The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.120 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:05.880 You are entering the Stone Zone.

00:00:09.120 Exciting political news.

00:00:10.860 Eric Trump, the presidential son, tells the Financial Times

00:00:14.180 that he himself has not ruled out a race for president in 2028.

00:00:20.500 I think the political path would be an easy one, he said.

00:00:23.100 I know I could do it.

00:00:24.800 Would I want my kids to live the same experience?

00:00:27.480 Only time will tell.

00:00:28.820 Another Trump on the ballot in 2028?

00:00:32.000 I, for one, love it.

00:00:33.960 In the meantime, his wife, Lara Trump, is now considering a race for the U.S. Senate in Tennessee.

00:00:41.420 That's where the rhino Tom Tillis announced after voting against the big, beautiful bill in the U.S. Senate

00:00:49.140 that he would not stand for re-election.

00:00:51.900 Now, on this show months ago, when Tillis voted against Ed Martin,

00:00:58.820 also known as Eagle Ed Martin, to be the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia,

00:01:04.420 I called for Lara Trump to challenge Tillis. 1.00

00:01:07.980 Now I believe Lara Trump is in an excellent position,

00:01:11.320 not only to win the Republican nomination, but to hold that seat for the Republicans.

00:01:16.300 All news seems to be Trump today.

00:01:19.080 President Donald Trump yesterday called on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell

00:01:23.940 for artificially inflating interest rates and said they would be, should be,

00:01:28.600 less than half of what they are right now.

00:01:31.380 We have a bad Fed chairman, but other than that, it doesn't even matter.

00:01:35.480 The numbers are so good, it doesn't matter that he keeps the rates artificially high.

00:01:40.160 That's what Trump said on Sunday.

00:01:41.700 We should be at 1% or 2%.

00:01:44.220 The sad truth is, of course, that Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve cut rates

00:01:49.460 in order to facilitate Joe Biden's re-election when the inflation rate was quite different than today.

00:01:56.820 It was even lower.

00:01:58.940 So the politics of what Powell is doing, I think, is abundantly clear.

00:02:03.980 Meanwhile, the New York Post reports that Chairman Powell probably lied to Congress

00:02:11.620 about the $2.5 billion that they are using to revamp the central bank's palatial Washington headquarters.

00:02:22.220 Yes, you heard me right.

00:02:23.480 $2.5 billion paid for by, yes, you've got it, the taxpayers.

00:02:29.680 Powell said when he was asked by Senator Tim Scott, the Republican of South Carolina,

00:02:38.040 about the grilling, that there was no VIP dining room, there is no new marble,

00:02:44.360 there are no new special elevators.

00:02:47.240 Powell said under questioning from a powerful panel on Wednesday,

00:02:51.960 there's no new water features, no new beehives, and there's no roof terrace gardens.

00:02:57.660 But Powell, who is meanwhile facing heat from President Trump over his failure to slash interest rates,

00:03:04.400 directly contradicted the project's own planning documents, which were signed off by the government in 2021.

00:03:12.860 At this point, the American people need a cut in interest rates to facilitate the purchase of a home,

00:03:19.400 the purchase of a car, it's across the board.

00:03:22.720 The people, the taxpayers, seem to be left in the lurch here.

00:03:26.900 Today, on Too Social, the president again hammered Powell,

00:03:30.900 posting a list of world central bank rates, highlighting Switzerland and Japan as the top,

00:03:37.860 with interest rates of 0.25 and 0.5, respectively, saying with a note, this is where we should be.

00:03:45.820 Jerome, Too Late Powell, and his entire board should be ashamed of themselves

00:03:51.260 for allowing this to happen to the United States, wrote President Trump.

00:03:55.240 They have only one easiest and most prestigious jobs in America,

00:04:00.120 and they have failed, and they continue to do so.

00:04:03.160 If they were doing their job properly, our country would be saving trillions of dollars in interest costs.

00:04:10.140 The board just sits there and watches, so they are equally to blame.

00:04:14.020 We should be paying 1% interest or better, said the president.

00:04:17.540 Interestingly, at the bottom of the list, the United States sits next to Cameroon and Ecuadorial Guinea

00:04:24.500 at a current rate of 4.5%.

00:04:27.640 Trump also hand-wrote on the list,

00:04:30.740 Jerome, you are, as usual, too late.

00:04:34.440 You have cost the USA a fortune, and you continue to do so.

00:04:39.060 Our rate should be lower by a lot.

00:04:42.620 Hundreds of billions of dollars are being lost.

00:04:44.960 There is virtually no inflation.

00:04:48.180 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who is one of the standouts of the Trump cabinet, in my view,

00:04:54.360 outlined yesterday the options to replace Federal Reserve Jerome Powell as chairman.

00:05:00.840 One option being contemplated by the administration, Besson said,

00:05:04.180 is that President Trump appoints a new person to the Fed's Board of Governors

00:05:08.640 to fill a 14-year seat that opens up with the scheduled departure of Fed Governor Adriana Kugler on January 31st. 0.91

00:05:18.620 And that person will go on to be chair when Powell leaves in May.

00:05:23.400 Or, said Besson, we could appoint the new chair in May directly.

00:05:28.780 Unfortunately, that's just a two-year seat.

00:05:31.080 Last night, on True Social, President Trump pointed out how much the administration has already done

00:05:37.960 about the high price and markets that were handed to him by the Biden administration.

00:05:43.900 The Trump administration has gotten costs down very substantially for the American consumer,

00:05:50.220 said President Trump.

00:05:51.600 There's never been anything quite like this.

00:05:54.080 Meanwhile, President Trump announced that he will be attending the opening of the so-called

00:06:00.360 Alligator Alcatraz Detention Center in Florida this week.

00:06:05.800 The president's move comes as his administration and the state of Florida seek to build a remote detention center

00:06:12.720 to house illegal immigrants as they await deportation.

00:06:17.020 The site is expected to open with soft-sided holding units for hundreds of detainees

00:06:23.500 through a partnership where the federal government provides the funding

00:06:27.000 and the Florida Division of Emergency Management oversees its build-out and its everyday management.

00:06:34.800 Additional holding units will be added through next month, according to this joint agreement.

00:06:40.400 The facility is projected to cost about $450 million a year,

00:06:45.180 which will come from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA,

00:06:50.200 specifically their shelter and services program that was used to house asylum seekers during the Biden administration.

00:06:58.460 The facility will reportedly hold migrants arrested in Florida

00:07:02.160 and migrants transferred by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers,

00:07:08.200 known as ICE, from other parts of the country.

00:07:10.760 The president plans to join the head of the Department of Homeland Security,

00:07:14.940 Kristi Noem, as well as Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida for the opening tomorrow.

00:07:21.900 President Trump is also threatened to cut New York City's funding if the voters elect a lunatic as mayor.

00:07:29.520 In the wake of communist and Islamic radical New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdami's Democratic primary win,

00:07:39.740 speculation has abounded regarding what could become the nation's most populous city

00:07:45.200 if a full-on socialist wins the general election.

00:07:49.900 President Trump has certainly not shied away from his own criticism of Mamdami.

00:07:54.700 This weekend, he issued a clear warning to the Big Apple should its voters choose to elect a radical candidate

00:08:00.980 to replace the current Democrat mayor, Eric Adams.

00:08:04.980 The president said, and I quote, he's a communist.

00:08:08.360 I think it's very bad for New York.

00:08:10.460 I don't know what he's going to get in, but he's a communist and he's a pure communist.

00:08:15.580 But let me say this, if he does get in, I'm going to be president.

00:08:19.240 He's going to have to do the right thing or he won't be getting any money.

00:08:22.660 He's got to do the right thing.

00:08:24.480 It's not really clear what the president meant by that,

00:08:26.940 but we did see where the Democrat candidate, Mr. Mamdami,

00:08:34.260 specifically said that white taxpayers should pay more than everyone else.

00:08:39.600 That's, by the way, highly unconstitutional and quite illegal.

00:08:44.160 Trump once said he never believed the country would elect a socialist.

00:08:48.620 It's shocking that I would have assumed that,

00:08:51.960 but I used to say we will never have a socialist's country.

00:08:54.820 No, perhaps not, but we will have a communist because he, Mamdami, is a communist 0.82

00:09:00.840 and it's likely that he will be mayor.

00:09:03.340 So I was very surprised when I said I never heard of him.

00:09:06.340 I don't know who he is.

00:09:07.560 He's a radical left lunatic.

00:09:10.120 That's who he is.

00:09:11.640 You know, honestly, the Mamdami phenomena is based on younger voters, 0.99

00:09:17.300 many of whom don't really even know what the candidate stands for.

00:09:21.000 Very much like Barack Obama promising hope and change.

00:09:26.020 And in a weird way, kind of like Donald Trump running as an outsider

00:09:29.600 against an entrenched, broken system,

00:09:32.880 Mamdami is poised to be the front runner in the current race for mayor.

00:09:37.940 And he could very well have a split opposition.

00:09:41.720 At this juncture, I do not see the Republican candidate,

00:09:45.060 Curtis Sliwa, the current incumbent mayor, Eric Adams,

00:09:50.420 who's now running as an independent,

00:09:52.840 and quite possibly former governor Andrew Cuomo,

00:09:56.660 who also filed as independent, dropping out of the race.

00:10:00.440 This three-way split could clear the way for the election of a radical leftist mayor

00:10:07.180 who has openly said that he wants to defund the police

00:10:11.120 and release everyone in Rikers Island

00:10:14.100 because he says that violence is a construct, whatever that means.

00:10:21.500 I find it extraordinarily dangerous.

00:10:25.220 And probably the biggest win yet for the Trump administration,

00:10:28.620 the Supreme Court ruled last Friday

00:10:31.180 that the use of nationwide injunctions is no longer permissible.

00:10:36.020 In other words, having a local district judge

00:10:39.800 issue this sweeping order that affects the entire country

00:10:43.640 is unconstitutional.

00:10:46.520 In a widely anticipated decision

00:10:48.460 stemming from President Trump's executive order

00:10:50.740 seeking to end birthright citizenship,

00:10:54.000 the high court finally said that universal orders

00:10:57.420 likely exceed the equitable authority

00:10:59.980 that Congress has granted to the federal courts.

00:11:02.920 Shockingly, Justice Amy Comey Barrett

00:11:06.780 authored the majority opinion for the 6-3 court decision

00:11:10.760 with the liberal justices in dissent.

00:11:14.380 The court granted the Trump administration's request

00:11:17.200 to narrow the reach of the injunctions

00:11:19.540 blocking the president's executive order

00:11:21.840 while proceeding to move forward

00:11:23.700 only to the extent that the injunctions are broader than necessary

00:11:27.240 to provide complete belief.

00:11:29.520 We have seen this again and again.

00:11:32.420 Local district court judges

00:11:34.200 ruling that the president

00:11:35.280 doesn't have the authority

00:11:36.840 to deport dangerous criminal illegals. 0.82

00:11:41.180 We saw another district court

00:11:43.500 arguing that the president

00:11:45.420 does not have the authority

00:11:47.240 to negotiate

00:11:48.360 tariff deals

00:11:51.040 with other countries.

00:11:52.860 This is nothing less than judicial tyranny.

00:11:55.880 It is nothing less than leftist groups

00:11:58.960 who bring these lawsuits

00:12:00.140 forum shopping to find a friendly

00:12:03.040 left-wing partisan judge

00:12:05.480 and trying to block the mandate

00:12:08.000 of the American people

00:12:09.120 in the last presidential election.

00:12:11.680 This is perhaps the biggest win

00:12:14.120 for Donald Trump

00:12:15.260 and it clears the way

00:12:17.920 for him to implement

00:12:20.360 the America First agenda.

00:12:22.680 Interesting to see the Supreme Court

00:12:25.620 and the way it came down.

00:12:27.440 The left is going crazy

00:12:29.460 because this really was

00:12:30.880 their last stand.

00:12:32.960 At a White House press conference

00:12:34.120 President Trump praised this

00:12:35.980 as a monumental victory

00:12:37.500 for the Constitution

00:12:38.420 separation of powers

00:12:40.220 and yes

00:12:41.100 the rule of law.

00:12:42.900 The court's ruling came

00:12:44.080 in a trio of emergency appeals

00:12:46.400 by the Trump administration

00:12:47.960 arising out of the president's

00:12:49.340 executive orders

00:12:50.160 seeking to end

00:12:51.300 the 14th Amendment's 0.58

00:12:52.700 guarantee of birthright citizenship

00:12:54.840 which means that

00:12:55.820 everyone born in the United States

00:12:57.520 is a citizen

00:12:58.360 regardless of their parents'

00:13:00.700 immigration status.

00:13:02.340 We understand that

00:13:03.240 there were people

00:13:04.100 who came here

00:13:04.980 who were not U.S. citizens

00:13:06.400 who came to the United States

00:13:07.520 long enough to have a birth

00:13:10.500 so that that child

00:13:12.220 could become a U.S. citizen

00:13:13.700 and get all the benefits

00:13:15.520 there are four.

00:13:17.180 The Justice Department

00:13:17.960 has asked the Supreme Court

00:13:19.040 to narrow the scope

00:13:20.020 of these three separate injunctions

00:13:21.900 that block the implementation

00:13:23.320 of the president's policy

00:13:25.240 regarding legal challenges

00:13:28.900 brought by 22 states

00:13:30.340 immigrants' rights groups

00:13:31.860 and seven individuals.

00:13:34.020 This was a smashing victory

00:13:35.540 for the U.S. Constitution

00:13:36.780 and the rule of law.

00:13:38.640 I'm Roger Stone.

00:13:39.780 This is The Stone Zone.

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00:14:16.960 And we're back

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00:14:19.260 Over the weekend

00:14:20.100 the Senate advanced

00:14:21.220 the budget reconciliation

00:14:22.500 legislation

00:14:23.560 over the Big Beautiful Bill

00:14:26.160 with Vice President J.D. Vance

00:14:28.800 coming in to break a tie

00:14:31.000 past 51-49.

00:14:33.720 The Big Beautiful Bill

00:14:34.960 is now one step closer

00:14:36.380 to funding ICE,

00:14:38.180 cutting taxes,

00:14:38.960 and advancing President Trump's agenda.

00:14:41.720 So I have pointed out

00:14:42.720 on this show

00:14:44.020 and in The Stone Zone repeatedly

00:14:45.560 that the tax cut alone

00:14:48.220 is the biggest single tax cut

00:14:50.600 in American history.

00:14:51.680 It was originally passed

00:14:52.720 during President Donald Trump's

00:14:54.320 first term,

00:14:55.080 but it has to be renewed

00:14:56.540 and to go into effect

00:14:57.900 in January.

00:14:58.780 Let's look at it

00:14:59.580 the other way around.

00:15:00.920 If this bill does not pass,

00:15:02.960 the American people

00:15:03.860 will have a 68% increase

00:15:07.020 in federal income tax rates.

00:15:09.640 And no,

00:15:10.300 the tax cuts are not

00:15:11.420 just for the rich.

00:15:13.180 You've been listening

00:15:13.760 to Bernie Sanders

00:15:14.580 if you believe that.

00:15:15.940 They're for all Americans.

00:15:17.380 If you look at it historically,

00:15:19.240 every time we have cut

00:15:20.840 federal income tax rates,

00:15:22.440 whether it was under Donald Trump,

00:15:24.120 whether it was under

00:15:24.960 Ronald Reagan,

00:15:25.880 or whether it was

00:15:26.740 under John F. Kennedy,

00:15:28.460 there's actually been

00:15:29.460 a surge in federal revenues.

00:15:31.620 So those liberals

00:15:33.260 like Robert Reich,

00:15:34.820 I went to high school

00:15:35.500 with that guy.

00:15:36.240 Remember him?

00:15:37.040 He was, I think,

00:15:38.080 the Secretary of Commerce

00:15:39.660 under Bill Clinton.

00:15:41.640 He insists that our deficits

00:15:43.200 are caused by tax cuts

00:15:45.580 on the American people.

00:15:46.800 No, deficits and inflation

00:15:48.960 are caused by too much spending.

00:15:52.340 Now, there is no question

00:15:53.620 that we do need to cut spending

00:15:55.780 in addition to the tax cuts

00:15:57.780 that are encumplenced

00:15:58.920 in the big, beautiful bill.

00:16:01.640 But at the same time,

00:16:03.580 we also do away

00:16:05.280 with the tax on tips,

00:16:06.940 the tax on Social Security,

00:16:08.640 and we include a tax credit

00:16:10.700 for those folks

00:16:12.400 who go out and buy a car

00:16:14.200 or a truck

00:16:14.960 that was made in America.

00:16:17.560 The big, beautiful bill

00:16:18.720 is not perfect.

00:16:19.840 Nobody says it is.

00:16:21.040 I particularly object

00:16:22.140 to the sections

00:16:23.360 regarding artificial intelligence

00:16:25.940 and restricting the states

00:16:27.660 from regulating it

00:16:28.960 for a 10-year period.

00:16:30.540 I've been a victim

00:16:31.280 of artificial intelligence.

00:16:32.800 You can see dozens of videos

00:16:34.900 online of me saying things

00:16:36.280 that, well,

00:16:36.900 I never actually said.

00:16:38.660 It's pretty scary

00:16:39.480 and it has to be regulated

00:16:41.340 in my opinion.

00:16:42.560 But it is crucial

00:16:43.820 that we pass

00:16:45.620 the big, beautiful bill.

00:16:47.340 Also included in there

00:16:48.600 is the funding

00:16:49.780 for what President Trump

00:16:51.460 calls the Golden Dome.

00:16:53.700 That is the strategic

00:16:55.480 defense initiative

00:16:56.460 that would protect America

00:16:57.720 from incoming ICBM missiles,

00:17:01.580 an absolute necessity.

00:17:03.520 You're listening

00:17:03.940 to The Stone Zone.

00:17:05.280 We'll be right back

00:17:06.060 with Kenny Cody.

00:17:07.060 He's the opinion editor

00:17:08.080 of Human Events,

00:17:09.220 also serves as chairman

00:17:10.880 of his local Republican Party

00:17:13.420 in Tennessee.

00:17:14.700 He's going to talk to us

00:17:15.820 about the Panikins

00:17:16.920 and how President Trump

00:17:19.280 has prosecuted

00:17:20.320 the war with Iran.

00:17:23.180 I think it has been brilliant

00:17:24.720 because it is not

00:17:26.100 about regime shame.

00:17:27.520 It is not about boots

00:17:28.820 on the ground.

00:17:29.620 It is not about endless war,

00:17:31.760 but it is about effectively

00:17:33.660 stopping the Iranians 1.00

00:17:35.380 from having a nuclear weapon

00:17:37.240 that they would share

00:17:38.520 with their proxies.

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00:17:46.640 The Stone Zone

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00:17:50.480 And we're back

00:17:53.800 in the Stone Zone.

00:17:55.420 I'm your genial host,

00:17:57.100 Roger Stone.

00:17:57.860 Joining me now

00:17:58.620 is Kenny Cody.

00:18:00.060 He's the opinion editor

00:18:01.100 for Human Events,

00:18:02.760 one of the most influential

00:18:04.900 conservative media outlets

00:18:07.240 in the country,

00:18:08.720 going all the way back

00:18:09.600 to the days

00:18:10.280 of Barry Goldwater.

00:18:11.800 And he also serves

00:18:13.400 as chairman

00:18:13.940 of the Cock County,

00:18:14.920 Tennessee Republican Party.

00:18:16.260 He's written

00:18:16.660 for various conservative outlets,

00:18:18.700 including

00:18:19.120 the Washington Examiner,

00:18:20.480 the Daily Wire,

00:18:21.440 Town Hall,

00:18:22.540 Newsweek,

00:18:23.100 and many others.

00:18:24.780 You've seen him

00:18:25.360 with Jack Posobiec.

00:18:26.660 You've seen him

00:18:27.120 with Matt Gaetz.

00:18:28.220 But today we have him

00:18:29.400 in the Stone Zone.

00:18:30.740 Kenny, welcome.

00:18:31.960 Hey, Mr. Stone.

00:18:32.620 How are you, brother?

00:18:33.380 It's great to be with you.

00:18:35.140 I'll tell you one thing

00:18:35.820 I find disconcerting.

00:18:37.260 I can understand debate

00:18:39.260 within the MAGA constituency,

00:18:42.320 which is, let's face it,

00:18:43.500 much larger

00:18:44.160 than the Republican Party,

00:18:45.160 prior to the president

00:18:46.400 making a very difficult decision.

00:18:48.600 But keeping his word

00:18:50.360 and deciding

00:18:51.200 to strike Iran 0.99

00:18:52.800 to stop them

00:18:53.580 from having

00:18:54.640 a nuclear bomb.

00:18:56.820 He said 15 times

00:18:58.760 during the campaign

00:19:00.140 that he would not allow

00:19:02.140 the Iranians

00:19:02.860 to develop

00:19:03.420 a nuclear weapon.

00:19:05.620 And Donald Trump

00:19:06.260 is a man

00:19:06.920 who says

00:19:07.840 what he means

00:19:08.480 and means

00:19:09.240 what he says.

00:19:10.280 There was a healthy debate

00:19:11.420 inside the MAGA community

00:19:13.280 because,

00:19:14.060 let's face it,

00:19:14.560 the president

00:19:15.020 ran as the

00:19:15.880 the peace candidate.

00:19:17.640 He ran as an opponent

00:19:20.080 to endless foreign war.

00:19:23.200 When he was in Riyadh recently,

00:19:25.400 he specifically denounced

00:19:27.080 a foreign policy

00:19:28.120 based on regime change,

00:19:30.480 which has clearly not worked.

00:19:32.640 But now,

00:19:33.700 in the wake of what I think

00:19:35.000 was the correct decision,

00:19:37.080 and by reading your latest piece

00:19:38.940 at Human Events,

00:19:39.600 you agree with me,

00:19:40.360 what I see is

00:19:41.900 infighting in the ranks.

00:19:43.500 You see

00:19:43.900 Mark Levin

00:19:45.440 attacking Steve Bannon.

00:19:47.280 You see

00:19:47.700 Laura Loomer

00:19:50.080 attacking

00:19:50.820 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:19:52.460 You see

00:19:52.940 Tucker Carlson

00:19:56.120 being attacked

00:19:57.080 all the way around.

00:19:58.400 I think this is

00:19:59.480 counterproductive now.

00:20:01.520 I think it is time

00:20:02.560 to rally around

00:20:03.980 the commander-in-chief

00:20:05.480 who I think

00:20:06.120 has made the right decision.

00:20:07.600 I support the president,

00:20:09.020 and I come from that

00:20:10.860 Ron Paul wing

00:20:13.500 of the Republican Party

00:20:14.560 that says

00:20:16.160 that I'm a non-interventionist.

00:20:19.660 I'm not a big fan

00:20:20.640 of the neocons,

00:20:21.580 certainly not a big fan

00:20:22.720 of the war in Iraq

00:20:24.260 or the war in Afghanistan.

00:20:25.960 Look,

00:20:26.200 I'm the guy

00:20:26.640 who wrote

00:20:27.060 The Bush Crime Family 0.82

00:20:28.340 as a book,

00:20:29.480 which you can still get online.

00:20:31.840 So,

00:20:32.280 how do you see this,

00:20:34.340 I don't want to call it

00:20:35.240 a fissure,

00:20:35.900 but this disagreement

00:20:36.880 in the family

00:20:37.940 that is MAGA?

00:20:39.580 Well,

00:20:40.120 I think there's

00:20:40.900 a big difference

00:20:41.560 between the debate

00:20:42.460 before the strikes

00:20:43.700 and afterwards.

00:20:45.740 Beforehand,

00:20:46.300 I understand the idea

00:20:47.600 that we didn't want

00:20:48.380 to have war with Iran,

00:20:49.540 we didn't want to

00:20:50.480 put troops on the ground,

00:20:52.400 boots on the ground

00:20:53.320 over in Iran,

00:20:54.240 have that regime change term

00:20:56.620 and have that regime change war

00:20:58.440 that so many neocons

00:20:59.900 and those who are part

00:21:01.860 of those war crime families 0.89

00:21:03.720 that we talk about

00:21:04.500 all the time.

00:21:05.140 But after the strikes,

00:21:06.660 I think it's pretty clear

00:21:07.660 to see we did our job.

00:21:09.600 We took out

00:21:10.120 the nuclear facilities.

00:21:11.300 We made those

00:21:12.400 certain strikes.

00:21:13.260 We brought peace

00:21:14.520 to the table.

00:21:15.120 We have a ceasefire

00:21:16.040 with Iran and Israel now.

00:21:17.760 And I think that we have

00:21:18.880 came to a point

00:21:19.580 where that was okay.

00:21:21.180 Now,

00:21:21.380 after the strikes,

00:21:22.320 you saw all those

00:21:23.220 conversations,

00:21:24.140 you know,

00:21:24.660 we should have done

00:21:25.440 the strikes.

00:21:26.020 We should have struck

00:21:26.680 it all.

00:21:27.120 And I think that's nonsense.

00:21:28.580 I enjoyed the debate

00:21:29.980 that we were kind of

00:21:30.620 talking about

00:21:31.200 before all that happened.

00:21:32.280 And I think that,

00:21:33.120 you know,

00:21:33.860 during Trump's first term,

00:21:35.440 he had people around him

00:21:36.860 that probably didn't want war.

00:21:38.660 You had people like

00:21:39.080 Rex Tillerson.

00:21:40.240 You had people

00:21:41.040 like John Bolton

00:21:42.300 that were in that

00:21:43.160 first Trump cabinet

00:21:44.140 that were going to

00:21:44.660 push for regime change.

00:21:45.840 They were going to

00:21:46.200 push for boots on the ground

00:21:47.280 in terms of foreign policy.

00:21:48.500 But now,

00:21:49.260 you have a

00:21:49.940 minds of level heads

00:21:52.180 that are currently

00:21:52.960 in the Trump administration

00:21:53.960 that are going to

00:21:54.960 make only the moves

00:21:56.340 that are going to bring

00:21:57.200 peace to the United States,

00:21:58.900 peace in the Middle East,

00:22:00.020 and broker deals

00:22:01.300 that are going to be fair

00:22:02.400 in terms of

00:22:02.980 American foreign policy.

00:22:04.200 And now I think

00:22:04.960 these conversations

00:22:05.700 are counterproductive.

00:22:07.000 I think before

00:22:07.880 big decisions like this,

00:22:09.580 before those are made,

00:22:11.520 those are when

00:22:12.500 those debates

00:22:13.040 and conversations

00:22:13.860 need to be had.

00:22:15.000 No war with Iran.

00:22:16.380 We need to come

00:22:17.020 to a peace agreement.

00:22:17.900 We need to broker peace.

00:22:19.200 All those things are good.

00:22:20.800 But after those things

00:22:22.360 have happened,

00:22:22.780 after the strikes,

00:22:23.440 and when it's clear

00:22:24.180 that we're not going to have

00:22:24.980 a regime change

00:22:25.860 to foreign policy,

00:22:27.140 what is the use

00:22:28.480 of now calling

00:22:29.260 these strikes a mistake,

00:22:30.380 these have obviously worked,

00:22:32.200 they're obviously successful,

00:22:33.520 and marketing is a quick

00:22:34.840 infighting and support

00:22:35.980 the president's move

00:22:36.740 because it has worked

00:22:37.860 and it's going to

00:22:38.600 eventually broker peace

00:22:39.860 if it hasn't already

00:22:41.060 between Iran and Israel.

00:22:42.540 I could not agree more.

00:22:44.440 I mean, look,

00:22:44.760 the president has been

00:22:45.620 very measured.

00:22:46.780 He did not take out

00:22:47.840 their oil refineries.

00:22:49.580 He did not take out

00:22:50.820 their capacity

00:22:51.500 to continue to sell fuel.

00:22:53.560 He did not hit

00:22:54.660 the Ayatollah with a drone,

00:22:57.280 which, based on the technology

00:22:58.700 he used in the takedown

00:22:59.840 of Soleimani,

00:23:00.620 I'm sure he could do

00:23:01.560 because he's a religious leader.

00:23:03.340 And it was interesting

00:23:04.540 that within hours

00:23:05.920 of the strike,

00:23:07.320 Secretary of State

00:23:08.220 Marco Rubio

00:23:09.120 and the president

00:23:09.980 were both calling

00:23:11.220 for the Iranians

00:23:12.240 to come back

00:23:12.760 to the peace table.

00:23:13.800 Donald Trump prefers

00:23:14.920 a negotiation over chaos.

00:23:17.160 He prefers commerce

00:23:19.200 over chaos.

00:23:20.600 And he proved it yet again.

00:23:22.480 So this limited operation,

00:23:25.480 which I agree with you,

00:23:26.320 was extraordinarily successful,

00:23:27.960 should be supported

00:23:29.140 by all Americans.

00:23:30.580 Now, Natasha Bertrand,

00:23:32.460 who is perhaps

00:23:33.220 the single most dishonest

00:23:34.940 quote-unquote reporter,

00:23:36.660 now with CNN,

00:23:38.540 someone who was being fed

00:23:40.260 constantly by the rogue CIA

00:23:42.440 operative and director

00:23:44.120 John Brennan,

00:23:45.480 a woman who got the cell phone 0.98

00:23:47.160 for special counsel

00:23:48.640 John Durham

00:23:49.760 and would badger him.

00:23:51.240 She's one of those

00:23:51.980 who pushed relentlessly

00:23:53.300 the Russian collusion hoax.

00:23:55.260 She's one of those

00:23:56.900 who said that

00:23:58.040 51 intelligence officers,

00:24:02.760 current and former,

00:24:03.980 said that Hunter Biden's laptop

00:24:05.860 was Russian information.

00:24:08.220 She's essentially

00:24:09.100 a congenital liar. 0.67

00:24:11.100 She's a Democrat operative.

00:24:13.060 She actually admitted to me

00:24:14.500 in an email

00:24:15.240 that Congressman Eric Swalwell

00:24:17.120 was in violation

00:24:18.340 of both the law

00:24:19.240 and the House rules,

00:24:20.800 sharing my classified testimony

00:24:22.580 with her,

00:24:23.620 trying to nitpick me about it.

00:24:25.680 She claims that CNN

00:24:28.160 has some source

00:24:29.960 that tells them

00:24:31.260 that the strikes

00:24:32.380 on the Iranian facilities

00:24:34.480 in three locations in Iran

00:24:36.860 were ineffective

00:24:38.240 and that we did not

00:24:39.540 take down their capacity

00:24:42.200 to build a nuclear weapon.

00:24:44.380 I think this is right.

00:24:45.960 I also think that whoever,

00:24:48.500 if they really have a source,

00:24:49.980 who knows if they really do?

00:24:51.100 Sometimes they just make

00:24:52.120 this stuff up.

00:24:52.960 But whoever is supplying

00:24:55.080 that information

00:24:55.920 from inside the government,

00:24:57.320 they're breaking the law.

00:24:58.660 They ought to be found

00:24:59.480 and they ought to be prosecuted.

00:25:01.140 What do you think?

00:25:01.980 Absolutely.

00:25:02.740 And this is the entire idea

00:25:04.660 of why the mainstream media

00:25:05.780 is dishonest. 0.66

00:25:06.820 And to be honest with you,

00:25:08.340 I have no idea

00:25:09.040 who would leak that information,

00:25:10.240 but if I had to make

00:25:10.960 an educated guess,

00:25:12.320 it's those that will

00:25:13.060 regime change wars.

00:25:14.660 They want us to do more bombing.

00:25:16.280 They want us to be more

00:25:17.900 efficient.

00:25:18.320 They want us to attack

00:25:19.100 those old refineries,

00:25:20.180 as you just mentioned,

00:25:21.320 and they won't further war,

00:25:22.920 whether that's to line

00:25:23.600 their own pockets

00:25:24.300 with the military-industrial complex,

00:25:26.120 whether that is to just so weak

00:25:28.300 as they're bloodthirsty

00:25:29.400 and want more war.

00:25:31.040 Because all neocons

00:25:32.320 are not done in Washington.

00:25:33.700 Now, I think Pete Hexstep

00:25:35.420 has done a great job

00:25:36.120 in the Department of Defense.

00:25:37.320 Marco Rubio has done

00:25:38.020 a great job

00:25:38.600 as Secretary of State

00:25:39.620 and every other position

00:25:40.780 that he's accumulated

00:25:41.460 while being in office.

00:25:42.420 But there are still

00:25:44.320 those agents

00:25:45.300 within the federal government

00:25:46.760 that want us

00:25:47.700 to push forward

00:25:48.480 as you change,

00:25:49.300 that want us

00:25:49.760 to be the world police,

00:25:51.340 that want,

00:25:51.920 they want to go

00:25:53.040 so much further

00:25:54.340 than those strikes

00:25:55.620 that we perform in Iran.

00:25:56.700 Now, I think those were,

00:25:57.880 like I said,

00:25:58.520 sufficient.

00:25:59.380 I think they were successful.

00:26:01.000 I think that that's going

00:26:01.920 to broker a peace deal

00:26:02.960 between Iran,

00:26:03.920 Israel,

00:26:04.460 and we'll see

00:26:05.100 what other countries

00:26:05.920 come to the table

00:26:06.680 during the Abraham Accords.

00:26:07.800 But there are those

00:26:09.880 in the federal government

00:26:10.880 that are trying

00:26:12.080 to dissuade the media

00:26:13.000 into calling these

00:26:13.860 non-significant strikes

00:26:15.040 that we need further action,

00:26:16.580 that we need boots

00:26:17.200 on the ground,

00:26:18.320 need to strike oil refineries,

00:26:19.780 need to go out

00:26:20.100 to the Supreme Leader.

00:26:20.980 All of those things

00:26:22.120 are still on the table

00:26:23.760 for those neocons

00:26:25.600 still in the Department

00:26:26.620 of Defense

00:26:27.080 and other sectors

00:26:28.840 of Washington.

00:26:30.260 But I think

00:26:31.240 that it is so clear

00:26:32.900 that the media

00:26:34.320 is still the earpiece

00:26:36.160 of those establishment

00:26:37.560 neocons.

00:26:38.480 They are looking

00:26:39.160 for any reason

00:26:40.140 to dissuade Trump

00:26:41.700 to seem like

00:26:43.040 his actions

00:26:44.040 and his decisions

00:26:44.820 are so non-effective

00:26:47.700 when it comes

00:26:48.800 to this foreign policy,

00:26:50.520 but it has worked.

00:26:51.360 And they can't stand that.

00:26:52.480 They cannot stand

00:26:53.520 that this one move

00:26:55.760 has basically disabled

00:26:58.080 all of Iranian

00:26:59.100 nuclear capabilities

00:26:59.900 at least for the next

00:27:00.840 few decades.

00:27:01.880 They can't stand it.

00:27:02.800 They wanted to use

00:27:03.840 this reason

00:27:04.680 to get into another war,

00:27:06.640 to make Trump

00:27:07.740 look weak.

00:27:08.740 If he doesn't go

00:27:09.920 and have further steps

00:27:11.500 that were going

00:27:11.920 to look weak,

00:27:12.660 they cannot stand

00:27:13.520 that this has been

00:27:14.100 successful.

00:27:14.800 They can't stand

00:27:15.480 that their pockets

00:27:16.160 are not going to be

00:27:16.620 filled with the blood

00:27:17.900 money from the military

00:27:18.840 industrial complex

00:27:19.940 and they're furious.

00:27:21.360 And that's why

00:27:21.660 they're using people

00:27:22.260 like Jennifer Griffin. 0.87

00:27:22.980 They're using people

00:27:23.560 that are mainstream

00:27:25.920 media earpieces

00:27:27.160 that are trying

00:27:28.360 to dissuade

00:27:29.060 the Trump agenda.

00:27:29.960 And the Trump agenda

00:27:30.560 is America first, 0.98

00:27:31.780 is the military

00:27:32.380 industrial complex last,

00:27:33.700 and it is piece

00:27:34.600 for a strip.

00:27:35.380 Yeah, Kenny,

00:27:36.120 look, I know

00:27:38.360 that I don't get

00:27:39.180 my news from CNN

00:27:40.280 for the same reason

00:27:41.220 I don't drink

00:27:41.940 out of the toilet.

00:27:43.640 And I saw speculation

00:27:44.940 that Mark Warner,

00:27:46.600 the millionaire

00:27:47.660 senator from Virginia

00:27:49.060 who bought himself

00:27:49.800 the governorship

00:27:50.440 and then a Senate seat

00:27:52.160 and who was

00:27:53.120 a constant leaker

00:27:54.060 during the Russian

00:27:54.880 collusion hoax

00:27:55.860 and who produced

00:27:57.340 a Senate Intelligence

00:27:58.820 Committee report

00:27:59.880 on Russian collusion.

00:28:01.800 There are 19 references

00:28:03.480 to me in that report.

00:28:04.680 Every one of them

00:28:05.280 is false.

00:28:06.200 It's a cotton-paste job. 0.94

00:28:08.400 Just because something

00:28:09.280 is reported

00:28:09.760 by the Huffington Post

00:28:10.880 doesn't make it true,

00:28:12.440 Senator.

00:28:13.320 This guy's been caught

00:28:14.560 leaking before,

00:28:16.580 caught red-handed.

00:28:18.220 My sources tell me

00:28:19.260 that this is where

00:28:20.680 this information came from.

00:28:22.580 But you're right.

00:28:24.040 The American people,

00:28:25.020 and they show it

00:28:26.160 in the ratings,

00:28:27.120 they're not believing CNN.

00:28:29.320 They're certainly not

00:28:30.340 believing MSNBC.

00:28:33.380 I mean,

00:28:33.760 yesterday I was

00:28:34.740 in a Barnes & Noble,

00:28:36.040 which, by the way,

00:28:36.480 they're opening

00:28:36.780 a bunch of new stores.

00:28:37.740 That's really good news.

00:28:38.980 Bookstores again.

00:28:40.220 And I saw the new book

00:28:42.020 by Rachel Maddow.

00:28:45.200 And it's about

00:28:46.500 America's headlong

00:28:49.820 movement towards fascism.

00:28:52.860 You have to stop for a minute

00:28:53.940 and say,

00:28:54.320 wait a minute.

00:28:55.600 The people who try

00:28:57.560 to keep candidates

00:28:58.380 off the ballot,

00:28:59.560 the people who try

00:29:00.580 to put their political

00:29:01.400 opponents in jail,

00:29:03.160 the people who try

00:29:04.260 to censor free speech,

00:29:06.620 the people who jail

00:29:08.220 American citizens

00:29:09.240 over their religious beliefs,

00:29:11.360 they are the fascists.

00:29:13.400 She is a fascist.

00:29:15.480 It's absolutely true.

00:29:16.660 It's right out of

00:29:17.180 Alinsky's rules.

00:29:18.580 Remember,

00:29:19.000 they always accuse us

00:29:20.540 of exactly what

00:29:22.020 they themselves are doing.

00:29:25.080 And as the great

00:29:25.700 Ronald Reagan said,

00:29:27.020 if fascism ever

00:29:28.060 comes to America,

00:29:29.020 it will come

00:29:30.200 in the guise

00:29:31.080 of liberalism.

00:29:32.340 Absolutely true.

00:29:33.660 Absolutely.

00:29:34.380 And, you know,

00:29:35.060 the fascists are the ones

00:29:36.120 that are trying

00:29:36.600 to silence the majority.

00:29:38.380 You know,

00:29:38.780 we use populism

00:29:40.540 and nationalism

00:29:41.240 to such a successful

00:29:42.420 extent that the left

00:29:43.300 can't stand it

00:29:44.140 because, you know,

00:29:45.160 they're always the party

00:29:46.240 of the working man.

00:29:47.380 They're always the party

00:29:48.200 of the voice

00:29:49.000 of the voiceless.

00:29:49.960 And now that MAGA

00:29:50.840 has taken control

00:29:51.740 of the Republican Party,

00:29:52.720 we are now in control

00:29:54.840 of looking

00:29:55.920 to the mainstream narrative,

00:29:57.500 looking to the

00:29:58.080 independent voices,

00:29:59.240 looking at those

00:30:00.340 who are sharing

00:30:01.460 the issues

00:30:02.180 that are most central

00:30:03.240 to them.

00:30:04.280 And MAGA is using

00:30:05.200 that to connect

00:30:06.020 with Generation Z.

00:30:07.240 We're using that

00:30:07.620 to connect with

00:30:08.040 independent voters,

00:30:09.340 union workers,

00:30:10.620 those who will never

00:30:11.500 vote Republican

00:30:12.020 in their lifetime

00:30:12.760 unless they were

00:30:13.600 actually spoken to

00:30:14.480 in the way

00:30:14.760 the Republican Party

00:30:15.360 currently does

00:30:15.960 because of MAGA.

00:30:17.100 And they can't

00:30:17.760 stand that,

00:30:18.680 Mr. Stone.

00:30:19.080 They cannot stand

00:30:20.960 the fact

00:30:21.480 that we are actually

00:30:23.300 getting through

00:30:23.760 to the people

00:30:24.200 because we were

00:30:24.760 always the party

00:30:25.620 of the country clubs,

00:30:27.180 the bankers,

00:30:28.340 Wall Street.

00:30:29.180 But now we're the party

00:30:30.060 of the working man.

00:30:31.000 And that's what

00:30:31.380 they're calling us fascists

00:30:32.500 because we're using

00:30:33.300 populism and nationalism

00:30:34.440 to our advantage

00:30:35.780 to get through

00:30:36.600 to the American people.

00:30:37.980 They're the ones

00:30:38.800 that are calling us fascists

00:30:39.900 when we're the ones

00:30:40.500 getting access

00:30:40.980 to free speech.

00:30:41.960 We're the ones

00:30:42.740 that are providing

00:30:43.620 alternative citizen-ran media

00:30:45.660 to the general public

00:30:47.100 instead of the mainstream

00:30:47.860 media narrative

00:30:48.500 that is controlled

00:30:49.300 by corporations,

00:30:50.840 by mainstream media,

00:30:51.900 and by those

00:30:52.960 deep state federal agents

00:30:54.400 that are trying

00:30:55.260 to use the mainstream media

00:30:56.680 as mouthpieces

00:30:58.040 for their agenda.

00:30:59.240 We are actually

00:30:59.940 talking to the

00:31:00.640 American people.

00:31:01.500 We're going out

00:31:01.980 to the streets

00:31:02.480 ensuring what kind

00:31:03.660 of issues

00:31:04.080 are the most central

00:31:05.200 to what they want

00:31:06.240 to see in political

00:31:07.040 activism,

00:31:07.900 and we're succeeding.

00:31:08.960 That's why we're

00:31:09.600 the fascists to them.

00:31:10.620 We're not using

00:31:11.040 government power

00:31:11.760 as they did against us.

00:31:13.040 We're trying to actually

00:31:14.360 involve the American voter

00:31:16.100 in foreign policy,

00:31:17.900 in domestic policy,

00:31:19.320 and in every single

00:31:20.020 policy that MAGA

00:31:20.960 stands for,

00:31:21.820 and they cannot stand

00:31:22.860 in that.

00:31:23.120 That's exactly

00:31:23.580 what they're calling

00:31:24.060 this fascist.

00:31:24.580 Yeah, I think it continues

00:31:26.400 to be a mistake

00:31:27.260 to view our American

00:31:28.640 politics now

00:31:29.500 in terms of Republicans

00:31:30.440 and Democrats.

00:31:31.120 That's really not

00:31:31.980 the divide in America.

00:31:33.620 It is really a divide

00:31:36.060 between the authoritarian

00:31:37.640 left and everybody else

00:31:40.480 with common sense.

00:31:41.460 President Trump forged

00:31:44.120 a new coalition,

00:31:46.380 a new governing coalition

00:31:47.480 that starts with Republicans

00:31:49.440 but adds independence

00:31:51.080 and disaffected common sense

00:31:54.200 Democrats like Robert F.

00:31:55.500 Kennedy Jr.,

00:31:56.700 formerly Tulsi Gabbard,

00:31:58.720 Governor Rob Blagojevich,

00:32:00.100 and others,

00:32:01.240 in this new working majority.

00:32:04.780 And then, of course,

00:32:05.920 he made extraordinary

00:32:07.000 inroads among Hispanic Americans,

00:32:08.860 among black Americans,

00:32:11.140 among younger Americans.

00:32:13.060 They see a new political dynamic

00:32:16.360 and it scares the daylights

00:32:18.580 out of them.

00:32:19.820 Thematically,

00:32:21.020 interestingly enough,

00:32:22.800 Zoran Mamdami

00:32:24.080 has tried to,

00:32:26.760 I think,

00:32:27.720 harness that same

00:32:29.060 outsider energy

00:32:30.560 while at the same time

00:32:32.580 masking the authoritarian

00:32:34.620 and very dangerous nature

00:32:36.860 of his actual plans

00:32:39.040 for the Big Apple.

00:32:40.740 If you're just tuning in, folks,

00:32:42.040 we're talking to

00:32:42.800 Kenny Cody.

00:32:44.020 He is the opinion editor

00:32:45.680 for Human Events

00:32:46.780 and we're breaking down

00:32:48.940 the politics of the day.

00:32:50.680 You're in the Stone Zone.

00:32:52.220 It's the place to be.

00:32:53.760 So stick with us

00:32:54.600 and we'll be right back

00:32:55.500 with Kenny Cody

00:32:56.300 and we're going to talk

00:32:57.420 about the significance

00:32:58.400 of this new

00:32:59.880 Supreme Court ruling

00:33:01.020 that says that

00:33:02.020 lower court judges

00:33:03.260 can no longer issue

00:33:04.780 universal nationwide injunctions

00:33:06.680 to try to stop

00:33:08.020 the president

00:33:08.900 from carrying out

00:33:09.660 the mandate

00:33:10.240 of the 2024 election.

00:33:13.500 Whatever you do,

00:33:14.060 don't touch that dial

00:33:15.000 because, yes, indeed,

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00:33:17.620 The Stone Zone

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00:33:24.400 The Stone Zone

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00:33:30.340 And we're back

00:33:31.640 in the Stone Zone.

00:33:33.120 We're talking to Kenny Cody.

00:33:34.660 He's the opinion editor

00:33:35.660 at Human Events.

00:33:37.120 And we're talking about

00:33:38.260 the political news

00:33:39.620 of the day.

00:33:41.020 The big, beautiful bill

00:33:41.920 is getting closer

00:33:42.560 to passing Congress.

00:33:44.240 Kenny, I think this bill

00:33:45.580 is crucial.

00:33:46.420 No one said it's perfect,

00:33:47.700 but it's going to be improved

00:33:49.220 in conference.

00:33:51.060 The way this works,

00:33:51.860 it would have to pass

00:33:52.660 the Senate,

00:33:53.580 then go to a full vote

00:33:56.600 of the Senate,

00:33:57.560 then ultimately go to conference.

00:34:00.700 It gets smoothed out

00:34:02.080 in terms of the version

00:34:03.100 passed by the House.

00:34:04.040 And then it goes back

00:34:05.080 to the House

00:34:05.580 for repassage.

00:34:06.820 We would have

00:34:07.360 the biggest tax cut

00:34:08.660 in American history

00:34:09.820 re-upped for January.

00:34:11.860 I think there's things

00:34:12.920 in this bill I don't love,

00:34:14.040 but I'm hoping that

00:34:14.740 they will get eliminated

00:34:15.840 in the process.

00:34:17.020 But so far, so good.

00:34:18.680 What do you think?

00:34:19.500 Yeah, I mean,

00:34:19.940 I think it's central

00:34:20.820 to the America First agenda.

00:34:22.240 I mean, when we're talking

00:34:23.100 about extending

00:34:23.920 the biggest tax cuts

00:34:24.900 in American history,

00:34:25.660 we're talking about funding

00:34:26.680 for mass deportation.

00:34:28.080 We're talking about things

00:34:29.000 that are including that bill.

00:34:30.060 It's everything

00:34:30.340 that Trump ran on.

00:34:31.240 One of the main things

00:34:32.540 that he campaigned on

00:34:33.340 was that one big

00:34:34.400 beautiful bill statement.

00:34:35.580 He said,

00:34:35.980 we're not going to pass

00:34:36.760 all these individual bills

00:34:37.920 that are going to take

00:34:38.680 into the third

00:34:39.260 or fourth years

00:34:40.260 of my presidency

00:34:41.140 for us to implement

00:34:42.300 because it might get killed,

00:34:43.640 especially after the midterms.

00:34:44.900 So he wanted to get

00:34:45.500 all this done

00:34:46.020 within the first two years,

00:34:47.420 within really the first

00:34:48.120 few months of his presidency.

00:34:49.720 And like you said,

00:34:50.620 we're going to have to

00:34:50.980 cut some fat.

00:34:52.160 In this process,

00:34:53.300 going back and forth

00:34:54.000 from the Senate to the House,

00:34:54.920 you're going to hope

00:34:55.280 some things are kicked off.

00:34:56.360 But this isn't going to be

00:34:57.080 as good as you can get.

00:34:57.940 You know,

00:34:58.340 no piece of American

00:34:59.400 legislation with Congress

00:35:00.820 is ever going to be perfect.

00:35:02.440 But I think the state

00:35:03.080 accomplishes all

00:35:04.000 that we need to accomplish.

00:35:05.000 And when you put it on a scale,

00:35:06.300 it's going to be far more

00:35:07.200 positive for the American people

00:35:08.360 than it's going to be negative.

00:35:09.920 So I think it's a great bill.

00:35:11.420 I think it's as good

00:35:12.000 as we can get.

00:35:13.080 And I hope some things

00:35:13.740 are cut off

00:35:14.220 in between the transactions

00:35:15.360 from the Senate to the House.

00:35:16.460 I don't get too many guests

00:35:18.420 who are in Generation Z.

00:35:20.780 You've discussed

00:35:21.560 how Generation Z

00:35:22.640 wants to be able

00:35:23.300 to land a job

00:35:24.220 after they graduate college

00:35:25.540 or high school.

00:35:26.180 And the Republican Party

00:35:27.680 really needs to speak

00:35:28.740 to those concerns.

00:35:30.060 What measures do you think

00:35:31.400 would create greater opportunity

00:35:33.020 with these younger voters?

00:35:34.740 Well, I mean,

00:35:35.680 it's kind of like

00:35:36.340 what I was talking about

00:35:36.660 earlier, Mr. Stone.

00:35:37.560 It's just that usage

00:35:38.600 of populism.

00:35:39.540 I mean, I know you mentioned

00:35:40.880 at the end of last break

00:35:42.060 that Mamdani in New York 0.91

00:35:43.780 is much of a communist,

00:35:45.300 Marxist, radical Muslim 1.00

00:35:47.200 that he is.

00:35:48.240 He used populism

00:35:49.160 to his advantage.

00:35:50.160 And he used that,

00:35:51.180 the simple issues

00:35:52.160 such as reducing

00:35:53.420 India dishes

00:35:54.120 from $10 to $8.

00:35:55.000 and rent control,

00:35:57.240 you know,

00:35:57.400 making groceries cheaper

00:35:58.380 through communism,

00:35:59.340 but making groceries cheaper

00:36:00.540 and products cheaper

00:36:01.820 for the citizens

00:36:02.900 of New York.

00:36:03.880 You know,

00:36:04.120 these are things

00:36:04.760 that are at least

00:36:06.120 somewhat popular

00:36:06.940 with Generation Z

00:36:07.960 that are trying

00:36:08.540 to get jobs,

00:36:09.260 they're trying

00:36:09.580 to get an apartment,

00:36:10.340 trying to get a house,

00:36:11.200 trying to live

00:36:12.040 in a crowded city

00:36:13.160 that has high taxes

00:36:14.260 and high regulation.

00:36:15.940 And I think

00:36:17.080 that in that kind

00:36:18.100 of same way,

00:36:19.020 MAGA and the GOP

00:36:20.680 and the conservative movement

00:36:21.980 continue to utilize

00:36:23.640 populism.

00:36:24.700 Because as we talked

00:36:25.440 about,

00:36:25.560 I've talked about it

00:36:26.080 a lot before

00:36:26.980 in the last few years,

00:36:28.460 populism isn't an ideology,

00:36:29.900 it's a tool.

00:36:30.680 It's a way to try

00:36:32.020 to funnel ideas

00:36:33.300 to get through

00:36:34.760 to those voters

00:36:35.540 that would not

00:36:36.680 listen otherwise.

00:36:38.020 You know,

00:36:38.280 Generation Z,

00:36:39.440 independents,

00:36:40.540 working class voters

00:36:41.820 listen to populist standpoints

00:36:44.220 and at least communicate

00:36:45.560 with upper class

00:36:47.200 or high end politicians

00:36:48.480 through populist tropes.

00:36:50.420 and if you're able

00:36:51.160 to find out

00:36:51.840 what issues

00:36:52.580 are central

00:36:53.240 to Generation Z

00:36:54.500 such as getting jobs,

00:36:56.000 housing prices,

00:36:57.400 you know,

00:36:57.640 what job

00:36:58.440 are they going

00:36:58.780 to be able to get

00:36:59.420 after they graduate college

00:37:00.640 or after they go

00:37:01.500 to a trade school?

00:37:02.780 What jobs

00:37:03.600 are they going

00:37:04.020 to be able to get?

00:37:04.620 Are they going

00:37:04.880 to be able

00:37:05.080 to have a sustainable

00:37:05.760 future for their families

00:37:06.640 through American prosperity?

00:37:08.260 Those things

00:37:09.000 are what matter

00:37:09.540 to Generation Z.

00:37:10.460 Having a job,

00:37:11.500 having a family,

00:37:12.700 and trying to ensure

00:37:13.960 that that nuclear family

00:37:15.140 is sustained

00:37:16.620 through funds,

00:37:18.000 through income,

00:37:18.740 and through a good

00:37:20.200 living situation

00:37:21.120 through whatever region

00:37:22.100 they might live in

00:37:22.860 in the country.

00:37:23.760 So MAGA needs

00:37:24.940 to continue

00:37:25.280 to use populism

00:37:26.360 to get through

00:37:26.920 to Generation Z

00:37:27.760 in the same way

00:37:28.360 they've used it

00:37:29.040 to get through

00:37:29.700 to working class voters.

00:37:30.880 I think Vance,

00:37:31.580 Hawley, Trump,

00:37:32.400 and so many others

00:37:33.000 have done a very good job

00:37:34.080 in using those

00:37:35.020 populist mantras

00:37:35.720 to get into

00:37:36.080 the working class

00:37:36.820 and now we need

00:37:38.000 to use populism

00:37:38.940 to get through

00:37:39.600 to Generation Z.

00:37:40.600 All right,

00:37:41.000 I'm afraid we have

00:37:41.980 to leave it there.

00:37:43.100 I want to thank

00:37:43.820 our guest,

00:37:44.660 Kenny Cody,

00:37:45.380 who's the opinion

00:37:46.020 editor for Human Events.

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