The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 07-22-25

00:00:00.560 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:07.700 And this is Rita Cosby filling in for my buddy Roger Stone.

00:00:12.320 By the way, I think we have a little crazy train too,

00:00:15.540 because Ozzy Osbourne, the great Ozzy Osbourne, has passed away.

00:00:20.840 I had the honor of meeting Ozzy a couple of years ago.

00:00:25.240 There he is. I think this is crazy train.

00:00:28.180 I think we're going to get a little crazy.

00:00:30.780 Roger loves rock music. That's part of the reason I love Roger.

00:00:34.160 I think we're going to get a little crazy, but that's how it goes.

00:00:59.260 We'll be right back.

00:01:29.260 I'm going up the rails on a crazy train.

00:01:34.440 Of course, part of Black Sabbath and a huge solo career.

00:01:40.020 He just did a performance earlier this month.

00:01:43.500 The legendary Ozzy Osbourne.

00:01:46.540 Of course, reality star too.

00:01:48.320 So much else.

00:01:49.560 Sadly, had a lot of ailments, a lot of health problems, Parkinson's, everything else.

00:01:54.180 Passed away.

00:01:55.100 And we just got the word a few hours ago.

00:01:57.620 He will be deeply, deeply missed.

00:02:00.360 What a colorful guy.

00:02:01.480 What an interesting guy.

00:02:03.660 And obviously, our thoughts and prayers with his family.

00:02:06.360 I've met Sharon and the family.

00:02:08.580 So this is really a sad, sad day.

00:02:11.140 And sad day in the history of rock and roll too.

00:02:13.880 He will be deeply, deeply missed.

00:02:15.960 Well, today also, we're talking about, obviously, Ghislaine Maxwell, who is now going to be meeting with the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, Todd Blanche, President Trump's former attorney.

00:02:29.480 We saw him in a lot of those legal cases, all the lawfare against President Trump.

00:02:33.920 And also, in the middle of all this, one of the other big stories is Mahmoud Khalil.

00:02:40.420 He is the Columbia University activist.

00:02:44.420 This is the guy who is leading all of these different protests, especially the big one there, as we know, on Columbia University campus.

00:02:52.440 Remember, they were holed up for a long, long time there at the campus.

00:02:58.380 Remember, they had to bring the police in and to try to break it up.

00:03:01.960 That's not legal.

00:03:03.040 Also, making Jewish students feel uncomfortable on campus, which, boy, many of them did.

00:03:08.820 They felt so threatened.

00:03:10.340 That is not allowed.

00:03:12.340 That's not appropriate.

00:03:14.440 And yet, Mahmoud Khalil, remember, first he was arrested.

00:03:18.400 They said, listen, you have a green card, and you are staying in America at the pleasure of the United States.

00:03:24.520 And what you're espousing, essentially, is against American interests.

00:03:28.180 You're going up against one of America's greatest allies.

00:03:30.820 You are creating trouble on college campuses and elsewhere.

00:03:35.740 And he's an Algerian citizen with a green card.

00:03:39.600 As I mentioned, he was being held in a Louisiana jail for some time.

00:03:43.420 Then they were going through the case, and then a rogue judge said, nope, you've got to put him out while this case is being heard.

00:03:51.060 So that's the latest.

00:03:52.420 He walked out like a hero with his fans that are also anti-Israel.

00:03:58.400 And of all things, I can't believe this.

00:04:03.000 Mahmoud Khalil, today, he's out there on CNN.

00:04:06.180 He's out there on Capitol Hill meeting with different lawmakers.

00:04:10.280 And he couldn't wait to say it's time to put the heat on the Trump administration.

00:04:15.500 He's not saying he's grateful that he's out.

00:04:19.080 He's grateful to be in America.

00:04:21.100 I'd love to hear that.

00:04:22.840 I'd love to hear somebody like him say, America is the greatest country in the world, and we need to abide by their laws and respect America and not cause division and not create fear in the eyes of other students, Jewish or non-Jews.

00:04:39.040 I mean, this is crazy, but no, what does he do?

00:04:42.760 He goes on CNN to announce that he is suing the Trump administration for $20 million because he says they need to now feel the pressure.

00:04:55.200 Let me get this straight.

00:04:56.580 He's the guy who was with a group that was all holed up.

00:05:01.700 There are janitors who say that they were held hostage.

00:05:04.280 They caused a lot of damage to Hamilton Hall, caused a lot of fear and terror.

00:05:10.200 Other colleges across the country saw what was going on, and they felt emboldened.

00:05:15.180 And this guy's now suing the Trump administration.

00:05:19.260 That's called Cajones. 0.53

00:05:21.040 Here it is.

00:05:22.480 I know you filed, Mahmoud, a $20 million claim against the Trump administration,

00:05:28.000 alleging you were falsely imprisoned in dehumanizing conditions and maliciously prosecuted.

00:05:34.640 What are you hoping to achieve with this filing?

00:05:38.880 Simply, I'm hoping to achieve accountability because there should be accountability for such overreach.

00:05:46.100 The Trump administration should feel the heat of their actions, and they can't just simply kidnap people from the streets

00:05:56.060 and throw them in jails in Louisiana, 1,400 miles away.

00:06:02.860 It's simply accountability.

00:06:04.520 I'm not sure that this doesn't happen to others.

00:06:09.500 To set a precedent that there should be accountability, that this administration is not just immune to accountability.

00:06:20.780 First of all, they're not just kidnapping people off the streets.

00:06:23.720 The guy was sitting there with a megaphone, and the group was talking about river to the sea. 0.99

00:06:29.520 In other words, let's annihilate the Jewish population. 1.00

00:06:32.760 This was not somebody sitting out there singing, you know, I love America, I love the world, 0.99

00:06:41.180 and this guy is out there and has the audacity to right now go after the Trump administration.

00:06:46.960 They better not pay him a dime, and I'm sure the Trump administration will not do that.

00:06:52.920 Also, it sends such a dangerous message, and these rogue judges that are releasing people haphazardly saying,

00:06:59.640 oh, this is not fair, this is not appropriate.

00:07:03.060 Granted, he is, I guess, I would assume, not allowed to really travel, at least outside of the United States.

00:07:10.020 But I hope he loses his case, and I hope it sends a message.

00:07:13.840 But this is all this sort of death by, you know, lawfare.

00:07:18.700 The sense of let's slow down the process.

00:07:21.920 Because remember, the Trump administration, you know, arrested him,

00:07:25.760 said we're going to send a message to try to clamp down on all these other horrible hate-filled protests.

00:07:31.180 This is not First Amendment.

00:07:32.840 This is hate.

00:07:33.920 This is spreading fear.

00:07:36.040 But what it is doing is because they have to go back and forth on all the legislative stuff,

00:07:40.300 it's delaying the process, and that's the whole point of it.

00:07:43.820 Whether it succeeds or not at the end of the day, now they have delayed it by months, if not years,

00:07:49.600 and they just want to run out the clock.

00:07:51.560 Look, that's why all these rogue judges are still trying, despite the ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court,

00:07:57.460 a lot of them are still trying to do whatever they can to stop the Trump agenda,

00:08:01.720 so they could say, look, he didn't do this.

00:08:03.780 Look, a judge blocked this.

00:08:05.640 It's just to run out the clock.

00:08:08.820 And then here's, this is interesting, Mahmoud Khalil, again,

00:08:12.040 this is the organizer of the Columbia University protests.

00:08:16.060 He's on CNN today, again, like he's a hero or something.

00:08:20.880 And he would not condemn Hamas. 0.53

00:08:26.320 He would not condemn Hamas. 1.00

00:08:27.940 Hamas is a ruthless, disgusting terrorist group. 0.99

00:08:31.700 And to me, this is absolutely disgraceful. 0.99

00:08:35.840 Listen to what Mahmoud Khalil wouldn't say when he was talking to CNN today.

00:08:41.580 Just to be clear here, though, do you specifically condemn Hamas, a designated terrorist organization in the United States,

00:08:48.940 not just for their actions on October 7th?

00:08:51.700 I condemn the killing of all civilians, full stop.

00:08:57.220 But what I don't want to get into is, no, I am very clear with condemning all civilians. 1.00

00:09:05.160 I'm very straight in my position in that part.

00:09:11.080 But it's disingenuous to ask about condemning Hamas while Palestinians are the ones being starved now by Israel.

00:09:17.440 It's not condemning October 6th, where 260 Palestinians were killed by Israel before October 7th.

00:09:25.160 So I hate this selective outrage of condemnation, because this wouldn't lead to a constructive conversation.

00:09:37.160 And this is also like what we want to deal with is the root causes of why that happened.

00:09:43.440 And it's in no way anyone can justify the killing of civilians.

00:09:45.740 Just to be clear, just to be clear, Mahmoud, we did ask about, you know, we've talked at length about your views, of course, on the Palestinians.

00:09:52.200 But it is fair to ask you about whether you condemn Hamas, because the Trump administration has claimed that you are Hamas' sympathizer.

00:10:00.040 So it's very important to actually ask that question in this broad conversation.

00:10:05.160 Yeah, I simply asked and protested the war in Palestine.

00:10:12.340 He would not condemn Hamas. 0.98

00:10:15.740 At least I didn't hear it there.

00:10:17.900 I mean, if you listen to it, it's not a trick question.

00:10:20.960 Will you condemn a group that was responsible for raping and beheading people on October 7th?

00:10:28.300 Will you condemn a group that continues to want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth? 0.63

00:10:33.920 And he's making excuses.

00:10:36.700 I mean, this is an unbelievable moment.

00:10:39.320 And that's why somebody like him, I believe his activities are dangerous.

00:10:44.520 That's my opinion.

00:10:45.740 I think his activities are extraordinarily dangerous.

00:10:49.360 And you know who he reminds me of?

00:10:51.360 He reminds me of Zoran Mandami, who was running for mayor in New York City.

00:10:57.400 Because he just came out the other day and said he's not going to use the phrase global intifada anymore now.

00:11:05.020 Not because he necessarily thinks it's bad, but because some people told him it's bad.

00:11:10.300 So it doesn't really even sound like he's condemning it.

00:11:12.920 He's just suggesting people don't use it.

00:11:15.040 But he's also got the general election and he's running for mayor in an enormous Jewish population of New York City.

00:11:23.500 It's the biggest amount of Jews in the world outside of Israel.

00:11:27.520 So it's pretty obvious what he's doing.

00:11:30.420 He's trying to like dance and weave and bob.

00:11:32.520 But there's a new video out that also has him talking about Zionists left and right.

00:11:37.440 The Zionists, the this, the this, the this. 0.98

00:11:39.860 That is Zoran Mandami right now who's in Uganda.

00:11:45.040 And listen to him dodge and weave.

00:11:47.280 This to me is really disgraceful.

00:11:48.980 And it reminds me of what we just heard there from Mahmoud Khalil.

00:11:53.440 It's like these guys are two peas in a pod.

00:11:55.500 And I think they met.

00:11:56.280 I think they even hung out together.

00:11:58.240 If I remember, I heard recently, I think there's a picture of the two of them hanging out.

00:12:02.220 I thought I saw a report like that.

00:12:04.020 That wouldn't surprise me.

00:12:05.560 Maybe a Mahmoud will go on the campaign trail with Zoran Mandami. 0.96

00:12:10.800 Maybe he'll be his deputy mayor.

00:12:12.820 How's that?

00:12:14.060 What do you think of that, guys?

00:12:15.280 Wow.

00:12:16.040 1-800-848-9222.

00:12:19.040 1-800-848-9222.

00:12:22.080 And this is Rita Cosby in for Roger Stone.

00:12:25.340 And this is why it's so dangerous.

00:12:27.500 These people are dancing and weaving with the words.

00:12:31.080 You just heard Mahmoud Khalil dancing and weaving with the words.

00:12:35.580 Here is Zoran Mandami again, who is the leader in the race right now for New York City mayor.

00:12:43.540 And he is weaving, dodging, bobbing, twisting, turning on the words when he's asked about Globalize the Intifada.

00:12:52.100 At least one of those meetings, you said that you would discourage the use of the slogan, Globalize the Intifada.

00:12:57.900 And I know you've been asked about this a million times.

00:12:59.980 Let me just throw in my two cents.

00:13:01.540 I was actually in Israel for the first time during the second Intifada.

00:13:05.240 It was a traumatic, horrible, violent time.

00:13:07.660 You could see where storefronts had been blown out.

00:13:10.740 You had to open your bags everywhere.

00:13:13.140 There was a lot of tension.

00:13:14.140 The streets were deserted, streets that were normally lively.

00:13:16.440 We know, and it lasted for years, that thousands of people, both Palestinians and Israelis, died before they got some kind of a treaty to sort of dial back some of the violence.

00:13:26.820 It was just a horrible, horrible time.

00:13:28.800 And as you know, as you've heard, a lot of people are traumatized by that word.

00:13:33.520 It brings back a lot of really, really bad memories.

00:13:35.940 I was just a visitor, but there are people who have lived with much worse.

00:13:38.440 Obviously, as part of your job as mayor, you would need to sort of dial back the temperature, bring people together.

00:13:45.540 Where are we now in that conversation?

00:13:48.160 And what else might you want to say about that particular phrase?

00:13:52.420 You know, Errol, I've thought about this quite a lot.

00:13:55.640 And for some New Yorkers, this phrase is one that refers to civil disobedience and protests,

00:14:02.800 a call to end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

00:14:05.720 But I know that for many Jewish New Yorkers, it brings to mind images of the like that you are speaking of.

00:14:12.440 I was sitting with a rabbi not too long ago who told me how the same phrase is heard very differently by her.

00:14:18.480 And it's heard as a reference to bus bombings in Haifa, restaurant attacks in Jerusalem,

00:14:25.020 and engenders a fear in her and in others of the possibility of those very attacks coming home here in New York City.

00:14:32.140 And that distance between what some intend and what others hear is a bridge that is too far.

00:14:38.880 And it is why I have not used the phrase, and it is why I discourage its use.

00:14:43.840 And my focus is on building a movement for justice and equality.

00:14:47.860 And as it pertains to Israel and Palestine, I think often of the words of Noy Katzman,

00:14:54.220 who lost their brother in the horrific war crime of October 7th.

00:14:58.540 And Noy said, we must believe in all life, Israeli and Palestinian, Jewish and Arab,

00:15:07.720 that it is equally precious.

00:15:09.300 And that is the vision that I hope to fulfill.

00:15:11.100 That, to me, is a bunch of hogwash.

00:15:15.040 Did that make sense to anybody?

00:15:17.160 The answer is, it's inappropriate.

00:15:19.860 I never should have used it.

00:15:22.880 It's distasteful and it's disgusting. 0.96

00:15:25.500 And I obviously need a better education to appreciate the Jewish population. 0.95

00:15:31.120 And I'm embarrassed that I was out there saying it,

00:15:34.060 and I hope it wasn't provocative to people.

00:15:37.100 He didn't go there at all.

00:15:38.240 He just said, to some people it says this and others.

00:15:40.440 That, to me, is really scary.

00:15:43.300 And it's just like the defiance that we just heard from Mahmoud Khalil, 0.56

00:15:48.200 who refused to condemn Hamas.

00:15:52.200 It's two peas in a pod.

00:15:54.180 We're going to take your calls when we come back.

00:15:56.200 1-800-848-9222.

00:15:59.340 And this is Rita Cosby filling in for Roger Stone.

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00:16:36.200 The Stone Zone.

00:16:38.200 Entertaining and informative.

00:16:40.340 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:16:43.360 And this is Rita Cosby.

00:16:45.200 In for Roger Stone tonight,

00:16:47.700 we are talking about Mahmoud Khalil,

00:16:51.160 Zoran Mondami,

00:16:52.520 the defiance of these people,

00:16:55.200 and the word salad that they try to spew on the public.

00:16:58.780 One saying,

00:17:00.120 I'm not going to use the phrase globalize the intifada.

00:17:02.880 The other one saying,

00:17:04.140 you know what?

00:17:05.100 I won't condemn the phrase Hamas.

00:17:08.120 Are you kidding me?

00:17:09.220 It's not a trick question, guys.

00:17:11.500 1-800-848-9222.

00:17:15.520 Let's go to Joan in Long Island on line three.

00:17:18.620 Go ahead, Joan.

00:17:19.280 What do you think?

00:17:20.900 Hi, Rita.

00:17:21.480 How are you doing?

00:17:22.140 I've been nice.

00:17:22.780 Thank you for taking my call.

00:17:24.300 What I see is a lot of times our media,

00:17:27.000 our newspapers,

00:17:28.340 or any journalism area,

00:17:31.420 these people are getting the media.

00:17:33.480 If we turned our back on them

00:17:35.080 and didn't give them the attention,

00:17:37.000 they have no way to dispute their actual hate

00:17:40.200 out into the world.

00:17:41.600 And that's exactly what they're doing.

00:17:43.240 And we're allowing them to do the wordplay.

00:17:45.580 And then we actually elect these people

00:17:47.920 into our own government,

00:17:50.040 which makes me absolutely nauseous to no end

00:17:54.280 because they do not want freedom.

00:17:56.280 They're here to gut America from the inside out. 0.98

00:17:59.780 And I'm really saddened that a lot of Americans

00:18:02.460 can't see what they've been doing to us

00:18:05.760 for the last 20 and 30 years.

00:18:08.420 This is all building to destruction.

00:18:10.560 And they can't see it.

00:18:11.980 They can't feel it.

00:18:12.860 Your rights are being taken away

00:18:14.900 while they are getting more and more rights

00:18:17.720 and getting more and more seats

00:18:19.480 in our government and everywhere we look.

00:18:22.740 You know, Joan, I think you're bringing up

00:18:24.600 some great points because,

00:18:26.320 first off, I agree.

00:18:28.500 Unfortunately, a lot of them

00:18:30.480 are getting a lot of attention,

00:18:32.340 especially Mondami here in New York City.

00:18:36.220 And you're right.

00:18:36.740 It's part of a very big, troubling national trend.

00:18:39.540 There's also a guy running for mayor

00:18:41.220 in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.

00:18:43.980 And you're like, what?

00:18:45.100 I mean, he looks like Mondami Jr.

00:18:48.120 And you just hear the rhetoric from him.

00:18:50.560 And I said it sort of facetiously earlier,

00:18:54.500 but in many ways, it's kind of true.

00:18:57.040 I feel like he should be running for mayor of Gaza,

00:18:59.780 not mayor of the Big Apple.

00:19:02.280 I mean, with the kind of values that he's saying.

00:19:05.460 And, you know, Joan, it's shocking to me.

00:19:07.820 I'm a first-generation American.

00:19:09.040 I mean, my father was rescued by American troops

00:19:12.240 and he saw the greatest thing in the world

00:19:14.540 and it was an American flag.

00:19:16.480 And that's how he knew he was free.

00:19:19.320 And so I came from a home where, you know,

00:19:21.360 you could not thank this country enough

00:19:24.020 and appreciate this country enough.

00:19:26.040 And to see a lot of these people

00:19:28.520 and stirring up a lot of other people

00:19:32.160 to have the same values

00:19:34.160 and the fact that they won't condemn Hamas.

00:19:38.820 And even, you know, Zoran Mandani,

00:19:41.300 when he was asked, you just heard that interview

00:19:43.400 just a couple days ago,

00:19:44.980 said, I'm not going to use the phrase global intifada

00:19:47.820 because some people construe it.

00:19:50.360 Well, I don't think, you're not two years old.

00:19:53.740 You know what it means.

00:19:55.280 You know it's something horrible.

00:19:56.600 And he continues to spew it.

00:19:58.280 He gives the finger to Italians.

00:20:00.980 He goes after the Jewish people.

00:20:03.600 He's talked about defunding the police.

00:20:05.780 He's talked about getting rid of jails.

00:20:09.000 This is like mayhem.

00:20:11.000 Very dangerous.

00:20:12.480 You guys, I'll be back at 10 p.m.

00:20:14.840 Have a great night, everybody.

00:20:16.600 And I'll see you at 10 p.m.

00:20:17.760 on the Rita Cosby Show.

00:20:24.260 The Stone Zone.

00:20:26.220 Entertaining and informative.

00:20:28.000 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:20:31.280 And this is Rita Cosby filling in for my buddy Roger Stone.

00:20:35.960 By the way, I think we have a little crazy train, too,

00:20:39.160 because Ozzy Osbourne, the great Ozzy Osbourne,

00:20:43.400 has passed away.

00:20:44.460 I had the honor of meeting Ozzy a couple years ago.

00:20:49.140 There he is.

00:20:50.340 I think this is crazy train.

00:20:52.440 I think we're going to get a little crazy.

00:20:54.400 Roger loves rock music.

00:20:56.060 That's part of the reason I love Roger.

00:20:58.000 We'll do it again.

00:20:58.860 We'll see you next time.

00:21:00.800 See you next time. 0.56

00:21:17.080 Crazy

00:21:19.080 But that's how it goes

00:21:23.080 Millions of people

00:21:27.180 Living the soul

00:21:29.680 Maybe

00:21:33.000 It's not too late

00:21:36.960 Learn how to love

00:21:41.060 And forget how to play

00:21:43.660 Mental wounds

00:21:47.680 Not healing

00:21:49.760 Life's a big escape

00:21:51.840 I'm going up the rails

00:21:55.840 On a crazy train

00:21:57.760 Of course, part of

00:21:59.640 Black Sabbath and a huge

00:22:01.920 solo career

00:22:03.020 He just did a performance earlier

00:22:05.640 this month

00:22:06.680 The legendary Ozzy Osbourne

00:22:10.060 Of course, reality star too

00:22:11.800 So much else, sadly had a lot

00:22:13.840 Of ailments, a lot of health problems

00:22:15.420 Parkinson's, everything else

00:22:17.320 Passed away and we just got the word

00:22:19.980 A few hours ago

00:22:21.120 He will be deeply, deeply missed

00:22:23.900 What a colorful guy, what an interesting

00:22:25.940 Guy

00:22:26.540 And obviously our thoughts and prayers with his family

00:22:29.820 I've met Sharon and the family

00:22:31.660 So this is really a sad

00:22:33.980 Sad day and sad day

00:22:35.520 In the history of rock and roll too

00:22:37.440 He will be deeply, deeply missed

00:22:39.600 Well today also we're talking about

00:22:42.180 Obviously Ghislaine Maxwell 0.81

00:22:43.780 Who is now going to be meeting

00:22:45.780 With the Deputy Attorney General

00:22:48.840 Of the United States

00:22:49.880 Todd Blanche

00:22:50.720 President Trump's former attorney

00:22:52.980 We saw him in a lot of those legal cases

00:22:54.780 All the lawfare

00:22:55.740 Against President Trump

00:22:57.560 And also in the middle of all this

00:23:00.300 One of the other big stories

00:23:01.660 Is Mahmoud Khalil

00:23:03.620 He is the Columbia University activist

00:23:07.420 This is the guy who was leading

00:23:09.580 All of these different protests

00:23:11.460 Especially the big one there

00:23:13.020 As we know on Columbia University campus

00:23:15.860 Remember they were holed up

00:23:17.700 For a long, long time

00:23:20.180 There at the campus

00:23:21.900 Remember they had to bring the police in

00:23:23.840 And to try to break it up

00:23:25.300 That's not legal

00:23:26.740 Also making Jewish students 0.99

00:23:29.120 Feel uncomfortable on campus

00:23:30.800 Which boy, many of them did

00:23:32.380 They felt so threatened

00:23:33.460 That is not allowed

00:23:35.540 That's not appropriate

00:23:37.360 And yet Mahmoud Khalil

00:23:39.480 Remember first he was arrested

00:23:41.500 They said listen

00:23:42.520 You have a green card

00:23:43.540 And you are staying in America 0.99

00:23:45.160 At the pleasure of the United States

00:23:47.680 And what you're espousing

00:23:49.400 Essentially is against American interests

00:23:51.660 You're going up against

00:23:52.900 One of America's greatest allies

00:23:54.460 You are creating trouble

00:23:56.580 On college campuses and elsewhere

00:23:58.580 And he's an Algerian citizen

00:24:01.780 With a green card as I mentioned

00:24:03.920 He was being held in a Louisiana jail

00:24:06.200 For some time

00:24:07.040 Then they were going through the case

00:24:09.040 And then a rogue judge said

00:24:11.640 Nope, you've got to put him out

00:24:13.200 While this case is being heard

00:24:14.600 So that's the latest

00:24:15.680 He walked out like a hero

00:24:18.160 With his fans that are also anti-Israel

00:24:22.100 And of all things

00:24:24.020 I can't believe this

00:24:25.600 Mahmoud Khalil today

00:24:28.200 He's out there on CNN

00:24:29.540 He's out there on Capitol Hill

00:24:31.380 Meeting with different lawmakers

00:24:33.540 And he couldn't wait to say

00:24:35.700 It's time to put the heat

00:24:37.180 On the Trump administration

00:24:38.840 He's not saying he's grateful

00:24:40.680 That he's out

00:24:42.260 He's grateful to be in America

00:24:44.740 I'd love to hear that

00:24:46.080 I'd love to hear somebody like him say

00:24:48.320 America is the greatest country in the world

00:24:51.080 And we need to abide by their laws

00:24:53.720 And respect America

00:24:54.980 And not cause division

00:24:56.140 And not create fear

00:24:58.680 In the eyes of other students

00:25:01.200 Jewish or non-Jews

00:25:02.700 I mean, this is crazy

00:25:04.240 But no

00:25:04.960 What does he do?

00:25:06.400 He goes on CNN

00:25:07.560 To announce

00:25:08.620 That he is suing

00:25:10.740 The Trump administration

00:25:11.980 For $20 million

00:25:13.960 Because he says

00:25:15.940 They need to now feel the pressure

00:25:18.440 Let me get this straight

00:25:19.860 He's the guy

00:25:21.080 Who was with a group

00:25:22.640 That was all holed up

00:25:24.140 There are janitors

00:25:26.280 Who say that they were held hostage

00:25:27.920 They caused a lot of damage

00:25:29.920 To Hamilton Hall

00:25:31.300 Caused a lot of fear and terror

00:25:33.600 Other colleges across the country

00:25:35.600 Saw what was going on

00:25:36.720 And they felt emboldened

00:25:38.120 And this guy's now

00:25:40.320 Suing the Trump administration

00:25:42.720 That's called Cajones

00:25:43.940 Here it is

00:25:45.480 I know you filed

00:25:47.540 Mahmoud

00:25:48.120 A $20 million claim

00:25:50.200 Against the Trump administration

00:25:51.640 Alleging you were falsely imprisoned

00:25:53.820 In dehumanizing conditions

00:25:55.920 And maliciously prosecuted

00:25:57.960 What are you hoping to achieve

00:25:59.560 With this filing?

00:26:02.560 Simply

00:26:03.200 I'm hoping to achieve accountability

00:26:04.980 Because there should be accountability

00:26:07.240 For such

00:26:08.100 For such overreach

00:26:09.760 The Trump administration

00:26:11.440 Should feel the heat

00:26:12.560 Of their actions

00:26:14.920 And they can't just simply

00:26:17.640 Kidnap people from the streets

00:26:19.720 And throw them 0.95

00:26:20.420 In jails

00:26:22.120 In Louisiana

00:26:23.460 1,400 miles away

00:26:26.040 It's simply accountability

00:26:27.860 I'm sure that

00:26:30.600 This doesn't happen

00:26:32.420 To others

00:26:33.160 To set a precedent

00:26:34.160 That there should be accountability

00:26:37.040 That this administration

00:26:39.140 Is not just immune

00:26:40.580 To accountability

00:26:42.680 First of all

00:26:45.100 They're not just

00:26:45.600 Kidnapping people

00:26:46.480 Off the streets

00:26:47.260 The guy was sitting there

00:26:48.240 With a megaphone

00:26:49.400 And the group

00:26:50.360 Was talking about

00:26:51.660 River to the sea

00:26:53.060 In other words 0.74

00:26:53.660 Let's annihilate 1.00

00:26:54.700 The Jewish population 1.00

00:26:56.420 This was not

00:26:57.900 Somebody sitting out there

00:26:59.620 Singing

00:26:59.980 You know

00:27:00.520 I love America

00:27:02.680 I love the world

00:27:04.360 And this guy

00:27:05.400 Is out there

00:27:06.080 And has the audacity

00:27:07.400 To right now

00:27:08.520 Go after the Trump administration

00:27:10.260 They better not pay him

00:27:12.060 A dime

00:27:12.840 And I'm sure

00:27:13.560 The Trump administration

00:27:14.600 Will not do that

00:27:16.060 Also

00:27:16.960 It sends such a dangerous message

00:27:19.600 And these rogue judges

00:27:20.900 That are releasing people

00:27:22.240 Haphazardly saying

00:27:23.280 Oh this is not fair

00:27:24.620 This is not appropriate

00:27:26.200 Granted he is

00:27:27.360 I guess

00:27:28.140 I would assume

00:27:29.060 Not allowed to really travel

00:27:30.760 At least outside

00:27:31.800 Of the United States

00:27:33.020 But

00:27:33.960 I hope he loses his case

00:27:35.680 And I hope it sends a message

00:27:37.260 But this is all

00:27:38.280 This sort of death

00:27:39.140 By you know

00:27:41.080 Lawfare

00:27:41.840 The sense of

00:27:43.040 Let's slow down

00:27:44.340 The process

00:27:45.220 Because remember

00:27:46.380 The Trump administration

00:27:47.560 You know

00:27:48.280 Arrested him

00:27:49.400 Said we're going to send

00:27:50.340 A message

00:27:50.740 To try to clamp down

00:27:51.940 On all these other

00:27:52.760 Horrible

00:27:53.260 Hate filled protests

00:27:54.540 This is not

00:27:55.280 First amendment

00:27:55.980 This is hate

00:27:57.220 This is spreading fear

00:27:58.700 But what it is doing

00:28:00.860 Is because they have to

00:28:01.740 Go back and forth

00:28:02.560 On all the legislative stuff

00:28:03.860 It's delaying the process

00:28:05.240 And that's the whole point

00:28:06.320 Of it

00:28:06.660 Whether it succeeds

00:28:08.500 Are not at the end

00:28:09.360 Of the day

00:28:09.840 Now they have delayed it

00:28:11.200 By months

00:28:12.140 If not years

00:28:12.920 And they just want

00:28:14.140 To run out the clock

00:28:15.200 That's why all these

00:28:16.360 Rogue judges

00:28:17.000 Are still trying

00:28:17.860 Despite the ruling

00:28:18.820 From the U.S. Supreme Court

00:28:20.420 A lot of them

00:28:21.660 Are still trying

00:28:22.280 To do whatever they can

00:28:23.500 To stop the Trump agenda

00:28:25.360 So they could say

00:28:26.140 Look he didn't do this

00:28:27.320 Look a judge blocked this

00:28:28.920 It's just to run

00:28:30.240 Out the clock

00:28:31.580 And then

00:28:32.780 Here's this is interesting

00:28:34.060 Mahmoud Khalil

00:28:35.280 Again this is the organizer

00:28:36.740 Of the Columbia University

00:28:38.160 Protests

00:28:38.960 He's on CNN today

00:28:41.500 Again like

00:28:42.660 Like he's a hero

00:28:43.740 Or something

00:28:44.400 And he would not

00:28:47.320 Condemn Hamas 0.92

00:28:49.100 He would not

00:28:50.580 Condemn Hamas 0.92

00:28:51.420 Hamas is a ruthless 1.00

00:28:52.740 Disgusting terrorist group 1.00

00:28:54.600 And to me 1.00

00:28:55.860 This is absolutely

00:28:57.360 Disgraceful

00:28:58.780 Listen to what

00:29:00.540 Mahmoud Khalil

00:29:01.700 Wouldn't say

00:29:02.740 When he was talking

00:29:03.880 To CNN today

00:29:05.240 Just to be clear here

00:29:06.620 Do you specifically

00:29:07.840 Condemn Hamas 0.92

00:29:09.020 A designated

00:29:09.800 Terrorist organization

00:29:10.780 In the United States

00:29:12.260 Not just for their

00:29:13.760 Actions on October 7th

00:29:15.240 I condemn

00:29:16.080 The killing

00:29:16.620 Of all civilians

00:29:19.100 Full stop

00:29:19.820 But what I

00:29:21.860 Don't want to

00:29:22.980 Get into

00:29:23.540 Is 0.88

00:29:23.880 No I

00:29:25.640 I am very clear

00:29:27.400 With condemning

00:29:28.240 All civilians

00:29:28.820 I'm very

00:29:29.560 Straight in my position

00:29:31.460 In that

00:29:32.280 Part

00:29:33.240 Part

00:29:34.560 But it's

00:29:35.560 Disingenuous

00:29:36.240 To ask about

00:29:36.940 Condemning Hamas

00:29:37.860 While Palestinians 1.00

00:29:38.920 Are the ones

00:29:39.460 Being starved

00:29:40.100 Now by Israel 0.97

00:29:40.800 It's not

00:29:42.040 Condemning October 6th

00:29:43.260 Where 260 Palestinians 0.92

00:29:45.380 Were killed

00:29:45.940 By Israel

00:29:46.980 Before October 7th

00:29:48.840 So I hate

00:29:50.480 This selective

00:29:51.240 Outrage

00:29:52.800 Of condemnation

00:29:53.720 Because this is not

00:29:54.680 This wouldn't lead

00:29:56.060 Wouldn't lead

00:29:57.100 To

00:29:57.460 A constructive

00:29:59.140 Conversation

00:29:59.940 And this is

00:30:01.300 Also like

00:30:01.980 What we want

00:30:02.420 To deal with

00:30:02.820 Is the root

00:30:03.520 Causes

00:30:03.900 Of why

00:30:05.100 That happened

00:30:05.840 And

00:30:07.060 It's in no way

00:30:08.240 Anyone can

00:30:08.860 Just to be clear

00:30:09.840 Just to be clear

00:30:10.840 Mahmoud

00:30:11.520 We did ask

00:30:12.540 About

00:30:12.800 You know

00:30:13.280 We've talked

00:30:13.680 At length

00:30:14.020 About your

00:30:14.440 Views

00:30:14.880 Of course

00:30:15.220 On the

00:30:15.460 Palestinians

00:30:15.860 But it is

00:30:16.420 Fair to ask

00:30:16.960 You about

00:30:17.360 Whether you

00:30:18.200 Condem

00:30:18.460 Hamas 0.96

00:30:18.800 Because

00:30:19.100 The Trump

00:30:19.680 Administration

00:30:20.180 Has claimed

00:30:21.080 That you are

00:30:22.100 Hamas 0.96

00:30:22.600 Sympathizer

00:30:23.460 So it's

00:30:24.020 Very important

00:30:24.660 To actually

00:30:25.200 Ask that

00:30:25.660 Question

00:30:26.020 In this

00:30:26.360 Broad

00:30:26.620 Conversation

00:30:27.360 Yeah

00:30:29.040 I simply

00:30:30.060 I simply

00:30:30.980 Asked

00:30:31.840 And protested

00:30:32.960 The war

00:30:33.820 In

00:30:34.100 Palestine

00:30:35.000 He would

00:30:36.720 Not

00:30:37.120 Condemn

00:30:37.940 Hamas 0.96

00:30:38.780 At least

00:30:39.820 I didn't

00:30:40.180 Hear it

00:30:40.580 There

00:30:40.880 I mean

00:30:41.760 If you

00:30:42.040 Listen to

00:30:42.600 It

00:30:42.760 It's not

00:30:43.520 A trick

00:30:43.900 Question

00:30:44.360 Will you

00:30:44.980 Condemn

00:30:45.860 A group

00:30:46.520 That was

00:30:47.340 Responsible 0.67

00:30:48.120 For raping 1.00

00:30:49.120 And beheading 1.00

00:30:49.880 People 0.99

00:30:50.200 On October

00:30:50.920 7th

00:30:51.940 Will you

00:30:52.260 Condemn

00:30:52.660 A group

00:30:53.200 That continues

00:30:54.300 To want

00:30:54.780 To wipe 0.97

00:30:55.260 Israel

00:30:55.660 Off the 0.75

00:30:56.040 Face

00:30:56.400 Of the

00:30:56.840 Earth

00:30:57.140 And he's

00:30:58.280 Making

00:30:58.560 Excuses

00:30:59.560 I mean

00:31:00.580 This is

00:31:01.020 An

00:31:01.260 Unbelievable

00:31:02.020 Moment

00:31:02.960 And that's

00:31:03.820 Why

00:31:04.260 Somebody

00:31:04.960 Like him

00:31:05.660 I believe

00:31:06.300 His activities

00:31:06.980 Are dangerous

00:31:07.720 That's my

00:31:08.600 Opinion

00:31:09.140 I think

00:31:10.000 His activities

00:31:10.580 Are extraordinarily

00:31:11.620 Dangerous

00:31:12.560 And you know

00:31:13.360 Who he

00:31:13.780 Reminds me

00:31:14.480 Of

00:31:14.720 He reminds

00:31:15.740 Me of

00:31:16.280 Zoran

00:31:16.840 Mandami

00:31:17.520 Who was

00:31:18.280 Running

00:31:18.740 For mayor

00:31:19.880 In New

00:31:20.420 York City

00:31:21.040 Because

00:31:22.140 He just

00:31:22.940 Came out

00:31:23.300 The other

00:31:23.620 Day

00:31:23.820 And said

00:31:24.000 He's

00:31:24.160 Not

00:31:24.400 Going

00:31:24.540 To

00:31:24.660 Use

00:31:25.000 The phrase

00:31:25.520 Global

00:31:25.960 Intifada

00:31:26.840 Anymore

00:31:27.500 Now

00:31:27.980 Not

00:31:29.080 Because

00:31:29.420 He

00:31:29.640 Necessarily

00:31:30.380 Thinks

00:31:30.780 It's

00:31:30.980 Bad

00:31:31.320 But

00:31:31.500 Because

00:31:31.740 Some

00:31:31.940 People

00:31:32.180 Told

00:31:32.580 Him

00:31:32.760 It's

00:31:32.980 Bad

00:31:33.380 So

00:31:34.380 It doesn't

00:31:34.720 Really

00:31:34.900 Even

00:31:35.140 Sound like

00:31:35.520 He's

00:31:35.900 Condemning

00:31:36.440 It

00:31:36.560 He's

00:31:36.720 Just

00:31:36.880 Suggesting

00:31:37.560 People

00:31:37.820 Don't

00:31:38.160 Use

00:31:38.460 It

00:31:38.680 But

00:31:39.180 But

00:31:39.200 But

00:31:39.220 He's

00:31:39.400 Got

00:31:40.080 The

00:31:40.260 General

00:31:40.680 Election

00:31:41.240 And

00:31:41.580 He's

00:31:41.760 Running

00:31:42.040 For

00:31:42.300 Mayor

00:31:42.660 In

00:31:43.240 An

00:31:43.440 Enormous 0.98

00:31:44.540 Jewish

00:31:45.260 Population

00:31:46.040 Of

00:31:46.340 New

00:31:46.540 York

00:31:46.840 City

00:31:47.160 It's

00:31:47.460 The

00:31:47.620 Biggest

00:31:47.980 Amount

00:31:48.280 Of

00:31:48.480 Jews

00:31:49.080 In

00:31:49.260 The

00:31:49.380 World

00:31:49.620 Outside

00:31:50.020 Of

00:31:50.280 Israel

00:31:50.700 So

00:31:51.620 It's

00:31:52.300 Pretty

00:31:52.500 Obvious

00:31:52.940 What

00:31:53.180 He's

00:31:53.360 Doing

00:31:53.660 He's

00:31:54.300 Trying

00:31:54.540 To

00:31:54.700 Dance

00:31:55.220 And

00:31:55.460 Weave

00:31:55.740 And

00:31:55.880 Bob

00:31:56.160 But

00:31:56.300 There's

00:31:56.480 A new

00:31:56.700 Video

00:31:57.040 Out

00:31:57.440 That

00:31:57.820 Also

00:31:58.120 Has

00:31:58.380 Him

00:31:58.500 Talking

00:31:58.760 About

00:31:59.000 Zionist 1.00

00:31:59.660 Left

00:31:59.940 and

00:32:00.120 Right

00:32:00.440 The

00:32:01.220 Zionist 1.00

00:32:01.840 The

00:32:02.060 This

00:32:02.180 Zoran

00:32:04.920 Mandami

00:32:05.540 Right

00:32:06.320 Now

00:32:06.560 Who's

00:32:06.800 In

00:32:07.000 Uganda

00:32:07.800 And

00:32:08.900 Listen

00:32:09.300 To

00:32:09.520 Him

00:32:09.800 Dodge

00:32:10.320 And

00:32:10.520 Weave

00:32:10.840 This

00:32:11.100 To

00:32:11.280 Me

00:32:11.400 Is 0.88

00:32:11.600 Really

00:32:11.860 Disgraceful

00:32:12.540 And

00:32:12.660 It

00:32:12.780 Reminds

00:32:13.300 Me

00:32:13.540 Of

00:32:14.140 What

00:32:14.300 We

00:32:14.480 Just

00:32:14.780 Heard

00:32:15.000 There

00:32:15.200 From

00:32:15.440 Mahmood

00:32:15.980 Khalil

00:32:16.500 It's

00:32:17.340 Like

00:32:17.500 These

00:32:17.700 Guys

00:32:17.960 Are

00:32:18.120 Two

00:32:18.360 Peas

00:32:18.640 In

00:32:18.780 A

00:32:18.880 Pot

00:32:19.080 And

00:32:19.200 I

00:32:19.320 Think

00:32:19.480 They

00:32:19.660 Even

00:32:20.560 Hung 0.92

00:32:20.800 Out

00:32:21.020 Together

00:32:21.460 If

00:32:22.060 I

00:32:22.180 Remember

00:32:22.520 I

00:32:22.700 Heard

00:32:22.900 Recently

00:32:23.300 I

00:32:23.480 Think

00:32:23.620 There's

00:32:23.800 A

00:32:23.900 Picture

00:32:24.140 Of

00:32:24.300 The

00:32:24.400 Two

00:32:24.540 Of

00:32:24.640 Hanging

00:32:24.960 Out

00:32:25.300 I

00:32:26.160 Thought

00:32:26.380 I

00:32:26.540 Thought

00:32:29.300 I

00:32:29.720 Thought

00:32:30.200 I

00:32:30.840 Don't

00:32:31.800 I

00:32:32.500 Think

00:32:33.260 How's

00:32:36.740 That

00:32:37.080 What

00:32:37.860 Do

00:32:37.960 You

00:32:38.020 Think

00:32:38.200 Of

00:32:38.300 That

00:32:38.500 Guys

00:32:38.840 Wow

00:32:39.240 1-800-848-9222

00:32:42.500 1-800-848-9222

00:32:45.680 And

00:32:45.820 This

00:32:45.980 Is 0.88

00:32:46.120 Rita

00:32:46.360 Cosby

00:32:46.900 In

00:32:47.560 For

00:32:47.960 Roger

00:32:48.480 Stone

00:32:48.940 And

00:32:49.300 This

00:32:49.500 Is 0.88

00:32:49.640 Why

00:32:49.840 It's

00:32:50.060 So

00:32:50.240 Dangerous

00:32:50.820 These

00:32:51.340 People

00:32:51.660 Are

00:32:51.840 Dancing

00:32:52.380 And

00:32:52.920 Weaving

00:32:53.380 With

00:32:54.000 The

00:32:54.200 Words

00:32:54.600 You just heard Mahmoud Khalil dancing and weaving with the words.

00:32:59.380 Here is Zoran Mandami again, who is the leader in the race right now for New York City mayor.

00:33:07.000 And he is weaving, dodging, bobbing, twisting, turning on the words when he's asked about Globalize the Intifada.

00:33:16.040 At least one of those meetings, you said that you would discourage the use of the slogan Globalize the Intifada.

00:33:21.220 And I know you've been asked about this a million times.

00:33:23.320 Let me just throw in my two cents.

00:33:25.180 I was actually in Israel for the first time during the Second Intifada.

00:33:28.900 It was a traumatic, horrible, violent time.

00:33:31.300 You could see where storefronts had been blown out.

00:33:34.380 You had to open your bags everywhere.

00:33:36.800 There was a lot of tension.

00:33:37.800 The streets were deserted, streets that were normally lively.

00:33:40.600 We know, and it lasted for years, that thousands of people, both Palestinians and Israelis, died before they got some kind of a treaty to sort of dial back some of the violence.

00:33:50.460 It was just a horrible, horrible time.

00:33:52.220 And as you know, as you've heard, a lot of people are traumatized by that word.

00:33:57.160 It brings back a lot of really, really bad memories.

00:33:59.580 I was just a visitor, but there are people who have lived with much worse.

00:34:03.160 Obviously, as part of your job as mayor, you would need to sort of dial back the temperature, bring people together.

00:34:09.360 Where are we now in that conversation?

00:34:11.780 And what else might you want to say about that particular phrase?

00:34:15.300 You know, Errol, I've thought about this quite a lot.

00:34:19.340 And for some New Yorkers, this phrase is one that refers to civil disobedience and protests, a call to end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

00:34:29.360 But I know that for many Jewish New Yorkers, it brings to mind images of the like that you are speaking of.

00:34:36.240 I was sitting with a rabbi not too long ago who told me how the same phrase is heard very differently by her.

00:34:42.120 And it's heard as a reference to bus bombings in Haifa, restaurant attacks in Jerusalem,

00:34:48.160 and engenders a fear in her and in others of the possibility of those very attacks coming home here in New York City.

00:34:56.400 And that distance between what some intend and what others hear is a bridge that is too far.

00:35:02.420 And it is why I have not used the phrase, and it is why I discourage its use.

00:35:07.480 And my focus is on building a movement for justice and equality.

00:35:11.500 And as it pertains to Israel and Palestine, I think often of the words of Noy Katzman,

00:35:17.860 who lost their brother in the horrific war crime of October 7th.

00:35:22.180 And Noy said, we must believe in all life, Israeli and Palestinian, Jewish and Arab, that it is equally precious.

00:35:32.940 And that is the vision that I hope to fulfill.

00:35:36.260 That to me is a bunch of hogwash.

00:35:38.680 Did that make sense to anybody?

00:35:39.940 The answer is, it's inappropriate.

00:35:43.480 I never should have used it.

00:35:46.520 It's distasteful and it's disgusting. 0.96

00:35:49.100 And I obviously need a better education to appreciate the Jewish population. 0.84

00:35:54.740 And I'm embarrassed that I was out there saying it, and I hope it wasn't provocative to people.

00:36:00.740 He didn't go there at all.

00:36:01.880 He just said, to some people it says this and others.

00:36:04.320 That to me is really scary.

00:36:06.320 And it's just like the defiance that we just heard from Mahmoud Khalil, who refused to condemn Hamas.

00:36:15.680 It's two peas in a pod.

00:36:17.860 We're going to take your calls when we come back.

00:36:19.860 1-800-848-9222.

00:36:22.780 And this is Rita Cosby, filling in for Roger Stone.

00:36:29.320 The Stone Zone.

00:36:31.640 Entertaining and informative.

00:36:33.820 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:36:35.840 And this is Rita Cosby in for Roger Stone tonight.

00:36:41.300 We are talking about Mahmoud Khalil, Zoran Mondami, the defiance of these people, and the word salad that they try to spew on the public.

00:36:51.780 One saying, I'm not going to use the phrase, globalize the intifada.

00:36:56.340 The other one saying, you know what?

00:36:58.660 I won't condemn the phrase Hamas.

00:37:01.680 Are you kidding me?

00:37:02.680 It's not a trick question, guys.

00:37:04.960 1-800-848-9222.

00:37:09.080 Let's go to Joan in Long Island on line three.

00:37:12.080 Go ahead, Joan.

00:37:12.740 What do you think?

00:37:14.200 Hi, Rita.

00:37:14.940 How are you doing?

00:37:15.620 I'm doing nice.

00:37:16.220 Thank you for taking my call.

00:37:17.300 What I see is a lot of times our media, our newspapers, or any journalistic area, these people are getting the media.

00:37:26.720 If we turned our back on them and didn't give them the attention, they have no way to dispute their actual hate out into the world.

00:37:35.100 And that's exactly what they're doing.

00:37:36.840 And we're allowing them to do the wordplay.

00:37:39.040 And then we actually elect these people into our own government, which makes me absolutely nauseous to no end, because they do not want freedom.

00:37:49.740 They're here to gut America from the inside out. 0.98

00:37:53.240 And I'm really saddened that a lot of Americans can't see what they've been doing to us for the last 20 and 30 years.

00:38:01.760 This is all building to destruction.

00:38:04.260 And they can't see it.

00:38:05.460 They can't feel it.

00:38:06.580 Your rights are being taken away while they are getting more and more rights and getting more and more seats in our government and everywhere we look.

00:38:16.180 You know, Joan, Joan, I think you're bringing up some great points, because, first off, I agree.

00:38:21.980 Unfortunately, this, like a lot of them, are getting a lot of attention, especially Mondami here in New York City.

00:38:29.420 And you're right, it's part of a very big, troubling national trend.

00:38:33.120 There's also a guy running for mayor in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.

00:38:37.680 And you're like, what?

00:38:38.540 I mean, he looks like Mondami Jr.

00:38:41.560 And you just hear the rhetoric from him.

00:38:44.020 And I said it sort of facetiously earlier, but in many ways, it's kind of true.

00:38:50.500 I feel like he should be running for mayor of Gaza, not mayor of the Big Apple.

00:38:55.720 I mean, with the kind of values that he's saying.

00:38:58.680 And, you know, Joan, it's shocking to me.

00:39:01.440 I'm a first-generation American.

00:39:03.360 I mean, my father was rescued by American troops.

00:39:06.160 And he saw the greatest thing in the world.

00:39:08.160 And it was an American flag.

00:39:09.920 And that's how he knew he was free.

00:39:12.720 And so I came from a home where, you know, you could not thank this country enough and appreciate this country enough.

00:39:19.360 And to see a lot of these people and stirring up a lot of other people to have the same values.

00:39:27.620 And the fact that they won't condemn Hamas.

00:39:32.280 And even, you know, Zoran Mandani, when he was asked, you just heard that interview just a couple days ago, said, I'm not going to use the phrase global intifada because some people construe it.

00:39:43.700 Well, I don't think, you're not two years old.

00:39:47.200 You know what it means.

00:39:48.760 You know it's something horrible.

00:39:50.180 And he continues to spew it.

00:39:51.760 He gives the finger to Italians.

00:39:54.180 He goes after the Jewish people.

00:39:57.040 He's talked about defunding the police.

00:39:59.220 He's talked about getting rid of jails.

00:40:02.460 This is like mayhem.

00:40:04.440 Very dangerous.

00:40:05.940 You guys, I'll be back at 10 p.m.

00:40:08.200 Have a great night, everybody, and I'll see you at 10 p.m. on The Rita Cosby Show.

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