The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 04-21-25

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:05.880 You are entering the Stone Zone.

00:00:08.620 I hope everyone had a great Easter holiday weekend.

00:00:12.560 We enjoyed the traditional Italian Easter pie, pizza gain, which is made with eggs, cheese, salami, and olives, marron.

00:00:22.100 It was unbelievable.

00:00:23.200 Here in the Stone Zone, we have reported extensively on the serial mortgage fraud that was committed by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

00:00:35.000 I've had both Sam Antar and Joel Gilbert, both who have documented extensive research.

00:00:42.820 There are several areas of misrepresentation.

00:00:46.280 In fact, the head of the Federal Home Finance Agency has sent a criminal referral to the U.S. Department of Justice.

00:00:56.180 Specifically, the Attorney General of New York, Letitia James, signed a power of attorney in the closing in August of 2023 regarding a Virginia property,

00:01:09.140 in which she said that she intended to be the occupant of that dwelling.

00:01:18.500 And the problem with that is twofold.

00:01:20.860 If it is accurate, well, then she would be constitutionally, under the New York law, ineligible to be the New York Attorney General.

00:01:29.540 And if she did not move, well, then she lied on the form.

00:01:34.100 This is just one of several examples.

00:01:36.820 In another instance, she misrepresented the number of units in an investment property to qualify for a mortgage.

00:01:44.340 She claimed it had four units, which would have qualified.

00:01:47.920 In fact, it had five.

00:01:49.660 Earlier, she had another mortgage in which she essentially used the balance sheet and financials of her father to qualify for the mortgage.

00:01:58.600 Claimed in the mortgage application that they were man and wife, but correctly records on the title that they were father and daughter.

00:02:09.260 Now, the New York Daily News has published a piece trying to dismiss this mounting legal and ethical morass

00:02:16.000 that is facing New York's attorney general, claiming them as, quote, flimsy claims of fraud and, quote, petty payback for the outrageous civil case that she waged against Donald Trump.

00:02:28.700 You remember that case.

00:02:30.040 That's where she claimed that he overvalued his assets in order to borrow money in commercial loans, which he completely paid back on time.

00:02:39.220 And the lenders made $40 million under a law, by the way, that no one has ever been prosecuted under.

00:02:46.360 This editorial by the New York Daily News, a newspaper that virtually no one reads,

00:02:53.380 a newspaper that used to be the paper of the working people of New York but lost its identity decades ago.

00:03:00.820 If you want elitist pap, you can get the New York Times.

00:03:04.120 And if you want the populist scoop, you can read the New York Post.

00:03:07.280 I'm not sure who's reading the New York Daily News, but their editorial mischaracterizes the documented evidence

00:03:13.960 and sidesteps all of the broader legal obligations that Attorney General James faces,

00:03:20.680 not as a political figure, but as a sworn public official subject to financial disclosure.

00:03:27.720 These include mortgage fraud and, of course, residency laws.

00:03:31.960 We really have to set the record straight.

00:03:34.300 The New York Daily News claims that James merely, quote, helped her niece buy, close quote, a Virginia home,

00:03:41.720 and that a, quote, purchase agreement, close quote, not the mortgage, listed it as her principal residence.

00:03:48.080 This framing is a flat-out lie.

00:03:51.500 The document was not a purchase agreement.

00:03:54.060 It was a specific paper of attorney signed by Attorney General Letitia James on August 17, 2023,

00:04:01.540 only weeks before Donald Trump's valuation trial in New York,

00:04:05.780 and it is recorded in the Virginia land records.

00:04:08.920 The language, which I will read to you, is unambiguous.

00:04:13.060 I hereby declare that I intend to occupy this property as my principal residence.

00:04:18.420 Those are her words, not standard boiler language.

00:04:24.120 Now, the Attorney General told the New York Times that she filed a separate application

00:04:28.900 that did not specify her intention to occupy the property

00:04:32.420 and that the mortgage did not require her to do so.

00:04:35.860 Those are both lies.

00:04:37.560 There is no such notarized application on the public record,

00:04:42.240 and the mortgage most definitely requires that she and her niece both inhabit the property. 0.98

00:04:51.400 Then, of course, there's the Brooklyn unit count discrepancy that I referred to earlier.

00:04:58.300 This is a two-decade pattern, not a, quote, unquote, corrected error.

00:05:03.300 The editorial from the New York Daily News suggests that James' misclassification

00:05:07.980 of her principal Brooklyn property was inherited from a previous owner.

00:05:13.420 This, of course, is demonstrably false for several key reasons.

00:05:17.080 First of all, the official Certificate of Occupancy,

00:05:20.380 issued on January 26, 20, 2001,

00:05:23.800 two weeks before she bought the property,

00:05:26.600 clearly identifies it as a five-family dwelling.

00:05:30.540 This Certificate of Occupancy was issued after proper Department of Buildings inspection

00:05:35.640 that specifically confirmed the five-unit status.

00:05:39.940 But James claimed that she had four units in order to qualify for the mortgage she received.

00:05:47.740 Third, the discrepancy reported to authorities was dismissed as a minor error by the Daily News,

00:05:54.980 a response that ordinary New Yorkers rarely receive for similar violations.

00:05:59.460 Well, it turns out that Letitia James is not the only public official.

00:06:06.520 There is a cornucopia of this going on.

00:06:09.460 Congressman Adam Schiff, you remember him.

00:06:12.100 He's the guy who said that he had seen more than circumstantial evidence

00:06:17.080 of collusion between Russian intelligence and Donald Trump's campaign for president

00:06:22.960 and produced none whatsoever.

00:06:25.700 However, Adam Schiff lies as easily as he breathes.

00:06:31.260 And he's added again.

00:06:32.820 Evidence now shows that the newly elected California Senator Adam Schiff

00:06:37.700 has committed election fraud, has voted ineligibly,

00:06:42.000 and has also guilty of mortgage fraud.

00:06:45.900 These are big-time crimes.

00:06:47.560 In April of 2023, an ethics complaint filed against U.S. Representative Adam Schiff

00:06:54.800 alleging that Schiff committed election fraud and voter fraud

00:06:58.440 by claiming he was both a citizen of California and Maryland at the same time.

00:07:04.680 Schiff reportedly purchased a home in Maryland with his wife in 2003,

00:07:09.400 stating that they would occupy this home for 12 consecutive months as their, quote,

00:07:14.640 primary residence.

00:07:15.960 Despite that, Schiff continued to vote in California.

00:07:20.780 Schiff may now also find himself referred to the Department of Justice

00:07:24.640 for the same type of mortgage fraud committed by New York Attorney General Letitia James. 0.63

00:07:31.100 Then Schiff refinanced his Maryland home in 2009, 2010, 2011, and again in 2013,

00:07:40.800 while claiming the Maryland home as his primary residence.

00:07:44.980 In 2009, when the House Ethics Commission investigation alleged that Schiff did this,

00:07:51.440 Schiff claimed it was an error and he repaid the exempt taxes to the state of Maryland.

00:07:58.200 The definition of mortgage fraud in Maryland includes, quote,

00:08:02.320 filing or causing to be filed in the land records in the county where a residential real property is located

00:08:08.400 any document relating to a mortgage loan that the person knows to contain a deliberate misstatement,

00:08:15.320 misrepresentation, or omission.

00:08:17.680 So, Congressman Adam Schiff, despite claiming to live and represent the people in the state

00:08:24.360 of California, filed and reaffirmed through his refinancing documents his primary residence.

00:08:31.740 I won't read the address because I'm not going to dox him, although you can certainly find it in public records.

00:08:38.280 Schiff, on the record, acknowledged of the mortgage document filings that his principal residence

00:08:44.400 was in Maryland during the House Ethics hearing.

00:08:47.640 Therefore, claims of mistake are completely fraudulent.

00:08:52.360 Schiff received better rates on his mortgage on the Maryland property by claiming it was his primary residence

00:08:58.460 as opposed to his secondary residence.

00:09:02.060 Former Baltimore prosecutor Marilyn Mosbley was recently convicted of mortgage fraud in Maryland,

00:09:08.720 and Schiff should be as well.

00:09:11.100 Schiff claims this property in Maryland really is his primary residence.

00:09:15.900 Well, then he's guilty of voter fraud and fraud under California's election code.

00:09:21.920 Schiff must have claimed that he was a resident of California in order to run for the U.S. House in California.

00:09:28.520 And in California, it says under the law,

00:09:31.320 Any person who files or submits for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy,

00:09:39.080 knowing that it or any part of it has been made falsely,

00:09:43.080 is punishable by a fine not to exceed $1,000 and or by imprisonment.

00:09:49.640 Therefore, Adam Schiff is a registered voter in California,

00:09:52.780 and therefore anyone not entitled to vote in an election fraudulently votes or fraudulently attempts to vote in that election

00:10:01.140 is subject to imprisonment pursuant to Section 1170 of the Penal Code for a term of 16 months to two years.

00:10:11.360 A number of California residents have been convicted of voter fraud over the past few years.

00:10:16.760 Well, in my opinion, Adam Schiff, watermelon head himself, should be next.

00:10:21.860 Remember, Adam Schiff lies just as easily as he breathes.

00:10:26.520 In December, he was insisting yet again on CNN

00:10:29.280 that his House Intelligence Committee had identified Russian collusion with Donald Trump's 2016 campaign.

00:10:36.720 High-level Trump campaign officials were passing information to Russian intelligence assets.

00:10:44.220 Schiff lied yet again.

00:10:45.740 The campaign official that Schiff was referring to is my old partner

00:10:50.440 and former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort.

00:10:53.340 And the alleged Russian intelligence asset is Konstantin Kalemnik.

00:10:59.440 There are actually two fundamental problems wrong with this phony narrative,

00:11:03.400 one that has been repeated not just by Schiff,

00:11:06.180 but also by de facto head of the Mueller witch hunt, Andrew Weissman.

00:11:12.460 We'll be talking about him with our next guest,

00:11:15.140 Jason Goodman of Crowdfund the Truth, in our next segment.

00:11:18.960 First, the substantial evidence is that not only is Kalemnik not a Russian intelligence agent,

00:11:25.780 but evidence shows that he was working extensively with U.S. intelligence.

00:11:30.880 Kalemnik actually worked for U.S. Senator John McCain prior to the 2016 presidential campaign.

00:11:37.240 Paul Manafort himself addressed this in his own book, Political Prisoners,

00:11:40.700 persecuted, prosecuted, but not silenced when he said,

00:11:43.940 my associate Konstantin Kalemnik was not only not a Russian agent, but he was a U.S. asset.

00:11:50.220 The independent journalist, Matt Taibbi, has also confirmed that Kalemnik was not a Russian asset.

00:11:57.880 There's another fundamental problem with this claim.

00:12:00.980 The truth is, the Trump campaign had no proprietary polling information at the time

00:12:07.960 that Manafort allegedly shared this information with Mr. Kalemnik.

00:12:13.260 Therefore, any information that Manafort gave to Kalemnik would have been public information.

00:12:19.760 As I say, independent journalist Matt Taibbi reported the FBI's own declassified reports

00:12:24.900 showed that Kalemnik met with the head of the Kiev embassy's political section at least bi-weekly

00:12:30.720 during the time he was working with Manafort and Yanukovych, the former president of Ukraine,

00:12:37.080 who was toppled in an illegal coup.

00:12:40.260 Yanukovych was, of course, elected in a Democrat election.

00:12:44.400 This is very typical of Adam Schiff.

00:12:48.320 Not that long ago, the inspector general for the Biden Justice Department

00:12:54.060 released a report that showed that both Schiff and his protégé, Congressman Eric Swalwell,

00:13:01.540 both leaked classified information regarding the Russian collusion investigation

00:13:06.960 to various media outlets.

00:13:09.760 So the question remains, why haven't Adam Schiff or Eric Swalwell been prosecuted?

00:13:16.980 Seems to me that we have a two-tier justice system,

00:13:20.440 and soon, hopefully, we will have a one-tier justice system. 0.76

00:13:24.060 Because now, the head of the Federal Home Finance Administration has referred Letitia James

00:13:29.700 to the Justice Department of Prosecution,

00:13:32.500 and hopefully, the head of that agency will be referring Adam Schiff to the same agency.

00:13:38.800 Coming up, I'm going to have our guest, Jason Goodman,

00:13:42.100 lay out for you how Congressman Jamie Raskin,

00:13:45.100 also engaged in mortgage fraud,

00:13:48.020 as well as Andrew Weissman himself,

00:13:51.360 perhaps the most corrupt federal prosecutor in U.S. history.

00:13:54.760 It's all coming up here in The Stone Zone.

00:13:57.260 So whatever you do, don't touch that dial,

00:14:00.000 because we'll be back with the stone-cold truth

00:14:02.580 about all of these crooked politicians.

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00:14:50.840 Pope Francis died on Easter Monday, April 21st, 2025,

00:14:55.260 at the age of 88 at his residence in the Vatican's Casa Santa Marta.

00:15:00.980 He died one day after meeting Vice President J.D. Vance.

00:15:05.520 The process to choose a new pope is called a conclave.

00:15:10.040 After a pope dies or resigns from office,

00:15:12.360 a group of the highest-ranking non-papal officials within the Catholic Church,

00:15:17.140 the cardinals, gather in Rome.

00:15:19.460 Cardinals over the age of 80 are excluded from the process,

00:15:23.780 stemming from a Pope Paul VI edict made in 1970.

00:15:29.700 This means some of the most conservative cardinals will not be allowed to vote.

00:15:34.860 It makes it much more difficult for a more traditional successor to Francis to be chosen.

00:15:40.940 In fact, of the current College of Cardinals,

00:15:43.900 80% of them were chosen by Francis,

00:15:46.680 who at a minimum would be considered, shall we say,

00:15:49.540 a far more progressive pope than perhaps I would prefer.

00:15:54.380 Now, these electors, and there's a cap of 120 of them,

00:15:57.800 though that number can slightly differ depending on the circumstances,

00:16:01.440 they meet in the Sistine Chapel, the pope's official residence in Vatican City,

00:16:06.320 and they're essentially locked in.

00:16:08.440 In other words, that's where the term conclave comes from.

00:16:11.740 It's Latin for with a key,

00:16:15.100 similar to a sequestered jury during a high-profile case.

00:16:18.840 The idea is to shield them from undue influence

00:16:21.680 and protect the integrity of the process.

00:16:25.800 The cardinals cast ballots up to four times a day,

00:16:28.540 two in the morning, two in the afternoon.

00:16:30.060 Each writes the name of their chosen candidate on a slip of paper,

00:16:34.120 folds it, and places it in a chalice on the altar.

00:16:37.540 The ballots are counted by three scrutineers,

00:16:40.160 and to win a candidate needs two-thirds majority of the votes.

00:16:44.080 If no one gets that majority after a round,

00:16:46.760 the ballots are burned with a chemical that turns the smoke black.

00:16:50.920 That's the visible smoke you see emitting from the top of the Vatican.

00:16:55.620 This process repeats itself until there is a victor,

00:16:58.760 at which point the smoke turns white,

00:17:00.900 thanks to a different chemical mix,

00:17:02.880 and the crowd knows that a new pope has been chosen.

00:17:06.140 That is when Habemus Papum, Latin for,

00:17:09.680 we have a pope, is shouted from the balcony.

00:17:13.060 I think we are all praying for the selection of a pope

00:17:16.420 who is a godly man who will stand up for freedom

00:17:19.240 and guide his church in the decades ahead.

00:17:22.960 Coming up next, Jason Goodman,

00:17:25.120 the independent investigative journalist

00:17:27.300 behind Crowdsourcing the Truth,

00:17:29.860 is going to blow the whistle on former prosecutor Andrew Weissman

00:17:34.220 and Congressman Jamie Raskin.

00:17:38.460 More mortgage fraud coming right up here in The Stone Zone.

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00:18:24.920 Welcome back.

00:18:26.080 You're in The Stone Zone.

00:18:27.520 Joining me now is investigative journalist Jason Goodman.

00:18:31.720 Jason Goodman is the founder of Crowdsourcing the Truth,

00:18:35.560 and he has determined that what we see going on

00:18:39.240 with New York Attorney General Letitia James,

00:18:42.360 the serial mortgage fraud, at least.

00:18:45.260 This is before we get into the question of her cover-up 0.74

00:18:48.240 of sexual assault by her chief of staff.

00:18:51.000 I'll be writing about that very shortly,

00:18:54.460 as well as what I think is epic campaign finance fraud.

00:18:58.820 But the media has been focused on the referral

00:19:02.640 by the Federal Home Finance Administration

00:19:05.620 to the Justice Department of Letitia James

00:19:09.320 for serial mortgage fraud.

00:19:11.340 But Jason, she's not the only one, is she?

00:19:15.320 No, she's not, Roger.

00:19:17.560 So let's touch on Adam Schiff.

00:19:20.480 I spoke about this a little bit in the beginning,

00:19:22.440 but then you had some groundbreaking information

00:19:24.900 on both former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissman,

00:19:29.280 as well as a congressman, Jamie Raskin,

00:19:32.240 two other virulent critics of President Donald Trump.

00:19:36.280 Let's start with Adam Schiff.

00:19:38.520 Yeah.

00:19:39.580 Well, Adam Schiff, of course, everybody knows,

00:19:42.460 is one of the most visible enemies of Donald Trump.

00:19:46.600 I'm surprised that a lot of people in the mainstream

00:19:48.680 haven't really heard of Andrew Weissman,

00:19:51.300 even though he was the lead prosecutor

00:19:53.380 in the Mueller investigation.

00:19:55.640 And, you know, he's one of these guys

00:19:57.400 who's been kind of out of the limelight

00:20:00.220 for most of his career.

00:20:01.620 Anybody who does know him

00:20:02.920 pretty much knows him from seeing him on MSNBC.

00:20:06.840 And then he becomes like a character on a TV show,

00:20:09.620 depending on what he says

00:20:10.780 and how you think he appears on television,

00:20:12.860 you like him or dislike him.

00:20:14.340 But Adam Schiff, everybody knows.

00:20:16.220 President Trump has called him

00:20:17.340 watermelon head and pencil neck.

00:20:19.580 I like it when Trump does stuff like that

00:20:21.980 because it's a mechanism that he's using

00:20:24.920 to embarrass Adam Schiff,

00:20:27.140 who deserves to be embarrassed.

00:20:29.600 But there's a lot of details to what he's done, Roger,

00:20:31.820 and I'm happy to share them with you and your audience.

00:20:34.660 Well, we touched a little bit on it.

00:20:36.800 It has to do with his Maryland home.

00:20:38.480 Let's touch on that.

00:20:39.360 But I want to leave enough time

00:20:40.480 to talk about these other two reprobates.

00:20:43.040 So run us through Adam Schiff and his residence.

00:20:45.920 Yeah, I mean, to summarize it in the simplest way

00:20:50.900 for lay people and people who haven't studied

00:20:53.540 the information to understand,

00:20:55.140 because it is very dense.

00:20:56.900 Adam Schiff, obviously everybody knows

00:20:59.740 that he's a representative from California.

00:21:02.340 So he purchased a home in Maryland

00:21:05.480 that I guess would be his second home.

00:21:09.260 But a lot of people,

00:21:10.460 particularly those who have had mortgages,

00:21:11.880 a lot of people know

00:21:12.780 that you get a much favorable rate on your mortgage

00:21:15.800 if the loan is on your primary residence.

00:21:18.900 And this is based on, I guess, actuaries have figured out

00:21:21.680 that when you live in the house,

00:21:23.500 you take care of it.

00:21:24.380 And it's just much more statistically likely

00:21:27.540 for a loan to be repaid on somebody's primary residence

00:21:30.420 than a secondary residence

00:21:31.580 that they might abandon or whatever.

00:21:34.000 So the thing that is so important

00:21:35.800 about what Adam Schiff has done, Roger,

00:21:38.060 is that we almost don't even need

00:21:40.420 any more investigation or any trial.

00:21:42.780 because he's incriminated himself.

00:21:44.800 He's basically taken out a loan

00:21:46.940 for this property in Maryland.

00:21:48.960 And he has signed the loan,

00:21:51.420 sworn under penalty,

00:21:53.100 that he will occupy the home

00:21:55.280 and that it will be his primary residence

00:21:57.640 within 60 days of executing this agreement,

00:22:01.000 which is a 20-something year old agreement

00:22:03.580 that he was lying about for 17 years,

00:22:07.260 repeatedly making this false statement.

00:22:09.960 Now, remember, you were talking about Letitia James.

00:22:13.060 She's all up in arms that somebody 1.00

00:22:15.320 who works for Donald Trump,

00:22:16.760 not even Donald Trump, Michael Cohen,

00:22:18.940 made payments and got involved

00:22:20.900 in how these things were recorded

00:22:22.900 as legal payments or whatever.

00:22:24.780 There's a strong argument to be made

00:22:26.280 that they were legitimate legal payments.

00:22:27.940 He was paying a settlement in a lawsuit.

00:22:31.000 You do that through your lawyer.

00:22:32.720 It's different than going to the strip show

00:22:34.980 and giving Stormy Daniels money.

00:22:37.080 You're settling a lawsuit.

00:22:38.260 But I digress.

00:22:39.880 Adam Schiff, and he should know better

00:22:42.560 because he is also an attorney,

00:22:44.760 and that's critical, Roger.

00:22:46.100 That's why this is the lawfare loan scam.

00:22:49.960 So far, all the participants I've identified

00:22:53.120 are themselves attorneys.

00:22:55.840 And this is important for a number of reasons.

00:22:58.160 First of all, they are making all of these filings

00:23:01.800 and, you know, including legal language.

00:23:04.020 It's very unusual at times.

00:23:06.280 That seems to be done by them.

00:23:08.640 There's no third-party attorney signing in the fields

00:23:12.140 where normally, you know, if you or I were to close on a home,

00:23:15.560 we'd probably hire a real estate attorney.

00:23:18.020 I can only surmise that these lawfare criminals 0.97

00:23:22.340 didn't want to do that because, obviously,

00:23:24.640 it's much easier for two people to keep a secret

00:23:27.400 if one of them are dead

00:23:28.580 or if the other person never knew about it.

00:23:31.060 So I think they don't want to involve

00:23:32.580 potentially legitimate attorneys in these transactions

00:23:35.260 because it could be a stop to the flow of funds.

00:23:39.880 But the thing that Adam Schiff did

00:23:41.140 that I just don't see how he gets out of,

00:23:43.420 he put himself into a legal double bind

00:23:46.140 because if he was being honest in his sworn statements

00:23:49.620 that he signed on the Maryland mortgage,

00:23:52.640 that that was his primary residence,

00:23:54.460 well, then he's committed fraud

00:23:55.600 in representing that he could run

00:23:57.260 to be a congressional representative from California.

00:24:01.500 And if he was being honest in his statements

00:24:03.480 about running for Congress in California,

00:24:05.740 then he's committed mortgage fraud.

00:24:07.720 So I think he's in a lot of trouble.

00:24:10.680 Yeah, it's almost identical

00:24:11.920 to what Letitia James has done.

00:24:15.120 She's tried to lie her way out of it, 0.63

00:24:17.000 but I don't think that's going to work.

00:24:18.420 All right, let's get into Andrew Weissman

00:24:20.280 because you really broke this story.

00:24:22.960 Mr. Weissman bought an extremely expensive,

00:24:25.720 I guess, condominium in Manhattan,

00:24:29.400 but it was under very shady circumstances.

00:24:32.460 Lay this on us.

00:24:34.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:35.260 Well, it's unclear if he bought it

00:24:37.040 or if it was like a Christmas gift,

00:24:39.060 excuse me, a Hanukkah gift,

00:24:40.340 because Weissman, he actually lives

00:24:44.660 in sort of near the NYU area,

00:24:48.880 the northern tip of the West Village,

00:24:51.720 and he's a professor, everyone knows, at NYU Law.

00:24:54.940 That's where I first confronted him

00:24:56.680 about his relationship with Felix Sater,

00:24:59.760 which is going to come up later in this investigation.

00:25:02.560 Felix Sater, many people know,

00:25:05.120 is a very longstanding FBI confidential human informant

00:25:09.080 signed an agreement with Weissman in 1998,

00:25:13.740 and Sater has testified under oath

00:25:16.020 that he's done all kinds of things.

00:25:18.080 This guy's basically the Russian James Bond,

00:25:20.360 but I digress.

00:25:21.220 Back to Weissman.

00:25:23.100 So Weissman purchased two condominiums

00:25:26.460 valued at $7.5 million

00:25:28.600 in the Tribeca neighborhood of New York,

00:25:31.180 very exclusive neighborhood.

00:25:32.800 He bought them from this guy named Leonard Tobaroff,

00:25:35.640 Tobaroff, and the interesting thing about Tobaroff is

00:25:38.620 he was business partner with Jeffrey Epstein in the 1980s,

00:25:42.920 and a lot of people who,

00:25:44.500 and believe me, I'm not pooh-poohing being skeptical.

00:25:47.320 You should be.

00:25:48.240 Let's take everything skeptically.

00:25:50.200 But this guy wasn't just someone

00:25:51.680 who happened to be doing business at Bear Stearns

00:25:53.960 and didn't know anything about Epstein.

00:25:56.100 Tobaroff was involved in the Tower financial scandal,

00:26:00.080 which was, people might recall,

00:26:02.960 Stephen Hoffenberg,

00:26:04.400 who was involved with the New York Post.

00:26:06.700 Hoffenberg later was convicted

00:26:09.860 and admitted to being involved

00:26:13.540 in a $460 million Ponzi scheme,

00:26:16.460 and Epstein had lied about the source of the funds

00:26:19.240 for an investment that Tobaroff, Epstein,

00:26:22.160 and a guy named Niederlander

00:26:23.360 made in a company in 1988 called Riddell Sports.

00:26:27.840 So $1.6 million of that investment

00:26:31.260 came from stolen funds.

00:26:34.280 And so, you know, this is,

00:26:35.820 this is, Tobaroff is involved in this deal,

00:26:38.300 and he just doesn't care.

00:26:39.340 So, you know, it's a little bit inexplicable

00:26:41.620 why Tobaroff would do that.

00:26:43.640 Then he had already been involved

00:26:45.760 with this thing called Penwalt Corp,

00:26:48.300 some sort of takeover bid.

00:26:50.480 And again, I mean, these are details

00:26:52.060 that people are going to know a lot more about than I did.

00:26:54.400 I just was researching this for background

00:26:56.280 into this Tobaroff.

00:26:57.240 And these are all things that Charles Ortel

00:26:59.360 has told me about over the years.

00:27:01.300 Charles knows great details

00:27:03.540 about each of these scandals.

00:27:05.300 But the point is,

00:27:06.160 this is not just some random guy.

00:27:08.620 This is a criminal associate,

00:27:10.780 excuse me,

00:27:11.600 an alleged criminal associate,

00:27:13.660 I should also say.

00:27:14.660 Everything that I'm saying is my opinion.

00:27:16.640 And Roger Stone and ABC Radio

00:27:18.900 don't necessarily endorse this.

00:27:21.200 I am not an attorney.

00:27:23.360 Nothing I'm saying here is legal advice.

00:27:25.120 This is my opinion and information

00:27:27.380 that I have gathered

00:27:28.240 from looking at public documents.

00:27:30.660 Anyone can get these documents.

00:27:32.000 I don't have any access

00:27:32.960 to anything secret or whatever.

00:27:34.720 That's a very, very key point.

00:27:37.660 I've invited Attorney General

00:27:39.320 Teacher James onto the show here

00:27:41.080 at the Stone Zone at any time

00:27:42.840 to respond to all of these allegations.

00:27:45.720 And that is an open invitation.

00:27:48.800 I don't expect that she will accept it,

00:27:50.660 but I would be happy to have her out.

00:27:53.060 Yeah.

00:27:53.900 Well, okay, so back to Weissman.

00:27:55.860 Flash forward to April 2023.

00:27:59.560 Okay.

00:28:00.040 Now, this is the guy who was the head

00:28:01.840 of the DOJ's Enron Task Force.

00:28:04.880 He was the lead prosecutor

00:28:06.460 on Mueller's impeachment of Trump.

00:28:09.520 Let's just focus on Weissman for a second,

00:28:11.320 because this is not,

00:28:12.080 I mean, if I told you,

00:28:13.000 I bought an apartment

00:28:14.100 and then I found out the guy

00:28:15.220 was associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:28:17.080 I'm a dummy who was running 3D cameras

00:28:19.140 for Spider-Man for many years.

00:28:20.860 I don't know who all the high-end

00:28:23.280 financial criminals in New York City are,

00:28:25.340 but Andrew Weissman was in charge

00:28:29.120 of the Organized Crime Division

00:28:31.220 of the Eastern District

00:28:32.300 of New York U.S. Attorney's Office

00:28:33.940 for many years.

00:28:34.980 In fact, deranged Jack Smith

00:28:37.960 came up under Weissman

00:28:40.220 in the Eastern District

00:28:41.920 of Eastern District of New York

00:28:44.380 U.S. Attorney's Office.

00:28:45.980 Burl Howell came out of there.

00:28:48.580 Loretta Lynch came out of there.

00:28:50.520 It's a viper's pit.

00:28:52.760 But anyway, Weissman,

00:28:55.080 he buys this $7.5 million,

00:28:58.460 they're adjoined apartments,

00:29:00.380 two separate apartments,

00:29:01.620 and I'm told it's unusual.

00:29:03.080 I've never been involved

00:29:03.900 in a deal like this,

00:29:04.800 $7.5 million, two apartments.

00:29:06.760 I'm told it's unusual

00:29:07.860 for two separate real estate entities

00:29:11.580 to be on one mortgage,

00:29:13.520 but that's how this was done.

00:29:15.460 What I found weird is

00:29:16.700 you're buying something

00:29:17.440 for $7.5 million,

00:29:19.060 but the mortgage is only

00:29:20.160 for a million.

00:29:21.020 I mean, that seems crazy.

00:29:23.280 Don't you usually have,

00:29:25.140 like, maybe 20%

00:29:26.420 and they give you the rest of it?

00:29:27.860 This seems too low to me,

00:29:30.560 but the other thing is

00:29:32.260 there's no record

00:29:35.540 of where the other $6.5 million came from.

00:29:38.560 Weissman gets this sort of

00:29:40.360 fugazi $1 million mortgage

00:29:42.240 from First Republic Bank

00:29:43.600 five days before it goes

00:29:47.440 into FDIC receivership.

00:29:49.400 So it's impossible to presume

00:29:51.040 that the bank didn't know

00:29:52.700 that that was imminent

00:29:53.500 or that the DOJ

00:29:55.660 and, you know,

00:29:56.980 the Treasury Department,

00:29:58.080 people knew

00:29:58.740 that that was happening

00:29:59.840 and it just seems weird to me

00:30:01.420 that a bank

00:30:02.340 in such financial distress

00:30:04.140 would be giving out

00:30:05.100 a million-dollar loan

00:30:06.080 to anybody,

00:30:07.280 let alone one 0.98

00:30:08.380 with such ridiculous terms, 0.97

00:30:10.500 you know, 0.79

00:30:10.800 average mortgage rate

00:30:12.380 in 2023

00:30:13.600 at that time in April

00:30:14.920 was like

00:30:15.480 six and a half

00:30:16.920 to seven and a half percent.

00:30:19.620 Weissman,

00:30:20.380 it's a 30-year jumbo arm.

00:30:22.780 It's an adjustable rate mortgage

00:30:24.240 that starts at 4.95%,

00:30:27.060 but it can go up as high

00:30:29.140 as I think 10%

00:30:30.340 or possibly even higher.

00:30:32.160 The thing that's crazy

00:30:33.280 is five days later

00:30:34.640 when First Republic

00:30:36.700 goes into FDIC receivership

00:30:39.100 and $15.6 billion

00:30:41.140 of, you know,

00:30:43.360 insurance magic happens,

00:30:45.660 but don't worry, Roger,

00:30:46.900 they didn't use

00:30:47.980 any taxpayer money.

00:30:50.840 You didn't pay for it,

00:30:51.920 but you probably did pay $9 for eggs

00:30:54.240 because the dollar

00:30:55.060 is worth about half as much

00:30:56.360 as it should

00:30:56.760 because they keep printing

00:30:57.660 more of them,

00:30:58.520 but don't worry,

00:30:59.360 don't worry,

00:31:00.280 it's all fine.

00:31:01.540 Andrew Weissman

00:31:02.320 got his apartment.

00:31:04.020 So we don't know

00:31:04.920 where the $6.5 million

00:31:06.180 came from.

00:31:07.180 That's quite crazy.

00:31:09.020 He seems to have foreknowledge

00:31:11.020 that the bank

00:31:11.500 was going to collapse,

00:31:12.840 and so when the bank

00:31:14.440 collapses

00:31:14.920 and the FDIC

00:31:15.720 takes it over,

00:31:17.040 receivership,

00:31:17.700 whatever they do,

00:31:18.420 it gets taken over

00:31:20.400 by J.P. Morgan,

00:31:22.040 and Weissman,

00:31:23.500 because of this

00:31:24.420 wonderful arrangement,

00:31:26.500 he locks in

00:31:27.420 his 4.95% rate

00:31:30.760 for 10 years.

00:31:32.780 So he's getting

00:31:33.280 an amazing deal

00:31:34.040 on the mortgage,

00:31:35.400 but, you know,

00:31:36.060 Roger, it's interesting

00:31:36.820 because I started

00:31:38.040 this investigation

00:31:38.840 maybe about five days ago,

00:31:40.580 and some of this stuff

00:31:41.640 has been kicking around

00:31:42.520 and a lot of people

00:31:43.140 have been sending me ideas,

00:31:44.140 and something occurred to me.

00:31:45.140 You know,

00:31:46.900 it does kind of

00:31:48.120 make you upset

00:31:49.220 to hear about

00:31:49.960 these connected guys

00:31:51.060 getting good deals

00:31:51.980 on mortgages,

00:31:52.920 and we're talking

00:31:53.500 about $7.5 million

00:31:54.680 this and this and that,

00:31:56.300 but specifically with,

00:31:57.540 let's say,

00:31:58.360 Jamie Raskin

00:31:59.300 and Adam Schiff.

00:32:00.300 Let's just look at that

00:32:01.160 specifically for a moment.

00:32:02.840 Jason,

00:32:03.120 we're going to have

00:32:03.540 to come back

00:32:04.100 and do that

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00:32:45.380 We're talking to

00:32:46.260 investigative journalist

00:32:47.420 Jason Goodman

00:32:48.360 about the sweetheart deal

00:32:50.220 that was gotten

00:32:50.860 by former federal prosecutor

00:32:52.820 Andrew Weissman.

00:32:53.920 You remember him.

00:32:54.720 He's the guy

00:32:55.240 who covered up

00:32:56.500 mob murders

00:32:57.360 in Brooklyn,

00:32:58.140 the guy who brought down

00:33:00.560 both Enron

00:33:01.400 and Arthur Anderson

00:33:02.460 only to have

00:33:03.300 his convictions

00:33:04.300 in those cases

00:33:05.240 unanimously overturned

00:33:07.060 by the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:33:08.640 The Andrew Weissman

00:33:09.500 who destroyed

00:33:10.320 the cell phone memories

00:33:12.220 of all of the

00:33:13.020 Mueller prosecutors

00:33:13.920 when they were

00:33:14.940 under subpoena

00:33:16.100 from Special Prosecutor

00:33:18.220 John Durham.

00:33:19.700 That Andrew Weissman,

00:33:20.800 you may have seen him

00:33:21.440 at MSNBC.

00:33:23.060 By the way,

00:33:23.480 he is the guy

00:33:24.100 who ordered the FBI

00:33:25.260 to store my home

00:33:26.480 at 6 o'clock

00:33:27.360 in the morning

00:33:27.880 when they simply

00:33:29.680 could have contacted

00:33:30.520 my attorney

00:33:31.220 and told me

00:33:32.600 to turn myself in.

00:33:33.840 We know that

00:33:34.500 because I was arrested

00:33:35.700 at 6.06

00:33:36.520 and at 6.11

00:33:37.640 a producer at CNN

00:33:39.520 texted a copy

00:33:40.640 of my sealed indictment

00:33:42.880 to my attorney

00:33:44.220 and while it had

00:33:45.140 no court stampings

00:33:46.520 or other court markings

00:33:47.920 on it,

00:33:48.680 if you looked at

00:33:49.260 the metadata tags,

00:33:50.460 it did have the initials

00:33:51.440 of the man who wrote it

00:33:52.360 and therefore the man

00:33:53.500 who leaked it

00:33:54.180 in violation of federal law,

00:33:55.780 that would be

00:33:56.440 Andrew Weissman.

00:33:58.100 But I want to wrap up

00:34:00.220 with Weissman

00:34:00.780 and get into

00:34:01.800 Congressman Jerry,

00:34:02.940 Jamie Raskin.

00:34:05.220 This guy is a real

00:34:06.260 piece of work

00:34:06.900 and that story

00:34:07.980 is even more outrageous.

00:34:09.640 So, Jason,

00:34:10.540 lay it on us.

00:34:12.320 Well, so, exactly.

00:34:13.700 I mean, with Weissman,

00:34:14.520 okay, he's got this

00:34:15.540 $7.5 million asset.

00:34:17.480 We've been through that

00:34:18.520 and that's one method here.

00:34:21.400 Obviously,

00:34:21.920 if somebody could gift you

00:34:22.960 a $7.5 million apartment

00:34:24.520 in New York City,

00:34:25.140 you're looking at

00:34:25.820 maybe $25,000 a month

00:34:27.820 in income or more.

00:34:29.600 But when we look

00:34:30.380 specifically at the case

00:34:31.560 of Raskin

00:34:32.320 and the similarities

00:34:33.540 to what Adam Schiff

00:34:34.780 was doing,

00:34:35.620 it really raises

00:34:36.440 questions, Roger,

00:34:37.500 because there we have

00:34:39.640 those guys did,

00:34:41.140 well, Raskin did,

00:34:43.440 satisfy some of a mortgage.

00:34:45.100 His goes back

00:34:46.380 to a house

00:34:46.920 that he had in the 90s,

00:34:48.420 which is very interesting.

00:34:49.480 And he's doing a lot

00:34:50.120 of refinancing of it.

00:34:52.360 At one point,

00:34:53.180 he even gets

00:34:54.200 into a $0 deed

00:34:56.000 where he's transferring

00:34:58.300 the property

00:34:59.220 from himself

00:35:01.500 and his wife

00:35:02.300 to himself

00:35:04.460 and his wife.

00:35:05.440 I don't understand

00:35:06.500 why he's doing that.

00:35:07.640 I mean, again,

00:35:08.000 these are complex

00:35:09.600 criminal mechanisms

00:35:10.820 and I'm not a lawyer

00:35:11.820 and I'm not a criminal,

00:35:12.700 so I can't say

00:35:14.060 why they're doing it.

00:35:15.120 I'm just in a mode

00:35:15.900 where I'm going through

00:35:16.800 and I'm gathering

00:35:18.020 the evidence.

00:35:19.380 And the thing

00:35:19.760 that strikes me

00:35:20.340 as weird

00:35:20.840 just as an initial matter

00:35:22.240 because I started

00:35:23.840 to break this down,

00:35:24.920 you know,

00:35:25.080 using artificial intelligence,

00:35:26.360 I can do a lot

00:35:27.240 of analysis

00:35:27.840 of this data

00:35:28.540 that I would never

00:35:29.200 be able to do myself.

00:35:30.860 And it turns out

00:35:31.620 that in the case

00:35:32.640 of Adam Schiff

00:35:33.260 and Jamie Raskin,

00:35:34.360 I found sort of

00:35:35.660 the similarities

00:35:36.340 in what they were doing

00:35:37.420 and it turns out

00:35:38.800 that between the two of them,

00:35:40.040 they were saving

00:35:40.820 between $150

00:35:42.060 and $200 a month

00:35:43.580 on their mortgages.

00:35:45.540 And it just

00:35:45.960 strikes me as odd

00:35:47.460 that someone

00:35:49.220 as sophisticated,

00:35:50.180 these guys

00:35:50.460 are both attorneys,

00:35:52.000 they're both in Congress,

00:35:53.260 they have very public lives,

00:35:54.700 why would they risk

00:35:56.140 their reputations,

00:35:57.720 going to jail, 0.88

00:35:58.940 losing their bar licenses

00:36:00.420 over such small

00:36:02.680 beer crimes?

00:36:03.960 There's no way.

00:36:05.400 To me, Roger,

00:36:06.440 this has got to be

00:36:07.820 an initiation right

00:36:09.520 into a criminal network

00:36:10.940 that's involved

00:36:11.660 with crimes so vast

00:36:14.040 that the theft

00:36:15.140 of multiple millions

00:36:16.140 of dollars

00:36:16.760 is they just don't even

00:36:18.920 have the bandwidth

00:36:19.520 to think about.

00:36:20.920 So that's what I'm

00:36:22.740 interested in learning

00:36:23.920 is why did these guys

00:36:25.360 do this?

00:36:25.920 It doesn't make sense

00:36:27.020 on its face.

00:36:28.140 I think the answer,

00:36:29.080 we have about a minute

00:36:30.140 and a half to go here,

00:36:30.940 but I think the answer is

00:36:31.800 they did it

00:36:32.760 because they can.

00:36:34.740 They did it

00:36:35.220 because we have,

00:36:36.580 until Donald Trump's

00:36:37.700 re-election,

00:36:38.280 a two-tiered

00:36:39.420 justice system

00:36:40.220 in which Donald Trump

00:36:41.600 has put through

00:36:42.660 horrific trials

00:36:43.600 on trumped-up, 0.99

00:36:44.960 ridiculous charges 0.92

00:36:45.940 in New York. 0.99

00:36:47.480 But criminals

00:36:48.720 like Adam Schiff,

00:36:50.040 like Letitia James, 0.81

00:36:51.320 like Jamie Raskin

00:36:52.640 get sweetheart deals

00:36:53.860 that the average person

00:36:55.760 could never get.

00:36:57.340 They violate multiple laws,

00:36:59.200 but they are never

00:36:59.860 held to account.

00:37:01.520 I'm afraid we have

00:37:02.080 to leave it there.

00:37:03.100 I want to thank our guest,

00:37:04.340 Jason Goodman.

00:37:05.380 Jason,

00:37:05.720 where can people find you

00:37:06.840 on X,

00:37:07.920 formerly known as Twitter?

00:37:09.820 Yes,

00:37:10.260 the best way to follow me

00:37:11.300 there is

00:37:11.760 at JG,

00:37:13.140 like Jason Goodman,

00:37:14.860 underscore CSTT,

00:37:17.200 like crowdsource the truth.

00:37:19.020 JG underscore CSTT on X.

00:37:21.960 Thank you, Roger,

00:37:22.580 so much for having me on.

00:37:24.180 Thank you so much

00:37:25.220 for helping compress

00:37:26.340 so much complicated information

00:37:28.020 into a short period of time.

00:37:30.320 But it is a perfect example

00:37:32.180 of what's been going on

00:37:33.420 in Washington

00:37:33.960 and why it is absolutely essential

00:37:36.140 that we drain the swamp.

00:37:38.860 Jason,

00:37:39.180 thanks for joining us

00:37:40.160 and for all our listeners.

00:37:42.260 Until we meet again,

00:37:43.280 God bless you

00:37:43.980 and Godspeed

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