The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 25, 2026


The Stone Zone ｜ 03-24-26

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oil prices and economy FBI spying and Mueller investigation
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Roger Stone Troy Smith Jake Novak
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Donald Trump JD Vance Robert Mueller Steve Bannon Ronald Reagan Marco Rubio Ron DeSantis Treasurer Brandon Beach Richard Nixon Waleed Faris Kristi Noem Miles Guo Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Nalini Ned Carney George W. Bush John Katsimatidis Corey Lewandowski Jeffrey Epstein Aaron Zelensky Hillary Clinton and 14 more
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J.D. Vance has a big leg up on Marco Rubio as a potential presidential candidate in 2028, according to a report in the UK Daily Mail. But is he a serious contender? And if so, who would he run against?

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00:00:00.000 this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone
00:00:16.440 now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
00:00:22.480 Welcome to the Stone Zone.
00:00:28.060 We're about to dive into the deep end.
00:00:32.320 This April 15th, you will be able to get your own U.S. Mint-issued $1 gold coin with the image of President Donald Trump.
00:00:43.300 Later in the show, the treasurer of the United States of America, Brandon Beach, joins us to talk about plans to roll out this coin.
00:00:52.480 This will be legal tender. Very excited about this.
00:00:57.140 Today, a story in the UK Daily Mail says that Secretary of State Marco Rubio is moving up on Vice President J.D. Vance as a potential presidential candidate in 2028.
00:01:13.560 Now, presidential politics is something I know a little bit about. I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns, serving on senior levels in the campaigns of President Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, serving in junior levels in the presidential campaigns of Richard Milhouse Nixon.
00:01:35.920 The Republican Party is about hegemony.
00:01:38.940 We believe in the natural order of things that J.D. Vance, just the fact that he's a very successful sitting vice president, has a big leg up in any future contest for the presidency.
00:01:53.480 Now, it is true that Marco Rubio, who I have supported in all of his U.S. Senate campaigns, including the one in which he challenged Democrat, I should say Republican, turned independent, turned Democrat, Charlie Crist, has a job that, on the one hand, gets one more publicity.
00:02:16.980 He's obviously in the forefront of our efforts in Venezuela, in Iran, and has, I think, done a spectacular job of implementing the policies of President Donald Trump, whereas the vice president of the United States, by nature, is in a position where he rarely gets the spotlight.
00:02:40.440 J.D. Vance is incredibly effective, but he's effective behind the scenes.
00:02:46.100 I can tell you that I don't think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or Tulsi Gabbard, for example, would have been confirmed by the U.S. Senate for their important positions without the effective maneuvering backstage by J.D. Vance.
00:03:02.100 He's also very articulate. Now, cutting against that claim is a new poll out from St. Alves Anselm's College in New Hampshire that showed J.D. Vance at 46 and Marco Rubio at 27.
00:03:24.240 him. Interesting, but also reflecting all of the other polling to date. The St. Ameson
00:03:33.520 poll, very respected in the Granite State, by the way, but this is not the first poll
00:03:40.880 that shows J.D. Vance with almost a two-to-one lead over Marco Rubio. It also assumes, by
00:03:49.100 the way, that there'll be no other candidates. Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, whose
00:03:55.300 multi-million dollar campaign was an ignominious failure when he challenged the man who made
00:04:02.200 him governor, Donald Trump, in the last presidential campaign, says that he might run again. That's
00:04:11.080 a little hard to understand. I'm not sure where he would raise the money to run, first
00:04:14.440 of all, because no one gave money to Ron DeSantis because they liked him. People gave
00:04:18.600 him money because he was the governor of Florida. He essentially extorted that money, and of course
00:04:25.340 he will no longer be governor in 2028. And then secondarily, Iowa, the first contest, really puts
00:04:33.840 a premium on retail politics. In other words, the voters of Iowa, in preparation for their caucuses,
00:04:40.620 they want you to sit at their kitchen table and drink coffee. They want you to spend hours in
00:04:46.040 endless forums in retail campaigning. Ron DeSantis is a man who never looks you in the eye,
00:04:53.040 never gives you a firm handshake, never says thank you. He was famous for wearing earbuds,
00:04:59.220 not because he was listening to anything, but because he could use them to avoid
00:05:02.880 human contact. So I don't, and all the polls, by the way, show him, despite the fact that he spent
00:05:09.340 millions of dollars just a year and some months ago running for president. Still in all of these
00:05:17.420 polls, he's in single digits. Of course, Tulsi Gabbard is a wild card, Democrat-turned-Republican.
00:05:25.720 I have said on many occasions, I think she will someday be president. Stand by that. It doesn't
00:05:31.720 necessarily mean 2028, but sometimes you become vice president by running for president. That,
00:05:39.040 of course, is the story of George H.W. Bush. So I tend to discount many of these early stories. I
00:05:48.860 think J.D. Vance is still a heavy favorite. On the other hand, Republicans better focus on the
00:05:55.240 2026 elections before getting all wrapped up about the 2028 elections. We could be in a situation
00:06:03.720 like we were in with Reagan.
00:06:06.440 In 1980, Reagan gave us what was up until that time
00:06:10.860 the largest tax cut in American history,
00:06:15.820 and those tax cuts did not have the beneficial effect
00:06:20.600 on the economy by 1982.
00:06:23.400 They were passed in 1981,
00:06:25.080 but by 1984, you had a roaring economy.
00:06:28.900 The Trump economy was off to a very good start.
00:06:32.860 The war obviously has caused some increase in gasoline prices.
00:06:40.360 I expect that to be temporary.
00:06:43.680 John Katsimatidis, who owns United Refining, knows a lot about that industry, a media mogul.
00:06:50.560 I saw a great interview with him the other day.
00:06:52.840 He said that he believes this increase in oil prices is temporary.
00:06:58.220 I completely agree with him.
00:07:00.220 So by 1984, I should say by 2028, I think there's a strong chance that we will have a boom economy, giving an advantage to any Republican candidate for president.
00:07:14.660 Also yesterday, President Donald Trump announced that he will not be attending the Conservative Political Action Conference.
00:07:22.000 I believe it's the first time since 2011 that that has been the case.
00:07:27.900 I was actually working for him then.
00:07:31.440 I was the one who explained to him what CPAC was
00:07:34.620 and engineered his invitation to the first CPAC conference in Washington, D.C.
00:07:40.980 The president says he's not going because some of the speakers, he believes,
00:07:45.000 have been compromised by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:07:49.100 I believe he's talking about Steve Bannon.
00:07:51.380 Steve Bannon, who has recently been exposed in the emails released by the Department of Justice as being an accomplice and advising Jeffrey Epstein on his public rehabilitations.
00:08:08.080 It's the same Steve Bannon, by the way, who pled guilty in New York State to embezzling $15 million from the Build the Wall Foundation.
00:08:17.460 Strangely enough, pled guilty but received no jail time.
00:08:21.280 Also named in a $1 billion fraud case as an unindicted co-conspirator.
00:08:28.060 It's interesting to me that when Bannon's latter-day financial patron, a Chinese national named Miles Guo, was sued in New York State on federal charges, federal fraud charges,
00:08:42.460 He was asked multiple times whether his money came from the CCP, money that flowed through to Steve Bannon and his war room.
00:08:51.320 And he pled the fifth, 55 times in that trial, specifically when he was asked about a man named William J.E., who is another Chinese national, who works very closely with both Bannon and Miles Guo.
00:09:10.120 So the records from that trial show that Bannon and Xi spoke by phone over 194 times in a 12-month period.
00:09:22.440 Xi is identified, both publicly and privately, as a member of the Communist Chinese Party, actually an official in the party.
00:09:32.040 So I think this is what the president was talking about.
00:09:35.100 So CPAC just doesn't have the punch it used to have.
00:09:39.020 And now with the president not attending and Steve Bannon is your headliner, I predict they're going to have very serious problems with ticket sales.
00:09:49.340 There's also a striking turnaround today at major U.S. airports, and it's raising eyebrows in Washington.
00:09:55.400 After many days of chaos, the TSA lines, which were stretching for hours during the ongoing government shutdown, have suddenly improved at, for example, Hartsfield-Jackson-Atlanta International Airport, one of the busiest airports in the world.
00:10:13.040 wait times dropped dramatically almost overnight.
00:10:17.060 The key difference is that ICE agents have stepped in to back up those TSA agents
00:10:23.340 who have chosen to stay on the job,
00:10:26.080 despite the fact that the Senate minority of Democrats refused to move legislation to finance ICE.
00:10:35.680 All of those doomsday reports we heard from liberals,
00:10:39.520 Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority yesterday, saying ICE agents would kill travelers in airports.
00:10:47.460 That's overheated rhetoric, if I've ever heard any.
00:10:50.720 Federal officials deployed ICE agents to more than a dozen airports yesterday
00:10:54.620 to assist with crowd control and ID checks as TSA staffing shortening started to worsen.
00:11:01.980 The results were shorter lines, smoother operations, and far less in frustration for travelers.
00:11:09.260 Over the weekend, some passengers waited for more than four hours to get through security.
00:11:14.540 Now, I'm happy to say, lines are moving quickly and the contrast is hard to ignore.
00:11:20.100 But, of course, not everyone is happy.
00:11:22.820 Union leaders representing TSA workers are criticizing the move,
00:11:26.420 claiming that ICE agents lack specialized training and shouldn't be involved in airport operations,
00:11:33.300 as if TSA are brain surgeons or rocket scientists rather than glorified mall cops.
00:11:39.520 They argue Congress should focus on funding the agency instead because they don't want their payola to run out.
00:11:47.380 But Americans are seeing a real-world example of leadership taking action.
00:11:51.540 President Donald Trump, a problem solver, used his executive power to solve a problem.
00:11:56.420 By the way, Tom Homan, the head of ICE, made it very clear that ICE agents were still in a secondary role at the airport, that it was still TSA agents responsible for the principal screening.
00:12:11.820 All of these government goons zapping us with radiation
00:12:16.440 Patting down our private parts really needed to keep us safe
00:12:20.420 This is what we should be asking ourselves about TSA
00:12:23.640 All levels of government amidst the shutdown crisis
00:12:27.800 If they're not absolutely necessary, well, I think they should go permanently
00:12:31.880 Now, the former head of the Department of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, didn't accomplish much
00:12:39.120 There will be multiple investigations into her relationship with one, Corey Lewandowski, who was technically not a government employee, but according to information that has now been widely published, was heavily involved in the contracting process at DHA.
00:12:59.540 But the key thing to remember is if Kristi Noem accomplished nothing else, we no longer have to take off our shoes when we go through TSA.
00:13:09.580 I'm Roger Stone.
00:13:10.540 You're listening to the Stone Zone, and we'll be right back.
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00:13:27.860 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:13:43.420 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:13:48.200 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
00:13:54.840 I can't tell you how much I appreciate those warm words from Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:14:02.440 I wish everyone in the Republican Party had his level of courage.
00:14:05.980 In a stunning act of political cowardice, the Senate Republicans are now acquiescing to a deal that would fund the Department of Homeland Security while abandoning key immigration enforcement in order to reopen the shutdown.
00:14:19.560 After more than five weeks of a partial government shutdown, Republican lawmakers are floating a plan that would fund most DHS operations, but deliberately leave ICE enforcement and removal programs out of the deal.
00:14:35.320 That means fewer deportations and weaker border enforcement.
00:14:39.560 This is the exact strategy Democrats have pushed for years, creating a crisis in an attempt to protect their vaunted illegal alien voting demographic.
00:14:48.360 demographic. And now, some Republicans, out of craven weakness, are actually embracing it.
00:14:55.520 Behind closed doors, Republican leaders admit they're giving Democrats what they want in hopes
00:15:01.040 of ending the shutdown. They claim it's a tactical move, but it's obviously surrender,
00:15:06.160 and that fact will not be lost on prospective midterm voters. The proposal would still fund
00:15:11.720 investigations into cartels, traffickers, and criminals. But without enforcement and removal,
00:15:17.360 it guts the very backbone of immigration law.
00:15:21.860 At a time when Americans are demanding secure borders,
00:15:25.600 as every poll shows mass deportations are overwhelmingly popular with the public,
00:15:30.860 this plan does the exact opposite.
00:15:33.680 Even worse, the deal hasn't been coordinated with House Republicans,
00:15:37.680 showing that it will be thrust on them and put them in a no-win situation.
00:15:42.160 Some senators are trying to quietly sideline stronger election security measures
00:15:47.300 and border provisions, pushing them off until later.
00:15:50.780 Another sign of lack of backbone.
00:15:53.340 Republican elected officials have yet again
00:15:55.360 listened to their special interest masters
00:15:57.220 rather than following the lead
00:15:59.060 of the greatest president in my lifetime, Donald Trump,
00:16:02.700 as well as the will of the American voters.
00:16:05.280 This is all the more reason why we have to get out there
00:16:08.740 and get active, and that you need to be very careful
00:16:11.560 in the candidates that you select
00:16:12.900 in the upcoming primaries,
00:16:14.940 be you a Republican or a Democrat.
00:16:17.300 until we get a Republican Party that is not more concerned with re-election
00:16:24.300 and more concerned about making America great again, the country will not be saved.
00:16:30.640 Meanwhile, more Russiagate treachery has been exposed, but my question is an obvious one.
00:16:37.180 With the passing of Robert Mueller, a man who prosecuted me despite a paucity of evidence,
00:16:44.380 a man who was forced to admit in his long-hidden, long-redacted final report
00:16:49.660 that he'd actually found no evidence of Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration,
00:16:54.640 or any other crime on my part, something that was concealed to me and my defense lawyers for 18 months.
00:17:01.980 Why has no one been brought to account?
00:17:05.340 See, the Democrats say it's about retaliation and revenge,
00:17:08.880 when in fact it's about accountability and justice.
00:17:12.200 The Russian collusion hoax was the greatest single dirty trick, the greatest single abuse of government power in American history.
00:17:21.600 And thanks to Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, we know exactly who was responsible, but none of them have yet been brought to account.
00:17:31.160 None of them have yet been charged. It is an outrage.
00:17:34.540 Don't go away. Coming up, the U.S. Treasurer of the United States, Brandon Beach, joins us to talk about the gold Trump coin that is moving forward and will be available to the American public from the U.S. Mint on April 15th.
00:17:51.200 I want to get the back story behind that.
00:17:54.280 I'm very excited to have my Trump coin.
00:17:57.340 How limited they're going to be, I don't know.
00:17:59.420 But the Commission on Fine Arts last week approved a 24-karat gold coin bearing President Trump's likeness to celebrate America's 250th birthday.
00:18:11.220 We'll be right back to talk all about it.
00:18:21.200 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:18:32.180 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
00:18:38.520 people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone here's roger stone
00:18:44.080 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:18:48.260 Joining me now is the Treasurer of the United States, Brandon Beach.
00:18:53.020 Talked about an exciting story that I read in the New York Post,
00:18:56.940 and that is that the U.S. Mint is moving forward with a gold commemorative coin
00:19:02.600 featuring President Donald Trump's image,
00:19:05.820 which I believe will be issued by the Mint in April, if I'm correct.
00:19:11.260 Now, this is breaking with tradition. Traditionally, we have not featured sitting presidents on our money, but I can't think of a more deserving or emblematic symbol for America and liberty than President Donald Trump.
00:19:31.840 So, Treasurer Brandon Beach, welcome into the Stone Zone.
00:19:35.480 Well, Roger, thank you for having me on the Stone Zone.
00:19:38.620 And before we talk about the dollar coin and President Trump's accomplishments,
00:19:42.580 I first want to just thank you for your service to our country from the Nixon administration,
00:19:47.000 Reagan administration, and now in the Trump administration,
00:19:50.420 and for advancing President Trump's America First agenda.
00:19:53.620 So thank you for what you've done and continue to do to make America great.
00:19:59.880 You know, we are doing this.
00:20:01.140 That's very kind.
00:20:02.080 Well, we are doing this.
00:20:03.320 Well, thank you.
00:20:03.840 we are doing this trump dollar coin and i want to tell you april 15th we will produce two million
00:20:09.520 of them there'll be a and these will be legal tender this will be a dollar coin that you can
00:20:15.540 go and spend at a convenience store or a a you know coffee shop and and buy a cup of coffee with
00:20:23.500 uh it will be a dollar legal tender coin with president trump on it again we're going to
00:20:30.120 produce it. It'll be gold, and it will be, like I said, done April 15th. We'll produce about two
00:20:37.380 million of them first and get them out, and we're going to get them out to the public as soon as we
00:20:43.280 can so that you can use them to spend money on and spend it and use it just like a dollar bill,
00:20:49.260 but it'll be a dollar coin. The Circulating Coin Redesign Act of 2020 allowed us to do this,
00:20:57.200 and you do not have to be deceased to be on a a coin now on paper currency you have to be deceased
00:21:05.420 now there is a bill uh in chairman french hills committee to do i want to do a 250 bill with
00:21:12.800 president trump on it but i have to get congress to approve that it's h.r 1761 and right now it got
00:21:20.060 out of the andy bar subcommittee and now it's in french hills committee if we can get it out then
00:21:24.900 to go to rules and then to the House floor and then over to the Senate. That's going to be a
00:21:29.000 little heavier lift, but I think we're still going to get there on that. And I mentioned that to him
00:21:34.280 when he appointed me to this job. I wanted to put him on a $250 bill for our 250-year birthday
00:21:39.820 celebration. And at the time, I didn't know you had to be deceased to be on money. So we decided
00:21:45.340 to go ahead and try to get a bill passed, and that's in the works. The other coin we're going
00:21:49.560 to have is we're going to have another coin that's going to be 24 karat gold uh it's going
00:21:54.820 to be three inches in diameter uh and it's going to have a the the dollar coin will have his his
00:22:01.440 picture on it his head shot on the three inch coin that's going to be we're going to produce 47 of
00:22:09.240 those and they may run in the 25 to 30 thousand dollar range and it's got him standing behind a
00:22:14.540 desk. And it's going to be a really nice coin for coin collectors and for people that just love
00:22:21.260 President Trump. And we'll do more of them if the demand exceeds 47. So we got some nice things
00:22:28.960 happening for the president. And nobody's more deserving than than President Trump.
00:22:35.760 Yeah, I can I can hear liberal heads exploding across the country at this very instant.
00:22:40.860 But I salute you for your courage, and I completely agree with your conclusion.
00:22:47.520 On the other hand, I thought you said how many of the initial coin will be issued?
00:22:53.460 Well, on the 15th, we're going to produce $2 million, and then we will get those out and then come back and produce more.
00:23:00.220 And they'll be being produced on an ongoing basis, just like we do nickels, dimes, and quarters.
00:23:05.880 We will produce them as needed and getting them out to, you know, the retailers.
00:23:11.020 And when they need more, we'll produce more.
00:23:13.940 I would think that many Americans will buy it, will get that coin and hold on to it in perpetuity because we will never see a president again like this one.
00:23:24.500 I've worked for four presidents, but there is no one like Donald Trump.
00:23:28.580 One thing I did want to ask you about, because we talked about this previously, it was under this administration and your leadership at the Treasury Department that we did away with the penny.
00:23:40.960 We no longer have the penny.
00:23:42.600 Sorry, Abe.
00:23:44.580 Tell us a little bit about the decision to end production of the penny.
00:23:49.760 We did a great thing for the taxpayers with that very last penny, as I recall.
00:23:54.360 This is part of President Trump's common sense agenda, Roger.
00:23:57.480 he saw what was going on pre-COVID we did about 10 billion pennies a year we produced
00:24:04.900 last year we produced less than two billion but the cost went from one penny to four and a half
00:24:10.180 cents and that's just not common sense and that's not in um you know president trump's common sense
00:24:16.140 agenda so we are going to save the taxpayers 56 million dollars annually by eliminating the penny
00:24:22.400 Now, the good news is I was fortunate enough to strike the last penny in Philadelphia, and I held it up, and we struck it, and then held it up, and then I signed the authenticity papers, and for two weeks we auctioned it off, and we thought we were going to get $5 million for it.
00:24:37.340 We ended up selling it for $16.7 million for that last penny, so that also goes into Treasury to help reduce the national debt, but it just made common sense to get rid of the penny.
00:24:52.380 There are $300 billion in circulation, and so we hopefully won't run out of them immediately.
00:24:58.740 But we are seeing some Walmart and McDonald's and some other retailers having trouble getting their hands on pennies.
00:25:05.100 So I don't know if people are hoarding them or what, but it was something that needed to be done, and there's no need for a penny anymore.
00:25:11.540 Again, sorry, Abe, but it was time to go.
00:25:13.660 So going back to this 24-carat gold coin that's going to be issued to commemorate America's 250th anniversary, how was the image of President Trump that will appear on the coin selected?
00:25:29.880 Well, we went through several proofs and prototypes, and he looked at them.
00:25:39.760 Secretary Besson looked at them.
00:25:41.300 I looked at them, and we came up with several, and then we picked what we thought looked best and what he would like.
00:25:48.320 Listen, there's nobody more deserving to be on this coin than President Donald J. Trump.
00:25:54.160 I can tell you, when you look at what he's done just this term, from day one, President Trump hit the ground running with executive orders, the tariffs that he and Secretary Bessent implemented to get more manufacturing jobs back and even the playing field.
00:26:10.880 And then really the one thing that was really big that President Trump led on was the one big, beautiful bill.
00:26:17.100 And he laid the foundation in 2025, and I think we're going to see the fruits of that labor in 2026.
00:26:23.120 and I'm really bullish and optimistic about 2026, and here's why.
00:26:27.760 Number one, it's our 250th birthday.
00:26:29.720 We're going to be talking about American exceptionalism, American pride, American spirit,
00:26:34.900 American success stories, people that have been successful,
00:26:37.300 like a Jeff Sprecher that came to Atlanta with $1,000, started an intercontinental exchange.
00:26:43.020 Now he owns a New York Stock Exchange and several other exchanges and is a multibillionaire.
00:26:47.980 That only happens in America.
00:26:49.960 Another example is from my home state of Louisiana.
00:26:52.580 You look at Todd Graves, couldn't get a loan to open up a restaurant, went and worked on an oil rig for a couple years, saved $50,000.
00:27:01.140 Now he owns Raisin Cane's, and he's worth $22 billion.
00:27:04.280 That only happens in America.
00:27:06.220 So we're going to talk about that.
00:27:07.840 The other thing we've got going, we've got the FIFA World Cup coming that's going to showcase our country to the world and really help from an economic development standpoint.
00:27:16.640 And then, as I mentioned, the one big, beautiful bill.
00:27:18.780 When you look at what's kicking in now, I was at a restaurant the other night up here in D.C., and I asked the waiter, I said, have you done your taxes yet?
00:27:25.940 He said, yes, and I got $7,500 more cash back in my pockets because I didn't have to pay tax on tips.
00:27:32.640 No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.
00:27:36.440 So I think you're going to see money flowing.
00:27:38.560 The next thing I think that's going to really help is we have a new Fed chair, and I would see interest rates going down so that young people can afford to buy a house.
00:27:46.020 And I know right now we're going through a tough time on oil prices, but I think once we conclude this Iran war and we not only become energy independent, we become energy dominant, I think you'll see $2 a gallon gas in the near future.
00:28:00.580 Then you top that with GDPs at 4.4, I believe it'll go to 5.0.
00:28:05.800 And then since President Trump's been in office again in the second term, we've had over 53 record days on Wall Street, and the Dow hit 50,000 for the first time a month ago.
00:28:15.320 So when you add all that together, I think we're going to have a booming economy.
00:28:20.480 And this will be a stark contrast with what's going on in New York City, capitalism versus socialism.
00:28:27.840 And I'll take capitalism all day, and that's what President Trump believes in, too.
00:28:31.540 So I'm really looking forward to 2026.
00:28:35.440 I think we're going to have a booming economy.
00:28:38.800 and there's nobody that knows how to really take an economy and really get it going
00:28:44.780 than President Trump.
00:28:45.960 He did in his first term before COVID,
00:28:47.980 and now he's inherited a mess from the previous administration.
00:28:51.900 Look what we've done already as far as the economy,
00:28:54.860 and I'm really feeling good about where we're at.
00:28:57.400 It just proves, Roger, leadership matters, elections matter,
00:29:01.780 and elections have consequences.
00:29:03.940 And, you know, thank goodness President Trump got reelected.
00:29:07.960 I'm in total agreement with you.
00:29:09.680 I can't stand these panic-ins who are ready to throw in the towel on 2026.
00:29:14.820 They don't understand, first of all, how volatile our politics are.
00:29:18.420 They don't understand how rock-solid the president's base is.
00:29:22.520 You don't see the kind of weakness in the base that Jimmy Carter had,
00:29:27.580 which brought on the challenge from Ted Kennedy,
00:29:30.880 the kind of weakness that Gerald Ford had brought on the challenge by Ronald Reagan.
00:29:35.440 And I've never seen the party more united.
00:29:39.040 You wouldn't know this when you go to social media and you see all these so-called influencers bickering with each other.
00:29:45.120 But the Trump voter is very solid.
00:29:47.940 I'm not just talking just about Republicans, but also independents and a small number of Democrats who are Trump first.
00:29:57.640 And there's no erosion in that support, despite the constant attacks of the fake news media.
00:30:05.180 One thing I want to get at that's hard to quantify, I've known the president for 50 years.
00:30:12.060 You know him well.
00:30:14.020 I try to tell people that the Trump you see in public is exactly like the Trump you see in private.
00:30:21.220 In other words, like politicians, he doesn't have two faces.
00:30:24.660 He only has one face.
00:30:26.080 There is only one Trump.
00:30:27.600 He is one of the funniest, most entertaining, most decent, most thoughtful people I've ever known.
00:30:36.440 But people don't really believe it.
00:30:38.200 They think that it's some kind of act.
00:30:40.120 Tell people, since you've spent a lot of time with the president, you've opened for him in, I think, 17 rallies and his amazing comeback.
00:30:47.120 What's the president really like?
00:30:49.160 Well, to your point, Roger, I was fortunate to be part of President Trump's campaign and really go backstage.
00:30:56.760 And when you go backstage, you get to really see behind the curtain.
00:31:00.320 And it didn't take me long to figure out, one, President Trump, he loves our country.
00:31:05.300 He wants America to be first.
00:31:07.640 We want to beat China. 0.99
00:31:08.880 We want to beat Russia. 0.94
00:31:09.880 We want to win.
00:31:10.960 We want the USA to be the best, number one.
00:31:14.440 Number two, President Trump loves his family.
00:31:17.580 You know, you look at President Trump's children.
00:31:19.940 They all work.
00:31:20.740 They're all successful.
00:31:21.860 You don't see them in any kind of trouble.
00:31:24.400 He is tough on his family.
00:31:25.900 he loves his family. The other thing I will tell you backstage, President Trump always had either
00:31:31.060 30 to 35 law enforcement, military, or first responders back there, and he was thanking them,
00:31:37.360 he took pictures with them, and he didn't publicize it. But it made me realize real quick,
00:31:43.300 President Trump loves, respects law enforcement and the military. But I will tell you what
00:31:47.960 President Trump really loves, and that's capitalism. He wants you, your kids, your
00:31:52.620 grandkids to have the opportunity to pursue the American dream. And President Trump realizes
00:31:58.000 government doesn't create jobs. The private sector creates jobs. But what he does realize is that we
00:32:03.840 can, government can create this conducive environment through, you know, tariffs and fair
00:32:08.860 trade, low taxes, less regulation, an educated workforce and infrastructure investment, both roads,
00:32:15.560 bridges, and 21st century infrastructure. He knows we've got to win this AI war. There's not going to
00:32:21.580 be a first and a second place finish or there's going to be just one winner and we need to win
00:32:26.120 and if we do those things and get out of the way the private sector will flourish and to your point
00:32:33.180 roger he cares about people every time i see him he asked about my daughter and my son how's your
00:32:38.340 son's golf game how's your daughter doing he's just unbelievable uh all the people he meets and
00:32:45.440 how good he is about that. But I will tell you, the president does have that ability.
00:32:52.920 You know, you talk to his Secret Service agents, they'll tell you he cares about them
00:32:56.540 and ask about their family. And not many presidents do that. So he's one of a kind.
00:33:03.820 I'm not sure we'll ever see another president like President Trump.
00:33:07.040 I could not agree more. We're going to have to wrap it there. I want to thank the treasurer
00:33:11.260 of the United States of America, Brandon Beach,
00:33:13.820 both for his leadership in making the 24-carat gold coin
00:33:18.620 to commemorate America's 250th birthday
00:33:21.740 with President Trump's visage on it,
00:33:24.320 a reality in April,
00:33:25.940 but also for his leadership to make America great again.
00:33:30.260 Mr. Treasurer, thank you so much for joining us.
00:33:33.140 Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Take care.
00:33:34.860 God bless you, my friend.
00:33:36.260 All right, you're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:33:38.200 I'm Roger Stone.
00:33:38.960 And we'll be right back with more politics on the other side.
00:33:52.520 This is the Stone Zone.
00:33:54.960 Now, get in the zone. 0.94
00:33:56.900 It's the Stone Zone.
00:33:58.860 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
00:34:05.980 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
00:34:08.320 Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?
00:34:10.740 Here's Roger Stone.
00:34:14.260 And you're back for the final segment of the Stone Zone.
00:34:18.760 Somewhat ironic that in the same week that former FBI director and special counsel Robert Mueller passes,
00:34:26.260 that newly classified documents are raising even more concerns about government treachery during the Russia gate investigation.
00:34:34.180 According to recently released reports, former Trump campaign advisor Waleed Faris was secretly spied on by the FBI for nearly a year, despite the fact that investigators found no evidence whatsoever of wrongdoing.
00:34:48.860 The surveillance conducted under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, that's FISA, reportedly continued even after agents concluded that Faris was honest and had no ties to any criminal activity or any Russian collusion.
00:35:03.440 An FBI agent involved in the case testified that nothing collected during these wiretaps advanced the investigation other than confirming that Ferris had lost, had told the truth, pardon me.
00:35:15.760 Critically, the FBI is accused of withholding exculpatory evidence from the secret FISA court, information that would have prevented or halted this illegal spying.
00:35:25.780 This mirrors exactly what happened to my colleague, Carter Page, and very sadly, what happened to me.
00:35:34.800 During the investigation that the Mueller witch hunt focused on me, prosecutors told two federal judges that they had evidence of probable cause, I guess you'd say,
00:35:50.100 charging me with treason, a conspiracy against the United States, counterfeiting, wire fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, as well as numerous other crimes.
00:36:02.720 Of course, after they got into my electronic records, my emails, my text messages, they found that they had no evidence whatsoever of any of those crimes.
00:36:12.980 It was then that one of the prosecutors, Aaron Zielinski, by the way, all the prosecutors in my case previously worked for Hillary Clinton, tried to pressure a young field man who was working in the Trump campaign into visiting me in South Florida and wearing a wire in a ham-handed attempt to entrap me in some way.
00:36:36.600 Fortunately for me, this individual refused.
00:36:39.360 But it shows the depths to which they would go in order to destroy those who supported the president.
00:36:46.780 In my case, I think most people understand.
00:36:48.520 In order to violate the False Statements Act, in other words, to lie under oath before Congress, one has to have motive and it has to be material.
00:36:59.660 There was no Russian collusion to lie about.
00:37:02.200 So when the judge said to me a sentencing, you have been convicted of lying to cover up for Donald Trump, I say, cover up exactly what?
00:37:13.060 Very clever the way that the Mueller prosecutors judge shopped to get Judge Amy Berman Jackson.
00:37:20.680 They claimed and they brought a case against 17 Russians claiming that they had hacked the Democrat National Committee, a case that never went to discovery and never went to trial.
00:37:30.600 They claim that my case was related to that case, yet in my trial, they wouldn't let me present forensic evidence or expert testimony to prove that there was no hack of the Democrat National Committee.
00:37:44.380 The prosecutors promised that they would produce evidence against me that was gleaned from search warrants in that other case.
00:37:53.700 Of course, they never did because it didn't exist.
00:37:57.300 I thank God Almighty.
00:37:58.800 It is only through the grace of God that I'm with you here today.
00:38:01.680 And the fact that Donald Trump saw very clearly that I was being prosecuted not because I did something wrong,
00:38:08.940 but because I refused to testify falsely against him.
00:38:12.860 I would not bear false witness against him.
00:38:16.380 And that is the true story of the Mueller investigation.
00:38:20.820 So when people say, oh, Trump was harsh when he said he was glad that Mueller was dead,
00:38:25.820 How harsh was it when FBI agents raided my home, 29 of them at 6 o'clock in the morning, and perp walked my 73-year-old wife, who is virtually deaf, out into the street for the CNN cameras?
00:38:40.120 I would say that that was harsh.
00:38:42.340 That's right. You heard it here in the Stone Zone.
00:38:44.460 I'm Roger Stone. Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.