Will New York AG Leticia James face charges related to mortgage fraud, mail fraud, tax fraud, insurance fraud, and even bribery? Or will she not? We know that the Federal Housing and Finance Agency has sent a formal letter to the Justice Department documenting allegations of mortgage fraud. We know this much because mortgage fraud investigator Sam Antwan Antwan has documented this and written about it extensively. But now comes news that the same Deep State operatives who infected the U.S. Attorney s Office under the Eastern District of Virginia and attempted to thwart the prosecution of former FBI Director James Comey are at it again.
00:00:25.520Well, will New York Attorney General Letitia James face prosecution for mortgage fraud, also based on things I've heard, mail fraud, tax fraud, insurance fraud, perhaps even bribery, or will she not?
00:00:43.720We know this much that the Federal Housing and Finance Agency Administrator sent a formal letter to the Justice Department documenting allegations of mortgage fraud.
00:00:55.820We know that mortgage fraud investigator par excellence, Sam Antar, who's going to join us later in the show, has documented this and written about it extensively.
00:01:04.660But now comes news that the same deep state operatives who infected the U.S. Attorney's Office under the Eastern District of Virginia and attempted to thwart the prosecution of former FBI Director James Comey are essentially at it again.
00:01:22.800The previous Eastern District U.S. Attorney, Eric Siebert, first of all, never disclosed news broke out right here in the Stone Zone that he had a material conflict of interest regarding potential matter regarding Letitia James, pardon me, regarding James Comey, and that his father-in-law, his wife's father, is the godfather to Comey's daughter.
00:01:47.020That would normally cause a prosecutor to recuse himself immediately.
00:01:51.460Instead, Eric Siebert prepared a 51-page memo outlining all the reasons that James Comey should not be prosecuted.
00:02:00.260That caused President Trump to fire him because that was not consistent with the evidence and to insert a brash but highly capable lawyer named Lindsay Halligan.
00:02:12.080Today comes news that Elizabeth Yussi, who is a prosecutor in that same office, has told evidently NBC and the U.S. or the U.K. Daily Mail that she sees no probable cause in a mortgage fraud investigation against James.
00:02:33.520The strange thing about that is she has not yet delivered that news to her boss, Lindsay Halligan.
00:02:40.620So the fact that you would see it on NBC or read about it in the U.K. Daily Mail prior to informing her superiors that that was her view is an act of bad faith in itself.
00:02:52.800Later on in the show, Sam Antar is going to review the case for us.
00:02:59.420The defense of the New York Attorney General Leticia James' lawyer, Abby Lowell, that there's one typographical error or that a letter was sent to correct errors pertaining to her most recent acquisition of a mortgage of a property in Virginia, where she very clearly signed a power of attorney, not once, but in 12 different places, witnessed by another attorney in the Attorney General's office,
00:03:26.540where she said that in order to get a lower mortgage rate and a lower insurance rate, that she would essentially own or occupy this property in Virginia.
00:03:37.600The problem with that, of course, is that if that were true, which it isn't, she would be under the New York State Constitution ineligible to be New York Attorney General.
00:03:57.980There are numerous questions about her various mortgages.
00:04:02.180You would think that you could go to the state-required disclosure reports that, as a public official, she must file.
00:04:08.940But they are a mess, meaning that properties appear in some years only to disappear and then reappear.
00:04:16.160Income from rentals appears for some years, but not all years.
00:04:20.140There's a lot of mortgages that she holds.
00:04:24.100This is all public information, but they're not reflected on her disclosures as is required.
00:04:28.560However, what's important to understand here is that all of this information on which the accusations regarded as the New York Attorney General are based, these are not secret government files of some kind.
00:04:40.220Every one of these documents is public and accessible to anyone who has a laptop, anyone who's on the Internet.
00:04:47.460So we will visit this question later on in the program with our guest, Sam Antar, who writes at whitecollarfraud.com.
00:04:57.500Meanwhile, there's obviously a huge focus after the indictment of James Comey about the discrepancies, or I should say the disparities between his case and mine.
00:05:07.580I was arrested in an early morning raid.
00:05:10.100He's allowed to casually turn himself in at a time of his choice.
00:05:17.520My home was stormed 24 hours after I was indicted.
00:05:21.140They showed up, as most people now know it, with 29 heavily armed FBI agents and a CNN camera crew in tow.
00:05:30.160As I wrote and said this week, we know how CNN got tipped off because I was arrested at 6.06 a.m.
00:05:38.100At 6.22, Sarah Murray, a producer with CNN, also some on-air, although I wouldn't say talent, sent a copy of a draft of my criminal indictment to my attorney, Grant Smith.
00:05:51.200And it had no court stamps or time stamps or court markings.
00:05:56.780So CNN's subsequent claim that they got this document online is a lie.
00:06:01.120But if you look at the metadata tags on the document, it was clearly written by the de facto head of the Mueller investigation, one Andrew Weissman.
00:06:09.820Now, under federal law, the leaking of grand jury materials, including draft indictments, or tipping someone off as to the plans to execute a search or arrest warrant, is very specifically a federal crime under U.S. Code, I think it's 180 U.S. Code, Section 401C.
00:06:33.740But that explains why they were at my home at that very early hour.
00:06:38.780In fact, they could say it was a stakeout, but that's kind of absurd because a stakeout is when you sit outside someplace for hours laying alone waiting for something to go down.
00:06:51.080Because I knew they were coming, I can tell you their camera crew showed up actually 13 minutes before the FBI and set up their tripods 25 feet from my front door.
00:07:00.720Now, the rest of the media was, I would say, a half mile away because I lived at that time on a dead end street and the police blocked off the end of the street so you couldn't enter.
00:07:11.520And the rest of the media, when the news broke that my home was being raided, was behind this rope.
00:07:17.200I know from a Fort Lauderdale police officer, now retired, who was called in to back up the FBI that day, that when he told the CNN camera crew that they needed to go down the street and get behind the rope line with the rest of the media,
00:07:34.280it was chewed out by an FBI agent who told him that CNN had special permission to film my arrest.
00:07:44.540And of course, then there's the question, once again, of the gag.
00:07:49.400The judge was unhappy with the fact that I spoke publicly about the fact that the FBI admitted in the early wrangling over motions in my trial that they had never investigated the computer servers of the Democrat National Committee.
00:08:03.180So the claim that the DNC was party to an online hack was disproven.
00:08:24.560It's a it's a logo of an organization.
00:08:26.300It's tiny in the upper left hand corner.
00:08:27.880But you wouldn't know that because when one of these media feeding frenzies goes down and everybody jumps to this huge conclusion, I threatened no one.
00:08:38.240They put enormous pressure on a bunch of people who work for me to say otherwise, but nobody was willing to lie.
00:08:46.300So now the question goes to the broader question of whether other the others involved in that July 17th, 2017 meeting of the cabal in the Oval Office presided over by President Barack Obama with Vice President Joe Biden.
00:09:04.640National Security Advisor Susan Rice, former CIA director, admitted communist and Islamic convert John Brennan, who's featured in Tucker Carlson's new series as the man who signed the visas for four of the hijackers who were Saudis who were told to attack this country on 9-11.
00:09:26.980He did so when he was the CIA station chief in Riyadh.
00:09:30.440But James Clapper, General James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, you remember him.
00:09:37.240He's the guy who testified under oath to Congress that the U.S. government had no metadata collection programs operating until Edward Snowden released the documents that showed that Clapper was lying.
00:09:51.560Now, in any normal world, Clapper would have been charged with lying about a material fact under oath, but instead he got a gig teaching ethics at Vermont College, can't make this stuff up, and being paid thousands of dollars to go on CNN and lie about the Russian collusion that never existed.
00:10:10.720And then, of course, there is Robert Mueller himself, who I think was actually non-composentist during the investigation.
00:10:18.640Andrew Weissman, the guy who wrote my cleverly constructed criminal indictment in which there is no Russian collusion nor WikiLeaks collaboration.
00:10:28.780It's all process crime in order to pressure me into flipping, which I, of course, refused to do.
00:10:36.740Now, Andrew McCabe is a particularly interesting individual.
00:10:40.700He's a former deputy director of the FBI who briefly served as director in 2017 but was removed from the FBI by March of 2018.
00:10:49.620McCabe's involvement in an unauthorized leak of sensitive information to The Wall Street Journal, blackened October 2016, is what led to his forced resignation.
00:10:58.300Many argue this shines light on the whole institutional bias, the personal conflicts of interest, and the pivotal role in what many now view as the politicized Russian collusion narrative against Donald Trump.
00:11:11.720This is the greatest single dirty trick in American political histories.
00:11:15.320It's an abuse of power in which they use the entire authority and the capabilities of our government to try to undo the 2016 election.
00:11:23.180Almost immediately after I was sentenced to 40 months in prison in a Soviet-style show trial that went down in Washington, D.C., the prosecutor in my case, one J.P. Cooney, announced that Andrew McCabe would face no charges, despite the fact that McCabe very clearly lied to Congress under oath on a material matter.
00:11:42.560Don't get me wrong. I did make misstatements in my sworn but voluntary testimony, but none of them were material, meaning they didn't hide any underlying crimes such as Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or anything else.
00:11:56.440Therefore, in truth, I have no motive to lie.
00:11:59.560Robert Mueller's own investigators were forced to admit this in his final report, but they had that redacted for years so that I would never know.
00:12:07.500My lawyers moved at trial for that report.
00:12:11.020The judge said she would not give it to them, but she would review the entire report in her chambers and give my defense lawyers those sections relevant to me.
00:12:20.960Somehow she missed the part on 178 that said I did nothing wrong, but that's the world we live in.
00:12:27.500I actually am beginning to become growingly optimistic that the entire cabal will face justice, not perhaps as fast as I would like them to, but I now have a greater belief that there will be justice.
00:12:42.540The truth is the president's base demands it.
00:12:47.280The president, I think, has given the orders to those who work for him to follow the law, but we all recognize that the Democrats and the left want to turn this into retaliation and weaponization and so on, as if they committed no crimes.
00:13:02.920And then there's the stupid Republicans who say, oh, well, if we're mean to them now, they'll be mean to us later.
00:13:07.800Ladies and germs, they tried to destroy me and my family and General Flynn and his family and President Trump, more importantly, and many others.
00:13:17.000What may lead you to believe that they would not do so again?
00:13:20.720We just found out that they spied on six Republican U.S. senators.
00:13:34.340So this is much, much worse than Watergate.
00:13:37.020And I know because I was there during Watergate.
00:13:41.280Focusing on McCabe, who was a career bureaucrat who rose up to the ranks of the deep state for his unethical and ruthless practices, is something I know quite a bit about.
00:13:50.960The Justice Department's Inspector General report in 2018 painted an extremely damning picture of McCabe, saying he lacked candor on four separate occasions when questioned about these leaks.
00:14:02.060We're going to talk about it more when we get right back to you right here in the zone.
00:14:06.540So whatever you do, don't touch that dial and continue to follow us online if that's where you're listening.
00:16:10.220He lied about that on four separate occasions under the law, lying to an FBI agent is the same as lying under oath to Congress, both felonies.
00:16:20.820But the Department of Justice declined to prosecute him in 2020 at the exact same time that they were trying to send me to jail for seven to nine years,
00:16:32.260Even though no misstatement I made was material.
00:16:35.080I think most people understand that the charges against me were, pardon the word, trumped up to create the leverage to try to get me to flip on Donald Trump since we have been friends for 50 years.
00:16:52.320The outrageousness of them not prosecuting McCabe, I think, is going to fade here because I think he still is among those who should and probably will face charges in connection with his role in the FBI's crossfire hurricane investigation,
00:17:10.180which really was the illicit takedown, attempted takedown of Donald Trump based on the fallacious and fabricated idea that the Russians had interfered in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump.
00:17:24.360But coming up next, we're going to examine whether New York Attorney General Letitia James is going to be prosecuted for mortgage fraud and then perhaps additional crimes such as tax evasion, wire fraud, mail fraud, insurance fraud, perhaps even bribery.
00:17:45.780Joining us, Sam Antar, Investigator Par Excellence.
00:17:50.060We're going to focus today specifically on the mortgage question because of stories put out by NBC and the UK Daily Mail today saying that veteran prosecutors, meaning deep state Democrats inside the Justice Department,
00:18:04.840are fighting the potential prosecution of Letitia James, claiming that there is no case.
00:18:11.600Sam Antar is going to join us shortly to tell us why he thinks that's wrong.
00:18:16.140So if you want a point by point breakdown of Letitia James's actions and why Sam Antar and I believe she should face prosecution, you'll stay tuned right here in the zone.
00:18:30.060We'll be right back on the other side with more hot political news, including the inside skinny on the potential prosecution of the New York Attorney General.
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00:19:49.340So I think at this point, everybody in the country is aware of the drama surrounding the decision to charge former FBI Director James Comey for his serial lies under oath to Congress about material matters to cover up the Russian collusion hoax and to cover up his own highly illegal directives to leak information that was classified but embarrassing to President Donald Trump.
00:20:19.160But now the prosecutors in the same office have, based on a referral from the Federal Housing and Finance Agency's lawyers, a criminal referral regarding New York Attorney General Letitia James.
00:20:33.380That referral is based entirely on public documents, which anyone with a computer can find and look at.
00:20:42.740But the man who's joining us now, Sam Antar, who is an interesting cat.
00:20:48.520I mean, he's an expert on fraud because he was once involved in some of the biggest criminal, sophisticated criminal fraud in history for which he paid his price, paid the price to society.
00:21:01.740And once he was rehabilitated, he has dedicated himself to using his extraordinary forensic accounting and investigating skills and his deep understanding of business and how it works to ferret out fraud and corruption by institutions and politicians as well as corporations.
00:21:23.420And he is actually the person, I think, who largely figured out that New York Attorney General Letitia James has a 43-year record of mortgage fraud.
00:21:37.080But today it is reported by both NBC and by the UK Daily Mail that a top prosecutor in the Eastern District of New York, where the home of Letitia James misrepresented the facts in order to obtain a mortgage in Virginia, a woman named Elizabeth Yussi, a prosecutor, has said that she sees no probable cause in the mortgage fraud investigation against James.
00:22:05.740And, of course, this is consistent with the fake news argument that Trump is using federal prosecutors as his personal instruments of revenge rather than focusing on the simple question of whether Letitia James, the highest law enforcement officer in the state of New York, is in fact guilty of mortgage fraud and perhaps worse, based on my sources.
00:22:31.440Joining us now are the editor and publisher of whitecollarfraud.com, the guy who documents all of his findings with the actual documents.
00:22:41.280You can go on that site and link to everything he says.
00:22:50.980Well, I'm very interested in your take, which you have posted regarding these reports today, that once again, people within the Justice Department are trying to claim that there is no case against Letitia James.
00:23:05.280And then the media claims that the efforts to bring her to justice are all just political retaliation because she prosecuted Donald Trump in New York.
00:23:23.480I'll go back to even my case where the FBI had a prosecutor who was ignoring evidence withdrawn from the case and replaced by another prosecutor.
00:23:36.260So this is not something that's unusual or abnormal.
00:23:41.400Well, it happens because prosecutors are human beings.
00:27:10.660My lawyers explained, first of all, the high bar for defamation, if you're a public figure, which I clearly am.
00:27:21.080And then secondarily, the cost at the time would have been extravagant.
00:27:24.860Today, when I probably could afford a litigation, the statute of limitations has run.
00:27:29.800But that doesn't mean she isn't a liar and she doesn't continue to lie.
00:27:33.740Just last week, she said that James Comey could not be perp-walked because the Department of Justice policy is that criminals are not perp-walked,
00:27:43.340in which case many people asked her online, but what about Roger Stone?
00:27:46.880So I guess the DOJ manual is just good for some people, but not for James Comey.
00:28:20.620If you're misrepresenting a residence as your primary residence, or you're misrepresenting the number of units on your residence to be below five units,
00:28:32.600you're going to be paying less in insurance.
00:28:35.260You're going to be also paying less interest to the banks.
00:28:38.960You're also going to have less in closing costs.
00:28:42.360You're also going to pay less mortgage tax in New York when you refinance the mortgage,
00:28:47.660as Joel Gilbert, who's been on your show, has said.
00:28:51.780Okay, so there is a financial motive to it.
00:28:55.780But irrespective of the financial motive, irrespective of whether the banks relied on the lies, the law is clear.
00:29:04.900It doesn't matter if the bank relied on that.
00:29:08.100It doesn't matter if the person's benefit is financially or not.
00:29:12.020What matters or not is that she lied on the documents.
00:29:58.340In 2023, she showed two mortgages on a different Virginia property.
00:30:04.700When I go to the title company, those two mortgages don't exist, but she has an unreported mortgage on that state of Virginia property that she never disclosed for three years.
00:30:17.220And if you add the two mortgages and the mortgage that she has on the property, it's about three times the value of the property.
00:30:25.020How was she able to borrow three times the value of a property?
00:30:29.760Well, isn't that what she accused Donald Trump of?
00:30:32.060I saw her recently in an interview with Joy Reid, that intellectual giant, where she said, you know, the prosecution of mortgage fraud is very, very, very rare, making the case that she was being singled out.
00:30:48.540The prosecution of somebody in New York state for overvaluing their assets in order to obtain commercial real estate development loans is nonexistent.
00:30:57.460No one has ever been prosecuted under that law other than one Donald J.
00:31:02.540And that was by Letitia James, who ran as a candidate for attorney general, saying she would, quote, unquote, get Trump before she had any evidence that Trump had actually done anything wrong, which he hasn't.
00:31:28.460What about the tax implications here, Sam?
00:31:31.640Tax implications also, because there are different tax treatments for interest on loans as it relates to primary residences and et cetera and how much money you're allowed to get.
00:31:48.080So this is what I'm speculating on, the tax treatment.
00:31:52.180But as far as the income tax treatment, but as far as the mortgage tax treatment, she's fried.
00:31:57.640Well, I mean, to be clear, once you're under federal investigation and federal prosecutors can obtain all of your bank records, all of your campaign bank records, all of your personal documents, all of your emails, all of your text messages, that generally speaking, if you're a corrupt individual, which she very clearly is, based on this trail of mortgage fraud, leads, I think, to broader questions.
00:32:36.200And with some of our earlier discussions, Roger, way back when, on this channel, okay, showed how she was spending money lavishly from her campaign, trips to Martha's Vineyard, $6,000 in cab rides while she's in Martha's Vineyard, all kinds of stuff.
00:33:14.340Now, as I recall, I think she scheduled a campaign fundraiser there or some official tour of some facility in order to try to lay this all off on the taxpayers and claim it was an official visit.
00:33:30.880For which, of course, the state would have to pay.
00:33:33.560I suspect that that is an extraordinary area of exposure.
00:33:42.840Lindsay Halligan is an enormously capable and determined individual of enormous integrity.
00:33:48.260She's going to go where the evidence leads.
00:33:51.800I don't think she's going to be dissuaded by a career prosecutor, just as she was not dissuaded by the 51-page memo that Eric Siebert and the previous U.S. attorney had concluded.
00:34:04.500Anyway, we'll be back to talk about Letitia James and where this investigation goes with Sam Antar on the other side.
00:35:18.420One of the other areas where Sam Antar has done extraordinary investigative reporting is into the campaign of the frontrunner to become mayor of New York City,
00:35:28.580Democrat nominee, well-known socialist and Islamist, the Ayatollahs, I like to call them, Zoran Mamdami.
00:35:39.220Now, if you believe the public narrative, Mandami's phenomena is a grassroots-fueled exercise in the greatness of democracy and that he's challenging the special interests in the dark money and the political elites.
00:35:58.920Sam Antar has documented that Mamdami's rise was paid for by an interlocking series of nonprofits and political committees, largely funded by billionaires and other left-wing progressive influences who don't live in New York City.
00:36:16.240So the idea that this is a grassroots uprising is a fraud.
00:36:21.660In early reporting, despite huge hits on social media, Mandami on all the social media, getting millions of visits, Sam Antar uncovered the fact that none of those people bothered to go to his campaign website and click the contribute button.
00:36:42.240And that is, until Sam Antar pointed that out, then the campaign quickly amended its filings.
00:36:49.200Sam, you examined how the Mamdami rise was funded.
00:37:03.900Okay, George Soros gives money to Open Society Foundation, which is known as a 501c.
00:37:10.440He gets a tax deduction on his income taxes, and also he moves the money out of his estate for estate taxes.
00:37:16.840Okay, the 501c will transfer it to either tides, which is another 501c, or to a 501c4.
00:37:24.720Okay, or tides will transfer it to a 501c4.
00:37:28.140But the difference is, if you contribute money through a 501c3 to a 501c4, which is a political action entity, okay, if you contribute money direct, you don't get a tax deduction.
00:37:41.720But if you funnel the money through a 501c3, you get a tax deduction.
00:37:46.380So the taxpayers are paying for Mamdani's rise, okay?
00:37:51.340Because all the billionaires that he hates, and he says to be taxed more, he doesn't talk about that tax loophole, which I believe has also been used illegally.
00:38:04.300I noticed that most of his money actually came from bundlers.
00:38:07.140You would think that his money would come from small, individual contributors.
00:38:11.440Of course, New York has the famous 8-to-1 matching fund system.
00:38:16.280So if any of the money that Mamdani raised was actually from illegal sources, and he put it through the city's 8-to-1 campaign matching funds, that's actually an additional crime.
00:38:28.060Sam, have you filed a comprehensive complaint with the IRS?
00:38:32.060We have about a minute and a half left.
00:38:35.440What do you think they will do, if anything?
00:38:38.340I believe that the IRS is going to take action, okay?
00:38:45.720You can't, it's about substance over legal form, and the IRS has the right to do it.
00:38:52.160When you look at the behavior of charitable, tax-deductible charitable dollars going into political action, that is illegal.
00:39:01.600That is something that can, that can, they can lose a tax-exempt status, and somebody's going to have to pay billions of dollars in back taxes and penalties.
00:39:12.460All right, I think it's an easier case for the IRS to digest.
00:39:16.260All right, I'm afraid we have to leave it there.
00:39:18.420You can go to whitecollarfraud.com to read Sam Antar's extensive reporting on the rise of Mamdani and how exactly it was financed in great detail.
00:39:27.840He even has some very cool charts and so on.
00:39:30.560Meanwhile, you can continue to follow us here at the Stone Zone for the latest updates on whether those members of the Russian collusion cabal and those who tried to destroy Donald Trump are going to face justice or whether they're going to walk.
00:39:46.120No, it's not about retaliation and revenge.
00:39:48.440It's about recalibrating the scales of justice so those who engaged in the greatest abuse of power, what I think was a seditious conspiracy to topple a duly elected president are going to face justice or not.
00:40:03.800Thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:40:05.480Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
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