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00:00:00.000 this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone

00:00:16.020 now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone welcome you are entering the stone

00:00:26.800 zone and we've got a big beautiful show for you tonight i just returned from the dominican

00:00:32.760 republic where i went to cover the launch of maria that is an ai program very much like elon musk's

00:00:40.420 doge designed to ferret out waste fraud and corruption in that country's government also

00:00:47.340 to visit carlos and laura gavidia he's the empresario put together the largest trump

00:00:53.260 boat parade in u.s political history i come back to a scene in american politics in which

00:01:01.980 well generally speaking politics is about the future not the past but we're learning a lot of

00:01:08.740 things about our recent political past that are quite shocking not only do we learn the extent

00:01:16.860 to which joe biden was incapacitated during his presidency which many of us already believed

00:01:23.760 but now we learned that he has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer listen to

00:01:30.380 president donald trump on this given to everybody but it's given just about and it takes a long time

00:01:36.480 to get to that situation now i think you know to get to a stage nine i think that uh if you take a

00:01:43.440 look it's the same doctor that said that joe was cognitively fine there was nothing wrong with him

00:01:49.600 well he said if it's the same doctor he said there was nothing wrong there and that's being proven

00:01:54.940 to be a sad situation and uh the auto pen is becoming a very big deal you know the auto pen is becoming a

00:02:01.640 big deal because it seems like that maybe was the president who ever operated the auto pen

00:02:05.420 but when they say that that was not good they also you know you have to look and you have to say that

00:02:10.700 the test was not so good either in other words there are things going on that the public wasn't

00:02:17.080 informed and i think somebody's going to have to speak to his doctor if it's the same or even if

00:02:20.900 it's two separate doctors uh why wasn't the cognitive ability why wasn't that discussed and and i think

00:02:29.800 the doctor said he's just fine and it's turned out and here's the amazing thing according to a white 1.00

00:02:35.280 house statement the president's uh diagnosis the former president's diagnosis with cancer was

00:02:41.100 discovered and announced late last week but here's joe biden back in 2022 announcing that he had cancer

00:02:49.260 and because it was a four-lane highway that was accessible my mother drove us and rather than us

00:02:57.580 be able to walk and guess what the first frost you know what was happening it had to put on their

00:03:04.680 windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window that's why i and so damn many other 0.73

00:03:10.360 people i grew up have cancer and why can't for the longest time delaware had the highest cancer rate in

00:03:16.380 the nation uh really kind of mind-boggling meanwhile the president has raised a legitimate issue regarding

00:03:24.400 the auto pen now when president donald trump pardoned me after they tried to lynch me in a

00:03:30.520 soviet-style show trial complete with a uh a hateful anti-trump judge a deeply biased and corrupt jury

00:03:40.180 forewoman a rigged jury and despite the fact that the judge withheld exculpatory evidence that proved that 0.99

00:03:47.480 i knew about no russian collusion or was involved in any wiki leagues collaboration at least i know

00:03:53.540 president donald trump signed my pardon himself it wasn't signed with an auto pen now congressman

00:04:00.800 uh tim burchett of tennessee uh has announced that uh there is evidence that those who were controlling

00:04:09.120 the auto pen were taking bribes this could explain why in addition to a number of his political cronies

00:04:17.980 like adam schiff and nancy pelosi and uh uh the vindman brothers uh and uh others uh who he gave a

00:04:28.980 preemptive pardon to including dr anthony fauci for some reason joe biden pardoned a large number of

00:04:37.280 hardened criminals murderers uh and drug dealers who expressed no remorse whatsoever considering that the

00:04:45.860 established media has lied and cover up for biden's mental incapacity for years it seems unlikely to

00:04:50.560 me therefore that this news of biden's illness was a recent diagnosis and then there's jake tapper

00:04:57.700 jake tapper uh rudely dismissed a lara trump during the last campaign when she raised the very legitimate

00:05:06.060 question of joe biden's cognitive decline the fact that he would read the stage directions off the

00:05:13.780 teleprompter the fact that he constantly fell down the fact that he couldn't seem to determine where

00:05:20.120 or which way to exit the stage that he would talk to people who didn't exist the fact that during

00:05:26.960 interviews his wife dr jill biden had to constantly bail him out because let's be candid he could rarely

00:05:33.420 finish an entire sentence never mind an entire uh thought listen to jake tapper shut lara trump down

00:05:41.380 every time he comes on stage or they turn to him i'm like joe can you get it out let's get the words

00:05:46.660 out joe you kind of feel bad for him how do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when

00:05:51.980 they see you make a comment like that uh first and foremost i had no idea that joe biden ever suffered

00:06:00.740 from a stutter i think what we see on stage with joe biden jake is very clearly a cognitive decline

00:06:06.820 okay that's what i'm referring to it makes me uncomfortable you have you are no

00:06:10.720 it's so amazing it's so amazing to me that and try and figure out an answer a cognitive decline

00:06:17.260 you're trying to tell me that what i was suggesting was i think that you were mocking his stutter yeah

00:06:22.560 i think you were mocking his stutter and i think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose

00:06:26.320 somebody's cognitive decline it's but i would think that somebody in the trump family would be

00:06:31.440 more sensitive to people who do do not have medical licenses diagnosing politicians from afar

00:06:39.060 plenty of people have diagnosed your father from afar and i i'm sure it offends you your father-in-law

00:06:44.300 from afar i'm sure it offends you you don't have any standing to say no saying now what i'm saying

00:06:48.960 you just talked about a cognitive decline that joe biden i have one last question for you lara you

00:06:53.880 can't times on stage and it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of

00:06:59.800 the free world okay that is all i'm saying i genuinely feel sorry for joe biden i appreciate

00:07:04.420 it i'm sure now amazingly suddenly jack jake tapper is out with a book which he's trying to cash in on

00:07:12.180 the fact that he claims that he missed the fact that joe biden was in mental and cognitive decline

00:07:19.760 by the way uh jake tapper also said in an interview that he thought i'd be happy to go to jail

00:07:25.520 uh he has no credibility he's not a journalist uh he's a partisan talking head who has shredded any

00:07:33.080 credibility that he had megan kelly however would not let him off the hook listen to this exchange

00:07:39.500 i did ask joe biden uh to be transparent about his health records in an interview in 2020 i did

00:07:45.600 ask him about the fact that voters but then he wasn't thought that he he was not transparent at all

00:07:51.180 no he promised you that he would be transparent about his health records and then he wasn't and

00:07:54.840 when you sat with him again at all including one month including one month after the jackie

00:07:59.060 walorski thing you didn't ask him about it you didn't follow up on the fact that he was falling

00:08:03.700 up the stairs that he was losing his train of thought regularly that he was slurring that he was

00:08:09.180 incomprehensible that he was getting lost on the white house lawn you sat right across from him and you

00:08:13.220 asked none of that notwithstanding the fact that he had promised you he would be fully transparent

00:08:17.320 about his health issues that's true but i did ask him about his age and the fact that the american

00:08:24.940 people had concluded that even though he said whenever anybody brought up the subject of his age

00:08:29.080 watch me and i said yes they're watching you and they are concerned that you were too old for this job

00:08:35.100 so you know you you know as well as i do that there's a way of you can say hey there's this poll

00:08:40.980 on your age or you could say you just forgot that jackie walorski was dead you you asked where she

00:08:48.460 was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her you lowered the flags at the white house

00:08:55.500 after she died this happened 13 days before you sat with him there is a way of pressing a man like that

00:09:02.460 on the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and to the audience and you didn't do it

00:09:07.660 uh this is why i love megan kelly uh but in his newly released book cnn's jake tapper has admitted

00:09:15.360 as he says the real issue wasn't his age per se it was the clear limitations of his abilities which

00:09:21.440 got worse throughout his presidency what the public saw in his functioning was concerning

00:09:26.040 uh what was going on in private was worse well that's certainly not what he said to lara trump

00:09:31.320 while biden on a day-in day-out basis could certainly make decisions and assert wisdom and act as

00:09:37.100 president i'm not sure that's true there were several significant issues that complicated his

00:09:42.320 presidency according to tapper a limit to the hours in which he could reliably function and

00:09:47.460 an increasing number of moments when he just seemed to freeze up long thought forget the names of his

00:09:53.940 own top aides didn't recognize his own cabinet members or momentarily not remember people he'd known

00:10:00.360 for decades not to mention impairments to his ability to communicate uh never mind the stutter the fact

00:10:07.120 that his comments would just trail off and he seemed incapable of completing a sentence now these

00:10:13.440 recently released audios uh of the special counsel robert hurr who was questioning joe biden about his

00:10:22.000 illegal retention of classified documents that as vice president and a u.s senator he had no

00:10:29.440 legal authority whatsoever to retain but his justice department charged president donald trump who

00:10:38.780 did as a former president have the authority to retain classified documents uh biden struggled to

00:10:46.400 recall when his son died when he left office as vice president what year donald trump was elected or

00:10:52.180 why he had classified documents he should have had to begin with that audio which was recorded in 2023

00:10:58.540 during biden's interviews with robert hurr demonstrate not only his failure to recall important

00:11:04.040 facts but also show him slurring and muttering the white house by the way refused to release those

00:11:10.020 recordings last year demonstrating that biden's mental incapacity uh was a serious issue and they

00:11:17.300 knew it would hamper his chances at re-election after he melted down in his one and only debate with

00:11:24.780 donald trump uh the democrats dumped him and then the people who whine constantly about democracy and

00:11:31.720 protecting democracy uh they used a completely undemocratic process in which kamala harris was 0.99

00:11:38.920 nominated for president even though not a single democrat primary or caucus voter voted for her

00:11:46.800 the democrats and joe biden's white house even blasted the special counsel claiming he was

00:11:52.400 a republican he wasn't uh kamala harris insisted after the debate that joe biden was sharp as attack

00:12:00.300 her words so while biden was mentally out to lunch the democrats used an auto pen to forge executive

00:12:08.120 orders in his name now congressman tim birch of tennessee has raised the question about the legality

00:12:14.020 of those pardons and other executive orders last democrat last december the democrats forged

00:12:21.480 biden's signature commuting the sentences of 1500 convicts including convicted murderers who had shown

00:12:28.020 no remorse as well as a number of drug dealers today birch said that there's evidence that those who

00:12:36.260 controlled the the the the uh the auto pen were taking bribes that would describe why this has gone

00:12:44.660 down was the largest single day of commutation and pardons in american history uh now the question

00:12:52.460 raises over the appointment of supreme court judge katanji brown because well her appointment was signed

00:13:00.480 with a auto pen as well now i'm not a lawyer uh and i don't know how that could be challenged but we'll talk

00:13:07.660 about it when we come back to the stone zone in just a minute this is the stone zone with roger stone

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00:13:51.980 this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger stone who's sitting in the

00:14:08.060 office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now he's cleaner than anybody in this

00:14:13.460 place now as i treated him very unfairly now get him a zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone

00:14:22.760 you're going to want to stay in the zone tonight because shortly we're going to be joined by attorney

00:14:30.040 larry schnapp he is an adjunct professor at new york law school he's also one of the leading advocates

00:14:35.840 and experts regarding the john f kennedy assassination records and a major advocate for transparency

00:14:43.140 he's going to talk to us about today's hearings of the house task force on declassification of the

00:14:48.520 documents regarding the kennedy assassination so you don't want to miss that i'm really not surprised

00:14:55.840 that the democrats and their handmaidens in the media have covered up joe biden's mental decline

00:15:01.980 or his cancer i mean this is after all the same party that cooked up the russian collusion hoax the

00:15:07.700 same party that twisted good people on both sides which the president never said into a racist smear

00:15:14.400 the same party that pushed the lie that trump called uh those who gave their lives in the service of our 0.97

00:15:20.180 country losers and suckers the party that ran two bogus impeachments based on nothing based on a 0.85

00:15:27.000 conversation that never took place regarding ukraine the same people who said that hunter 0.98

00:15:32.100 biden's laptop was russian disinformation right before the act of the election when they knew it

00:15:37.300 was in fact real the same party that said the border was secure while more than 20 million people

00:15:43.140 flooded in and well many children disappeared the same folks who said that inflation was transitory

00:15:49.260 while your grossly bill tripled the same party that helped fund dangerous gain-of-function

00:15:55.720 research in china and then lied about it the same party that used covet 19 as an excuse to crush

00:16:02.840 small businesses close churches control speech the same folks who said the vaccination stopped any

00:16:09.680 possibility of infection uh this is uh this is precisely the uh the same party that called parents who

00:16:19.640 were concerned about their uh the curriculum being taught to their children uh domestic terrorists or

00:16:29.080 those who catholics who chose to attend the latin mass uh they weaponized the system against their 0.96

00:16:36.380 opponents they lie they cheat they rigged so it cannot be called surprising now uh they knew that joe biden

00:16:45.000 was not all there i think it is elder abuse uh there has been a massive cover-up uh yes uh i i as a as a

00:16:53.560 as a christian i pray for joe biden but i pray more for our country uh and uh it is uh as uh oliver

00:17:04.120 hardy would say a fine kettle of fish uh that we have uh again i want you to stand by here in the zone

00:17:11.400 because we're going to be joined by larry snap he is uh someone i respect enormously in terms of his

00:17:17.560 knowledge regarding the kennedy assassination from the very beginning uh larry snap was i think one of

00:17:23.720 the most authoritative voices on what we needed to find that the president's sweeping executive order did

00:17:30.440 not cover when we come back we're going to talk about today's hearing what new information we learned

00:17:36.280 and well what's still missing when it comes to the kennedy assassination back in the stone zone so

00:17:42.440 don't go away this is the stone zone with roger stone the stone zone

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00:18:13.000 there was a hearing today on the u.s house task force on declassification of the documents

00:18:23.240 pertaining to the assassination of president john f kennedy ably chaired by congresswoman anna paulina

00:18:32.120 luna shortly after jfk was murdered the new president lyndon johnson actually resisted the idea

00:18:40.680 of a national commission to investigate kennedy's murder he initially wanted a texas state commission

00:18:46.920 he wanted supreme court justice tom clark who was a crony of his to chair it uh listen to lbj's

00:18:54.360 conversation with j edgar hoover here's president johnson talking to hoover on monday the 25th

00:19:01.800 about how to proceed with the investigation two things uh apparently some lawyer and justice is

00:19:08.680 lobbying with the post because uh that's where the suggestion came from to this presidential

00:19:14.600 commission which we think would be very bad to put it right in the white house and we can't be

00:19:20.520 uh checking up on every uh every uh shooting scrape in the country but they've gone to the post

00:19:28.520 now to get them an editorial the post is calling up saying they're going to run an editorial if we

00:19:32.440 don't do things president johnson's plan was to have two simultaneous but coordinated investigations

00:19:39.720 by hoover's fbi and the texas attorney general wagoner carr johnson was absolutely against appointing

00:19:48.840 a presidential committee it's hard to not be taken aback by johnson referring to the assassination of his

00:19:55.640 predecessor just three days earlier as a shooting scrape we can't be uh checking up on every uh

00:20:06.360 every uh shooting scrape in the country johnson's point was that he didn't want to involve the white

00:20:13.320 house in the investigation but the way he talks about it is perhaps a window into what he really

00:20:19.800 thought about president kennedy uh i find that shocking larry schnapp welcome uh larry schnapp is

00:20:28.440 as i say an attorney adjunct professor of new york law school uh one of the leading researchers and

00:20:35.000 experts on the kennedy assassination and the effort to learn more about it through greater transparency

00:20:41.560 welcome to the stone zone hi roger

00:20:44.200 so uh listen it was your letter that first brought my attention to the fact that the president's order

00:20:51.960 while extremely well intentioned was probably actually too narrowly uh uh written uh it really

00:20:59.720 suggests that the national archives release everything in the uh john f kennedy assassination records

00:21:07.000 collection but the federal government has a lot more documents than that and there are many important

00:21:12.520 things missing uh tell us about that and then tell us about today's hearing okay well the president's

00:21:19.720 executive memo i believe that they didn't realize what they were writing because it it did say that

00:21:26.200 that he didn't say he the president made a finding that was in the public interest which is the terminology

00:21:32.920 used in the statute the jfk records assassination statute um that it was the public interest that all of the

00:21:40.600 records of the records in the possession of the federal government uh be released

00:21:45.720 now the way the the order was then written

00:21:50.440 it it looked like he was referring to the records that were in the collection that is maintained by

00:21:57.800 the national archives back in 90s back in the 90s the records review board

00:22:03.880 basically got all the records uh from the agencies and then they were transferred to the national archives

00:22:10.600 but when the but when the review board went out of business in 1998 their work wasn't done congress

00:22:17.000 had just decided it wasn't going to fund them anymore and there were outstanding search requests

00:22:22.120 so what i've been trying to do is to try to alert um the people that were tasked by the executive order

00:22:30.600 um to you know comply with it that we're not just talking about the records that are in the collection

00:22:37.080 that are classified we're talking about the records that were never put in the collection so for example

00:22:43.160 we had the joe anides files uh joe george joe anides was a covert agent for the cia he was responsible for the um

00:22:52.360 the cuban exile group the dre they're the ones that um their representatives came in contact with oswald

00:22:59.080 uh in august of 63 when they had the street fight and then they're the ones that came out with oswald's

00:23:05.240 biography within hours of the assassination so they they knew all about him but those files um were

00:23:13.640 never turned over to the review board the review board and the hsca were misled in fact george joanides

00:23:20.360 as we learn today most people learn today for the first time he was the one tasked by the cia to work

00:23:27.560 with the hs the household assassinations committee and when he got involved suddenly the amount of

00:23:33.400 records that were being given to the um the hsca was slowed down slow walked um redacted and basically

00:23:42.920 they did the same thing they did to the hsca into the review board that they did to the warrant commission

00:23:47.800 which was to run the clock out on them so there are other records that are also not in the collection

00:23:53.240 for example um carlos marcelo allegedly uh confessed while in jail to his cellmate who had been an

00:24:01.320 undercover agent for the fbi that he was behind the assassination or at least maybe funded it um

00:24:09.400 those tapes are sealed they've never been given the light of day uh they're not in the collection

00:24:16.200 and we're we've asked uh the attorney general pam bondy to to get those because she can get them

00:24:22.280 unsealed um there are records that robert kennedy took from the white house in uh at the hours after

00:24:30.040 the assassination that were never turned over to the net to the um review board or the archives they are

00:24:36.840 supposedly going through declassification review but it's been going on forever the review board was trying

00:24:43.640 to get them um when they went on the business and that process came to a halt um and they may have

00:24:51.400 some really important stuff because these are files from the white house and that bobby kennedy was

00:24:55.480 involved um there are also um other records like william manchester had had tape recordings of that of

00:25:05.880 interviews with jackie kennedy and robert kennedy that were so supposedly very explosive um particularly with

00:25:13.640 jackie kennedy allegedly saying things about lyndon johnson um those records those tapes were sealed

00:25:21.640 by a deed of gift from the kennedy family or at least a settlement till 2067 the arb tried to

00:25:28.360 review board tried to get them released um in the 90s and carolyn kennedy was on the verge of doing it 0.55

00:25:33.880 and then her uncle ted said i don't think your mother would want to do it and then they've been shut down

00:25:38.840 and uh nbc has some films um that could possibly show that oswald was on the front steps of the

00:25:48.920 depository building at the time of the shooting not sure but at least they could be studied um and then

00:25:54.760 walter sheridan who was a right-hand man of of uh bobby kennedy did his own investigation for bobby

00:26:01.080 that the review board asked for those records and once again uh you know he basically sent them

00:26:07.160 over to nbc and nbc has been with holy name all these years the arb actually sued at uh sued to get

00:26:12.280 them but they went out of business so there's a bunch of records out there that haven't been given

00:26:17.000 to the national archives yet so we need not only just to release the records in the collection but

00:26:22.280 also those that are not in the collection yet and despite what the democrat the democratic uh witness

00:26:28.040 today said a lot of interesting and important stuff came out today uh that was a great compendium uh

00:26:36.280 and i learned almost everything you said from you uh and uh i was pleased to pass that on to uh

00:26:44.120 chairwoman uh anna polina luna uh what do you make of the uh of the so-called oliver orville nix film

00:26:52.840 nix was an air-conditioned repairman filming with his own eight millimeter camera there's some evidence

00:26:59.560 that the assassination records review board viewed all or portions of his film that film seems to be

00:27:06.200 missing no yeah so um apparently uh he gave it over to the government the hsca supposedly had it the

00:27:16.440 house select assassinations committee supposedly had it they sent it out to get analyzed and

00:27:22.680 somewhere along the line it disappeared and so the nix family has tried to get it back uh they

00:27:29.080 actually they're actually in litigation right now they sued the government the government made a

00:27:33.960 motion to dismiss to dismiss the lawsuit and actually the the nix family has survived the motion to

00:27:40.520 dismiss now this is for obviously would prefer to get the the um uh the the film back but if they

00:27:48.680 don't get the film back they'll get damages for having lost it but this is a very important

00:27:53.560 uh film because it's the flip side of the zabruda film he was on the other side of kennedy and closer

00:28:01.480 and well at least that the the they had a close-up that was on close-up but but this this film is um

00:28:07.560 is equally as important as a bruda film because it's just it's the flip side so like when zabruda is

00:28:12.680 blocked by the by the traffic sign well nix's film isn't blocked by that because they're on the

00:28:18.360 opposite side he's in like on the infield there so um and they just learned this past week apparently

00:28:24.920 that when the nix family negotiated some sort of um release with the sixth floor that the attorney

00:28:35.400 representing the nix family was also representing the sixth floor museum so there's a little conflict of

00:28:42.440 interest there but that's definitely a film that um is is really important and uh it uh famously

00:28:49.880 at least allegedly disappeared while is in the hands somewhere between the laboratory that was

00:28:55.320 analyzing it and the house look assassinations committee now when i wrote my book uh the man

00:29:00.360 who killed kennedy the case against lbj i actually got arlen specter who was a chief counsel to the

00:29:06.440 warren commission to admit that the zap rudder film was missing frames uh and that it was not as it

00:29:14.840 appeared nick's film seems to be because he was filming with a zoom lens i think you're right could uh

00:29:20.280 answer the age-old question as to whether president kennedy was shot from the front and the back it's

00:29:26.200 interesting to me that paramount has recently come out with a documentary called what the parkland doctors

00:29:32.680 saw uh multiple doctors say in that stunning documentary uh that they saw wounds in jfk consistent

00:29:41.560 with his being shot from the front and the back but most importantly two things that several doctors

00:29:47.480 say that the wound in his throat was not an exit wound it was an entry wound from the front uh and

00:29:54.520 secondarily that they were all threatened uh by the fbi uh not to discuss anything they had seen uh

00:30:03.080 in the room where the autopsy was performed to me when you add that to the fact that we know definitively

00:30:12.360 that lee harvey oswald had been uh subject to a paraffin test by the dallas police department

00:30:19.400 which did not indicate that he had any nitrate burns no powder burns on his chest his arms his

00:30:25.400 hands or his cheeks indicating that he did not fire a weapon that day perhaps this is why he says

00:30:33.960 when he it's very unlikely they tried him out in public and he says what i am a patsy i didn't i didn't

00:30:41.320 shoot anyone that appears to be telling the truth the warren commission of course telling us that

00:30:46.840 jack ruby had no known association with organized crime which is another fallacy uh he was a button

00:30:55.000 man for the mob in chicago he worked for carlos marcello uh in cuba uh yet another one of the many many

00:31:04.200 falsehoods put forward in this continuing effort larry have you seen anything in the disclosure so far

00:31:11.160 uh that would indicate a larger conspiracy beyond lee harvey oswald definitively well no one is going

00:31:21.080 to be putting anything in writing um that here's how we're going to kill the president um but um so

00:31:28.280 you know we're but we're getting we're getting like the records are like mosaics or pieces in a puzzle

00:31:35.000 and so as you get the puzzle together it begins creating a picture but i want to go back to what

00:31:39.720 you said about the doctors because today's testimony dr dr donald peel curtis testified today he is a very

00:31:47.640 important witness for two things number one he was the third person in the room um when the president

00:31:55.240 was brought into the trauma room uh and he did a cut down on the the right on the left leg but he made

00:32:04.360 some observations about what happened in the er that demonstrates that when people see the parkland

00:32:11.400 movie or the figure or or read the testimony of the parkland doctors that the supporters of the

00:32:18.200 warrant commission say well they were too busy taking care of the president they didn't get a chance

00:32:21.800 to look at his wounds what dr curtis said today he told me it's a couple years ago i'm glad he was

00:32:27.000 able to do it today is that after dr clark pronounced the president dead dr clark was the neurosurgeon

00:32:35.160 he was at the head of the gurney he lifted up the president's head and then explained to the other

00:32:40.760 senior doctors that got the heads of the different departments who were there in on against the wall

00:32:46.360 they weren't treating the doctor but he wanted they weren't treating the president he wanted to explain to

00:32:50.680 them why he was pronouncing why he pronounced the president dead he showed them the wound

00:32:57.960 and described the wound so the idea that the parkland doctors made a mistake when they said that rear of

00:33:04.760 the head was a blowout wound is just not true in this so dr curtis served that purpose today

00:33:10.600 he also goes into great detail about how arlen specter intimidated him and the other doctors and if you

00:33:17.960 have tom i can go through what they did when we come right back with larry snap we're going to talk

00:33:23.000 about that i knew arlen specter he could be very very intimidating we'll be right back this is the stone

00:33:30.760 zone zone with roger stone this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger

00:33:55.000 stone who's sitting in the office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now

00:33:59.560 he's cleaner than anybody in this place now as i treated him very unfairly now get in the zone it's

00:34:07.240 the stone zone here's roger stone and we're back in the stone zone we're talking to lawrence schnapp

00:34:16.200 he's an attorney uh and one of the most prominent figures in the country in the ongoing efforts to

00:34:21.720 declassify and release government documents relating to the assassination of president

00:34:26.760 john f kennedy larry has sued the biden administration and the national archives several

00:34:31.960 times because uh he believes full disclosure of these documents is vital to understanding

00:34:37.720 the events surrounding the assassination and to address the learning questions and conspiracy

00:34:42.840 theories we're very happy to have him today uh when we left off you were talking about uh

00:34:48.920 arlen specter who i knew extremely well actually uh ran his campaign for the u.s senate in

00:34:54.600 pennsylvania had many vigorous arguments over his cockamamie single bullet theory logistically

00:35:01.240 impossible by the way uh over uh cocktails uh but uh you were talking about his intimidating

00:35:08.120 the parkland doctors uh lay it on us okay well first before i get to that um one thing i want to

00:35:13.800 mention dr curtis also said was that um his supervisor dr walker when he when he saw him

00:35:21.240 the monday after the assassination you know they talked about what they had seen in the er

00:35:25.720 and dr walker had told dr curtis that he had saw a temple wound in the right temple and that dr ronald

00:35:33.240 jones had told them that another doctor dr lito porto had actually put his pinky into the wound

00:35:41.160 so there were several doctors who saw evidence of a frontal head wound um and that has been covered

00:35:49.320 up and glossed over anyway going to the arlen specter so the first thing went went up when

00:35:54.760 early earl warren gets to uh decide how to conduct the uh investigation he instructs to all the lawyers

00:36:01.640 that the preliminary interviews are to be not recorded this was a way that they can basically find out

00:36:08.120 who the good witnesses were and the bad witnesses were and then once they do get they find out you

00:36:13.560 know they can select the good ones and then when they would go interview them they would go off the

00:36:18.120 record if the witness went off off the reservation or other tools and ways of intimidating um the

00:36:24.840 witnesses one of them also was a perjury trap where um the fbi for example would take testimony down

00:36:31.960 on the three or two forms and then they would change they would alter the the testimony and ask

00:36:38.440 the person to sign the form and say well if you but then within they would object to the statement

00:36:43.640 i said well you know lying to a federal officer is a felony so if you know if you're this is the

00:36:49.480 statement you you gave if you're telling us now the statement that's on paper is wrong you're

00:36:53.880 potentially going to be liable for felony you know the drill roger yes yes unfortunately i i certainly do

00:37:01.960 well as you know warren earl warren the chief justice did not want to chair this commission

00:37:06.440 uh he was trying to get out of it until lyndon johnson implied to him uh that the russians had been

00:37:13.080 involved in the assassination of john f kennedy and that it was earl warren's duty to chair the commission

00:37:18.120 in order to avoid world war three of course we've seen no evidence whatsoever that the russians or the cubans

00:37:24.040 uh the cuban government was involved in the murder of john f kennedy uh this is a this is uh uh this is

00:37:32.280 a modern mystery murder mystery in which the american people are still extraordinarily uh i think

00:37:38.920 intrigued i give huge credit to anna polina luna the congresswoman from florida chairing this task 0.63

00:37:45.080 force and also to you larry you've been helpful to the committee with your knowledge i appreciate your

00:37:50.280 joining us today in the stone zone uh many many thanks to you for joining us uh and for our

00:37:56.680 listeners out there until we meet again and we're going to continue to cover this kennedy assassination

00:38:02.840 story because i think there are more twists and turns from the committee uh until we meet again god

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