The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 11-27-25


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Happy Thanksgiving! This episode is dedicated to the pilgrims who set sail for America on the Mayflower in 1650. The story of their harrowing journey across the Atlantic Ocean, and the sacrifices they made to reach their new home, America, is one of the most iconic stories in American history.

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00:01:38.360 Welcome into the Stone Zone and Happy Thanksgiving. 0.51
00:01:43.560 Because I am half Italian and half Hungarian, I'm Italian from the waist down,
00:01:49.780 We celebrate Thanksgiving a little differently in our home because I'm proud of my Italian-American heritage.
00:01:57.440 Our first course is a hearty bolognese sauce, which we refer to as Sunday gravy.
00:02:05.220 One-third pork, one-third veal, one-third beef.
00:02:09.840 San Marzano tomatoes.
00:02:12.160 San Marzano is not a brand.
00:02:13.760 It is a type, a style of tomato that is grown in a certain valley in Italy.
00:02:19.960 You can find it at Gristini's or any fine supermarket.
00:02:27.040 But be very careful on the label.
00:02:29.040 If it says San Marzano style tomatoes, well, then that's a fugazi. 0.67
00:02:35.940 You want real San Marzano tomatoes.
00:02:38.560 Again, not a brand.
00:02:39.900 Several different brands do import them.
00:02:42.140 But, of course, we also have the Italian sausage, the meatballs, the brazole.
00:02:48.660 We're going to be serving it over rigatoni.
00:02:51.820 That's our first course.
00:02:53.100 And then we move on to the traditional turkey stuffing, bread stuffing.
00:03:00.540 My mother used to make this great French stuffing, which was done with potatoes, beef, onions, and garlic. 0.62
00:03:09.860 Unfortunately, it's a recipe that I've lost and that my sisters are also unable to find.
00:03:15.600 But we're still looking for it.
00:03:17.100 Of course, we have the mashed potatoes, the turnips, the green peas, all of the traditional fixings.
00:03:27.000 It's all making my wife water. 1.00
00:03:29.260 But, well, I don't get any dinner until after the show.
00:03:33.000 Thanksgiving is really the holiday that made other American holidays possible.
00:03:38.740 As you see, if it's not for the pilgrims having courage, absolute faith in their cause and calling,
00:03:44.460 and the willingness to sacrifice and risk everything,
00:03:47.900 they never would have attempted to cross a vast ocean on the 94-foot Mayflower,
00:03:54.680 a ship of questionable seaworthiness to begin with.
00:03:57.920 The Thanksgiving holiday, which commemorates one part of the pilgrim story,
00:04:03.080 remains the favorite holiday for many Americans like myself,
00:04:07.100 and for good reasons, beyond just enjoying the upcoming feast.
00:04:11.800 With our country passing through troubled times,
00:04:14.700 it's worth revisiting the pilgrims' five significant achievements,
00:04:19.040 which created the seminal story of America,
00:04:21.960 and reveal the remarkable insight into who we are
00:04:27.060 and the qualities of character we need to overcome our present challenges.
00:04:33.080 You see, first of many of the settlers who came to America,
00:04:36.840 only the pilgrims were singularly motivated by a spiritual quest for religious freedom,
00:04:44.060 one that had its origin in the Protestant Reformation a century before.
00:04:48.720 William Bradford, the longest-serving governor of Plymouth Colony
00:04:53.560 and author of Of Plymouth Plantation,
00:04:57.460 which was written between 1630 and 1651,
00:05:01.920 repeatedly framed the pilgrims' voyage and settlement
00:05:05.420 in explicably biblical terms,
00:05:09.140 drawing direct parallels to the Israelites' exodus from Egypt to the Promised Land.
00:05:15.440 Thus, both American Christians and Jews 1.00
00:05:19.200 find profound meaning in the pilgrims' Thanksgiving story.
00:05:24.720 After a harrowing passage across the Atlantic,
00:05:27.960 one that included wild pitching and broadside batterings
00:05:31.380 by gale-force winds and ferocious seas
00:05:34.460 that caused the splitting of the ship's main beam,
00:05:38.080 the Mayflower was blown off course
00:05:40.220 from arriving at the territory assigned by the London-based sponsoring Virginia Company
00:05:47.080 to a territory that is now northern New Jersey.
00:05:52.380 Making landfall on the barren shores of Cape Cod
00:05:55.820 rather than the plan for New Jersey,
00:05:58.260 the pilgrims knew not where they were nor how to proceed.
00:06:01.940 So, they prayed to the Lord for help to find more suitable land
00:06:07.060 with fresh water and fertile soil
00:06:09.280 to establish a new and independent settlement.
00:06:14.000 Now, after a frightening voyage
00:06:16.540 and facing hunger from spoiled and depleted provisions
00:06:20.120 and anxious about settling outside the purview
00:06:23.180 of the Virginia Company's known chartered territory,
00:06:26.600 the secular Mayflower passengers were restless
00:06:30.120 and some of them were insolent.
00:06:32.500 And this is where the pilgrims accomplished
00:06:34.180 their second major achievement
00:06:36.080 that would shape the future of America.
00:06:39.660 Pilgrim leaders John Carver, William Bradford,
00:06:43.040 and William Brewster recognized
00:06:44.620 that Mayflower's passengers, diverse as they were,
00:06:48.800 needed to maintain unities
00:06:50.880 to survive in a potentially in-hospital environment.
00:06:54.360 So, off the Cape Cod coast,
00:06:56.920 they drafted a governing agreement
00:06:58.920 that would be acceptable both to their Christian brethren
00:07:02.380 and also to the secular crew members
00:07:05.220 and merchant adventurers
00:07:06.600 who made up about half of the 102 people
00:07:10.280 aboard the Mayflower.
00:07:11.620 That governing document, known as the Mayflower Compact,
00:07:16.420 provided for peace, security, equality,
00:07:20.220 and democratic decision-making for everyone
00:07:23.080 in their new anticipated settlement.
00:07:26.900 With every man aboard signing the Mayflower Compact,
00:07:30.760 the pilgrims established the foundation
00:07:32.360 for democratic self-government
00:07:34.640 based on the will of the people
00:07:36.300 for the first time in this hemisphere.
00:07:40.080 And so it was that the Mayflower Compact
00:07:42.680 laid the cornerstone for the U.S. Constitution,
00:07:45.500 which would be drafted and adopted
00:07:47.140 some 170 years later.
00:07:50.960 Although the pilgrims all survived
00:07:53.840 the squalid and cramped ship quarters
00:07:56.060 during their dangerous crossing of a vast ocean,
00:07:59.340 their fate changed once they found suitable land
00:08:02.260 for settlement,
00:08:02.820 which they called, initially, New Plymouth.
00:08:06.860 That was in December of 1620.
00:08:10.460 The first winter was frigid and devastating,
00:08:13.020 with illness-afflicting most and over half.
00:08:15.300 The pilgrims actually died,
00:08:17.680 including the four entire families.
00:08:20.500 But it could actually have been worse.
00:08:23.480 The fate of the pilgrim colonists
00:08:25.320 would surely not have been difficult
00:08:26.840 had they not settled where they did,
00:08:28.960 adjacent to friendly natives,
00:08:31.520 the Pocahontas Indians,
00:08:33.900 who were part of the Wampanoag tribe,
00:08:36.100 still in Massachusetts,
00:08:37.860 led by their chief, Massasoit.
00:08:40.500 And it seems providential
00:08:43.020 that there were two Indians
00:08:44.320 who could speak English
00:08:45.480 from prior interactions with the British.
00:08:48.260 They were Squanato and Samoset,
00:08:51.660 without who perhaps none of them
00:08:54.420 would have survived.
00:08:57.040 Squanto and his fellow native tribesmen
00:08:59.580 could teach the pilgrims' survival skills,
00:09:01.900 show them how to hunt, fish,
00:09:04.240 and plant various crops,
00:09:05.840 such as corn, squash,
00:09:07.740 and varieties of beans,
00:09:09.060 which were heretofore
00:09:11.080 completely unknown to the Englishmen.
00:09:13.780 Then there was the pilgrim's 0.88
00:09:15.240 third major achievement.
00:09:17.020 That was the pilgrim Wampanoag 0.93
00:09:19.280 peace treaty made possible
00:09:21.240 by Squanto, the Indian,
00:09:23.400 who played a crucial role
00:09:25.200 as translator in what was
00:09:26.480 the first successful negotiation
00:09:29.040 and maintenance of the peace.
00:09:31.640 The treaty was signed
00:09:33.420 on April 1st of 1621
00:09:35.840 by Massasoit
00:09:37.620 and leaders of the Plymouth Colony.
00:09:40.200 That treaty between Native Americans
00:09:42.160 and the settlers
00:09:42.940 would last more than 50 years,
00:09:45.220 longer than any peace treaty
00:09:47.380 between subsequent colonists
00:09:48.960 and Indian tribes
00:09:50.200 that inhabited other territories
00:09:51.980 that would only later
00:09:53.520 become part of the United States.
00:09:55.240 So despite learning
00:09:56.200 from the natives 1.00
00:09:57.380 how to plant,
00:09:58.320 cultivate,
00:09:58.860 and harvest new crops
00:09:59.960 in their first year,
00:10:01.140 the pilgrims complied
00:10:02.860 with their sponsoring
00:10:03.860 Virginia Company charter
00:10:05.260 that called for settlement farmland
00:10:07.460 to be owned
00:10:08.140 and worked communally
00:10:09.140 and for harvest
00:10:10.360 to be equally shared.
00:10:12.340 This socialist
00:10:13.600 common property approach
00:10:15.360 created disincentives
00:10:17.440 for some to work.
00:10:19.320 William Bradford
00:10:20.200 recorded in his memoirs
00:10:22.060 that while, quote,
00:10:23.460 slackers showed up late for work,
00:10:25.260 everybody was happy
00:10:26.660 to claim their fair share
00:10:28.900 and production
00:10:30.020 only therefore shrank.
00:10:32.400 Although no one is certain
00:10:33.760 of the exact date
00:10:34.800 of the first Thanksgiving,
00:10:36.440 we do know
00:10:37.340 it was a pilgrim initiative
00:10:38.880 celebrated in November of 1621
00:10:41.980 to give thanks to God
00:10:43.600 for their survival
00:10:44.520 and having lost so many
00:10:46.900 during the first winter in Plymouth
00:10:48.680 and for the first harvest,
00:10:51.040 meager though it was.
00:10:52.920 When Massasoit,
00:10:54.080 the Indian leader,
00:10:55.540 was invited to join the pilgrims,
00:10:57.000 it was assumed
00:10:57.440 he would not bring more guests
00:10:59.180 than the 50-odd
00:11:00.640 Mayflower survivor hosts,
00:11:02.720 but he arrived
00:11:03.420 with twice that number,
00:11:05.340 but they were also bringing food,
00:11:08.680 fowl, and game of all kinds,
00:11:10.520 including five deer
00:11:12.360 and, of course, turkeys.
00:11:14.420 There was more than enough
00:11:15.440 for everybody,
00:11:16.280 enabling the first
00:11:17.940 Thanksgiving celebration
00:11:19.140 to last three full days,
00:11:21.820 punctuated by Indian songs,
00:11:23.460 games, and dance,
00:11:25.120 pilgrim prayers,
00:11:26.040 and even a military-style parade
00:11:28.180 by Miles Standish.
00:11:30.920 The only thing missing
00:11:31.840 was the rigatoni bolognese.
00:11:35.340 The pilgrims' fourth major achievement
00:11:37.520 was the rejection of socialism
00:11:39.280 and the adoption
00:11:40.640 of private enterprise.
00:11:43.140 After the meager Thanksgiving harvest,
00:11:45.720 the second season
00:11:46.560 of collective farming
00:11:47.520 and distribution
00:11:48.740 proved equally disappointing.
00:11:50.440 You see, Governor Bradford
00:11:52.520 had seen enough
00:11:53.420 recording that the system
00:11:54.440 was found to breed
00:11:55.440 much confusion and discontent
00:11:57.640 and retard much employment 0.99
00:11:59.620 that would have been
00:12:00.360 of great benefit
00:12:01.560 and comfort to all.
00:12:03.480 So, before the 1623 season,
00:12:06.660 he scrapped socialism farming
00:12:08.740 and replaced it
00:12:09.540 with private ownership of land
00:12:11.140 for each of the families.
00:12:12.560 As a result of becoming
00:12:14.800 responsible for their own welfare
00:12:16.900 and gaining freedom
00:12:18.040 to choose what to grow
00:12:19.660 for consumption or trade,
00:12:21.680 the pilgrims' productivity
00:12:23.160 actually surged.
00:12:25.580 The fifth factor
00:12:26.400 distinguishing the pilgrims
00:12:27.580 was their model
00:12:28.460 relational behavior.
00:12:30.420 While tolerance enabled them
00:12:31.500 to keep relative harmony
00:12:32.620 within their diverse community,
00:12:34.640 they also looked outwardly
00:12:35.940 to serve and help others.
00:12:37.740 In the March of 1623,
00:12:38.560 it came to be known
00:12:40.840 that Massasoit
00:12:42.040 was on the brink of death
00:12:43.400 from an unknown illness.
00:12:45.260 Senior Pilgrim Elder
00:12:46.600 William Winslow
00:12:47.600 immediately set out on foot
00:12:48.880 for some 40 miles
00:12:50.400 to administer medicinal broth,
00:12:52.800 natural herbs,
00:12:53.660 and prayers
00:12:54.200 for the Indian leader.
00:12:56.460 Astonishingly,
00:12:57.180 upon making a full recovery
00:12:58.580 within three days,
00:13:00.320 Massasoit remarked,
00:13:02.520 Now I see the English
00:13:03.540 are my friends and love me,
00:13:04.920 and whilst I live,
00:13:06.100 I will never forget
00:13:07.060 this kindness
00:13:07.780 that they have shown me.
00:13:09.560 So in summary,
00:13:11.040 the pilgrims' five achievements
00:13:12.580 and the qualities of character
00:13:14.420 that make them exemplary
00:13:15.820 are needed now more
00:13:16.920 than ever today.
00:13:18.680 In addition to gratitude,
00:13:20.580 a contemporary Thanksgiving
00:13:21.840 makeover might include
00:13:23.480 rekindling a quest for adventure,
00:13:26.740 developing the faith
00:13:28.360 to hold on to a vision
00:13:29.820 of a promised land,
00:13:31.640 no matter what,
00:13:33.440 mustering the courage
00:13:34.460 to go against the crowd
00:13:35.720 and defend the truth,
00:13:37.720 being willing to endure hardship
00:13:39.440 and defer immediate gratification,
00:13:42.960 revitalizing respect for
00:13:44.880 and tolerance of people
00:13:46.160 of different beliefs,
00:13:48.860 and reviewing the disposition
00:13:50.920 to extend appreciation,
00:13:53.160 love, and assistance
00:13:54.520 at every appropriate opportunity.
00:13:58.440 I'm very thankful
00:14:00.300 this Thanksgiving
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00:14:11.020 she is four years
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00:14:14.280 Thank you, Jesus.
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00:14:18.420 because, of course,
00:14:19.160 I was targeted
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00:14:22.880 And thanks to my prayers,
00:14:25.120 my fervent prayers,
00:14:27.060 the Lord allowed
00:14:28.880 President Donald Trump
00:14:29.880 to see that I was a victim,
00:14:31.420 not the perpetrator
00:14:32.340 of a crime.
00:14:33.600 And that is why
00:14:34.460 I am free
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00:14:50.180 of America
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00:17:02.300 The Stone Zone.
00:17:04.380 Entertaining and informative.
00:17:06.540 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:17:09.460 Welcome back.
00:17:10.680 I really appreciate
00:17:11.540 those kind words
00:17:12.700 from Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:17:15.280 And I thank you
00:17:15.920 for spending
00:17:17.140 your Thanksgiving holiday
00:17:18.700 with us here
00:17:19.660 in the Stone Zone.
00:17:21.040 As we celebrate
00:17:22.640 the quintessential
00:17:23.480 American holiday,
00:17:24.440 let's go back through time
00:17:25.420 and examine how former presidents
00:17:26.920 have commemorated this day,
00:17:28.640 going back to our nation's founding.
00:17:31.540 President George Washington,
00:17:33.320 a man who could have been king
00:17:34.480 but decided instead
00:17:35.460 to be president
00:17:36.280 and limit his own power,
00:17:38.280 issued the first
00:17:39.100 National Thanksgiving
00:17:40.060 Proclamation in 1789,
00:17:42.780 marking the holiday
00:17:43.800 with solemn gratitude
00:17:45.200 and civic reflection.
00:17:47.300 He celebrated quietly
00:17:48.580 with family
00:17:49.480 and religious observance.
00:17:50.980 Then there was
00:17:51.400 President John Adams.
00:17:52.440 He continued issuing
00:17:54.240 proclamations,
00:17:55.340 treating Thanksgiving
00:17:56.440 as a day of prayer
00:17:57.460 and humility.
00:17:59.220 Celebrations, however,
00:18:00.260 continued to remain private
00:18:01.780 and Puritan-influenced.
00:18:04.320 Thomas Jefferson
00:18:05.700 refused to issue
00:18:06.580 Thanksgiving proclamations,
00:18:08.000 viewing them as
00:18:08.540 an unconstitutional
00:18:10.160 fusion of church
00:18:11.280 and state.
00:18:12.560 Celebrated privately,
00:18:13.720 reflected early debates
00:18:15.120 about the holidays' form.
00:18:17.420 Then there was
00:18:18.100 President James Madison.
00:18:19.900 He occasionally issued
00:18:21.180 Thanksgiving proclamations
00:18:22.460 during wartime,
00:18:23.620 but he viewed them
00:18:24.740 very cautiously.
00:18:25.720 His observance,
00:18:26.800 again, remained
00:18:27.740 understated,
00:18:29.320 but still religious.
00:18:31.640 James Monroe
00:18:32.700 did not ever formally
00:18:34.340 proclaim Thanksgiving.
00:18:35.840 The holidays were still,
00:18:37.120 at that point,
00:18:37.860 regional and largely
00:18:39.440 inconsistent.
00:18:40.500 Celebrations were mostly
00:18:42.200 private family gatherings.
00:18:44.520 John Quincy Adams
00:18:46.200 supported New England's
00:18:48.000 Thanksgiving customs,
00:18:48.880 but never issued
00:18:49.880 any formal
00:18:51.480 national proclamation.
00:18:52.860 His family's dinners
00:18:53.780 reflected the
00:18:55.220 traditional
00:18:56.000 New England fare.
00:18:58.340 Andrew Jackson,
00:18:59.480 one of my favorite
00:19:00.060 presidents,
00:19:00.600 took no federal action
00:19:01.640 on Thanksgiving,
00:19:02.920 but endured
00:19:03.620 large private feasts
00:19:05.380 typical of
00:19:06.620 Southern households.
00:19:07.680 The holidays were
00:19:08.400 still not standardized
00:19:10.140 nationally.
00:19:11.940 Then President
00:19:12.680 Martin Van Buren,
00:19:14.160 he didn't formalize
00:19:15.260 the holiday either,
00:19:16.380 but joined
00:19:17.220 regional celebrations
00:19:17.880 as they spread.
00:19:20.000 He marked the day
00:19:20.840 informally with his family.
00:19:23.140 William Henry Harrison
00:19:24.340 left no
00:19:24.980 Thanksgiving levacy
00:19:26.040 to speak of,
00:19:27.160 well, because he
00:19:27.980 just wasn't
00:19:28.660 president very long.
00:19:30.440 And then President
00:19:31.140 John Tyler
00:19:32.040 celebrated Thanksgiving
00:19:33.280 privately,
00:19:33.860 while some states
00:19:34.740 adopted it
00:19:35.500 unofficially.
00:19:37.100 President James K. Polk
00:19:39.160 observed Thanksgiving
00:19:40.240 as it grew
00:19:41.140 in northern states,
00:19:42.720 but still no
00:19:43.420 national proclamations.
00:19:44.780 His successor,
00:19:46.640 President Zachary
00:19:47.460 Taylor,
00:19:48.040 a military man,
00:19:49.460 was known for
00:19:50.180 military style,
00:19:51.040 simplicity,
00:19:51.640 and private
00:19:52.100 observance.
00:19:52.680 The company still
00:19:53.380 remained regional
00:19:54.180 during his presidency.
00:19:56.280 Then, of course,
00:19:57.080 there was
00:19:57.560 Millard Fillmore.
00:19:58.700 He supported
00:19:59.280 state-level
00:19:59.980 Thanksgiving
00:20:00.500 proclamations.
00:20:01.880 Family celebrations
00:20:02.660 aligned with rising
00:20:03.960 Victoria-area
00:20:05.240 domestic traditions.
00:20:07.680 Franklin Pierce,
00:20:08.600 our only bachelor
00:20:09.600 president,
00:20:10.100 also kept
00:20:10.660 Thanksgiving
00:20:11.220 largely private
00:20:12.160 and personal,
00:20:13.080 but he still
00:20:13.880 didn't push
00:20:14.520 for national
00:20:15.200 recognition.
00:20:16.300 When we come
00:20:16.740 back to the
00:20:17.240 Stone Zone,
00:20:17.780 we'll continue
00:20:18.400 with this rundown
00:20:19.320 of how American
00:20:20.640 presidents have
00:20:21.440 treated Thanksgiving,
00:20:22.800 which we celebrate
00:20:23.660 today.
00:20:25.020 If you're listening
00:20:25.840 to the Stone Zone,
00:20:26.660 and I'm Roger Stone,
00:20:27.920 stay with us.
00:20:28.720 We'll be right back.
00:20:33.740 The Stone Zone,
00:20:35.580 entertaining and
00:20:36.840 informative.
00:20:37.740 On the Red Apple
00:20:38.520 Podcast Network.
00:20:39.800 Welcome back
00:20:41.780 into the Stone Zone
00:20:43.080 as we continue
00:20:43.800 our rundown
00:20:44.780 of how American
00:20:46.020 presidents have
00:20:47.020 treated Thanksgiving.
00:20:49.580 We left off
00:20:50.560 with President
00:20:51.200 Franklin Pierce,
00:20:52.280 but he was followed
00:20:52.960 by President
00:20:53.560 James Buchanan.
00:20:55.280 He celebrated
00:20:56.120 modestly as the
00:20:57.120 northern states
00:20:57.800 expanded formal
00:20:58.860 recognition of the
00:21:00.340 holiday, but there 0.97
00:21:01.080 was still no
00:21:02.060 federal proclamation.
00:21:04.140 And then finally,
00:21:05.740 Abraham Lincoln
00:21:06.640 established Thanksgiving
00:21:08.280 as an annual national
00:21:10.100 holiday in 1863
00:21:11.740 to foster unity
00:21:13.480 in the country
00:21:14.240 during the Civil War.
00:21:15.980 This marked the day,
00:21:17.360 the day was marked,
00:21:19.020 I should say,
00:21:19.540 with reflection,
00:21:20.720 charity,
00:21:21.200 and public purpose.
00:21:23.740 Andrew Johnson,
00:21:25.220 who continued
00:21:26.320 Lincoln's national
00:21:27.240 tradition and framed
00:21:28.160 Thanksgiving as a
00:21:29.080 symbol of national
00:21:30.460 healing,
00:21:30.840 his proclamations
00:21:31.780 were cemented
00:21:33.380 its annual status.
00:21:35.120 He was followed
00:21:36.640 by General
00:21:37.740 Ulysses S. Grant,
00:21:39.460 who reinforced
00:21:40.140 Thanksgiving as a
00:21:41.400 stable national
00:21:42.700 observant,
00:21:43.680 once again celebrated
00:21:44.780 with formal dinners
00:21:45.780 and public messaging
00:21:47.280 on reconciliation
00:21:48.400 after the Civil War.
00:21:51.260 President
00:21:51.740 Ruthford B.
00:21:52.740 Hayes held
00:21:53.480 family-centered
00:21:54.220 celebrations
00:21:54.860 and emphasized
00:21:56.120 gratitude
00:21:56.940 with Reconstruction.
00:21:59.020 He helped
00:21:59.720 normalize
00:22:00.640 the holiday
00:22:01.540 nationally,
00:22:02.640 finally,
00:22:03.000 thanks to Lincoln,
00:22:04.260 a federal holiday.
00:22:06.180 James Garfield
00:22:07.100 had a short
00:22:08.060 presidency,
00:22:08.900 but issued
00:22:09.720 a proclamation
00:22:11.020 highlighting peace
00:22:11.980 and prosperity,
00:22:13.340 continuing the new
00:22:14.360 national custom
00:22:15.260 of Thanksgiving.
00:22:16.960 It was followed
00:22:17.700 by President
00:22:18.900 Chester A.
00:22:20.000 Arthur,
00:22:20.560 who had been
00:22:21.100 the receiver
00:22:23.480 of the Port
00:22:24.040 of New York,
00:22:24.840 rising to the
00:22:26.820 presidency
00:22:27.700 only after the
00:22:28.600 assassination
00:22:29.040 of James Garfield.
00:22:30.820 He issued
00:22:31.340 a Thanksgiving
00:22:31.980 proclamation-encouraging
00:22:33.280 charity.
00:22:34.440 He celebrated
00:22:35.200 with an elegant
00:22:36.140 White House dinner
00:22:37.020 that were more
00:22:38.280 typical of the
00:22:39.200 Gilded Age.
00:22:41.060 Grover Cleveland,
00:22:42.360 the only president
00:22:43.520 to serve a term,
00:22:45.820 lose a disputed
00:22:46.980 re-election,
00:22:47.660 and return as president,
00:22:49.600 other than
00:22:50.060 Donald J.
00:22:50.720 Trump,
00:22:51.480 promoted the holidays
00:22:52.440 as a time for
00:22:53.540 national gratitude
00:22:54.420 and family.
00:22:55.840 His two
00:22:56.520 non-consecutive terms
00:22:58.040 helped solidify
00:22:59.060 Thanksgiving
00:22:59.660 cultural place
00:23:01.100 in our history,
00:23:02.480 followed by
00:23:03.020 President Benjamin
00:23:03.980 Harrison,
00:23:04.480 who encouraged
00:23:05.480 Americans to
00:23:06.160 consider the
00:23:06.660 less fortunate,
00:23:08.100 reflecting the
00:23:09.320 rising social
00:23:10.820 gospel themes.
00:23:12.400 He observed
00:23:12.880 Thanksgiving again
00:23:14.140 with a formal
00:23:15.380 White House dinner,
00:23:17.320 followed by
00:23:18.360 President William
00:23:19.320 McKinley,
00:23:19.980 who celebrated
00:23:20.700 with patriotic
00:23:21.800 overtones during
00:23:22.680 America's imperial 0.63
00:23:24.100 area.
00:23:25.620 The Thanksgiving
00:23:26.440 proclamation stressed
00:23:27.680 national strength
00:23:29.100 and purpose.
00:23:30.560 Then, of course,
00:23:31.620 Theodore Roosevelt
00:23:32.480 held large
00:23:33.740 family feasts
00:23:34.660 and emphasized
00:23:36.080 outdoor recreation
00:23:37.260 as well as
00:23:37.980 civic virtue.
00:23:38.980 Thanksgiving became
00:23:39.820 more public
00:23:40.820 and more spirited
00:23:41.820 during his
00:23:42.880 presidency.
00:23:44.480 William Howard
00:23:45.240 Taft enjoyed
00:23:46.460 robust family
00:23:47.400 dinners and
00:23:48.200 humorously spoke
00:23:49.580 publicly about
00:23:50.620 overeating.
00:23:52.140 He was, of course,
00:23:53.040 our largest and
00:23:54.240 fattest president.
00:23:55.480 Woodrow Wilson,
00:23:57.720 perhaps our worst
00:23:58.880 president, celebrated
00:23:59.800 quietly, especially
00:24:00.960 during World War I,
00:24:02.500 when he emphasized
00:24:03.340 sacrifice and
00:24:04.820 service.
00:24:05.780 It was at this
00:24:06.460 time when Thanksgiving
00:24:07.280 began adopting
00:24:08.180 themes of wartime
00:24:10.040 unity.
00:24:11.720 President Warren
00:24:12.780 Harding used the
00:24:13.740 day to encourage
00:24:14.460 national recovery
00:24:15.420 after World War I.
00:24:17.360 He once again
00:24:18.120 observed additional
00:24:19.140 meals in a more
00:24:20.240 modest ceremony.
00:24:22.820 Calvin Coolidge,
00:24:24.180 Silent Cal, as he
00:24:25.460 was known, celebrated
00:24:27.160 simply, reflecting his
00:24:28.580 frugal nature.
00:24:30.220 He was the first to
00:24:31.260 accept a live turkey
00:24:32.440 sent to the White 0.71
00:24:33.220 House, an early
00:24:34.980 precursor to the
00:24:36.340 turkey pardon
00:24:37.960 custom.
00:24:38.500 My favorite story
00:24:39.160 about Calvin Coolidge
00:24:40.220 is a woman came up
00:24:42.220 to Calvin Coolidge
00:24:44.100 and said, I bet my
00:24:44.980 girlfriend that I
00:24:46.420 could get you to say
00:24:47.420 more than three
00:24:48.060 words.
00:24:49.200 And Silent Cal said,
00:24:50.440 you lose.
00:24:51.460 Herbert Hoover
00:24:53.660 marked Thanksgiving
00:24:54.700 during the Great
00:24:55.380 Depression with
00:24:56.080 messages of
00:24:56.880 resilience.
00:24:57.820 His dinners were
00:24:58.480 modest, given the
00:24:59.660 fact that we were
00:25:00.240 in the middle of a
00:25:00.940 national depression
00:25:02.220 and hardship.
00:25:03.680 It was President
00:25:04.520 Franklin D.
00:25:05.600 Roosevelt who moved
00:25:06.640 Thanksgiving earlier
00:25:07.820 to lengthen the
00:25:09.120 Christmas shopping
00:25:10.180 season.
00:25:11.180 At the Torum, they
00:25:11.800 called it Frank's
00:25:13.160 Giving after
00:25:14.320 President FDR.
00:25:16.100 He expanded the
00:25:17.520 holidays' commercial
00:25:18.460 and public
00:25:19.220 role.
00:25:20.620 A peppery Harry
00:25:21.700 S. Truman
00:25:22.480 formalized receiving
00:25:23.760 a Christmas turkey
00:25:24.760 and occasionally
00:25:25.500 hinting at sparing
00:25:27.060 it, laying the
00:25:27.760 groundwork for the
00:25:28.860 modern pardon of
00:25:30.820 the turkey.
00:25:32.320 President Truman
00:25:33.360 celebrated with
00:25:34.240 patriotic messages
00:25:35.320 during post-war
00:25:36.220 recovery.
00:25:37.880 Dwight D.
00:25:39.020 Eisenhower, very
00:25:40.820 underrated, perhaps
00:25:41.820 one of the greatest
00:25:42.640 presidents in
00:25:43.420 American history,
00:25:44.320 but so low-key that
00:25:46.380 people didn't
00:25:46.960 recognize the peace
00:25:48.840 and prosperity that
00:25:50.120 we had under
00:25:50.920 Ike.
00:25:51.280 He emphasized
00:25:52.280 family unity
00:25:53.980 and Cold War
00:25:54.880 optimism.
00:25:56.340 Thanksgiving became
00:25:57.360 firmly part of
00:25:58.260 televised American
00:25:59.720 culture.
00:26:00.980 It was, of course,
00:26:01.740 President Dwight D.
00:26:02.900 Eisenhower who, as
00:26:04.140 he was leaving,
00:26:05.400 warned us about the
00:26:06.420 encroaching party
00:26:07.620 of power of the
00:26:08.900 military-industrial
00:26:10.220 complex that we
00:26:12.100 would later know
00:26:12.880 as the deep
00:26:13.760 state.
00:26:14.140 Then, President
00:26:16.200 John F.
00:26:16.880 Kennedy, our
00:26:17.320 first Catholic
00:26:17.980 president, made
00:26:18.740 the first modern
00:26:19.700 non-pardon statement
00:26:21.540 noting Americans
00:26:22.460 shouldn't be hard-hearted
00:26:24.100 to their turkey.
00:26:25.720 His style modernized
00:26:27.360 the holiday's
00:26:28.080 tone, followed by
00:26:29.900 President Lyndon
00:26:31.060 Baines Johnson,
00:26:32.100 perhaps the most
00:26:32.700 corrupt president
00:26:33.540 in American history.
00:26:35.440 And given recent
00:26:36.220 years, that says a
00:26:37.140 lot.
00:26:38.060 He used Thanksgiving
00:26:39.060 proclamations to
00:26:40.080 discuss poverty and
00:26:41.160 civil rights, which 0.85
00:26:42.500 was ironic in view of
00:26:43.440 the fact that in the
00:26:44.200 Senate he'd been a
00:26:44.960 lifelong segregationist,
00:26:46.800 but he celebrated
00:26:47.720 with large Texas-style
00:26:49.560 meals.
00:26:51.060 President Richard
00:26:51.840 Nixon, the
00:26:52.500 president I knew
00:26:53.280 best, often spent
00:26:54.320 Thanksgiving at
00:26:55.060 Thanks David.
00:26:56.300 Observances were
00:26:57.200 much quieter and
00:26:58.180 low-key due to the
00:26:59.100 Vietnam War and
00:27:00.540 because of the
00:27:02.020 political tension in
00:27:03.220 the country.
00:27:04.460 And then, of course,
00:27:05.100 his successor,
00:27:05.940 President Gerald
00:27:06.660 Ford, promoted
00:27:07.520 national healing
00:27:08.460 after Watergate in
00:27:10.140 his Thanksgiving
00:27:11.180 proclamations.
00:27:12.800 He once again
00:27:13.620 hosted traditional
00:27:14.560 family dinners and
00:27:15.680 charity-focused
00:27:17.100 events.
00:27:18.560 Jimmy Carter
00:27:19.380 celebrated modestly
00:27:20.980 and highlighted
00:27:22.080 humanitarian themes.
00:27:23.560 Thanksgiving began to
00:27:24.480 include more public
00:27:25.860 volunteerism.
00:27:28.100 Ronald Reagan
00:27:29.060 popularized the
00:27:30.600 cheerful, photo-friendly
00:27:32.140 turkey event,
00:27:33.540 although it was
00:27:34.160 still not yet
00:27:35.060 called a pardon,
00:27:36.780 but Thanksgiving
00:27:37.500 finally became a
00:27:38.860 major media moment.
00:27:40.520 It was George H.W.
00:27:43.440 Bush who built on
00:27:44.380 the efforts of
00:27:45.240 Reagan, Coolidge,
00:27:46.960 and Kennedy to
00:27:47.700 establish the
00:27:48.460 former presidential
00:27:50.020 turkey pardon in
00:27:52.260 1989, celebrated
00:27:54.500 with messages of
00:27:55.700 global peace after
00:27:56.880 the Cold War.
00:27:58.880 President Bill
00:27:59.700 Clinton emphasized
00:28:00.800 community service and
00:28:02.460 held public
00:28:03.480 volunteer events.
00:28:04.660 The turkey pardon
00:28:05.400 now became annual and
00:28:07.720 nationally televised.
00:28:10.040 George W. Bush
00:28:11.320 used Thanksgiving to
00:28:12.540 honor troops, often
00:28:13.560 visiting military bases.
00:28:15.780 The holiday took on a
00:28:17.680 strong post-11
00:28:18.980 patriotic tone under
00:28:21.380 George W.
00:28:22.940 Barack Obama
00:28:23.820 expanded service
00:28:25.340 themes and began to
00:28:26.340 make a mockery of the
00:28:27.560 turkey pardon ceremony,
00:28:29.180 which was part of his
00:28:30.180 overall agenda, in my
00:28:31.400 opinion, to cheapen and
00:28:33.120 demean all American 0.97
00:28:34.260 culture as a
00:28:35.280 foreign usurper. 0.59
00:28:36.880 President Donald Trump
00:28:38.980 made the turkey pardon a
00:28:40.420 major media event and
00:28:41.740 highlighted economic
00:28:43.100 accomplishments in his
00:28:44.400 proclamations.
00:28:46.120 Thanksgivings remained
00:28:47.080 highly publicized with
00:28:48.500 zero reservations about
00:28:50.880 celebrating our colonial
00:28:52.280 past under Donald Trump
00:28:53.760 in his first term.
00:28:55.700 Joe Biden centered the
00:28:57.120 holiday on unity and
00:28:58.260 healing, at least that's
00:28:59.180 what we think he was
00:29:00.560 trying to say, although
00:29:01.740 if you go back at the
00:29:03.280 word salad, it's a little
00:29:04.560 hard to tell.
00:29:05.300 And of course, earlier
00:29:07.440 today, President Donald
00:29:09.180 Trump called on all
00:29:10.580 Americans to pray for our
00:29:12.760 nation on this
00:29:14.120 Thanksgiving holiday.
00:29:15.700 So as we referenced
00:29:17.420 briefly while giving you
00:29:18.900 this rundown of the
00:29:20.000 various presidents and
00:29:21.180 their Thanksgiving
00:29:22.220 celebrations, the
00:29:23.400 pardoning of the turkey
00:29:24.900 has become a part of
00:29:26.500 American lore.
00:29:27.840 Oftentimes, it's
00:29:29.120 attributed to President
00:29:30.160 George H.W. Bush, but
00:29:31.820 that is somewhat
00:29:33.240 incorrect.
00:29:34.760 Bush actually simply
00:29:35.820 built on a longstanding
00:29:37.080 tradition, you see.
00:29:38.140 The original turkey
00:29:39.280 pardon was done by
00:29:40.200 President Abraham
00:29:41.000 Lincoln.
00:29:42.040 Honest Abe had declared
00:29:43.540 Thanksgiving a national
00:29:45.360 holiday amidst the
00:29:46.300 Civil War and in the
00:29:47.760 spirit of bringing the
00:29:48.640 nation together during
00:29:49.660 its darkest hours.
00:29:50.880 So further demonstrate
00:29:52.540 mercy to a still
00:29:53.600 fragile republic, Honest
00:29:54.860 Abe spared a turkey who
00:29:56.820 his son, Tad, had
00:29:57.920 reportedly grown
00:29:59.080 attached to.
00:29:59.820 And thus, the lore of
00:30:01.620 the presidential turkey
00:30:02.940 pardon began there.
00:30:05.280 Then, in 1932, President
00:30:07.240 Franklin D. Roosevelt
00:30:08.260 received a turkey from
00:30:09.500 the Institute of Poultry
00:30:11.300 Industries, which he
00:30:12.360 opted not to take.
00:30:14.300 It instead went to a
00:30:15.800 children's hospital in
00:30:16.920 Georgia, not quite giving
00:30:18.120 it a pardon, but sparing
00:30:19.960 it.
00:30:20.800 President John F.
00:30:21.740 Kennedy, three days
00:30:22.560 before his assassination,
00:30:24.600 spared a turkey by saying,
00:30:26.620 let's keep him going, and
00:30:28.320 sending a 55-pound bird
00:30:30.320 back to the farm instead
00:30:32.440 of slaughtering it for
00:30:34.020 dinner.
00:30:35.160 Presidents Jimmy Carter
00:30:36.380 and Ronald Reagan both
00:30:37.760 spared turkeys as well
00:30:39.060 as during their tenures
00:30:40.800 of office, although it had
00:30:42.300 not become a formalized
00:30:43.960 tradition quite yet.
00:30:45.760 Reagan was the first 0.98
00:30:46.640 president to coin the
00:30:47.920 term pardon when
00:30:49.460 referencing the turkey
00:30:50.920 vernacular, which
00:30:52.280 therefore stuck.
00:30:53.940 Then George H.W.
00:30:55.780 Bush, that's Bush
00:30:57.300 senior, hoping to cling to
00:30:58.580 the likelihood factor of
00:30:59.920 Reagan, made the turkey
00:31:01.580 pardon an official
00:31:02.580 ceremony as he hoped to
00:31:04.540 endear himself to the
00:31:05.560 American people.
00:31:06.760 That was not incredibly
00:31:08.540 successful for President
00:31:09.780 Bush as the new world 0.57
00:31:10.880 order proponents was the
00:31:13.420 rare one-term president
00:31:15.180 failing to win re-election,
00:31:17.620 something I predicted at
00:31:18.680 the time.
00:31:19.740 I was admonished by many
00:31:21.440 Republicans about it, but
00:31:22.800 he did formalize the turkey
00:31:24.720 pardon and the annual
00:31:26.000 tradition that will live
00:31:27.120 on throughout the
00:31:28.480 annals of time.
00:31:30.060 But Bush senior should
00:31:31.480 never be credited as its
00:31:33.020 creator, as better
00:31:34.200 presidents through our
00:31:34.980 history, actually are the
00:31:36.300 ones who deserve that
00:31:38.080 honor.
00:31:39.580 And then, of course, in
00:31:40.600 his classic trolling
00:31:41.880 style, President Donald
00:31:43.060 Trump re-pardoned the
00:31:44.740 turkeys who were pardoned
00:31:45.820 by President Joe Biden
00:31:46.920 last year, saying earlier
00:31:48.640 today that the auto pen
00:31:50.460 may have been used by Biden
00:31:52.720 to pardon those turkeys 1.00
00:31:53.980 and President Trump
00:31:55.160 wanted to make sure that
00:31:56.780 those pardons were valid.
00:31:59.080 President Trump said,
00:32:00.280 so I have the official
00:32:01.100 duty to determine and I
00:32:02.480 have determined that last
00:32:03.980 year's turkey pardons were
00:32:05.320 totally invalid as the
00:32:07.480 turkeys of about every
00:32:09.340 other person that was
00:32:10.440 pardoned were signed with
00:32:11.860 an auto pen.
00:32:13.440 The turkeys, known as
00:32:14.560 Peach and Blossom last
00:32:15.820 year, have there before
00:32:16.960 been located and they were
00:32:18.580 actually on their way to
00:32:19.460 be processed, in other
00:32:20.520 words, to be killed.
00:32:21.360 But I have stopped that
00:32:23.260 journey and I am
00:32:24.840 officially pardoning them
00:32:27.180 and they will not be
00:32:29.160 served this Thanksgiving.
00:32:31.680 Gotta love Donald Trump,
00:32:32.820 the guy's sense of humor
00:32:33.760 is beyond belief.
00:32:35.300 Additionally, the turkey
00:32:36.420 pardoning this year was
00:32:37.720 named Gobble and Waddle
00:32:39.600 and President Trump said
00:32:41.140 he wanted to name them
00:32:42.200 after Chuck Schumer and
00:32:44.000 Nancy Pelosi, but then 0.90
00:32:46.500 quickly reconsidered for
00:32:48.140 the understandable reasons.
00:32:50.120 President Trump said the
00:32:51.180 turkeys being pardoned
00:32:52.160 today go by the names
00:32:53.800 Gobble and Waddle.
00:32:54.980 When I first saw their
00:32:56.020 pictures, I was going to
00:32:56.980 call them Chuck and
00:32:57.760 Nancy, but then I realized
00:32:59.480 I wouldn't be pardoning
00:33:00.500 them as I would never
00:33:01.760 pardon those two.
00:33:03.800 Donald Trump always tells
00:33:04.960 you what he really thinks.
00:33:08.660 We should give thanks to a
00:33:10.220 president who's adept at
00:33:11.440 kind of trolling the media
00:33:14.140 and the political elites and
00:33:15.360 making a mockery of those
00:33:16.540 two globalists who wish to
00:33:18.160 be taken serious as our
00:33:19.720 overlords.
00:33:21.500 But one of the things
00:33:22.580 that I'm thankful for are
00:33:24.180 the lower prices during
00:33:26.160 this Thanksgiving.
00:33:27.060 Another sign that
00:33:28.020 President Trump's economic
00:33:29.400 claims are actually working
00:33:30.620 the price for a
00:33:31.600 Thanksgiving meal today is
00:33:33.740 lower than it has been in
00:33:34.840 the last four years.
00:33:36.860 And gas prices are also
00:33:38.460 nearing four-year lows.
00:33:40.900 The American Farm Bureau
00:33:42.200 found that the classic
00:33:43.660 American Thanksgiving dinner
00:33:45.040 for 10 people will now
00:33:46.800 cost an average of $55.18,
00:33:49.820 which is down 5% from one
00:33:52.380 year ago.
00:33:53.840 Throughout the Biden
00:33:54.740 presidency, the cost of a
00:33:56.300 Thanksgiving meal surged 14%
00:33:58.940 in the first year of 2021,
00:34:01.180 up to $53.31, which was a
00:34:06.100 record high for Thanksgiving
00:34:07.940 dinner.
00:34:08.920 The price then jumped
00:34:09.920 another 20% the following
00:34:12.080 year of Biden's presidency to
00:34:14.540 $64.05, but by the time
00:34:17.840 Biden left office, prices
00:34:19.320 for Thanksgiving had risen by
00:34:21.020 24% overall.
00:34:24.100 Additionally, the national
00:34:25.540 gas average was $3.05 as of
00:34:28.680 Tuesday, the lowest number
00:34:29.960 recorded since the COVID-19
00:34:32.160 pandemic put a majority of
00:34:33.760 drivers off the road.
00:34:36.020 This has come as a result of
00:34:37.440 the precipitous drop in the
00:34:38.880 cost of crude oil, which
00:34:40.380 has become 17% cheaper
00:34:42.300 since August of last year.
00:34:47.720 The national average reached an
00:34:49.340 insane $5.16 per gallon of gas
00:34:53.140 in June of 20 of 22.
00:34:55.480 So it's clear, despite the media
00:34:57.120 noise and Democrats' spin,
00:34:58.680 President Trump's policies are
00:34:59.960 helping the American families and
00:35:01.960 the masses see how much they're
00:35:03.400 saving during this Thanksgiving
00:35:05.240 holiday.
00:35:06.520 I'm Roger Stone.
00:35:07.540 You're listening to The Stone
00:35:08.480 Zone.
00:35:08.900 We've got more on this
00:35:09.920 Thanksgiving, so please don't
00:35:11.660 touch that dial.
00:35:16.320 The Stone Zone.
00:35:18.200 Entertaining and informative.
00:35:20.360 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:35:23.200 Welcome back to The Stone Zone.
00:35:25.140 I so give thanks for those words of
00:35:27.640 praise from Vice President J.D.
00:35:29.940 Vance.
00:35:30.320 Well, the Thanksgiving holiday
00:35:32.520 travel this year shattered all
00:35:34.660 previous records.
00:35:36.380 In 2025 was the previous record,
00:35:38.660 with estimates this year of some
00:35:40.100 81.8 million Americans leaving
00:35:42.980 home to travel over 50 miles as part
00:35:45.260 of their festivities.
00:35:46.740 According to predictions from the
00:35:49.080 American Auto Association, 73.3
00:35:51.780 million Americans will travel more
00:35:53.620 than 50 miles on the roads, while
00:35:56.120 another 6.6 million will take
00:35:58.480 domestic flights, and another 2.5
00:36:01.160 million will travel by train or
00:36:02.740 other means, such as bus, to spend
00:36:05.120 time with friends or family over the
00:36:07.600 Thanksgiving season.
00:36:09.080 This is an increase of 2% from last
00:36:11.820 year and a 5.2% increase from 2019.
00:36:16.560 The Vice President of the AAA Travel,
00:36:19.680 Stacey Barber, said Thanksgiving
00:36:21.800 travel numbers are always impressive
00:36:24.060 because this holiday has become
00:36:25.660 synonymous with heading out of town
00:36:27.660 to spend time with loved ones.
00:36:29.340 People are willing to brave crowds
00:36:30.960 and make last-minute adjustments to
00:36:32.760 their plans to make lifelong memories,
00:36:35.180 whether it's visiting extended family
00:36:36.740 or meeting up with friends.
00:36:39.460 The numbers show that the globalist
00:36:42.040 plan to break our spirits, divide our
00:36:44.220 communities, and atomize and isolate
00:36:46.800 us from others have been largely
00:36:48.620 unsuccessful.
00:36:50.520 They put us through psychological terror
00:36:52.440 through the COVID pandemic, and it worked
00:36:54.140 for a while, but the public has snapped
00:36:56.900 out of it.
00:36:58.360 I sense a new desire to communicate and
00:37:01.480 contact their loved ones and bridge
00:37:03.320 potential divides to be as near as other
00:37:06.280 Americans as possible.
00:37:07.880 To me, that's what Thanksgiving is all
00:37:09.680 about, and we hope that you enjoyed this
00:37:12.220 holiday as we did.
00:37:14.920 We hope your travel plans are not thwarted
00:37:17.900 due to Thanksgiving snowfall.
00:37:19.340 This year's Thanksgiving demonstrated
00:37:20.800 unreasonably frigid weather in the
00:37:23.320 northeastern United States.
00:37:25.460 Meteorologist Ben Knoll wrote earlier
00:37:27.620 today, for parts of the Dakotas,
00:37:29.700 Minnesota, and Michigan, Thanksgiving snow
00:37:31.480 depth this year could be greater than more
00:37:34.060 than a decade.
00:37:35.580 Up to two feet of snow could fall today in
00:37:39.260 the upper peninsula of Michigan and
00:37:40.940 northern Wisconsin as strong winds cause
00:37:43.800 blizzard-like conditions.
00:37:46.340 Thanksgiving was anticipated to be the
00:37:48.360 snowiest in more than 25 years by
00:37:50.360 meteorologists.
00:37:51.760 So much for the global warming, huh?
00:37:55.180 Nevertheless, there was never a better
00:37:56.740 time to be inside, watch football,
00:37:59.540 eat delicious food, including some nice
00:38:02.640 rigato, and joining precious times with
00:38:05.540 friends and family than today's frigid
00:38:07.960 Thanksgiving.
00:38:08.760 Make sure to drive home safely today and
00:38:10.900 stay secure as we love all of you Stone
00:38:14.680 Zone listeners.
00:38:15.640 We're here five days a week in the fight
00:38:18.820 to save America, and, well, we'll be with
00:38:22.340 you tomorrow as always.
00:38:24.440 I do have to question whether AI is
00:38:26.880 ruining Thanksgiving.
00:38:28.640 Does something seem a bit off during your
00:38:30.880 Thanksgiving dinner today or tonight?
00:38:33.640 Were the dishes not as cohesive as usual?
00:38:36.180 Did you find some bizarre taste notes in some
00:38:39.080 otherwise holiday classics?
00:38:41.060 If you answered yes to any of this, the
00:38:43.100 culprit could be AI.
00:38:44.480 There's an influx of AI-generated content in
00:38:48.920 the food-blocking community with fake
00:38:50.960 images designed to make people feel that
00:38:52.900 they are, what they're reading is
00:38:54.760 authentic.
00:38:55.960 Much of this content has been geared around
00:38:58.120 providing the greatest and tastiest
00:38:59.740 Thanksgiving dinners in recent weeks.
00:39:02.940 So, on this Thanksgiving, we have much to be
00:39:06.260 thankful for.
00:39:07.020 In my case, as I said earlier, I am thankful for my
00:39:11.120 wife's full and complete recovery from aggressive
00:39:13.660 stage 4 cancer.
00:39:14.820 But I'm particularly thankful to the Lord for my
00:39:18.340 freedom, for the pardon that President Trump gave
00:39:21.500 me when he recognized that I was targeted in the
00:39:24.380 Russian collusion hoax.
00:39:26.100 And now I pray that those who tried to destroy
00:39:29.140 President Donald Trump, great patriots like General
00:39:32.720 Michael Flynn and myself and our families, are held
00:39:35.940 accountable and that they see justice.
00:39:38.180 That's what I pray for on this Thanksgiving.
00:39:40.820 Thank you for joining us in the Stone Zone until
00:39:42.960 tomorrow.
00:39:43.880 God bless you and Godspeed.
00:39:46.220 Thanks for listening to the Stone Zone with Roger
00:39:49.360 Stone.
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