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00:01:23.420 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:01:27.220 People love him and respect him. Roger Stone.

00:01:30.100 Now, get him his own. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.

00:01:36.120 And I'm Jake Novak, live with you in for Roger Stone this evening.

00:01:40.180 Very much appreciate the opportunity to speak with you.

00:01:42.620 And of course, you heard the breaking news at the top of the hour and probably the last couple hours you've been hearing that the United States has resumed attacks on Iran.

00:01:51.080 In the words of Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, we are, quote, tapping Iran, like tapping them on the shoulder.

00:01:57.620 So this isn't necessarily a punch in the face or a rabbit punch or dropping an anvil on their head. 0.65

00:02:02.920 I'll try to come up with some more Looney Tunes references if I can.

00:02:06.640 But this is not a major whack right now, but it's something.

00:02:11.200 And it may be the biggest since the ceasefire ended of all the what we're calling self-defense attacks, defensive actions that we've done a few times now.

00:02:19.780 sounds like this is kind of the biggest one but certainly not at the level of what we had before

00:02:24.500 the ceasefire in april and you know this is important to keep following it feels like

00:02:30.700 president trump is very publicly and he does almost everything very publicly as you know

00:02:36.120 whether he wants to be or not because he's so public with his thought processes and things

00:02:41.440 like that this is the most accountable president we've ever had in our lifetimes

00:02:46.080 that and the fact that he gets sued every five seconds and challenged on anything he says if

00:02:50.640 he says two plus two is four they will literally sue to say it's five so he's very accountable but

00:02:55.920 uh it's possible that he kind of always knew this conclusion was happening

00:02:59.980 but to the untrained eye uh it just seems like president trump has been very publicly coming

00:03:05.580 to the conclusion that uh you know i guess we can't make a deal with these people we've tried

00:03:10.760 everything we've waited them out we've given them other incentives we've been able to we've 0.86

00:03:16.880 proved that we can stop israel from attacking in certain areas for a few days at least if we want 0.78

00:03:21.220 to and longer if there's a real deal things like that and yet we're still not getting them to sign 0.53

00:03:27.180 on the dotted line and give up what they believe to be their key to sovereignty which is the

00:03:33.060 nuclear material you know you can understand why iran doesn't want to give it up but it doesn't

00:03:37.940 make it any any more or moral that they're not giving it up i mean if they were decent human

00:03:44.260 beings they would be looking at other things anyway but that's certainly not who we're dealing

00:03:48.880 with right now so that's the state of affairs right now gun to my head do i think we're going

00:03:53.880 back to full-on war with the iranians tomorrow or now no and i always as many of you know who

00:04:00.420 listen to this program when i fill in or other programs on these networks you know that i always

00:04:06.240 look to see what the people with skin in the game are telling us. They're not always right,

00:04:11.240 but the oil traders usually have a decent take on what's going to happen next in these kinds of

00:04:16.880 things. And right now we're seeing oil prices go up by $2 a barrel and change. And if they really

00:04:23.760 thought the full-on war was going to start again, we'd be at $8, $9 up on oil. That's just a fact.

00:04:32.160 doesn't mean they're right.

00:04:33.040 They may be wrong.

00:04:34.800 But they have more to lose if they're wrong.

00:04:37.400 So you got to look at what they're saying

00:04:39.220 and what they're doing

00:04:40.040 with the understanding

00:04:41.180 that they have a little bit more

00:04:42.280 of an inside track than you or I have.

00:04:44.320 And that's okay.

00:04:46.120 If you put up the money,

00:04:47.620 you know, you get to have a...

00:04:49.460 Membership has its privileges, you know?

00:04:51.100 You're willing to have your living

00:04:53.140 made on a day's trades one way or the other.

00:04:56.060 You know, I don't begrudge you

00:04:57.740 any extra knowledge

00:04:59.100 that you glean from mining more deeply

00:05:01.360 because you have more riding on it so that's what i would say is where we are right now but spoiler

00:05:07.880 alert you can count me among the people who are going to say there's never going to be a workable

00:05:13.260 deal with iran and it's not because of something in their dna or something racial here or their

00:05:20.660 religion it's got nothing to do with that it's just that that's what this regime has always been

00:05:24.660 set up to do to start wars functionally not not not only in their ideology and it's part of their

00:05:32.960 ideology but also functionally this is how iran functions this regime doesn't know what else to

00:05:38.440 do with itself unless it's funding foreign proxy terrorism funding hezbollah ordering hezbollah

00:05:44.840 around ordering some of their other proxies around like the houthis paying for terrorism

00:05:51.800 using cutter as a third party to help buy influence in this country and boy have they 0.96

00:05:57.280 bought influence you know you turn on the tv every night in this country and look at the

00:06:02.180 mainstream channels and it's like cutter writes the rundowns for these tv stations i used to work

00:06:06.800 at some of them before cutter took them over mostly and i was working in mostly financial

00:06:11.620 news and cutter doesn't bother with that too much but i can tell you that when i was at cnn

00:06:16.500 Back in the early 2000s, man, they were following a narrative that they were getting from a bunch of organizations like CARE. They started sending us emails every day. When people say, oh, that's not true, Jake, I say, you really have to know who you're talking to here. I was there, and I know.

00:06:34.860 but i just don't think that iran this regime is ever going to make a deal that's workable

00:06:42.340 and i think president trump is either very publicly coming to that realization himself

00:06:47.240 or he already already was there a long time ago and he's been playing out this string in the hopes

00:06:52.200 of easing the massive pain of higher gasoline prices which have been going down very steadily

00:06:57.460 now for going on three weeks the national average gasoline price right now is about four dollars and

00:07:02.940 15 cents yes that's still a buck 17 more than it was the day before the war i get it but it's quite

00:07:11.200 a bit down it's about 40 cents down from the high and that's a lot you got a 20 gallon tank you're

00:07:15.800 paying eight bucks less to fill up your tank today that's that's significant okay simple math right

00:07:21.560 there folks nevertheless it's still not where we want to be we've been very fortunate that we've

00:07:28.060 had very small casualty lists only 13 americans and i don't mean only to take anything away from

00:07:32.560 the 13 who died, but you know what I'm talking about. Don't be a nudnik about this. If you don't

00:07:36.520 know what nudnik means, look it up. It's a great Yiddish word. Sometimes foreign words, either an

00:07:40.040 Italian word or a Yiddish word, are just better than an English word. Sometimes even a French word

00:07:43.540 or a French phrase. So don't be a nudnik about this. You know what I mean when I say we've been 0.75

00:07:49.600 lucky to have only 13 dead in this war. You know that I'm not devaluing the 13 who died, but come

00:07:54.680 on. We've been at war with a major military power in this world, one that's a nation that has been

00:07:59.260 focus on military actions and killing people for 40 plus years. We're lucky that we don't

00:08:05.260 have more dead. We just are. Thank God. But it's not where we want to be. We don't want

00:08:12.040 to have to continue this way. But anyone who's blaming the United States for this or anything

00:08:18.360 else like that just doesn't understand the Iranian regime. They just don't. And I think

00:08:26.740 president trump has always understood it maybe he hoped for some type of surprise resolution to this

00:08:31.280 maybe he was hoping for iran's version of admiral donuts for those of you who know the history of

00:08:37.240 the end of nazi germany admiral donuts was someone who kind of took over the military after hitler's

00:08:43.080 death or when he just started to go into the bunker and he wanted to make a peace deal with

00:08:48.020 the united states and rightfully we only accepted uh unconditional surrender and he he went for it

00:08:52.980 You know, good for him.

00:08:54.220 But I don't think there's an Admiral Donuts in the Iranian regime.

00:08:57.180 I just don't.

00:08:59.220 And this is where we are right now.

00:09:03.040 I think that the American people are coming to this realization.

00:09:07.980 You know, I'm looking at what the mainstream media is doing here,

00:09:10.560 and you can see they're trying to walk away a little bit from the attacks on Iran right now.

00:09:16.360 Some of it might be because some of these evening shows on the mainstream channels are taped,

00:09:19.800 which is just unconscionable to me you know you have a nation at war you call yourself a news

00:09:26.860 program what are you taping your evening news programs for exactly weekend i can understand

00:09:32.080 i go live on the weekends myself 5 a.m saturday and sunday and 7 p.m sunday night because i just

00:09:39.500 tape shows by the way are more trouble than they're worth just to give you a little inside

00:09:44.260 baseball about the news business you do a tape show and then if you're in any have you have any

00:09:49.160 conscious in the world you go to sleep that night terrified that some big news story is going to

00:09:52.780 happen that will make your tape show ludicrous i'd rather not and it's called news for a reason

00:09:58.560 but you see they're walking away from this iran story i'm i'm looking at ms now and they're doing

00:10:03.660 an entire main segment about how president trump has low approval ratings well you know that would

00:10:10.920 be interesting if a he were running for re-election which he's not it'd also be more interesting if

00:10:16.340 there was some alternative out there you know i'm not gonna buy any of this stuff about president

00:10:21.920 trump having low approval ratings until there's a leader of the democratic party who has high

00:10:25.320 approval ratings and there isn't one and there isn't any democratic party policy that has high

00:10:31.240 approval ratings either this is just straight up hatred of trump hatred of i woke up on the wrong

00:10:36.620 side of the bed this morning so i'm gonna say i don't like the way the president's doing his job

00:10:39.980 and yada yada yada it's kind of nice to have a president who isn't worried about the polls every

00:10:47.360 day and is trying to stick to the courage of his convictions

00:10:51.500 and doing it very publicly that's the other thing you can have a president who believes in some

00:10:58.980 wacko theories and wacko policies that the people don't support and that wouldn't be good

00:11:03.380 but president trump is telling you what his policy is all the time and while some people

00:11:09.180 say like, well, he's been going back and forth about Iran. I actually don't think he is. He's

00:11:13.020 making it clear every day he wants certain things to be agreed to by Iran, and they're not doing it. 0.62

00:11:17.700 You want to be angry at someone, be angry at Iran for not giving us a clear signal one way or the 0.68

00:11:21.780 other, and not giving in on a very basic thing. Give us the nuclear material. If they've been 0.54

00:11:26.720 willing to do that, there's a lot they could keep. But they haven't been willing to do it.

00:11:32.480 That's not Trump's fault. It really isn't. I'm sorry. I know you want to blame Trump for

00:11:35.720 everything folks some folks out there that's not trump's fault and iran with nuclear weapons

00:11:43.580 either to use them themselves or to give them to other people is not acceptable i don't care 0.65

00:11:46.900 how isolationist you are or how much ran paul or tucker carlson or other crap that you read

00:11:52.220 tells you i'm sorry it's not acceptable it's just not we have something called a jet airplane i

00:11:59.800 know if you've heard of it which makes the world's borders much smaller and the distances in the

00:12:04.520 world much smaller we have other things as well that makes the idea that any country no matter 0.54

00:12:09.160 how many oceans surround it can be isolated from this kind of nonsense it's just ludicrous

00:12:13.200 doesn't mean we have to be involved in every little thing

00:12:15.920 but you know nuclear weapons kind of a red line oh are we invading a country because we don't

00:12:23.600 like their health care policy okay then you have a point but that's not what this is i would love

00:12:29.680 to get you guys to weigh in on this on our second half hour 800-848-9222 is the number i will be

00:12:35.380 taking calls this evening but when we come back i want to get a little bit more domestic myself

00:12:39.280 and talk about so many of the raw nerves this la mayoral election has touched for me and i'm sure

00:12:46.520 many of you are in the same boat and i want to put it into an important historical context for

00:12:51.780 all of you i'm jake novak in for roger stone in the stone zone tonight we'll be right back

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00:17:19.700 Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?

00:17:22.000 Here's Roger Stone.

00:17:24.180 And good evening. I'm Jake Novak with you on this Wednesday night live in for Roger Stone here on the Stone Zone.

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00:17:33.540 like to hear what you have to think about have to say about the renewed attacks on iran anything

00:17:39.820 else going on uh and what i think to me is certainly not an ignored domestic story it's

00:17:46.580 been getting a lot of coverage but i even i don't even think even the people who have been covering

00:17:51.740 it as angrily as you think are putting this in enough perspective this is this la election

00:17:58.220 uh particularly the mayoral primary that was finally basically called uh yesterday

00:18:05.240 for karen bass the winner and uh presumably nithya raman as coming in second place and

00:18:12.420 they'll go up against each other in november and you know bass is going to win that's going to be

00:18:16.500 foregone conclusion and that'll be that um what we know is that the mail-in balloting

00:18:25.200 that changed the result of this election.

00:18:27.820 Spencer Pratt was solidly in second on election night

00:18:31.760 and for a few days after that.

00:18:33.520 We know that the mail-in ballot numbers are just not logical.

00:18:37.900 You can't have someone winning in certain districts

00:18:43.980 where they weren't winning at all before.

00:18:48.100 The argument could be made,

00:18:49.300 well, these mail-in ballots tend to be more Democrats,

00:18:52.060 and these Democrats' votes.

00:18:56.040 So that means the Democrats' votes are going to get boosted to the end.

00:18:58.320 But not for the third-place Democrat.

00:19:01.020 They would be much more in line with the way other Democrats voted on Election Day.

00:19:09.040 And there is proof of the fraud.

00:19:10.940 We have videos of people getting homeless people on Skid Row to sign ballots and that whole thing.

00:19:18.720 This is no small thing. It's not a joke.

00:19:20.960 I don't think most of the people reporting it have been making it a joke, but I don't think that they know how huge this is because we've seen this before in American history.

00:19:29.200 You know, a couple of months ago, I came on this program, also filling in for Roger, and explained to the audience as best I could, explained to you as best as I could, that we are at the bleeding Kansas stage of this sadly developing civil war in our country where we are seeing sporadic violence among citizens.

00:19:49.900 it's a little bit different in that also we're seeing violence among certain groups targeting

00:19:54.460 federal agents like we're seeing these attacks on ice peep on ice agents but for those of you

00:20:00.760 don't know your history pro-slave and anti-slave groups of civilians in kansas were for many years

00:20:07.040 killing each other over the issue and what maybe you don't know even if you've heard of bleeding

00:20:13.840 kansas and you read about it you don't know that maybe you don't know that ballot box stuffing was

00:20:18.580 also part of that conflict.

00:20:23.360 So, to me, this is really scary.

00:20:28.180 Stuffing a ballot box as blatantly as the Democrats have done in this election in Los

00:20:35.020 Angeles to push out Spencer Pratt.

00:20:39.640 And they did it really blatantly.

00:20:41.960 It was ugly.

00:20:42.800 for someone to be crying on election night knowing that she lost that's what nithia raman did

00:20:49.540 and then to have these votes come in inexplicably for her where she was even beating karen bass

00:20:55.460 over and over in these mail dumps and it looks like they had a bunch of harvested

00:21:00.580 harvested ballots ready to go for any one candidate they wanted to boost so for some

00:21:06.120 reason spencer pratt came in first and nithia raman was in second they would have boosted bass

00:21:11.340 or Raman and Bass

00:21:14.180 and if some reason

00:21:15.100 Raman had come in first

00:21:16.900 and Pratt was

00:21:17.460 you know they would have done

00:21:18.260 anything they could

00:21:18.900 to knock out Pratt

00:21:20.060 they would have had the ballots

00:21:21.160 for the candidate

00:21:21.720 who needed it most

00:21:22.660 and of course

00:21:26.540 there's proof of this

00:21:27.380 don't say oh there's no proof

00:21:28.340 yes there is

00:21:29.240 there's videos of it

00:21:30.540 and there's also

00:21:32.660 something called common sense

00:21:34.180 if I

00:21:38.640 and I use this metaphor a lot

00:21:40.040 because it's important

00:21:40.800 to remember if i see someone coughing up blood on the street for minutes at a time i'm gonna say

00:21:48.300 that person needs a doctor needs to go to the hospital and is very sick am i a doctor do i have 0.82

00:21:53.600 a diagnosis of course not once again only a nudnik would bring that up and say well you don't know 0.88

00:22:00.260 that they're sick yeah i do so does anyone with the brain start using your common sense

00:22:06.260 would that work in a court of law am I going to be able to get someone

00:22:10.400 convicted in a court of law over that no but that's this is not a court of law

00:22:14.360 this is a court of just the world and common sense

00:22:17.100 and I would like to see the evidence put together for this

00:22:22.480 this is not a joke and I have two more examples to talk

00:22:26.460 to you about again 800-848-9222 want to hear your thoughts

00:22:30.540 on all these stories I'm Jake Novak and for Roger Stone this is the Stone Zone

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00:24:04.800 this is the stone zone now get him a zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell

00:24:16.700 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but

00:24:23.040 people love him and respect him roger stone where's roger stone here's roger stone

00:24:28.600 it's just after 8 30 on the east coast i'm jake novak filling in for roger stone this evening on

00:24:34.360 the Stone Zone. Thank you so much for the opportunity to fill in for him and to talk

00:24:38.440 to you this evening. I was talking about this L.A. vote rigging story and

00:24:42.360 how serious this is because it follows that pattern that I've been

00:24:46.380 talking about for years, really, that we're kind of in the bleeding Kansas stage

00:24:50.140 of our fracture as a nation. We've become violent now

00:24:54.220 amongst each other. I would argue that almost all the violence

00:24:58.220 has been from the left against the right, and the right really isn't retaliating

00:25:02.240 or starting much, but that all, this continues in this way, there will be retaliations. I mean,

00:25:07.600 that's just the human nature. And I wanted to add the fact, based in light of what we've seen

00:25:14.340 in Los Angeles, that while we know, many of you may know, even if you're just a casual historian

00:25:20.100 or student of history, you may know that while there was violence between the pro-slavers and

00:25:25.100 anti-slavers in Kansas and some of the other territories in the United States leading up

00:25:29.160 to the civil war there was also ballot stuffing ballot stuffing was part of the conflict

00:25:34.040 it was a weapon used in the conflict and here we are

00:25:37.160 you know when i hear about ballot stuffing and specifically about the use of homeless people

00:25:44.160 on skid row that's a neighbor that they call that that area in los angeles which has been

00:25:48.440 caught on video but it was also where these mail-in ballots came in predominantly for ramen

00:25:53.780 for Nithya Raman.

00:25:55.640 It reminds me of the story

00:25:57.620 of Edgar Allan Poe.

00:26:00.120 Edgar Allan Poe, the great poet

00:26:01.780 and novelist, one of the

00:26:03.740 great writers in American history.

00:26:07.160 Brilliant

00:26:07.600 person, by the way.

00:26:09.520 A lot of people note that he got into all

00:26:11.660 these great universities and got kicked out.

00:26:13.460 He never got kicked out for being a bad student.

00:26:15.340 He got kicked out for gambling, for other stuff like that.

00:26:17.960 Probably being creepy.

00:26:20.040 All kidding aside,

00:26:22.960 Edgar Allan Poe

00:26:23.760 was like one of those people on Skid Row that we saw in Los Angeles, forced to vote. That's how

00:26:29.520 Edgar Allan Poe died. He was suffering from the effects of rabies, which is, by the way,

00:26:34.960 excruciating, apparently. And instead of getting him help, the Democrats in Baltimore took him on

00:26:40.780 election day and ran him in and out of the ballot box a hundred times. And then they just threw him

00:26:46.120 on the street where he died. Lovely story. But, you know, when you hear about people going to

00:26:51.920 skid row in los angeles and instead of helping these homeless people instead of maybe trying

00:26:57.820 to get them into a program maybe becoming advocates for drug rehab and better mental

00:27:05.280 health care in this country you're just using them as literal fodder almost almost literal

00:27:10.820 fodder to just have them help you balance a ballot stuff and harvest ballots it's it's cruelty in

00:27:19.200 addition to fraud it's real human cruelty how does a person go into a homeless area

00:27:23.720 and just say here's a couple of bucks sign this ballot and then go home how do you do that

00:27:30.260 what kind of person are you

00:27:33.100 i've always wondered about that who who were the people who used edgar allen poe in that way who

00:27:40.760 was in excruciating pain and decided oh here's a guy we can get who won't give us much resistance

00:27:45.640 when we try to get them you know it was called running repeaters in the 19th century used to

00:27:50.140 say repeaters because they would just run them into the ballot the voting booth a hundred times

00:27:54.600 anyway that's what made me think of and then the last personal story is as some of you know i've

00:28:02.220 written about this i wrote an editorial about it for cnbc years ago my great-great-grandfather was

00:28:08.340 a notorious chicago mobster turned politician named morris eller and more is coming out about

00:28:14.140 him now that a lot of the out-of-print papers are now available on the internet we know we know a

00:28:18.460 lot more about my great-grandfather great-great-grandfather Morris Eller than we used

00:28:22.420 to we don't we knew a lot about him though my grand my grandmother was his favorite granddaughter

00:28:27.020 I think person in the whole world so I knew a lot of work about him and he was involved in a lot of

00:28:32.600 vote rigging stuff in Chicago in the early 20th century and one of the more brilliant things he

00:28:40.160 did to influence elections was actually not rig any votes he would kidnap the people from the

00:28:45.980 democratic party he was a republican he would kidnap the people from the democratic party who

00:28:50.800 were looking to stuff the ballot box put them up at a hotel in chicago at gunpoint feed them well

00:28:56.020 and then let them go after election day was over it's actually a brilliant way to quote

00:29:02.060 unquote rig an election just stop the other guys from doing it but uh folks vote rigging happens

00:29:08.700 it's silly to think that it doesn't

00:29:11.680 that was the big argument in America

00:29:13.160 and they're still trying to say

00:29:14.200 well there's no proof in LA

00:29:15.240 yes there is

00:29:15.940 there's proof

00:29:16.440 we have video proof

00:29:17.420 and we also have common sense

00:29:20.820 and if you want to be the noot noot

00:29:24.160 who says

00:29:24.420 well you don't have proof

00:29:25.520 of every single ballot

00:29:26.680 then you know fine

00:29:27.560 then be that person's lawyer in court

00:29:31.000 is there enough evidence

00:29:32.680 to put someone in jail over it

00:29:34.220 in a court of law

00:29:34.960 I don't know

00:29:35.560 but I'm glad that we have

00:29:38.620 higher standards in the courts for that that's fine but we know that this election was stolen

00:29:43.920 and we know that this election involved people with the lowest moral character who the heck

00:29:49.340 goes into skid into skid row in los angeles and says you know i'd like to let me help these people

00:29:53.900 uh no i'm not gonna help them i'm gonna have them uh here's a couple bucks sign a bunch of

00:29:57.700 these ballots here's one for ramen one for bass thank you very much here's two if three whatever

00:30:03.620 however many they did. 0.56

00:30:06.960 Just disgusting stuff.

00:30:10.120 Once again, if you're just joining us

00:30:11.620 and you don't know,

00:30:12.440 the United States has resumed attacks

00:30:14.380 on Iran right now.

00:30:15.600 I don't think this is the big one.

00:30:17.260 I don't think this is back

00:30:18.280 to the major military engagement

00:30:20.980 that we had before the April ceasefire.

00:30:22.720 And we're hearing as much

00:30:23.540 from Pete Hegseth,

00:30:24.320 our Secretary of War,

00:30:25.620 who's saying that we're tapping,

00:30:26.980 quote, tapping Iran,

00:30:27.940 like giving him a tap on the shoulder

00:30:29.120 instead of an anvil on the head.

00:30:30.500 You get the point.

00:30:31.080 tony in clifton new jersey you think the democrats are just after trump um yeah i think that that's

00:30:38.860 really the only thing they believe in that they don't hate they don't like trump so hi jake so

00:30:43.940 what i was going to say though is i think it's more than that i think the democratic party

00:30:48.940 is holding on for dear life i think when you have a president as efficient in business and in

00:30:56.840 politics and in everything is president trump he's someone who has got to get taken out of their way

00:31:04.040 clearly he has done so much jake to straighten out the problems of past presidents and then the

00:31:10.420 four years of biden he's amazing so any president who follows him who can even come close to what

00:31:17.460 he's doing is going to be a threat to them well he's shining he's shining a light on something

00:31:22.720 You know, a lot of this is business as usual in Washington has been disrupted by Trump.

00:31:28.820 So it's not, you know, calling the people who hate Trump leftists, I think, is incorrect.

00:31:33.660 Some of them are.

00:31:34.280 But I think a lot of them are just political class types, which is why there have been a couple of prominent Republicans, not prominent, but Republicans who've also been upended by him or really angered by him because there's a business as usual culture in D.C. that the president's not upholding.

00:31:50.520 he's not letting uh everyone have their little duchies and have their money here and have their

00:31:57.600 privileges there he's really making it clear that everything that they have been enjoying is is going

00:32:03.040 to go away and there are people who are yearning for that old days i'll talk about the republicans

00:32:08.820 first there are members of the republican party who yearn for the era of 2014 to 2016 or in some

00:32:16.320 cases 2010 to 2016 when they were the minority at one point but then then they were majority and

00:32:22.060 half of congress then they got all of congress after the 2014 elections but here's the thing

00:32:26.640 when your party is in charge of congress and the other party has the white house you don't have to

00:32:31.760 do anything you can just be his majesty's loyal opposition and you can get on fox news and you

00:32:37.880 can get on some of these other radio programs and just complain complain complain and not have to

00:32:42.180 do anything and get a bunch of speaking engagements and and make your money doing x y and z it's the

00:32:48.560 life of riley which is why i think a lot of republicans weren't all in on winning the 2016

00:32:53.820 election they would have been fine with losing it most of them the establishment republicans i mean

00:32:58.940 and why i think a lot of people have been had their noses taken out or out of out of joint by

00:33:05.520 president trump and not all of it is everything and not all of it is great policy but it doesn't

00:33:12.100 matter the the the game these people have been playing as in as a political class that thinks

00:33:19.180 that they deserve certain honor honorary you know honorifics and and privileges is just not right

00:33:25.760 it's just not right and you also have a president now and this leads me to the other story which i

00:33:32.160 think is really interesting you have a president now who is not giving corrupt leaders of states

00:33:39.840 that will never vote for him or his party,

00:33:42.100 he's not giving them a pass.

00:33:44.060 Here in New York,

00:33:45.400 President Trump is not giving Kathy Hochul

00:33:47.260 and the Democrats basically saying,

00:33:49.080 you know what, I know this is your state,

00:33:50.320 we'll never win here, whatever,

00:33:52.100 we'll move on somewhere else.

00:33:53.240 I'll focus on foreign policy.

00:33:55.620 It's been very interesting to me

00:33:57.120 in the last couple of days

00:33:58.480 seeing this back and forth

00:34:00.140 between Hochul and Tom Homan

00:34:01.580 about whether or not there's going to be

00:34:03.320 a surge of ICE agents in this state

00:34:05.260 to get after these violent, 0.98

00:34:07.320 criminal, illegal aliens who know 0.88

00:34:08.900 If you go to these sanctuary cities and states, before President Trump was president, they knew they weren't going to get touched at all.

00:34:16.080 Now that he's president, they know there's a chance that the politicians will just defend them no matter what.

00:34:21.880 And now you have Kathy Hochul trying to do this tough gal routine that she does. 0.99

00:34:26.800 And I'm not saying it doesn't fit her because she's a woman. 0.99

00:34:29.120 There have been some tough gals in American politics who could pull it off. 0.99

00:34:32.660 I'm thinking of a couple of them, like, oh, Senator Barbara Mikulski. 1.00

00:34:36.240 Look her up if you don't know who I'm talking about. 1.00

00:34:38.060 She was a Democrat, and she was a woman, and she was tough as nails. 1.00

00:34:41.280 And her tough act was for real.

00:34:44.600 Okay, I think she could have played linebacker for the Steelers in 1975.

00:34:47.720 You know what I mean?

00:34:49.160 She was rough.

00:34:51.100 But she meant it. 1.00

00:34:52.460 Kathy Hochul's tough gal routine doesn't work.

00:34:55.000 And here she is trying to be a tough gal with Tom Homan.

00:34:57.480 Listen to this.

00:34:58.440 While we're walking and talking to Jason, let's just, everyone give us some space.

00:35:01.920 If everyone can block up a couple of seats.

00:35:03.300 Can we ask you about Tom Homan's threat to send-

00:35:07.300 Can you sign it up, Bill?

00:35:08.300 Hang on.

00:35:09.300 Can we ask you about Tom Homan's threat made on Fox News?

00:35:12.300 Yes, you can.

00:35:13.300 Yes, you can ask me about that.

00:35:14.300 He said that it will be- they'll be coming.

00:35:16.300 Is he lying?

00:35:18.300 He's going in a different direction than what the president said he wanted to have happen.

00:35:23.300 So I think it's more he's got to take that up with President Trump.

00:35:26.300 President Trump told me to my face in a room full of governors that when he was asked about

00:35:32.300 he was asked about the lessons of Minneapolis. Mr. President, what are the lessons of Minneapolis?

00:35:36.940 And he says, we're not going where we're not welcome. And he looked over at me,

00:35:41.580 the governor of the state of New York at this meeting, and he says,

00:35:44.220 for example, I will not go to New York unless Kathy asks. And I said, I'm not asking. So we're

00:35:50.140 good. I'm not asking now. That'll never happen because they saw what happened in Minneapolis.

00:35:55.580 They saw the chaos and literally the murder of two innocent civilians who were just simply

00:36:01.420 exercising their right to protest so yeah that's libel the the people in minneapolis who were

00:36:08.440 killed were not murdered first of all you don't know what murder means requires malice aforethought

00:36:14.320 there was no such thing they were both threatened and attacked by the people who got killed

00:36:18.720 and president trump didn't make a blanket promise oh we'll never go in

00:36:24.180 things have gotten out of hand here it's become a magnet for more violent criminals we're seeing 0.79

00:36:30.720 people in this city killed and threatened by violent illegal immigrants and so all bets are

00:36:35.880 off kathy and later on she said there won't be a republican left standing in the state if this

00:36:40.420 happens also ice doesn't bring the chaos stop blaming that's like that's really i mean it's

00:36:46.360 like blaming a rape victim or blaming someone who has a nice watch for their for their robbery ice

00:36:51.800 is there to arrest violent criminals and professional protest groups filled with people 0.65

00:36:59.020 who are kind of deranged

00:37:00.660 go in and look to poke them 0.83

00:37:04.100 and look to agitate them

00:37:07.080 and put themselves in harm's way.

00:37:09.960 ICE is not causing the problem.

00:37:11.600 That is such a,

00:37:12.400 that's also,

00:37:12.960 it's just a slander. 0.85

00:37:14.440 And it's disgusting. 0.98

00:37:17.040 It's disgusting. 0.86

00:37:19.920 Stop.

00:37:23.820 But sometimes things work out pretty well.

00:37:27.400 I'm very happy with another story.

00:37:29.020 that's been percolating around the country and that is uh this didn't get a lot of coverage and

00:37:35.760 it really should especially this time of year when we have high school graduations going on

00:37:38.980 and people sending off their kids to universities pretty soon cash patel the fbi director

00:37:44.180 announcing that a group of people at the university of michigan some of them students

00:37:48.380 some of them outside agitators whatever you want to call them after the october 7th attacks

00:37:53.260 in israel started to harass officials at the university of michigan and they harassed students

00:37:58.280 too although this particular charge doesn't include that as much and they've been arrested

00:38:03.000 and they've been indicted and they are they are accused of a bunch of things including witness

00:38:11.340 tampering the whole thing and good for cash patel you know the university of michigan is an

00:38:16.840 interesting place and you can see why it's so attractive to these terrorist groups and their

00:38:21.300 friends because it's in michigan which has our largest arab american population for a state

00:38:27.440 At the same time, it's filled with a lot of Jewish students.

00:38:33.280 University of Michigan continues to attract a lot of Jewish students across the country, particularly here in the New York area, particularly in larger Jewish communities in Chicago and Los Angeles.

00:38:46.060 And you can see why they want to agitate there.

00:38:48.120 Same thing, same reason why they go after Columbia in a city with a large Jewish population.

00:38:53.600 And there's always been a large Jewish population at Columbia University, although it's been shrinking recently.

00:38:58.920 Did you see any of these kinds of really nasty protests at Notre Dame or the University of Alabama or Liberty University? 0.82

00:39:07.700 No, no Jews, no news. 1.00

00:39:11.600 So good for Kash Patel making that move. 0.99

00:39:14.960 Andrew in New Jersey you want to talk about Kathy Hochul Kathy Kathy Hochul and the tough guy

00:39:24.000 routine the tough girl I'm surprised your call screener he's old enough or not old enough but

00:39:30.300 he knows the reference from the honeymooners Harvey she always reminds me of remember Harvey

00:39:35.700 the big guy that wanted to fight Ralph like a big bully yeah like she doesn't even remind me of a

00:39:42.500 woman drunk, but she reminds me of a man that's drunk and in a bar that wants to pick a fight 0.99

00:39:48.020 with you for no reason. Like, I'll straighten you out, Jayden. We go outside. So I always think of

00:39:56.160 that. But Stefanik really chopped her down nicely in the hearing when she said, you don't remember

00:40:04.220 your first ever executive order, and you gave amnesty to this person who then lit a person on

00:40:10.820 fire in the subway and you don't remember that person like she just totally silenced the bully

00:40:16.000 so it was awesome you know i'll say one other thing there was a time in america you know like

00:40:21.620 five minutes ago when any state being told that the feds were going to come in and take care of

00:40:28.360 some of their more violent criminal population either take them out of their prisons and put

00:40:31.600 them somewhere else or get them rounded up in the first place where every governor of every state

00:40:36.000 getting that news would have danced a jig thank god you're taking my you're taking money off the

00:40:40.740 table for me that i don't have to spend anymore on this you're you're doing thank goodness and

00:40:45.700 these people are illogically against it right now all right we're going to come back i want to talk

00:40:49.880 about the knicks and the whole story about president trump's visit to msg and we got the

00:40:55.240 truth about that from the knicks owner today i'll be right back here on the stone zone this is the

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00:43:24.780 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest

00:43:40.720 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant

00:43:45.500 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone you know i'm jake

00:43:53.900 novak filling in for roger stone this evening you know the people who like obsessively hate

00:43:57.420 donald trump are are really sick they just don't know when to stop and inject their political stuff

00:44:03.980 into every little thing here's james dolan the owner of the new york knicks earlier today 0.98

00:44:09.360 explaining why the watch party was canceled outside of msg before game three look let's just

00:44:15.980 talk about the the game three right the secret service didn't demand this stuff okay it was

00:44:22.140 nypd and it was really the commissioner's office really right it would have made more sense if it

00:44:27.460 was the secret service it would have right because we could accept that it wouldn't like it but we

00:44:31.160 would have accepted it but no that this is the this was the commissioner's plan all along she

00:44:36.780 just used the president coming as an excuse to you know to set it up look let's just uh you know 0.99

00:44:44.560 this reminds me of the way the palestinians are they literally let their own people die 1.00

00:44:49.240 in large numbers 0.99

00:44:50.720 so they can blame it on Israel. 0.99

00:44:55.040 They literally decide to let people

00:44:57.080 be disappointed in New York

00:44:59.120 so that they can say

00:44:59.840 it was President Trump's fault.

00:45:00.920 How about just doing good things?

00:45:03.460 Why don't you do something good

00:45:04.600 and say President Trump

00:45:05.360 didn't want us to do this good thing,

00:45:06.680 but we did it anyway.

00:45:07.420 Instead, it's all negative.

00:45:09.240 People are just really, really sick.

00:45:11.760 And I'm tired of it, really.

00:45:13.420 You know, I didn't like Barack Obama

00:45:15.220 and I didn't like

00:45:16.100 pretty much every one of his policies.

00:45:17.800 He's the only, I think, the only one I liked. 0.87

00:45:19.320 I liked when he ordered the surge in Afghanistan. 0.71

00:45:21.660 Other than that, I can't think of anything.

00:45:24.040 I swear to God, I didn't go to sleep at night thinking about him, positively or negatively, almost ever.

00:45:29.260 I didn't think about him all that much.

00:45:31.680 I was doing another program that many of you hear on these channels,

00:45:35.360 The Left vs. The Right, with a former governor, David Patterson.

00:45:38.980 And he asked me to make kind of a psychological profile of Barack Obama, and I obliged him.

00:45:44.000 But I kind of regret it because I didn't really think about what's going on in his mind.

00:45:47.980 I just didn't like his policies.

00:45:49.160 And then I just kind of thought about something else.

00:45:51.760 These people who obsess with everything Trump, it's just like, geez, get a life.

00:45:57.460 You don't like his policies, then think about that and think about how you would do better.

00:46:01.840 That would be a constructive thing to do.

00:46:04.660 Not, hey, Trump's coming to the game.

00:46:07.900 Let's cancel these watch parties that people really love.

00:46:10.840 Say it was Trump who did it, and then they'll not like Trump too.

00:46:16.200 And that accomplishes what exactly?

00:46:17.920 He's not running again, guys.

00:46:20.180 I'm not really sure what that accomplishes other than just spreading the pain.

00:46:25.920 Spreading the pain.

00:46:27.020 It's ugly. 1.00

00:46:27.760 It's pathetic. 0.99

00:46:29.060 Please stop. 0.97

00:46:30.220 I am yearning, yearning for people who will have a more positive outlook.

00:46:34.700 I'm Jake Novak filling in for Roger Stone tonight.

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00:47:58.180 And it means there's no need to worry when I play at the park.

00:48:01.240 We're making every corner of Ontario safer to make all of Ontario safer.

00:48:06.220 That's how we protect Ontario.

00:48:08.220 For all of us.

00:48:10.220 Learn how at Ontario.ca slash SaferOntario.

00:48:13.220 Paid for by the Government of Ontario.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - June 11, 2026

The Stone Zone ｜ 06-10-26

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