The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone ｜ 06-30-25


Episode Stats

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Trump's wife, Lara Trump, enters the race for the U.S. Senate race in Tennessee, and President Trump calls on the Federal Reserve Chairman to slash interest rates to 1.5% or 2% to help the economy.


Transcript

00:00:00.120 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:05.880 You are entering the Stone Zone.
00:00:09.120 Exciting political news.
00:00:10.860 Eric Trump, the presidential son, tells the Financial Times
00:00:14.180 that he himself has not ruled out a race for president in 2028.
00:00:20.500 I think the political path would be an easy one, he said.
00:00:23.100 I know I could do it.
00:00:24.800 Would I want my kids to live the same experience?
00:00:27.480 Only time will tell.
00:00:28.820 Another Trump on the ballot in 2028?
00:00:32.000 I, for one, love it.
00:00:33.960 In the meantime, his wife, Lara Trump, is now considering a race for the U.S. Senate in Tennessee.
00:00:41.420 That's where the rhino Tom Tillis announced after voting against the big, beautiful bill in the U.S. Senate
00:00:49.140 that he would not stand for re-election.
00:00:51.900 Now, on this show months ago, when Tillis voted against Ed Martin,
00:00:58.820 also known as Eagle Ed Martin, to be the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia,
00:01:04.420 I called for Lara Trump to challenge Tillis.
00:01:07.980 Now I believe Lara Trump is in an excellent position,
00:01:11.320 not only to win the Republican nomination, but to hold that seat for the Republicans.
00:01:16.300 All news seems to be Trump today.
00:01:19.080 President Donald Trump yesterday called on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell
00:01:23.940 for artificially inflating interest rates and said they would be, should be,
00:01:28.600 less than half of what they are right now.
00:01:31.380 We have a bad Fed chairman, but other than that, it doesn't even matter.
00:01:35.480 The numbers are so good, it doesn't matter that he keeps the rates artificially high.
00:01:40.160 That's what Trump said on Sunday.
00:01:41.700 We should be at 1% or 2%.
00:01:44.220 The sad truth is, of course, that Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve cut rates
00:01:49.460 in order to facilitate Joe Biden's re-election when the inflation rate was quite different than today.
00:01:56.820 It was even lower.
00:01:58.940 So the politics of what Powell is doing, I think, is abundantly clear.
00:02:03.980 Meanwhile, the New York Post reports that Chairman Powell probably lied to Congress
00:02:11.620 about the $2.5 billion that they are using to revamp the central bank's palatial Washington headquarters.
00:02:22.220 Yes, you heard me right.
00:02:23.480 $2.5 billion paid for by, yes, you've got it, the taxpayers.
00:02:29.680 Powell said when he was asked by Senator Tim Scott, the Republican of South Carolina,
00:02:38.040 about the grilling, that there was no VIP dining room, there is no new marble,
00:02:44.360 there are no new special elevators.
00:02:47.240 Powell said under questioning from a powerful panel on Wednesday,
00:02:51.960 there's no new water features, no new beehives, and there's no roof terrace gardens.
00:02:57.660 But Powell, who is meanwhile facing heat from President Trump over his failure to slash interest rates,
00:03:04.400 directly contradicted the project's own planning documents, which were signed off by the government in 2021.
00:03:12.860 At this point, the American people need a cut in interest rates to facilitate the purchase of a home,
00:03:19.400 the purchase of a car, it's across the board.
00:03:22.720 The people, the taxpayers, seem to be left in the lurch here.
00:03:26.900 Today, on Too Social, the president again hammered Powell,
00:03:30.900 posting a list of world central bank rates, highlighting Switzerland and Japan as the top,
00:03:37.860 with interest rates of 0.25 and 0.5, respectively, saying with a note, this is where we should be.
00:03:45.820 Jerome, Too Late Powell, and his entire board should be ashamed of themselves
00:03:51.260 for allowing this to happen to the United States, wrote President Trump.
00:03:55.240 They have only one easiest and most prestigious jobs in America,
00:04:00.120 and they have failed, and they continue to do so.
00:04:03.160 If they were doing their job properly, our country would be saving trillions of dollars in interest costs.
00:04:10.140 The board just sits there and watches, so they are equally to blame.
00:04:14.020 We should be paying 1% interest or better, said the president.
00:04:17.540 Interestingly, at the bottom of the list, the United States sits next to Cameroon and Ecuadorial Guinea
00:04:24.500 at a current rate of 4.5%.
00:04:27.640 Trump also hand-wrote on the list,
00:04:30.740 Jerome, you are, as usual, too late.
00:04:34.440 You have cost the USA a fortune, and you continue to do so.
00:04:39.060 Our rate should be lower by a lot.
00:04:42.620 Hundreds of billions of dollars are being lost.
00:04:44.960 There is virtually no inflation.
00:04:48.180 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who is one of the standouts of the Trump cabinet, in my view,
00:04:54.360 outlined yesterday the options to replace Federal Reserve Jerome Powell as chairman.
00:05:00.840 One option being contemplated by the administration, Besson said,
00:05:04.180 is that President Trump appoints a new person to the Fed's Board of Governors
00:05:08.640 to fill a 14-year seat that opens up with the scheduled departure of Fed Governor Adriana Kugler on January 31st.
00:05:18.620 And that person will go on to be chair when Powell leaves in May.
00:05:23.400 Or, said Besson, we could appoint the new chair in May directly.
00:05:28.780 Unfortunately, that's just a two-year seat.
00:05:31.080 Last night, on True Social, President Trump pointed out how much the administration has already done
00:05:37.960 about the high price and markets that were handed to him by the Biden administration.
00:05:43.900 The Trump administration has gotten costs down very substantially for the American consumer,
00:05:50.220 said President Trump.
00:05:51.600 There's never been anything quite like this.
00:05:54.080 Meanwhile, President Trump announced that he will be attending the opening of the so-called
00:06:00.360 Alligator Alcatraz Detention Center in Florida this week.
00:06:05.800 The president's move comes as his administration and the state of Florida seek to build a remote detention center
00:06:12.720 to house illegal immigrants as they await deportation.
00:06:17.020 The site is expected to open with soft-sided holding units for hundreds of detainees
00:06:23.500 through a partnership where the federal government provides the funding
00:06:27.000 and the Florida Division of Emergency Management oversees its build-out and its everyday management.
00:06:34.800 Additional holding units will be added through next month, according to this joint agreement.
00:06:40.400 The facility is projected to cost about $450 million a year,
00:06:45.180 which will come from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA,
00:06:50.200 specifically their shelter and services program that was used to house asylum seekers during the Biden administration.
00:06:58.460 The facility will reportedly hold migrants arrested in Florida
00:07:02.160 and migrants transferred by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers,
00:07:08.200 known as ICE, from other parts of the country.
00:07:10.760 The president plans to join the head of the Department of Homeland Security,
00:07:14.940 Kristi Noem, as well as Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida for the opening tomorrow.
00:07:21.900 President Trump is also threatened to cut New York City's funding if the voters elect a lunatic as mayor.
00:07:29.520 In the wake of communist and Islamic radical New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdami's Democratic primary win,
00:07:39.740 speculation has abounded regarding what could become the nation's most populous city
00:07:45.200 if a full-on socialist wins the general election.
00:07:49.900 President Trump has certainly not shied away from his own criticism of Mamdami.
00:07:54.700 This weekend, he issued a clear warning to the Big Apple should its voters choose to elect a radical candidate
00:08:00.980 to replace the current Democrat mayor, Eric Adams.
00:08:04.980 The president said, and I quote, he's a communist.
00:08:08.360 I think it's very bad for New York.
00:08:10.460 I don't know what he's going to get in, but he's a communist and he's a pure communist.
00:08:15.580 But let me say this, if he does get in, I'm going to be president.
00:08:19.240 He's going to have to do the right thing or he won't be getting any money.
00:08:22.660 He's got to do the right thing.
00:08:24.480 It's not really clear what the president meant by that,
00:08:26.940 but we did see where the Democrat candidate, Mr. Mamdami,
00:08:34.260 specifically said that white taxpayers should pay more than everyone else.
00:08:39.600 That's, by the way, highly unconstitutional and quite illegal.
00:08:44.160 Trump once said he never believed the country would elect a socialist.
00:08:48.620 It's shocking that I would have assumed that,
00:08:51.960 but I used to say we will never have a socialist's country.
00:08:54.820 No, perhaps not, but we will have a communist because he, Mamdami, is a communist
00:09:00.840 and it's likely that he will be mayor.
00:09:03.340 So I was very surprised when I said I never heard of him.
00:09:06.340 I don't know who he is.
00:09:07.560 He's a radical left lunatic.
00:09:10.120 That's who he is.
00:09:11.640 You know, honestly, the Mamdami phenomena is based on younger voters,
00:09:17.300 many of whom don't really even know what the candidate stands for.
00:09:21.000 Very much like Barack Obama promising hope and change.
00:09:26.020 And in a weird way, kind of like Donald Trump running as an outsider
00:09:29.600 against an entrenched, broken system,
00:09:32.880 Mamdami is poised to be the front runner in the current race for mayor.
00:09:37.940 And he could very well have a split opposition.
00:09:41.720 At this juncture, I do not see the Republican candidate,
00:09:45.060 Curtis Sliwa, the current incumbent mayor, Eric Adams,
00:09:50.420 who's now running as an independent,
00:09:52.840 and quite possibly former governor Andrew Cuomo,
00:09:56.660 who also filed as independent, dropping out of the race.
00:10:00.440 This three-way split could clear the way for the election of a radical leftist mayor
00:10:07.180 who has openly said that he wants to defund the police
00:10:11.120 and release everyone in Rikers Island
00:10:14.100 because he says that violence is a construct, whatever that means.
00:10:21.500 I find it extraordinarily dangerous.
00:10:25.220 And probably the biggest win yet for the Trump administration,
00:10:28.620 the Supreme Court ruled last Friday
00:10:31.180 that the use of nationwide injunctions is no longer permissible.
00:10:36.020 In other words, having a local district judge
00:10:39.800 issue this sweeping order that affects the entire country
00:10:43.640 is unconstitutional.
00:10:46.520 In a widely anticipated decision
00:10:48.460 stemming from President Trump's executive order
00:10:50.740 seeking to end birthright citizenship,
00:10:54.000 the high court finally said that universal orders
00:10:57.420 likely exceed the equitable authority
00:10:59.980 that Congress has granted to the federal courts.
00:11:02.920 Shockingly, Justice Amy Comey Barrett
00:11:06.780 authored the majority opinion for the 6-3 court decision
00:11:10.760 with the liberal justices in dissent.
00:11:14.380 The court granted the Trump administration's request
00:11:17.200 to narrow the reach of the injunctions
00:11:19.540 blocking the president's executive order
00:11:21.840 while proceeding to move forward
00:11:23.700 only to the extent that the injunctions are broader than necessary
00:11:27.240 to provide complete belief.
00:11:29.520 We have seen this again and again.
00:11:32.420 Local district court judges
00:11:34.200 ruling that the president
00:11:35.280 doesn't have the authority
00:11:36.840 to deport dangerous criminal illegals.
00:11:41.180 We saw another district court
00:11:43.500 arguing that the president
00:11:45.420 does not have the authority
00:11:47.240 to negotiate
00:11:48.360 tariff deals
00:11:51.040 with other countries.
00:11:52.860 This is nothing less than judicial tyranny.
00:11:55.880 It is nothing less than leftist groups
00:11:58.960 who bring these lawsuits
00:12:00.140 forum shopping to find a friendly
00:12:03.040 left-wing partisan judge
00:12:05.480 and trying to block the mandate
00:12:08.000 of the American people
00:12:09.120 in the last presidential election.
00:12:11.680 This is perhaps the biggest win
00:12:14.120 for Donald Trump
00:12:15.260 and it clears the way
00:12:17.920 for him to implement
00:12:20.360 the America First agenda.
00:12:22.680 Interesting to see the Supreme Court
00:12:25.620 and the way it came down.
00:12:27.440 The left is going crazy
00:12:29.460 because this really was
00:12:30.880 their last stand.
00:12:32.960 At a White House press conference
00:12:34.120 President Trump praised this
00:12:35.980 as a monumental victory
00:12:37.500 for the Constitution
00:12:38.420 separation of powers
00:12:40.220 and yes
00:12:41.100 the rule of law.
00:12:42.900 The court's ruling came
00:12:44.080 in a trio of emergency appeals
00:12:46.400 by the Trump administration
00:12:47.960 arising out of the president's
00:12:49.340 executive orders
00:12:50.160 seeking to end
00:12:51.300 the 14th Amendment's
00:12:52.700 guarantee of birthright citizenship
00:12:54.840 which means that
00:12:55.820 everyone born in the United States
00:12:57.520 is a citizen
00:12:58.360 regardless of their parents'
00:13:00.700 immigration status.
00:13:02.340 We understand that
00:13:03.240 there were people
00:13:04.100 who came here
00:13:04.980 who were not U.S. citizens
00:13:06.400 who came to the United States
00:13:07.520 long enough to have a birth
00:13:10.500 so that that child
00:13:12.220 could become a U.S. citizen
00:13:13.700 and get all the benefits
00:13:15.520 there are four.
00:13:17.180 The Justice Department
00:13:17.960 has asked the Supreme Court
00:13:19.040 to narrow the scope
00:13:20.020 of these three separate injunctions
00:13:21.900 that block the implementation
00:13:23.320 of the president's policy
00:13:25.240 regarding legal challenges
00:13:28.900 brought by 22 states
00:13:30.340 immigrants' rights groups
00:13:31.860 and seven individuals.
00:13:34.020 This was a smashing victory
00:13:35.540 for the U.S. Constitution
00:13:36.780 and the rule of law.
00:13:38.640 I'm Roger Stone.
00:13:39.780 This is The Stone Zone.
00:13:41.820 Whatever you do
00:13:42.720 please don't touch that dial
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00:14:16.960 And we're back
00:14:17.900 in The Stone Zone.
00:14:19.260 Over the weekend
00:14:20.100 the Senate advanced
00:14:21.220 the budget reconciliation
00:14:22.500 legislation
00:14:23.560 over the Big Beautiful Bill
00:14:26.160 with Vice President J.D. Vance
00:14:28.800 coming in to break a tie
00:14:31.000 past 51-49.
00:14:33.720 The Big Beautiful Bill
00:14:34.960 is now one step closer
00:14:36.380 to funding ICE,
00:14:38.180 cutting taxes,
00:14:38.960 and advancing President Trump's agenda.
00:14:41.720 So I have pointed out
00:14:42.720 on this show
00:14:44.020 and in The Stone Zone repeatedly
00:14:45.560 that the tax cut alone
00:14:48.220 is the biggest single tax cut
00:14:50.600 in American history.
00:14:51.680 It was originally passed
00:14:52.720 during President Donald Trump's
00:14:54.320 first term,
00:14:55.080 but it has to be renewed
00:14:56.540 and to go into effect
00:14:57.900 in January.
00:14:58.780 Let's look at it
00:14:59.580 the other way around.
00:15:00.920 If this bill does not pass,
00:15:02.960 the American people
00:15:03.860 will have a 68% increase
00:15:07.020 in federal income tax rates.
00:15:09.640 And no,
00:15:10.300 the tax cuts are not
00:15:11.420 just for the rich.
00:15:13.180 You've been listening
00:15:13.760 to Bernie Sanders
00:15:14.580 if you believe that.
00:15:15.940 They're for all Americans.
00:15:17.380 If you look at it historically,
00:15:19.240 every time we have cut
00:15:20.840 federal income tax rates,
00:15:22.440 whether it was under Donald Trump,
00:15:24.120 whether it was under
00:15:24.960 Ronald Reagan,
00:15:25.880 or whether it was
00:15:26.740 under John F. Kennedy,
00:15:28.460 there's actually been
00:15:29.460 a surge in federal revenues.
00:15:31.620 So those liberals
00:15:33.260 like Robert Reich,
00:15:34.820 I went to high school
00:15:35.500 with that guy.
00:15:36.240 Remember him?
00:15:37.040 He was, I think,
00:15:38.080 the Secretary of Commerce
00:15:39.660 under Bill Clinton.
00:15:41.640 He insists that our deficits
00:15:43.200 are caused by tax cuts
00:15:45.580 on the American people.
00:15:46.800 No, deficits and inflation
00:15:48.960 are caused by too much spending.
00:15:52.340 Now, there is no question
00:15:53.620 that we do need to cut spending
00:15:55.780 in addition to the tax cuts
00:15:57.780 that are encumplenced
00:15:58.920 in the big, beautiful bill.
00:16:01.640 But at the same time,
00:16:03.580 we also do away
00:16:05.280 with the tax on tips,
00:16:06.940 the tax on Social Security,
00:16:08.640 and we include a tax credit
00:16:10.700 for those folks
00:16:12.400 who go out and buy a car
00:16:14.200 or a truck
00:16:14.960 that was made in America.
00:16:17.560 The big, beautiful bill
00:16:18.720 is not perfect.
00:16:19.840 Nobody says it is.
00:16:21.040 I particularly object
00:16:22.140 to the sections
00:16:23.360 regarding artificial intelligence
00:16:25.940 and restricting the states
00:16:27.660 from regulating it
00:16:28.960 for a 10-year period.
00:16:30.540 I've been a victim
00:16:31.280 of artificial intelligence.
00:16:32.800 You can see dozens of videos
00:16:34.900 online of me saying things
00:16:36.280 that, well,
00:16:36.900 I never actually said.
00:16:38.660 It's pretty scary
00:16:39.480 and it has to be regulated
00:16:41.340 in my opinion.
00:16:42.560 But it is crucial
00:16:43.820 that we pass
00:16:45.620 the big, beautiful bill.
00:16:47.340 Also included in there
00:16:48.600 is the funding
00:16:49.780 for what President Trump
00:16:51.460 calls the Golden Dome.
00:16:53.700 That is the strategic
00:16:55.480 defense initiative
00:16:56.460 that would protect America
00:16:57.720 from incoming ICBM missiles,
00:17:01.580 an absolute necessity.
00:17:03.520 You're listening
00:17:03.940 to The Stone Zone.
00:17:05.280 We'll be right back
00:17:06.060 with Kenny Cody.
00:17:07.060 He's the opinion editor
00:17:08.080 of Human Events,
00:17:09.220 also serves as chairman
00:17:10.880 of his local Republican Party
00:17:13.420 in Tennessee.
00:17:14.700 He's going to talk to us
00:17:15.820 about the Panikins
00:17:16.920 and how President Trump
00:17:19.280 has prosecuted
00:17:20.320 the war with Iran.
00:17:23.180 I think it has been brilliant
00:17:24.720 because it is not
00:17:26.100 about regime shame.
00:17:27.520 It is not about boots
00:17:28.820 on the ground.
00:17:29.620 It is not about endless war,
00:17:31.760 but it is about effectively
00:17:33.660 stopping the Iranians
00:17:35.380 from having a nuclear weapon
00:17:37.240 that they would share
00:17:38.520 with their proxies.
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00:17:46.640 The Stone Zone
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00:17:50.480 And we're back
00:17:53.800 in the Stone Zone.
00:17:55.420 I'm your genial host,
00:17:57.100 Roger Stone.
00:17:57.860 Joining me now
00:17:58.620 is Kenny Cody.
00:18:00.060 He's the opinion editor
00:18:01.100 for Human Events,
00:18:02.760 one of the most influential
00:18:04.900 conservative media outlets
00:18:07.240 in the country,
00:18:08.720 going all the way back
00:18:09.600 to the days
00:18:10.280 of Barry Goldwater.
00:18:11.800 And he also serves
00:18:13.400 as chairman
00:18:13.940 of the Cock County,
00:18:14.920 Tennessee Republican Party.
00:18:16.260 He's written
00:18:16.660 for various conservative outlets,
00:18:18.700 including
00:18:19.120 the Washington Examiner,
00:18:20.480 the Daily Wire,
00:18:21.440 Town Hall,
00:18:22.540 Newsweek,
00:18:23.100 and many others.
00:18:24.780 You've seen him
00:18:25.360 with Jack Posobiec.
00:18:26.660 You've seen him
00:18:27.120 with Matt Gaetz.
00:18:28.220 But today we have him
00:18:29.400 in the Stone Zone.
00:18:30.740 Kenny, welcome.
00:18:31.960 Hey, Mr. Stone.
00:18:32.620 How are you, brother?
00:18:33.380 It's great to be with you.
00:18:35.140 I'll tell you one thing
00:18:35.820 I find disconcerting.
00:18:37.260 I can understand debate
00:18:39.260 within the MAGA constituency,
00:18:42.320 which is, let's face it,
00:18:43.500 much larger
00:18:44.160 than the Republican Party,
00:18:45.160 prior to the president
00:18:46.400 making a very difficult decision.
00:18:48.600 But keeping his word
00:18:50.360 and deciding
00:18:51.200 to strike Iran
00:18:52.800 to stop them
00:18:53.580 from having
00:18:54.640 a nuclear bomb.
00:18:56.820 He said 15 times
00:18:58.760 during the campaign
00:19:00.140 that he would not allow
00:19:02.140 the Iranians
00:19:02.860 to develop
00:19:03.420 a nuclear weapon.
00:19:05.620 And Donald Trump
00:19:06.260 is a man
00:19:06.920 who says
00:19:07.840 what he means
00:19:08.480 and means
00:19:09.240 what he says.
00:19:10.280 There was a healthy debate
00:19:11.420 inside the MAGA community
00:19:13.280 because,
00:19:14.060 let's face it,
00:19:14.560 the president
00:19:15.020 ran as the
00:19:15.880 the peace candidate.
00:19:17.640 He ran as an opponent
00:19:20.080 to endless foreign war.
00:19:23.200 When he was in Riyadh recently,
00:19:25.400 he specifically denounced
00:19:27.080 a foreign policy
00:19:28.120 based on regime change,
00:19:30.480 which has clearly not worked.
00:19:32.640 But now,
00:19:33.700 in the wake of what I think
00:19:35.000 was the correct decision,
00:19:37.080 and by reading your latest piece
00:19:38.940 at Human Events,
00:19:39.600 you agree with me,
00:19:40.360 what I see is
00:19:41.900 infighting in the ranks.
00:19:43.500 You see
00:19:43.900 Mark Levin
00:19:45.440 attacking Steve Bannon.
00:19:47.280 You see
00:19:47.700 Laura Loomer
00:19:50.080 attacking
00:19:50.820 Tulsi Gabbard.
00:19:52.460 You see
00:19:52.940 Tucker Carlson
00:19:56.120 being attacked
00:19:57.080 all the way around.
00:19:58.400 I think this is
00:19:59.480 counterproductive now.
00:20:01.520 I think it is time
00:20:02.560 to rally around
00:20:03.980 the commander-in-chief
00:20:05.480 who I think
00:20:06.120 has made the right decision.
00:20:07.600 I support the president,
00:20:09.020 and I come from that
00:20:10.860 Ron Paul wing
00:20:13.500 of the Republican Party
00:20:14.560 that says
00:20:16.160 that I'm a non-interventionist.
00:20:19.660 I'm not a big fan
00:20:20.640 of the neocons,
00:20:21.580 certainly not a big fan
00:20:22.720 of the war in Iraq
00:20:24.260 or the war in Afghanistan.
00:20:25.960 Look,
00:20:26.200 I'm the guy
00:20:26.640 who wrote
00:20:27.060 The Bush Crime Family
00:20:28.340 as a book,
00:20:29.480 which you can still get online.
00:20:31.840 So,
00:20:32.280 how do you see this,
00:20:34.340 I don't want to call it
00:20:35.240 a fissure,
00:20:35.900 but this disagreement
00:20:36.880 in the family
00:20:37.940 that is MAGA?
00:20:39.580 Well,
00:20:40.120 I think there's
00:20:40.900 a big difference
00:20:41.560 between the debate
00:20:42.460 before the strikes
00:20:43.700 and afterwards.
00:20:45.740 Beforehand,
00:20:46.300 I understand the idea
00:20:47.600 that we didn't want
00:20:48.380 to have war with Iran,
00:20:49.540 we didn't want to
00:20:50.480 put troops on the ground,
00:20:52.400 boots on the ground
00:20:53.320 over in Iran,
00:20:54.240 have that regime change term
00:20:56.620 and have that regime change war
00:20:58.440 that so many neocons
00:20:59.900 and those who are part
00:21:01.860 of those war crime families
00:21:03.720 that we talk about
00:21:04.500 all the time.
00:21:05.140 But after the strikes,
00:21:06.660 I think it's pretty clear
00:21:07.660 to see we did our job.
00:21:09.600 We took out
00:21:10.120 the nuclear facilities.
00:21:11.300 We made those
00:21:12.400 certain strikes.
00:21:13.260 We brought peace
00:21:14.520 to the table.
00:21:15.120 We have a ceasefire
00:21:16.040 with Iran and Israel now.
00:21:17.760 And I think that we have
00:21:18.880 came to a point
00:21:19.580 where that was okay.
00:21:21.180 Now,
00:21:21.380 after the strikes,
00:21:22.320 you saw all those
00:21:23.220 conversations,
00:21:24.140 you know,
00:21:24.660 we should have done
00:21:25.440 the strikes.
00:21:26.020 We should have struck
00:21:26.680 it all.
00:21:27.120 And I think that's nonsense.
00:21:28.580 I enjoyed the debate
00:21:29.980 that we were kind of
00:21:30.620 talking about
00:21:31.200 before all that happened.
00:21:32.280 And I think that,
00:21:33.120 you know,
00:21:33.860 during Trump's first term,
00:21:35.440 he had people around him
00:21:36.860 that probably didn't want war.
00:21:38.660 You had people like
00:21:39.080 Rex Tillerson.
00:21:40.240 You had people
00:21:41.040 like John Bolton
00:21:42.300 that were in that
00:21:43.160 first Trump cabinet
00:21:44.140 that were going to
00:21:44.660 push for regime change.
00:21:45.840 They were going to
00:21:46.200 push for boots on the ground
00:21:47.280 in terms of foreign policy.
00:21:48.500 But now,
00:21:49.260 you have a
00:21:49.940 minds of level heads
00:21:52.180 that are currently
00:21:52.960 in the Trump administration
00:21:53.960 that are going to
00:21:54.960 make only the moves
00:21:56.340 that are going to bring
00:21:57.200 peace to the United States,
00:21:58.900 peace in the Middle East,
00:22:00.020 and broker deals
00:22:01.300 that are going to be fair
00:22:02.400 in terms of
00:22:02.980 American foreign policy.
00:22:04.200 And now I think
00:22:04.960 these conversations
00:22:05.700 are counterproductive.
00:22:07.000 I think before
00:22:07.880 big decisions like this,
00:22:09.580 before those are made,
00:22:11.520 those are when
00:22:12.500 those debates
00:22:13.040 and conversations
00:22:13.860 need to be had.
00:22:15.000 No war with Iran.
00:22:16.380 We need to come
00:22:17.020 to a peace agreement.
00:22:17.900 We need to broker peace.
00:22:19.200 All those things are good.
00:22:20.800 But after those things
00:22:22.360 have happened,
00:22:22.780 after the strikes,
00:22:23.440 and when it's clear
00:22:24.180 that we're not going to have
00:22:24.980 a regime change
00:22:25.860 to foreign policy,
00:22:27.140 what is the use
00:22:28.480 of now calling
00:22:29.260 these strikes a mistake,
00:22:30.380 these have obviously worked,
00:22:32.200 they're obviously successful,
00:22:33.520 and marketing is a quick
00:22:34.840 infighting and support
00:22:35.980 the president's move
00:22:36.740 because it has worked
00:22:37.860 and it's going to
00:22:38.600 eventually broker peace
00:22:39.860 if it hasn't already
00:22:41.060 between Iran and Israel.
00:22:42.540 I could not agree more.
00:22:44.440 I mean, look,
00:22:44.760 the president has been
00:22:45.620 very measured.
00:22:46.780 He did not take out
00:22:47.840 their oil refineries.
00:22:49.580 He did not take out
00:22:50.820 their capacity
00:22:51.500 to continue to sell fuel.
00:22:53.560 He did not hit
00:22:54.660 the Ayatollah with a drone,
00:22:57.280 which, based on the technology
00:22:58.700 he used in the takedown
00:22:59.840 of Soleimani,
00:23:00.620 I'm sure he could do
00:23:01.560 because he's a religious leader.
00:23:03.340 And it was interesting
00:23:04.540 that within hours
00:23:05.920 of the strike,
00:23:07.320 Secretary of State
00:23:08.220 Marco Rubio
00:23:09.120 and the president
00:23:09.980 were both calling
00:23:11.220 for the Iranians
00:23:12.240 to come back
00:23:12.760 to the peace table.
00:23:13.800 Donald Trump prefers
00:23:14.920 a negotiation over chaos.
00:23:17.160 He prefers commerce
00:23:19.200 over chaos.
00:23:20.600 And he proved it yet again.
00:23:22.480 So this limited operation,
00:23:25.480 which I agree with you,
00:23:26.320 was extraordinarily successful,
00:23:27.960 should be supported
00:23:29.140 by all Americans.
00:23:30.580 Now, Natasha Bertrand,
00:23:32.460 who is perhaps
00:23:33.220 the single most dishonest
00:23:34.940 quote-unquote reporter,
00:23:36.660 now with CNN,
00:23:38.540 someone who was being fed
00:23:40.260 constantly by the rogue CIA
00:23:42.440 operative and director
00:23:44.120 John Brennan,
00:23:45.480 a woman who got the cell phone
00:23:47.160 for special counsel
00:23:48.640 John Durham
00:23:49.760 and would badger him.
00:23:51.240 She's one of those
00:23:51.980 who pushed relentlessly
00:23:53.300 the Russian collusion hoax.
00:23:55.260 She's one of those
00:23:56.900 who said that
00:23:58.040 51 intelligence officers,
00:24:02.760 current and former,
00:24:03.980 said that Hunter Biden's laptop
00:24:05.860 was Russian information.
00:24:08.220 She's essentially
00:24:09.100 a congenital liar.
00:24:11.100 She's a Democrat operative.
00:24:13.060 She actually admitted to me
00:24:14.500 in an email
00:24:15.240 that Congressman Eric Swalwell
00:24:17.120 was in violation
00:24:18.340 of both the law
00:24:19.240 and the House rules,
00:24:20.800 sharing my classified testimony
00:24:22.580 with her,
00:24:23.620 trying to nitpick me about it.
00:24:25.680 She claims that CNN
00:24:28.160 has some source
00:24:29.960 that tells them
00:24:31.260 that the strikes
00:24:32.380 on the Iranian facilities
00:24:34.480 in three locations in Iran
00:24:36.860 were ineffective
00:24:38.240 and that we did not
00:24:39.540 take down their capacity
00:24:42.200 to build a nuclear weapon.
00:24:44.380 I think this is right.
00:24:45.960 I also think that whoever,
00:24:48.500 if they really have a source,
00:24:49.980 who knows if they really do?
00:24:51.100 Sometimes they just make
00:24:52.120 this stuff up.
00:24:52.960 But whoever is supplying
00:24:55.080 that information
00:24:55.920 from inside the government,
00:24:57.320 they're breaking the law.
00:24:58.660 They ought to be found
00:24:59.480 and they ought to be prosecuted.
00:25:01.140 What do you think?
00:25:01.980 Absolutely.
00:25:02.740 And this is the entire idea
00:25:04.660 of why the mainstream media
00:25:05.780 is dishonest.
00:25:06.820 And to be honest with you,
00:25:08.340 I have no idea
00:25:09.040 who would leak that information,
00:25:10.240 but if I had to make
00:25:10.960 an educated guess,
00:25:12.320 it's those that will
00:25:13.060 regime change wars.
00:25:14.660 They want us to do more bombing.
00:25:16.280 They want us to be more
00:25:17.900 efficient.
00:25:18.320 They want us to attack
00:25:19.100 those old refineries,
00:25:20.180 as you just mentioned,
00:25:21.320 and they won't further war,
00:25:22.920 whether that's to line
00:25:23.600 their own pockets
00:25:24.300 with the military-industrial complex,
00:25:26.120 whether that is to just so weak
00:25:28.300 as they're bloodthirsty
00:25:29.400 and want more war.
00:25:31.040 Because all neocons
00:25:32.320 are not done in Washington.
00:25:33.700 Now, I think Pete Hexstep
00:25:35.420 has done a great job
00:25:36.120 in the Department of Defense.
00:25:37.320 Marco Rubio has done
00:25:38.020 a great job
00:25:38.600 as Secretary of State
00:25:39.620 and every other position
00:25:40.780 that he's accumulated
00:25:41.460 while being in office.
00:25:42.420 But there are still
00:25:44.320 those agents
00:25:45.300 within the federal government
00:25:46.760 that want us
00:25:47.700 to push forward
00:25:48.480 as you change,
00:25:49.300 that want us
00:25:49.760 to be the world police,
00:25:51.340 that want,
00:25:51.920 they want to go
00:25:53.040 so much further
00:25:54.340 than those strikes
00:25:55.620 that we perform in Iran.
00:25:56.700 Now, I think those were,
00:25:57.880 like I said,
00:25:58.520 sufficient.
00:25:59.380 I think they were successful.
00:26:01.000 I think that that's going
00:26:01.920 to broker a peace deal
00:26:02.960 between Iran,
00:26:03.920 Israel,
00:26:04.460 and we'll see
00:26:05.100 what other countries
00:26:05.920 come to the table
00:26:06.680 during the Abraham Accords.
00:26:07.800 But there are those
00:26:09.880 in the federal government
00:26:10.880 that are trying
00:26:12.080 to dissuade the media
00:26:13.000 into calling these
00:26:13.860 non-significant strikes
00:26:15.040 that we need further action,
00:26:16.580 that we need boots
00:26:17.200 on the ground,
00:26:18.320 need to strike oil refineries,
00:26:19.780 need to go out
00:26:20.100 to the Supreme Leader.
00:26:20.980 All of those things
00:26:22.120 are still on the table
00:26:23.760 for those neocons
00:26:25.600 still in the Department
00:26:26.620 of Defense
00:26:27.080 and other sectors
00:26:28.840 of Washington.
00:26:30.260 But I think
00:26:31.240 that it is so clear
00:26:32.900 that the media
00:26:34.320 is still the earpiece
00:26:36.160 of those establishment
00:26:37.560 neocons.
00:26:38.480 They are looking
00:26:39.160 for any reason
00:26:40.140 to dissuade Trump
00:26:41.700 to seem like
00:26:43.040 his actions
00:26:44.040 and his decisions
00:26:44.820 are so non-effective
00:26:47.700 when it comes
00:26:48.800 to this foreign policy,
00:26:50.520 but it has worked.
00:26:51.360 And they can't stand that.
00:26:52.480 They cannot stand
00:26:53.520 that this one move
00:26:55.760 has basically disabled
00:26:58.080 all of Iranian
00:26:59.100 nuclear capabilities
00:26:59.900 at least for the next
00:27:00.840 few decades.
00:27:01.880 They can't stand it.
00:27:02.800 They wanted to use
00:27:03.840 this reason
00:27:04.680 to get into another war,
00:27:06.640 to make Trump
00:27:07.740 look weak.
00:27:08.740 If he doesn't go
00:27:09.920 and have further steps
00:27:11.500 that were going
00:27:11.920 to look weak,
00:27:12.660 they cannot stand
00:27:13.520 that this has been
00:27:14.100 successful.
00:27:14.800 They can't stand
00:27:15.480 that their pockets
00:27:16.160 are not going to be
00:27:16.620 filled with the blood
00:27:17.900 money from the military
00:27:18.840 industrial complex
00:27:19.940 and they're furious.
00:27:21.360 And that's why
00:27:21.660 they're using people
00:27:22.260 like Jennifer Griffin.
00:27:22.980 They're using people
00:27:23.560 that are mainstream
00:27:25.920 media earpieces
00:27:27.160 that are trying
00:27:28.360 to dissuade
00:27:29.060 the Trump agenda.
00:27:29.960 And the Trump agenda
00:27:30.560 is America first,
00:27:31.780 is the military
00:27:32.380 industrial complex last,
00:27:33.700 and it is piece
00:27:34.600 for a strip.
00:27:35.380 Yeah, Kenny,
00:27:36.120 look, I know
00:27:38.360 that I don't get
00:27:39.180 my news from CNN
00:27:40.280 for the same reason
00:27:41.220 I don't drink
00:27:41.940 out of the toilet.
00:27:43.640 And I saw speculation
00:27:44.940 that Mark Warner,
00:27:46.600 the millionaire
00:27:47.660 senator from Virginia
00:27:49.060 who bought himself
00:27:49.800 the governorship
00:27:50.440 and then a Senate seat
00:27:52.160 and who was
00:27:53.120 a constant leaker
00:27:54.060 during the Russian
00:27:54.880 collusion hoax
00:27:55.860 and who produced
00:27:57.340 a Senate Intelligence
00:27:58.820 Committee report
00:27:59.880 on Russian collusion.
00:28:01.800 There are 19 references
00:28:03.480 to me in that report.
00:28:04.680 Every one of them
00:28:05.280 is false.
00:28:06.200 It's a cotton-paste job.
00:28:08.400 Just because something
00:28:09.280 is reported
00:28:09.760 by the Huffington Post
00:28:10.880 doesn't make it true,
00:28:12.440 Senator.
00:28:13.320 This guy's been caught
00:28:14.560 leaking before,
00:28:16.580 caught red-handed.
00:28:18.220 My sources tell me
00:28:19.260 that this is where
00:28:20.680 this information came from.
00:28:22.580 But you're right.
00:28:24.040 The American people,
00:28:25.020 and they show it
00:28:26.160 in the ratings,
00:28:27.120 they're not believing CNN.
00:28:29.320 They're certainly not
00:28:30.340 believing MSNBC.
00:28:33.380 I mean,
00:28:33.760 yesterday I was
00:28:34.740 in a Barnes & Noble,
00:28:36.040 which, by the way,
00:28:36.480 they're opening
00:28:36.780 a bunch of new stores.
00:28:37.740 That's really good news.
00:28:38.980 Bookstores again.
00:28:40.220 And I saw the new book
00:28:42.020 by Rachel Maddow.
00:28:45.200 And it's about
00:28:46.500 America's headlong
00:28:49.820 movement towards fascism.
00:28:52.860 You have to stop for a minute
00:28:53.940 and say,
00:28:54.320 wait a minute.
00:28:55.600 The people who try
00:28:57.560 to keep candidates
00:28:58.380 off the ballot,
00:28:59.560 the people who try
00:29:00.580 to put their political
00:29:01.400 opponents in jail,
00:29:03.160 the people who try
00:29:04.260 to censor free speech,
00:29:06.620 the people who jail
00:29:08.220 American citizens
00:29:09.240 over their religious beliefs,
00:29:11.360 they are the fascists.
00:29:13.400 She is a fascist.
00:29:15.480 It's absolutely true.
00:29:16.660 It's right out of
00:29:17.180 Alinsky's rules.
00:29:18.580 Remember,
00:29:19.000 they always accuse us
00:29:20.540 of exactly what
00:29:22.020 they themselves are doing.
00:29:25.080 And as the great
00:29:25.700 Ronald Reagan said,
00:29:27.020 if fascism ever
00:29:28.060 comes to America,
00:29:29.020 it will come
00:29:30.200 in the guise
00:29:31.080 of liberalism.
00:29:32.340 Absolutely true.
00:29:33.660 Absolutely.
00:29:34.380 And, you know,
00:29:35.060 the fascists are the ones
00:29:36.120 that are trying
00:29:36.600 to silence the majority.
00:29:38.380 You know,
00:29:38.780 we use populism
00:29:40.540 and nationalism
00:29:41.240 to such a successful
00:29:42.420 extent that the left
00:29:43.300 can't stand it
00:29:44.140 because, you know,
00:29:45.160 they're always the party
00:29:46.240 of the working man.
00:29:47.380 They're always the party
00:29:48.200 of the voice
00:29:49.000 of the voiceless.
00:29:49.960 And now that MAGA
00:29:50.840 has taken control
00:29:51.740 of the Republican Party,
00:29:52.720 we are now in control
00:29:54.840 of looking
00:29:55.920 to the mainstream narrative,
00:29:57.500 looking to the
00:29:58.080 independent voices,
00:29:59.240 looking at those
00:30:00.340 who are sharing
00:30:01.460 the issues
00:30:02.180 that are most central
00:30:03.240 to them.
00:30:04.280 And MAGA is using
00:30:05.200 that to connect
00:30:06.020 with Generation Z.
00:30:07.240 We're using that
00:30:07.620 to connect with
00:30:08.040 independent voters,
00:30:09.340 union workers,
00:30:10.620 those who will never
00:30:11.500 vote Republican
00:30:12.020 in their lifetime
00:30:12.760 unless they were
00:30:13.600 actually spoken to
00:30:14.480 in the way
00:30:14.760 the Republican Party
00:30:15.360 currently does
00:30:15.960 because of MAGA.
00:30:17.100 And they can't
00:30:17.760 stand that,
00:30:18.680 Mr. Stone.
00:30:19.080 They cannot stand
00:30:20.960 the fact
00:30:21.480 that we are actually
00:30:23.300 getting through
00:30:23.760 to the people
00:30:24.200 because we were
00:30:24.760 always the party
00:30:25.620 of the country clubs,
00:30:27.180 the bankers,
00:30:28.340 Wall Street.
00:30:29.180 But now we're the party
00:30:30.060 of the working man.
00:30:31.000 And that's what
00:30:31.380 they're calling us fascists
00:30:32.500 because we're using
00:30:33.300 populism and nationalism
00:30:34.440 to our advantage
00:30:35.780 to get through
00:30:36.600 to the American people.
00:30:37.980 They're the ones
00:30:38.800 that are calling us fascists
00:30:39.900 when we're the ones
00:30:40.500 getting access
00:30:40.980 to free speech.
00:30:41.960 We're the ones
00:30:42.740 that are providing
00:30:43.620 alternative citizen-ran media
00:30:45.660 to the general public
00:30:47.100 instead of the mainstream
00:30:47.860 media narrative
00:30:48.500 that is controlled
00:30:49.300 by corporations,
00:30:50.840 by mainstream media,
00:30:51.900 and by those
00:30:52.960 deep state federal agents
00:30:54.400 that are trying
00:30:55.260 to use the mainstream media
00:30:56.680 as mouthpieces
00:30:58.040 for their agenda.
00:30:59.240 We are actually
00:30:59.940 talking to the
00:31:00.640 American people.
00:31:01.500 We're going out
00:31:01.980 to the streets
00:31:02.480 ensuring what kind
00:31:03.660 of issues
00:31:04.080 are the most central
00:31:05.200 to what they want
00:31:06.240 to see in political
00:31:07.040 activism,
00:31:07.900 and we're succeeding.
00:31:08.960 That's why we're
00:31:09.600 the fascists to them.
00:31:10.620 We're not using
00:31:11.040 government power
00:31:11.760 as they did against us.
00:31:13.040 We're trying to actually
00:31:14.360 involve the American voter
00:31:16.100 in foreign policy,
00:31:17.900 in domestic policy,
00:31:19.320 and in every single
00:31:20.020 policy that MAGA
00:31:20.960 stands for,
00:31:21.820 and they cannot stand
00:31:22.860 in that.
00:31:23.120 That's exactly
00:31:23.580 what they're calling
00:31:24.060 this fascist.
00:31:24.580 Yeah, I think it continues
00:31:26.400 to be a mistake
00:31:27.260 to view our American
00:31:28.640 politics now
00:31:29.500 in terms of Republicans
00:31:30.440 and Democrats.
00:31:31.120 That's really not
00:31:31.980 the divide in America.
00:31:33.620 It is really a divide
00:31:36.060 between the authoritarian
00:31:37.640 left and everybody else
00:31:40.480 with common sense.
00:31:41.460 President Trump forged
00:31:44.120 a new coalition,
00:31:46.380 a new governing coalition
00:31:47.480 that starts with Republicans
00:31:49.440 but adds independence
00:31:51.080 and disaffected common sense
00:31:54.200 Democrats like Robert F.
00:31:55.500 Kennedy Jr.,
00:31:56.700 formerly Tulsi Gabbard,
00:31:58.720 Governor Rob Blagojevich,
00:32:00.100 and others,
00:32:01.240 in this new working majority.
00:32:04.780 And then, of course,
00:32:05.920 he made extraordinary
00:32:07.000 inroads among Hispanic Americans,
00:32:08.860 among black Americans,
00:32:11.140 among younger Americans.
00:32:13.060 They see a new political dynamic
00:32:16.360 and it scares the daylights
00:32:18.580 out of them.
00:32:19.820 Thematically,
00:32:21.020 interestingly enough,
00:32:22.800 Zoran Mamdami
00:32:24.080 has tried to,
00:32:26.760 I think,
00:32:27.720 harness that same
00:32:29.060 outsider energy
00:32:30.560 while at the same time
00:32:32.580 masking the authoritarian
00:32:34.620 and very dangerous nature
00:32:36.860 of his actual plans
00:32:39.040 for the Big Apple.
00:32:40.740 If you're just tuning in, folks,
00:32:42.040 we're talking to
00:32:42.800 Kenny Cody.
00:32:44.020 He is the opinion editor
00:32:45.680 for Human Events
00:32:46.780 and we're breaking down
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00:32:58.400 of this new
00:32:59.880 Supreme Court ruling
00:33:01.020 that says that
00:33:02.020 lower court judges
00:33:03.260 can no longer issue
00:33:04.780 universal nationwide injunctions
00:33:06.680 to try to stop
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00:33:10.240 of the 2024 election.
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00:33:30.340 And we're back
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00:33:33.120 We're talking to Kenny Cody.
00:33:34.660 He's the opinion editor
00:33:35.660 at Human Events.
00:33:37.120 And we're talking about
00:33:38.260 the political news
00:33:39.620 of the day.
00:33:41.020 The big, beautiful bill
00:33:41.920 is getting closer
00:33:42.560 to passing Congress.
00:33:44.240 Kenny, I think this bill
00:33:45.580 is crucial.
00:33:46.420 No one said it's perfect,
00:33:47.700 but it's going to be improved
00:33:49.220 in conference.
00:33:51.060 The way this works,
00:33:51.860 it would have to pass
00:33:52.660 the Senate,
00:33:53.580 then go to a full vote
00:33:56.600 of the Senate,
00:33:57.560 then ultimately go to conference.
00:34:00.700 It gets smoothed out
00:34:02.080 in terms of the version
00:34:03.100 passed by the House.
00:34:04.040 And then it goes back
00:34:05.080 to the House
00:34:05.580 for repassage.
00:34:06.820 We would have
00:34:07.360 the biggest tax cut
00:34:08.660 in American history
00:34:09.820 re-upped for January.
00:34:11.860 I think there's things
00:34:12.920 in this bill I don't love,
00:34:14.040 but I'm hoping that
00:34:14.740 they will get eliminated
00:34:15.840 in the process.
00:34:17.020 But so far, so good.
00:34:18.680 What do you think?
00:34:19.500 Yeah, I mean,
00:34:19.940 I think it's central
00:34:20.820 to the America First agenda.
00:34:22.240 I mean, when we're talking
00:34:23.100 about extending
00:34:23.920 the biggest tax cuts
00:34:24.900 in American history,
00:34:25.660 we're talking about funding
00:34:26.680 for mass deportation.
00:34:28.080 We're talking about things
00:34:29.000 that are including that bill.
00:34:30.060 It's everything
00:34:30.340 that Trump ran on.
00:34:31.240 One of the main things
00:34:32.540 that he campaigned on
00:34:33.340 was that one big
00:34:34.400 beautiful bill statement.
00:34:35.580 He said,
00:34:35.980 we're not going to pass
00:34:36.760 all these individual bills
00:34:37.920 that are going to take
00:34:38.680 into the third
00:34:39.260 or fourth years
00:34:40.260 of my presidency
00:34:41.140 for us to implement
00:34:42.300 because it might get killed,
00:34:43.640 especially after the midterms.
00:34:44.900 So he wanted to get
00:34:45.500 all this done
00:34:46.020 within the first two years,
00:34:47.420 within really the first
00:34:48.120 few months of his presidency.
00:34:49.720 And like you said,
00:34:50.620 we're going to have to
00:34:50.980 cut some fat.
00:34:52.160 In this process,
00:34:53.300 going back and forth
00:34:54.000 from the Senate to the House,
00:34:54.920 you're going to hope
00:34:55.280 some things are kicked off.
00:34:56.360 But this isn't going to be
00:34:57.080 as good as you can get.
00:34:57.940 You know,
00:34:58.340 no piece of American
00:34:59.400 legislation with Congress
00:35:00.820 is ever going to be perfect.
00:35:02.440 But I think the state
00:35:03.080 accomplishes all
00:35:04.000 that we need to accomplish.
00:35:05.000 And when you put it on a scale,
00:35:06.300 it's going to be far more
00:35:07.200 positive for the American people
00:35:08.360 than it's going to be negative.
00:35:09.920 So I think it's a great bill.
00:35:11.420 I think it's as good
00:35:12.000 as we can get.
00:35:13.080 And I hope some things
00:35:13.740 are cut off
00:35:14.220 in between the transactions
00:35:15.360 from the Senate to the House.
00:35:16.460 I don't get too many guests
00:35:18.420 who are in Generation Z.
00:35:20.780 You've discussed
00:35:21.560 how Generation Z
00:35:22.640 wants to be able
00:35:23.300 to land a job
00:35:24.220 after they graduate college
00:35:25.540 or high school.
00:35:26.180 And the Republican Party
00:35:27.680 really needs to speak
00:35:28.740 to those concerns.
00:35:30.060 What measures do you think
00:35:31.400 would create greater opportunity
00:35:33.020 with these younger voters?
00:35:34.740 Well, I mean,
00:35:35.680 it's kind of like
00:35:36.340 what I was talking about
00:35:36.660 earlier, Mr. Stone.
00:35:37.560 It's just that usage
00:35:38.600 of populism.
00:35:39.540 I mean, I know you mentioned
00:35:40.880 at the end of last break
00:35:42.060 that Mamdani in New York
00:35:43.780 is much of a communist,
00:35:45.300 Marxist, radical Muslim
00:35:47.200 that he is.
00:35:48.240 He used populism
00:35:49.160 to his advantage.
00:35:50.160 And he used that,
00:35:51.180 the simple issues
00:35:52.160 such as reducing
00:35:53.420 India dishes
00:35:54.120 from $10 to $8.
00:35:55.000 and rent control,
00:35:57.240 you know,
00:35:57.400 making groceries cheaper
00:35:58.380 through communism,
00:35:59.340 but making groceries cheaper
00:36:00.540 and products cheaper
00:36:01.820 for the citizens
00:36:02.900 of New York.
00:36:03.880 You know,
00:36:04.120 these are things
00:36:04.760 that are at least
00:36:06.120 somewhat popular
00:36:06.940 with Generation Z
00:36:07.960 that are trying
00:36:08.540 to get jobs,
00:36:09.260 they're trying
00:36:09.580 to get an apartment,
00:36:10.340 trying to get a house,
00:36:11.200 trying to live
00:36:12.040 in a crowded city
00:36:13.160 that has high taxes
00:36:14.260 and high regulation.
00:36:15.940 And I think
00:36:17.080 that in that kind
00:36:18.100 of same way,
00:36:19.020 MAGA and the GOP
00:36:20.680 and the conservative movement
00:36:21.980 continue to utilize
00:36:23.640 populism.
00:36:24.700 Because as we talked
00:36:25.440 about,
00:36:25.560 I've talked about it
00:36:26.080 a lot before
00:36:26.980 in the last few years,
00:36:28.460 populism isn't an ideology,
00:36:29.900 it's a tool.
00:36:30.680 It's a way to try
00:36:32.020 to funnel ideas
00:36:33.300 to get through
00:36:34.760 to those voters
00:36:35.540 that would not
00:36:36.680 listen otherwise.
00:36:38.020 You know,
00:36:38.280 Generation Z,
00:36:39.440 independents,
00:36:40.540 working class voters
00:36:41.820 listen to populist standpoints
00:36:44.220 and at least communicate
00:36:45.560 with upper class
00:36:47.200 or high end politicians
00:36:48.480 through populist tropes.
00:36:50.420 and if you're able
00:36:51.160 to find out
00:36:51.840 what issues
00:36:52.580 are central
00:36:53.240 to Generation Z
00:36:54.500 such as getting jobs,
00:36:56.000 housing prices,
00:36:57.400 you know,
00:36:57.640 what job
00:36:58.440 are they going
00:36:58.780 to be able to get
00:36:59.420 after they graduate college
00:37:00.640 or after they go
00:37:01.500 to a trade school?
00:37:02.780 What jobs
00:37:03.600 are they going
00:37:04.020 to be able to get?
00:37:04.620 Are they going
00:37:04.880 to be able
00:37:05.080 to have a sustainable
00:37:05.760 future for their families
00:37:06.640 through American prosperity?
00:37:08.260 Those things
00:37:09.000 are what matter
00:37:09.540 to Generation Z.
00:37:10.460 Having a job,
00:37:11.500 having a family,
00:37:12.700 and trying to ensure
00:37:13.960 that that nuclear family
00:37:15.140 is sustained
00:37:16.620 through funds,
00:37:18.000 through income,
00:37:18.740 and through a good
00:37:20.200 living situation
00:37:21.120 through whatever region
00:37:22.100 they might live in
00:37:22.860 in the country.
00:37:23.760 So MAGA needs
00:37:24.940 to continue
00:37:25.280 to use populism
00:37:26.360 to get through
00:37:26.920 to Generation Z
00:37:27.760 in the same way
00:37:28.360 they've used it
00:37:29.040 to get through
00:37:29.700 to working class voters.
00:37:30.880 I think Vance,
00:37:31.580 Hawley, Trump,
00:37:32.400 and so many others
00:37:33.000 have done a very good job
00:37:34.080 in using those
00:37:35.020 populist mantras
00:37:35.720 to get into
00:37:36.080 the working class
00:37:36.820 and now we need
00:37:38.000 to use populism
00:37:38.940 to get through
00:37:39.600 to Generation Z.
00:37:40.600 All right,
00:37:41.000 I'm afraid we have
00:37:41.980 to leave it there.
00:37:43.100 I want to thank
00:37:43.820 our guest,
00:37:44.660 Kenny Cody,
00:37:45.380 who's the opinion
00:37:46.020 editor for Human Events.
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