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00:00:40.640 Remember when Richard Nixon, it was learned, had an enemies list?

00:00:44.340 It came out in the televised Watergate Senate hearings,

00:00:48.720 which America was glued to across the three existing television networks at that time.

00:00:56.220 The left went completely insane over this idea.

00:01:00.000 There really was no list.

00:01:01.420 This was basically a contrivance of John Dean, who was trying to flip from being a perp to being a faux whistleblower.

00:01:08.860 There's no evidence that Nixon used the IRS or any other government agency against private citizens.

00:01:15.640 But you don't see the same level of outrage over the fact that it has now been fully revealed that the Biden administration's Justice Department had an operation called Arctic Frost in which 800 people, at least, were targeted just because of who they were.

00:01:33.420 Not what they did, but who they were and their political beliefs.

00:01:36.640 Yes, not surprisingly, yours truly was on their hit list, which was released today.

00:01:42.800 Oh, I'm proud to be the company in New York City, Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Congressman Scott Perry, General Michael Flynn, the current White House personnel director, Dan Scavino, as well as U.S. pardon attorney Ed Martin.

00:01:56.420 But this list also includes media organizations, alternative media organizations.

00:02:02.240 It includes the Republican Association of Attorney Generals, as if this was some kind of subversive group.

00:02:08.980 And this is, as we're now told, this was specifically contained to go to FBI field office across the country, and that's where they were going to begin these surveillances.

00:02:21.860 So this was a giant spy ring on American citizens, and they would look for anything.

00:02:28.020 Now, this comes in addition to the phone records that were seized from Arctic Frost that showed that U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, not my favorite Republican, Senator Bill Haggerty, a great senator, Senator Josh Hawley, another great senator, Dan Sullivan, who I like, Tommy Tuberville, Coach Tuberville, a real principal conservative and conscious of the Senate, Ron Johnson,

00:02:56.240 who I think is also great, who I think is also great, Cynthia Loomis, Marsha Blackburn, and I'm unfamiliar with Senator Mike Kelly.

00:03:03.380 But all of these U.S. senators were being surveilled, an elected official.

00:03:08.160 This is a violation of the Separations Act, where the executive branch cannot have the executive, pardon me, the legislative branch cannot have the executive branch spying on them.

00:03:19.020 This very quickly morphed into an unconstitutional dragnet, which gave the Deep State, the Justice Department under Merrick Garland and our intelligence agencies, a roadmap using the War on Terror Authority, essentially, to systematically violate the Fourth Amendment by prime Republican groups, conservatives, and other individuals.

00:03:44.940 That's what this was.

00:03:45.940 That's what this was.

00:03:46.680 It was a setup.

00:03:49.360 And Jack Smith's coordination between his special counsel's office with state prosecutors in New York, both Alvin Bragg and Letitia James, his coordination of the actions against Trump in Georgia with Fonnie Willis, his coordinations for the actions in Arizona and Nevada,

00:04:11.540 and all coordinated from one attorney general and the Biden administration.

00:04:18.300 This is a game changer, if you ask me, because it demonstrates that no Republican is safe for their overreach.

00:04:26.380 These are people who right now are whining at the fact that Donald Trump and his administration want to prosecute New York Attorney General Letitia James for mortgage fraud and bank fraud, and perhaps more.

00:04:39.360 The fact that they wanted to hold Adam Schiff, who's claimed that he has two principal legal residences, and he's gotten tax advantages, a lower mortgage rate, and a lower insurance rate because of that falsehood.

00:04:53.760 It's even, I think, a legitimate question whether if he's a full-time legal resident of Maryland, he's even eligible to be a member of Congress from California.

00:05:01.420 But no one in the California government is going to bring that action.

00:05:05.440 And the fact that Trump wants to hold the people who orchestrated the greatest single dirty trick in American history, the greatest single abuse of power in which they weaponized the Justice Department and the intelligence agencies utilizing what they completely knew was fraudulent evidence.

00:05:29.440 The Steele dossier and the false claim that Russian intelligence had conducted an online hack of the Democrat National Committee, for which there is still no evidence whatsoever.

00:05:44.140 And the Democrats never let the FBI inspect their servers.

00:05:49.480 They relied entirely on a third-party IT firm called CrowdStrike.

00:05:54.440 The judge refused to give the CrowdStrike report on this alleged hack to my defense attorneys in my trial.

00:06:01.660 But ultimately, Sean Henry, the head honcho at CrowdStrike, was forced to admit before the House Intelligence Committee that his report included no proof whatsoever of a Russian hack of the DNC.

00:06:15.360 So the question is whether any of these people are going to be held accountable.

00:06:20.080 It's not about revenge and retaliation.

00:06:24.540 It's about accountability and justice.

00:06:27.160 Arctic Frost is the smoking gun, in my view, that demonstrates how the Democrats and the deep states are knolling at war with the Constitution and the American people.

00:06:36.480 The Biden administration appointment with Jack Smith to begin with.

00:06:39.840 And the record that we now see of overreach is unprecedented.

00:06:43.580 This is a stretch beyond anything I've ever seen because it was extra constitutional, it was extra legal, not to mention the numerous ethical violations.

00:06:56.600 The House wants Jack Smith to come and testify and explain himself, and he says he will only do so if he's given full immunity.

00:07:03.740 What does that tell you?

00:07:06.060 I mean, this is not a trap.

00:07:08.320 He just has to come and answer questions.

00:07:10.560 So unfortunately, their efforts to put Donald Trump behind bars is the only way they were ever going to stop him and stop his miraculous political comeback.

00:07:20.120 And that was killing him.

00:07:21.340 And they tried that as well, as we know.

00:07:23.940 And by the grace of God, his life was spared to bring America's golden age forward.

00:07:30.780 And you can see it's like he's turning around a battleship.

00:07:34.600 It's slow, but it's steady.

00:07:36.840 And look, when he said he was going to insist on more advantageous tariff deals with our trading partners, the people on Wall Street said the stock market will crash.

00:07:48.900 Unemployment will skyrocket out of control.

00:07:54.320 And none of those things have happened.

00:07:56.060 And for the first month, first time in 15 years, last June, we actually had a surplus in this country, meaning we brought in more money than we paid out.

00:08:07.840 And you see new respect for America around the world.

00:08:10.800 Plus, Donald Trump has gone on a peace mission, solving eight, nine international wars or disputes between, say, India and Pakistan.

00:08:23.060 We've been through the list so many times.

00:08:24.640 And I still believe that he will before this is before we get to the midterms.

00:08:31.120 Hopefully, I'd love to see it tomorrow and the war between Russia and Ukraine. 0.87

00:08:36.300 But the NATO nations claim that this is about Vladimir Putin's desire to gobble up Ukraine.

00:08:45.500 I'm missing the boat.

00:08:46.760 The point, of course, is that when the Germans agreed to, pardon me, the Russians agreed to the reunification of East and West Germany,

00:08:54.820 we agreed in two different agreements, the Budapest Memorandum and the Minsk Accords, that we would not push Ukraine into NATO,

00:09:04.800 which is really defined as having NATO missiles paid for by you and I, the taxpayers of this country, appointed at Russia.

00:09:12.340 It's not really different than when Nikita Khrushchev put missiles in Cuba in 1962.

00:09:18.720 Jack Kennedy did not like that much, neither did the American people.

00:09:22.200 There are multiple reports that the silos already built to just drop these missiles in, relying there on the reporting of Max Blumenthal,

00:09:32.440 whose politics are, shall we say the least, not mine.

00:09:34.940 So, the true purpose of this war, the true causes of it, have to be understood.

00:09:41.820 Now, there are disputes over the Donbass, where, as I understand it, they had a plebiscite that had a 90% turnout,

00:09:49.580 and 90% of the people wanted to return to Russia because that was the language they spoke.

00:09:53.940 Joe Biden blurted out early before the war started that he was willing to give the Russians the Donbass in order to avert a war.

00:10:01.480 But I don't know where this stands.

00:10:07.160 I do know that Donald Trump is a master negotiator.

00:10:09.420 It looks to me like he gets one side where he wants them,

00:10:13.120 and then when he goes out to get the other side, by the time he returns, the first party has folded on him.

00:10:20.540 So, he's got to get Zelensky and Putin on one sheet of music.

00:10:25.660 It's turning out to be more difficult.

00:10:27.260 But I don't know anybody better to do it than the world's greatest dealmaker, the girl's greatest negotiator.

00:10:33.460 If you can survive the world of Manhattan real estate, believe me, after that, Putin's a walk in the park.

00:10:41.560 So, I think that, yes, I think he's already earned the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:10:46.500 I think it is a tragedy that they have not given it to him.

00:10:51.860 I do think that the woman who heads the Venezuelan opposition, Machado, should do the right thing.

00:10:59.080 She should accept it.

00:11:00.340 She should turn around and give it to President Donald J. Trump because I believe he has earned it.

00:11:05.800 Meanwhile, in an interesting story, New York City mayoral candidate, Democrat Zoran the Ayatollah Mamdami,

00:11:14.600 has received a criminal referral to the Department of Justice for alleged campaign finance violations.

00:11:20.760 A watchdog group, the Coolidge-Reagan Foundation, filed a referral because of Mamdami's apparent habit of receiving illegal donations from foreigners.

00:11:29.780 A review from Fox News discovered that Mamdami received $13,000 in contributions for 170 donors living outside of the United States.

00:11:39.800 Now, what we don't know is whether he took those donations and submitted them into New York City's 8-to-1 campaign finance matching program.

00:11:48.720 If he did, he turned that $13,000.

00:11:51.960 We don't know that all of those contributions in size were eligible.

00:11:55.780 But if they're $200 and under, they're matchable.

00:11:58.720 This is, of course, the crime that they indicted Eric Adams for.

00:12:03.580 This is exactly what he did.

00:12:05.200 He took $100,000 from Turkish interests.

00:12:08.520 He laundered it to people who lived in New York City.

00:12:12.660 They had them donate.

00:12:14.000 And then he submitted those donation records for the 8-to-1 match.

00:12:18.980 So it has to be examined to see whether Mamdami here has done the exact same thing.

00:12:23.560 And the Coolidge Regulatory Foundation said these are not isolated incidents or clerical errors.

00:12:30.520 This was a sustained pattern of foreign money flowing into a New York City mayoral race, which is a clear violation of both federal law and New York City campaign finance rules.

00:12:39.360 Mamdami's campaign was on notice for months that it was accepting illegal foreign congregations.

00:12:43.540 And they did nothing to stop it.

00:12:45.460 Congressman Andy Ogles has led the charge.

00:12:48.400 He's a good man to deport Mamdami due to his association with subversive anti-American and communist political groups. 0.99

00:12:56.360 Yes, there is a law that says if you associate with such groups, you can be deported.

00:13:01.140 There's also substantial evidence that Mamdami was not completely honest or forthcoming on his initial immigration papers.

00:13:08.460 There will be yet another grounds to deport him.

00:13:11.920 I doubt that that will happen at this juncture.

00:13:15.180 The place to stop him if he was going to be stopped was probably in the Democrat primary.

00:13:18.980 People have to recognize the demographic changes in New York City.

00:13:23.640 A city that was once dominated by Catholics is now only about 26% Catholic.

00:13:29.240 But you have about the same, you have about 27, probably about 31% of the city is white.

00:13:39.760 The Hispanic population has expanded to about 27.

00:13:44.060 So this is demographically a very different place.

00:13:46.480 The Republican Party was in a much stronger position when Rudy Giuliani was elected.

00:13:53.100 So the mayor's race is going to be very interesting.

00:13:55.780 I don't think these stories, unfortunately, will impact the result because I think Mamdami is benefiting from the hope and change thing.

00:14:03.720 Younger voters like his is, I'm an outsider, challenging a broken system message.

00:14:08.780 They're not focusing on his defunding of the police or raising taxes or freeing criminals.

00:14:14.880 They're not focusing on any of that.

00:14:17.360 I'm Roger Stone.

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00:14:51.140 Welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:14:53.820 Well, America First Legal, that's the organization founded by Stephen Miller, who left to join the president's White House staff as deputy chief of staff,

00:15:03.060 where he's doing an outstanding job on a number of domestic issues.

00:15:06.900 They launched an investigation into the city of Portland, only to find the extent of the collusion going on between local law enforcement and Antifa domestic terrorists

00:15:17.640 and other left-wing extremist groups involved in the subversive, coordinated, violent protests and attacks on ICE officers.

00:15:25.340 They announced in a press release that they were requesting records to uncover how the city of Portland enabled lawlessness by assisting anti-ICE groups in acquiring office space.

00:15:36.780 This continues AFL's investigation.

00:15:39.280 The city of Portland, which previously uncovered information showing the city of Portland's explicit use of race as a central component of the city's policing practices to achieve equitable outcomes.

00:15:50.340 This is not really surprising.

00:15:55.140 In Chicago, you've seen a situation in Chicago, the man who would be president, and Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, who last time looked at a 6% approval rating,

00:16:10.880 basically have ordered the Chicago police not to come to the rescue of ICE agents who are under violent attack and potentially their deaths being attacked by these violent mobs.

00:16:24.380 Lawyers I've talked to tell me that Pritzker and Johnson may yet be personably liable should any of those ICE officers be killed or injured.

00:16:33.640 That will give you some idea of the extent to which these radical left Democrats will go to try to corral the progressive left.

00:16:42.340 When Donald Trump moved the National Guard into D.C., every single person I know in D.C., black and white, was happy and relieved that their kids could now play in the front yard without fear that some gangbanger would shoot them in the head.

00:16:57.500 And you would see this in Chicago.

00:17:00.600 Chicago is the murder capital of the world.

00:17:05.500 J.B. Pritzker just tries to lie.

00:17:07.600 He goes on TV and he just lies about that.

00:17:09.940 When he's confronted by Brett Baier, who has his statistics up on the screen, he just says, no, no, that's incorrect.

00:17:16.820 So it is abundantly clear that they will not stand in the way of these violent thugs who I think are on the brink of rebellion around the country because they tried to essentially destroy Trump with lawfare.

00:17:34.180 Then they tried to kill him and he won anyway, and he is pursuing to keep his promises in the election that is making them apoplectic.

00:17:41.900 This is the Stone Zone.

00:17:43.520 I'm Roger Stone.

00:17:44.660 And well, we'll be right back with more.

00:17:48.820 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:17:55.420 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.

00:17:58.840 Let's dive into the deep end.

00:18:01.060 And so a breaking story, the director of national counterterrorism, a decorated combat veteran, Joe Kent, is looking into the FBI's investigation of the assassination of my friend, Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA.

00:18:18.880 The FBI has said the assassination was committed by a lone nut, Tyler Robinson, essentially an open and shut case.

00:18:26.660 Kent wants to double check this evidently with his own inquiry being specifically about whether any foreign or domestic terror groups were tied to the murder.

00:18:36.060 Now, I think Kent is correct for giving this case a closer examination.

00:18:41.820 It is interesting to me that the FBI has opened and closed their case so quickly.

00:18:46.900 Seen this before, J. Edgar Hoover took exactly seven days to conclude that Lee Harvey Oswald, a lone nut, had shot JFK three times from the back.

00:18:58.000 Case closed.

00:18:59.260 And he had been to Russia and came back. 0.99

00:19:01.300 So he's a crazy Russian. 1.00

00:19:02.920 It took them seven days. 0.72

00:19:04.060 As we now know, thanks to the hard work of many in the JFK researcher community and those who challenged the narrative of the Warren Commission, but particularly to the dogged work of Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna, who heads the subcommittee of oversight looking into the Kennedy assassination.

00:19:24.320 It is interesting to me that there's a bunch of bizarre abnormalities that lead me to doubt the FBI's official story.

00:19:36.520 The FBI conspicuously fails to lock down the airspace, providing the Provo Airport after the assassination, allowing a getaway to take place.

00:19:45.260 Although examination of that aircraft seems to be benign.

00:19:48.580 Yet George Zinn, a leftist provocateur in the audience, causes a diversion, insisting that he's a shooter, he's detained, but that eats up time, giving the rooftop shooter cover to perform the successful getaway, if their narrative that he was shot from a rooftop is correct.

00:20:07.360 Days later, Zinn was arrested and hit with possession of media depicting child abuse. 0.56

00:20:12.220 That's sick.

00:20:12.860 The killer also reportedly took apart the rifle used to kill Kirk on the roof, then reassembled it, then dropped it in the woods to make a daring getaway, only to confess to his parents, and then change back into the clothes he was seen in publicly so he could be more easily identified.

00:20:30.720 None of this makes sense to me.

00:20:32.720 No mention yet of the appearance of a magic bullet, not seen since the JFK assassination, that did not leave an exit wound in Kirk.

00:20:40.720 That does seem suspicious to me.

00:20:42.760 People who know far more about firearms, and so a doctor I had on, who was one of the country's foremost experts on gunshot wounds, all concluded that given the caliber of the bullet and the alleged trajectory of the shot, there should have been an exit wound.

00:20:56.500 And then we're told that Charlie's bone was so strong and his torso was so tight that there was no exit wound.

00:21:03.920 That didn't sound credible to me.

00:21:07.900 Anybody who understands the weapon told me that the rudimentary knowledge of physics would tell you there should have been an exit wound.

00:21:16.080 So I think Joe Kent is doing the right thing.

00:21:18.380 By the way, Mr. Kent has not reached any conclusions or issued any report.

00:21:22.540 He is merely asking questions.

00:21:24.500 I'm just not in a hurry to accept the government's narrative on this.

00:21:31.260 I do think Kash Patel is a good man, and I'd like to believe that they are correct.

00:21:36.500 It does make sense that the killer was radicalized by the radical, violent trans movement. 0.93

00:21:43.220 There's some evidence that he was living with a guy who was trans.

00:21:47.000 Now, this could all have been, as you know, could have been concocted.

00:21:51.000 We just don't know.

00:21:52.700 Elon Musk, back in the news.

00:21:55.780 I love Elon Musk because when he bought Twitter and turned it back into X, a friend of mine told me, just go fill out a form and maybe they'll give you your page back.

00:22:05.440 I had almost a million followers on Twitter when I broke the community rule of being for Donald Trump.

00:22:11.460 And I broke the community rule of questioning the legitimacy of the Mueller investigation.

00:22:19.340 And that was it for me.

00:22:21.360 I violated their community standards, whatever those may be.

00:22:25.000 And a little to my, I was actually shocked when, after I filled out a form, I was restored to Twitter, now called X.

00:22:32.560 I'm there as Roger J. Stone Jr., Roger J. Stone Jr.

00:22:37.500 And, you know, but I only had 25,000 followers now.

00:22:42.540 I mean, many of the people following me may have been, certainly could have been bots.

00:22:47.620 But I've now kind of worked my way back up.

00:22:50.080 And that's where you can find out, you know, what I think and what I'm doing.

00:22:54.780 And I'm grateful to have it.

00:22:56.160 But I remain banned for life on Facebook.

00:22:58.220 I remain banned for life on Instagram.

00:23:01.200 I had a new profile on Instagram that I set up only about a month ago.

00:23:07.380 And it went very quickly from about 537 people to more than 15, perhaps 18,000.

00:23:14.080 And, of course, then Instagram shut me down, saying that I violated their community standards and that this was my second strike.

00:23:22.480 I said, I never got any notification of a first strike.

00:23:26.380 By the way, I was very judicious about what I posted there.

00:23:28.940 It was not some of my edgier material, if you know what I mean.

00:23:33.480 And they still banned me nonetheless.

00:23:37.160 They said that they banned me because my posts were inauthentic.

00:23:42.180 And then it turned out that I found online that they claimed I was dead and that I died last November, which, of course, I'm obviously not dead.

00:23:50.060 So that was their excuse for shutting me down.

00:23:53.980 Couldn't possibly be the real Roger Stone.

00:23:55.760 He's deceased.

00:23:57.320 Yes, it's Kafkaesque.

00:23:59.540 It's very weird.

00:24:00.960 Anyway, Elon Musk has now, it turns out, cost his company about a million dollars in electric vehicle sales because of his public advocacy for President Donald Trump,

00:24:10.400 free speech and conservative causes.

00:24:12.920 I think Elon's service to this country in running the Doge operation, which they uncovered, not millions, not billions, but trillions,

00:24:22.180 trillions of dollars of waste, fraud and corruption in the U.S. government spending.

00:24:27.860 That's our tax money, folks.

00:24:29.440 That's our money.

00:24:30.180 And there's no question that there needs to be a series of rescission packages to do away with huge swaths of that spending.

00:24:39.000 There's also Elon who helped uncover the abuses at USAID.

00:24:44.280 USAID was actually not even ever formed by the Congress.

00:24:48.700 It was formed by executive order by President John F. Kennedy.

00:24:53.160 It was originally a vehicle to fund Latin and Central American countries who were fighting communism.

00:25:01.020 It had a legitimate purpose, but it spun out of control to become the funding mechanism for all of these radical nonprofit organizations that were deeply involved in American politics,

00:25:14.260 including the efforts to take Donald Trump down, the January 6th fraud, the last two elections, the impeachment nonsense.

00:25:24.780 So we were essentially being attacked with our own tax dollars.

00:25:29.440 The National Bureau of Economic Research estimates that Tesla sales under Elon Musk would have been 67 to 83 percent higher,

00:25:37.420 meaning up to 1.26 million more electric vehicles over the period between October 2022 and April 2025.

00:25:46.220 So this is roughly from the time when Musk acquired Twitter and turned it into X and when he released all of the documentation that proved that our intelligence agencies

00:25:58.200 and others in the federal government were working hand in glove with executives at Twitter to ban and cancel you if you didn't agree with their dogma.

00:26:09.200 If you questioned the outcome of the 2020 election or if you questioned the Russian collusion hoax

00:26:15.380 or if you questioned whether Hunter Biden's laptop was really Russian disinformation

00:26:20.640 or if you questioned the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccination, you were marked for extinction.

00:26:27.320 That was an act of bravery that Musk not only bought X and bought Twitter and made it into something much better, X,

00:26:36.380 but that he released all that information because he essentially put a target on his back.

00:26:41.340 At least nine federal investigations by the Biden administration pop up against Elon Musk who did nothing wrong.

00:26:48.280 So Musk bought X despite the fact that it was probably didn't look like a very good economic bet in the beginning.

00:27:01.800 It just shows you what very few corporate capitalists are willing to do.

00:27:06.220 I think he's done a good job.

00:27:07.920 Is it perfect?

00:27:08.480 No, it is not perfect.

00:27:09.760 Now, we know that Musk and the president had their kind of public flame out where they both said awful things about each other in haste,

00:27:18.320 but Elon Musk has since apologized for that and the president has said warm things about Elon.

00:27:24.320 Elon talked about forming a new party, a new reform party, but I think that he spent some money on polling

00:27:32.340 and the polling showed that only would have split the conservative votes and let the progressive far left take control of America again.

00:27:38.820 That's not something that Elon Musk as a patriot would do.

00:27:44.000 So none of this, all of his hard work, spending his own money, setting up his own super PAC,

00:27:52.080 campaigning aggressively for Trump in key states, none of that should be ignored when you talk about Elon Musk and his impact on humanity.

00:28:01.440 I think his advocacy for Trump's reelection in 2024 and support for global free speech came at a tremendous personal and professional cost to him.

00:28:10.960 I think he's done an incredible job in his service to humanity, and he deserves to be applauded for that work.

00:28:19.840 Hopefully he's very, very involved in the 2026 midterms.

00:28:23.360 He's already made a good decision in not trying to form a new party.

00:28:27.800 He should, as Barry Goldwater said at the 1960 Republican Convention, conservatives, this is our traditional home.

00:28:34.520 Let's take over this party.

00:28:36.180 That's where the action is.

00:28:38.400 Meanwhile, independent New York City American Andrew Cuomo sounded the alarm about how radicalized the Democratic Party.

00:28:44.140 So if he sees it, that means everyone sees it.

00:28:46.760 And he does understand that Zoran Mamdami will destroy the country if he is not stopped. 0.55

00:28:55.440 But the real problem here is Andrew Cuomo's net unfavorable rating is so high, this race has very few undecideds and great volatility.

00:29:05.680 So it is not really within the realm of possibility.

00:29:13.400 This idea that if Sliwa dropped out, that all of his votes would go to Cuomo, or if Cuomo dropped out, all of his votes would go to Sliwa.

00:29:21.640 It does not work that way.

00:29:23.040 No polling shows it works that way.

00:29:24.780 And I think that even were that to happen, which I predict that nobody's going to drop out after Mayor Adams, Mayor Adams endorsed Andrew Cuomo, which got no bump in the polls for Andrew Cuomo.

00:29:37.980 But then Mayor Adams was running at about 11% when he dropped out of the race.

00:29:46.060 Cuomo's idea, he the other day says, the truth is, there's a quiet civil war going on in the Democratic Party right now.

00:29:51.880 You have an extreme left, radical left, Bernie Sanders, AOC, Mamdami, is just the banner carrier for that movement versus mainstream moderate Democrats. 0.50

00:30:00.260 Andrew, you're dreaming those mainstream moderate Democrats don't exist anymore.

00:30:04.700 That party that you are the leader of is over.

00:30:09.100 Your party is now run by AOC and Jasmine Crockett and that tired old windbag Bernie Sanders. 0.92

00:30:15.740 And you lost the Democrat primary where you spent heavily by a hefty margin.

00:30:21.880 This was not even a close race.

00:30:24.180 So you have nurtured the left wing of the Democrat Party.

00:30:27.980 You're the guy who said as governor that if you believe in the right to bear arms or you don't support abortion, you need to leave New York State.

00:30:38.140 And now you want Republicans or conservatives or Trump supporters to vote for you?

00:30:42.660 I just don't think that that's going to happen.

00:30:44.520 And I think the cake is baked here.

00:30:49.280 But if you watch that last debate, I think the only thing I saw was Andrew Cuomo demonstrated his superior knowledge of government.

00:30:58.440 Mamdami demonstrated his superior knowledge of politics, meaning he I called him Mamdaji because he was all over the place dodging bullets.

00:31:06.760 But he managed to dodge most of them, trying to disassociate himself with his previous or real positions.

00:31:13.740 And I think Curtis Sliwa demonstrated his superior knowledge of New York and the problems facing it.

00:31:19.660 It was it was actually much, much, much better debate than the first debate.

00:31:24.280 At the same time, I still think that this race is probably over. 0.89

00:31:29.940 It's amazing the national attention and coverage the race is getting, by the way.

00:31:34.680 When I talk to people in other states, they all want to talk about what's going on right there in the Big Apple.

00:31:41.520 People who don't understand the politics and the demographic changes in New York City.

00:31:47.760 I just find it very hard that the city is about to elect a mayor who shares the ideology of those who attack the World Trade Center just a few years ago.

00:31:58.840 I'm Roger Stone.

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00:32:21.920 You know, I used to like Cracker Barrel.

00:32:23.600 I mean, it was a good place to go for breakfast.

00:32:25.340 The basics, you know, some some fried eggs or scrambled eggs, some bacon, some sausage, some good toast.

00:32:32.360 And I could not believe that they virtually destroyed themselves.

00:32:36.960 This once beloved brand were pilloried nationwide for embracing wokeness that they have yet to recover from.

00:32:43.900 The woke CEO, a woman named Julie Fels Massino, decided to remove the mascot in their logo, who was a white man in overalls, replacing this familiar country logo with some kind of bland, generic, corporatized, AI-created nothingness.

00:33:03.680 The menu was changed.

00:33:05.700 The decor of the restaurants was removed.

00:33:08.280 So you lost that country store feel that was the whole point.

00:33:13.860 As a result, there was immense public anger.

00:33:17.540 They quickly attempted to reverse course.

00:33:19.960 But evidently, the markets are not buying it.

00:33:23.440 Cracker Barrel is down in the stock market, 32% throughout the year.

00:33:29.820 And the investors are calling for the CEO's ouster in order to restore faith in the company and the brand.

00:33:37.940 There's been reportedly an 8% drop in visits to the Cracker Barrel restaurants following their woke mistake.

00:33:45.540 I think it's going to take some time to rebuild Cracker Barrel to what it once was, which was to be a clean, comfortable place for a great breakfast, which is the only thing I used it for.

00:33:56.920 And that was when I was visiting friends in Jacksonville.

00:34:00.380 I think they have to begin by implementing accountability.

00:34:03.840 The CEO should be removed from her post. 0.62

00:34:06.040 I think that's a good idea.

00:34:07.560 She failed abysmally and spectacularly.

00:34:09.680 It's difficult to believe.

00:34:10.560 I mean, they turned Cracker Barrel into a late-night comedy punchline, an example of woke corporate malfeasance.

00:34:18.960 And the whole thing got attacked nationwide.

00:34:22.540 So no one's going to trust her with their investor dollars.

00:34:26.880 I think she should be held responsible and they had to try to remake themselves.

00:34:31.080 Meanwhile, we learned that because of Chuck Schumer's shutdown, the Democrats insisting that the government stay closed until Donald Trump and the Republicans agree to add $1.5 trillion to the budget, where the Republicans are saying, let's just continue the government at the current levels of funding and not increase spending for everything.

00:34:51.060 But that has now endangered essentially the food stamp program, the federal food stamp program, which is called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

00:35:03.340 See how much better that sounds than food stamp.

00:35:06.180 But it will cause a pause in benefits for 42 million Americans.

00:35:13.720 The total spending on food stamps under the SNAP program totaled about $106 billion over the previous 12-month period ending in September.

00:35:24.560 This is just this particular program.

00:35:27.540 It does not apply to other food subsidies for poor people, such as the WIC program and the preschool lunch program.

00:35:36.180 So even though the Democrats claim that Donald Trump and Republicans want to cut food programs from meaty, that is simply not the case.

00:35:42.400 During the year of 2025, SNAP was set to pay out $6 or $7 more billion in food aid than the $99.7 billion they spent in 2024.

00:35:55.020 So the Republicans did agree to increases in these programs.

00:35:59.300 Fundings for the programs have doubled since 2008, when the SNAP spending was about $52 billion.

00:36:07.040 Unfortunately, due to runaway inflation, these programs are needed.

00:36:11.520 Hopefully that will change as American trade policies bring jobs and industry and opportunity back to Americans.

00:36:17.960 But folks, the reason you're not getting your SNAP payments now is not because Donald Trump, because they're already funded.

00:36:23.900 We just turn it back on.

00:36:25.100 It's because the Democrats are insisting on $1.5 trillion more, most of it, or a good portion of it, for health care for people who are here in the country illegally.

00:36:39.240 All right, we're going to leave it there.

00:36:40.680 I'm Roger Stone.

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