The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 12-25-25


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Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

On this Christmas Day in 1972, President Richard Nixon ordered the intense bombing and mining of Haiphong Harbor, as well as other targets in Vietnam, in order to force the North Vietnamese to the table. So this is the day historically, on which we join you.


Transcript

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00:00:37.040 Welcome to the Stone Zone on this Christmas Day.
00:00:41.220 It was Christmas Day in 1972 that President Richard Nixon ordered the intense bombing
00:00:48.680 and mining of Haiphong Harbor, as well as other targets in North Vietnamese,
00:00:56.020 in Vietnam, in order to try to force the North Vietnamese to the table.
00:01:02.860 So this is the day, historically, on which we join you.
00:01:08.260 Nobody is having a better Christmas than President Donald Trump and the First Lady Melania.
00:01:15.360 Her decor for both of the White House and for Mar-a-Lago is really extraordinary,
00:01:22.620 as is her incredible personal style and the way she dresses.
00:01:28.000 That she has never been on the cover of Vogue is a politically correct outrage.
00:01:34.600 Of course, Michelle Obama on the cover of all of the major women's magazines.
00:01:41.320 Whereas Melania, who is both chic, highly intelligent, very kind, speaks seven languages,
00:01:50.660 very wise, and a key advisor and helpmate to her husband,
00:01:55.260 has been shunned by the mainstream media.
00:01:59.000 But still, she is elegant and she is active and she speaks her mind.
00:02:04.080 She's done an amazing job on the decor for Christmas.
00:02:07.780 But the President is really in a special place when he is at Mar-a-Lago.
00:02:12.400 For those who have never been there or will never be there,
00:02:15.980 it is really a mystical place.
00:02:18.720 It was originally the home of Meriwether Post.
00:02:24.260 Marjorie Meriwether Post was, of course, the businesswoman and socialite
00:02:28.900 who owned the Post serial fortune.
00:02:32.860 And it was built between 1924 and 1927.
00:02:37.300 At the time of her death, it was essentially deeded to the U.S. government.
00:02:45.460 It's an opulent, Spanish-style, 30s mansion.
00:02:50.600 When I was working for Donald Trump in the 90s, I guess it was, that he purchased it.
00:03:01.100 We were flying one weekend from New York.
00:03:04.220 I was living in New York at the time, flying to Florida for the weekend.
00:03:07.240 I joined him on his plane flying out of Teterboro to Florida.
00:03:12.420 And he said to me, I'm going to look at this property.
00:03:17.220 This is around 1985, I guess, 84.
00:03:21.580 I'm going to look at this property that I'm thinking of buying in Palm Beach.
00:03:24.840 Do you want to go with me?
00:03:25.720 And I said, certainly.
00:03:26.520 So we walked through the property, which at that point,
00:03:30.180 Mar-a-Lago had been boarded up for over 15 years.
00:03:33.600 It had been examined by Richard Nixon, who actually, there's a record that Nixon flew there
00:03:40.040 with his best friend, Bibi Rebozo from Key Biscayne, to examine it.
00:03:44.940 The government opened up for a walkthrough.
00:03:47.820 It was elegant, but even then, Nixon thought it was much too opulent to fit his every man image.
00:03:56.780 Which the club was ultimately purchased.
00:04:01.160 But anyway, we looked at it and Trump said, what do you think?
00:04:04.020 And I said, wow, it needs a lot.
00:04:05.380 And he said, this could truly be magnificent, magnificent.
00:04:09.680 I said, are you going to buy it?
00:04:11.680 He said, only if I can steal it.
00:04:14.700 Now, initially, the president, then the real estate developer offered the Post family and
00:04:23.200 the government $15 million, which was rejected.
00:04:26.760 Then Trump very wisely purchased land between the club and the oceanfront from a man named
00:04:33.780 Jack C. Massey, the former owner of Kentucky Fried Children for $2 million, announcing that
00:04:40.520 he intended to build a home that would block Mar-a-Lago's view of the beach.
00:04:44.700 This threat caused competing interests in Mar-a-Lago to decline.
00:04:48.920 Trump ultimately purchased a property then for $7 million, stealing it illegally in 1985.
00:04:58.140 Some have put the sources at slightly higher.
00:05:02.080 But today, it's abundantly clear that he bought a property for between $7 and $10 million that
00:05:11.860 had an assessed value in the bankruptcy of $20 million with the interior furnishings alone
00:05:19.880 being purchased at $8 million, being appraised at $8 million.
00:05:23.920 So it was indeed a steal.
00:05:26.580 This was the opulent home where Meriwether Post and her famous actress daughter, Dina Merrill,
00:05:33.600 the famous Dina Merrill.
00:05:35.140 She had a children's room there that had a pink hand-painted tile with little bunnies and
00:05:42.120 so on.
00:05:42.820 It's an upstairs bedroom.
00:05:44.040 So the president has left it intact.
00:05:47.520 It is incredible.
00:05:50.040 But Meriwether Post would have these weekends in which she would have 20 or 30 couples.
00:05:55.900 So upstairs, there's an upper deck of private rooms, which is what ultimately lent this to
00:06:01.640 being a club.
00:06:02.840 The president had it as his principal residence until the 1990s.
00:06:10.900 And it is really quite extraordinary.
00:06:14.840 But it was then and only then he decided to make it a club, which was very alarming to the
00:06:20.560 Palm Beach residents because the Bath and Tennis Club and the other more venerable traditional
00:06:28.740 clubs in old Palm Beach, I really did not look kindly on people who were black or Hispanic or
00:06:38.060 Jewish or Catholic.
00:06:39.580 And Trump's club, he made clear, would be open to all.
00:06:42.820 He ultimately won the rights to turn part of the state into a private club.
00:06:49.440 And the club now functions while he is there as president, which is an extraordinary thing.
00:06:55.400 The president has his own apartment, which is heavily guarded by the Secret Service.
00:07:01.340 I was always concerned when I visited him during his first presidency and when I visited him in
00:07:08.180 Mar-a-Lago during the beginning of this presidency that the Secret Service protection seemed very
00:07:15.460 lax.
00:07:16.420 That is no longer the case.
00:07:17.980 You have to go through a gauntlet where they have to do a background check on you before
00:07:23.520 you're given a QR code.
00:07:26.000 You have to check in.
00:07:27.300 They go through your car looking with mirrors at the bottom.
00:07:31.260 They go through the trunk and under the hood.
00:07:35.380 They check the vehicles for weapons and so on.
00:07:40.780 So it's much, much tighter.
00:07:42.480 It's, of course, tighter on those nights that the president is there.
00:07:46.580 Now, it's like a medieval court in the sense that the president eats out on this round
00:07:52.720 terrace and therefore tables closest to his table are covered.
00:07:57.180 His table is surrounded by velvet ropes and there are four to six Secret Service agents
00:08:03.360 surrounding his table so that the poor man can eat.
00:08:07.000 Otherwise, he would have an endless stream of people asking for selfies or wanting to approach
00:08:12.620 themselves to be Assistant Secretary of the Navy or, of course, many of these people are
00:08:19.680 the president's friends and larger donors.
00:08:23.920 But it's interesting to see the way people jockey to catch his eye, to try to anticipate
00:08:29.700 his route when he comes from his private residence out to dinner.
00:08:34.100 There is always a standing ovation when he comes.
00:08:38.140 Of course, he loves that.
00:08:40.020 And if there was a band, the band would be playing Hail to the Chief.
00:08:45.900 The president loves that song.
00:08:49.240 So it is, it's really a mystical place.
00:08:52.460 It's also a place, of course, where a lot of business gets done.
00:08:55.640 The president entertains there on the weekends and it is there that the, that the, the reception
00:09:08.000 for his marriage to Melania was held.
00:09:11.040 The actual church was, was the Bethesda by the Sea church in Palm Beach.
00:09:18.940 It's actually the church at which Trump and the beautiful Melania Knauss got married.
00:09:24.580 Yeah, my wife and I were guests at that wedding.
00:09:27.660 It was a beautiful, beautiful wedding.
00:09:30.560 It was then the ceremony, which was attended by Bill and Hillary Clinton, among others.
00:09:38.120 Chris Matthews and his wife sat next to my wife and I in our row at church.
00:09:43.100 Go, go figure.
00:09:45.140 But the president loves, loves Mar-a-Lago.
00:09:47.840 He is relaxed there.
00:09:49.800 And it is, it is great to see these images.
00:09:52.820 I think that, that the quality of the food cannot be understated.
00:09:58.240 The perfection of the entire experience cannot be understated.
00:10:02.260 The president is fanatical about the quality of the food.
00:10:07.180 And it is, it is just very top notch in every way.
00:10:12.800 I have a firm policy where I am invited there as a guest because I, of course, am not a member,
00:10:17.840 by the way, membership, which was once, I think, $50,000, has now climbed to close, has now climbed to over a million dollars.
00:10:27.180 I think that price may be negotiable for some friends of the president, but some people have paid as much as $2 million to become a member of this club,
00:10:35.560 which has obviously a limited number of members.
00:10:38.680 And there's a long, long waiting list.
00:10:42.100 It is, the service is extraordinary.
00:10:45.180 The food is incredible.
00:10:47.800 And it is, it is a great, great time.
00:10:52.460 I was, I guess, my blood boiled a little bit over the holidays when I watched Hunter Biden on the Sean Ryan show,
00:11:00.520 complaining about how the 1% get away with everything.
00:11:05.780 He's the one who failed to report millions of dollars of income for he and his family.
00:11:13.700 And the U.S. attorney in Delaware, aware of the fact that he had this unreported income,
00:11:19.980 let those tax charges expire, as opposed to my case in which I simply ran out of money.
00:11:27.940 But I reported every penny of my taxes, and I reported every, all of my assets.
00:11:35.160 The Biden Justice Department sued me in a civil action, but the press release didn't live up to their indictment,
00:11:42.740 and there was no evidence of tax evasion.
00:11:44.840 My wife and I simply ran out of cash, and we will be paying them with interest in penalties probably for the rest of our lives.
00:11:51.920 But we had paid them irregularly for seven years without missing a payment until they bankrupted me.
00:11:57.300 And then they sued me over my inability to pay.
00:12:01.040 Makes for little sense.
00:12:02.320 Quite different than Hunter Biden, who skipped out on millions and millions of income that he never declared.
00:12:11.260 And again, the government let those charges expire knowingly.
00:12:15.300 So it was outrageous for him to be complaining about the 1% who get away with everything.
00:12:21.380 The 1% is Joe Biden and his brother Jim and his son Hunter, who we could call the facilitator.
00:12:28.580 Once again, Hunter Biden says in his interview with Sean Ryan, who's a very popular podcast,
00:12:34.000 that the laptop has been manipulated or is somehow not real.
00:12:39.500 All of that is false.
00:12:40.820 The laptop results, as reported by the New York Post, story broken by Miranda Devine, well covered in Breitbart News.
00:12:49.680 The New York Post got banned before the election off of Twitter over that story, which was that in itself is outrageous.
00:12:58.180 All of that has been documented by the Marco Polo nonprofit organization.
00:13:04.040 You can go to Marco Polo dot org.
00:13:07.040 Marco Polo dot org.
00:13:09.120 You can download all of the laptop or you can get the printed version.
00:13:14.060 It's appropriately blurred in the parts that are pornographic.
00:13:17.100 But what you see there are 154 crimes, mostly the crime of bribery, but also crimes of treason in which the Biden crime family syndicate took in millions and millions of dollars.
00:13:30.660 And some of it, yes, went to the big guy, Joe Biden.
00:13:34.980 And so the idea that he's complaining that that that that some people get away with everything is really extraordinary.
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00:14:37.600 So I went to the White House Christmas Party last Monday night.
00:14:42.400 And it was an extraordinary experience.
00:14:44.860 The president, of course, spoke briefly.
00:14:47.540 Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy was there.
00:14:52.160 Attorney General Pam Bondi was there.
00:14:55.600 Republican strategist and pollster Tony Fabrizio was there.
00:15:04.060 It was the FBI director, Cash Patel, was there.
00:15:08.480 The CIA director, John Ratcliffe, was there.
00:15:13.880 It was a great, great crowd.
00:15:17.520 Laura Loomer was there, to the surprise of some.
00:15:20.660 And it was very, very elegant.
00:15:23.820 The Marine String Quartet played.
00:15:26.960 The food was extraordinary.
00:15:28.740 They had this tenderloin that would just blow your mind.
00:15:32.560 But incredible smoked salmon.
00:15:37.000 Pork belly, which was very interesting.
00:15:40.520 Great, great desserts.
00:15:43.280 I mean, the food was extraordinary, although I barely got to nibble on it.
00:15:48.360 It's instructive, I think, to look at how the presidents have treated Christmas in the White House.
00:15:54.660 On the holiest of days, this is the holiest of day.
00:15:57.140 It's interesting that in the earliest days of the Republic, Christmas was not the major public holiday that we know today.
00:16:06.440 Presidents like Washington and John Adams treated it really as a quiet religious observance,
00:16:12.560 often marked by church attendance, private family meals, handwritten correspondence,
00:16:18.080 but no tradition of gift giving and so on.
00:16:21.780 The president himself was deliberately restrained in those days.
00:16:25.160 So there were no decorations, like no public celebrations and no political theater.
00:16:31.100 That began to change in the 19th century.
00:16:33.240 Christmas naturally evolved into the national holiday.
00:16:36.460 America developed into a preeminent world power.
00:16:40.060 Presidents, or let's face it, politicians, increasingly used it symbolically as an example of civic virtue and family life.
00:16:49.880 So Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln kept modest Christmases because they were both affected by war.
00:16:58.560 But Lincoln, who was governing during the Civil War, continued the tradition of charity.
00:17:03.520 I mean, donating to wounded soldiers and orphans while reminding Americans that peace and goodwill were not luxuries during the Christmas months.
00:17:12.880 The modern White House really took place in the late 1800s.
00:17:18.820 Benjamin Harris was actually the first president to install a Christmas tree.
00:17:23.140 He used to call him Benny, I'm told, in 1889, setting a precedent that endures today.
00:17:30.100 If you've looked at some of our middle presidents, like Benjamin Harris and others, it's amazing.
00:17:38.980 A lot of these guys, it kind of looks like ZZ Topp, Rutherford B. Hayes, James Garfield.
00:17:45.460 These guys are all long beards, but those were among some of our greatest, if less heralded presidents.
00:17:54.140 By the 20th century, Christmas had become more of a family celebration, symbolic moment of national unity.
00:18:02.640 That symbolism was used very extensively by Franklin Roosevelt, who gave a Christmas radio address every year, which for a sitting president was a very big deal.
00:18:17.980 Radio addresses by Roosevelt emphasized sacrifice, faith, endurance, messages meant for the factory workers and soldiers overseas.
00:18:29.000 So Christmas helps boy spirits during the war.
00:18:33.140 Anyway, we're back in just a moment on this Christmas day, so don't go away.
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00:19:18.900 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:19:21.900 If you've read any of my books, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, or The Bush Crime Family,
00:19:32.960 The Clintons' War on Women, the book in which I am, I think, the second author in the country to fully expose Jeffrey Epstein,
00:19:41.880 and his closeness to Bill Clinton, as well as the bounds of his relationship with Donald Trump, and, of course, there is the making of the president in 2016.
00:19:54.800 The judge threatened to throw me in jail when I published a book entitled The Myth of Russian Collusion, claiming that it would violate a gag order,
00:20:07.320 even though the publication date was prior to the imposition of that unconstitutional gag order.
00:20:15.600 See, that's the worst thing about being lynched by the federal government.
00:20:19.740 They take away your rights in court.
00:20:22.580 You're not allowed to prove your innocence, although under the law, they're supposed to prove your guilt.
00:20:27.080 You're not required to prove your innocence, but you're really required to do so.
00:20:31.020 But they won't allow you to introduce any of the evidence that would do so.
00:20:35.000 So, in my case, it was based on the false premise that the Russians, through their intelligence, had hacked to the DNC,
00:20:43.740 were subject to an online hack, and that information had somehow made its way to WikiLeaks through me or with my knowledge,
00:20:54.760 which is, of course, not true, because I could have proved with forensic evidence and expert testimony that there was no online hack.
00:21:04.220 The FBI admitted they never examined the devices.
00:21:07.660 So, one of the two pillars of the Russian collusion that the Russians hacked the DNC is a complete fabrication.
00:21:14.480 And the head of the company who made that assessment, Fusion GPS, actually testified,
00:21:24.520 pardon me, CrowdStrike, wrong company, CrowdStrike, who, Sean Henry, who happened to be a former deputy of special counsel Robert Mueller,
00:21:34.600 testified that he had no such proof that the Russians had hacked the DNC.
00:21:39.140 But I was allowed to show that in court.
00:21:42.480 His history, the fake news media just kind of makes the narrative.
00:21:47.960 I've been studying the career of the much vilified Senator Joseph R. McCarthy.
00:21:54.960 McCarthy has been typecast in history as a villain, and his critics insist that he was a reckless, drunk demagogue,
00:22:06.400 and that he destroyed innocent people for which he actually would be censured by the U.S. Senate.
00:22:14.200 That's because Joe McCarthy went after communism as the international menace, which had indeed infiltrated our government.
00:22:25.580 And in truth, everything McCarthy exposed, including communists like Bella Dodd and Owen Lattimore and others, were indeed Russian agents.
00:22:38.520 If you have any questions about the fact that McCarthy actually ferreted it out and exposed communist corruption in our government,
00:22:45.060 there's a book called Blacklisted by History by M. Stanchion Evans.
00:22:49.580 Ann Coulter once called this the greatest book written since the Bible.
00:22:54.400 And it tells in painstaking detail how tail gunner Joe, an ex-Marine, actually exposed the communist corruption that today thoroughly infects our federal government,
00:23:10.640 academia, entertainment, academia, entertainment, and business, with the Chinese communists buying influence at the highest levels of U.S. government and all of those institutions.
00:23:24.800 Joe McCarthy was absolutely right.
00:23:28.020 McCarthy himself is kind of an interesting character.
00:23:31.440 He was a country judge, a Marine veteran who was indeed a tail gunner, who challenged Robert M. La Follette Jr. in a U.S. Senate primary.
00:23:47.260 La Follette was a sitting U.S. senator and incumbent, and he was the son of Robert M. La Follette Sr., who had also been a U.S. senator.
00:23:57.040 They dominated the Republican Party, later became progressive, but McCarthy really, just by his dog driving county to county and campaigning as a country judge,
00:24:12.840 and without really mentioning the communist menace yet, won the U.S. Senate seat, and beating La Follette in Wisconsin was an extraordinary feat.
00:24:23.320 Now, Joe McCarthy, whose name is now tied to McCarthyism, hasn't been vilified as one of the great villains of all times,
00:24:35.200 but he actually once employed both Roy Cohn, later the notorious lawyer and power broker, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Sr.
00:24:46.280 Interestingly enough, Joe McCarthy, as a bachelor, actually briefly dated Patricia Kennedy, the sister to President John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy,
00:24:59.160 who later married the actor Peter Lawford.
00:25:03.120 Joseph R. Joseph R. McCarthy, pardon me, Joseph P. Kennedy, John Kennedy's father, who's a partner with Frank,
00:25:17.000 a partner with the mob, really, with Frank Costello, controlling all of bootlegging and illegal liquor from New York all the way up to the Canadian border.
00:25:28.540 Joe Kennedy, also a flamboyant former SEC chairman, bought a Hollywood studio, made millions of dollars on Wall Street.
00:25:39.900 Joe Kennedy was a strong anti-communist, a close friend and supporter of J. Edgar Hoover's, really the man who pushed John F. Kennedy into the presidency,
00:25:49.480 but he was a major donor to Senator McCarthy.
00:25:54.000 When Joe McCarthy died, Robert and Ethel Kennedy were actually the lone Democrats at Joe McCarthy's funeral.
00:26:04.400 Roy Cohn, of course, was the son of a Tammany judge who'd used his father's political connections to become a federal prosecutor.
00:26:12.380 Cohn famously prosecuted the Rosenberg case.
00:26:17.700 He has a very famous line in front of the judge when the judge asks him if there's any doubt about the request for the death penalty.
00:26:27.280 And Cohn said, Your Honor, if I could flip the switch myself, I would.
00:26:33.940 He joined McCarthy as counsel to his subcommittee.
00:26:37.680 Cohn was actually a genius in many ways.
00:26:41.500 He was McCarthy's brain.
00:26:43.380 He understood the tabloid media.
00:26:46.140 He had very close relationships among the reporters and columnists who shaped the public narrative about what was happening in Washington.
00:26:56.840 Cohn was very adept at leaking information to Bill McCarthy's image and the public profile of their fight against communism.
00:27:06.680 McCarthy was given to pretty heavy drinking.
00:27:16.580 In the end, of course, they tried to accuse him of being a drunk.
00:27:20.380 But the problem was McCarthy struck too close to home, made the fatal mistake of taking on the U.S. Army.
00:27:27.220 And that would end his downfall.
00:27:31.120 President Eisenhower, who McCarthy had supported in 1952, turned decisively against him.
00:27:37.500 And the media of its day, led by Edward R. Murrow, a very powerful radio voice and all of the other major columnists, turned on McCarthy with a vengeance, distorting his claims, depicting him as a bully, a drunkard, a homosexual, and a villain.
00:27:59.780 But that's not the true story of Senator Joe McCarthy.
00:28:06.120 Tail gunner Joe rose to prominence in the 1950s, actually because he dared to state a truth that the American establishment in the day found intolerable.
00:28:15.600 Communism was not just some foreign abstraction, but it was a domestic infestation.
00:28:21.820 As a driving member of the House Un-American Activities Committee, quite separately from McCarthy, Congressman Richard M. Nixon proved that Alger Hiss had been a communist spy.
00:28:36.500 Now, Hiss ultimately would be convicted of perjury for lying about being a communist spy.
00:28:43.900 And the liberals insisted for years that Nixon, who used the Hiss case to spring into national prominence, because a communist spy who'd been at the highest levels, had been at Roosevelt's sleeve at Yalta, had been at the highest levels of the State Department,
00:29:03.140 that divided up Europe and gave control of half and much of Europe to Russian communism, put them behind the Iron Curtain, was a huge story that catapulted Nixon into national prominence.
00:29:19.840 It's interesting that years later, when the Soviet Russian government fell and all of the KGB records were finally revealed, we found that, in fact, Alger Hiss actually was a Russian spy.
00:29:37.800 And Alger Hiss had been passed documents by a fellow communist at the time, Whitaker Chambers.
00:29:45.860 Whitaker Chambers was an editor at the time.
00:29:50.540 He was a hard-drinking and intellectual and very religious man who had been a communist, become disillusioned, had become a conservative.
00:30:01.380 But he had testified that Hiss passed him microfilm documents to pass to their Russian handlers.
00:30:11.420 Alger Hiss denied that, denied knowing Chambers, later conceded that he may have known Chambers under a different name.
00:30:22.200 But ultimately, the typewriter that Hiss had used to send things to Chambers and the exact match proved that Chambers was telling the truth.
00:30:32.640 Anyway, the Russian records would later tell us that Alger Hiss was a spy.
00:30:40.000 So Nixon was absolutely right about that.
00:30:45.220 It is amazing how they have vilified McCarthy.
00:30:51.340 He fought in the hearing rooms, the committee chambers, media arenas, where reputations were easily weaponized and truth was treated as heresy.
00:30:59.540 He did it during the post-war moment when Stalin had already enslaved Eastern Europe, Mao had butchered China, and American secrets were already bleeding into Soviet hands.
00:31:11.060 The Rosenberg case, of course, is a personal example.
00:31:14.620 McCarthy understood that civilization would collapse not only by invasion, but by internal corrosion.
00:31:20.520 This is what McCarthy turned out to be absolutely right about.
00:31:23.720 You recognize America could be strangled slowly through bureaucratic capture, cultural degradation, and moral disarmament.
00:31:31.980 Or as they said in Pogo, we have met the enemy and they is us.
00:31:36.640 The communist infiltration in our government ended up with our using USAID to actually fund every crazy cockamamie left-wing color revolution, pro-impeachment, anti-free enterprise, pro-censorship initiative, unimaginable, including many that were strictly and totally political.
00:32:03.260 So they were using our own tax dollars against Donald Trump and anyone who agreed with him, meanwhile undermining us and helping give more and more power to the Chinese.
00:32:18.240 Unless one wakes up to the great danger of China, one does not understand the peril that America faces.
00:32:24.940 Russia, Russia, I'm no fan of the Russians.
00:32:28.240 I have relatives mowed down by Russian tanks in Budapest in 1956, and they are authoritarians.
00:32:37.240 But we share with them a problem with radical Islam.
00:32:42.120 They are a Christian-based nation, and the churches are open, although somewhat controlled.
00:32:47.960 And at the same time, China is moving into a vacuum around the world.
00:32:54.540 China has brought up near control of rare earth minerals that are needed to make things like chips and batteries and other key elements.
00:33:03.460 President Trump has an initiative to very quickly get Americans mining, control of mining of these rare earth minerals.
00:33:12.400 They have also given huge dollars to academic institutions.
00:33:16.480 They paid Joe Biden, the former vice president, almost one million dollars to endow a chair for classes that he never taught, so that he just was essentially putting Chinese money into his pocket.
00:33:30.540 Of course, he won't be prosecuted for that because he's part of that one percent that Hunter Biden was whining about, who get away with everything.
00:33:40.460 Anyway, I'm Roger Stone.
00:33:42.540 Thanks for joining us on this Christmas Day show.
00:33:46.200 The day Richard Nixon bombed Hanoi, very famously said that he left the Oval Office and went over to his corner office in the old executive office building.
00:33:58.380 And after talking with Dr. Kissinger, he made the decision to devastatingly blow the attack North Vietnam on Christmas Day to try to bring them around.
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00:34:33.600 I continue to examine the case of Rahmanullah Lakawal, the Afghan national, who is now charged with fatally shooting two National Guard members near the White House last month.
00:34:49.340 Only one of the two died, thankfully.
00:34:53.320 The second life was saved.
00:34:55.560 A move that will now set this monster up to deceive the death penalty, fulfilling a pledge made by Attorney General Pam Bondi.
00:35:07.020 But what surprises me is Black and Wild 29 got into the country and had only one year to apply for asylum.
00:35:18.540 And this is when Joe Biden left in 2022, I believe it was.
00:35:26.420 Yet he waited two years or three years past the time he was supposed to receive asylum to get asylum status.
00:35:34.720 That's quite suspicious.
00:35:36.160 But then you learn that he worked with and for the CIA in the country.
00:35:42.540 So in Afghanistan.
00:35:45.500 So I believe that he is or was an asset.
00:35:51.600 U.S. Attorney Janine Pirro said that their head office sees the gravity of the crime, noting that that the woman who was murdered, Sarah Beckstrom, 20, was therefore allowed prosecutors to consider capital punishment.
00:36:12.540 Beckstrom, tragically shot with her own service weapon.
00:36:18.300 Both the other officer, both of these fine Americans from West Virginia, has survived, for which we really are quite grateful.
00:36:32.360 The U.S. Attorney says that they are going to seek the death penalty.
00:36:38.160 Lackawal was wounded, entered the United States in 2021, which is just months, actually, after Joe Biden botched the Afghan withdrawal, leaving, I think, 31, 39, 31, I think it is, service people to die.
00:36:56.880 And additionally, leaving not hundreds of millions, but billions of dollars of sophisticated military equipment behind.
00:37:05.160 Equipment immediately transferred to the communist Chinese, who technologically knocked it off.
00:37:11.860 One of the stupidest things ever.
00:37:13.680 At a minimum, as Trump has pointed out, our military should have destroyed it on their way out to stop it from falling in enemy hands.
00:37:21.580 If we couldn't get all of this very sophisticated military equipment out of the country.
00:37:29.720 It is very interesting that he has porously moved into this country.
00:37:37.520 But thousands of others were let through the floodgates at the same time.
00:37:41.340 We were told by the administration, these people were scrupulously screened.
00:37:49.440 But if that were true, then he would never have been able to get in three years after the deadline.
00:37:58.220 So I think it is abundantly clear that there's more to the story.
00:38:06.720 And this looks to me like a terrorist act.
00:38:10.380 Now, I keep reading that they're searching for his motive.
00:38:13.900 Yet it is also reported in the same reports that he held Ali Akbar, in which case his motive, I think, is abundantly clear.
00:38:24.960 But I'd like to be certain that he was, in fact, a fanatic operating on his own and not an asset,
00:38:33.220 given his background and the strange circumstances into which he got into the country.
00:38:39.320 They call this conspiracy theorists because we're trying to look at the facts of all of these complicated cases.
00:38:45.940 And we just don't believe what the mainstream media tells us in any of these high-level, publicly prominent cases.
00:38:57.680 So this is yet another one to watch.
00:39:01.440 Thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:39:03.960 We are redeemed in the blood of the cross.
00:39:08.060 And it is through him that all things are possible.
00:39:11.140 God bless you and thank you for joining us until tomorrow.
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