The Stone Zone | 04-08-25
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The Stone Zone is a weekly podcast hosted by former White House correspondent for the Associated Press, Roger Stone. This week's guest is President Donald J. Trump's former press secretary, Sean Spicer, joins the show to talk about a variety of topics, including who will become the next United States' next U.N. ambassador, the release of the Crossfire Hurricane documents, and why the Fbi raided President Trump's home.
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this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone
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now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone welcome you are entering the stone
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zone later on i'm going to be taking your questions you can send them to me at stone at stonezone.com
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that's stone at stonezone.com i was at president donald trump's palatial mar-a-lago club saturday
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night for dinner saw the president also my colleague on 77 wabc radio janine pierro as well
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as secretary of state marco rubio it was a great evening i must say the president is fit as a
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fiddle he he was happy he looked healthy he's lost a little weight i have noticed that his
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hair color is increasingly blonde or so blonde that it is almost white in fact he's almost identical to
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my hair color but i've never seen him in such a good mood of course the topic buzzing through the
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club was who will be the next u.n ambassador as you know the president decided to withdraw the
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nomination of elise stefanik the upstate new york congresswoman who had previously previously been
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designated as the u.n ambassador she had actually been approved by committee in the senate but had
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never submitted her resignation from the house because of the slimness of the republican majority
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there after the president won back-to-back victories in two florida special elections the decision was
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made to withdraw the nomination because the victory was not assured in this upstate new york district at
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least stefanik could certainly be elected but a special election is a different animal doesn't
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bring out the same electorate and frankly democrats are angry because the new world order is being taken
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down and i guess they're unhappy that the u.s supreme court has now ruled that the most dangerous
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violent extremists and terrorists and criminals can be deported they're unhappy that elon musk and his
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doge are uncovering not millions not billions but trillions of dollars of our tax dollars going for
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esoteric and political causes that well the american people never knew we'd be giving 140 million dollars to
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the new york times or 90 million dollars to politico or five million dollars to reuters or 150 million
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dollars to brown university uh why would we be spending money on these things why would we be
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spending money to push the russian collusion hoax narrative or to push the covet 19 hoax narrative
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so it is uh absolutely clear that the president did the right thing and hats off to elise stefanik who
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put her personal ambitions on hold i think she's a great woman i think she would have been a great
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u.n ambassador i think that her greatest days of public service lie yet ahead and i'm certain that
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she will be appointed to a high level position in the future trump administration but a lot of names
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buzzing uh first of all let me say the president himself was giving no hints so the the the mentions
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here are what i picked up but not what he told me he's if he's chosen somebody he's keeping that to
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himself if there's a front runner he's not telling you that either david friedman uh a banker from new
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york is thought to be one of the front runners he was instrumental in the passage of the historic
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abraham accords which highlights his diplomatic experience and his alignment with trump policies
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rick grunnell uh i guess he'd be my personal favorite rick grunnell has a history of diplomatic
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roles under president trump including ambassador to germany and the acting director of national
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intelligence it was under rick grunnell that the crossfire hurricane documents were ordered to be
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declassified something that actually never happened at the end of the trump administration trump gave the
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order but the bureaucrats knew he was leaving office so they didn't care the president more recently now
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in his new term has ordered yet again the release of the crossfire hurricane documents those are the
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documents that tell us who was behind the russian collusion hoax and why if you want to know why the fbi
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raided president trump's uh home at mar-a-lago same way they raided my home well it was because they
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need to get the russian collusion crossfire hurricane documents back because it will show you exactly who
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starting with barack obama and joe biden and national security advisor susan rice and fbi director
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james comey and cia director john brennan uh andrew mccabe of the fbi all of them in an illegal cabal
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i mean let's face it the russian collusion hoax was the greatest single dirty trick in american
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political history it was nothing less than the use of the full authority of the united states government
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and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence agencies uh utilizing two pieces of
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quote-unquote evidence that they all knew were fraudulent the so-called steel dossier uh that was
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a report commissioned and paid for illegally by hillary clinton's campaign she paid a fine for it
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actually uh which falsely alleged that donald trump had dallied with prostitutes uh when he was in
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moscow as a private businessman years ago and that he had witnessed them allegedly urinating on a
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hotel bed that barack obama and his wife had once slept in total fiction in fact uh andrew weissman who
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was the de facto head of the muller inquisition and also the single most corrupt federal prosecutor in
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u.s history a man who got his start covering up mob murders right there in brooklyn the guy who
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brought down enron and arthur anderson only to have the convictions that he won unanimously overturned
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by the u.s supreme court for prosecutorial misconduct weissman knew all the way back to his days as
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general counsel to the fbi that the so-called steel dossier was a fraud but nonetheless it was used as
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the pretext uh to launch the entire russian collusion hoax which came very close to destroying
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me and my family even though there was never evident any evidence produced that connected me to
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russian collusion wikileaks collaboration or any other illegal act no folks i was prosecuted to pressure
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me into testifying falsely against president donald trump which i of course refused to do but uh others
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being mentioned for the u.n uh senator bill haggerty republican senator from tennessee previously served
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as trump's ambassador to pan during his first term although his senate seat could affect uh his
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availability due to the slim republican margins uh in congress there is also some discussion of
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kerry lake uh kerry lake uh who ran for both governor and the senate in arizona both of those questions
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elections have election integrity issues that are deeply troubling kerry lake is one of the most effective
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communicators i've ever met she's a good friend she would be great at the u.n uh i like her uh as well
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there's actually some outsider speculation about former casino mogul steve winn one of the president's
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closest friends that would be an interesting choice but again as i say uh if the president has chosen
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somebody or if there's really a front runner he hasn't tipped his hand by the way we're going to
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be taking your questions by email later go to stone at stone zone dot com stone at stone zone dot com and
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we will entertain your questions whether it's about news history politics style or culture uh be happy to
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answer your questions uh the big news of course is donald trump's uh dogged insistence uh that our
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trading partners are going to give us a fair deal and if that means hitting them with tariffs that are
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larger pardon me hitting them with tariffs that are not as large as the tariffs that they are levying on
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american products entering their countries well then so be it any idea that the president is going to
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soften his line on tariffs well then you just don't know donald j trump uh what's going on in the stock
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market and i'm not a financial expert but i think it needs to be investigated either the treasury
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department or the sec or perhaps doge should do a forensic audit on the large trades which have caused
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the stock market to crash this was done by institutional investors to purposely crash the
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market in my opinion by the way that's treason if they're americans or maybe an act of war if done by
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foreign actors it's definitely stock market manipulation it was done to try to force the
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president to reverse the tariffs one thing i know about donald trump who i've known for 50 years
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by the way he hates it when i say that because he says he just tells everybody how old both of us are
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uh is that when he sets his mind on a goal he is the most stubborn person in the universe i don't say
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that as a criticism i say it as a compliment uh he is dogged in his determination to make america first
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again uh this is really not complicated the sec can find out who's involved within a day they can
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track all of this stock market activity very closely due to their monitoring for insider trading
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they just need to search the server to see who made the biggest trades and when
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uh this again was not done by individual investors it was done by quote institutional investors
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those are companies we need to see who they are because i for one smell a rat
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uh in the meantime president trump's hard line on tariffs that began last wednesday already bringing
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massive successful results the mexicans uh have announced that they will go to zero tariffs they
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will drop all tariffs and therefore the president has said that we will drop all tariffs on mexico this
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is what this is really about uh when i interviewed uh steven moore of the club for growth who in my
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opinion is one of the most brilliant economists in the country he was a chief economic advisor to
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president donald trump's 2016 campaign i interviewed him right here uh on the red apple audio networks
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uh he said that he's not a fan of tariffs well you know either am i in fact in a perfect world i'm a
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free trader guess what so is donald trump if we could have no tariffs between any of ourselves and
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any of our trading partners well that's what the president would prefer but as long as they are
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slapping prohibitive tariffs on us then we need to return the fire uh and uh it is having the
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desired results the upran union has already offered the united states a flat deal of zero tariffs for
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zero tariffs european commission president ursula von der lan said the u.n offered zero for zero
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tariff for industrial goods because europe is always ready for a good deal so let's keep it on the
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table this woman is starting to get donald trump on true social president trump said we have a massive
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financial deficit with china the european union and many others the only way this problem can be cured
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is with tariffs which are now beginning to bring tens of billions of dollars into the united states
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they're already in effect and a beautiful thing to behold the per the surplus with these countries
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has grown during the presidency of sleepy joe biden we're going to reverse that and we're going to
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reverse it very quickly someday the american people realize that tariffs for the united states of america
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are a very beautiful thing as i said earlier this is one but one leg of a three-legged stool the
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other two are tax cuts no not tax cuts for the rich but the across the board tax cuts initially enacted
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by president trump which need to be renewed before january if you are against the renewal of the tax
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cuts well then you're for the greatest single tax increase in american history in the meantime you're in the
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this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger stone who's sitting in the
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office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now he's cleaner than anybody in this
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place now as i treated him very unfairly now get him his own it's the stone zone here's roger stone
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and you're back in the stone zone ignore the fake news media president trump's three-pronged strategy of
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sweeping tariffs on those who put tariffs on our goods and services uh tax reduction and deep spending cuts
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and the waste fraud and corrupt spending uncovered by elon musk is going to revive the american economy
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as the president said yesterday don't be a panicking he's a new party the panicans those who are flipping
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out hysterical apoplectic about the fact that finally we're going to get fair trade in this country now we
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could have no tariffs at all if the our trading partners will go to zero we'll go to zero and that's uh
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that's the desire because donald trump really wants to increase uh our prosperity and he will fight
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for the middle class those who think you can cow him into backing down well they just don't know
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donald trump the way i know him stock markets across asia cratered uh yesterday as a result of
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president trump's sweeping tariffs triggered panic selling the chinese stock market was down
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five point five percent in a major plunge now those who say that the tariffs cause inflation well that's
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just false uh it's interesting china has uh the lowest tariff rate on other countries in the united
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states yet they have no inflation whatsoever they have deflation uh so that whole notion that inflation
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will be fed by the tariffs well that is once again liberal disinformation when it comes to
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china trump said yesterday china issued retaliatory tariffs of 34 on top of their already record
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setting tariffs non-monetary tariffs civil illegal subsidization of companies and massive long-term
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currency manipulation despite my warning that any country that retaliate against the united states by
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additional tariffs above and beyond their already existing long-term tariff abuse of this country
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will be immediately met with new and substantially higher tariffs over and above those initially
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set therefore if china does not withdraw its 34 increases above their already long-term trading
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abuses uh by today the united states will impose additional tariffs on china of 50 i think he did
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that this afternoon additionally all talks with china concerning their requested meetings with us will be
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terminated negotiations with other countries which have also requested will begin taking place
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immediately thank you for your attention to this matter to the president donald trump is open for business
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folks he is a master negotiator all we have to do is remain steady remain focused on the target uh and
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move forward we must continue and i'm comfortable with the leadership of the greatest president
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since abraham lincoln that would be donald j trump you're in the stone zone and we'll be right back
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as promised today the trump administration increased tariffs to 104 on china that went into effect
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today uh while president trump is correcting a decades-long problem with the economy talking
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heads on cable news attempt to cause a panic over the stock market i talked of this earlier this is
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stock market manipulation to this president trump said the united states has a chance to do something
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that should have been done decades ago don't be weak don't be stupid don't be a panicking that's a
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new party that he is uh that he has conjured up based on weakness and stupidity be strong courageous
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and patient and greatness for america will be the result the white house also had to issue a statement
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response to a false report that trump would announce a 90-day pause on the tariffs fake news the white house
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rapid response account on x basically said wrong fake news i'd say they nailed it we're taking your
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questions now uh lisa in canarsie says uh you have worked for at least four presidents who is the
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greatest president of your lifetime now there is a complicated question for me uh of my lifetime well i
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i was born in 1952 uh ironically my birthday is august 27th the same day as well linden baines johnson
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the man who i argued in a 2013 new york times best-selling book the man who killed kennedy the case
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against lbj uh planned and orchestrated the murder of president john f kennedy he did it uh with assistance
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from the cia the mob big texas oil and banking interests among others uh and lyndon johnson was
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certainly the worst president of my lifetime and that's saying a lot because it covers jimmy carter
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i think jimmy carter by the way was a good man a fine uh patriotic american a good christian he was just
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way in over his head he was not evil he was not corrupt uh but he was not up to the job he died a
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happy man because well after joe biden he no longer goes down as the worst president in history
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that title is reserved for for sleepy joe uh but it was lyndon johnson who first dipped into the social
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security test fund to pay for other government expenses this is what endangers the future social
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security payments of so many americans who have paid into the system through their payroll taxes and
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they say by 2033 well the system will be bankrupt uh thank you lyndon johnson but as to who was the
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greatest president in our lifetime well 1952 dwight eisenhower was president now ike was a far greater
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president than most people realize because he was so low-key uh and because we were just coming into
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the television age in the early 50s i don't think he gets the credit he deserved we had unprecedented
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peace and prosperity under ike uh and uh he was a military man but he refused the demands of the
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pentagon and the military industrial complex for deficit spending to pay for armaments that he
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adjudged that we did not need we had the ability to kill everybody in the world three times over why
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did we need to pay to be able to kill them 15 times over uh your last balance budget was under
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dwight eisenhower i am of course uh a a protege and uh an unabashed admirer of one richard millhouse
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nixon up until the time of donald trump he staged the greatest single comeback in american political
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history uh he uh was cheated out of the presidency in 1960 i established that in my book uh tricky dick
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the rise and fall and rise of richard m nixon and uh he was toppled by the cia in watergate don't take
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my word for it look at the declassified documents that were released less than a year ago uh four of
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the eight watergate burglars were still on the payroll of the cia by the way it's the same four who just
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happened to be on the ground in dealey plaza on november 22nd 1963 how incredibly coincidental
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under richard nixon we had a strategic arms limitation agreement with the soviets
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we desegregated the public schools without any violence or incident but when nixon became president
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uh almost 82 percent of the public schools in america were still segregated uh when he left office
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that number was about 16 he gets no credit for that by the way richard nixon appointed more african
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americans to federal office than lyndon johnson and john f kennedy combined some criticize nixon for
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opening the door to china saying that it is his fault that china menaces this country today i think that
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is a misreading of history when richard nixon uh brought china in out of the cold when he visited
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peking uh in a daring gambit to force the russians to the table for strategic arms limitations
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uh china was a dirt poor backward agrarian society very few people in china had indoor plumbing and the
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rural areas had no electricity they had no military capability they had no nuclear weapons they
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had no technology there was no way for richard nixon to know that 30 years later bill and hillary clinton
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would give the chinese most favored nation trading status which is what made them the danger to this
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country they are today made them an economic superpower it was also bill clinton who sold them
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uh in the laurel scandal uh our most sensitive military secrets including our missile targeting technology in
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return for illegal campaign contributions for his reelection that by the way is what he should have
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been impeached for not his dalliance with an intern in the oval office uh it was richard nixon uh who
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uh who unilaterally saved israel from complete annihilation uh in the 1973 yam kipper war
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uh over the objections by the way of his national security advisor uh later secretary of state henry
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kissinger uh over the objections of the joint chiefs of staffs over the objections of his entire
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national security apparatus when golda meyer publicly called uh uh on president richard nixon and put out
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the urgent sos the israelis had their backs to the sea they were out of ammunition after a surprise
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attack by the syrians and the egyptians which was not uh predicted in advance by israelis wanted
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intelligence services and it was nixon who airlifted 37 million dollars of lethal aid to israel allowing
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them to survive uh it's amazing how many people don't know this there is a watergate area tape which
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is almost never played uh those who work for nixon knew that sometimes when he gave an order if you
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disagreed with it you could kind of wait him out and maybe the next day or the day off enter he would
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reconsider and rescind the offer in this case he ordered the lethal aid be sent to the israelis as
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quickly as possible when he saw his national security advisor henry kissinger the next day he said
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so have the israelis gotten the aid yet and kissinger said no we we haven't been able to decide what kind
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of plane to send it in nixon was furious he called admiral thomas moorer who was the chairman of the
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joint chiefs of staff and he said uh if if uh send anything that will fly anything that will fly if
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those planes are not in the air within the hour i'm gonna come over there and put my foot up your
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well you can imagine the rest how come they don't play that watergate area era tape uh no uh whether
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it is uh those accomplishments uh he was uh a above all a peacemaker uh and i i do think his history will
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be very kind to richard nixon uh kinder than it has been uh when you look at watergate it looks like a
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milk-fed puppy compared to the dirty tricks and abuse of power by barack obama in the russian collusion
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hoax and then of course there is ronald reagan i spent a lot of time with ronald reagan i worked in
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his 1976 his 1980 and his 1984 campaigns 76 when we challenged jerald ford he would go down in history
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of his not one of our better presidents uh general ford of course was involved in the cover-up of john
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f kennedy's murder as a member of the warring commission uh general ford then a congressman
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from michigan actually at the request of fbi director j edgar hoover took a pencil and changed
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the official diagram in kennedy's autopsy from his uh military doctor moving the depiction of the
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wound in his upper back to the back of his neck to accommodate the single bullet theory uh this is uh
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by the way you can find this in the new york times it was reported there ford was asked why he made this
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crucial change he said well the country needed finality it needed closure you notice he didn't
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say the country needed truth reagan was that rare thing you see in politics someone who was
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the same in private as he was in public there were not two ronald reagan's there was only one
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i can't say that of any of the presidents i have worked for they're all slightly different
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in public than they are in private trump would be closest in that regard in fact trump and reagan
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bear many similarities uh but reagan was affable easygoing genial optimistic uh he had boundless
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energy but he conserved his energy was very very careful about getting enough rest very careful about
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his diet he did not drink other than occasionally before a tv appearance he would have a small glass
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of red wine to bring a kind of a pink glow to his cheeks when he was asked at the end of his presidency
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by a reporter whether the fact that he hadn't come from the world of politics but had in fact come from
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the world of entertainment uh had been an actor uh before being elected governor uh and then being
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re-elected governor by almost a million votes before uh challenging carol ford in 1976 and then trouncing
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george h w bush for president in 1980 and reagan said you know actually i don't know how a guy
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guy who wasn't an actor could do this job when he said that what he meant was that people look to the
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president uh and uh they want to see confidence they want to see strength they want to see leadership
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trump uh pardon me reagan understood the american people looked to their president to see how things
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were going if the president looked worried if the president looked scared well that did not give the
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country a good feeling now without any question ronald reagan rebuilt our military strength he restored
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respect for america in the world uh in the early parts of the reagan administration they said the tax
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cuts were going to destroy the stock market that it was going to crash the national economy does this
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sound familiar folks uh but stay the course was uh the slogan and it should be the slogan yet today
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uh he also appointed scores of conservatives to the courts including the supreme court uh he was among
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our greatest presidents uh and it would be very hard for me to choose and of course then there is
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donald trump now donald trump who i have as i said earlier known for almost 50 years
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is uh he's a phenomenon he's unlike any other political figure i have ever worked for he's not
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a politician so don't call him one he's the head of a political movement but he will never be a
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politician uh he has boundless energy he i think sleeps maybe three or four hours a night uh he is an
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optimist but above all he is tough as nails he is the toughest person i've ever met i worked for richard
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nixon i worked for senator bob dole he was a great american would have been a great president but
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donald trump is tougher than both of them that is why those who think that he's going to fold on
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tariffs because heads of big companies are calling him and begging him to back off he will never back
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off he has the right formula by the way scott besant the secretary of treasury this guy may be the
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greatest secretary of the treasury since alexander hamilton when you watch him on the morning shows
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when you watch him in the media interviews he has a reassuring quality and a strength and a sureness
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about the president's plan that i think gives the american people uh great confidence uh howard
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lutnik the commerce secretary well not so much i say we need more besant and a little less lutnik
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but uh donald trump has to be in my top two i mean i'm a nixon man i love reagan but i love
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donald trump and of course without donald trump i wouldn't be with you today i'd either be dead or
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still locked up in a federal prison even though i did nothing whatsoever wrong you're listening to
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and you're back in the stone zone with yours truly roger stone i love this story in the new york post
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john catsman he's uh owner of the christides and d'agostino food chains as well as host of the cats
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and cosby show and the owner of 77 wabc radio in new york uh has told the socialist candidate for
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mayor zoran mamdani that he would let him use one of his grocery stores to test his socialist soviet
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style theory about uh essentially free food for the people as long as the city of new york agrees to
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pay the shortfall for shoplifting uh i love this story uh this is this is genius uh socialism doesn't
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work folks it hasn't worked in russia hasn't worked in china won't work here here is a question from
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annie in st louis missouri and he says is it true that richard nixon once trafficked marijuana well let
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me let me tell the story uh louis armstrong was tapped to be a u.n goodwill ambassador did a several
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tours of africa and asia uh with his trumpet uh was a granted ambassadorial status uh and therefore
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never had to go through customs when he was leaving the country or when he was coming into the country
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uh and on one particular occasion he was coming back into what was then idyllis airport now i believe it
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is a kennedy airport uh in new york city outside new york city uh and to his surprise instead of
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just being waved through customs as he had been previously he was put online to have his bags checked
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well the problem with that was satchmo was uh traveling with three pounds of the finest marijuana
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on earth because as many of the jazz musicians of the day uh satchmo was a it was a heavy marijuana
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smoker this is in all of the written biographies of him uh and uh satchmo began to sweat he could see
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the headlines uh u.s goodwill ambassador busted uh for mewling drugs uh at idylwild airport it was then
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that the doors swung open wide and vice president richard nixon walked in uh and he said satchmo what
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are you doing here and he said well pops and satchmo called everybody pops he said i was coming back
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from asia and uh i was putting this line uh to go through customs and the vice president said that's
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ridiculous you have ambassadorial status you don't need to stand in that line in fact let the vice
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president of the united states take your bags to the curb so you can be on your way and vice president
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richard nixon picked up satchmo's two suitcases one of them contained three pounds of probably the best
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marijuana on earth uh took him to the curbside uh and the jazz great louie armstrong was on his way
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little did richard nixon know that he was mewling drugs for one of the greatest jazz musicians that
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ever lived the great louie armstrong uh i heard this story from member of satchmo's band and i
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absolutely believe it to be true so there is the inside story as the one about the one time
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that richard nixon mule drugs you've been listening to the stone zone here on the red apple audio networks
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