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00:00:37.760 Welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:00:40.600 You know, back in the 1970s, there was a very famous Esquire magazine article by a famous writer entitled,

00:00:47.480 Frank Sinatra had a cold.

00:00:50.040 It's when Old Blue Eyes, the chairman of the board, gave an interview, despite the fact that he had a little cold.

00:00:55.600 Well, I've got a little cold, and I'm recovering from it.

00:00:58.100 So if you hear a cough tonight, just recognize the show must go on.

00:01:02.940 You know, in foreign policy, timing, leverage, and national interest must guide the strategy of engagement with rising powers.

00:01:10.540 President Richard Nixon grasped this principle as well as any chief executive during his groundbreaking 1972 opening to China.

00:01:18.760 President Bill Clinton, on the other hand, failed his test when he championed China's entry into the World Trade Organization and the permanent normal trade relations.

00:01:28.520 That's most favored nation trading status. 0.68

00:01:31.840 That's what made China the dangerous superpower they are today.

00:01:37.100 President Donald Trump's recent state visit to Beijing revives the Nixonian tradition of pragmatic interest-driven diplomacy with a foreign policy adversary, 0.94

00:01:46.900 engaging from strength while delivering concrete American wins while actively correcting the

00:01:53.700 structural imbalances and strategic vulnerabilities created by the failures of past policies.

00:01:59.600 You see, when Nixon landed in Beijing, that was February 1972, China was still a desperately

00:02:06.360 poor agrarian society, still recovering from the Cultural Revolution. Rural areas largely

00:02:13.640 lacked indoor plumbing, and electricity was minimal, particularly in the rural areas.

00:02:18.880 Rural electricity consumption was only about 10% of national totals in the 1960s and 70s.

00:02:26.200 Its military was massive in manpower, but technologically extremely backwards,

00:02:30.460 with limited projection capability. Their GDP per capita hovered around subsistence levels.

00:02:37.860 Nixon, the consummate anti-communist pursued classical realpolitik, exploiting the Sino-Soviet

00:02:45.720 split in order to isolate Moscow, ease pressure in Vietnam, and create a triangular balance of power.

00:02:54.320 You see, Nixon needed the help of both the Chinese and the Russians to end the war in Vietnam.

00:03:01.120 The Shanghai Communicare was deliberately cautious, acknowledging differences,

00:03:05.280 opposing hegemonia in Asia and committing to gradual normalization and people-to-people

00:03:11.980 contacts without massive technology transfers or one-sided economic concessions.

00:03:18.540 Trade in 1972 stood at a mere $95.9 million. Nixon built a bridge across 22 years of hostility,

00:03:28.180 famously declaring it the week that changed the world. But he did so without arming or

00:03:34.200 enriching a future arrival at America's expense. Clinton's policy, on the other hand, marked a

00:03:40.460 sharp and consequential departure from Nixon's success. Convinced that economic liberalization

00:03:46.460 would foster political openness, the Clinton administration granted the most favored nation

00:03:52.400 trading status to China in 2000 and supported China's World Trade Organization ascension in 2001.

00:04:00.520 U.S. officials projected modest trade growth and mutual benefits.

00:04:06.120 Unfortunately, reality proved otherwise.

00:04:09.460 Pre-World Trade Organization, the U.S. goods trade deficit with China was about $83 billion.

00:04:16.860 By 2015, it had ballooned to $367 billion, an annual average increase of over $20 billion a year.

00:04:26.520 Imports from China surged from $102 billion to $483 billion,

00:04:31.880 while U.S. exports grew far more slowly from a much smaller base.

00:04:37.020 Economists estimate this China shock displaced 2.4 to 3.4 million U.S. jobs,

00:04:44.200 with roughly $2.6 million of those jobs lost in manufacturing. 0.94

00:04:49.780 Devastating communities in electronics, apparel, furniture, and other sectors.

00:04:55.680 China's economy, of course, exploded 11 times larger by some measures post-ascension fueled by foreign investment, technological transfers, and export-led growth, its military modernization rapidly shifting from coastal defense to blue water ambitions.

00:05:15.680 What Nixon engaged as a weak agrarian power, Clinton's policies helped transform into an economic and military superpower.

00:05:25.680 Now, President Trump's May 2026 visit to China reflects a return to the Nixonian calculus adapted by 21st century realities.

00:05:35.540 Direct personal engagement, tangible reciprocal deals, and firm guardrails on strategic competition.

00:05:42.200 Like Nixon's trip, it featured high-level meetings, cultural exchanges, and a warm rapport with leadership.

00:05:49.480 Xi Jinping may be a wicked guy, just like Mao Zedong clearly was,

00:05:53.440 but those characterizations are often immaterial pertaining to geopolitical realities.

00:06:00.500 Unlike Clinton's broad market opening that disproportionately benefited China,

00:06:05.380 President Trump secured very specific wins for American exporters.

00:06:10.180 China committed to an initial 200 Boeing aircraft purchase,

00:06:14.380 with potential expansion to 750 planes,

00:06:17.140 plus hundreds of GE jet engines reopening a critical market for U.S. aviation

00:06:24.020 and supporting thousands of American manufacturing jobs.

00:06:28.400 Agricultural agreements promised double-digit billions in annual purchases of U.S. soybeans, beef, pork, and other farm programs.

00:06:38.200 Expanded imports of American oil and natural gas further bolster U.S. energy producers.

00:06:44.320 New bilateral mechanisms, including a U.S.-China Board of Trade under a reciprocal trade framework, aim to stabilize ties on a much more balanced basis.

00:06:56.240 These outcomes contrast sharply with the post-Clinton imbalances.

00:07:01.780 President Trump negotiates from strength, leveraging tariffs, export controls, and alliances, while delivering immediate benefits to U.S. farmers, manufacturers, and energy workers.

00:07:14.320 The approach wisely manages competition without repeating that naive bet

00:07:19.480 that economic integration alone would somehow moderate Beijing's behavior.

00:07:24.620 Nixon engaged in a fragmented, impoverished China to encounter the Soviets.

00:07:30.520 President Trump is engaging a powerful China to prevent dominance in key sectors,

00:07:35.880 secure supply chain resilience, and protect critical infrastructure and technology.

00:07:41.660 Trump has scored with a commitment from China not to provide weapons to Iran,

00:07:45.480 and China will not support Iran's development of a nuclear weapon,

00:07:49.740 at the same time getting commitments for the purchase of American agricultural products like soybean, beef, and pork.

00:07:56.280 Big difference.

00:07:57.660 The Chinese have also agreed to purchase 200 Boeing aircraft, as I say.

00:08:01.560 Trump deals from strength and has cut China's access to cheap oil from Venezuela and Iran.

00:08:08.560 That's why he had the whip hand going into these negotiations.

00:08:13.640 History underscores the difference in risk.

00:08:16.240 Engaging a weak China in 1972 carried manageable downsides. 0.69

00:08:21.980 But empowering it through unconditional access after 2000 gave a burgeoning rival everything it needed to obtain global hegemony.

00:08:32.640 President Trump's bridge building seeks to restore reciprocity and leverage.

00:08:36.840 honoring Nixon's realism while repairing decades of policy missteps.

00:08:42.260 The test ahead is whether sustained pressure and a targeted engagement

00:08:46.520 can produce a stable, interest-based relationship

00:08:49.540 that prioritizes American workers' security and prosperity,

00:08:54.300 outcomes put on the back burner due to the neoliberal Clinton consensus.

00:09:00.040 In an era of competing world powers,

00:09:02.720 Nixon's prudence without wearing ideological rose-colored glasses

00:09:06.180 serves the wiser path forward, and President Donald Trump recognizes it, coming back with

00:09:12.620 solid wins. Meanwhile, the strength of the Trump endorsement is proven yet again. Senator Bill

00:09:20.120 Cassidy, Dr. Bill Cassidy's political career came to an abrupt halt in Saturday's Republican

00:09:27.480 Louisiana primary. They rejected the U.S. Senate incumbent, pushing him into a third-place finish

00:09:34.280 in the state's Republican primary.

00:09:36.720 He actually got less than 25%,

00:09:38.720 which is the low watermark of all time

00:09:41.380 for an incumbent senator running for re-election

00:09:44.100 within the Republican Party.

00:09:46.420 Republican-endorsed Congresswoman Julia Letlow 0.86

00:09:48.920 led the field with about 45% of the vote,

00:09:51.680 while State Treasurer John Fleming

00:09:53.600 faced second with 28%,

00:09:55.980 both of them, by the way, solid Trump supporters.

00:09:59.080 The two will now advance to a June 27th runoff,

00:10:02.420 leaving Cassidy on the outside looking in.

00:10:06.120 Senator Cassidy's collapse was years in the making.

00:10:09.460 He angered the Republican base by actually voting to convict President Trump after January 6th,

00:10:15.440 repeatedly backing the bankrupt and failing Obamacare program,

00:10:19.460 and, candidly, whoring himself out to the corrupt health care industry.

00:10:24.600 Cassidy, unsurprisingly, also had deep ties to Big Pharma,

00:10:27.940 including taking over $1.2 million in career contributions from the pharmaceutical and health products sector.

00:10:38.920 Cassidy's opponents appointed donations from major pharma executives after Cassidy became the top Republican on the Senate Health Committee in 2023,

00:10:47.640 as well as his opposition to drug pricing reforms that would have helped working families.

00:10:53.140 Cassidy's defeat marks the first time since 2021 that a sitting U.S. senator has lost a regularly scheduled primary.

00:11:00.460 That was when Indiana's Dick Lugar was beaten by Richard Murdoch.

00:11:04.940 Letlow now enters the runoff as the Trump-aligned frontrunner.

00:11:09.600 She has campaigned on border security, American energy, and fighting woke policies.

00:11:15.000 She will be a reliable vote for President Trump in the U.S. Senate. 0.73

00:11:18.480 And the message will be sent to every other rhino that they need to vote consistently with the America First line. 0.87

00:11:25.420 Now, I've been in American politics for over 50 years. 0.93

00:11:29.240 I can tell you President Ronald Reagan was extraordinarily popular, perhaps one of the most popular presidents of my lifetime.

00:11:36.080 But his endorsement never packed the kind of wallop that Donald Trump's endorsement does.

00:11:40.920 He has, as he's proud to say, a 95 percent win rate in those races where he has endorsed a candidate.

00:11:47.680 And that certainly continued in Louisiana

00:11:51.200 Woe be it to those U.S. senators or congressmen who oppose the Trump agenda

00:11:56.520 Because you may very well be next

00:11:59.260 Incumbents don't lose, 98% of incumbents win re-election

00:12:03.320 Senator Cassidy is that rare exception

00:12:06.160 That's because he fooled around and found out

00:12:09.760 I'm Roger Stone, you're listening to The Stone Zone

00:12:12.680 And we'll be right back with more politics

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00:12:25.920 Welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:12:28.940 Well, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche has announced that the Justice Department is actively investigating evidence that the 2020 presidential election was rigged.

00:12:39.920 And he's promising the American people will be seeing the results of this investigation very soon.

00:12:45.560 Appearing on Fox News' Sunday morning Futures show, Blanche was asked by Maria Bartiromo

00:12:51.800 about President Trump's long-standing claim that the 2020 election was stolen

00:12:56.560 and about White House Chief of Staff Susie Weil's suggestion that Americans may learn

00:13:02.040 President Trump actually won certain states.

00:13:05.740 Blanche responded that there is a ton of evidence the election was rigged,

00:13:09.820 saying that the issue has been discussed for years.

00:13:11.980 He said the Justice Department has multiple investigations underway, including in Arizona, Georgia, and specifically Fulton County, Georgia.

00:13:21.100 According to Blanche, investigators are examining whether the right people voted, whether eligible voters were cast, and whether each vote cast only one vote.

00:13:30.660 Blanche acknowledged that the process is difficult, saying that those involved are very good at hiding misconduct.

00:13:36.200 It's not the first time I've heard this.

00:13:38.240 The Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, once told me that those who may have been involved in election fraud were very careful to erase the evidence.

00:13:49.420 Blanche said uncovering what happened in 2020 requires serious law enforcement work, prosecutors, and old-fashioned police investigation.

00:13:58.300 He also said Americans will be told what the Department of Justice uncovers, whether that comes through charges, a report, or other investigative findings.

00:14:07.020 To me, this is long overdue. The idea that 81 million people voted for Joe Biden, who was basically campaigning from his basement, defies all reality. The idea that Joe Biden, on average, got 20% more in the African-American-dominated precincts in the urban areas of America, 20% more than Barack Obama, is just not credible.

00:14:35.040 Those who were on the ground in places like Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan watched grotesque fraud happen right before their very eyes.

00:14:44.900 And in the aftermath, they were mocked, censored, smeared for telling the truth about what happened.

00:14:50.220 In some places, for example, with former mayor Rudy Giuliani, they were disbarred just for zealously defending President Donald Trump and his legal claims.

00:15:01.240 Those who fought back against this massive election fraud faced repercussions, including the Trump electors getting charged with multiple felonies for refusing to go along with the sham.

00:15:12.760 Just to be very clear, having an alternative elector is not illegal.

00:15:18.320 John Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, filed an alternative elector slate in Hawaii because on election night it appeared that Vice President Richard Nixon had carried the state.

00:15:28.260 But the Kennedy forces were confident that once all the absentee ballots were counted, that Kennedy would have carried Hawaii.

00:15:35.660 Therefore, he filed an alternative electorate slate.

00:15:38.700 They were ultimately seated, and therefore there was no legal action against them.

00:15:44.460 The formation of an alternative electorate slate pending the outcome of litigation over the outcome of the election is not in any way illegal.

00:15:54.840 If you actually read the minutes of the meeting of the alternative electors in Georgia, they make it very clear that they were forming this slate of electors to protect their legal rights in the event that they were successful in their legal challenge to the outcome of the election.

00:16:13.220 Somehow the folks over at MSNBC and the Biden Justice Department made this a crime when it's not a crime.

00:16:20.600 Kudos to Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche for digging into this.

00:16:25.360 Also to Tulsi Gabbard, who's been working on it for some time.

00:16:29.120 We need to know two things.

00:16:30.840 We need to know whether these electronic voting machines are secure or whether they can be manipulated.

00:16:37.060 We need to know whether they have been manipulated.

00:16:39.580 We also need to know about the efficacy of these mail-in ballots.

00:16:43.180 I think the President's right.

00:16:44.980 it's time to have the election on one day, all paper ballots, absentee ballots only allowed on

00:16:51.800 the basis of a legitimate excuse such as health or business absence. I'm Roger Stone. You're

00:16:58.380 listening to The Stone Zone. We'll be right back with more political news on the other side.

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00:17:13.400 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.

00:17:15.340 Here's some good news.

00:17:17.180 President Trump is dropping a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS,

00:17:22.360 a move tied to a broader effort to compensate those Americans

00:17:25.940 who were unfairly targeted by federal agencies under previous administrations.

00:17:31.220 President Trump had sued the IRS and the Treasury Department in January,

00:17:35.520 along with Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump,

00:17:38.300 alleging that the agency failed to protect their confidential tax records

00:17:41.780 during his first presidency.

00:17:43.840 Former IRS contractor Charles Littlejohn

00:17:46.700 was sentenced to five years in prison

00:17:48.520 for leaking Trump's tax records,

00:17:50.980 along with records belonging to thousands of others.

00:17:54.080 Court documents filed Monday

00:17:55.680 said Trump is dismissing the case with prejudice,

00:17:58.840 meaning he cannot bring the same claim again.

00:18:01.760 The filing did not describe a settlement,

00:18:04.140 noting that the case is still in its early stages.

00:18:06.780 The move comes as the administration

00:18:08.600 prepares a $1.8 billion

00:18:10.780 anti-weaponization fund for people who were victims of politically driven investigations

00:18:16.880 or misconduct. This is certainly good news for my wife and I in the Russian collusion hoax in which

00:18:24.180 even Robert Mueller finally had to admit once we got the federal courts to unredact his long hidden

00:18:31.640 report that I had done nothing wrong. We lost our home, our insurance, our savings, both health and

00:18:38.940 life insurance, our savings. I had to sell my car. I had to sell my prized electric guitar,

00:18:46.120 put myself to college with that. It was a very dark time without any question. It was not

00:18:51.280 but for the help of thousands of Americans contributing, in my case, to a legal defense

00:18:57.220 fund that I was able to put on any defense at all, although the judge in my case would really allow

00:19:02.280 no defense, and the whole thing was a Soviet-style show trial in the worst sense of the world.

00:19:08.940 This new anti-weaponization fund is for people who are victims of politically driven investigations or misconduct.

00:19:16.720 Of course, Democrats immediately cried foul.

00:19:19.700 The newly announced fund could go to help those who were thrown in prison or had their due process stripped from them over January 6th,

00:19:26.900 or the so-called fake electors whose lives were destroyed, people like Tina Peters, who were in prison for investigating election fraud.

00:19:35.260 I was glad to see that the governor of Colorado finally commuted her sentence. 1.00

00:19:40.340 She's in poor health, and her only crime is keeping documentation of election fraud.

00:19:47.220 Also, those like myself who are targeted over the Russiagate hoax,

00:19:51.340 and the lawyers who were sanctioned because they took election fraud-related cases.

00:19:55.820 Recent judgments show how the tide is turning.

00:19:59.360 The great General Michael Flynn, one of my greatest friends,

00:20:02.060 Perhaps one of the greatest, finest Christian gentlemen I've ever met, and a true geopolitical thinker, received more than $1 million after suing over FBI conduct.

00:20:13.440 And former Trump advisor Carter Page also settled claims tied to his Fourth Amendment rights being violated by the Obama deep state spooks.

00:20:22.920 Now, General Flynn's victory in court is really symbolic.

00:20:27.660 It is a pyrrhic victory, because I can tell you he lost far more than $1 million.

00:20:33.920 But it is at least an acknowledgment that he was wronged, and I'm glad to see that.

00:20:40.160 It's time for all of the victims of government reposition to finally get justice, not just me.

00:20:44.700 It's a shame that the individuals responsible are not forced to pay personally, as far as I'm concerned.

00:20:49.540 and it will be the taxpayers who will be footing the bill.

00:20:52.540 Hopefully, those individuals responsible will pay dearly in the end,

00:20:57.460 hopefully in the form of steep prison sentences,

00:20:59.600 because, you see, a seditious conspiracy to bring down the government

00:21:03.040 is both illegal and unconstitutional.

00:21:05.660 And there's little question at this point that Barack Obama

00:21:10.060 and Vice President Joe Biden and the National Security Advisor Susan Rice

00:21:15.200 and the Director of National Intelligence General James Clapper 0.99

00:21:19.420 and the odious CIA director John O. Brennan, one of the most pompous jerks I've ever seen. 0.98

00:21:28.180 Last week he was bragging about the fact that, quote-unquote, 0.95

00:21:30.820 they were professionals still in the intelligence agencies

00:21:33.480 who were resisting the efforts by President Trump to investigate exactly what happened

00:21:39.240 and hold those responsible accountable.

00:21:42.600 This guy never knows when to shut up, to be quite honest with you.

00:21:46.120 I really hope this does, as the acting attorney general, Todd Blanche has said, end up in indictments.

00:21:54.160 There is clearly a path.

00:21:57.280 You don't have to go to trial in Washington, D.C.

00:22:00.360 You can go to trial in South Florida.

00:22:02.420 It's one continuing seditious conspiracy.

00:22:05.140 You see, it began in 2016 in an Oval Office meeting chaired by Obama himself, in which they openly discussed the Clinton plan, which was the false narrative that Donald Trump was assisted to the presidency through Russian interference and assistance that never had any basis whatsoever, in fact.

00:22:27.100 They used two completely fraudulent pieces of evidence, the so-called Steele dossier.

00:22:33.060 That was a secret report that claimed that Donald Trump had had inappropriate interactions with Russian prostitutes while visiting Moscow as a private citizen.

00:22:44.580 That turned out to be completely contrived, paid for by Hillary Clinton, by the way, whose campaign actually paid a fine for trying to disguise that expenditure as legal expenses.

00:22:54.860 and the completely fake claim that the Democrat National Committee had been hacked by Russian intelligence.

00:23:04.820 Once again, this was a claim invented by John Brennan for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

00:23:11.760 Prosecutors in my case asserted this to be a fact over and over again.

00:23:15.080 In fact, one of them, Jonathan Kravis, whose real name is Kravis, claimed in a rare filing, a surreply,

00:23:24.860 that the government had additional evidence that the Russians had hacked the DNC,

00:23:30.160 but that he couldn't show it to the court because it was classified.

00:23:34.540 That is, of course, a lie.

00:23:36.900 There was evidence that information was stolen from the Democrat National Committee.

00:23:41.460 The judge would not let me bring expert testimony nor forensic evidence.

00:23:46.060 I wanted to call Bill Binney, the former CIA counterintelligence IT expert,

00:23:52.160 who could have proved, based on the download times of those documents,

00:23:57.680 that they were stolen by transporting them to a portable drive of some kind

00:24:02.840 and taken out the back door.

00:24:06.440 So it's time for transparency and accountability.

00:24:10.240 The Democrats, of course, say that this is all about revenge and retaliation.

00:24:16.920 No, it's about accountability and justice.

00:24:20.220 Those who violated the law, those who violated the Constitution in their manic efforts to destroy Donald Trump and his family, their efforts to keep him off the ballot, their efforts to break him financially, their efforts to destroy him and imprison him, they really must be exposed.

00:24:39.680 And I think that's going to happen.

00:24:41.480 So I applaud the president in a selfless act.

00:24:46.380 He could have won this lawsuit.

00:24:48.240 he could have pocketed $10 billion.

00:24:51.320 Instead, those people who were victimized on January 6th,

00:24:55.800 those people like Carter Page and George Papadopoulos,

00:24:58.900 Paul Manafort, General Michael Flynn,

00:25:01.640 and others who were victimized by the Russian collusion hoaxers,

00:25:06.280 they will all be eligible.

00:25:08.700 I'm not sure what my prospects are,

00:25:10.740 but my lawyers are following it very closely,

00:25:13.100 and perhaps we can get some small modicum of what we lost back.

00:25:18.240 In the meanwhile, President Donald Trump is taking a well-earned victory lap after a major climate panel backed away from one of the most extreme doomsday warning scenarios, which has been used for years to justify radical energy policy, essentially meant to stifle economic growth and development.

00:25:35.620 The United Nations-backed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has announced that it is adjusting its modeling framework, moving away from the high-end RCP 8.5-style projection that envisioned a 4 to 5 degree Celsius of warming by 2100.

00:25:54.640 That scenario helped fuel predictions of catastrophic sea level rises, crop failures, melting glaciers, and global disaster.

00:26:04.700 Isn't that what Al Gore has been predicting for years but never happened?

00:26:08.400 President Trump blasted Democrats on his social media, Truth Social,

00:26:14.460 noting that the climate establishment had finally admitted its projections were completely wrong.

00:26:19.560 Many years after the public had already figured that out,

00:26:22.300 President Trump argued that climate alarmism has been used to scare Americans,

00:26:27.460 attack reliable energy, and funnel billions of dollars

00:26:30.460 into these politically driven research and green subsidies.

00:26:34.620 Scientists now say the most extreme forecasts have become less plausible

00:26:39.180 due to renewable energy trends, climate policy, and recent emissions data.

00:26:44.460 Instead, research are calling for a broader range of scenarios

00:26:48.240 rather than relying on the most frightening assumptions.

00:26:52.160 So, in other words, they are defaulting to what the sketchbooks have been saying from the very beginning.

00:26:57.660 Americans were told for years that catastrophe was unavoidable

00:27:00.860 unless they accepted higher energy prices, government mandates, and the so-called Green New Deal agenda.

00:27:08.460 Anyone who did not believe this was considered to be a Neanderthal at best, or an evil villain monster at worst.

00:27:15.580 Now even the climate establishment is wisely making energy independence central to their failures.

00:27:23.540 Now even, pardon me, President Trump has wisely made energy independence central to his agenda,

00:27:28.200 rolling back the Biden and Obama era restrictions

00:27:31.680 defending oil, gas, and American workers.

00:27:35.440 Nobody is doubting that the climate change

00:27:37.440 and the climate warms and cools.

00:27:39.320 We have climate change.

00:27:41.320 It's called four times a year,

00:27:43.460 summer, winter, fall, etc.

00:27:46.300 But acting like it's our duty to change the weather

00:27:48.520 is the height of liberal hubris.

00:27:50.840 We can't play God.

00:27:52.380 The sooner we accept that,

00:27:53.540 the less likely man-made catastrophe will occur.

00:27:57.740 Meanwhile, Cuba's communist regime is accusing the United States of building a fraudulent case for economic war and possible military action

00:28:05.820 after reports accurately claim that Havana had obtained more than 300 military drones

00:28:11.960 and was discussing using them against the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay.

00:28:17.000 Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez blasted the report, saying that Washington was using media leaks to justify aggression.

00:28:25.080 However, you notice he didn't directly deny that Cuba possesses these drones.

00:28:30.460 The Trump State Department responded very sharply, calling Cuba a failed communist state

00:28:35.400 that has long hosted hostile military, intelligence, and terror groups.

00:28:40.840 Officials say that President Trump will protect America's and U.S. interests and the homeland from any threat.

00:28:46.880 Cuba's rhetoric comes as the regime faces a deepening internal crisis.

00:28:51.160 Its energy minister recently admitted that the country has run out of diesel and heavy fuel oil, leaving the power grid in critical condition.

00:29:00.140 Cuba has not received regular oil supplies since December, relying recently on a shipment from Russia.

00:29:06.900 In other words, no more oil from Venezuela, no more oil from Iran.

00:29:11.820 The United States has also renewed an offer to provide direct humanitarian aid to the Cuban people,

00:29:16.980 aid that would have to bypass regime control by working through the Catholic Church.

00:29:22.620 The Cuban government has resisted these efforts because they don't want the generosity of the United States to be seen.

00:29:28.120 They want to keep demonizing America as part of their continuous communist propaganda drive.

00:29:33.520 Washington says the Cuban regime must choose.

00:29:35.680 They can either play ball or they can face the Venezuela treatment.

00:29:39.940 Join the free world or get Maduro. Those are the options.

00:29:43.500 However, this socialist failed regime may be so stubborn that they choose the hard route.

00:29:49.160 Well, so be it.

00:29:50.560 President Trump is right to treat hostile regimes in America's backyard as national security threats.

00:29:56.160 The Don Roe Doctrine is nothing to fool around with.

00:29:58.960 I say the time to liberate Cuba is now. 0.96

00:30:02.920 For many, many years, there has been a cottage industry of those in Miami

00:30:07.300 who have gotten millions of dollars from USAID

00:30:10.420 and collected millions of dollars of campaign contributions

00:30:14.340 complaining about the brutal regime in Havana.

00:30:17.880 Now, finally, President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio

00:30:22.520 may be prepared to bring liberty back to Cuba.

00:30:26.660 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone

00:30:28.660 right here on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:30:30.780 And don't go away because we'll be right back.

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00:30:44.460 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.

00:30:47.840 Glad to be back with you after a little bout of laryngitis, which is an occupational hazard for a talk show host.

00:30:55.440 A key figure in Minnesota's massive pandemic era fraud scandal is now raising questions about what Congresswoman Ilhan Omar knew and when she knew it.

00:31:06.560 Amy Bach, founder of the nonprofit Feeding Our Future, was convicted in March of 2025 on conspiracy, bribery, and wire fraud charges tied to an alleged $250 million scheme involving federal child nutrition programs.

00:31:23.020 Prosecutors said that participants submitted fake or inflated claims for meals supposedly served to low-income children, collecting millions in taxpayers' dollars for meals that never really existed.

00:31:34.760 Speaking with the New York Post while awaiting sentencing,

00:31:37.520 Bach said she struggles to believe that Omar did not know about the fraud.

00:31:41.740 Bach denies knowingly participating in criminal conduct

00:31:44.920 and says she tried to warn state officials.

00:31:48.700 Scandal has already led to dozens of convictions

00:31:51.000 and has placed new scrutiny on Minnesota's pandemic-era oversight failures.

00:31:56.600 Omar played a key role in expanding the meal program flexibility during COVID-19

00:32:01.480 through her 2020 Meals Act,

00:32:04.540 which was pushed to broader USDA waiver authority

00:32:07.580 as Washington rushed to loosen rules

00:32:10.340 in the name of emergency relief.

00:32:13.040 Those waivers reduced oversight requirements

00:32:15.420 and they helped create the environment

00:32:16.920 that allowed fraudsters to exploit U.S. taxpayers

00:32:19.860 on a massive scale.

00:32:22.020 Bach also claimed that when waivers were set to expire,

00:32:25.280 Omar herself would eventually step in 1.00

00:32:27.140 to keep the system moving.

00:32:29.100 Ilhan Omar has not been charged in the case,

00:32:31.300 but Bach's comments indicate the obvious. 1.00

00:32:34.100 Ilhan Omar is another Somali swindler 1.00

00:32:36.560 who's hooking up with her fellow ethnic invaders 1.00

00:32:40.120 throughout Minnesota 1.00

00:32:41.520 with her crooked behavior in Congress.

00:32:44.400 COVID emergency powers opened the door

00:32:46.400 to reckless spending, weak oversight,

00:32:48.800 and massive abuse,

00:32:50.960 and the invaders took full advantage of that.

00:32:53.400 Now's the time for them to be held accountable

00:32:55.060 and sent back home where they belong.

00:32:57.820 But Omar can stay only if she's locked behind bars, 0.99

00:33:00.480 as far as I'm concerned, made an example of what happens when foreigners abuse the generosity and 0.99

00:33:05.280 charity of good, decent Americans. To me, there is a fundamental question here. There is no question 0.93

00:33:11.620 has been established that Ilhan Omar fraudulently married her own cousin in order to gain entry into

00:33:19.500 the United States. On that basis alone, she should be deported. And to this day, I do not understand

00:33:25.800 why she has not been deported. Anyway, let's move on. A new Rasmussen poll shows that most Americans

00:33:34.220 understand that federal officials under the guidance of America's own Dr. Mengele, Dr.

00:33:40.040 Anthony Fauci, covered up China's role in the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic. According to

00:33:45.500 a new poll, 63% of likely U.S. voters say it is likely that some American officials

00:33:51.020 were involved in concealing China's role from the very outbreak.

00:33:55.340 43% said the cover-up is very likely.

00:33:59.280 Only 25% said they didn't believe that there was any cover-up,

00:34:02.880 while 13% were unsure.

00:34:05.600 The poll asks a direct question,

00:34:07.600 how likely is it that some U.S. officials were involved in a cover-up

00:34:11.540 of China's role in the COVID-19 pandemic?

00:34:13.880 The poll shows that public distrust remains deep

00:34:16.880 despite years of mainstream media propaganda

00:34:20.940 about the safety and the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccinations.

00:34:26.080 The numbers show that lockdowns, mandates, censorship, school closures,

00:34:31.560 and official attacks on anyone to question the approved narrative

00:34:34.940 have not changed public attitudes.

00:34:37.800 The public hasn't forgotten about the way their public health officials lied and deceived them.

00:34:42.180 The survey also found that a plurality of voters, 43%,

00:34:46.180 do not believe that Dr. Anthony Fauci has told the truth about U.S. government funding of the

00:34:51.840 gain-of-function research. 36% say they believe Fauci was truthful, while 21% are unsure.

00:34:59.620 This is exactly why accountability matters. Unfortunately, the U.S. Justice Department

00:35:04.640 let the time frame under which Fauci had to be charged for lying under oath to Congress,

00:35:09.780 the very charge that I was falsely attacked. 1.00

00:35:12.700 He was dumb. 1.00

00:35:14.420 Expire. 1.00

00:35:15.860 I'm not sure that you could convict him

00:35:17.820 on the larger crime of crimes against humanity,

00:35:20.580 but on the narrow claim that he did not know

00:35:23.960 that the gain of functions at the Wuhan lab

00:35:29.340 were paid for by U.S. taxpayers

00:35:31.160 is a fairly easy case to prove.

00:35:34.560 This is exactly why accountability matters.

00:35:36.680 Americans were told to obey,

00:35:38.420 told to stay quiet,

00:35:39.320 trust the experts, and dismiss the lab leak theory as some kind of crazy conspiracy theory.

00:35:45.940 People who came out day one and cried foul were attacked mercilessly while the cover-up was

00:35:50.560 initiated. Now many voters, many Americans understand the cover-up as many in our government

00:35:56.140 were compelled to protect our foreign adversary. This in my view is treason. It's clear that many

00:36:01.180 were guilty. It's time to bring them up on charges. We can't wait any longer for justice,

00:36:05.800 particularly justice for the Mengele of our times, Dr. Anthony Fauci. 1.00

00:36:11.160 Thanks for joining us today on The Stone Zone. 0.86

00:36:13.080 I'm Roger Stone.

00:36:13.920 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.

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