The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.520 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:07.500 Happy Friday to you. My name is Ken Matthews. Back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:12.280 Yes, I snuck back into the Stone Zone, and I'm guest hosting for Roger Stone tonight.

00:00:18.180 I was listening to that introduction.

00:00:20.740 You know, all those presidents relied on Roger Stone,

00:00:24.680 and Ken Matthews' wife is waiting for him to fix the faucet.

00:00:30.000 In the guest bathroom.

00:00:32.340 So there's a, you know, I can sort of understand the pressure that Roger was under,

00:00:38.980 you know, answering to different presidents and being in the political matrix, if you will.

00:00:44.500 And a part of history, I'll have to say, because the man has written some great books.

00:00:49.000 But can he fix the plumbing in the guest bathroom?

00:00:54.420 Anyway, it is great to be here on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:00:57.180 Once again, what a lovely week.

00:01:00.140 It's been a week of action and activity, propaganda, misinformation,

00:01:05.300 all the things that make our Great Republic challenging.

00:01:11.600 But let's start with a little comedy, if you will, because I enjoy comedy.

00:01:14.780 And this has got to be one of the funniest women. 1.00

00:01:19.000 I mean, when you look at comedians and people that make you laugh, I got to tell you, Kamala's right up there.

00:01:26.160 Well, some people have actually said I was the most qualified candidate ever to run for president.

00:01:31.060 Okay, I just...

00:01:31.780 I'm sorry.

00:01:35.660 Let me play that again.

00:01:37.500 I didn't think we'd start off with such a strong laugh.

00:01:40.120 But this is a good one.

00:01:41.760 Well, some people have actually said I was the most qualified candidate ever to run for president.

00:01:47.340 Oh, my goodness.

00:01:52.460 You know, the thing that's so impressive about liberal delusion is the confidence they attach to arrogance.

00:02:05.200 It is amazing to me that she says that with a straight face.

00:02:09.200 That's like when Joe Biden said, I'm as fit as a fiddle,

00:02:12.880 and then walked into the bushes because he couldn't find his way to the restroom.

00:02:17.300 Anyway, here's the number, 800-848-9222.

00:02:23.020 A lot of talk about what I think...

00:02:25.300 I think this is a major development, and there's plenty out there.

00:02:28.480 I think this is the third criminal, in my opinion only, alleged criminal.

00:02:35.960 Got to do all that lawyer talk, you know?

00:02:39.000 John Bolton, the third alleged Trump hater and criminal indicted by a federal grand jury in Maryland this week.

00:02:46.380 So that was kind of a treat.

00:02:49.080 Actually, it's kind of a start.

00:02:51.200 And here's what's really interesting.

00:02:53.720 As much as the folks on MSNBC is...

00:02:57.420 Hold on a second.

00:02:58.100 Are they still on the air?

00:03:00.700 MSNBC is still...

00:03:01.940 Okay.

00:03:02.900 Because I know they're letting some people go, which is terrible because, you know,

00:03:07.820 I really can't relate because I've only been fired eight times.

00:03:10.820 But so they're still on the air then.

00:03:13.760 Oh, wow.

00:03:14.420 And they still have a news operation.

00:03:17.080 That's incredible.

00:03:18.140 Okay.

00:03:18.420 So we're just going to roll that.

00:03:19.740 If you can roll that soundbite.

00:03:21.700 They actually...

00:03:23.060 The guy knows that the stuff that Bolton has been indicted for is really bad stuff,

00:03:30.580 and it's legitimate.

00:03:31.420 So as much as they're trying to pretend that Donald Trump is going on a revenge tour,

00:03:38.140 he's picking on everybody.

00:03:40.700 No, he's not.

00:03:41.940 No, he's not.

00:03:42.680 He's doing what Republicans and Democrats didn't have the guts to do over the last 10 years.

00:03:48.040 And I'm with him on this one.

00:03:51.020 I say we keep beating this drum until there's no more drum.

00:03:55.820 You're absolutely right.

00:03:56.480 I think it's a lot different, actually.

00:03:58.120 This is what my sources are telling me than those other cases, which appear to be largely without merit.

00:04:04.080 But this one, though, arose in the Biden administration.

00:04:07.140 Hold on a second.

00:04:08.080 Now, he has to say that.

00:04:10.240 Okay.

00:04:10.600 That's Ken Delanian, I believe.

00:04:15.740 I do appreciate his first name.

00:04:17.800 He's Justice and the Intelligence Correspondent.

00:04:22.360 Now, you would think that, well, don't even get me started on the CIA.

00:04:25.740 Maybe if we have time, we'll talk about that.

00:04:27.300 Well, no, we will talk about it today.

00:04:29.500 Because the CIA is not my favorite group of people, especially now with Venezuela.

00:04:34.840 And I don't see Ken talking about that on MSNBC.

00:04:38.580 But he had to do the disclaimer, you see?

00:04:41.060 He had to say, well, you know, the Bolton indictment is not as, you know, as, you know, meaningless as the other ones.

00:04:50.580 No, the Comey indictment, these other indictments, and it's Tish. 0.97

00:04:57.460 Who's the one with the – she has a 20-year-old niece on OnlyFans that's always, like, shaking her butt. 1.00

00:05:04.820 And did you see that video? 0.95

00:05:06.860 It's awesome.

00:05:07.860 It's awesome.

00:05:08.340 She's got to be part of the Hunter Biden club.

00:05:11.700 There's always nudity.

00:05:13.900 There's either drugs, nudity, firearms, nudity.

00:05:19.740 Did I mention nudity?

00:05:21.360 So, anyway, let's get back to why Bolton's indictment is legit.

00:05:26.540 And you know it's got to be sad for the folks on Morning Joe to be admitting that.

00:05:32.740 But it is.

00:05:33.260 It's looking really bad for Bolton.

00:05:35.580 And if there's any time to shave off that mustache that looks like a paintbrush or Colonel Sanders is out drinking, now is the time.

00:05:45.360 I would shave that off before you get into court, and you'll be less recognizable.

00:05:49.020 And this is a very serious and detailed indictment.

00:05:53.900 It says that John Bolton derived secrets from his time as national security advisor, assembled them because he was writing a book, sent them over unclassified email and messaging apps to his wife and daughter.

00:06:06.260 We've identified the two people as his wife and daughter.

00:06:08.640 And then that information was hacked by the government of Iran.

00:06:12.500 At least one of those email accounts was hacked.

00:06:14.560 And so the government of Iran obtained some of these state secrets, according to this indictment.

00:06:20.800 And the indictment says that Bolton used language that made clear he knew he was talking about sensitive information, things like the intel briefer said or when in the situation room, I learned.

00:06:31.320 And what seems to be the case is that they did not know the extent of what was in at least one of his email accounts until they discovered that Iran, they discovered the material that Iran had hacked.

00:06:43.060 Well, look at that.

00:06:45.020 I love it.

00:06:46.120 I love it. 0.96

00:06:46.660 No, I don't like security breaches, but, you know, some of these guys and Bolton's a he's he's a he's a Republican clown. 0.98

00:06:55.300 I mean, there's clowns to the left and clowns to the right. 0.97

00:06:57.680 We're stuck in the middle together. 0.96

00:07:00.720 But, you know, John Bolton, an elitist neocon. 0.98

00:07:07.980 Are we allowed to say war whore or do we have? 0.99

00:07:10.780 Oh, we have to say warmonger. 1.00

00:07:12.200 OK, then I'm not going to say war whore, but I never liked him. 1.00

00:07:16.740 And and it's not it doesn't have anything to do with the mustache. 0.98

00:07:20.940 It has to do with he's one of those Republicans.

00:07:23.260 And unfortunately, there's too many in the fold right now who want to go to war in the Middle East and Venezuela and they want to go to war in the Ukraine.

00:07:30.680 And they're thinking, oh, my God, can you imagine if we get into a war with Russia, how rich we're going to get?

00:07:35.920 That's the that's the vibe.

00:07:37.380 That's the vibe I get from John Bolton.

00:07:41.540 So there are always the people that say stuff like I can't believe Donald Trump had stuff in Mar-a-Lago and in storage boxes and all that.

00:07:51.440 And and and yet he had top secret, unsecured, open platform. 0.89

00:08:00.760 I mean, this is ridiculous. 0.92

00:08:02.620 This is if you thought Hillary was ridiculous with her thing, that's I hope she's indicted next. 1.00

00:08:09.460 I want them all indicted on what they did, because if you or I did what they did, we'd all be in jail now.

00:08:17.620 Like the Jan Sixers were for two and three years, some without a charge. 0.94

00:08:22.720 So, no, I can't let it go.

00:08:24.520 I'd like to let it go.

00:08:26.260 I'd like to say, oh, come on, give him a break.

00:08:28.880 No.

00:08:29.760 And I'll tell you something else. 0.99

00:08:31.180 You put Joe Biden's butt in a chair. 0.99

00:08:35.660 A comfortable one with wheels on it. 1.00

00:08:38.260 And you wheel his butt into prison where he belongs. 0.98

00:08:43.000 Already we're getting this thing about Joe Biden. 0.99

00:08:45.420 And, well, you know, he's my God, give him a break. 0.99

00:08:48.820 His brain is gone. 0.98

00:08:50.100 He has cancer. 0.93

00:08:52.480 No, no.

00:08:54.440 We do that all the time.

00:08:55.660 We always make up excuses.

00:08:57.340 We can never follow through with justice.

00:09:00.140 That's the problem.

00:09:02.160 Why is it so hard to get justice in this country on any level?

00:09:06.320 Any level.

00:09:07.380 Whether someone stole your car in Idaho or they broke into your house in Seattle, it's hard to get justice because at the very top, the people that have all the power that can make a phone call and get justice, they don't even do it.

00:09:27.340 They let the John Boltons and the James Comeys and Brennans and that clown Christopher Wray.

00:09:35.300 These people walk all over the American Republic. 0.77

00:09:39.100 We need to we need to awaken to this and take care of it through a U.S. intelligence penetration of Iran.

00:09:46.740 That's according to my reporting.

00:09:48.580 And that's one of the reasons this case didn't go forward in the Biden administration.

00:09:52.360 Did you hear this?

00:09:53.140 It didn't go forward in the Biden administration.

00:09:55.380 It could have.

00:09:56.800 But why would it?

00:09:58.560 Why would anybody in power go after one of their own supporters?

00:10:03.880 This is what we're facing in this country.

00:10:05.680 We're facing it at every single level with every single crime from illegal voting to pick a crime.

00:10:13.520 There's not a crime that's done in this country that hasn't already been done or is being done by people in power.

00:10:22.500 And the reason they don't get touched is because they have the power and they have the money.

00:10:28.460 Because officials were concerned about revealing that penetration.

00:10:32.460 The Trump administration has made a different calculation.

00:10:35.040 They're OK with revealing it.

00:10:36.160 They've revealed it now to the Iranians.

00:10:38.040 So whatever penetration they had is now shut down.

00:10:40.760 That's how badly they wanted to prosecute John Bolton.

00:10:43.620 All right.

00:10:43.820 There it is.

00:10:44.240 Did you see it?

00:10:44.760 So the front and back end of that package, it started out with Trump's going after someone else that he didn't like.

00:10:55.480 OK. 0.99

00:10:55.900 And that's that's bull crap. 0.98

00:10:57.300 And then he wraps it up with, look how bad President Trump wants to go after the former security advisor, John Bolton, just because he was using open source platforming and telling top secret stuff to people that weren't even in the government. 0.98

00:11:15.900 They weren't even cleared.

00:11:17.020 And then he got hacked by a real enemy of ours.

00:11:22.260 And they didn't make a big deal out of it.

00:11:24.480 So this is, you know, there's a lot of legitimacy to this if MSNBC is actually covering it and talking about it realistically.

00:11:35.580 Now, let me talk about the CIA.

00:11:37.260 By the way, this is the Stone Zone and I'm filling in for Roger Stone.

00:11:43.120 My name is Ken Matthews and the phone number is 800-848-9222.

00:11:48.660 And we're on the Red Apple Audio Networks heard around the world.

00:11:54.340 And thank you for that.

00:11:56.220 Now, President Trump just gave the green light to CIA action against Venezuela.

00:12:05.820 And I am not happy about it.

00:12:08.700 This is official.

00:12:09.660 And then it was confirmed yesterday.

00:12:11.640 But last week, President Trump did something that very few people know about.

00:12:17.200 And I am going to tell you about that coming up next on the Roger Stone Show on the Red Apple Audio Network.

00:12:23.820 Stick around.

00:12:24.340 We'll be right back.

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00:12:57.700 The Stone Zone.

00:12:59.640 Entertaining and informative.

00:13:01.680 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:13:04.520 And the phone number is 800-848-9222.

00:13:08.140 My name is Ken Matthews.

00:13:09.300 Yes, I've snuck back into the Stone Zone.

00:13:12.100 Mr. Stone is off tonight.

00:13:13.380 It's my pleasure to be on the Red Apple Audio Networks filling in for the legendary Roger Stone.

00:13:20.420 And before I start this next segment, I just want to share a soundbite from my neck of the woods, Pennsylvania.

00:13:26.140 My senator, one of my senators.

00:13:28.280 I didn't vote for him, but I have to tell you, I never thought I'd say this.

00:13:32.260 I never thought I'd say it in public.

00:13:34.180 But there are moments I'm actually warming up to Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman.

00:13:40.400 I never thought I'd say that.

00:13:41.500 If you told me 10 years ago, I would, I would, I would scoff at you.

00:13:48.460 I'm the only Democrat in my family.

00:13:50.620 I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania.

00:13:54.300 And now I grew up and I, I knew, I know and I love people that voted for President Trump.

00:13:59.320 By the way, you hear that little, that, that's not a technical issue on our end.

00:14:04.720 That's, he always wears a hoodie and they never tell him, don't put the microphone inside the hood.

00:14:13.660 Because every time you move, you're going to, I don't know about that.

00:14:18.760 But they are not fascists.

00:14:20.820 They're not Nazis.

00:14:21.860 They're not trying to destroy the Constitution, those things.

00:14:24.740 And that's part of another thing.

00:14:26.800 I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists or I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler and those things.

00:14:37.600 And now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue.

00:14:41.460 We're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things.

00:14:48.500 Like Charlie Kirk.

00:14:49.780 For me, all I could say is, is like, let people grieve.

00:14:53.520 Give, give people the space.

00:14:55.820 I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that pastic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views. 0.99

00:15:02.700 It's like, my God, you know, he's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet.

00:15:07.640 And now people have forgotten.

00:15:09.600 President Trump was, in my state, was shot in the head.

00:15:13.780 And if that would have, could you imagine where our nation would be if he was hit in the same way with Kirk?

00:15:18.140 Look, we really got to turn the temperature down and we can agree to disagree on these kinds of things.

00:15:25.140 But right now, shutting down the government.

00:15:29.400 I just can't take it that.

00:15:31.240 I'm the only.

00:15:31.800 We'll see.

00:15:32.160 Now, I respectfully disagree with him.

00:15:34.000 I, if the government stays shut down for, is it shut down?

00:15:37.980 I'm just kidding.

00:15:39.140 I think it's been 16 days.

00:15:41.160 And yes, I do think that Congress should make an exception and pay the troops.

00:15:48.540 I do.

00:15:49.300 I do.

00:15:49.720 I think they're essential.

00:15:52.480 A whole bunch of other things continue.

00:15:55.200 I do.

00:15:55.800 I disagree with Fetterman on the shutdown, but I agree with him completely on turning down the temperature.

00:16:00.760 And if you call people Nazis and Hitler and fascist enough, other people start to believe it.

00:16:09.040 And the people that know history, if they're not completely informed, they start to think, my God, you know,

00:16:17.960 how many people say we're living, you know, so-and-so's a Nazi, and if you don't know history enough,

00:16:25.520 but you know enough to be angry about it, you're going to get people that are willing to do horrible things to other people based on labels.

00:16:35.140 And that's why we need to protect free speech, which is a biggie. 0.86

00:16:40.080 And we have to, and you know, I direct this not so much toward the clowns that live on social media.

00:16:51.400 I direct it toward people in government, because they use your rhetoric as an excuse. 0.84

00:16:59.080 We'll be back.

00:17:00.760 The Red Apple Audio Networks, The Roger Stone Show.

00:17:04.420 I'm Ken Matthews.

00:17:05.620 It's great to be here with you on a Friday night.

00:17:07.360 We'll be right back.

00:17:37.360 And today, we'd love to talk business.

00:17:44.360 The Stone Zone.

00:17:46.300 Entertaining and informative.

00:17:48.340 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:17:51.180 My name is Ken Matthews, sitting in for Roger tonight in the Stone Zone.

00:17:56.020 Always good to be with you.

00:17:57.280 The number is 800-848-9222.

00:18:00.980 Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:18:03.400 Great to see you on a Friday night.

00:18:05.340 We were talking about Trump greenlighting CIA action against Venezuela.

00:18:10.260 I'm not happy about it.

00:18:12.120 And if you know the president, please let him know.

00:18:14.840 Because he has not returned my calls in 11 years.

00:18:18.780 But he calls Roger back.

00:18:21.480 Just letting you know.

00:18:23.800 That's got to be cool.

00:18:24.820 You have to admit, it's got to be cool.

00:18:27.480 I mean, think about this.

00:18:29.620 If you had one phone call to President Trump for 30 seconds, what would you?

00:18:35.540 Now, I know what some of you might say, especially in the blue states.

00:18:40.480 I know what you might say.

00:18:42.420 You say it online.

00:18:43.340 But, I mean, if you had 30 seconds, if you had his undivided attention, it's something to think about, isn't it?

00:18:50.260 So, if you do get through, tell him that Ken Matthews is ticked off about this Venezuela thing.

00:18:56.000 And here's why.

00:18:57.300 Because I think President Trump is letting his ego and his emotions get involved in this whole Maduro thing.

00:19:02.980 And we don't have enough time to go through the whole history of Trump and Maduro and his first term and then what happened in the interim and what's happening now.

00:19:13.020 But Donald Trump confirmed he has authorized the CIA to conduct covert operations inside Venezuela.

00:19:20.040 And he said he's weighing strikes that target drug cartels on land now.

00:19:28.480 Okay?

00:19:29.140 Now, I was okay. 0.99

00:19:31.740 I was okay with the whole, you know, if you're a drug cartel, which means you're a terrorist organization and you can kill my family in some manner or form, 0.71

00:19:42.540 and you're heading toward the great republic of the United States of America, even though it hasn't been a republic for a while, 0.98

00:19:49.460 you're heading toward the coast, I do think you should be blown out of the water.

00:19:53.200 And I would like to see it on video because some of my friends and I are really, that's cool to watch.

00:19:58.920 Especially when the bad guys get blown up.

00:20:02.180 But this thing about we may come on land and we're sending more aircraft and this I don't like.

00:20:10.340 And then, wait for it, the whole thing about the new authority that President Trump just gave to the CIA will allow it to carry out lethal operations in Venezuela

00:20:23.500 and conduct a range of operations in the Caribbean.

00:20:28.960 Okay.

00:20:29.600 So, just, again, this is legalese.

00:20:32.840 And anybody who's familiar with the history of the CIA, and if you're in the CIA, don't tell me because it's a secret.

00:20:40.040 But the history of the CIA is legal, salad, you know, authorize, under the direction of, cooperate with, carry out, all this blather.

00:20:54.820 The CIA is an intelligence gathering organization.

00:20:59.340 That's how it started.

00:21:00.400 That's what Truman signed off on when it transitioned from the OSS.

00:21:05.420 And it's turned into this pretty much secret team, this black op team, that they do it from soup to nuts. 0.95

00:21:17.220 They get you the intelligence and then they go and they hire someone, some guy from another country, and they hire a pilot.

00:21:24.920 Then they take a plane and they wash the plane.

00:21:27.820 You know, they take a plane and they wash any sign of America off of it.

00:21:31.360 And they say, okay, you, let's take Gary Powers for a second.

00:21:35.300 You, we're going to have you fly over this country illegally without even telling the president. 0.54

00:21:40.480 And then if the poop hits the fan, much like Tom Cruise, you will disavow any knowledge.

00:21:46.380 Or we'll just disavow you.

00:21:48.480 So my fear is with Venezuela, I think Trump has a bone to pick with Maduro unnecessarily.

00:21:57.660 And I'll tell you why in a second.

00:21:59.280 And he's just going to go in and they're going to topple the government because that's what the CIA does.

00:22:06.060 How dare you?

00:22:07.520 No, it does.

00:22:08.300 What do you think that, what do you think they have that operation for?

00:22:11.340 The whole central intelligence agency is to gather intel and then to tell big, big people in charge and the bigger parts of the government, like the Oval Office, sometimes the Joint Chiefs of Staff, sometimes, and then to topple the government.

00:22:34.660 So they're going to, they're going to, the, they have expertise in destabilizing governments.

00:22:41.520 In fact, I would argue respectfully, and I say it with all due respect, thank goodness I'm so unknown, they, I'm not even on a grid yet.

00:22:52.120 Few institutions have committed more illegal acts under the banner of national security than the CIA.

00:22:58.180 And it worries me because Trump was one of those people that just seven, eight years ago, he was railing against the deep state, said we shouldn't be meddling abroad.

00:23:10.440 I'm a non-interventionist.

00:23:12.240 We shouldn't be poking our, you know what, where it doesn't belong, he says, as now we're sending troops to Israel, sending more troops to Ukraine, sending more money to Ukraine,

00:23:22.000 sending CIA and air force assets to Venezuela.

00:23:29.920 And we're flirting with getting in a war with Putin, who is, of all the people I just mentioned, Putin is not even something we should worry about at this point.

00:23:40.520 But again, if you sift through the hype, I still think one of our biggest threats is communist China.

00:23:51.520 And it's an economic threat, it's a military threat.

00:23:55.920 But there's, Trump is claiming the reasons for this is because, and this is what we've been fed, and who could feed us this information?

00:24:04.140 What we've been fed is that somebody in Venezuela got up one day and they said, you know what we should do?

00:24:11.120 We should release all the really skanky, nasty prisoners and send them right to St. Louis and Dallas and Chicago. 0.98

00:24:23.340 And I don't think it happened that way, okay?

00:24:25.440 Because so far, there is no hard evidence that Nicolas Maduro and his regime deliberately release prisoners or psychiatric patients.

00:24:38.560 Excuse me.

00:24:39.800 Some psychiatric patients are duly elected congressmen and they're still serving us. 0.83

00:24:46.020 That was just a bad psycho joke.

00:24:48.180 Let that go. 1.00

00:24:49.240 We know they're sociopaths. 0.97

00:24:50.800 I don't know if they're psychotic yet.

00:24:52.040 So we have these psychiatric patients and all this stuff and the, what is the narrative?

00:24:58.900 The narrative is that, you know, Venezuela let all these things go, let all these people go.

00:25:04.240 It was a mass release.

00:25:05.260 But see, there's no mass release orders.

00:25:08.160 There's no official decrees.

00:25:11.400 Caracas couldn't keep a secret, just like Washington, D.C. can't, Caracas rather.

00:25:18.620 Washington, D.C. can't keep a secret either.

00:25:20.640 Journalists, you've got journalists, you've got NGOs, you've got rival political factions that routinely operate in and out of the Venezuela prison system.

00:25:31.180 So if something like this happened, intentionally, if it was an evil plot, I think we would know about it other than just having politicians attach it to their excuses.

00:25:42.380 So my belief, again, this is only my opinion, and everybody has one.

00:25:46.600 You know what opinions are like, right?

00:25:49.840 Like congressmen.

00:25:51.700 Any large-scale release would have been impossible to conceal.

00:25:56.660 So, and then he, and Trump talks about drugs.

00:25:59.440 Okay, I get it.

00:26:01.360 You just tell Maduro, get a grip on your cartels, whether you're involved or not, get a grip on it, because we're going to keep blowing them out of the water.

00:26:12.220 And if they break our airspace, we'll blow them out of the sky, if we know for sure.

00:26:18.680 That's all you have to do.

00:26:19.880 We have the most powerful military in the world.

00:26:21.860 And we don't need to blow stuff up, blow stuff up with it all the time.

00:26:28.780 We have it.

00:26:31.020 Recruitment is up.

00:26:32.560 We have Pete Hegseth, who, every time I see him, he looks like he wants a war.

00:26:39.420 Now, I'm not saying he does, but he looks like it.

00:26:41.820 That's how you want people to look.

00:26:43.400 Like he said, no more beardos.

00:26:45.800 He's tired of fatties.

00:26:47.960 That's a guy who wants to exercise and flex the war muscles, which is great. 0.93

00:26:56.100 But why would you do it to a country like Venezuela, who last week offered Donald Trump and the Trump administration a deal?

00:27:08.080 Did you know that?

00:27:09.080 Maduro is probably shaking in his boots right now because Trump said, and these guys know Trump is serious, but Trump can also be petty sometimes, and it bothers me.

00:27:25.600 See, over the years, Maduro, and yeah, he's a communist and all this stuff.

00:27:31.360 We get it, but we negotiate and we talk to some of the scummiest, scariest people around the world.

00:27:42.280 Our leaders are in the same room with him.

00:27:45.340 I think the only reason Trump has it out for Maduro and wants to replace his government is because Maduro has just trashed Trump all the time.

00:27:57.720 You know, the way that Trump would trash other leaders, Maduro did it.

00:28:03.280 And anyway, last week, Maduro, hat in hand, came to the Trump administration.

00:28:10.920 Go look this up.

00:28:12.200 This happened.

00:28:13.820 And I don't even think people in the administration allowed it to get to Trump, but they claim they did.

00:28:18.680 They claim they did, but Maduro basically said, now, I didn't see the agreement because, as I said, President Trump has not returned my calls in 11 years.

00:28:29.340 But in the agreement, it basically said, Maduro said to Trump, if you do not remove this administration,

00:28:38.260 we will be more aggressive with the drug, stopping the drugs, but more importantly, Mr. President of America,

00:28:48.020 because we're in your hemisphere and Venezuela is a big deal and we're a big energy producer,

00:28:54.760 we will give you a cut of all our gold, all our minerals, and all our oil, and we will withdraw from China and Russia. 0.90

00:29:10.320 This is how badly Maduro wants to stay in power in Venezuela.

00:29:17.260 Now, isn't it great?

00:29:20.320 You just had to blow up five or six boats and he's calling you saying, okay, okay, look, here, take this.

00:29:28.780 You can set up mines here.

00:29:30.320 He even said, he even said in the agreement, he said, Americans can enter our country and partner with our companies that are extracting minerals

00:29:44.620 and then we can set up a situation where you're getting minerals.

00:29:49.180 And so it's an amazing deal when you think about it.

00:29:52.680 Now, I'm not saying Maduro is a great person or he's an amazing person, but that isn't the reality of it.

00:29:59.060 The reality is all over the world, there's people in charge of countries that would kill you for a sandwich.

00:30:07.060 And if you can contain them and neutralize their ability to hurt America because we're America and America's first,

00:30:20.280 not to be selfish, but if we can muscle in without having to kill anybody and get a guy to say,

00:30:29.120 all right, I'll stop doing that stuff with China and Russia.

00:30:32.640 Because China and Russia, they've had their eyes on South America and all, well, all over the world. 0.91

00:30:39.080 But Venezuela is big because it's a straight shot to America.

00:30:42.900 And for enemy reasons, for threat reasons, but it's also a straight shot to America, either by land, I'm sorry, by air or sea, excuse me, to benefit our country.

00:30:57.160 And in the process, Maduro would probably end up making things better for his people because, let's face it, things are kind of sucky there now, right?

00:31:08.180 But this is something that no one covered.

00:31:10.780 And I'm so disappointed that nobody covered it.

00:31:13.860 And this is what bothers me because I look at Trump's behavior in the Middle East, his behavior in Ukraine.

00:31:20.920 Remember, he was going to take care of that in one day.

00:31:22.880 Now, I'm not that foolish to think he can take care of it in one day, but I don't like the direction it's going now.

00:31:29.880 I don't like the fact that President Donald Trump signed off on hitting valuable targets deep in Russia.

00:31:37.260 What are you trying to do, Mr. President?

00:31:41.360 Russia is a nuclear power.

00:31:43.520 China is a nuclear power.

00:31:46.380 Venezuela, you should have just taken that deal.

00:31:48.900 And it wasn't a deal that hurt us.

00:31:52.520 The whole deal benefited the United States because Maduro, who also has an ego, he doesn't want to get run out.

00:32:00.660 But apparently, President Trump likes the person running against Maduro.

00:32:10.100 So that's the update that you haven't heard.

00:32:12.160 So maybe you could call your congressman or senator and ask about it.

00:32:16.720 And we'll be right back in the Stone Zone.

00:32:18.840 The number is 800-848-9222.

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00:32:41.760 And we were just talking about Venezuela.

00:32:43.560 And I'm disappointed that President Trump didn't make more of an effort to kind of ignore the ramblings of Maduro

00:32:56.440 and just basically say and take that offer that was made last week to the president to take resources and everything else.

00:33:09.840 We wouldn't even have to go in and take stuff in our own hemisphere.

00:33:15.920 He's willing to give it.

00:33:17.640 He's willing to say, okay, okay.

00:33:19.780 I mean, that's how you kill two birds with one stone.

00:33:22.700 To me, that's what diplomacy is. 0.98

00:33:25.840 I don't think diplomacy is ever, hey, you give me your stuff or I'm going to blow your head off.

00:33:32.320 I don't think that's diplomacy.

00:33:33.900 I think diplomacy is we could work together and we can make it very comfortable for you and us.

00:33:41.160 And we don't have to fight.

00:33:43.000 And it'll be better for your people.

00:33:44.800 It'll be better for our people.

00:33:46.820 Or you can keep going in this direction and things will keep blowing up.

00:33:52.540 But why would you want to do that?

00:33:54.200 So, let's grab a call here before we wrap up the show.

00:33:58.360 Gail in Pennsylvania.

00:33:59.920 Gail, you're in the Stone Zone.

00:34:01.880 Welcome.

00:34:02.620 Hi.

00:34:03.680 Good evening.

00:34:04.940 Hello.

00:34:05.380 I'm great.

00:34:06.100 I'm doing great.

00:34:06.920 Can you hear me?

00:34:07.760 Yep.

00:34:08.020 I actually am glad to see that we've been blasting the narco-terrorist Venezuelan state ships. 0.99

00:34:16.120 Agreed.

00:34:16.540 And if we go inside, I also am fine. 0.98

00:34:20.040 They're depopulating their criminals insane.

00:34:24.600 A lot of their population, the welfare types to us.

00:34:27.940 But let me just say this.

00:34:30.300 President Trump, the dealmaker, may still carry on with the negotiation.

00:34:35.200 But I don't care if he blasts them.

00:34:38.440 Well, I'm glad you feel like that, Gail.

00:34:40.740 Obviously, you're not calling from Venezuela.

00:34:42.600 No, but he's depopulated a lot of his country already.

00:34:49.160 And he has cartels running him, and they actually support our Democrat socialist candidates.

00:34:59.040 Well, this is part of the negotiation.

00:35:00.980 This is what you do.

00:35:02.120 That's how you do.

00:35:02.900 You go in and you say, here's how it's going to be.

00:35:04.580 If you want to keep running this country, Maduro, then you will – and Maduro made the first – he made the first overtures with that.

00:35:14.320 But the fact that – I guess what bothered me most, Gail, is that no one really covered it because everybody's afraid to question or challenge or go against the current philosophy or policies of the administration.

00:35:29.780 But I think that – I don't even think we should be messing with Venezuela and risking any type of military interaction with them because we've got so much on our plate.

00:35:40.200 We've already proven if you get near our shoreline with drugs, you're dead.

00:35:45.660 And Trump delivered.

00:35:47.100 And that sent a message to the whole world.

00:35:49.120 I think every drug dealer that wants to get near our shores is now thinking, I'm going to be on a laser scope in a minute.

00:35:57.140 So that's great.

00:35:58.020 So now he has an opportunity to maybe get Maduro to be less of a dictator.

00:36:03.900 What do you think?

00:36:05.640 He really wants to continue with the negotiation.

00:36:09.120 I wouldn't be surprised.

00:36:10.340 However, I'm just saying I'm fine with blasting him.

00:36:13.720 And I don't think it's starting a military –

00:36:16.780 When you say blasting him, are you saying you're fine with Trump assassinating Maduro?

00:36:21.440 Not necessarily assassinating him, but going to any of the distribution spots, et cetera, for the cartels that actually run Maduro, I'm fine with.

00:36:32.900 Right.

00:36:33.980 You do have to prove that, though.

00:36:36.420 And I don't think it would cause any long-term military excursion because they're – as you acknowledge, they're like a nothing.

00:36:43.320 Well, I don't know if they're like a nothing, but they certainly are in a position now where they're vulnerable and we're in a position of strength.

00:36:52.760 I mean, we have not been in a position of strength like this in a long time, and I just don't want to abuse it.

00:36:59.380 But, Gail, I'm so glad you called.

00:37:00.720 I appreciate your input.

00:37:02.260 Thanks for calling The Roger Stone Show.

00:37:04.740 Thank you for listening, folks.

00:37:06.300 Have a wonderful Friday night, a great weekend.

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