James O'Keefe, founder of Project Veritas, a group dedicated to exposing government corruption and cover-up, joins me in this episode to talk about his experience with the FBI, and why he believes the Deep State is trying to silence him.
00:05:33.940I've had that shared experience again.
00:05:35.900When I went to trial in the District of Columbia, my lawyers wanted the fully unredacted final report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
00:05:45.520The Constitution says that when you're accused of a crime, you're entitled to see all of the evidence against you.
00:05:51.620But the judge denied that to us at trial.
00:05:55.280She also denied the famous crowd strikes memo.
00:05:58.340That was the report from the third-party IT firm who'd been brought in by the Democrat National Committee to supposedly inspect their servers,
00:06:09.580which allegedly said that the DNC had been the target of an online hack by Russian intelligence.
00:06:18.440Anyway, until BuzzFeed, of all people, sued the Department of Justice, that report, which exonerates me, was redacted for more than two years.
00:06:30.080Once it was finally unredacted, and of course BuzzFeed thought it would embarrass me, it did the exact opposite,
00:06:36.360only then did I learn that Robert Mueller couldn't sugarcoat the fact that he found no evidence of Russian collusion,
00:06:43.540no evidence of WikiLeaks collaboration, and in fact, he went so far as to say he couldn't find any other crime,
00:06:49.680which is why they invented this crime of lying under oath in my voluntary testimony to the House Intelligence Committee.
00:12:37.220But yet Trump still won the election in 2024 anyway.
00:12:42.720Well, I think that there's some divine intervention.
00:12:45.180I know you have referred your reporting to James Comer of the House Oversight Committee.
00:12:50.900I also know it's been referred to the Department of Justice.
00:12:53.560Once again, sadly, there has been no action.
00:12:56.180This is a recurring theme that's starting to upset many of the president's supporters.
00:13:01.920Tulsi Gabbard, who is someone I admire quite a bit, I'm extremely impressed with, has now declassified documents that prove definitively this is not investigative journalism, it's not conjecture, it's not supposition.
00:13:17.340She's provided hard, irrefutable evidence that there was a seditious conspiracy to take down Donald Trump, that it was born in a July 17, 2017 meeting in the Oval Office, chaired by Barack Obama himself.
00:14:14.680When we come back, I'm going to ask James why he thinks there has been no action and what does need to happen.
00:14:22.140You're listening to The Stone Zone with me, Roger Stone, and my special guest, James O'Keefe, who is the head of the O'Keefe Media Group, head of the once legendary Project Veritas, but now knocking them dead over at O'Keefe Media.
00:14:36.200Whatever you do, don't touch that dial, folks, because we'll be right back.
00:14:40.200This shrimp and coconut sauce is divine.
00:20:36.280It's artistic journalism as a form of storytelling, so there's kind of an overlap there in the sense of telling a story, piecing it together, and presenting it with narration and music.
00:20:48.080One of your most hard-hitting releases, I think, in your entire career was when you caught a Pfizer employee admitting that the pharmaceutical giant was engaged in a dangerous game-of-function type experiments regarding vaccinations.
00:21:02.760This week, President Trump announced that he was partnering with Pfizer on a project to lower pharmaceutical costs, and he praised a lot of their vaccination work.
00:21:12.980I myself disagreed with the second part of that.
00:21:16.540In your opinion, is it likely that President Trump negotiated certain concessions out of Pfizer, or is Pfizer exerting its influence over the administration?
00:21:31.320I mean, probably exerting some influence because there's, in my experience, there's been a revolving door between people at these companies and groups like the FDA.
00:21:42.760So there are probably people in the administrative states.
00:21:46.680It doesn't necessarily have to be as nefarious as that, but people playing the influence game, which is as American as apple pie.
00:21:55.320I've done some stories on the FDA where I saw officials just go into the government from Pfizer, but I haven't looked into this particular deal.
00:22:03.460The story you're referring to, which Bobby Kennedy even said was, at the time, was an enormously important story because it showed just how corrupt and even criminal Pfizer was acting in 2023 when their executive senior director of mRNA scientific planning said they were planning on mutating the COVID virus and experimenting on monkeys in China.
00:22:29.780It was born in a Chinese lab, and it was born in a Chinese lab, this virus, and the product wasn't good for their customers.
00:22:36.640It was just designed to make them money.
00:22:38.620This is a huge story, so big that a week later I was removed from the organization I founded, which there'll be more information about that coming out soon.
00:22:48.840But, Roger, I don't know in this particular case.
00:22:50.740I just know that there's a lot of overlap, and I'm sure there's some undue influence.
00:22:56.100Well, I point out that Robert Kennedy, who is someone that I've become very friendly with, who I admire very much as a man of courage and a man of integrity, says that this arrangement between the government and Pfizer is a good thing in the sense that it is going to bring down pharmaceutical drug costs for millions of Americans, particularly older Americans.
00:23:15.760And, therefore, that gives me some solace.
00:23:47.360Some of the people who were pardoned didn't even apply for a pardon, didn't even appeal for a pardon, hardened criminals.
00:23:54.540This looked to me like, therefore, somebody who works for him was doing this on an agenda basis, on a political agenda basis.
00:24:05.060So, yes, he gave pardons to people like Dr. Anthony Fauci and Adam Schiff and Jamie Raskin and Liz Cheney.
00:24:16.280This really is a rogues gallery, isn't it?
00:24:18.300And, of course, the way that that auto pen pardon gets tested in court is for the Trump Justice Department to charge one of those people.
00:24:29.100And when they are charged, their lawyers will come back and say, well, you can't charge Adam Schiff because he's been pardoned.
00:24:37.460The government would then argue the pardon was not valid because it wasn't signed by the President of the United States, as, by the way, my pardon was.
00:24:45.580And the courts will finally decide whether these auto pen pardons are valid or not.
00:24:50.480But it speaks to the larger question, one that I really do not understand.
00:24:55.820They raided your home at 6 o'clock in the morning.
00:24:58.200They raided my home or early in the morning.
00:25:00.800They raided my home at 6 o'clock in the morning.
00:25:06.960They frog marched my wife out of the house in her pajamas to her humiliation for the CNN cameras.
00:25:12.740At 6.11, my lawyer, Grant Smith, received a text message from Sarah Murray of CNN to say, your client has been arrested.
00:25:24.880He said, good Lord, arrested for what?
00:25:26.900And she texted him a draft of my criminal indictment, which was sealed.
00:25:32.700Remember, this is at 6.06 in the morning, which was 6.11 at that point.
00:25:36.520It was sealed until about 10.30 that morning when it was unsealed by a federal magistrate.
00:25:41.580Now, on the draft of my indictment, which had no court markings or court stampings on it, if you looked at the metadata tags, was the man who wrote it, Andrew Weissman, famously perhaps the most corrupt federal prosecutor in U.S. history.
00:25:58.400But that means that he leaked it, and that leak is, based on federal law, is a felony in itself.
00:26:05.020Leaking of an arrest or a search warrant prior to being executed is specifically a felony.
00:26:12.000Of course, a judge in my case could care less.
00:26:47.300Well, when Charlie Kirk died, I wrote a little something, and I also spoke to it and to the camera.
00:26:54.760And I think that Charlie said this to me, or excuse me, said this privately when he visited Steve Bannon in prison and talked about Tucker and talked about you and talked about me and talked about anyone on the front lines.
00:27:09.320And he said that the reason why people don't go on offense is because you get taken down.
00:27:14.280In our country, there's a lack of accountability for those who do evil.
00:27:17.300And I wrote that people who commit crimes don't fear accountability.
00:27:20.640And ask anybody at the Turning Point events that Charlie led, and they all say the same thing.
00:27:26.260You might even be – you're saying it right now on the radio, that those who do wrong face no consequences.
00:27:34.080No one's ever held accountable for anything.
00:27:36.380And justice isn't there for those who deserve it like the men you just mentioned.
00:27:40.420And they shine their handgun light not on the problems but on the people trying to expose the problems.
00:27:50.120So this is a principle we must understand, and without accountability, we live under the illusion of freedom.
00:27:55.520So my belief, and I believe this strongly, is the solution is to shame them through information and holding their feet to the fire like we did with the Sapstein story and like we're doing with this story.
00:28:10.160You just mentioned this auto pen story where this executive assistant for Senator Markey confesses that they lie and admits to driving Markey while under the influence and says Senator Markey can lie and blame staff for wrongly signed documents.
00:28:28.000The only solution is to bring out the information in bulk to enrage the people, to put pressure on the legislators for them to do the right thing.
00:28:36.940But, Roger, it makes no sense why Comey wasn't in handcuffs but me and you were.
00:28:43.680I don't understand that inconsistency.
00:28:45.780No, he actually hasn't even turned himself in yet.
00:28:47.920He hasn't until October 9th turned himself in voluntarily.
00:28:51.280Meanwhile, they have not seized any of his electronic devices.
00:29:12.600I think you summed this up, however, in your remarks after the brutal political assassination of our mutual friend Charlie Kirk when you basically said that journalists and truth-tellers must be willing to sacrifice their lives even.
00:29:27.420This is necessary, and words of wisdom for people who may be thinking of taking the plunge into becoming a journalist, a whistleblower, or something similar.
00:29:37.760We have to recognize this fault in the system, but we have to take action anyway.
00:33:21.520We're going to have citizen journalists get awards for their truth-telling work that they've done, risking everything to hold the powerful accountable.
00:33:30.720This is our big yearly event, citizenjournalistgala.com.
00:33:36.240And then it'll be hosted by me at Trump's Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, an awards ceremony honoring the fearless journalists and whistleblowers who risk everything for the truth.
00:33:47.380And the date of that again, one more time?
00:33:50.160It's November 13th at 5 o'clock at Mar-a-Lago.
00:38:15.460So if one of the listeners out there in Stonesville wants to give a big, fat contribution to the O'Keefe Media Group right now, where can they go do that?