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00:00:39.080 President Donald Trump today hailed his chief of staff.

00:00:43.640 She is the first woman to serve as the White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles.

00:00:49.320 Let's listen to the president.

00:00:51.040 Susie, the most powerful woman in the world.

00:00:54.740 I agree with that.

00:00:56.180 I agree.

00:00:57.340 Now, the job of White House chief of staff is an extraordinarily difficult one.

00:01:03.600 And Susie Wiles has come in for her share of praise and criticism.

00:01:08.600 Much of the criticism, I think, unfounded.

00:01:11.660 It's kind of, they hate us because they ain't us.

00:01:14.500 I mean, I've known President Trump's campaign manager, Susie Wiles, for over 30 years.

00:01:19.760 And I must tell you, these claims on the Internet, these ornate charts showing that she's a globalist, affiliated with the World Economic Forum, or that she carries water for big pharma or any special interest within Trump's orbit is categorically false.

00:01:38.480 She did, at one time, work for Mercury, a well-known lobbying firm.

00:01:43.480 She was never a stakeholder or a partner or an equity holder.

00:01:47.300 But she did not represent Pfizer, as has been widely reported.

00:01:52.360 In fact, she hasn't represented, as a lobbyist, any pharmaceutical company.

00:01:58.240 She also, prior to that, owned her own small public affairs firm, and she didn't represent any foreign countries or pharmaceutical firms or defense contractors there.

00:02:08.940 The reason she is so good at her job is that she has no agenda other than the agenda of her boss, Donald J. Trump.

00:02:17.880 But when you are the gatekeeper, you have to say no to a lot of people.

00:02:25.040 H.R. Bob Haldeman, who really set up the modern White House staff system used by every president since then, was called the abominable no man because, of course, the blame can never be put on the president when he doesn't want to see you.

00:02:41.000 However, Susie Wiles has done an extraordinary job of representing Donald Trump and having a very smooth-running, virtually leak-free White House.

00:02:53.560 That has never happened before either.

00:02:56.580 But if you look at Susie Wiles' pedigree, you learn a great deal more.

00:02:59.940 First of all, she is the daughter of the legendary sportscaster Pat Semerhal.

00:03:04.340 And through her entire political career, rather than work for the establishment, she has always worked for the outsider.

00:03:13.780 She and I worked together in Ronald Reagan's campaign in 1980.

00:03:18.380 She couldn't have gone to work for George H.W. Bush.

00:03:21.160 She declined.

00:03:23.140 She was at the helm of Rick Scott's campaign for governor of Florida.

00:03:29.320 Rick Scott was an absolute outsider, opposed by the Florida Republican establishment, like Trump, a businessman.

00:03:37.940 Once again, she successfully helmed the campaign of the outsider.

00:03:42.660 In 2016, Susie Wiles could have gone to work for Governor Jeb Bush or Senator Marco Rubio, both of whom she's friendly with.

00:03:50.980 But she ended up working for President Donald Trump.

00:03:54.620 But I can tell you that Trump's narrow victory in Florida is due to the skillful management of resources by Susie Wiles.

00:04:05.440 Now, Susie Wiles is also the most recent White House chief of staff who really eschews the spotlight.

00:04:15.840 I think I've only seen her do one interview in the last year.

00:04:20.460 She is press shy.

00:04:22.300 She does not talk on the record to reporters.

00:04:26.660 And that makes her a bit mysterious, I suspect.

00:04:30.420 She's also very hard to read.

00:04:32.740 I mean, when Susie Wiles looks at you, you don't know whether she's about to kneecap you or bake you a casserole. 1.00

00:04:39.940 She is deadly efficient, fiercely loyal to the president.

00:04:44.740 She has superb judgment.

00:04:46.680 And for those who say that she's somehow acted on behalf of Big Pharma, you'd be interested to know that it was really Susie Wiles, more than any other individual person, who helped pull together the alliance of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:05:02.820 and the Maha people and Donald Trump.

00:05:06.340 In fact, Susie Wiles was a proponent of Cali Means and her book long before I ever heard of Cali Means or the fact that he was friends with Donald Trump.

00:05:19.540 The other notable thing, of course, is in 2018, Susie Wiles managed the campaign to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

00:05:27.360 She did that at President Trump's request, only, in my opinion, to be treated most shabbily by Governor DeSantis and his wife after his razor-thin win. 1.00

00:05:38.580 And DeSantis won by 25,000 votes out of 8.9 cast.

00:05:45.140 Wiles was briefly banished from the DeSantis circle and from the state Republican Party and the Trump 2020 re-election for reasons that neither Wiles nor DeSantis has ever publicly commented on.

00:05:58.400 I told Politico at that time, I think Susie Wiles' unique understanding of Ron DeSantis and his wife and their limitations gave Donald Trump a key edge in defeating this ungrateful, treacherous, backstabbing ingrate, Ron DeSantis.

00:06:16.560 I'm sure Ron DeSantis was shocked when President Donald Trump turned to Susie Wiles in 2023 to bring her back, not only as his chief of staff, but as the architect, along with Chris LaCivita and my good friend Tony Fabrizio, with the most stunning political comeback in American history.

00:06:38.720 So if anybody asks you who is Susie Wiles, I'll tell you who she is.

00:06:44.180 She's a winner. 0.82

00:06:45.120 She excels in management skills.

00:06:49.940 Her budgeting expertise and understanding how to budget a presidential campaign so you have money when you need it is among her forte, but above all, it is her loyalty.

00:07:01.440 I can tell you that she is loyal to the president.

00:07:04.980 She carries out his wishes.

00:07:07.180 And perhaps sometimes she gets the blame for decisions she did not make, but she is by far,

00:07:12.540 I think, perhaps the greatest White House chief of staff that we've had.

00:07:16.560 And that includes not only Bob Haldeman, but Sherman Adams, a number of legendary chiefs of staff.

00:07:24.460 Now you know who Susie Wiles is. 1.00

00:07:28.080 President Donald Trump gave a speech honoring soldiers on Tuesday, discussing his decision to deploy troops to Los Angeles to stop the anti-ice riots.

00:07:38.600 Generations of Army heroes did not shed their blood on distant shores, only to watch our country be destroyed by invasion and third world lawlessness, Trump told an incredible speech at the Army base in Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

00:07:54.620 What you're witnessing in California, the president said, is a full-blown assault on peace, on public order, and on national sovereignty carried out by rioters bearing forward flags.

00:08:07.400 Trump added his administration would liberate Los Angeles.

00:08:11.100 Trump's visit to Fort Bragg, home to some 50,000 active-duty soldiers, came on the heels of his move to deploy 700 Marines and 4,000 National Guard troops to Los Angeles in response to riots over the deportation of violent illegal aliens.

00:08:31.720 The governor, Gavin Newsom, immediately challenged the president's authority to mobilize the National Guard, saying that he, as governor, had not requested the Guard.

00:08:43.280 Obviously, oblivious to the long history of this, some folks listening to this will remember when Governor Orval Faubus of Arkansas was ignored,

00:08:54.480 when Eisenhower sent the National Guard and Eisenhower sent the troops to Arkansas to desegregate that state, or when John Kennedy sent National Guard troops to Alabama over the wishes of Governor George Wallace.

00:09:08.780 That's where Gavin Newsom is going to end up, in the dustbin of history with George Wallace.

00:09:14.440 The California Democrats have tried to insist that the protests are peaceful, but our eyes show us otherwise.

00:09:26.040 Burning cars, demonstrators flinging rocks, chunks of cement, bricks, bottles, little baggies of feces and urine at ICE agents and local and state police officers.

00:09:43.160 The president said that the military deployment was needed to protect federal property and personnel,

00:09:49.040 and in DOD, the original demonstration surrounded a federal courthouse, which was, among other buildings, set on fire.

00:09:58.060 I mean, California's insane Democrat-led state government tried to sue, and they were immediately pushed back by the appeals court,

00:10:06.400 who insisted that the president has the authority to send in the Marines.

00:10:12.440 There was a hearing on this today.

00:10:16.320 It is unbelievable that the president continues to call out Gavin Newsom.

00:10:21.260 Newsom is trying to use this horrible, horrible situation in Los Angeles to reboot his political prospects.

00:10:31.180 I mean, based on his record, the Zoran crime, the out-of-control taxes, 1.00

00:10:35.420 the widespread drug addiction and homelessness in California, he doesn't have much of a record to run for president on.

00:10:44.600 He also had the minor problem of Kamala Harris, the former vice president, now mulling a gubernatorial bid of her own.

00:10:51.940 She would certainly be in his way, although Gavin Newsom is a Getty, so he comes from incredible personal wealth.

00:10:59.880 He could finance his entire campaign.

00:11:04.080 After his giving his speech in Fort Bragg, President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth took part in the long-scheduled commemoration of the U.S. Army's 250th anniversary,

00:11:14.280 watching soldiers demonstrate a Special Forces assault and use a long-range missile launcher.

00:11:21.020 It was the first in a series of celebrations of the Army anniversaries involving Trump,

00:11:27.600 ahead of what is going to be what they're now calling the Big Beautiful Parade.

00:11:33.340 This is the first major parade in Washington on a Saturday.

00:11:38.020 The Army was established 250 years ago on July 14, 1775, and more than a year before the Declaration of Independence.

00:11:46.600 I am really tempted to hop a plane and go to the Big Beautiful Parade.

00:11:52.500 Speaking to reporters earlier on Tuesday in the Oval Office, Trump warned again against demonstrations at the parade.

00:12:00.820 Some radical groups have announced that they will attempt to disrupt the parade,

00:12:06.920 but Trump says they're going to be met with a very big force.

00:12:11.380 Donald Trump is not a man to trifle with.

00:12:15.300 While funded activists and a coordinated social media campaign helped spark that pro-illegal migrant protest on Friday

00:12:23.220 that descended into days of violence, injury, property damage, and rioting in Los Angeles,

00:12:30.600 left-wing groups posted calls to action with their location to gather on Friday in unison

00:12:35.740 after the arrest of a local SEIU union leader on Friday.

00:12:42.300 The subsequent uprising echoes scenes of the Black Lives Matter riots.

00:12:47.120 Remember those of 2020, which brought activists such as professional legal observers into the streets

00:12:53.680 during a wave of protests that led to fires eluding vandalism and over 54 deaths.

00:13:01.680 Two billion dollars worth of property damage in the 2020 riots.

00:13:09.120 President Donald Trump decided then to let the governors individually decide when to and if to bring out the National Guard.

00:13:17.940 Governor Tim Walsh, notably, is one of those who delayed, which is why you had so many injuries,

00:13:24.260 so many deaths, and so much damage in Minneapolis-St. Paul.

00:13:29.080 It is obvious to anyone who looks at this that what we're looking at,

00:13:35.120 these are not indigenous and grassroots uprisings of people who are unhappy with Donald Trump's record.

00:13:42.440 This is nothing less than an attempt to destabilize his administration through violence.

00:13:48.420 The co-sponsors of the No King rallies, which I predict you will descend into violence,

00:13:56.940 are the Party for Socialism and Liberation, backed by a private billionaire by the name of Neville Roy Singham,

00:14:04.360 who's donated over 20 million dollars to such radical causes.

00:14:08.440 Also, the Democratic Socialists of America, the largest socialist group in the country,

00:14:14.940 they actually get 280,000 dollars from our own federal government.

00:14:21.560 Can you believe that?

00:14:22.280 We're financing people who are attacking the country. 0.94

00:14:26.540 There is also Indivisible.

00:14:30.020 They reported nearly 2.5 million dollars in funds in 2024.

00:14:34.720 Their fundraising remains somewhat opaque, but I think it should be examined.

00:14:41.560 And then the 50501 movement, which is another leftist grassroots radical organization.

00:14:49.460 I think Pat Cash-Patel, the FBI director, needs to be looking at every one of these

00:14:53.060 because those pallets of bricks are coming from someone.

00:14:57.540 Those legal observers and the lawyers standing by to bail out those who are arrested,

00:15:02.380 they are coming from someone.

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00:15:45.040 Here's a piece of good news.

00:15:51.540 The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Tuesday to scrap a Washington, D.C. law permitting non-citizens to vote in local elections

00:16:00.380 and overturning another local law curtailing law enforcement liability protections.

00:16:06.160 In a 266 to 148 vote with one president, the House moved to nix the 2022 Local Resident Voting Rights Amendment Act

00:16:16.580 that would ensure that only U.S. citizens can vote in D.C. elections.

00:16:21.760 D.C., of course, is not a state.

00:16:23.200 It is a federal protectorate.

00:16:24.960 So why non-citizens should be allowed to vote seems like a pretty common-sense question to me. 0.99

00:16:31.720 Free and fair elections are a prerequisite for a healthy republic, said Congressman August Pflueger from Texas,

00:16:38.420 who probably looks just like he sounds, and introduced this bill.

00:16:42.520 The radical D.C. Council's decision to allow non-citizens, including illegal aliens and foreign agents,

00:16:50.380 to vote in local elections dilutes the voting power of the citizens' vote.

00:16:54.960 That power must be defended.

00:16:58.500 Republicans acted in the House to do so.

00:17:02.480 We also have illegals voting in local elections in New York until that was challenged.

00:17:09.560 Now, under the D.C. Home Rule Act of 1973, the nation's capital has certain authorities,

00:17:16.320 such as the ability to elect its own mayor and its own city council,

00:17:19.540 although Congress can cancel any law and Congress funds the local government.

00:17:25.600 Congress has gone over 30 years without meddling in D.C. affairs,

00:17:29.060 but ended that streak in 2023 when it first nixed a law that rolled back penalties for certain felonies,

00:17:36.020 such as armed robbery.

00:17:37.980 Former Joe Biden backed the overturning of that law, which is incredible.

00:17:43.820 It's interesting to note that since Donald Trump became president,

00:17:47.080 and you've had two different U.S. attorneys in the U.S. Attorney's Office,

00:17:51.700 Ed Martin and Judge Jeanine Pirro,

00:17:53.920 there has been a 93% drop in crime in the District of Columbia.

00:18:01.360 This is Donald Trump.

00:18:03.420 Coming up next, author of the New York Times bestseller,

00:18:06.820 The Plot Against the President, Lee Smith, is going to outline for us

00:18:10.140 how these unfolding demonstrations in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta,

00:18:16.820 and elsewhere were anticipated and planned more than a year ago.

00:18:20.880 Don't go away. We'll be right back with the incredible Lee Smith.

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00:18:37.460 Welcome. We're back in the Stone Zone.

00:18:39.920 Joining me now is Lee Smith.

00:18:41.840 Lee Smith is the author of the New York Times bestseller,

00:18:44.580 The Plot Against the President, which also became an incredible documentary.

00:18:49.120 He's written a number of other books, but his most disturbing book

00:18:53.080 is his latest book, Disappearing the President,

00:18:57.080 I guess because what we see unfolding in Los Angeles is foretold in this book.

00:19:04.560 Lee Smith essentially says,

00:19:06.200 even before a would-be killer tried to murder President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania,

00:19:11.040 a clique of political assassins set about eliminating him from public life entirely.

00:19:16.060 In his new book, Disappearing the President,

00:19:19.220 Lee Smith exposes how a shadow network of powerful partisan activists

00:19:23.660 has waged a year-long scorched-earth war to eradicate President Trump

00:19:28.740 and any vestige of his influence,

00:19:31.460 resorting to an unprecedented campaign of domestic spying,

00:19:35.200 election rigging, brute force censorship, and political violence.

00:19:40.520 These Trump's outlets appear to be at it again in Los Angeles.

00:19:44.800 This appears to be splitting to New York, Chicago, Dallas, and Atlanta.

00:19:49.760 Lee Smith, thank you so much for joining us in the Stone Zone.

00:19:53.100 Yeah, thank you so much, Roger.

00:19:54.400 Always nice to speak with you.

00:19:56.180 So lay this out for us because your book really does seem precinct.

00:20:02.120 I thought at the time this was mostly groundbreaking.

00:20:05.280 I knew parts of this, not all of it,

00:20:06.840 but you clearly foresaw all of this.

00:20:10.520 Well, one of the things that tips it off are the people who are involved,

00:20:15.640 the people who've been talking about this since at least January 2024.

00:20:22.780 What was interesting was that even back then,

00:20:25.580 they'd anticipated or gamed out the possibility of a Trump victory in November 2024.

00:20:31.880 And so they reasoned that since the deportation operation was going to be so big

00:20:39.500 on Trump's agenda, that this was also a place where they could attack Trump.

00:20:46.380 And the way that they would attack Donald Trump is what we're seeing today.

00:20:49.600 The first part is to get people out on the street.

00:20:55.440 And there's many other people who have covered this,

00:20:57.760 who have said who are the people who are involved,

00:21:01.080 who are paying to put people on the streets.

00:21:04.480 And that would prompt the president to call out National Guard units,

00:21:12.020 as well as regular military units.

00:21:15.240 And that's what we're seeing in Los Angeles.

00:21:16.920 Then the design is to have people inside the Pentagon object to Trump's moves.

00:21:23.780 And that will split the Pentagon and presumably split the armed forces

00:21:28.800 and destabilize the American government.

00:21:32.020 The people in there, the people who are involved or behind this,

00:21:35.200 are some familiar names, including a man named Mark Elias,

00:21:38.780 who was then, who was formerly a lawyer at Perkins Coy.

00:21:42.260 And he was the person who essentially funded the Steele dossier.

00:21:47.540 Another one of these people is a woman named Rosa Brooks, 1.00

00:21:50.100 who was an Obama Pentagon official.

00:21:52.640 And she was behind the Transition Integrity Project,

00:21:55.880 which basically gamed out the election irregularities

00:22:01.780 and what that would lead to, including not just the election,

00:22:06.440 but the aftermath where Trump supporters would be rolled up.

00:22:09.760 And then another person is someone, Roger, I suspect that your audience will know her name, too.

00:22:15.240 That name is Mary McCord.

00:22:17.020 And she was a Justice Department official.

00:22:20.380 And she was lead on the, you know, this unlawful investigation of Donald Trump,

00:22:26.220 the Russia collusion probe.

00:22:29.280 After that, McCord has worked in a variety of places,

00:22:32.720 including, I believe, that she worked for Adam Schiff for a brief period.

00:22:36.220 And then she was on the January 6th committee attacking,

00:22:40.100 impoverishing and imprisoning Trump supporters,

00:22:43.220 or helping to impoverish and imprison Trump supporters.

00:22:46.080 So all these names are pretty well known to people.

00:22:49.160 And these are the same people who have been writing about this,

00:22:52.620 the same people who have been wargaming this.

00:22:55.080 And what I mean about wargaming, they've been wargaming these protests,

00:22:59.420 how they would spread, how they would grow bigger,

00:23:01.880 how the president would be compelled to invoke all sorts of different statutes,

00:23:06.960 to send out the, to send out, not just not to bypass,

00:23:10.760 bypass governors who would not cooperate, like Gavin Newsom,

00:23:14.740 and also to send out regular military units.

00:23:17.380 So I'm concerned that what we're seeing unfold right here

00:23:21.460 is something that these people, anti-Trump plotters,

00:23:24.820 have been, again, planning since at least January 2024,

00:23:29.580 probably much earlier.

00:23:31.060 Yeah, I'm very familiar with almost everyone on your list.

00:23:33.440 Mark Elias appeared at my trial on behalf of the Democrat National Committee

00:23:37.220 and made a motion granted by the judge that the so-called crowd strikes memo,

00:23:43.920 which allegedly proved that the Russian intelligence had hacked the DNC,

00:23:48.420 not be released to my defense attorney.

00:23:50.940 He won that motion, how not surprisingly.

00:23:54.480 If you're just tuning in, folks, we're talking to Lee Smith.

00:23:57.020 President Donald Trump said,

00:23:58.140 Lee Smith is a great American patriot who has understood that the threat from the beginning,

00:24:03.540 the radical left, is the true threat to our democracy.

00:24:06.000 That's what he said about Lee Smith.

00:24:08.220 I urge you to get his new book, Disappearing the President.

00:24:12.080 He also writes regularly for the Tablet magazine.

00:24:15.500 He has a new piece up now that ties what we are seeing unfolding

00:24:20.000 before our very eyes to this group of radicals.

00:24:24.280 I think Lee and I both agree that the Russian collusion hoax

00:24:29.480 is the greatest single dirty trick in American politics.

00:24:33.700 It is an abuse of power in which the full authority of the United States government

00:24:40.500 and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies was utilized

00:24:45.820 using two pieces of evidence that they knew from the beginning were fraudulent.

00:24:51.980 The so-called Steele dossier, which alleges that Donald Trump frolicked with Russian prostitutes

00:25:00.720 when visiting Moscow as a private citizen, was a total fraud, paid for by Hillary Clinton,

00:25:06.240 whose campaign actually paid a fine for trying to disguise the payments for that document as legal fees

00:25:12.700 rather than what they really were.

00:25:14.460 And, of course, the false claim that the Russians hacked the DNC.

00:25:19.420 This is a figment of John Brennan's imagination that they built an entire federal investigation around.

00:25:28.260 Let me just ask you, you asked me this, Lee, I'm going to ask you,

00:25:31.240 how do you think President Trump is doing overall fighting these pernicious influences,

00:25:37.940 both inside and, sadly, outside and, sadly, inside his own government?

00:25:43.460 Well, I think he's doing a terrific job.

00:25:47.340 And I'm, you know, I think that Secretary Hegseth over at the Pentagon is doing a great job, too.

00:25:55.700 And, you know, I mean, there's been some issues over there, not due to the secretary himself,

00:26:01.000 but there's, you know, there's been some people who appear to be leaking against them or trying to hurt them.

00:26:07.400 So, again, I'm just concerned looking at this particular operation since the Pentagon is part of the target,

00:26:14.920 and this is how these people, they gamed it out.

00:26:17.260 Their whole point was, and this is a very important thing, Roger,

00:26:20.820 because I suspect that most of your listeners will be thinking that DOD,

00:26:26.000 DOD, the uniformed military, is solidly red, solidly behind Donald Trump.

00:26:31.920 And there's a lot of them, thank goodness, who are.

00:26:34.120 But there's also a lot of people in there who owe their rank to the Democrats,

00:26:38.780 and these people have been curated to become good blue Clinton, then Obama Democrats.

00:26:46.420 That's been going on for about nearly, well, for about 25 years.

00:26:50.580 There's a number of different Washington institutions that take young officers,

00:26:56.440 and the job is to turn them into Democrats.

00:26:59.040 So, yeah, there are people over in that building who can cause a lot of trouble

00:27:04.120 for the Trump administration and for Secretary Hexf.

00:27:08.140 So, you know, but I think they've been very much on the ball,

00:27:12.300 and they have the support of, you know,

00:27:14.120 they have the support of God-fearing, patriotic Americans who think it's a terrible thing

00:27:20.680 that even if they don't love Los Angeles or New York or Chicago,

00:27:24.840 think it's a terrible thing that our beautiful American cities are being turned into

00:27:29.900 dangerous, squalid, third-world cesspools, and that this violence is a terrible thing.

00:27:37.200 So they know they have the support of Americans.

00:27:41.080 Yeah, you're absolutely right about the fact that it is entirely outdated thinking

00:27:45.400 to believe that there are people inside the upper, middle, and to a great extent,

00:27:50.520 even the lower levels of our military who are not leftists, not globalists.

00:27:56.300 I mean, Barack Obama, over his eight years, systematically retired.

00:28:01.760 He promoted those who were globalists.

00:28:03.720 He retired those who were just straight-ad soldiers without any political beliefs

00:28:08.860 or anyone who, God forbid, leaned right or maybe revered the Constitution.

00:28:14.360 So, and this is not just true, sadly, of our military,

00:28:17.880 but Donald Trump is still dealing with a captive government.

00:28:21.920 I mean, he may name the U.S. Attorney General, for example.

00:28:26.520 He may even name the U.S. Attorneys in a given jurisdiction,

00:28:30.920 but everyone working below that interim U.S. Attorney is a leftist Democrat activist

00:28:39.020 or a careerist who is a Democrat posing as a civil servant.

00:28:45.620 Turning around the government, it's like turning around an ocean liner.

00:28:50.140 So let's take Kash Patel, who's both a friend of yours and a friend of mine,

00:28:54.160 a very good man, I think uniquely qualified for the job of FBI director,

00:29:00.900 largely because he not only served as a government prosecutor,

00:29:05.460 he was the chief of staff of a major department, the Department of Defense,

00:29:10.300 demonstrating he has the administrative experience,

00:29:12.940 and he was, of course, the man who led the Russian collusion investigation

00:29:18.560 for Congressman Devin Nunes, who was my first choice for vice president with Donald Trump.

00:29:24.820 Not that I don't like J.D. Vance, but I was for...

00:29:27.420 That's right. I remember you saying that now. That was great.

00:29:31.620 I think speaking to former Congressman Nunes,

00:29:34.320 once he started seeing that groundswell of support,

00:29:37.320 he was surprised and honored,

00:29:40.060 and I think he didn't want nothing to do with it.

00:29:43.920 But I remember that now. I'm so glad you mentioned that.

00:29:46.560 Well, look, I think he is uniquely qualified, and I'll tell you why.

00:29:50.320 There are very few people who go to Washington for as long as he was there

00:29:55.740 and rise to a powerful position, as he did as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee,

00:30:01.320 who don't lose their souls.

00:30:03.600 Devin Nunes is the same guy he was when he left for his first term for Congress.

00:30:07.840 He's a patriot.

00:30:09.020 He's a nationalist in the sense that he loves his country.

00:30:12.100 He reveres the Constitution.

00:30:13.460 You can't buy him if you're a lobbyist, so don't even try.

00:30:18.080 He's a person of enormous integrity and common sense.

00:30:21.780 Now, that's how John McCain was when he left for Washington,

00:30:25.140 as a member of the House.

00:30:26.460 And look at the way he ended up.

00:30:29.140 No, I think he would have been a great vice president.

00:30:31.940 Who knows? He may yet be a great vice president someday.

00:30:35.140 He's a relatively young man.

00:30:37.340 But you make a larger point here, and that is there has been this kind of shadow operation

00:30:44.060 that includes Norm Eisen and Andrew Weissman,

00:30:51.720 also known as the single most corrupt prosecutor in U.S. history,

00:30:55.240 along with Mary McCord and these others, 0.92

00:30:58.080 who are operating, I think, in violation of the Constitution

00:31:02.120 and who abused their power in the Biden administration,

00:31:06.740 try to lock up Donald Trump, put him in jail,

00:31:09.160 try to bankrupt him, try to keep him off the ballot in all 50 states.

00:31:13.060 They call it lawfare, and they're right back to it.

00:31:15.700 Norm Eisen, who has to be one of the most odious characters I've ever seen,

00:31:19.740 bragging the other night on how many lawsuits that he's filed.

00:31:22.900 So what they do is they go forum shopping.

00:31:25.880 So they look for a jurisdiction that has a particularly left-wing activist judge,

00:31:31.720 and then they go there with litigation,

00:31:35.240 which has already been decided in other jurisdictions.

00:31:38.120 So, for example, President Trump has the authority

00:31:41.380 to return a violent, illegal immigrant to their home. 1.00

00:31:45.460 He has that constitutional authority.

00:31:48.200 But in D.C., they try to tell him that he didn't.

00:31:50.420 He has the authority to negotiate tariff deals with other nations.

00:31:54.780 But the International Court of Trade in Manhattan, New York,

00:31:59.500 that's a good one, Lee.

00:32:00.340 I've never even heard of them before.

00:32:01.880 They popped up and said, no, he didn't.

00:32:04.260 Now, ultimately, the courts have, when we got to the Supreme Court,

00:32:08.300 in every case so far, the courts have ruled for the president.

00:32:11.740 But all of this is designed to delay the president's success.

00:32:16.720 And when you add it to the refusal by the head of the Federal Reserve,

00:32:21.000 Jerome Powell, who is acting politically to refuse to cut interest rates,

00:32:26.460 even though the inflation rate today is almost exactly where it was

00:32:30.460 when they cut them for Joe Biden.

00:32:32.680 You see what this is really about,

00:32:34.520 which is to say to stop Donald Trump's agenda,

00:32:38.180 to derail, defund, or dismiss the fundamental changes the American people voted for

00:32:49.360 in the last election.

00:32:52.280 It's terrible because, look, I mean, of course, there are political rivalries.

00:32:58.400 There are political enemies.

00:33:00.560 And I guess that's not surprising that people would target their enemies.

00:33:04.900 But the fact is, look at how many American people are hurt by this.

00:33:08.040 I mean, you're talking about refusing to lower the interest rates.

00:33:10.480 I mean, you know, there's young families who'd like to get a house

00:33:13.620 or someone needs a new car or someone wants to get a used car.

00:33:17.860 And, you know, it had just helped people out.

00:33:20.620 And what we're talking about, something even worse,

00:33:23.460 because of the violence involved in these protests.

00:33:25.640 And look at these animals sending dangerous, violent people into the streets

00:33:30.220 to hurt the Donald Trump agenda.

00:33:32.360 How many Americans are going to get hurt by this?

00:33:35.020 I mean, actually pay a physical price.

00:33:38.920 Businesses are being destroyed.

00:33:40.580 People are being threatened.

00:33:42.640 It's just a terrible thing they're doing.

00:33:45.660 And it's really just it's just more evidence that these people are effectively,

00:33:50.700 if not in reality, communists, right?

00:33:52.760 They're a total disconcern for other Americans.

00:33:57.160 It's just despicable.

00:33:58.420 All right.

00:33:59.040 Just tune in, folks.

00:34:00.040 We're talking to Lee Smith, the New York Times bestselling author.

00:34:03.020 And we'll be right back with more of his political observations.

00:34:06.920 He kind of connecting the dots for us here in terms of who is funding this insurrection

00:34:12.200 that's taking place in America.

00:34:14.600 We'll be right back.

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00:34:27.120 And you're back in the Stone Zone.

00:34:30.460 We're talking to Lee Smith, the author of the New York Times bestseller,

00:34:34.520 The Plot Against the President.

00:34:36.180 His latest book, even more disturbing, Disappearing the President.

00:34:40.300 Really a synopsis of the last several years of lawfare in which our constitutional system

00:34:47.900 was bent, particularly in New York State, remains to be seen whether Letitia James,

00:34:54.300 the Attorney General of New York, among those trying to derail Trump's re-election

00:34:59.940 by prosecuting him under law, in which no one else has ever in the history of the state

00:35:04.960 been prosecuted.

00:35:06.620 Prosecuting him specifically because she claimed that he inflated the value of his assets in

00:35:12.920 order to obtain real estate loans that he paid back in full and where those lending

00:35:17.520 the money made $40 million in interest.

00:35:21.520 Every one of them said they would do it again.

00:35:24.560 The most bogus case I have ever seen.

00:35:27.860 Lee, how's this all come out?

00:35:30.260 In other words, I think that the president, I think he's got an incredible constitution,

00:35:36.900 incredible energy.

00:35:37.820 But the far left is really embedded here.

00:35:41.980 I mean, they're not giving up.

00:35:44.640 And, you know, I think that understandably, understandably, Americans were so overjoyed

00:35:53.120 that Donald Trump won in November.

00:35:56.380 And we've been celebrating.

00:35:58.740 We've been enjoying our liberation from forces of darkness.

00:36:02.140 We feel that we're no longer at the edge of the abyss.

00:36:05.160 And that's right.

00:36:05.960 But we also have to keep in mind that this is a it's a very short term.

00:36:11.840 It can go by awfully quickly.

00:36:13.420 And the people who've been targeting Donald Trump since 2015, since late 2015, are not

00:36:20.320 going away.

00:36:21.360 And that's what these protests are about.

00:36:23.660 And that's what everything is about.

00:36:25.100 And it's very I think it's also very important to recognize that we flatter many of our neighbors

00:36:32.440 and fellow Americans to say, well, look, now that things are back to normal, people can

00:36:37.860 see that this is better than living in this madness as it was under Joe Biden.

00:36:43.000 Again, we have to keep in mind that Kamala Harris got an awful lot of votes. 1.00

00:36:47.760 And and those people are still those people are still there.

00:36:51.180 So I think it's it's urgent.

00:36:56.140 It's important that we keep we keep our heads up and see what's and see what's going on, because

00:37:02.960 Donald Trump does need does need our support, our vigilance.

00:37:07.400 Our country needs our support and our vigilance.

00:37:09.420 Because, again, the people who have been targeting Trump for the last decade are not going to

00:37:13.620 give up now for them.

00:37:14.920 It's going to get more urgent, more serious.

00:37:17.520 And and open borders is a you it's a crucial issue for them, just as it is for us, for normal

00:37:23.500 Americans who think that, you know, if you want to come into the country, you should do 1.00

00:37:27.680 it legally for them.

00:37:30.020 It's very important.

00:37:31.080 It's an electoral tool.

00:37:33.120 Right.

00:37:33.360 This is an important part to try to bring these people to try to bring a potential client

00:37:39.940 base to recreate the electorate.

00:37:42.580 It's very important for Democratic Party bosses.

00:37:45.820 So they're going to be out there.

00:37:47.800 This is what they're fighting for.

00:37:49.240 It's not just it's not because they're kind.

00:37:51.920 They're kind of people who want to give the world a chance to share in the American dream,

00:37:57.240 even if it's illegal.

00:37:58.320 They're looking at their own electoral fortune.

00:38:01.620 That's why it's vital to them.

00:38:03.360 They can't give this up.

00:38:05.200 So this is this this fight.

00:38:06.840 What we're seeing unfolding now is, again, another really is an existential battle.

00:38:13.440 Right.

00:38:14.520 The future of America depends on Donald Trump winning on America, winning this particular

00:38:21.060 fight over over the people who are burning down American cities to get their way and to

00:38:27.760 keep borders open.

00:38:29.020 It's very serious.

00:38:30.820 I could not have said it better myself.

00:38:32.320 I'm afraid we have to wrap it up there.

00:38:33.880 I want to thank our guest, Elise Smith, and all of you who joined us today in the Stone

00:38:38.000 Zone.

00:38:38.320 God bless you and Godspeed.

00:38:39.920 Godspeed.

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