The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

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00:00:12.460 Well, disgraced former FBI Director James Comey has pled not guilty

00:00:17.980 after being arraigned on charges of making false statements under oath

00:00:23.380 and obstructing a congressional proceeding.

00:00:25.900 Essentially the exact same two crimes that I was accused of.

00:00:30.820 They threw a witness tampering charge in there, but if you really examine it,

00:00:36.460 all I did was tell the guy who wasn't feeding his dog

00:00:40.020 that I would take the dog away from him because I'm a dog lover.

00:00:44.040 They said I was threatening a government witness. Nonsense.

00:00:47.480 But I wasn't given the privilege he was given.

00:00:51.260 He wasn't required to do a perp walk.

00:00:53.480 He was even allowed to enter the building through the back door

00:00:56.120 to avoid attention from the media, a privilege that was not afforded to my wife and I

00:01:01.840 when 29 heavily armed thugs came in with attack dogs,

00:01:08.240 a battering ram to break down my front door.

00:01:11.360 I opened the door looking down the barrel of two assault weapons.

00:01:15.980 My wife, who's hard of hearing and didn't know that I had been arrested, 0.74

00:01:20.040 had slept through all of this, was awoken looking down the barrel of two guns.

00:01:25.900 She didn't know if this was a home invasion or what. 0.67

00:01:28.440 And then she was humiliated and marched out in the street in her nightclothes.

00:01:33.480 Handled very, very differently than the case of James Comey.

00:01:37.460 The exact same two crimes, in essence.

00:01:40.140 When asked why he didn't do a flashy raid on Comey,

00:01:43.640 the FBI director, Kash Patel, said the mainstream media wants to take the eye off the ball

00:01:48.300 and create theater.

00:01:49.700 Well, I don't disagree with Kash in this sense.

00:01:53.020 I was, they stormed my home literally 24 hours after the grand jury indicted me.

00:01:57.980 So it didn't leak and they struck and they did it for maximum media attention.

00:02:04.540 Talk about a stakeout.

00:02:05.820 A stakeout is when you sit outside someone's house and wait for hours.

00:02:09.420 I happen to know because I was watching, the CNN camera showed up approximately 13 minutes

00:02:15.060 before the FBI, some stakeout.

00:02:18.260 And all of the rest of the media was down at the end of the road where I live,

00:02:23.040 which was a short dead end street.

00:02:25.640 They had, they had, the police had roped off the end of the street.

00:02:29.040 The rest of the media was behind a rope line there, a good half mile from the house.

00:02:33.240 And when a Fort Lauderdale police officer had been called in to back up the FBI,

00:02:39.520 told the CNN crew they would have to go with the rest of the media,

00:02:43.000 he got chewed out by an FBI agent who said that CNN had special permission

00:02:47.420 to broadcast live my arrest.

00:02:50.720 But once that opportunity, if Comey was not arrested in the immediate aftermath of his indictment

00:02:59.880 and that became an issue, the point now, of course, is that it would be pointless to do it.

00:03:05.300 I think the point has been made.

00:03:07.800 The Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, said the noise from MSC

00:03:11.160 and from retired agents are unnamed anonymous sources about perp walks,

00:03:15.000 all that is just noise.

00:03:15.960 Let's recognize the Democrats pushing this whole Trump has weaponized the criminal justice system

00:03:22.320 he's just using to go after his enemies, exactly what they did to Trump,

00:03:26.620 which is a false narrative, would only be empowered at this point

00:03:31.020 if they perp walked, arrested Comey in a raid at his home in perp walks,

00:03:36.100 as enjoyable as that might be.

00:03:38.760 At the same time, I do think both Patel and Blanche kind of missed the point,

00:03:42.380 which is the humiliation of the process is the punishment.

00:03:50.520 The left understands this.

00:03:51.940 That's why when we get into power and then we act with kid gloves.

00:03:55.780 We're at war against the left.

00:03:57.300 They want anyone to the right of Karl Marx to receive the Charlie Kirk treatment,

00:04:04.120 and they say so.

00:04:05.340 So I think it's time to use every tool at our disposal

00:04:08.820 to demean, to vouch, devastate, and defeat this enemy, starting with James Comey.

00:04:14.480 I find it outrageous that prosecutor, there's a prosecutor,

00:04:19.500 according to NBC and the UK Daily Mail,

00:04:24.660 there's a prosecutor, Elizabeth Yussi,

00:04:27.920 who oversees the major crimes prosecutions

00:04:30.800 in the Norfolk office of the Eastern District of Virginia.

00:04:34.040 She is reported by both media outlets to believe that the case

00:04:40.540 against New York Attorney General Letitia James has no probable cause.

00:04:45.220 But she has not yet formally told her boss, Lindsay Halligan,

00:04:50.480 the acting interim use attorney, that.

00:04:53.560 She's highly irregular.

00:04:55.140 I imagine Halligan is learning it through these media reports.

00:04:58.440 But beyond that, it's also a violation of law.

00:05:01.200 There's a specific law that says you cannot comment on an investigation

00:05:04.960 that is still in process in which no final determination has been made.

00:05:09.740 So Ms. Yussi is acting in violation of the law. 1.00

00:05:14.840 We had Sam Antar from White Collar Fraud on yesterday.

00:05:20.360 He went through the case point by point.

00:05:22.660 There's a very clear case, not just of a mortgage fraud,

00:05:26.560 but a 43-year crime spree of mortgage fraud.

00:05:29.480 So I think this is an interesting twist.

00:05:34.020 It just shows you how all these U.S. attorney's offices under Joe Biden

00:05:39.600 and his predecessor, Barack Obama, because many of those people stayed in place,

00:05:44.620 are infected with people posing as law enforcement unbiased professionals

00:05:51.000 who are, in fact, the very people who tried to prosecute Donald Trump.

00:05:55.120 And speaking of that, Jack Smith, in what has to be one of the most stunning revelations

00:06:01.220 of all time, was actually spying on eight members of the U.S. Senate.

00:06:05.360 Didn't Richard Nixon go down for some of his minions breaking into the Watergate

00:06:12.680 to spy on the Democrats, as I recall?

00:06:15.400 So this is shocking in the sense that it is an example of the extra-legal things that were used

00:06:23.780 in the effort to get Donald Trump.

00:06:26.180 Getting the judge, Beryl Howell of D.C., to order that Donald Trump's own lawyer,

00:06:32.360 Evan Corcoran, had to discuss all of his conversations with his client

00:06:37.080 and disgorge all of their internal documents and emails in violation of the Sixth Amendment.

00:06:42.100 Where do you find a judge who would sign off of that?

00:06:44.940 Oh, the District of Columbia.

00:06:46.660 Another example of the tactics used to get Roger Stone.

00:06:50.880 It's interesting because there has been a complaint pending at the Department of Justice

00:06:56.300 regarding Jack Smith, who came originally out of Brooklyn, I believe,

00:07:01.000 but who ends up with a very cushy job as a prosecutor in the international court

00:07:07.840 representing the United States in The Hague.

00:07:10.100 But there are allegations that when he was doing so, he shook down a number of people

00:07:16.220 connected to the crisis in Kosovo who wanted to not be called war criminals.

00:07:22.860 I know that General Flynn has seen the complaint, and he believes it has merit,

00:07:28.540 and that complaint's been sitting with the DOJ.

00:07:30.860 But, of course, there's no action on that.

00:07:33.400 I would suggest that this new act of spying on the senators, let's find out what else

00:07:40.080 Smith and his band of thugs did.

00:07:44.980 Smith really would only fall, and his whole documents case in Mar-a-Lago collapsed,

00:07:52.140 when a courageous Florida judge ruling on the basis of the constitutional law pointed out

00:07:57.740 that Jack Smith's appointment and the powers he was given as special counsel were not constitutional.

00:08:04.100 He had never been confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

00:08:06.820 Had he been a U.S. attorney elevated to the office of special counsel,

00:08:11.100 he would have had legal authority, but that never happened.

00:08:13.860 Additionally, there's no law creating his position,

00:08:16.680 and there is no budget paying for his position and his activities.

00:08:23.760 So this was the most vicious political weaponization of the justice system of all time,

00:08:32.320 and they coordinated with prosecutors in Georgia and New York.

00:08:37.040 They were all in the same room.

00:08:38.840 This was part of the organized takedown of Donald Trump and many of his supporters.

00:08:43.180 And now we learn about Arctic Frost.

00:08:46.740 Arctic Frost was just the next step of that.

00:08:50.280 That was the codename for a specific Justice Department and law enforcement investigation under Joe Biden.

00:09:01.400 You see, it really is one continuing conspiracy.

00:09:04.260 It begins on July 17, 2017, in an Oval Office meeting run by Barack Obama himself.

00:09:12.300 Joe Biden's there.

00:09:13.960 Susan Rice, the national security advisor, is there.

00:09:17.220 James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, is present.

00:09:23.440 The head of the CIA, John Brennan, the admitted communist,

00:09:28.500 the man who got caught red-handed spying on a Senate committee previously

00:09:34.600 that was investigating his illegal use of torture.

00:09:37.980 That's the original cabal, but that seditious conspiracy, this tsunami of lawfare and impeachments,

00:09:48.760 all grow out of that meeting.

00:09:52.280 Speaking of the impeachments, there is incredible news that, as I expected,

00:09:58.820 the Trump second impeachment, the Ukraine impeachment, was not an offensive move against Trump.

00:10:05.460 It was a defensive move to hide the illegal activities of Joe Biden and his son, exactly as we said.

00:10:13.860 You remember, Joe Biden said in the debate with Trump that no one in his family made a penny from any foreign country.

00:10:21.020 But the Biden laptop, which they had to swiftly try to discredit just before the election,

00:10:28.540 referred to Joe as the big guy.

00:10:31.740 It turns out he was much bigger than we thought.

00:10:33.900 A newly declassified memo shows that then-Vice President Joe Biden's office intervened

00:10:40.360 to prevent the Central Intelligence Agency from circulating a 2016 intelligence report

00:10:46.120 detailing how top Ukrainian officials had dealt with his son in terms of their business dealings.

00:10:53.340 This report, which was released by CIA Director Ratcliffe last week,

00:10:58.800 complied redactions from senior Ukrainian officials following Biden's December 2015 trip to Kiev.

00:11:06.100 This is the trip in which Biden basically goes and says,

00:11:10.340 if you don't fire the prosecutor investigating my son and his client Burisma,

00:11:16.060 I'm going to withhold this billion dollars.

00:11:19.840 And he brags about this, an open act of bribery.

00:11:26.300 They, of course, say, oh, well, Victor Shokin was an out-of-control, corrupt prosecutor.

00:11:30.760 No, Victor Shokin was getting at the truth in a country where the truth is very hard to find.

00:11:36.580 But this is really extraordinary.

00:11:38.020 During the 2015 meeting, Biden pressured then-President Poroshenko, as I say,

00:11:43.900 to fire the country's top prosecutor, Victor Shokin, this is according to The Daily Caller.

00:11:48.320 At the time, Shokin was investing Burisma.

00:11:51.160 Officials with Poroshenko's administration privately said that the U.S. media coverage of Hunter's business ties

00:11:56.860 and saw them as evidence of the double standard in Washington's approach to corruption.

00:12:01.460 So the point, of course, here is that Joe Biden and members of his family,

00:12:05.980 and the House Oversight Committee has more than proved that,

00:12:09.480 made tens of millions of dollars, which Joe Biden himself did share in,

00:12:15.200 despite the fact that he claimed that he didn't.

00:12:17.740 But it also enriched his brother, his son, and many members of the Biden crime family.

00:12:24.400 He took bribes during the time he was vice president.

00:12:27.580 The Oversight Committee has shown that.

00:12:29.380 He took a massive bribe from China, basically giving it to the University of Pennsylvania,

00:12:34.340 who turned around and gave Joe Biden essentially a million-dollar professorship for doing absolutely nothing.

00:12:44.100 So Joe Biden should be prosecuted along with those in the cabal.

00:12:50.440 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone, and we'll be right back.

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00:14:07.900 A shocking new poll in the upcoming New York race for governor.

00:14:15.360 Congresswoman Elise Stefanik is zoaring in a new poll,

00:14:20.260 showing her now just five points behind the incumbent Democrat Kathy Hochul.

00:14:24.460 Hochul, you recall, was the lieutenant governor who moved up to the governor's office

00:14:28.380 after the crash and burn of Andrew Cuomo,

00:14:31.740 who resigned ahead of impeachment.

00:14:34.480 This new poll shows that Stefanik has narrowed the gap to just five points,

00:14:40.000 with Hochul at 48, Stefanik at 43.

00:14:43.340 But interestingly enough, when voters are made aware that Hochul has endorsed the far-left radical Democrat

00:14:51.740 socialist candidate for mayor of New York City, Zoran Mamdami.

00:14:57.060 Stefanik then pulls into the lead, leading Hochul 46 to 45.

00:15:02.760 This shows you what a polarizing figure Mamdami has already become. 0.97

00:15:08.900 These findings are not surprising to me.

00:15:12.980 They essentially show that Hochul is vulnerable.

00:15:16.040 Other polling I've seen show some of the highest job disapproval ratings

00:15:21.460 and unfavorable ratings that I've ever seen by a politician.

00:15:25.580 When I looked at polling that was intended for that special election for Stefanik's seat,

00:15:32.540 Hochul's disapproval rating, even in that Republican district, was off the charts.

00:15:37.080 You would have expected it to be high.

00:15:40.300 But Stefanik is an outstanding candidate.

00:15:43.520 She's battle-tested.

00:15:45.880 She's been very aggressive, trying to hold the New York State politicized judiciary to account, 1.00

00:15:52.520 which was abused in the attempt to try to get Donald Trump.

00:15:57.240 She has really distinguished herself in Congress.

00:16:00.680 And she very graciously accepted the fact that the president decided to pull back her appointment

00:16:08.540 as U.N. ambassador, where she would have done a terrific job because her service in the Congress

00:16:13.440 was just too important with this slim Republican majority.

00:16:17.020 And she has continued the fight, is now, I think, openly making it clear that she intends to run for governor.

00:16:24.540 I think that she's going to be a very strong candidate.

00:16:28.160 Look, New York and New Jersey, these are very tough states.

00:16:31.920 These are blue states.

00:16:33.540 But you see it happening in the Garden State right now,

00:16:36.400 where Jack Cittarelli is coming on in the polls.

00:16:39.080 And clearly, victory is in his grasp, if he can just hold on.

00:16:44.620 And if they don't steal it in Camden and Newark and other big Democrat city machine strongholds.

00:16:56.220 But if a Republican can win in New Jersey, at least Stefanik could theoretically win in New York.

00:17:02.100 It's going to be an extraordinary campaign.

00:17:04.480 But given the high taxes, given the high crime rates, I believe she's extraordinarily vulnerable.

00:17:11.320 And I'm glad to see Stefanik is going to, as Richard Nixon would say, get in the arena.

00:17:18.440 She's a fighter. 1.00

00:17:20.440 And very clearly, a Mamdami victory could actually propel Alicia Stefanik to the governor's chair 1.00

00:17:27.980 as the voters across New York State get an eye full of what Mamdami's soft on crime, high taxes, will do for New York City.

00:17:39.280 All right, we're out of time here.

00:17:40.640 I want to thank you for joining us on The Stone Zone.

00:17:43.100 We'll be right back with Richard Brzezak.

00:17:45.800 He is the former commissioner of the Chicago Police Department.

00:17:49.200 Tell us about what's going on in the fight between Antifa and ICE law enforcement officials in the Windy City.

00:17:58.220 Don't go away.

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00:18:09.280 Welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:18:14.600 Yesterday, we had Mark Vargas, the editor-in-chief of the Illinois Review, reporting on the shocking developments in Chicago.

00:18:23.220 Yesterday, we reported that on Saturday, the Chicago police were ordered to stand down after a group of ICE agents were surrounded and in distress under attack from radical Antifa operatives in the city's Brighton Park neighborhood.

00:18:44.120 Turns out that stand-down order came from the mayor and the governor themselves.

00:18:48.060 There's some question as to whether they have some serious legal liability.

00:18:52.980 But to get an assessment of the entire situation on the ground in Chicago, joining me now is the former commissioner of the Chicago Police Department, Richard Brzezak.

00:19:03.880 He is a hard-nosed, non-political, by-the-book, highly respected law enforcement officer and attorney, someone who rose from being a simple patrolman in the Chicago Police Department to the top job under one of Chicago's greatest mayors, Jane Byrne, who was a good friend of mine.

00:19:26.200 And trust me, although she may have been a Mondale delegate, she definitely voted for Ronald Reagan.

00:19:33.740 But, Richard, thank you for joining us today on the show.

00:19:37.360 I want to get your assessment of these shocking events.

00:19:40.720 The idea that fellow law enforcement officers would be physically endangered and the Chicago police would stand idly by, I guess this is consistent with what you told us about the politicization of the once-great Chicago Police Department.

00:19:58.760 That's absolutely correct, Roger.

00:20:00.580 You have two people, Brandon Johnson, the DEI mayor of Chicago, that's dumb, evil, and incompetent, not the other DEI.

00:20:13.240 But you've got him and you've got Pritzker, the wannabe next Democrat candidate for president in 2028, trying to make a name for themselves with their continuing anti-police decisions and activity.

00:20:31.880 And when I say anti-police, they're telling the police to step down, is not trying to protect the Chicago police from harm.

00:20:44.040 They're trying to really embarrass the police.

00:20:46.920 The police, because of what happened, the Chicago Police Department is really kind of like the laughingstock of the United States, especially among the major cities.

00:20:56.800 Because that kind of order to stand down is disgraceful.

00:21:03.420 It's despicable.

00:21:05.120 It's a shameful, shameful order.

00:21:08.900 Well, Richard, it appears, based on everything I have read, that this order was handed down to the Chicago Police Department from Mayor Johnson and Governor Pritzker.

00:21:19.080 And many, many legal analysts believe that that puts both of them in legal jeopardy, that they could be held responsible in a spiraling legal crisis, because that is patently illegal.

00:21:36.960 And they may have personal liability for anyone who is injured.

00:21:40.080 And the president himself today blasted both Pritzker and Johnson, saying they should both be in jail for issuing these executive orders that prohibit the Chicago Police Department from obstructing federal law.

00:21:54.020 This is shocking that in the once great city of Chicago, where Richard J. Daley, I don't mean Richie Daley, I mean Mayor Daley, who was the mayor during the 1968 Democrat Convention, a man who was seen on national television but not heard saying two uncouth words at Abe Ribicoff, who was making an anti-war speech from the platform.

00:22:20.700 Daley was a daly, and Daley was a stout supporter of the Vietnam War, Lyndon Baines Johnson's conduct of it.

00:22:26.860 And he opposed those in his party, like Eugene McCarthy and later Robert Kennedy, who broke with Johnson over the war.

00:22:35.980 So I saw that the president ordered the Texas National Guard or arranged the Texas National Guard to send 300 guardsmen to Chicago, Commissioner Brzezak.

00:22:50.600 Can they be effective with that smaller force?

00:22:54.680 Sure, that can be effective.

00:22:56.280 You know, well-trained personnel can be effective.

00:22:59.600 And at the same time, there are other significantly large law enforcement agencies in the Chicago area, starting with the Chicago Police Department, whereby they can assemble large numbers of officers, you know, with the appropriate riot gear if they need that, to go into an area fairly, fairly quickly.

00:23:23.860 The thing is, is that this is a political game being played by two amateurs, Brandon Johnson and J.B. Pritzker in Illinois.

00:23:36.320 And President Trump is absolutely correct.

00:23:40.900 It isn't, you know, I'm not sure about the civil liability of the mayor and the governor because I'm just not, I haven't really looked at that area of law recently.

00:23:52.700 But the president is absolutely correct because any action by a local official to interfere with, obstruct, obscure, defeat the actions of federal law enforcement officers, whether it's by action or a refusal of an action,

00:24:15.020 can subject them, can subject them to criminal prosecution for interfering with a federal law enforcement officer.

00:24:23.420 And they don't really care.

00:24:24.960 Let me make clear to people, just so you know, Richard Brzezak has not only served the city as probably their last great police commissioner, but he also is an attorney.

00:24:36.400 He was a partner at the firm of Levy & Aarons, where he was specialized in commercial litigation, bankruptcy, and real estate law,

00:24:44.900 and later went into private practice, concentrating primarily in criminal defense,

00:24:49.500 with experience with civil jury trials, administrative hearings, criminal and civil practices, and the state and federal courts.

00:24:55.600 So he's not just a law enforcement officer.

00:24:57.720 He's a skilled attorney, so I give great weight to his words regarding the possible penalties here.

00:25:06.660 Richard is a graduate of the University of Chicago Law School.

00:25:11.200 So it's amazing to me that J.B. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson, Johnson says the Republicans want a civil war,

00:25:21.040 yet he's the guy who has hooligans throwing bricks, rocks, bottles, swinging clubs at police officers.

00:25:30.940 He's the one who has Antifa operatives surrounding and endangering ICE agents who are merely trying to carry out their responsibilities,

00:25:41.200 of arresting and deporting some of the most dangerous, vile criminals in society.

00:25:48.420 This administration recognizes that there are many people in the country illegally who are peaceful,

00:25:55.100 and the emphasis has been on identifying those who have criminal records, either here or substantial criminal records,

00:26:02.140 where they came from, and deporting them first.

00:26:04.900 But that is not being assisted by the Pritzker-Jonskin Brigade.

00:26:14.740 The politicization of the Chicago Police Department, Richard, this is not something that happened yesterday, is it?

00:26:22.120 No, it isn't.

00:26:22.980 It started under Richard M. Daley, the second Daley mayor.

00:26:28.120 Richard.

00:26:28.460 He's the one that began the program with his so-called merit appointments in promotions.

00:26:36.900 These are people who couldn't pass promotional exams but were promoted anyway because they had political connections.

00:26:45.240 And they were so bold to post the list of the political merit appointees as to who their sponsor was.

00:26:53.580 It could be an alderman, it could be a state senator, it could be a U.S. congressman or senator.

00:26:59.600 They posted, you know, their sponsor right there, made no bones about it.

00:27:03.500 I mean, you talk about chutzpah, at least in the old days when they fixed the promotion list.

00:27:09.360 You know, they fixed it in secret, you know, and made it look like it was, you know, legitimate

00:27:14.640 until the U.S. government's Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department came in in 1972 and legitimatized all the exams.

00:27:23.640 But, you know, what happens here is they just do what they want.

00:27:27.980 We see it not only in Chicago.

00:27:30.100 We saw it during the Biden administration in Washington.

00:27:32.740 We saw it in the Obama administration in Washington.

00:27:36.240 You see it with Hochul up in New York, you know, any place, Newsom in California.

00:27:41.660 They just do what they want.

00:27:43.000 They don't care about consequences because, you know, they're so corrupt.

00:27:49.040 You know, it's gotten to the point where corruption to them is their new normal.

00:27:54.100 And that's the way it is.

00:27:55.640 And they've always been corrupt, but now it's openly, outwardly corrupt.

00:28:00.540 And the problem is, is that President Trump is taking the position of cleaning up the corruption, cleaning up the crime, cleaning up the politicization, where people have, you know, the right to vote has been affected.

00:28:17.720 They've been denied because of the vote fixing.

00:28:20.380 You know, it's been going on all the time in the Democrat city.

00:28:24.040 Wait a minute.

00:28:24.420 Vote fixing in Chicago?

00:28:26.040 I've never heard of such a thing.

00:28:27.740 It's amazing.

00:28:28.460 A few days ago, Mayor Johnson signed an executive order that designates parts of the city of Chicago as ice-free zones.

00:28:37.660 The order bars city police from sharing information with federal immigrant officials or assisting in arrests involving illegals.

00:28:46.560 Johnson said the policy was intended to protect immigrant communities.

00:28:50.480 What about protecting the law-abiding citizens of the city of Chicago?

00:28:53.680 I guess he doesn't care about that.

00:28:55.220 By the way, virtual all legal analysts say that this order signed by the mayor is a blatant violation of federal law, specifically violates U.S. Code 1324, as it is a felony to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection an individual known to be in the country illegally.

00:29:15.840 Anyone, whether a private citizen or an elected official who aids and abets such actions, could face up to five years in prison or more if the offense involves violence or results in injury.

00:29:28.160 So it sounds to me like Pritzker and, pardon me, Johnson and perhaps Pritzker, if he also was a part of this, which you know he was, could have a serious problem.

00:29:41.920 Additionally, other legal analysts point out that 18 U.S. Codes Section 111 makes it a crime to forcibly audit, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers engaged in their duties, which is punishable by up to eight years in prison if the officer is injured.

00:30:00.580 And then, of course, 18 U.S. Code 1505 criminalizes obstruction of federal proceedings or investigations carrying an additional penalty for up to five years.

00:30:11.940 I'll tell you this, J.B. Pritzker would lose some weight in prison, that's for sure.

00:30:15.840 Well, yeah, he'd probably be, you know, holding court in prison, you know, talking, you know, to all his Democrat voters who put him into office even while they were in prison about how great he is.

00:30:31.500 But the problem is that these people simply, you know, want to demonstrate their pejorative ignorance.

00:30:40.280 You know, Johnson would be better off if he created ice-free zones in his frozen brain.

00:30:47.580 It would maybe loosen up a little bit and he could see what the law is and what, you know, people are entitled to in terms of overall safety.

00:30:56.660 Brandon Johnson is an embarrassment.

00:30:59.260 First of all, he has a 6% approval rating.

00:31:02.640 My sources tell me that he's in and out of the hospital with panic attacks.

00:31:06.760 He's not up to this job.

00:31:08.420 He spews nonsense about civil war and he keeps calling on the city, residents of the city, to rise up and resist these federal officers doing their duty.

00:31:21.980 That's an act of insurrection.

00:31:23.980 I think that's highly illegal.

00:31:26.660 He also said, this shocks me, but I do love it.

00:31:30.240 He said that all of the problems of the city of Chicago, including the rise in crime, were Richard Nixon's fault.

00:31:38.780 Richard Nixon's been dead for 40 years.

00:31:42.780 I think what this lame brain was trying to say is that Nixon's southern strategy is a cause of New York, of the country's racial problems.

00:31:51.940 Let's be very clear.

00:31:52.660 Richard Nixon, who desegregated the public schools, 86% of public schools were segregated when Nixon became president.

00:32:00.840 When he left office, that number was 16 with no bloodshed done totally legally through lawsuits.

00:32:07.120 Nobody killed, nobody killed, no violence.

00:32:09.980 Richard Nixon, who tripled the funding for black colleges.

00:32:15.260 Richard Nixon, who increased ninefold civil rights law enforcement in the U.S. Justice Department.

00:32:22.900 Richard Nixon, who gave us affirmative action, which many of my conservative friends despise, but was a huge leg up for the black community.

00:32:32.240 So the myth of the southern strategy that Nixon, yes, he did have to run between Hubert Humphrey on his left and George Wallace on his right in the south and carry those border southern states in order to win the 1960 election.

00:32:47.780 So the southern strategy of having a number of conservatives support you, if you look at his actual civil rights record, well, the 1958 Civil Rights Act would not have passed the U.S. Senate, but for Vice President Richard Nixon going out and rounding up the votes for which Dr. Martin Luther King wrote him a glowing letter.

00:33:07.560 So I'm not sure what Brandon Johnson's talking about, the fact that he's even in office and that he continues to impede this heroic effort where these law enforcement officers with ICE are putting their lives on the line to fulfill their duties.

00:33:24.340 You would expect that they could have the local police at their back as opposed to standing by idly as their lives are endangered.

00:33:33.760 Anyway, we're with Richard Brzezak.

00:33:36.800 He's the former commissioner of Chicago police, and we'll be right back.

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00:33:52.460 Thank you for staying with us here in the Stone Zone.

00:33:56.240 We're talking to Richard Brzezak, the former commissioner of the Chicago Police Department in the once great, windy city.

00:34:05.800 Chicago used to be known as a city that worked.

00:34:08.380 That's when Richard J. Daly was mayor, succeeded by his able, a taxi commissioner, Jane Byrne, who was a great woman, a great mayor.

00:34:18.460 She served when Richard Brzezak was the police commissioner.

00:34:23.580 I think the Chicago Police Department really went downhill under Rahm Emanuel in an incredible scandal where the department essentially hid evidence regarding a shooting of, I think it was an African-American by officers who were white.

00:34:41.700 Tell us about that, Richard.

00:34:43.660 That was the Laquan McDonald case.

00:34:45.660 What happened is there probably were two dozen to 15 officers at the scene.

00:34:53.920 Nobody had their guns out.

00:34:55.560 The kid was a little hyper, and he had a small knife in his hand, although you can get hurt by a small knife very seriously.

00:35:02.940 And they were keeping him at bay.

00:35:04.640 And one of the last cars that pulled up, the officer got out of his car, walked around the car, took his gun out, and he put 16 shots into Laquan McDonald.

00:35:18.080 Even after he went down, he was shooting into his body.

00:35:21.240 And no one thought that this was ever going to get out because they had an informal policy in Chicago to turn the in-car cameras off.

00:35:31.840 And one car had an in-car camera that happened to be going, and it caught the whole thing.

00:35:38.520 It would happen right in front of that car's camera.

00:35:41.440 And all hell broke loose, not right away, because while the bosses and Rahm Emanuel knew about it the next morning as to what exactly happened, it took a freelance reporter, not the fake news that's in Chicago, who protects all the Democrats over there all the time,

00:36:00.600 but an independent reporter who got a Freedom of Information Act request granted by a judge who ordered the video to be released.

00:36:10.160 And they went into high gear.

00:36:12.160 The Democrat state's attorney, the prosecutor of the county, indicted the shooting officer the day before the judge released the video.

00:36:22.100 So, you know, everything was, you know, CYA.

00:36:25.500 CYA. 0.69

00:36:26.260 Wow, that's extraordinary.

00:36:27.840 Yeah, Rahm Emanuel, who I hear, by the way, is actually thinking about running for president.

00:36:33.620 I know that sounds crazy, but he recognizes the total absence of a field, and he is a wily, canny guy who understands the game.

00:36:44.200 I'm not an admirer by any means, but he didn't get to be mayor of Chicago for no reason.

00:36:49.740 He did not get to elect a president for no reason.

00:36:54.040 All right, I'm afraid we have to leave it there.

00:36:55.620 I want to thank our guest, former Police Commissioner Richard Brzezak, who always brings the heat and the real authority on what's going on on the ground in the Windy City.

00:37:05.820 Thank you for joining us today on The Stone Zone.

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