05.960 the whole scam worked. I explained most of it to you. They were able to use online ticket buying

00:37:10.720 apps to order a massive number of tickets at once, which is something you couldn't do before

00:37:15.000 those online apps began then they were able to buy up a bunch of convenience stores fill them up

00:37:20.620 with lottery printing machines and according to the joker guy the state lottery fully cooperated

00:37:26.360 by providing those machines with all the extra paper they needed there's a special paper you

00:37:30.420 have to print out these tickets on it can't just be on regular paper and the state lottery commission

00:37:34.700 apparently showed up with reams of paper more than once during the whole process and they won

00:37:39.720 the lottery and they got a 20 million dollar profit even though they spent so much money on

00:37:43.380 that operation now if you believe in the simulation you're going to love this name

00:37:47.340 the executive director of the texas lottery at the time his name was gary grief i kid you not

00:37:53.560 not good grief gary grief g-r-i-e-f and when this story came to light about a year ago

00:38:00.140 he went missing he's still missing nobody knows where he is the state of texas has dissolved

00:38:07.740 dissolved its lottery commission ever since they still have lottery drawings though

00:38:12.020 So Governor Abbott has ordered the Texas Rangers and a number of other groups within the state to investigate this thing.

00:38:17.940 No findings yet, folks, but I'll give you, I just gave you the findings.

00:38:22.400 Some out-of-state international people with a ton of money and probably paid off Texas Lottery Commission people were able to pull off this scam.

00:38:31.580 And if you think it's only Texas doing this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you and maybe a bridge in Texas to sell you, too.

00:38:38.740 Folks, these games are rigged.

00:38:40.860 don't play them. You're much better off on a sports betting app or maybe investing in the

00:38:47.160 market. I'm Jake Novak. I was in for Roger Stone this evening. Have a really great evening.

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