The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone ｜ 04-29-25


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Roger Stone and Stockwell day break down the results of the Canadian election, including the victory for the Liberal Party and the loss for the Conservative Party of Canada. They also discuss the impact of President Trump's comments about Canada being the 51st state and whether that s a good or bad thing.

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00:00:30.000 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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00:00:48.300 It's the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.320 Here's Roger Stone.
00:00:53.320 Welcome.
00:00:54.340 You are entering the Stone Zone.
00:00:56.540 And I'm Roger Stone.
00:00:58.060 Well, the Canadian federal election has been called for Liberal leader Mark Carty, who will be re-elected as Prime Minister of Canada, securing another term for the Liberal Party after their campaign against Conservative leader Pierre Covert.
00:01:13.760 It's not clear whether the Liberals will form a minority or a majority government.
00:01:18.840 The election comes at a critical moment for Canada, with voters weighing issues such as a stagnant economy, out-of-control immigration, and national security.
00:01:29.500 Carty's victory bringing the Liberals back from the dead.
00:01:32.020 And I expect we will see the continuation of Liberal policies.
00:01:36.480 Here to help us analyze and break it down, Stockwell Day joins me.
00:01:42.380 He has been on the forefront of public policy development at the federal, provincial, and municipal levels of government in Canada.
00:01:49.080 He has served as a member of the Alberta legislature, a member of the parliament, a high-profile provincial and federal cabinet minister, and Canada's leader of Her Majesty's official opposition.
00:02:05.520 Stockwell, welcome on this very sad day.
00:02:09.320 Good to be with you, Roger, and your listeners.
00:02:11.180 So, the Conservatives had a strong lead in early polling.
00:02:17.520 A lot of that had to do with the deep unpopularity of Justin Trudeau.
00:02:22.420 This comes as a little bit of a surprise to some.
00:02:26.660 How do you think, how did this happen?
00:02:28.820 Well, it's a great question, and it's been a whirlwind of polling and ups and downs.
00:02:33.760 Up until about two or three months ago, Justin Trudeau, as prime minister, was declining in popularity,
00:02:41.560 mainly because of the very effective opposition leading of Pierre Polyev, who was leader of the opposition at the time.
00:02:49.060 And everybody was assuming that this was going to be, even up to a couple months ago, a big majority conservative win.
00:02:57.540 Unfortunately, Polyev was so effective as opposition leader that Trudeau kept going down on the polls to the place where his party basically punted him out.
00:03:10.920 They brought in a new person who is known internationally, an international banker.
00:03:17.700 And with the combination of that and the tariff wars and also President Trump seeing Canada as a 51st state,
00:03:29.760 that threw panic mode into everybody, including the national media.
00:03:35.400 And national media ran stories for a couple of months suggesting that Mr. Carney would be a better fit as prime minister to fight the tariffs
00:03:45.020 than Pierre Polyev, which was wrong in my estimation.
00:03:48.660 But that caused the polls to radically turn around.
00:03:52.500 Actually, up until about a week ago, all the polls were then saying it was going to be a liberal majority.
00:03:58.640 But Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives started clawing their way back, but not enough to stop the liberals getting what we call a minority government.
00:04:07.300 I mean, this election went so poorly for the Conservatives that the Canadian Conservative Party leader, Pierre Polyev, lost his own seat in Monday's elections.
00:04:17.160 He received only 46.1% of the vote for his own seat, was defeated by liberal Bruce Van Joy, who won with 50.6% of the vote.
00:04:27.520 I actually thought he was an excellent candidate, an excellent communicator.
00:04:31.020 You may recall last time you were with us, we played that great audio of him answering questions while chomping on an apple from a smart-ass reporter.
00:04:40.780 I was very surprised at this turn of events.
00:04:45.280 Do you think that President Trump's trolling of Pierre Trudeau, talking about Canada being the 51st state,
00:04:55.820 which was always a joke, and talking about Trudeau being governor of Canada, which was also always a joke,
00:05:03.700 do you think that was detrimental to the Conservatives?
00:05:06.920 It was probably, it's a great question, it was probably the single most detrimental hit,
00:05:12.100 because Canadians, quite rightly, are quite sensitive about being seen as a 51st state.
00:05:17.740 We've always been a key ally of the U.S., and ally being our closest friend as far as miles go.
00:05:26.640 And to be suddenly caricatured as a 51st state, most Canadians found that offensive.
00:05:36.120 And they saw in Mr. Carney the ability, because he sort of sold the message that because he'd been a globalist banker,
00:05:43.860 and head of the Bank of Canada at one point, head of the Bank of England at another point,
00:05:49.140 that he would be better suited.
00:05:52.080 That's obviously not a view that a lot of people share.
00:05:55.660 But yeah, that portraying Canada as a 51st state became a rally cry for the Liberals.
00:06:06.320 Now, Pierre Polia was also very much against that thought also.
00:06:09.900 But mainstream media, which generally tracks to the left, saw an opportunity here to get behind Mr. Carney,
00:06:18.160 and that's what happened.
00:06:19.600 I also think that the kind of censorship that we had here prior to the 2020 election,
00:06:28.240 and that has changed dramatically between 20 and 24,
00:06:32.440 largely because Elon Musk purchased Twitter, renaming it X,
00:06:39.960 and ultimately you had more of a balance, not completely,
00:06:45.800 because Facebook and Instagram are still very, very heavily censored.
00:06:51.460 But I think you have a much greater degree of censorship,
00:06:54.900 both of the mainstream media, but also virtually no alternative media.
00:07:00.420 Other than rebel media, hard for me to name a center-right alternative outlet in the entire country.
00:07:07.200 Yeah, that's true.
00:07:07.980 Those have been ascending.
00:07:10.140 I don't like to use the word alternate media, but let's say free and independent media.
00:07:15.640 There's the Western Standard.
00:07:17.380 There's Juno News.
00:07:19.760 There are some upcoming ones.
00:07:21.320 Interestingly, some of the previous reporters from those particular news organizations
00:07:26.520 actually wound up getting elected this time as members of Parliament.
00:07:31.100 But there is a little different type of censorship in Canada.
00:07:36.320 If you speak out of the collective narrative,
00:07:40.240 your chance of being even cancelled in terms of things you're involved in
00:07:46.540 or portrayed as somebody who's way off to the right somewhere,
00:07:51.420 that occurs in a different way in Canada.
00:07:56.160 But it's very clear.
00:07:58.100 It's very pronounced.
00:07:58.960 And I do think now, I mean, one of the election items was,
00:08:03.000 would the CBC, that's the Canada Broadcasting Corporation,
00:08:06.820 continue to receive hundreds of millions of dollars, of taxpayer dollars?
00:08:11.540 That wasn't very much at stake.
00:08:14.120 And so there's a strong feeling that CBC, of course,
00:08:16.580 and other so-called mainstream media,
00:08:19.540 if the Conservatives won,
00:08:21.580 that those mainstream media would lose those valuable taxpayer dollars.
00:08:27.380 And so the media definitely had a stake in this particular election.
00:08:31.640 And to many of us, that was obvious in how they did their reporting,
00:08:35.460 which always presented a somewhat soft picture of Mr. Carney
00:08:40.140 and a somewhat harsh picture of Mr. Poliev.
00:08:43.140 Interesting that Mr. Carney did not seem to suffer from his very public relationship
00:08:48.160 with Ghislaine Maxwell, who sits right now in a federal prison,
00:08:53.520 having served essentially as the pimp for Jeffrey Epstein.
00:08:57.040 Also interesting to me that many Americans do not understand
00:09:03.780 how much more authoritarian society in Canada is compared to the United States.
00:09:10.940 An effort, for example, if you own a firearm,
00:09:13.860 the government wants you to register its existence with the government.
00:09:17.740 Why could they possibly want to know that?
00:09:19.960 And then many of my friends who took part in the convoy,
00:09:23.740 the truck convoy, to protest the demands of the government
00:09:27.340 that they take the COVID-19 vaccination found their bank accounts frozen.
00:09:32.600 Some of them were charged in what I think were politically motivated prosecutions.
00:09:39.880 Justin Trudeau was moving very swiftly in an authoritarian direction, no?
00:09:45.900 Well, that's correct.
00:09:46.920 Canada's history, the DNA of Canada,
00:09:49.620 is one that is much more, what should we say, accepting,
00:09:55.860 going back 150 years or more, of the crown, the king, the queen from England.
00:10:03.000 And there's a large group, a large influence in Canada
00:10:05.600 called the United Empire Loyalists,
00:10:07.500 that when the opportunity, they were living among the colonies at the time,
00:10:11.120 when the opportunity came to take on the king and fight the king,
00:10:14.800 as happened in the colonies, hundreds, if not thousands and thousands,
00:10:20.920 moved to the north, to what became Canada.
00:10:24.060 So there is that strong DNA within Canadian thinking and culture
00:10:28.900 that is much more deferential to authority.
00:10:32.820 We can argue whether that's good or bad,
00:10:34.740 and not quite as offended about things like higher taxation.
00:10:38.640 My own family roots go deep,
00:10:40.900 and though my ancestors were part of the original colonies,
00:10:45.200 my mother's side of the family moved north.
00:10:47.940 She was one of the United Empire Loyalists.
00:10:50.380 My father's side of the family stayed in the U.S.
00:10:53.160 to fight the king, to fight authoritarian control,
00:10:56.360 and to fight high taxation.
00:10:58.500 So I myself, you know, I'm a product of that,
00:11:01.880 by partisan nature, you could say,
00:11:05.140 or binary nature of Canada.
00:11:06.700 And when you have a media, mainstream media,
00:11:09.600 which is, again, more deferential to certain elements of authority,
00:11:15.700 then that gets exacerbated at times like this,
00:11:19.220 and you'll see that side of Canadian character
00:11:22.200 kind of rising to the fore a little more than the revolutionary side.
00:11:26.820 All right, we're going to leave it there.
00:11:28.280 I want to thank our guest, Stockwell Day,
00:11:31.620 a distinguished public servant in his home country of Canada.
00:11:37.780 Actually served as the, not only in Alberta's cabinet,
00:11:42.060 but also held a series of senior roles,
00:11:45.560 including Chief Whip, Government House Leader,
00:11:48.180 Minister of Labor, and Minister of Social Services.
00:11:51.340 I thank you very much for joining us today
00:11:53.700 with this excellent analysis of the Canadian elections.
00:11:57.040 We are disappointed, but Canada will survive.
00:12:01.800 Thank you, Roger. Good to be with you.
00:12:04.600 Meanwhile, folks, Scott Besson,
00:12:07.080 who I think could be the single greatest Secretary of the Treasury
00:12:12.420 since Alexander Hamilton had a terrific press conference yesterday.
00:12:16.400 Let's listen to Scott Besson.
00:12:17.820 The goal here is to bring back
00:12:20.280 the high-quality industrial jobs to the U.S.
00:12:24.700 President Trump is interested in the jobs of the future,
00:12:28.340 not the jobs of the past.
00:12:30.220 We don't need to necessarily have a booming textile industry
00:12:35.000 like where I grew up again,
00:12:36.360 but we do want to have precision manufacturing
00:12:39.400 and bring that back.
00:12:41.140 And another important, very important function of this
00:12:44.640 that does not get talked about enough
00:12:46.640 is national security.
00:12:47.940 President Trump, his overriding concern and belief
00:12:55.500 is that economic security is national security,
00:12:58.500 national security is economic security,
00:13:00.920 and we saw during COVID that our supply chains got cut off,
00:13:05.580 and we need to bring back a lot of those supply chains,
00:13:09.280 whether it's in semiconductors, medicines, the steel,
00:13:13.080 and we have to onshore those.
00:13:16.300 So it's a combination of making trade free and fair
00:13:20.000 and remedying this gaping national security hole
00:13:23.800 that he was left with.
00:13:24.940 Folks, if you're just tuning in,
00:13:26.820 this is The Stone Zone.
00:13:28.540 We were listening to Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besson,
00:13:31.680 I think among the president's very best appointees,
00:13:34.760 and we'll be right back.
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00:14:34.660 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said today
00:14:37.700 that the onus is on China to bring down its tariffs
00:14:41.140 as he outlined how many jobs the world's second largest economy
00:14:45.280 stands to lose in a trade war.
00:14:47.740 If the U.S. keeps tariffs in place at the current level of 145%,
00:14:53.180 China could lose up to 10 million jobs very quickly,
00:14:57.940 Besson said during a press conference at the White House,
00:15:00.720 citing outside statistics.
00:15:03.260 Even if the U.S. were to lower tariffs somewhat,
00:15:07.680 China still stands to lose almost 5 million jobs, Besson said.
00:15:13.040 So remember that we are the deficit country.
00:15:16.700 They sell almost five times more goods to us than we sell to them.
00:15:21.640 So the onus is on them to take off these tariffs
00:15:25.420 because for them, they are unsustainable.
00:15:29.500 Besson said the White House's goal is a combination of imposing
00:15:32.420 long-term tariffs and making deals with the essential trade partners,
00:15:37.300 allowing the tax revenue levy to work as an income tax relief.
00:15:43.080 President Trump, in the meantime, says that he believes
00:15:48.340 that there is a peace deal coming with Iran.
00:15:51.280 This past Sunday, the president announced that he believes
00:15:53.800 a peace deal with Iran will be reached soon.
00:15:56.800 On the Iranian situation, I think we're doing very well,
00:16:00.200 said the president.
00:16:01.580 I think a deal is going to be made there.
00:16:03.700 It's going to happen.
00:16:04.800 Pretty soon, it's going to happen.
00:16:06.360 We have something going on without starting to drop bombs all over the place.
00:16:11.180 One thing Donald Trump does know is that you don't negotiate in public,
00:16:15.960 particularly this sensitive.
00:16:17.980 The U.S. and Iran concluded on Saturday,
00:16:20.900 the third round of nuclear talks,
00:16:22.820 and agreed to meet again on May 3rd.
00:16:25.820 U.S. President Donald Trump's special envoy,
00:16:29.380 Steve Whitcoff, has been leading the nuclear deal negotiations with Iran in Oman.
00:16:35.100 The Gulf nation, which is acting as a mediator during these negotiations.
00:16:40.300 On Saturday, the parties broached the technical details of a possible nuclear deal
00:16:45.700 for the first time, especially the limitations the U.S. wants to impose
00:16:51.120 on Iran's nuclear program and the sanctions Iran wants the United States to lift.
00:16:58.660 The talks in Oman were positive and productive,
00:17:02.000 according to one senior U.S. official.
00:17:04.460 There is still much to do, but further progress was made on getting to a deal.
00:17:10.520 Donald Trump ran as the peace candidate, and I believe he will deliver peace.
00:17:16.320 I was also deeply disturbed by the news that Virginia Giffray,
00:17:20.760 who was one of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein,
00:17:25.180 one of those who refused to settle between the time that Epstein was charged in Florida with sex crimes
00:17:34.780 and the time years later when he was charged federally,
00:17:38.660 had committed suicide, or at least reportedly.
00:17:42.880 Interestingly, I interviewed Giffray extensively for my book,
00:17:47.900 The Clinton's War on Women.
00:17:49.580 I have almost 12 hours of audio tape, and I read every single word of her sworn testimony.
00:17:57.740 What's interesting to me as I go back and look at those records and listen to the tapes
00:18:03.640 is that Virginia Giffray was the single most damning witness when it came to Bill Clinton.
00:18:11.860 She specifically testified that she saw Clinton chatting up two 16-year-olds
00:18:18.320 when she, Giffray, was led from the room, this was on Epstein's island,
00:18:25.240 in order to have sex with Epstein.
00:18:27.300 So she couldn't say definitively that Bill Clinton had sex with the two 16-year-olds,
00:18:33.440 but on the other hand, it's Bill Clinton that we're talking about.
00:18:37.620 I, for one, having met the woman and having seen the incredible fight that she put on for the truth,
00:18:45.240 refuse to believe that she was a victim of suicide.
00:18:49.960 Interestingly enough, she was hit by a bus only weeks ago.
00:18:54.300 So I'm not buying the official narrative.
00:18:57.220 I'm Roger Stone. You're tuned into The Stone Zone.
00:18:59.580 Whatever you do, please don't touch that dial.
00:19:01.920 I'm not just stepping stone.
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00:19:20.820 It's The Stone Zone.
00:19:22.840 Here's Roger Stone.
00:19:26.040 And you're back in The Stone Zone, and I'm your host, Roger Stone.
00:19:30.960 A Wisconsin judge is threatening not to hold court in protest of federal authorities
00:19:37.440 arresting her fellow judge, Hannah Dugan, last week.
00:19:41.960 It's amazing how many on the left have tried to say that Dugan was arrested
00:19:47.160 because the Trump administration disagreed with one of her rulings.
00:19:51.520 False.
00:19:52.100 Judge Dugan was arrested because she tried to assist an illegal immigrant from escaping to the courtroom 1.00
00:20:01.940 without being arrested by ICE for deportation.
00:20:07.440 But now, Judge Monica Isham made the announcement in an email to judges across the state of Wisconsin.
00:20:13.820 Her email, titled, Guidance Requested for I Refuse to Hold Court,
00:20:19.780 made clear that she had no intention of working with the Immigrations and Custom Enforcement,
00:20:26.120 also known as ICE, run by my good friend Tom, who is Tom Homan is one tough customer.
00:20:35.280 Believe me.
00:20:35.700 If there is no guidance for us and no support for us,
00:20:39.140 I will refuse to hold court in Branch 2 of Sawyer County.
00:20:43.220 I will not put myself or my staff, who feel compelled to help me or my community, in harm's way.
00:20:49.400 Isham, the liberal judge, wrote,
00:20:51.200 According to a copy of this email, which was retained by Wisconsin Right Now News,
00:20:57.120 I have no intention of allowing anyone to be taken out of my courtroom by ICE
00:21:00.900 and sent to a concentration camp, especially without due process,
00:21:06.260 as both of the constitutions we swore to support require.
00:21:10.720 Should I start raising bail money?
00:21:13.880 I'd say the judge is being a bit mellow dramatic.
00:21:16.940 Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmeet Dillon reacted to Judge Isham's ultimatum on social media,
00:21:24.100 saying the threat was problematic.
00:21:27.140 Judge Dugan was arrested and charged with obstruction of an official proceeding on Friday,
00:21:32.380 as I say, after evidence came to light that she had shielded the migrant from the ICE agents,
00:21:39.240 according to a criminal complaint.
00:21:40.800 She was also charged with concealing an individual to prevent discovery and arrest.
00:21:49.160 Federal agents attempted to arrest the illegal alien,
00:21:52.180 Eduardo Flores Ruiz,
00:21:54.720 following his criminal court appearance before Dugan on April 18th
00:21:58.840 to face three battery charges for beating two people.
00:22:02.680 It's amazing how the left has continued to insist that the president has no authority to deport these illegals, 0.71
00:22:11.160 when, of course, he has every authority to do that.
00:22:14.560 Michigan Democrat Sri Thanedar has filed articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.
00:22:21.360 This guy is kind of the Indian Al Green.
00:22:24.780 You remember him.
00:22:25.460 Al Green was the congressman from Texas
00:22:27.460 who filed articles of impeachment against Donald Trump
00:22:31.220 within hours of him being sworn into his first term.
00:22:36.200 There's zero chance that impeachment will pass the House,
00:22:41.160 but the Democrats do this, I think, to lay down a marker.
00:22:46.640 It is amazing that they never quite give up in this enormous psyop.
00:22:52.460 So it's interesting to me that now, suddenly,
00:22:56.000 the very same polls,
00:22:57.920 specifically the New York Times, among others,
00:23:00.240 the very same polls that said that Kamala Harris was going to defeat Donald Trump
00:23:06.080 are now showing the president is unpopular with the American people.
00:23:11.980 Pardon me if I don't believe it.
00:23:14.440 Here's the thing about polls.
00:23:16.380 Anyone can rig a poll who understands them.
00:23:19.960 You do it several different ways.
00:23:22.120 One way is by having bias in the way the questions are worded.
00:23:27.040 Another way to do it is by the order of the questions.
00:23:32.380 A third way to do it, of course, is having an inaccurate sample size.
00:23:37.220 That seems to be the case in the two leading polls
00:23:40.320 that show Trump's disapproval rating rising.
00:23:43.560 According to the New York Times,
00:23:45.300 only 37 percent of the people in their polling sample voted for Donald Trump.
00:23:50.680 So there you have the absolute proof that these polls are part of a psyop.
00:23:59.440 We saw this before the run up to the 2024 election,
00:24:03.140 where the polls didn't match the results at all.
00:24:07.200 It was funny at the White House correspondence dinner
00:24:11.200 to see the the collection of, quote unquote, reporters.
00:24:18.200 The funniest joke, I thought, was the fact that Axios journalist Alex Thompson,
00:24:25.000 who suggested that the media didn't report on Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline
00:24:30.440 because his handlers had covered it up, was celebrated.
00:24:35.040 Thompson claimed that Biden's declined and its cover up by the people around him
00:24:39.300 is a reminder that every White House, regardless of party, is capable of deception.
00:24:45.280 But being truth tellers also means telling the truth about ourselves.
00:24:49.400 We, myself included, Thompson said, missed a lot of the story.
00:24:55.300 And some people trust us less because of it.
00:24:57.980 Talk about understatement.
00:25:00.160 Here you had the entire White House press corps
00:25:02.440 who insisted virtually to a man and a woman
00:25:05.600 that Joe Biden was sharp as a tack behind closed doors.
00:25:10.960 Remember that one?
00:25:11.900 That's what they're saying about Pope Francis right now.
00:25:14.000 Anyone with eyes and ears could see Biden's mental decline.
00:25:18.740 But now the media is trying to rewrite history, something they're great at,
00:25:23.060 by pretending that they hadn't actively covered it up.
00:25:26.640 It's truly remarkable.
00:25:28.440 Thompson said,
00:25:29.680 We bear some responsibility for faith in the media being at such lows.
00:25:34.280 I say this because acknowledging errors builds trust
00:25:37.400 and being defensive about it further erodes it.
00:25:40.500 We should have done better.
00:25:41.760 Now, no, Thompson was being given an award by his colleagues
00:25:46.680 because he actually reported that Joe Biden was in a steep cognitive decline,
00:25:54.160 something all of them knew, but virtually none of them wrote.
00:25:58.880 Yes, Thompson now says he regrets that he and the rest of the establishment media
00:26:03.480 have lost the credibility they needed in order to trick the American people
00:26:07.420 into believing their lies.
00:26:08.640 It's too late now for Thompson and the establishment media.
00:26:12.820 They are forever branded by our president as fake news.
00:26:18.300 The University of Zurich has admitted to using AI bots
00:26:22.560 to secretly manipulate users of the liberal website Reddit since November of 2024.
00:26:30.700 Reddit is yet another one of those social media platforms
00:26:34.980 where I have been banned since 2017.
00:26:37.820 I once had 980,000 followers on Twitter.
00:26:44.200 I had about 158,000 on Instagram.
00:26:48.900 I had about 85,000 on YouTube.
00:26:52.960 And then on one day,
00:26:56.320 with each of those companies insisting they never spoke to each other,
00:26:59.600 I was banned without reason.
00:27:01.460 By the way, they don't even send you an email or a text message to tell you
00:27:05.880 why you have banned or that you have banned.
00:27:09.180 You just wake up one day and your page is gone.
00:27:15.600 Anybody who thinks that the problem of censorship is behind us
00:27:19.980 is really not paying attention.
00:27:21.800 Yes, there is no question that Elon Musk has made enormous strides towards solving the problem.
00:27:29.640 And although it is not perfect,
00:27:31.740 X, which used to be known as Twitter,
00:27:34.560 is still the leading free speech site in the country.
00:27:39.480 I had the great honor of meeting Elon Musk about a week ago at Mar-a-Lago,
00:27:44.700 and I told him that I thought he was probably the most important figure
00:27:49.140 in the history of the First Amendment and free speech in this country.
00:27:53.880 I have to admit that when I was admitted back onto Twitter,
00:28:01.020 I just went online and I filled out a form seeking reinstatement.
00:28:05.960 I figured that I would never hear anything,
00:28:08.140 and that would be the end of it since, well, I'm still banned on Facebook,
00:28:12.140 still banned on Instagram.
00:28:14.640 To my surprise and delight,
00:28:17.240 the company reviewed my form and I was restored.
00:28:20.260 But instead of 980,000 followers,
00:28:24.020 now I had about 25,000.
00:28:27.380 I have slowly built that back up to somewhere around 830,000.
00:28:34.080 You can follow me, by the way, on X at RogerJStoneJr,
00:28:38.880 RogerJStoneJR.
00:28:41.400 The other problem, of course, is there's a bunch of Roger Stones on Twitter
00:28:46.040 who are not me.
00:28:47.520 They use the same avatar,
00:28:51.640 they use the same artwork,
00:28:53.480 but they list themselves, for example,
00:28:55.980 as Roger ZStoneJr.
00:28:59.680 It's a constant fight.
00:29:01.300 I constantly have to report them
00:29:03.340 and ask that they be removed.
00:29:05.440 And as soon as they are,
00:29:06.780 a new one drops back up.
00:29:08.960 The problem is even worse on Facebook.
00:29:11.900 On Facebook, where I have no profile at all,
00:29:14.720 there are at least five Roger Stones,
00:29:17.700 and they're doing a very healthy business
00:29:20.520 in cryptocurrency and other products.
00:29:23.520 I was in a restaurant about a month ago.
00:29:25.940 A guy came up to me and said,
00:29:27.100 Hey, Stone, where is that cryptocurrency,
00:29:29.960 that Bitcoin I bought from you?
00:29:32.440 I had no idea what the guy was talking about.
00:29:34.620 I don't sell cryptocurrency,
00:29:35.920 and I don't sell Bitcoin.
00:29:39.340 But it's amazing how many Roger Stones there are on Facebook.
00:29:43.720 I go to my lawyer.
00:29:45.400 My lawyer registers a complaint.
00:29:48.060 We hear nothing.
00:29:49.540 Then after a long period of time
00:29:51.460 and several follow-up letters,
00:29:53.400 they remove these profiles,
00:29:55.960 and then they literally pop up a few days later
00:29:59.860 with slight deviations.
00:30:02.580 It is a gigantic problem.
00:30:05.820 And the scariest part we see here
00:30:09.120 in this University of Zurich study
00:30:11.060 is that the bots they used
00:30:14.080 were six times more likely to change minds
00:30:16.920 of those Redditors than the baseline,
00:30:20.700 often leveraging misinformation.
00:30:22.640 I see this every day
00:30:25.060 where there are individuals,
00:30:28.280 presumably bots,
00:30:29.860 who continue to repeat things
00:30:31.840 on X that aren't true.
00:30:33.680 Let me give you an example.
00:30:35.540 Oh, Roger Stone was seen on Epstein's Island.
00:30:39.120 He was wearing a bow mask,
00:30:41.380 and we knew it was him.
00:30:42.500 We could tell from his Nixon tattoo
00:30:44.980 because he wasn't wearing a shirt.
00:30:47.100 Now, no one ever puts their name on that claim
00:30:49.660 because they knew that I would sue them
00:30:52.820 in a New York second.
00:30:54.740 I actually am the first, second author
00:30:57.840 in the country to expose Jeffrey Epstein,
00:31:00.940 going back to my book,
00:31:02.240 The Clinton's War on Women,
00:31:03.560 back in 2015.
00:31:05.940 I acknowledge the work of Nick Bryant,
00:31:08.380 who was really the first investigative journalist
00:31:11.300 in the country to expose Epstein,
00:31:13.440 but I expanded on that substantially.
00:31:16.800 That book is still in publication.
00:31:18.720 That book probably got me indicted, actually.
00:31:21.580 It's a compendium of the crimes
00:31:23.600 of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
00:31:26.120 But the longest chapter in the book
00:31:28.460 makes many references to the information
00:31:32.500 given to me by Virginia Jaffray,
00:31:35.120 the woman who I reported earlier
00:31:37.280 has reportedly died by suicide.
00:31:41.660 Once again, she was hit by a bus
00:31:43.800 only weeks ago,
00:31:45.180 and she actually left a message
00:31:47.160 in which she said,
00:31:48.060 I am not in any way suicidal.
00:31:51.300 I'm paraphrasing.
00:31:53.160 If you hear that I have committed suicide,
00:31:56.380 be skeptical.
00:31:57.780 There's very little doubt in my mind
00:32:01.640 that the Epstein victims
00:32:04.280 who have refused to settle,
00:32:06.520 because when they settled,
00:32:07.760 they signed non-disclosure agreements,
00:32:10.920 are being bumped off.
00:32:12.440 Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna of Florida
00:32:17.440 actually said on X,
00:32:20.680 I guess it was the day before yesterday,
00:32:23.260 two Epstein victims are now dead.
00:32:25.720 Every day the DOJ delays releasing
00:32:28.360 the Epstein client list,
00:32:30.460 public trust erodes,
00:32:31.880 and more lives are put at risk.
00:32:33.720 I'm calling on the DOJ and AG Pambandi
00:32:37.880 to act immediately to release the files.
00:32:41.660 The American people deserve to know the truth.
00:32:45.220 Could not agree more.
00:32:47.120 She also said,
00:32:48.960 in a separate posting,
00:32:51.260 on February 11th and February 19th,
00:32:54.040 House Oversight sent a letter to the DOJ
00:32:57.360 asking for the status of the release
00:33:00.340 of the Epstein files,
00:33:01.760 as well as additional information on JFK.
00:33:05.560 To date, the DOJ has not responded,
00:33:09.500 reaching out now here on X
00:33:11.660 because we can't seem to get a response
00:33:13.560 from the Attorney General.
00:33:16.500 I do think that Anna Paulina Luna,
00:33:19.520 congresswoman from Florida,
00:33:21.020 has done an excellent job
00:33:22.640 in heading the committee,
00:33:25.100 looking into the release of the documents
00:33:28.240 pertaining to the murder
00:33:29.820 of President John F. Kennedy
00:33:31.160 and the murder of Senator Robert Kennedy.
00:33:34.780 But Congressman Luna knows what I know,
00:33:38.260 which is to say,
00:33:39.100 those documents are completely
00:33:40.780 and totally incomplete.
00:33:43.020 There are videos, audios,
00:33:45.740 and documents
00:33:47.340 that the Assassination Records Review Board
00:33:50.900 looked at in the 90s
00:33:52.760 when they investigated
00:33:53.780 the Kennedy assassination
00:33:55.500 that have not popped up
00:33:57.780 in this release.
00:33:59.680 The House Select Committee
00:34:01.340 on Assassinations told us
00:34:02.920 that their investigation
00:34:04.560 concluded that organized crime
00:34:06.500 was deeply involved
00:34:08.140 in the Kennedy assassination,
00:34:10.020 yet we have not seen
00:34:11.160 a single document
00:34:13.280 pertaining to that.
00:34:15.060 I hope the President
00:34:16.360 will go back
00:34:17.420 and broaden his order for release.
00:34:20.520 And while he's at it,
00:34:22.060 I have urged President Trump,
00:34:24.220 both in writing
00:34:24.980 and in person,
00:34:26.380 to declassify
00:34:27.380 all of the documents
00:34:28.820 pertaining to
00:34:30.120 the attempted assassination
00:34:31.700 of President Ronald Reagan
00:34:33.660 and ultimately
00:34:34.960 to declassify
00:34:36.060 all the documents
00:34:37.120 pertaining to
00:34:38.340 the two attempts
00:34:39.880 on President Trump's
00:34:41.340 own life.
00:34:42.320 I'm Roger Stone,
00:34:43.560 and you're listening
00:34:44.280 to The Stone Zone.
00:34:45.340 I'm not just stepping stone.
00:34:59.560 This is The Stone Zone.
00:35:02.060 Now, get in the zone. 0.94
00:35:03.980 It's The Stone Zone.
00:35:06.000 Here's Roger Stone.
00:35:07.560 And we're back
00:35:10.580 in The Stone Zone.
00:35:12.820 A controversy
00:35:13.540 continues to rage
00:35:15.380 over the mortgage records
00:35:17.740 of New York Attorney General
00:35:19.360 Letitia James.
00:35:21.020 I have interviewed
00:35:22.060 both Sam Antar,
00:35:24.040 a very interesting character.
00:35:25.420 Sam Antar went to prison
00:35:27.360 in one of the largest
00:35:28.500 security frauds
00:35:29.960 in American history,
00:35:31.880 played his debt to society,
00:35:34.300 did some serious jail time,
00:35:36.340 but when he came out,
00:35:37.700 he turned his life around
00:35:38.800 using his forensic skills
00:35:40.940 and his knowledge
00:35:42.520 to help governments
00:35:44.100 and law firms
00:35:45.300 ferret out corruption
00:35:47.480 and fraud.
00:35:48.660 His website,
00:35:50.040 whitecollarfraud.com,
00:35:52.320 has documented,
00:35:53.800 using the actual
00:35:55.260 filed documents
00:35:56.480 of Letitia James,
00:35:58.640 a daisy chain of fraud
00:36:01.320 that goes back
00:36:02.260 almost 40 years.
00:36:04.160 The documentary filmmaker
00:36:05.480 and author,
00:36:06.720 Joel Gilbert,
00:36:07.620 has done the same
00:36:09.000 in a series
00:36:09.780 at the Gateway Pundit.
00:36:12.160 But it was interesting
00:36:13.940 to see Errol Lewis
00:36:16.140 of New York One.
00:36:17.960 He shouts out
00:36:19.080 to Sam Antar saying,
00:36:21.480 Sam,
00:36:22.660 what Donald Trump wanted
00:36:24.080 was a headline
00:36:24.900 saying that
00:36:26.080 the New York Attorney General
00:36:27.400 is accused of fraud
00:36:28.420 and you helped
00:36:29.600 make that happen.
00:36:31.020 The facts are not
00:36:31.960 terribly interesting
00:36:33.180 in my opinion.
00:36:34.420 and we'll let
00:36:35.980 the Justice Department
00:36:36.980 see how this works out,
00:36:39.200 see what they find.
00:36:40.740 The last politician
00:36:41.720 that Errol Lewis assured
00:36:43.460 us had done nothing wrong
00:36:44.580 was Eliot Spitzer.
00:36:46.400 This is a very serious issue
00:36:49.220 and there is more to come.
00:36:51.360 As Sam Antar reported yesterday,
00:36:54.840 in 2022,
00:36:56.480 a female employee
00:36:58.140 of the Attorney General's office
00:37:00.360 filed a sexual harassment complaint
00:37:03.220 against the Attorney General's
00:37:06.020 Chief of Staff.
00:37:06.960 More recently,
00:37:08.180 the appeals court
00:37:10.300 let that case go forward
00:37:12.780 but it dismissed
00:37:14.480 the charges
00:37:15.920 against Letitia James,
00:37:17.720 the Attorney General.
00:37:18.960 The lawyer representing
00:37:20.620 the state employee,
00:37:22.420 Sofia Quintara,
00:37:24.420 tells me that
00:37:25.040 that will be appealed.
00:37:26.940 This is going to be
00:37:27.400 a very interesting case
00:37:29.220 and we're going to
00:37:30.140 be following it.
00:37:31.100 I also continue to say
00:37:34.060 that when you examine
00:37:35.640 the multi-million dollar fraud
00:37:38.100 perpetrated by ActBlue,
00:37:41.100 which is the Democrat
00:37:42.400 payment processing app
00:37:45.340 that is being used
00:37:46.520 to launder millions
00:37:48.420 and millions
00:37:49.080 and millions of dollars
00:37:50.440 into the campaigns
00:37:51.720 of Democrats,
00:37:53.040 well, the campaign
00:37:54.100 of Letitia James
00:37:55.340 is one of the greatest offenders.
00:37:58.840 This is very clever.
00:37:59.760 People can give
00:38:01.040 by credit card
00:38:02.000 but they turn off
00:38:03.740 the function
00:38:04.460 which checks the address
00:38:06.720 against the card.
00:38:08.400 Interestingly enough,
00:38:09.800 in most cases,
00:38:11.600 the donors
00:38:12.360 or alleged donors
00:38:14.080 give a very large number
00:38:17.240 of small and medium-sized
00:38:19.460 contributions
00:38:20.160 as opposed to
00:38:21.380 one large contribution.
00:38:22.920 When you go locate
00:38:24.460 these so-called donors
00:38:26.000 on their front doorstep,
00:38:27.720 you show them
00:38:28.740 a spreadsheet
00:38:29.340 of their donations,
00:38:31.120 in this case
00:38:31.720 to Letitia James,
00:38:33.300 seven out of ten
00:38:34.420 who are willing
00:38:35.000 to be interviewed
00:38:35.820 say they made
00:38:37.160 no such contribution.
00:38:39.700 Nineteen state
00:38:40.800 attorney generals
00:38:41.740 have opened
00:38:42.400 an investigation
00:38:43.060 into ActBlue
00:38:44.900 and I think
00:38:45.920 ActBlue
00:38:46.700 will yet be
00:38:48.180 the New York
00:38:48.860 attorney general's
00:38:50.020 next headache.
00:38:51.500 We'll be following
00:38:52.340 this story
00:38:53.660 very closely.
00:38:54.840 I reiterate,
00:38:56.180 however,
00:38:57.000 that Attorney General
00:38:58.400 James has an open
00:38:59.780 invitation to come
00:39:00.800 on the Stone Zone
00:39:01.640 anytime
00:39:02.440 and confront
00:39:03.480 these charges
00:39:04.920 against her.
00:39:06.000 She wants to come 0.83
00:39:06.580 on with Sam Antar.
00:39:07.780 Well, that would be
00:39:08.760 extremely entertaining.
00:39:10.860 I guess I won't
00:39:11.740 hold my breath.
00:39:13.180 I want to thank you
00:39:13.880 for joining us today
00:39:14.900 in the Stone Zone.
00:39:16.060 We cover news,
00:39:17.760 politics,
00:39:18.660 history,
00:39:19.340 sports,
00:39:19.740 style.
00:39:20.960 I've got to get
00:39:21.620 more of my
00:39:22.180 mother's recipes
00:39:23.120 in there.
00:39:24.000 I'm a little lax
00:39:24.660 on that.
00:39:25.180 I'm starting to get
00:39:25.620 complaints about it.
00:39:27.020 But we try to do it
00:39:28.940 on a bipartisan basis.
00:39:30.840 I criticize Republicans
00:39:31.920 and Democrats
00:39:33.740 in any event.
00:39:35.300 Until tomorrow
00:39:36.420 when we meet again,
00:39:37.800 God bless you
00:39:38.660 and Godspeed
00:39:39.580 and thanks for
00:39:40.600 following us here
00:39:41.460 in the Stone Zone.