The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 06-04-26


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Breaking news from Capitol Hill on the Save America Act, and the massive amount of votes still to be counted in the California primary, including mail-in ballots, and why they should not be counted. And why the Democrats are responsible for this.

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00:00:30.780 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative.
00:00:34.740 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:37.940 Breaking news.
00:00:40.080 And I'm Jake Novak in for Roger Stone this evening on the Stone Zone.
00:00:44.380 And we got some breaking news just in the last hour or so from Capitol Hill.
00:00:49.120 It's not good news, in my opinion.
00:00:51.040 The Senate failing to attach the Save America Act.
00:00:55.320 so desperately needed in this country, failing to attach it to the budget reconciliation bills.
00:01:01.820 Listen to this.
00:01:02.520 Both the yeas are 48. 0.97
00:01:04.680 The nays are 53 fifths of the senators duly chosen and sworn not having voted in the affirmative.
00:01:11.040 The motion is not agreed to. 0.98
00:01:13.460 The point of order is sustained and the amendment fails.
00:01:17.120 So every Democrat voting against the save act and for Republicans, Tom Tillis,
00:01:23.880 the Republican who's now basically caucusing with the Democrats very often just to spite
00:01:29.620 President Trump and his own voters.
00:01:33.740 Linda Murkowski, the Republican from Arkansas, who often votes against the interests of this country.
00:01:39.840 Mitch McConnell, the Republican from Kentucky, who is also bitter
00:01:43.100 and angry that he's not the power broker in the Republican Party
00:01:48.700 and it's people who support President Trump.
00:01:50.480 and and susan collins of maine that yeah that that right-wing fanatic that the democrats are 0.98
00:01:59.040 demonizing to justify their support for a nazi and a communist and a abuser of women we found
00:02:07.140 out today more specifically in a physical way not just in a verbal way that would be graham platner
00:02:13.300 we'll talk a lot about him later in this program but there you have it and uh you know it's amazing
00:02:20.000 that this happens, even as we are looking right now in real time at the desperate need
00:02:26.980 for the SAVE Act, because here we are two days after Election Day in California, and
00:02:34.480 we still have massive amounts of the vote left to count in this gubernatorial primary
00:02:41.060 and in this mayoral primary in Los Angeles.
00:02:45.580 as i'm speaking to you right now only 66 percent of the vote has been counted in the mayoral primary
00:02:55.460 the positions in the primary are still the same karen bassey incumbent mayor still ahead
00:03:01.180 in first place spencer pratt still in second and he has a six percentage point lead over nithia
00:03:07.600 raman and you never know what's going to happen with that remaining 33 of the vote do you could
00:03:14.720 We've had vote dumps today of over 20,000 votes coming in with not one for Spencer Pratt, which is just not normal if they were being gathered normally.
00:03:25.580 These could be these are most obviously ballot harvested ballots, which shouldn't be allowed.
00:03:30.900 I'll talk a little bit about mail-in ballots in just a second, the very nature of them.
00:03:35.060 But just to specifically talk about what we're dealing with in California.
00:03:39.020 I mean, it's very possible that Spencer Pratt will be pushed into third place and out of the general election in November.
00:03:44.720 by the shenanigans and that remaining amount of votes that they're counting.
00:03:50.020 And who knows how they're ginning up these ballots.
00:03:52.300 Who knows where they're coming from and who knows how honest they are.
00:03:57.120 In the gubernatorial primary, Steve Hilton still has the lead
00:04:00.560 by about 1.3 percentage points over Xavier Becerra.
00:04:06.900 But they've only counted 58% of the votes there.
00:04:10.220 Well, after all, it's a whole city. It's all state.
00:04:12.080 They got it. I mean, the whole thing is just so embarrassing.
00:04:17.060 And the Democrats are responsible for this.
00:04:20.700 This is classic. Wait to see what the overnight vote, the actual day of the election vote numbers are,
00:04:27.340 and then decide how many of the harvested ballots you have in a warehouse somewhere you're going to unearth.
00:04:33.180 How much you're going to risk if it's, you know, is it too much to overcome?
00:04:37.040 Are you going to empty all the warehouses? Are you going to, I mean, what are you going to do?
00:04:40.280 by the way this method of winning elections was used very brilliantly by lyndon b johnson when
00:04:48.180 he first ran for the senate in the primary in texas there in that time the democrats really
00:04:54.200 the only party there he just needed to win the democrat primary which he did with ballots that
00:04:59.140 came out from nowhere the next day after the election or days after the election and not only
00:05:04.720 were there ballots just enough for him to win but they all came in alphabetical order you can look
00:05:09.980 it up read robert caro's great books about lyndon b johnson folks this is not acceptable in america
00:05:16.540 it has so many more connotations than just the fact that democrats are winning and horrible
00:05:21.420 horrible states people like karen bass and xavier becerra are likely to win elections because of
00:05:28.000 this or at least get a chance to win elections because of this that's that's the immediate
00:05:31.420 problem the long-term problem is we are now breeding generation after generation of americans
00:05:39.140 and rightfully so who don't trust the process and when you have a society that doesn't trust
00:05:45.760 the voting process you got a big problem on your hands you have a huge problem on your hands
00:05:52.300 now i want to say something about mail-in ballots because this is the crux of the problem here we're
00:05:57.840 talking about mail-in ballots i know that there have been a lot of conspiracy theories and
00:06:02.440 questions about some of these voting machines and the voting tabulation and i can understand
00:06:07.600 the problems with that and the fears over that i get it but those are hard to prove
00:06:14.440 as is trying to prove that they've just brought up a bunch of people out of nowhere although
00:06:22.040 that's getting easier to prove even with mail-in ballots but here's the problem with mail-in
00:06:26.100 ballots and why we shouldn't even be having this debate about fraud because whether they're
00:06:31.960 fraudulent or not please say it with me and for those of you who are social media warriors
00:06:37.100 who go on Facebook or X or any one of the other platforms,
00:06:41.240 True Social, whatever, and get into arguments with people.
00:06:43.640 Maybe you travel over to Blue Sky.
00:06:46.120 I want you to remember this argument
00:06:47.620 because when you know more of your history
00:06:50.360 and you also think logically,
00:06:51.980 you're going to win more debates,
00:06:53.260 or at least you'll realize that you're not debating
00:06:55.080 someone who's not worth debating.
00:06:56.980 So I want you to all say this with me
00:06:58.680 if you don't already know it,
00:06:59.700 and just listen to it if you don't already know it.
00:07:02.460 Mail-in ballots are not secret ballots.
00:07:05.520 I'll say it again.
00:07:07.100 mail-in ballots are not secret ballots.
00:07:13.340 Even if the person filling out that mail-in ballot
00:07:15.700 is the person who's supposed to be filling it out.
00:07:18.880 I don't know whether he or she is doing that alone.
00:07:22.220 I don't know if I'm dealing with the wife
00:07:23.920 who's being domestically abused and pressured by the husband
00:07:26.420 or the boyfriend to fill in a ballot in a certain way.
00:07:30.280 I don't know if somebody else is filling it out for them.
00:07:34.260 I don't know who's seeing it when they put it in the mail
00:07:37.080 And maybe somebody, you know, somebody looks at it and says, oh, I know that woman.
00:07:41.860 That's my that's my mom or that's my cousin.
00:07:43.920 And they've always vote for one part. I'm throwing this in the garbage. 0.98
00:07:48.620 Secret ballots are necessary for an election to be legitimate. 0.87
00:07:53.000 And we have a history of a problem with this in this country.
00:07:59.020 After Reconstruction was over in the South and they were having more open elections in the South and the Democrats were allowed to run again,
00:08:06.440 the elections used to be held very publicly
00:08:08.640 and there was a box for you to drop your
00:08:10.560 Democrat ballot in and a box for you
00:08:12.580 to drop your Republican ballot in
00:08:14.000 and they often voted at your place of work
00:08:16.340 and if you put your ballot in the
00:08:18.480 Republican box you probably lost your job
00:08:20.480 or got your head beat in
00:08:21.600 that's just one example of why
00:08:24.340 if you don't have a secret ballot it's not
00:08:26.440 legitimate
00:08:26.860 because it's not
00:08:28.840 secret ballots are necessary for elections
00:08:34.240 to be legitimate for us to know that the person
00:08:36.360 at least has some confidence that their vote is not going to be they're not going to be face
00:08:41.760 retribution for their vote that they can keep some professional and personal privacy involved
00:08:47.560 i don't like mail and ballots period i don't think we should have absentee voting in america
00:08:55.960 for anyone other than our soldiers stationed overseas maybe some of our diplomats stationed
00:09:01.420 overseas and for that's relatively small number of people because it's not that much when you
00:09:05.620 think about it, especially when you spread it out state by state, they can vote on a secure laptop
00:09:10.440 at their facility, at their embassy, at the consulate or at their base. And if they're
00:09:14.380 literally in a forward position in a battlefield right now, then voting isn't really their top
00:09:19.600 priority. Staying alive is their top priority. And we'll worry about that later.
00:09:26.360 Mail-in ballots are not secret ballots. They are not legitimate. No legitimate society should be
00:09:31.780 using mail-in ballots in any numbers at all, period. So don't go online and don't argue with
00:09:39.440 your lefty friends or non-friends on Facebook or X or anywhere else and talk about how mail-in
00:09:44.620 ballots are fraud and the Democrats are ballot harvesting. They've heard those arguments before
00:09:49.340 and all they have to do is say, well, there's no proof. I'm going to give you a gift. I don't need
00:09:55.620 to have a court case or evidence of actual people doing X, Y, or Z to prove the absolutely objective
00:10:02.680 truth that mail-in ballots are not secret ballots and they should not be used. What's going on in
00:10:08.400 California right now, a huge percentage of votes are not secret ballots. In the 2020 presidential
00:10:14.320 election, a huge percentage of the votes were not secret ballots. These are not legitimate in any
00:10:19.620 decent understanding society. And it's got nothing to do with how advanced that society is
00:10:25.220 technologically i'm hearing a lot of people saying like well what are we like some third
00:10:28.440 world banana republic we can't count ballots uh in in a few hours that's not the argument the
00:10:34.400 argument is no matter how small or technologically advanced or not your country is you shouldn't be
00:10:40.860 using mail-in ballots because they are not secret ballots and if the republicans have any brains
00:10:46.820 they will take my advice and film a commercial with the guy in a wife beater t-shirt standing
00:10:52.940 over a woman in a in a poor in a cold water flat you know a poor neighborhood standing over her 0.74
00:10:58.940 and forcing her to fill in a ballot the way he wants to with his back hand about to slap her
00:11:03.580 across the face that will get the message across and then do a time machine let's go back to 1882
00:11:08.360 and the local election in tennessee and somebody wants to vote for the republican and he and his
00:11:13.560 boss is looking over him as he puts his uh ballot into the republican box and and and the next thing
00:11:18.540 he knows he's out of a job mail-in ballots are not secret ballots period all right there's a lot
00:11:27.500 more to get to here on the stone zone i'm jake novak in for roger stone we're going to talk
00:11:31.180 graham platner we're going to talk this john bolton thing and i'd like to get to your calls
00:11:35.700 by the end of the hour 800-848-9222 i'm trying to get to a couple of them i'm jake novak again
00:11:42.660 roger stone out this evening very grateful for this opportunity we're going to be right back
00:11:47.720 the stone zone entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network
00:11:55.440 breaking news and i'm jake novak in for roger stone i have even more breaking news for you
00:12:03.080 and this is really breaking news especially if you're someone who follows uh the financial
00:12:08.320 newspapers and websites for your news because they haven't reported it yet even though it
00:12:12.320 happened a few hours ago a boeing dreamliner a new one had only been in service for about six
00:12:18.760 months the front end of a boeing dreamliner on the tarmac in frankfurt collapsed fell to the ground
00:12:26.860 injuring the crew members thankfully there were no people aboard no passengers there were people
00:12:31.900 there were crew members crew members are people don't get on me please don't tweet me on that
00:12:35.680 crew several crew members were injured thankfully no passengers were on board
00:12:40.660 uh but another developing story coming out of this and i'm sorry this is from
00:12:45.480 my more than 30 years in journalism and tv and radio journalism i have to say this
00:12:50.260 it's not being reported in the financial newspapers it's not on the wall street journal
00:12:54.920 website it's not on the cnbc website and boy the cnbc website if you have that app they break in
00:13:00.860 over every little thing that's got nothing to do with financial news or at least not directly
00:13:03.960 uh the latest redistricting thing they're constantly breaking in on that they break in
00:13:08.320 They put a big red banner on things.
00:13:11.180 Boeing is a Dow component, meaning a significant move in Boeing one way or the other
00:13:16.440 can move the entire market, okay?
00:13:20.220 But it's not on CNBC.
00:13:21.900 It's not on Wall Street Journal.
00:13:23.820 This is a huge, huge company for America and a huge company for investors.
00:13:27.800 And so that's my only explanation for why Boeing shares right now
00:13:30.840 and aftermarket trading are only down 17 cents a share, 0.08%.
00:13:36.520 To me, that makes no sense.
00:13:38.020 Sometimes when there's a technical problem on a plane, a door blows open, or it turns out it's not the fault of the company. 0.95
00:13:45.280 Somebody opened it, some moron mechanic made a mistake, that kind of thing. 0.98
00:13:49.120 There's not a lot of moron mechanics, thank God. 0.99
00:13:52.580 A passenger does something crazy. 0.99
00:13:54.600 This one, I don't see how this isn't Boeing's problem.
00:13:57.540 I don't see how the front end of a relatively new Dreamliner collapses off the rest of the plane to the tarmac, injuring people.
00:14:05.240 I don't see how this isn't a structural issue with Boeing.
00:14:08.880 And by the way, there are a lot of people
00:14:10.020 who have been whistleblowing at Boeing for years now
00:14:12.320 about some of the people working there
00:14:14.280 not being properly hired.
00:14:16.380 That could be a topic of an entirely different show.
00:14:20.140 But I don't know, if you're a day trader,
00:14:22.060 a stock trader right now,
00:14:23.520 you might want to put a put option
00:14:25.040 or short Boeing stock right now
00:14:27.300 because when this story actually does get reported
00:14:29.180 in the journal and CNBC websites overnight,
00:14:31.860 when they finally do it, bad job.
00:14:33.420 And I used to work at CNBC.
00:14:34.900 I look at stuff that's on that app every single day
00:14:37.660 I'm like, what is this doing here?
00:14:40.440 It's like MS Now type content,
00:14:42.500 which I think that they are using
00:14:43.580 because they're part of the same company now.
00:14:45.980 NBC, Comcast, NBC spun them off.
00:14:49.420 I mean, this is a Dow component
00:14:50.620 that has had a major, major problem.
00:14:52.960 And there's not one thing about it on the CNBC app
00:14:55.440 and not one thing about it on the Wall Street Journal yet.
00:14:57.680 What are they doing?
00:14:59.220 What are they doing over there?
00:15:01.360 This isn't partisan.
00:15:02.500 I'm making a partisan comment here.
00:15:03.880 I'm talking about business.
00:15:05.700 You're bad at this.
00:15:06.840 if you don't get it.
00:15:09.600 I want to talk about Graham Plattner
00:15:11.080 because this is also a breaking story.
00:15:13.100 Just in the last few hours,
00:15:15.020 the New York Times coming out
00:15:16.140 with more accusations about Graham Plattner.
00:15:18.080 Also, bad job by the New York Times
00:15:19.600 in the way that they did this story.
00:15:21.920 Actually, one of his ex-girlfriends
00:15:23.320 is accusing him of physical assault.
00:15:26.560 But they bury it deep in the article
00:15:28.520 and then in the headlines,
00:15:29.540 in the sub-headlines,
00:15:30.320 they refer to it as, you know,
00:15:32.080 disturbing behavior.
00:15:33.520 No, it's sexual assault. 0.95
00:15:34.680 and if you darn believe it was a republican or somebody other than a senator a senate candidate 0.86
00:15:40.840 for the democrats they would have used that terminology so naturally some real journalists
00:15:46.600 are asking members of congress democrats if they still support this guy now if you follow me on
00:15:52.080 social media and i urge you to do so on x is my most active account at jake jake ny two jakes
00:15:58.060 at jake jake ny you'll know that for a few days i've been telling you that the dnc has given out
00:16:03.460 the talking points to anyone who's asked any democrat member of congress who's asked on the
00:16:07.980 street about graham plattner or in the halls of congress they should say they're not following
00:16:12.040 the story which is a total bs lie and it's an embarrassing one at that no one believes that
00:16:16.420 you haven't it's a huge story you're telling me you haven't followed it give me a break
00:16:19.540 but aoc just tried that line a couple of hours ago here she is being asked about the latest
00:16:26.180 accusations the democrats abandoned graham plattner after these messages came out these
00:16:31.160 sexually explicit messages they sent to women you know i haven't waited into that primary i don't
00:16:37.500 believe the primary is has occurred yet um so i i will kind of you know again i i don't wait in
00:16:45.020 on that i haven't waited on that right i don't know hey she's not alone i'll play you some more
00:16:50.660 sound from that and when we come back i'm not only going to play you some more duplicitous
00:16:55.020 disingenuous members of congress following that same baloney line but i'm going to ask you a
00:17:00.700 question all of you listening right now are you ready to rightfully make graham platner the
00:17:08.560 millstone around the democrats neck that it belongs to be that it should be do you have the
00:17:13.960 energy for it because you might think you do but remember the democrats have set the standard the
00:17:19.280 very high for hysterical reactions to things this isn't hysterical you should be ready we'll be right
00:17:30.700 the stone zone entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network
00:17:43.280 and i'm jake novak in for roger stone this evening on the stone zone thank you so much
00:17:48.380 for giving me the opportunity you know we ask an incorrect question in america how many times
00:17:53.980 have you been at a cocktail party sat in a classroom spoken with your friends and the
00:17:58.880 phrase something along the lines of why can't we get better people to run for office in America
00:18:03.700 how often does that spring up for me very often I'm sure for a lot of you that is a familiar
00:18:09.040 phrase you've heard and you know we're asking the wrong thing if you really understand our
00:18:15.180 political culture in this country the question we should be asking is is there anything about
00:18:22.240 our political culture that isn't a magnet that isn't attracting horrible people our latest
00:18:28.480 exhibit is this graham platner of maine a rich kid silver spoon kid growing up his whole life
00:18:35.360 now with a phony job they call him an oyster farmer turns out his only customer is his mother
00:18:40.580 yes he joined the marines and fought i i i assume he he had a decent record in the military
00:18:48.560 but someone who has not just a nazi tattoo but a totenkov ss tattoo that was the division
00:18:55.240 of the ss that ran the death camps also the death the the division of the ss that lined up my
00:19:03.360 relatives and shot them in lithuania lithuanian and russian jews didn't and ukrainian jews didn't
00:19:08.080 get the chance to survive auschwitz they were just lined up and shot june of 1941
00:19:13.840 and we know that he lied about the meaning of the tattoo he boasted about it in the past etc etc
00:19:21.540 And yet, with all those factors already out there for several weeks about him, and really months, top Democrats, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, openly endorsing him.
00:19:39.240 and now today just in the last couple of hours a story in the New York Times doing a bad
00:19:47.000 journalistic job of not hyping up their own work with several of the women who had dated and had
00:19:52.380 been associated with Graham Plattner talking about assault no not battery didn't no one is saying
00:19:58.620 that he punched them in the head or raped them but assault physically stopping them from getting out
00:20:03.320 of a room touching them in other ways and also acting in a verbal committing verbal threatening 0.58
00:20:10.040 verbal harassment and yet as you just heard from aoc you have a bunch of democrats who are going
00:20:18.360 to play the i haven't heard anything about i really looked at this well that's bad enough 0.68
00:20:23.480 because that's just a blatant lie but then you got people like chris coons democrat senator 0.91
00:20:28.660 who is deciding not to play dumb he's just playingly playing morally bankrupt listen to this 0.57
00:20:34.980 and you know frankly mr platner is a four-term excuse me four-tour a combat veteran and someone
00:20:44.040 whose conduct as he came home from war many have questioned i don't know him and don't know him at
00:20:49.920 all well but i'm going to give him a measure of grace and wait until i get a chance to hear more
00:20:56.020 about the details of all these different allegations um in my view the folks who uh we
00:21:01.160 have here in the senate and who we might have here in the senate we should hold a high standards
00:21:05.280 oh you're going to give him a measure of grace uh that's nice here's elizabeth warren she was
00:21:13.480 asked about it just now here's what she had to say are you worried about war coming out about
00:21:17.480 his past that could damage his chances what i'm worried about is another day of war in iran
00:21:23.480 are these accusations disturbing to you what is disturbing to me is what's happening in this
00:21:30.980 economy and how right now the republicans just sign off on it why don't people laugh why don't
00:21:37.600 members of the of the of the of the press corps laugh when they're doing these impromptu news
00:21:42.460 conferences and people act like this this is laughable she should be laughed at when she
00:21:47.620 clearly dodges a question like this here's her fellow senator from massachusetts ed markey listen 0.75
00:21:52.640 to this before we go senator i have to ask you about embattled main senate candidate grant
00:21:57.280 platner he met with democrats in dc yesterday will you endorse his campaign um i know that he
00:22:06.080 is out and he is campaigning on kitchen table issues uh i know that he is uh opposed to uh
00:22:14.120 this slush fund which uh donald trump is putting together uh he's putting affordability front and
00:22:20.780 center uh for the voters of maine uh to decide this race uh and i think that he has uh the right
00:22:29.020 issues uh to be focusing upon uh this year and he just goes on and on like this doesn't answer the
00:22:34.840 question and he does get a follow-up but not much of a follow-up after that here's roqana the great
00:22:40.940 roqana who read out names from the epstein files on the on the floor of the house and it turned out
00:22:47.280 four of the people he named were not involved at all they were actually people who showed up in a
00:22:51.800 police lineup just so the people could identify the real suspects the great the great moral
00:22:56.160 paragon behold our moral betters here's rokhana responding to this and i know you know this photo
00:23:02.920 that everyone's seen which is everywhere of him in the towel as i understand it that's from the
00:23:08.180 kick uh social media website which is mostly teenagers that are on that did you ask him
00:23:15.360 about that issue? Why he's posting those pictures on a social media platform that is mostly
00:23:21.680 teens and young people? I did ask if there are any credible allegations of assault,
00:23:30.440 of domestic violence, of rape, of having any inappropriate relationship with a minor. And I
00:23:38.720 made it clear that for me uh is a red line and he said no there is not now obviously uh he had
00:23:46.260 uh texts that were uh allegedly consensual and while he was married and that's a matter for him
00:23:52.960 and his wife and his wife came out and said that she forgave him and and so that so the guy who
00:23:59.360 read off the innocent names of people that were happened to be in the epstein files even though
00:24:03.540 they were innocent that has no problem with all this and no problem with the totem cough tattoo
00:24:08.260 All that stuff was out there before. Now, not to be outdone. You don't have to just look at
00:24:13.740 members of Congress. What are the ladies of The View have to say about this? They're supposed 1.00
00:24:17.260 to be the great defenders of women and women's safety and against toxic masculinity. Here they
00:24:24.060 are talking about how, well, here's what they say. They don't have to run this guy. If Graham
00:24:29.740 Plattner drops out by July 13th, they can replace him with another candidate. I would like to posit
00:24:34.540 it a name? Jared Golden. He was a two term House member in Maine. He was a conservative blue collar
00:24:39.920 guy, military veteran, somebody who was widely popular in the state. He won in a Republican
00:24:44.860 leaning district. This is somebody they could put on the ballot who also, by the way, worked for
00:24:49.040 Susan Collins, but then decided that he skewed more left. That's somebody with you just said
00:24:54.560 they'd have to. Interrupting right now is Kara Swisher. She is a tech reporter, used to be 0.95
00:24:59.200 a respected tech reporter. She has a very, very severe case of Trump derangement syndrome. So
00:25:04.380 much so that she goes public on on an interview shows to talk about how she berates her elderly
00:25:09.260 mother over it what a lovely person she must be this is her as a guest on the view interrupting
00:25:14.440 that very very logical alternative that was just placed in front of the the crew there on the view
00:25:21.840 let's go with somebody else but kara swisher this is what she has to say it would be the party and
00:25:27.040 i don't like that are they in charge no the people like it's the same thing well democrats do tend to 0.98
00:25:31.680 decide who their nominees are shouldn't like here's the thing when mom donnie won a lot of
00:25:36.060 people like young people should vote young people should vote and then mom donnie wins and they go
00:25:39.640 well they shouldn't vote like that like i'm sorry i'm so sorry but just so deeply uncomfortable
00:25:45.120 with the fact oh so the people voted for him that's why we should i mean honestly first of
00:25:49.620 all no one's voted for him yet by the way that primary hasn't happened now he's running basically
00:25:54.960 unopposed because janet mills the governor of maine who was running against him in the democrat
00:25:59.880 party suspended her campaign and now there's of course a chance that she'll bring it back
00:26:03.900 she'll come back online we'll see what happens but by the way no one's voted for him yet this is all
00:26:12.080 this is all the polls this is all opinion polls which by the way in the last 24 hours have swung
00:26:18.640 very rapidly towards susan collins in this race he had a nine point lead just a couple of days
00:26:24.040 ago in the last poll before that now we saw something where he's within uh the margin of
00:26:28.520 error. He's only have the margin of error. So there's that going for the people who want to
00:26:32.640 get rid of this guy. But I have a challenge for you, and I want you to call me on this if you're
00:26:37.540 ready for it. 800-848-9222. Grant Plattner should be the millstone around every Democrat,
00:26:49.000 just like the Democrats tried to make the very fine people hoax against Donald Trump,
00:26:53.740 the millstone around him and anyone who voted for him. As you know, that was a hoax.
00:26:57.160 he said very clearly that he was not talking about the neo-nazis and the klansmen and yet
00:27:02.060 they cut that out of every clip that they put on on all the major news programs including 60
00:27:06.740 minutes and everyone else they all lied they all lied but this is real this is a guy who's proud
00:27:14.020 of his ss tattoo this is a guy who is proud was was proud and seems to still be proud he's 0.86
00:27:19.780 pretending he's not a blaming women who are rape victims for their own rapes this is a guy with 0.97
00:27:25.520 really, really disturbing behavior, goes on a website known for older men trolling underage 0.93
00:27:33.900 girls and posts sexy pictures of himself. Are you ready to really do this, listeners,
00:27:44.420 if you're Republicans or Trump supporters or just supporters of decency in America? Are you ready
00:27:49.280 to confront every Democrat other than John Fetterman and the few other Democrats who've
00:27:53.400 said i'm not supporting this guy are you ready to say for the rest of their lives in politics
00:27:57.340 but why did you support graham plattner or why didn't you stand up against him i'd love to hear
00:28:02.440 about your plan for health care but i don't know if i can vote for you because you're a plattner
00:28:07.300 person we need to very fine people hoax every one of these democrats not just the ones who
00:28:13.960 i just played for you on the tape are you ready america tell me if you are 800-848-9222 because
00:28:19.920 i don't know if you are because most republicans i know don't drop everything to go protest every
00:28:26.440 five seconds you know why because we work for a living we have families we can't be professional
00:28:30.680 protesters like they are at delaney hall and getting paid whatever amount of money and getting
00:28:34.720 supplies we can't just drop everything when we're trying to make our lives and ends meet and pay our
00:28:40.200 bills during covid lockdowns and do george floyd riots when everyone else was told you can't go out
00:28:45.260 in public, because you'll get the disease. But this is an easy one, folks. You don't have to
00:28:53.640 do that. You don't have to drop work and go to Graham Plattner's house on his oyster farm paid
00:28:58.540 for by his mommy. You don't have to take the day off. But if you're on social media, if you talk
00:29:05.720 to friends, you can say, listen, I was thinking about voting for maybe some Democrats, but I
00:29:10.840 can't vote for a party that would nominate this guy. I can't vote for a party where almost every
00:29:15.080 major leader including the senior leader of their party the senate minority leader chuck schumer is
00:29:19.880 endorsing a guy like this can't do it sorry just like they said to you over the very fine people
00:29:25.240 hoax which was a lie over the drink bleach which which was a lie this is real you can feel real
00:29:33.320 good about standing up on this one this is the i posted this on my again i urge you to follow my
00:29:39.580 x account because this is where a lot of these quick little tools you can use and put in your
00:29:44.120 toolbox i feel free to use them you don't even need to quote me but as i posted on my x account
00:29:50.460 at jake jake ny earlier tonight this is the easiest litmus test in the history of politics
00:29:56.000 that i've ever seen all you got to do is not endorse graham plattner all you got to do is say
00:30:01.900 i want you know pretend you're a democrat in congress or democrat leader i want to win the
00:30:05.920 congress back i want to have the democrats be but i can't support this guy we're going to get
00:30:10.000 someone else how hard is that to do it's so easy it'll boost your poll numbers you'll get donations
00:30:17.060 from real people and not foreign enemies of the united states like neville singham and george
00:30:21.880 soros if you do this and they won't do it they won't do it this isn't like a situation where oh
00:30:30.220 my goodness uh let's say you were a republican all those years ago and you believe the very
00:30:34.840 fine people hoax let's say you believe that and then you're in a quandary are you going to speak
00:30:38.800 up against your sitting republican president donald trump that's a tough one right this guy
00:30:43.760 hasn't even won a primary yet no one's actually voted for him yet there is nothing to lose if you
00:30:48.920 are a democrat voter or elected leader nothing to lose by denouncing this guy you have everything
00:30:54.480 to gain and nothing to lose and yet they still can't do it why and the answer is the same answer
00:31:04.420 i give to everything that the democrats do which is incredibly head-stretching over the last 10
00:31:08.580 years the supporting of boys and girls locker rooms the supporting of open borders the supporting
00:31:13.300 of emptying our prisons there's only one logical reason for this and that is they are being funded
00:31:19.760 by the enemies of this country our campaign finance laws which were easy to get around for
00:31:24.720 so many years have finally finally been completely completely eliminated basically in in in de facto
00:31:31.840 eliminated via act blue via the internet via bitcoin whatever it is it is now easy for our
00:31:38.180 enemies to finance our elections and they are and that is why you have so many democrats and
00:31:44.660 probably a few republicans who are taking anti-american anti-civil society positions
00:31:50.240 that will get them no real votes among real people
00:31:52.680 and that's what we're dealing with right now but i ask you are you ready i know you're busy i know
00:32:00.940 that especially conservative republicans you you have families you have jobs but are you ready to
00:32:07.020 make this Graham Plattner issue, as I've laid it out to you, completely factual and completely
00:32:10.700 objectively, are you ready to make this the issue of our time right now? The Democratic leadership
00:32:18.640 in what would be the easiest thing in the world to do is not abandoning him yet. They might tomorrow,
00:32:24.440 but only after way too late to do so. And it would be too late. Even if they abandon him
00:32:31.360 tomorrow, don't let them get away with this. This is a real very fine people hoax. This is real.
00:32:37.020 and the Democrats aren't passing this easy test.
00:32:42.800 It's as simple as that.
00:32:45.740 Again, if you're ready to do this or not, let me know.
00:32:51.140 800-848-9222.
00:32:52.940 We're going to come back.
00:32:53.680 I want to talk a little bit more about this and also the news today,
00:32:57.480 the real story that I think is really the story connected to this John Bolton plea deal.
00:33:02.560 It's not exactly what you think.
00:33:04.160 in some ways there's a lot of good that could come out of this plea deal and i'd like to talk
00:33:10.460 about that as well we'll be right back here on the stone zone i'm jake novak and for roger stone
00:33:13.820 thanks for joining us the stone zone entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network
00:33:21.320 and i'm jake novak filling in for roger stone this evening thank you so much for the opportunity
00:33:26.700 uh another big story today is that john bolton is going to plead guilty to the mishandling of
00:33:32.540 classified documents. We've heard so many cases like this. We know the one I think was mostly
00:33:38.080 bogus presented against President Trump. He had them in a secure place in safes in a difficult
00:33:45.260 place to break into, to say the least, Mar-a-Lago. And yet the Biden Justice Department raided his
00:33:51.560 home through all the documents on the floor to make it look like that's how they were being
00:33:56.320 stored, went through Melania's underwear drawer. We know the story. We know the story of Joe Biden
00:34:02.120 having classified documents literally just in his garage there no real protection there although
00:34:07.860 i'm sure it's not that easy to break into break it was to break into his home either but still
00:34:11.780 the issue with the john bolton thing is first the hypocrisy here's john bolton speaking out
00:34:17.920 after the mar-a-lago raid or speaking about the mar-a-lago raid uh and so i think a lot of these
00:34:23.620 documents he may have just thought were cool a lot of me thought might be souvenirs a lot of me
00:34:28.340 thought might be useful to him later i can't answer the question until i see the document but
00:34:33.760 uh well there are a lot of theories that he could use it as information against his enemies that he
00:34:40.340 could give it to people in exchange for favors we don't know and frankly i don't think speculating 0.69
00:34:46.380 about the reasons is all that helpful all right so he's a hypocrite here's a headline politics 0.99
00:34:53.040 is all about hypocrisy. 0.97
00:34:54.500 It's an essential ingredient of politics.
00:34:57.700 So that's not the big deal here for me.
00:35:01.160 The big deal here for me
00:35:02.400 is that this is politics as usual
00:35:04.460 or culture as usual in D.C.
00:35:06.580 This is the political class
00:35:07.900 believing that things
00:35:09.380 that don't belong to them
00:35:10.500 do belong to them.
00:35:12.600 These classified documents
00:35:14.180 belong to the people
00:35:15.280 of the United States of America.
00:35:17.180 Not to you,
00:35:19.140 members of Congress
00:35:19.960 or members of a cabinet,
00:35:20.960 former cabinet member
00:35:21.800 or former president
00:35:22.760 or former vice president, they don't belong to you.
00:35:26.300 They don't belong to you, to even your own papers,
00:35:29.560 papers that you write while you're sitting at the desk
00:35:31.520 and doing your official work.
00:35:32.900 You don't get to, after you retire from government
00:35:35.180 or when you leave government,
00:35:36.660 donate them, quote unquote, donate to the National Archives
00:35:38.960 and there have been people who've done this
00:35:40.100 and then write it off your taxes
00:35:41.400 based on your inflated value that you give your papers.
00:35:44.140 I mean, how egregious is that?
00:35:46.420 The political class is very much the modern day embodiment
00:35:49.560 of king george iii and the other plutocrats and aristocrats who used us like pawns and that's what
00:35:59.120 led to the beginning of this country you know we've got freedom 250 going on here in this country
00:36:04.100 right now poorly recognized and acknowledged i think right now so far we're almost halfway
00:36:10.240 through the year and we have not seen enough recognition of our 250th birthday nothing like
00:36:15.200 what i remember in 1976 during the bicentennial year and i'm working on that on many of the
00:36:23.040 stations you're listening to this program right now i will be hosting a number of one minute and
00:36:28.100 30 second freedom 250 moments called the decisions that made america and i hope you'll you'll listen
00:36:33.960 to those and enjoy those it isn't just going to be dates in history that's easy i'm going to be
00:36:37.820 doing analysis of the major decisions that happened on particular dates and why they were important
00:36:42.500 but this john bolton thing hopefully will end this this culture as usual in the political class
00:36:50.000 stop taking things that don't belong to you so you can write your book
00:36:53.280 and make money off of what was supposed to be public service i can't stand it when they call
00:36:58.000 these people public service they're nothing of the sort i'm jake novak speak to you soon
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