The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.400 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:07.600 Welcome to the Stone Zone.

00:00:10.280 Well, today we belatedly celebrate the birthday of J. William Middendorf.

00:00:16.520 Bill Middendorf was 101 years old yesterday.

00:00:21.100 He served as Secretary of the Navy, but more importantly to me,

00:00:25.320 he was the treasurer of Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign.

00:00:30.580 He served as the finance chairman of the Republican National Committee for Richard Dixon's 1968 presidential campaign.

00:00:39.620 He served his country as the ambassador to the Netherlands under President Richard Dixon.

00:00:46.400 Then he served as the ambassador to the Organization of American States,

00:00:51.200 later serving as ambassador to the European community under President Ronald Reagan.

00:00:57.480 Why do I raise this?

00:00:58.560 Well, first of all, he wrote a terrific book called The Glorious Defeat about how Barry Goldwater's campaign for president

00:01:05.740 laid the seeds for a conservative revival in this country, including the election of both Ronald Reagan and Donald J. Trump.

00:01:13.720 But when I was 16 years old at the Miami Beach Republican National Convention,

00:01:19.300 it was Bill Middendorf who got a gallery pass for this Nixon fanatic at 16 years old.

00:01:27.240 Bill Middendorf still going strong, celebrated as an excellent Secretary of the Navy.

00:01:34.580 I'm sorry that I missed his birthday yesterday, but made up for it today.

00:01:40.160 In the meantime, breaking news, the man who has now been convicted of trying to assassinate President Donald Trump

00:01:48.720 in West Palm Beach in the golf course, tried to stab himself in the neck with a pen immediately after the guilty verdict was read in court.

00:01:58.080 Now, most people don't realize this trial was even going on.

00:02:02.120 It's extraordinary how little media coverage this trial, which was taking place in Fort Pierce, Florida,

00:02:08.980 which is the judicial district in which West Palm Beach is located, was going on.

00:02:15.020 After a two-week trial, Florida jurors reached a verdict in the federal case against Ryan Ralph.

00:02:20.540 He was found guilty on all five federal charges, including attempting to assassinate a major presidential candidate.

00:02:28.500 They made that a federal crime in 1968 after Robert Kennedy Sr. was assassinated,

00:02:35.420 assaulting a federal officer and other gun charges.

00:02:38.740 It's still amazing to me that he is the only one charged in this crime.

00:02:42.660 They tell us that Ralph was indigent, that he was behind in both his alimony payments and his rental payments in his home in Hawaii,

00:02:53.380 yet he managed to somehow fly to North Carolina, drive from North Carolina to Florida.

00:03:00.100 And my question is an obvious one.

00:03:02.120 Where did he get the gun, particularly a gun where the serial numbers were filed off the barrel?

00:03:09.600 Pardon me if I think this is very much like the Kennedy assassination, where we haven't been told the whole truth.

00:03:17.820 It's obvious to me that Ralph, who is pictured in Ukraine, as well as being pictured in various European capitals,

00:03:25.800 who had set up a website to recruit militias, to recruit soldiers of fortune for the struggle in Ukraine,

00:03:36.820 appears to me to be some kind of intelligence asset.

00:03:40.420 But the government rushed this trial very quickly.

00:03:44.620 Most people don't even know that it happened.

00:03:46.780 I'm glad that he was convicted, but I still remain extraordinarily suspicious.

00:03:52.340 Just as I continue to be somewhat suspicious about the brutal political assassination of my good friend, Charlie Kirk,

00:04:00.760 I took this one personally because Charlie Kirk had reached out to me after I was targeted by the deep state,

00:04:09.320 after I was charged with lying to Congress about Russian collusion that never actually happened.

00:04:17.540 I think most people realized that I actually did nothing wrong.

00:04:20.780 I was charged in order to try to pressure me to submit false testimony against President Donald Trump.

00:04:27.980 In other words, Robert Mueller and his deep state thugs, empowered by the Obama cabal, as we now know,

00:04:36.420 ran through $30 million and with unlimited manpower, unlimited funding, and unlimited legal authority,

00:04:44.020 could find no evidence of Russian collusion with Donald Trump's 2016 campaign.

00:04:49.400 So they decided to invent it, to fabricate it, just like they fabricated the Steele dossier,

00:04:55.720 just like they fabricated the claim that the Democrat National Committee had been the target of a Russian intelligence hack,

00:05:03.460 both falsehoods, as we now know.

00:05:06.420 So it is not surprising to me that I didn't know Charlie Kirk

00:05:14.000 until he reached out to me after that stunning made-for-CNN arrest,

00:05:19.660 told me that he knew I was innocent, knew there was no Russian collusion.

00:05:23.860 He became both a public and a private advocate for the clemency that ultimately would spare me nine years in jail.

00:05:32.220 Kind of ironic that the head of counterintelligence for the FBI,

00:05:36.680 a guy named Charles McGonigal, ends up, according to an inspector general's report just days ago,

00:05:44.900 giving top military secrets to the Chinese,

00:05:48.800 should have been charged with both espionage and treason,

00:05:53.780 in the end only gets charged with taking bribes,

00:05:56.760 and gets ended up being sentenced to two years in jail,

00:06:00.400 when they tried to sentence me to nine years in jail

00:06:03.960 for allegedly lying about Russian collusion that never really happened.

00:06:09.320 Talk about a two-tiered justice system. 1.00

00:06:12.140 So I continue to have questions about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:06:18.740 Largely, this reminds me very much of the Kennedy assassination.

00:06:22.760 I have limited myself to talking to doctors who are experts in bullet wounds,

00:06:29.160 specifically, I've been talking to Dr. Paul Maurer,

00:06:33.480 who's actually been in the stone zone, will be back in the stone zone,

00:06:37.080 hopefully this week,

00:06:38.100 who tells us that a round of this size,

00:06:44.080 which we are told was a .30-06 bullet,

00:06:50.600 should have left a rather substantial exit wound and a blood splatter. 0.77

00:06:56.500 We saw no such thing.

00:06:58.660 Now, he does say that depositing kinetic energy

00:07:02.560 and making all of the classic large tissue stretch cavities,

00:07:06.940 there still should have been a large exit wound.

00:07:10.680 Others argue that it may have to do with the actual size of the bullet,

00:07:17.440 but this is something we'll be exploring more.

00:07:20.820 There are other theories, as I think most of you know,

00:07:23.120 others pointing out a trapdoor under where Charlie Kirk was speaking,

00:07:28.020 some arguing that perhaps the microphone that he was wearing was actually an explosive device,

00:07:35.000 not out of the question,

00:07:36.480 in that we saw beepers that were weaponized as exposing devices.

00:07:41.700 But I'm not prepared to jump to any conclusions other than to say

00:07:45.600 they told us that John F. Kennedy was shot three times from the back,

00:07:51.040 and we now know that that was a falsehood.

00:07:54.320 We know, according to the documentary up online by Paramount,

00:08:00.160 what the Parkland doctors saw,

00:08:02.240 that John F. Kennedy was shot from both the front and the back,

00:08:05.820 and that multiple doctors witnessed wounds in the late president,

00:08:10.580 consistent with his being shot from the front and the back.

00:08:13.800 We also know that Robert F. Kennedy,

00:08:17.280 they told us the assassin there was one Sirhan Sirhan,

00:08:20.960 a Palestinian radical,

00:08:22.760 when in fact Sirhan Sirhan was always in front of Senator Robert Kennedy,

00:08:27.160 yet Thomas Noguchi,

00:08:28.900 the world-famous pathologist who was the Los Angeles medical examiner,

00:08:33.680 says in his autopsy

00:08:34.920 that Robert Kennedy was shot from the rear

00:08:38.820 at point-blank range in the left rear of his skull.

00:08:43.800 That's with the gun barrel right up against his head.

00:08:47.540 Consequently, it's not possible for Sirhan Sirhan to be the murderer.

00:08:52.440 And then you take the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan,

00:08:57.240 John Hinckley Jr.,

00:08:58.920 always in front of Reagan,

00:09:00.900 crouching, shooting from an upward trajectory.

00:09:03.780 There is some discrepancy between how many bullets were fired.

00:09:07.840 Going to the federal documents that I got through a Freedom of Information Act request

00:09:12.820 was not at all illuminating.

00:09:15.040 Ninety percent of the information is redacted.

00:09:18.300 But reading various other books on the subject

00:09:21.260 and looking and doing research online,

00:09:23.880 some people say Hinckley got off six shots,

00:09:27.040 others say eight,

00:09:28.680 others, still others say four.

00:09:30.940 But here's what we do know.

00:09:32.400 Ronald Reagan was shot from above and behind

00:09:34.820 where Hinckley was in front of him and crouching.

00:09:37.920 Would have been shooting from an upward trajectory.

00:09:40.320 So pardon me if I don't want to rush to judgment

00:09:43.180 on the question of my good friend Charlie Kirk.

00:09:46.260 I don't think it is disrespectful to his memory

00:09:48.760 to ask these questions

00:09:50.460 until we ultimately, hopefully, learn the truth.

00:09:55.060 Meanwhile, I think this is fitting and appropriate.

00:09:58.400 President Donald Trump has signed an executive order

00:10:00.900 that officially designates Antifa

00:10:03.220 as a domestic terror organization,

00:10:06.020 correctly characterizing Antifa

00:10:08.180 as a militaristic, anarchistic enterprise

00:10:12.000 that is out to overthrow the U.S. government

00:10:15.060 through violent means.

00:10:16.620 It notes that Antifa members

00:10:18.060 have orchestrated campaigns of violence

00:10:20.340 and mayhem across America,

00:10:21.960 which includes riots,

00:10:23.880 attacks on law enforcement officers,

00:10:25.660 armed standoff and harassment of political figures.

00:10:29.760 They also recruit and radicalize young Americans 0.98

00:10:32.220 as they hide the source of their funding

00:10:34.740 and the identities of their members.

00:10:37.640 The president's new executive order

00:10:39.140 calls for federal departments and agencies

00:10:40.960 to investigate, disrupt and dismantle

00:10:43.620 any and all illegal operations

00:10:46.160 pertaining to Antifa.

00:10:48.480 This has been a long time coming.

00:10:50.400 I've been an advocate for it

00:10:51.700 and here in the Stone Zone for some time.

00:10:53.920 Antifa has always claimed

00:10:55.240 that they were a decentralized group

00:10:56.780 with no real leadership.

00:10:58.300 Even FBI Director Christopher Wray,

00:11:00.980 perhaps the worst FBI director in history,

00:11:03.780 repeated this propaganda

00:11:04.900 when he was questioned under oath by Congress

00:11:06.920 about the Bureau's lack of focus on Antifa.

00:11:11.160 That, of course, is completely absurd.

00:11:13.420 Antifa is a trained, tightly coordinated group

00:11:16.400 with money coming in from wealthy benefactors.

00:11:19.480 Perhaps it is the Soros Network

00:11:21.300 or perhaps it is some other wealthy radical leftists,

00:11:24.760 but the good news is we will soon find out

00:11:27.660 and they will be held accountable.

00:11:29.540 President Trump is not messing around

00:11:31.100 with this crackdown on Antifa.

00:11:33.980 This, rather than cancel culture

00:11:36.460 and the wholesale cancellation and censorship

00:11:39.860 of those who hold different political views

00:11:43.200 than Donald Trump,

00:11:44.320 is the correct response.

00:11:45.980 I know that some on the right

00:11:47.920 have favored doing to them

00:11:49.840 what they did to us

00:11:51.500 as someone who was himself censored

00:11:55.540 by X, then known as Twitter,

00:11:59.740 Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,

00:12:02.760 virtually canceled.

00:12:05.400 I obviously am tempted

00:12:08.320 to now want to treat those

00:12:10.160 who abused me the same way,

00:12:12.720 but Charlie Kirk himself put it best

00:12:15.540 when he said,

00:12:16.160 there is no such thing as hate speech.

00:12:19.500 That's why I find it kind of humorous

00:12:21.560 when Hakeem Jeffries

00:12:23.540 and Congressman Ted Lieu

00:12:26.060 and Chuck Schumer,

00:12:28.300 Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut,

00:12:30.240 Zoran Mamdani, Tom Hanks,

00:12:34.000 Meryl Streep, Robert De Niro,

00:12:36.640 Ben Affleck, Jamie Lee Curtis, Ben Stiller,

00:12:40.060 they all objected to Jimmy Kimmel being suspended,

00:12:43.860 saying it was outrageous.

00:12:44.860 I don't remember any of those people being upset

00:12:46.760 when I was censored.

00:12:49.460 So it is hypocrisy writ large,

00:12:52.800 but we're used to that on the American left.

00:12:56.020 It's interesting to me that now

00:12:57.540 with Disney reversing course

00:13:00.060 and saying that they will put Jimmy Kimmel

00:13:02.180 back on the air,

00:13:03.520 the Sinclair Group,

00:13:04.540 a media organization

00:13:05.440 which owns 38 ABC stations

00:13:08.140 in the United States,

00:13:09.040 has announced that they will be refusing

00:13:10.840 to air Jimmy Kimmel Live

00:13:12.460 after ABC announced

00:13:13.940 that they had lifted the suspension

00:13:15.260 after five days.

00:13:16.880 Sinclair said in an announcement

00:13:18.700 beginning Tuesday,

00:13:20.100 Sinclair will be preempting Jimmy Kimmel Live

00:13:22.260 across our ABC affiliate stations

00:13:24.580 and replacing it with news programming.

00:13:27.160 Discussions with ABC are ongoing

00:13:28.860 as to how we evaluate

00:13:31.000 the Stowe's potential return.

00:13:33.020 See, that's what I'm for,

00:13:34.540 freedom of choice.

00:13:36.080 I wasn't crazy about Jimmy Kimmel.

00:13:38.840 I thought that he was kind of a dirt bag.

00:13:41.860 I do think he crossed the line.

00:13:43.720 This is Roger Stone.

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00:14:12.140 Entertaining and informative

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00:14:16.360 And we're back in the zone.

00:14:19.360 President Donald Trump has offended

00:14:21.060 some who claim to be

00:14:22.440 the science community,

00:14:23.780 in other words,

00:14:24.680 medical professionals

00:14:25.820 who rely on Big Pharma

00:14:27.140 for their paychecks

00:14:28.120 by announcing that there are,

00:14:30.160 now based on a Harvard study

00:14:31.960 and other studies,

00:14:33.560 a very definite link

00:14:34.540 between Tylenol and vaccinations

00:14:36.480 to the development of autism.

00:14:39.100 The president held a press conference

00:14:40.260 where he urged pregnant women

00:14:41.980 not to take Tylenol

00:14:43.360 and to hold off on the vaccinations.

00:14:45.420 President Trump said,

00:14:46.940 I want to say it like it is,

00:14:48.100 don't take Tylenol,

00:14:49.020 don't take it.

00:14:49.600 He said,

00:14:49.880 other things that we recommend,

00:14:51.140 for example,

00:14:52.060 I do anyway,

00:14:53.000 is but don't let them

00:14:53.840 pump your baby up 0.54

00:14:54.740 with the largest pile of stuff

00:14:55.980 you've ever seen in your life.

00:14:58.060 I think what the president's

00:14:59.220 referring to now,

00:15:00.160 this was not true

00:15:00.880 when I was vaccinated,

00:15:02.060 but a newborn infant

00:15:03.760 can get as many as 28,

00:15:05.780 perhaps in some cases

00:15:06.720 as many as 32 vaccinations

00:15:08.360 at the same time.

00:15:10.160 I'm not convinced

00:15:11.060 all of these are necessary.

00:15:12.460 By the way,

00:15:13.040 I'm for health freedom,

00:15:14.940 health choice.

00:15:15.700 If you choose to take

00:15:16.880 any vaccination,

00:15:18.480 that's really up to you.

00:15:20.060 I personally don't think

00:15:21.580 that taking a vaccination

00:15:22.720 that has not been

00:15:24.040 through clinical trials

00:15:25.320 and where the manufacturer

00:15:27.640 of the vaccination

00:15:28.680 has no legal liability,

00:15:31.040 if you have an adverse reaction,

00:15:33.300 it's not a good idea.

00:15:34.760 But once again,

00:15:36.220 I think it's up to you.

00:15:37.420 You see, as a conservative,

00:15:40.600 as someone who believes

00:15:42.160 in health freedom,

00:15:43.240 it ought to be up to you.

00:15:44.020 What I really don't like

00:15:45.060 is when the government

00:15:46.280 mandates that something be done.

00:15:49.060 President Trump

00:15:49.760 has taken straight aim

00:15:51.100 at the vaccination regime

00:15:52.380 and Big Pharma's

00:15:53.540 not very happy as a result.

00:15:55.420 The link between Tylenol

00:15:56.800 and autism

00:15:57.420 is just the beginning

00:15:58.420 of the revelations

00:15:59.300 that are going to come out

00:16:00.200 during the Trump administration

00:16:01.660 with the extremely able

00:16:03.640 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

00:16:05.340 good friend of mine,

00:16:06.360 at the helm of HHS.

00:16:08.160 The medical establishment

00:16:09.080 is no longer being protected

00:16:10.540 by the federal government.

00:16:12.100 This is the first major step

00:16:13.620 towards America

00:16:14.460 becoming healthy again.

00:16:18.040 Meanwhile,

00:16:19.220 Secret Service agents

00:16:20.300 unfoiled a plot

00:16:21.420 to hack a New York

00:16:23.040 cell phone system.

00:16:24.840 This is really scary.

00:16:26.380 U.S. Secret Service agents

00:16:27.480 dismantled a network

00:16:28.960 of electronic devices

00:16:30.240 planted across New York City

00:16:32.080 that could have been used

00:16:33.040 to disable the entire

00:16:34.640 cell phone network

00:16:35.760 throughout the city.

00:16:36.760 The Secret Service

00:16:38.060 also claimed

00:16:39.720 this system was being used

00:16:40.940 to send assassination threats

00:16:42.500 against major U.S. officials

00:16:44.740 and other criminal activities.

00:16:47.380 The head of the Secret Service

00:16:48.520 New York field officer,

00:16:49.640 Matt McCool,

00:16:50.820 has that for a name,

00:16:52.100 those devices said,

00:16:53.360 those devices allow

00:16:54.220 anonymous encrypted communications

00:16:55.820 between potential threat actors

00:16:58.060 and criminal enterprises,

00:16:59.800 enabling criminal organizations

00:17:00.760 organizations to operate undetected.

00:17:04.380 Thank goodness

00:17:05.220 the Secret Service stepped in.

00:17:06.920 This is the newly reformed

00:17:08.700 Secret Service

00:17:09.280 under President Donald Trump.

00:17:11.760 Don't go away

00:17:12.840 because we're going to turn

00:17:14.020 our focus to the Garden State

00:17:15.780 of New Jersey,

00:17:16.720 which could be on the cusp

00:17:18.500 of electing the first

00:17:20.020 Republican governor

00:17:20.940 in decades.

00:17:22.360 Mike Crispy,

00:17:23.680 who is head of

00:17:24.880 the America First Republicans,

00:17:26.180 also a very popular

00:17:27.900 Rumble

00:17:28.760 and Real America's Voice

00:17:31.080 host,

00:17:31.840 talk show host,

00:17:32.580 is going to join us

00:17:33.260 to break down the situation

00:17:34.760 in the Garden State.

00:17:36.800 You're listening to

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00:17:49.820 Welcome back

00:17:50.600 to The Stone Zone.

00:17:51.820 Our focus now

00:17:52.640 is on the Garden State

00:17:53.800 of New Jersey.

00:17:54.600 New Jersey is a state

00:17:56.100 that I know quite a bit about.

00:17:58.080 That's because in 1978,

00:18:00.120 I first worked

00:18:01.620 on the campaign

00:18:02.320 of Jeffrey Bell.

00:18:04.000 He was a Reagan staff member,

00:18:06.960 actually an economic advisor,

00:18:08.640 who challenged incumbent

00:18:10.220 U.S. Senator Clifford Case,

00:18:12.440 perhaps the most liberal Republican

00:18:14.220 in the U.S. Senate,

00:18:15.620 for a renomination,

00:18:17.440 defeated Case in an upset

00:18:19.380 only to himself

00:18:21.100 be then defeated

00:18:21.900 by basketball star

00:18:23.780 Bill Bradley.

00:18:25.380 Then in 1980,

00:18:26.920 I was assigned

00:18:27.660 New Jersey

00:18:28.440 in the Republican contest

00:18:30.440 for president.

00:18:31.800 The Republican establishment,

00:18:33.600 headed by

00:18:34.500 Christy Todd Whitman's

00:18:36.760 father and mother,

00:18:38.420 were all lined up

00:18:39.460 for George H.W. Bush.

00:18:42.760 Unfortunately for them,

00:18:44.160 the Republican primary voters

00:18:45.540 of New Jersey

00:18:46.120 had a very different idea,

00:18:48.180 and Reagan skunked Bush 0.89

00:18:50.820 in the New Jersey primary,

00:18:52.640 taking every single delegate

00:18:55.140 in the New Jersey

00:18:56.320 Republican primary.

00:18:57.460 Then in 19,

00:18:58.620 well, it was during

00:18:59.240 the 1980 campaign

00:19:00.400 that I met a former

00:19:02.160 New Jersey Assembly speaker

00:19:03.740 named Tom Kane,

00:19:05.420 Thomas H. Kane Sr.

00:19:07.620 Tom Kane had been

00:19:09.400 Speaker of the Assembly,

00:19:10.600 had run for governor

00:19:12.260 in 1977,

00:19:13.260 but had run

00:19:14.800 as a moderate Republican.

00:19:17.220 Moderate Republicans

00:19:18.040 don't usually do

00:19:19.120 very well in primaries.

00:19:21.480 He was defeated

00:19:22.080 by State Senator

00:19:23.620 Ray Bateman,

00:19:24.960 who should have won

00:19:26.260 a slam-dunk victory

00:19:27.560 against unpopular

00:19:29.340 incumbent

00:19:29.920 Brimden Byrne,

00:19:31.240 but who ran

00:19:31.780 a horrific campaign,

00:19:33.480 only going on

00:19:34.320 to be defeated.

00:19:35.720 I met Tom Kane

00:19:36.840 during the Reagan campaign,

00:19:39.080 became quite impressed

00:19:40.060 with him.

00:19:40.980 Other advisors

00:19:42.060 told him

00:19:42.760 that he should

00:19:43.600 change his speaking style.

00:19:45.420 He had kind of a

00:19:46.440 waspy,

00:19:47.160 almost Massachusetts accent,

00:19:48.780 having been

00:19:50.000 in boarding schools

00:19:52.180 and had an

00:19:53.300 Ivy League education.

00:19:54.540 He was the son

00:19:55.840 of Robert W. Kane,

00:19:57.820 who was a congressman

00:19:58.840 from North Jersey.

00:20:00.340 A man, Richard Dixon,

00:20:01.720 once described to me

00:20:02.740 as tough as nails.

00:20:05.000 Robert W. Kane

00:20:05.920 had run for the Senate

00:20:06.760 himself in 1958

00:20:08.440 against Harrison Williams.

00:20:10.540 Democrat,

00:20:11.220 who, like many

00:20:12.100 New Jersey Democrats,

00:20:13.280 would later go to prison

00:20:14.480 for corruption.

00:20:16.400 It was in 1981

00:20:18.160 that Tom Kane

00:20:19.300 won a nine-way primary

00:20:21.260 for the Republican

00:20:22.320 nomination for governor,

00:20:23.820 but most people

00:20:24.620 shrugged their shoulders

00:20:25.460 and said it didn't matter.

00:20:26.960 He was going to lose

00:20:27.980 to Congressman Jim Florio.

00:20:30.160 Florio had challenged

00:20:31.340 Brendan Byrne

00:20:32.020 for renomination

00:20:32.860 in the previous

00:20:34.060 gubernatorial case,

00:20:35.140 and then Tom Kane

00:20:36.660 won that 1981 election

00:20:38.400 by 1,209 votes

00:20:41.280 out of more than

00:20:42.440 2.2 million cast.

00:20:45.140 I handled President

00:20:46.480 Reagan's re-election

00:20:47.640 of the campaign

00:20:48.300 in 1984.

00:20:50.300 So I know the turf

00:20:51.440 very well,

00:20:52.520 but the state

00:20:53.080 has changed demographically

00:20:54.880 quite a bit since then.

00:20:56.700 I now think it is

00:20:58.000 trending back our way.

00:20:59.620 The man who joins me now,

00:21:00.640 Mike Crispy,

00:21:01.920 who was a delegate

00:21:04.060 to the last

00:21:05.360 Republican National Convention,

00:21:06.900 was one of the lead-off

00:21:08.180 speakers at President Trump's

00:21:10.140 incredible, historic

00:21:12.780 Wildwood, New Jersey rally,

00:21:15.300 attended by over

00:21:16.160 100,000 people.

00:21:18.000 And Mike heads

00:21:18.920 the America First

00:21:19.760 Republicans of New Jersey,

00:21:21.140 a volunteer organization

00:21:22.940 that stepped into the void

00:21:24.920 when the Trump campaign

00:21:26.680 was not able to target

00:21:28.500 New Jersey,

00:21:29.340 given its political history.

00:21:31.420 I still support

00:21:32.300 that decision,

00:21:33.160 but it was Mike

00:21:34.200 and his compatriots

00:21:35.440 at the America First

00:21:36.940 Republicans of New Jersey

00:21:38.060 that organized

00:21:39.440 and raised the money

00:21:40.900 for an ad hoc campaign

00:21:42.700 which brought Republicans

00:21:45.580 light years ahead

00:21:47.340 where the president

00:21:47.980 had done four years earlier

00:21:49.720 with an extraordinarily

00:21:50.540 strong showing.

00:21:52.640 Mike Crispy is also

00:21:53.800 president of the

00:21:54.760 Italian-American

00:21:55.440 Civil Rights League,

00:21:56.820 one of the most notable

00:21:57.920 Italian-American non-profit

00:21:59.300 organizations in the country.

00:22:01.320 He ran for Congress

00:22:02.380 previously.

00:22:03.280 Many believe he will

00:22:04.080 run for Congress again.

00:22:06.180 He also has a great show

00:22:07.800 like Last Call

00:22:08.740 with Mike Crispy

00:22:09.520 on Real America's Voice

00:22:11.020 as well as his daily show

00:22:12.740 Mike Crispy Unafraid

00:22:14.260 which is a podcast

00:22:16.100 that you can see

00:22:17.100 with the Salem Podcast Network

00:22:18.580 and you can catch it

00:22:19.760 on Rumble.

00:22:20.600 Mike Crispy,

00:22:21.260 thanks for joining us here

00:22:22.500 in the Stone Zone.

00:22:24.560 Roger,

00:22:25.000 it's a great honor

00:22:25.900 to be back with you

00:22:26.680 as always, sir.

00:22:27.940 So, I saw this debate

00:22:30.160 the other night

00:22:31.100 and I thought

00:22:32.220 Jack Cittarelli

00:22:33.460 took Mickey Sherrill

00:22:34.520 to the cleaners.

00:22:35.860 I thought it was,

00:22:37.200 first of all,

00:22:37.660 because, you know,

00:22:38.580 we love pugilistic politics

00:22:40.740 in the sense that

00:22:41.780 we like a sharp campaign

00:22:44.160 and if you're a Republican

00:22:46.580 in New Jersey,

00:22:47.420 you've got to go on the attack

00:22:48.880 on the issues.

00:22:50.220 But Cittarelli

00:22:51.220 had this exchange

00:22:53.260 with Mickey Sherrill,

00:22:55.420 the Virginia-born

00:22:56.660 congresswoman

00:22:57.860 who somehow managed

00:22:59.480 to wrench

00:23:00.500 the Democratic nomination

00:23:01.840 away from the machine.

00:23:04.160 Let's listen to that.

00:23:05.640 It doesn't matter

00:23:06.300 because I'm going to make sure

00:23:07.560 that he doesn't get

00:23:09.920 to serve again

00:23:10.740 when I win for governor

00:23:12.040 in November

00:23:12.640 of this year.

00:23:16.440 There's another big difference

00:23:17.760 between her public service

00:23:19.000 and my public service.

00:23:20.140 It actually cost me money

00:23:21.400 the time I put in

00:23:22.300 and took away from my company.

00:23:23.740 In the seven years

00:23:24.480 that she's been in Congress,

00:23:25.820 she's tripled her net worth.

00:23:27.380 There's another big difference

00:23:28.400 between the two of us.

00:23:29.780 Okay?

00:23:30.280 She broke the law.

00:23:31.700 She had to pay fines

00:23:32.700 for violating federal law

00:23:34.160 on stock trades

00:23:35.120 and stock reporting

00:23:35.980 and the New York Times reports

00:23:37.600 that while you're sitting

00:23:38.820 on the House Armed Services Committee,

00:23:40.720 you were trading defense stocks.

00:23:42.880 Mike, that was incredible.

00:23:45.480 It was at that moment

00:23:46.520 that I realized

00:23:47.520 that Republicans

00:23:49.020 are on the move here

00:23:50.480 and this race

00:23:51.600 is looking more

00:23:52.400 and more winnable to me.

00:23:53.600 What do you think?

00:23:55.340 Well, I was there

00:23:56.340 at the debate, Roger,

00:23:57.580 and it was really unbelievable

00:23:59.460 how much Mikey Schell

00:24:00.860 resembles Kamala Harris.

00:24:02.900 I mean, not only do they

00:24:04.200 dress the same,

00:24:05.360 but they both kind of

00:24:06.260 talk the same.

00:24:07.520 Mikey Schell repeats

00:24:08.440 her talking points

00:24:09.440 from her television commercials,

00:24:11.380 and there's not much else.

00:24:12.980 I mean, when it comes to

00:24:13.880 running for the governor

00:24:14.820 of a state,

00:24:15.880 you really got to know

00:24:16.720 the state issues.

00:24:17.920 You know, Mikey Schell

00:24:18.700 has been in Congress

00:24:19.920 for two terms,

00:24:22.160 and prior to that,

00:24:23.240 she was in the state of Virginia,

00:24:24.720 born and raised,

00:24:25.940 and doesn't really understand

00:24:28.020 New Jersey issues.

00:24:29.220 So anytime there were

00:24:30.500 specific questions,

00:24:31.600 Mikey Schell would punt away,

00:24:33.420 talk about MAGA,

00:24:35.160 talk about Trump,

00:24:36.800 talk about Jack Cittarelli

00:24:38.100 doing whatever Trump wants,

00:24:39.980 and there was absolutely

00:24:41.140 no substance.

00:24:42.720 Jack Cittarelli,

00:24:43.380 on the other hand, Roger,

00:24:44.280 was extremely poignant

00:24:46.540 and particular

00:24:47.380 and specific

00:24:48.180 about things he would do,

00:24:50.340 solutions for the working class

00:24:52.020 folks in New Jersey.

00:24:53.320 Whenever somebody

00:24:54.120 asked him a question,

00:24:55.560 he had an answer

00:24:56.320 that was direct

00:24:57.420 and specific,

00:24:58.820 and Cheryl, 1.00

00:24:59.480 no matter how many chances

00:25:00.580 the moderators gave her

00:25:01.740 in the follow-ups,

00:25:02.860 she stuck to these platitudes

00:25:04.480 and these ad hominem attacks

00:25:06.560 on Cittarelli.

00:25:07.920 I think voters left that

00:25:09.240 debate saying,

00:25:10.800 one person knows about New Jersey

00:25:12.200 inside and out,

00:25:13.380 born and raised,

00:25:14.460 been there his whole life,

00:25:15.700 and the other one

00:25:16.400 is trying to use this perch

00:25:17.660 as a stepping stone,

00:25:19.440 maybe to run for president

00:25:20.540 one day,

00:25:21.180 Mikey Scherr,

00:25:22.240 it was a night and day

00:25:23.460 contrast, Roger.

00:25:24.780 You know,

00:25:25.260 maybe it's just because

00:25:26.240 I'm old,

00:25:26.940 but this reminded me

00:25:27.760 very much of the debate

00:25:28.820 between Congressman Jim Florio

00:25:31.080 and later Governor Tom Kane.

00:25:34.140 Kane had been in the

00:25:34.920 state assembly,

00:25:35.580 understood the state issue,

00:25:36.680 particularly the property tax issue,

00:25:38.080 whereas Florio was

00:25:40.700 a federal legislator.

00:25:42.040 He tried to coast

00:25:43.120 and run against Ronald Reagan.

00:25:45.180 Didn't work very well then.

00:25:46.840 Don't think it'll work

00:25:47.720 very well now.

00:25:49.260 I do think that Cittarelli

00:25:51.200 really hit on a completely

00:25:52.940 non-ideological issue.

00:25:55.320 It doesn't matter

00:25:55.740 whether you're a Republican

00:25:56.600 or a Democrat.

00:25:57.920 It doesn't matter

00:25:58.500 whether you're a liberal

00:25:59.260 or a conservative

00:26:00.160 or whether you're just

00:26:01.540 a non-political taxpayer.

00:26:04.020 I think voters are offended

00:26:05.980 by members of Congress

00:26:08.000 who serve on these

00:26:09.400 sensitive committees,

00:26:10.640 have access

00:26:11.560 to national security information,

00:26:14.260 and they go

00:26:15.240 and they work the stock market.

00:26:16.900 They do what is,

00:26:17.820 in essence,

00:26:18.640 insider trading.

00:26:19.560 In this case,

00:26:20.480 Mikey Sherrill

00:26:21.320 increased her net worth

00:26:23.180 by seven times

00:26:24.580 while sitting in the House.

00:26:26.240 I think voters

00:26:27.240 really find that

00:26:28.320 extraordinarily offensive.

00:26:31.660 100%.

00:26:32.140 I mean,

00:26:32.780 any time she was asked

00:26:34.000 about it,

00:26:34.580 she would pivot away from it

00:26:36.540 and could not have an answer.

00:26:37.760 Mikey Sherrill made,

00:26:38.960 I believe it was

00:26:39.760 $7 million

00:26:40.580 while trading defense stocks

00:26:43.420 while sitting on committees

00:26:44.640 in Congress

00:26:45.360 that had to do

00:26:46.620 with the defense.

00:26:47.560 So,

00:26:47.960 Mikey Sherrill

00:26:48.680 has enriched herself

00:26:49.900 and that any time

00:26:51.220 there were topics

00:26:52.120 about what she would do

00:26:53.640 specifically,

00:26:54.400 you can tell

00:26:55.040 that she wouldn't answer

00:26:56.500 any specific questions

00:26:57.660 because she doesn't want 0.99

00:26:58.900 to offend the people

00:26:59.680 who bankroll her campaign,

00:27:00.920 particularly in the topic

00:27:02.000 of schools.

00:27:02.540 Jack Cittarelli

00:27:03.760 had a big moment

00:27:04.520 that really got the crowd

00:27:05.800 going when he said

00:27:06.980 that Mikey Sherrill

00:27:07.640 was owned by the NJEA,

00:27:09.760 that's the New Jersey

00:27:10.680 Education Association,

00:27:12.600 which is a very powerful lobby

00:27:14.240 that owns the Democrat nominee

00:27:16.260 in modern-day New Jersey politics,

00:27:18.140 and that has a lot to do

00:27:19.720 with school choice,

00:27:20.920 and Mikey Sherrill

00:27:21.720 stands strongly against school choice.

00:27:23.660 She wants to continue

00:27:24.940 to fund a system

00:27:25.820 that's broken

00:27:26.420 beyond repair,

00:27:28.320 which is the number one

00:27:29.860 driving force

00:27:30.720 behind property taxes

00:27:32.420 being so astronomically

00:27:34.080 high in the state.

00:27:35.440 Property taxes

00:27:36.360 fund the schools.

00:27:37.840 The schools

00:27:38.520 get their funding quotas

00:27:40.660 from the NJEA,

00:27:42.500 and the NJEA

00:27:43.980 owns the Democrat candidate

00:27:45.740 to continue

00:27:46.560 this status quo.

00:27:48.860 So,

00:27:49.280 Jack Cittarelli

00:27:49.820 had a big moment there

00:27:50.880 where he called that out

00:27:51.980 and took Mikey Sherrill

00:27:53.400 to the mat,

00:27:54.240 not only on her corruption

00:27:55.540 when it comes to

00:27:56.460 how she was making

00:27:57.520 millions of dollars

00:27:58.360 in the stock market,

00:27:59.460 while Jack,

00:28:00.360 an independent business owner,

00:28:01.960 had lost money

00:28:03.000 every year

00:28:03.780 that he served

00:28:04.920 because he ran

00:28:05.580 his own businesses,

00:28:06.740 took steps away from that

00:28:08.420 to run for the assembly,

00:28:09.940 to run for council,

00:28:10.780 and stuff like that.

00:28:12.020 Sherrill made millions,

00:28:13.080 and now

00:28:13.640 she 100% shills 0.99

00:28:15.500 for the corrupt

00:28:16.580 NJEA lobby

00:28:17.920 that is the direct,

00:28:20.520 specific group

00:28:22.020 that is causing

00:28:23.020 our property taxes

00:28:24.020 and thus overall expenses

00:28:25.220 to be so high

00:28:26.420 in the state,

00:28:26.940 and have our education

00:28:28.760 in New Jersey

00:28:30.340 go from nationally

00:28:31.640 ranked 2

00:28:32.360 to nationally

00:28:33.380 ranked 12th.

00:28:34.720 That has been

00:28:35.280 over the last

00:28:35.900 eight years

00:28:36.540 under Democrat

00:28:37.740 rule in the state.

00:28:38.940 New Jersey

00:28:39.420 public schools

00:28:40.060 have gone from

00:28:40.540 2 to 12

00:28:41.180 and our property taxes

00:28:42.480 keep going up.

00:28:43.600 Roger,

00:28:44.000 it's not sustainable.

00:28:45.200 Sherrill had no answers.

00:28:46.680 Cittarelli was highly

00:28:47.340 specific on his solutions

00:28:48.600 to these problems.

00:28:50.140 Yeah,

00:28:50.600 I want to be very specific

00:28:51.640 here because I want

00:28:52.260 to be factual.

00:28:53.040 What Jack Cittarelli

00:28:54.120 said was actually accurate.

00:28:55.260 He said that in the seven years

00:28:57.300 that she's been in Congress

00:28:58.560 that Mikey Sherrill

00:29:01.380 tripled her net worth.

00:29:03.260 So while she was sitting

00:29:04.140 on the House Armed Services

00:29:05.420 Committee,

00:29:06.340 she was trading defense stocks.

00:29:08.080 That's a violation of the law.

00:29:09.920 She in fact had to pay fines

00:29:11.360 for violating federal law

00:29:12.900 on stock trading

00:29:14.000 and stock reporting.

00:29:15.700 She actually,

00:29:17.300 because of over 300 trades,

00:29:19.800 that resulted in a

00:29:21.000 $7 million profit.

00:29:22.620 So she tripled her net worth. 0.84

00:29:25.440 I was incorrect

00:29:25.960 when I said

00:29:26.500 she increased it sevenfold,

00:29:28.360 but she made 0.60

00:29:29.260 $7 million in profit.

00:29:31.620 Her net worth now stands

00:29:32.860 at an estimated $10 million.

00:29:34.780 She bought and sold shares

00:29:36.100 of several defense contractors

00:29:37.660 while sitting as a member

00:29:38.960 of the House Armed Services Committee.

00:29:40.920 She was fined

00:29:42.180 and had to disclose

00:29:44.820 up to $350,000

00:29:46.700 in stock trades

00:29:47.780 in violation of federal law.

00:29:49.840 People who want to check

00:29:50.680 these facts out for themselves

00:29:51.820 can go to

00:29:52.980 MikeyMadeMillions.com

00:29:55.280 Mikey, M-I-K-I-E

00:29:57.260 MikeyMadeMillions.com

00:29:59.220 It's all documented there.

00:30:01.280 I want to get that

00:30:01.840 precisely right

00:30:02.920 because if I don't,

00:30:03.840 you know,

00:30:04.340 some Democrat will complain

00:30:05.860 that we weren't

00:30:06.880 being factual here.

00:30:08.740 It's clear to me

00:30:10.300 that this race is in play.

00:30:12.820 I was very excited

00:30:13.760 when we had Cliff Maloney,

00:30:16.100 who was the architect

00:30:17.200 of Donald Trump's

00:30:18.260 come-from-behind victory

00:30:19.780 in Pennsylvania

00:30:20.600 in the last presidential campaign

00:30:22.080 and he announced

00:30:23.140 that he's teaming up

00:30:24.460 with you

00:30:25.420 and the good folks

00:30:27.400 at America First,

00:30:28.260 Republicans in New Jersey

00:30:29.420 to engage in the same kind

00:30:32.020 of door-to-door

00:30:33.380 shoe-leather campaigning

00:30:35.320 to identify

00:30:37.200 and turn out

00:30:38.700 Cittarelli voters

00:30:40.640 in the upcoming election.

00:30:41.740 This is very exciting.

00:30:43.500 Tell us what you have

00:30:44.520 planned here, Mike.

00:30:45.400 Well, Roger,

00:30:47.700 Cliff Maloney,

00:30:48.420 obviously,

00:30:49.120 has been just a really great

00:30:51.060 grassroots organizer

00:30:52.320 for many, many years,

00:30:53.680 a great friend,

00:30:55.500 and now he's, you know,

00:30:56.620 coming from Pennsylvania

00:30:57.620 to New Jersey.

00:30:59.560 We also have

00:31:00.400 Scott Pressler,

00:31:01.800 Early Vote Action,

00:31:03.620 and all of these groups,

00:31:05.240 I got to tell you,

00:31:06.120 that are coming into the state

00:31:07.400 have a track record

00:31:09.220 of experience,

00:31:09.900 and they're all doing

00:31:10.960 something different

00:31:12.500 to contribute

00:31:13.180 to the greater good

00:31:14.020 for Cittarelli.

00:31:14.780 So, America First,

00:31:15.580 Republicans in New Jersey,

00:31:16.920 we focus on, you know,

00:31:18.880 grassroots turnout

00:31:20.140 of the Trump voter,

00:31:22.320 the low-propensity

00:31:23.280 Trump voter

00:31:24.000 who doesn't get out

00:31:25.640 to the polls

00:31:26.800 except for

00:31:27.740 in presidential elections.

00:31:28.940 That's what we're focusing on

00:31:30.100 and kind of rallying

00:31:31.840 enthusiastic Trump supporters

00:31:33.280 to volunteer

00:31:34.520 to get the word out

00:31:36.960 for Jack Cittarelli

00:31:39.260 for the Trump voter.

00:31:40.640 Cliff Maloney

00:31:41.240 is doing an amazing job

00:31:42.560 of hitting doors

00:31:43.580 and meeting voters

00:31:45.020 where they are

00:31:45.720 at their house,

00:31:46.920 and then you have

00:31:47.520 Early Vote Action

00:31:48.440 where I have a lot of friends

00:31:49.260 over there, too.

00:31:50.580 They're encouraging

00:31:51.500 voter registration.

00:31:54.080 So, you know,

00:31:54.540 Cliff Maloney's been in the game

00:31:55.700 for a long time.

00:31:56.700 I know he's become

00:31:58.120 the master of door knocking

00:32:00.640 because I've seen him do it

00:32:02.220 in so many different campaigns

00:32:03.460 now for over a decade.

00:32:04.680 We've been friends.

00:32:05.740 So, with him doing that,

00:32:07.340 with people getting

00:32:08.180 new voter registrations

00:32:09.460 out there,

00:32:10.000 I see that happening

00:32:10.820 all over the place,

00:32:11.940 and with engaging

00:32:12.840 these low-propensity

00:32:13.820 Trump voters,

00:32:15.280 you're really giving

00:32:16.880 the New Jersey,

00:32:18.500 you know,

00:32:19.080 electoral situation

00:32:20.500 its best chance

00:32:21.860 in probably the last decade

00:32:23.620 because we have

00:32:24.580 all hands on deck,

00:32:26.060 everybody doing

00:32:27.200 their part,

00:32:28.760 you know,

00:32:29.680 around Jack's campaign

00:32:31.140 to help drive the message

00:32:32.920 and drive the turnout.

00:32:34.300 And obviously, Roger,

00:32:35.600 you know,

00:32:35.880 Jack himself

00:32:36.740 has become

00:32:38.260 a really good candidate,

00:32:39.420 strong candidate,

00:32:40.640 aligning with

00:32:42.100 President Trump

00:32:42.980 this time around.

00:32:44.700 They're, you know,

00:32:45.160 both joint

00:32:46.380 and in coordination

00:32:47.160 on some of the most

00:32:48.220 key important issues

00:32:49.320 such as law and order

00:32:50.740 and curbing and stopping

00:32:52.020 the illegal immigration

00:32:53.960 and invasion occurring,

00:32:55.500 particularly in New Jersey

00:32:56.800 and all the crime there.

00:32:57.960 So, I feel really good

00:32:59.460 about everything

00:33:00.040 that's coming together.

00:33:00.980 and obviously,

00:33:02.720 the folks out there,

00:33:04.680 the voters,

00:33:05.320 they know how high

00:33:06.000 the stakes are,

00:33:07.120 especially with what

00:33:07.820 we've witnessed

00:33:08.340 in our country, Roger,

00:33:09.800 over the last two weeks.

00:33:11.680 Everything that's been going on,

00:33:13.520 the enthusiasm on the ground

00:33:14.820 has been amazing

00:33:15.520 and everybody wants to pitch

00:33:17.140 in every way they can.

00:33:18.380 Really excited about the team

00:33:19.520 that we have here

00:33:20.280 around Jack Cittarelli.

00:33:21.920 All right, folks,

00:33:22.560 if you're just tuning in,

00:33:23.500 we're talking to Mike Crispy,

00:33:25.560 who is the head

00:33:27.000 of the America First Republicans

00:33:28.860 in New Jersey.

00:33:29.720 You're in the Stone Zone.

00:33:30.980 And we'll be right back.

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00:33:53.800 the host of Last Call

00:33:55.520 with Mike Crispy

00:33:56.380 on Real America's Voice TV,

00:33:58.160 as well as Mike Crispy Unafraid.

00:34:00.540 Create a syndicated podcast

00:34:02.460 with the Salem Podcast Network

00:34:03.960 that you can catch on rumble.com.

00:34:07.100 Mike Crispy's broadcasts

00:34:08.460 are among the most popular

00:34:09.840 in conservative circles.

00:34:11.580 He's really making a mark

00:34:12.680 for himself.

00:34:14.040 Mike, I think the day

00:34:16.180 will come yet again

00:34:17.180 when you run for public office.

00:34:18.540 I'm not sure that 2026 is the year,

00:34:22.860 but I have no doubt whatsoever

00:34:24.580 that you will answer the call again.

00:34:27.160 I do want to ask you,

00:34:28.700 given the tremendous progress

00:34:30.240 we're making in the Garden State,

00:34:32.220 what do you make

00:34:32.940 of the New York City mayor's race

00:34:34.880 and the fact

00:34:36.380 that New York City

00:34:37.980 appears to be on the cusp

00:34:39.560 of electing a mayor

00:34:41.280 who embraces the ideology

00:34:43.860 of those who attacked

00:34:46.280 the World Trade Center

00:34:47.360 on 9-11?

00:34:49.280 Well, Roger,

00:34:50.300 I watched last night

00:34:51.760 on MSNBC

00:34:52.780 Kamala Harris,

00:34:54.360 as she's doing her book tour,

00:34:56.000 give a tepid endorsement

00:34:57.560 of Zoran Mandabi,

00:34:59.420 and I said to myself,

00:35:01.040 if Kamala Harris

00:35:02.260 can't even really

00:35:03.460 outwardly endorse

00:35:04.580 Zoran Mandabi,

00:35:06.320 how bad

00:35:07.240 is the state of affairs?

00:35:09.140 I'll bet you're on

00:35:10.360 something completely different.

00:35:12.640 I have many friends

00:35:14.020 in finance

00:35:15.040 and who own

00:35:15.900 all sorts of types

00:35:16.880 of businesses

00:35:17.340 in New York City.

00:35:18.880 It's where I am

00:35:19.480 originally born and raised,

00:35:21.380 and they are

00:35:22.580 highly fearful

00:35:23.840 that they won't be able

00:35:25.880 to operate

00:35:26.820 their businesses,

00:35:28.180 that they won't be able

00:35:29.320 to charge rent

00:35:30.720 or be able to,

00:35:31.420 you know,

00:35:31.720 be landlords,

00:35:32.560 small landlords anymore,

00:35:33.540 or that they're even

00:35:35.500 going to be able

00:35:36.080 to have a sense

00:35:37.840 of safety

00:35:38.800 as they walk

00:35:39.700 the streets at night

00:35:40.640 because Zoran

00:35:41.880 does not believe

00:35:42.700 in jail.

00:35:43.820 He doesn't believe

00:35:44.360 in jail,

00:35:45.020 and he doesn't believe

00:35:46.220 in normal law

00:35:47.660 and order

00:35:48.040 and police presence.

00:35:49.500 So it is really

00:35:50.900 an unbelievable phenomenon

00:35:52.680 of what we're witnessing

00:35:54.440 in New York City.

00:35:55.760 I hope and pray,

00:35:56.840 Roger,

00:35:57.160 I saw you endorsed

00:35:57.860 Curtis Sliwa.

00:35:58.920 I hope and pray

00:36:00.100 that New York

00:36:01.180 can make the right decision

00:36:02.900 and get on the right track

00:36:04.380 here because Zoran's ideology

00:36:06.940 and everything

00:36:07.640 that he believes in

00:36:08.740 is the antithesis

00:36:10.200 of what has made

00:36:11.880 New York City

00:36:12.700 the greatest city

00:36:14.060 in the world.

00:36:15.480 And it is everything

00:36:16.420 that you invoked,

00:36:17.780 the World Trade Center,

00:36:18.640 9-11,

00:36:19.460 is everything

00:36:20.040 that we have

00:36:20.740 fought against

00:36:21.980 as a city

00:36:22.800 since that horrific day

00:36:25.140 that we'll live

00:36:25.660 in infamy

00:36:26.120 when people

00:36:27.520 of a radical,

00:36:28.580 hateful ideology

00:36:29.560 attacked our

00:36:31.320 precious World Trade Center

00:36:33.600 in the financial district

00:36:35.120 and attacked our city

00:36:36.320 and our country.

00:36:36.840 So the fact

00:36:37.840 that we are

00:36:38.380 where we're at

00:36:39.660 right now

00:36:40.180 is most troubling

00:36:41.700 to me,

00:36:42.220 Roger,

00:36:42.900 and I just really

00:36:44.100 hope and pray

00:36:44.660 every night

00:36:45.220 that New York City

00:36:46.420 rejects Zoran

00:36:48.340 at the ballot box.

00:36:49.820 It looks like

00:36:50.420 he's having

00:36:50.800 a hard time

00:36:51.460 winning the support

00:36:52.900 of black voters.

00:36:53.800 I was reading

00:36:54.200 this morning

00:36:54.600 that he's attempting

00:36:56.240 right now

00:36:56.720 scrambling 0.89

00:36:57.240 to talk to black voters

00:36:59.160 in the black churches

00:37:00.180 because they believe

00:37:01.480 he's going to be

00:37:02.000 pro-gentrification

00:37:02.980 or something like that.

00:37:03.800 So I don't know

00:37:05.480 if that will stop him

00:37:07.520 but right now

00:37:08.500 it's looking

00:37:09.020 pretty bleak

00:37:09.860 if we have

00:37:12.160 even Zoran

00:37:12.740 getting this far

00:37:13.560 in the election,

00:37:14.200 Roger.

00:37:14.780 So I hope

00:37:15.240 that the voters

00:37:15.740 reject him.

00:37:16.720 It'll be a really sad day

00:37:17.820 if he gets through.

00:37:18.980 I hope Curtis

00:37:19.560 can prevail

00:37:20.200 and beat him.

00:37:21.540 Mike,

00:37:21.900 I want to thank you

00:37:22.380 for joining us today

00:37:23.360 in the Stone Zone

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00:37:26.380 out there

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