The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Triumph of Vance & Humiliation of Walz

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.220 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.240 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald

00:00:15.960 Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:20.940 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the

00:00:25.980 Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,

00:00:31.120 Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:38.260 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone. And yes, you are back in the Stone Zone. Sorry if I'm a little bleary-eyed

00:00:46.060 this morning. The tumultuous debate by J.D. Vance last night had us up celebrating after the event.

00:00:55.680 I had a great three-way broadcast with Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change and, of course,

00:01:02.540 Alex Jones of Infowars. You can see that on Rumble if you missed it. We did live commentary both before,

00:01:10.540 during, and after the debate. We have a special guest today, a man who means what he says and

00:01:17.160 says what he means. Yes, it's Cat Turd. Before we bring him in, let me bring in my co-host,

00:01:22.960 Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News. He was keeping track of the debate last night.

00:01:30.380 Cat Turd, based on his comments online, also tuned in. Can't wait to break it down with both

00:01:36.140 of these gentlemen. So, Troy Smith, welcome back into the Zone.

00:01:40.200 Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here, and I welcome you to the future of the Republican Party

00:01:44.760 after that debate. What a shellacking that was. Can't wait to break it down today.

00:01:48.340 All right, and let's bring in our guest. Yes, the one, the only, Cat Turd.

00:01:55.080 Hey, hey, hey.

00:01:56.840 So glad to have you with us. You're looking great this morning, as always.

00:02:00.400 I always look like that, don't I?

00:02:03.320 It's great.

00:02:05.800 First of all, you've been doing a lot to help hurricane victims.

00:02:09.760 Yesterday's show, we broke down the fact that in North Carolina, of the 100 counties in the state,

00:02:18.220 25 are affected, not minimizing in any way the human suffering, the horrific devastation

00:02:27.280 of the communities there. We have to look down the road a little bit towards a presidential election

00:02:35.980 and 30-plus days away. But first, let's talk about the hurricane. You've been doing quite a bit,

00:02:43.240 and I give you a lot of credit for that. Tell us your assessment of what's going on.

00:02:50.400 Yeah, I mean, it's, well, I'm familiar with hurricanes. I've lost my house twice in them before

00:02:55.880 in Opal and Elena, and I was also a dead sinner of Michael, you know, and my whole property was

00:03:02.560 destroyed, and my town was destroyed. So I kind of understand when this happens, and I'm always

00:03:08.160 sympathetic when it happens. But, you know, it's, these floods, you know, water is so powerful,

00:03:16.820 and people think fire is powerful, but water, once the water starts rushing in these towns and they

00:03:21.640 get washed away. I mean, when you don't have anything left, I've been there. And when everything's

00:03:26.220 gone, and then you don't have much money, you're really in a bad situation. And, you know, here in

00:03:32.460 Florida, they can build roads back pretty quick, because it's all flat, it's all sand-based. You

00:03:37.460 can build roads fast here. But up there, you know, over these mountains, there's, there's two-lane

00:03:42.960 roads. If you, I hang out up in that area a lot, and there's two-lane roads everywhere. They go up the

00:03:47.640 mountains, they wind back and forth. They have crazy, you know, bridges. And so even if you

00:03:54.300 wasn't washed away or didn't have any house damage, there's thousands of people up there that just can't

00:03:59.620 get out. Yeah, it's really extraordinary. One of the engineers works on this show. He's just in

00:04:06.720 North Florida, which was not nearly as hardly hit as some of the other states, but he's still three

00:04:13.660 feet underwater. He's got, now he says the water in his living room is down to two and a half feet.

00:04:19.600 He's eating FEMA food, he's drinking FEMA water. He says it's just a disaster. Our hearts go out to

00:04:27.380 those people. And President Donald Trump has authorized a give, send, go, which is, last time

00:04:34.520 I looked, he had raised well in excess of a million dollars. It's going to do much better than that.

00:04:39.820 In this whole situation, it's interesting. Donald Trump's acting like the president. Joe Biden is

00:04:47.260 acting like he's asleep. And Kamala Harris is acting like it never even happened at all. I would have

00:04:53.740 thought that an administration that politicizes everything would have tried to squeeze political

00:05:00.300 points out of this. But as we reviewed yesterday, of the hundred counties that are affected,

00:05:06.300 25 of them, pardon me, of the 25 counties out of a hundred that are affected, the vast majority,

00:05:13.720 23, 22 or 23, are hard red crimson counties where Donald Trump has to get margin on election day.

00:05:24.260 Only really one county, Buncombe County, which is Asheville's Democrat stronghold, also adversely

00:05:32.000 affected. And then there's one or two swing counties, but are also decimated. I don't know.

00:05:39.360 I don't know how you get a mail-in ballot if your mailbox no longer exists because your home blew away.

00:05:45.680 I don't know how you set up polling stations if there's no electricity, no roads for that matter. I'm not

00:05:53.440 sure how they're going to solve this problem. But I would guess that Mayor, that Governor Cooper,

00:05:59.440 who's a Democrat in the Biden administration, are not in any hurry to bring back Western North Carolina.

00:06:07.360 Yep. I said the same thing. They, they, they, they, they're, they're probably behind the scenes.

00:06:12.960 These, these people are evil. You know, they're not just, uh, uh, just people that are just like,

00:06:17.880 oh, you know, they got the wrong ideas. These people are evil and they will, they're glad this

00:06:22.480 happened. I have no doubt in my mind. And they're not going to fix it anytime soon. Like you said,

00:06:27.720 because this helps them when nobody can vote and they're, and that, and they're happy about that.

00:06:31.700 No doubt about it. I mean, look what they're doing. They're not there.

00:06:35.360 This is why I love having you on the show. Tell it like it is. Um, so the debate last night,

00:06:40.860 you were watching, uh, give us your impressions.

00:06:44.280 Well, it was, um, it was a good old fashioned butt kicking. I mean, when you, when you, when you,

00:06:50.700 when your opponent calls himself a knucklehead, you know, it's pretty much over right there.

00:06:54.620 Oh God. And then he said he's, he's, he's, he knows, um, um, um, school shooters. And it's just,

00:07:04.840 I mean, JD Vance is something else. And he's, he's a polished debate. I remember they tried to

00:07:09.000 paint him as weird and we saw who the weirdo was last night. And, uh, he, he was a deer in the

00:07:14.820 headlight. And this is what happens when you hide from the press. You got JD Vance. Who's gone on

00:07:21.040 every show, every hostile show. He's, he's, he's, he's, uh, answering questions every day.

00:07:26.220 He's on, uh, he's on CNN. He's on MSNBC. He's everywhere. And he's not scared to go into the

00:07:30.940 lion's den and that polishes you. That makes you better. It's just like a football player that

00:07:35.880 sits on the bench or a football player that takes every snap. And then they've been hiding

00:07:40.020 no tampon Tim. And you saw what happened. He just, he looked nervous. He was just, and, and,

00:07:45.220 and it was three on one again, huh? The moderators give me a break. Yeah. No, no male moderator.

00:07:51.140 How, uh, how interesting. Two women, uh, very interesting. Yeah. So there's three women up

00:07:56.260 there and JD Vance. Yeah. Good point. Uh, it's, uh, it's interesting, uh, that see in these things,

00:08:03.260 I think tone is extraordinarily important. Uh, and that's what was so great about JD Vance's tone.

00:08:10.020 I thought it was disarming. Uh, if people had a caricature of him, I think that caricature

00:08:16.820 was erased. See, I think the attacks on him are basically elitism. I, these people hate the fact

00:08:23.820 that he came from nothing. He came from a hard scrabble, uh, you know, uh, beginnings, uh,

00:08:30.660 had a lot of adversity in his life, transcended all of it to have a, uh, a brilliant academic career.

00:08:37.420 Tim Walsh attacked him for going to Yale. He wasn't a, a legacy, uh, a student at Yale. He earned

00:08:44.140 his way to Yale. By the way, uh, Susan Rice and Antony Blinken, uh, in the, uh, in the Biden,

00:08:50.780 Harris, Obama inner circle, they went to Yale, but that, I guess that's okay for them. Uh, I think

00:08:57.100 they hate this guy because of where he came from. I think they hate him because of his rural,

00:09:01.260 uh, come from nothing roots. I think it's snobby, uh, elitism. Uh, and they try to depict him as some

00:09:08.620 kind of, you know, uh, uncaring ideologue. I think he destroyed that caricature last night. His tone

00:09:14.860 was absolutely perfect. He, he never, uh, he never took the bait. He never lost his temper. He was

00:09:20.980 conciliatory yet. He still, he still made every point. A couple of things I would have done a little

00:09:27.020 differently. And we can talk about that, but, uh, Troy, what was your thinking? Well, Roger,

00:09:32.380 you know, there's a couple of things that were running through my mind as I was watching this

00:09:35.260 debate and we're monitoring the trends and things like that, uh, that people are talking about. And

00:09:40.060 one thing is you were exactly right. The tone of JD Vance is, is so different than Donald Trump. Uh,

00:09:45.740 yet the result was almost the same, which was a total domination of his opponent. Uh, JD Vance is not a

00:09:52.060 guy that's gonna run out there, uh, heavy swinging on his opponent. He kind of sits back. He lets the

00:09:58.140 opponent kind of dig themselves a hole and he hands them the shovel. And he, he did a fantastic job last

00:10:03.820 night of, of sitting back, waiting for walls to make the mistake, then hitting his jab, but not doing

00:10:10.540 it in a way that was going to take the discussion into a different kind of place. Now, when I was

00:10:15.100 watching last night, Roger, I was kind of, you know, just making sure, you know, watching walls,

00:10:19.900 he looked really terrifying. I think, you know, Katzard hit it on the head here. This guy has not

00:10:23.980 done much media. He hasn't been challenged on anything yet. JD Vance has been challenged.

00:10:29.260 She's gone into the hostile territory. And I just want to say, you know, we talk so much about the

00:10:33.260 political reformation of this country right now and how it's realigning and how our parties are

00:10:38.060 changing and who's voting. You know, you pointed something out, Roger. I think it's really important.

00:10:42.380 JD Vance, uh, who comes from literally nothing from a drug, drug addicted home. Uh, he happens to have

00:10:48.620 the same politics as Donald Trump, who, as the liberals point out time and time again,

00:10:53.180 comes from this family of extreme, you know, a lot of wealth and money in New York City.

00:10:57.820 So for the, for the liberals who have spent their entire time saying MAGA is elitism,

00:11:02.860 JD Vance really is the antidote to that talking point. And we saw that on display last night,

00:11:08.460 the liberals in this country, the Democrat party has a major problem where more and more of their

00:11:13.100 voter base is, are, are the elitist people. They're not seeing the common people. And JD Vance,

00:11:18.380 uh, to me last night, provided a window into what the future of the Republican Party should look

00:11:23.580 like. Not a return to Mitt Romney, not a return to John McCain, but a, a, a move forward, uh, to a

00:11:29.580 party that, that, that includes all people, uh, no matter whether you're JD Vance that comes from a drug

00:11:34.700 addicted home with, with nothing or Donald Trump. I think it speaks to, uh, where we're headed as a country.

00:11:40.140 And Roger, I'm interested to see, you know, that kind of point, that reformation was reaffirmed to

00:11:44.460 me last night, pretty heavily. I wanted to get your thoughts on that.

00:11:46.700 I think one of the most significant things in the debate, uh, and was very smart, JD Vance embraced

00:11:53.580 Robert F. Kennedy Jr., embraced Tulsi Gabbard, embraced, embraced what I think is a coming realignment

00:12:01.260 of his politics. And for reasons that really confound me, the Democrats continue to think that the

00:12:07.580 support of Dick Cheney, uh, and the McCains is, uh, somehow a huge national plus, which it's not.

00:12:15.340 I mean, I, I think this is, uh, we're in a situation in which the realignment is between the warmongers,

00:12:21.660 uh, and those with common sense, those who would like to keep us out of war. Uh, I think the Kennedy

00:12:28.540 Gabbard connection here is one of the absolute keys to victory. The president, uh, didn't mention it in the

00:12:35.260 debate. Uh, well, I should say the mugging that was given to him by ABC, but then I guess if I had

00:12:42.220 a blaring light shining in my eyes disconcerting me or disorienting me, I wouldn't hit it either.

00:12:48.620 Uh, Kat has turned your, your thoughts, uh, uh, on JD last night, uh, additionally,

00:12:54.940 then we'll throw a few clips up and kind of take them apart.

00:12:59.820 Yeah. But one thing y'all said is if you get Trump this time, you're going to get,

00:13:03.580 you're going to get Robert Kennedy Jr. You're going to get Elon Musk. You're going to get all

00:13:07.340 these people who are actually trying to help the country and can, you know? And I mean,

00:13:12.860 it's amazing to me. Anybody can even vote for that airhead. Come on. It really is. I don't get it.

00:13:18.220 She's a total dingbat. Um, I mean, look at, look at the, look at the, uh, uh, she read something at

00:13:23.660 FEMA, no questions and that's it. That's all. That's all you'll ever hear from her.

00:13:27.820 You know, that's it. I solved it. But, uh, yeah, JD, man, I didn't, I didn't really know

00:13:37.100 JD that well because I'm, you know, he's from Ohio. I'm from Florida and it's, he's kind of

00:13:41.340 was a local politician there, but man, you realize why Trump picked him more and more. And last night,

00:13:47.740 just kind of solidified everything why Trump picked him. And I believe a lot of people, uh,

00:13:52.620 now realize, you know, don't doubt Trump. Yeah, I completely agree with that. In fact,

00:13:59.020 I tweeted it last night. I think he's taken a disproportionate amount of crap. Uh, but last

00:14:04.220 night was his moment. Last night was his defining moment. Now you see precisely why Trump took him

00:14:10.140 and precisely, uh, why he was, uh, the right guy. So a couple of small things, uh, I do think, uh,

00:14:17.500 in the opening exchange, uh, perhaps he should have pointed out that it was the sanctions

00:14:24.460 that Trump put on, uh, on Iran that prevented war. I mean, we had them on the verge of bankruptcy.

00:14:31.420 The sanctions were so harsh, uh, that the Iranians couldn't sell their oil even to the Chinese.

00:14:36.940 Uh, it is only the refinancing, uh, of the regime by the Biden Harris administration, which is a,

00:14:46.780 a policy of the Barack Obama administration that is responsible for the horrific brink of war that

00:14:54.940 we're almost on. Uh, I would have liked it if he had dealt with the borders, the Lankford border

00:15:01.980 security bill, which is not a bird security bill that would not have sealed the border and $89

00:15:08.780 billion in there for, uh, pardon me, $89 million more for Ukraine, uh, had, uh, uh, money for lawyers

00:15:17.820 for the illegals. But more importantly, it, it codified, uh, it did, did away with catch and release. Uh, and

00:15:25.180 it, it, it guaranteed roughly 2 million illegals a year. Like they were grandfathered in at 150,000

00:15:34.140 people a month. They keep repeating this lie. Oh, there was a bill that would have fixed the border,

00:15:39.500 but Trump was opposed to it. The bill would not have fixed the border in any way. It's a, it's a total

00:15:46.140 fraud. Um, again, Tim Walsh with the Trump wants to tax, uh, wants to cut taxes on billionaires. No,

00:15:53.820 Trump cut taxes across the board on everyone. And in fact, it was the, it was the middle class, uh,

00:16:02.060 middle income, uh, taxpayers who got the greatest tax break. So the tax reduction for those in the

00:16:08.540 middle brackets was between 15 and 30%. Your average billionaire got about a 1% reduction in

00:16:14.780 their taxes. This is just one of those lies that they just keep repeating over and over and over again.

00:16:20.460 I want to say a little something about this. So when they talk about corporations and they

00:16:24.620 try to paint it like, um, AT and T or something like that, everybody, if you have, if you get a,

00:16:31.260 if me, if I sell merchandise, I have to get an LLC, I have to get a business. I have to get a license,

00:16:36.780 a sales tax ID number just to get a business account at a bank. So if I just want to sell t-shirts

00:16:42.780 online and I get an LLC, I'm a corporation. And there's hundreds and thousands of millions of

00:16:48.860 people like that that run small businesses that are corporations. Cause you have to,

00:16:53.100 if you're going to be a S core, C core LLC, if you want a business license, uh, if you want a

00:16:58.780 business bank account and you have to have a tax ID number, you have to do all these things.

00:17:03.580 And so a lot of these corporations that they want to tax are, are, uh, startups,

00:17:09.180 people with one employee, them working themselves, 10 employees. It affects millions of people.

00:17:15.420 It doesn't hurt the big rich billionaires and stuff. They'll find a way out of it,

00:17:19.020 or they'll pass their cost along. It hurts the middle class and people starting up businesses.

00:17:24.620 All right, Troy, let's, uh, let's run some video from last night and, uh, get cat turds, uh,

00:17:29.980 opinion on them as well as mine. Well, Roger, you know, there was, uh, I think the defining

00:17:34.780 moment of this debate, uh, for Tim Walsh was, uh, the instance, and this was the most bizarre

00:17:40.300 to part of the part of the debate. No one can question this. Uh, when he was asked about lying

00:17:44.780 about Tiananmen square, he claimed that he was in China when Tiananmen square happened. Now he's

00:17:50.140 had a record of exaggerating things in the past as a member of the veterans affairs committee.

00:17:55.740 He claimed that he had PTSD from being in Afghanistan, which he never was in. Uh,

00:18:00.460 he claimed that he had deployed to Iraq. He's claimed multiple times that he's carried weapons of

00:18:04.700 war in war. Uh, and, and now apparently he's exaggerating this trip to China, of which he's

00:18:09.820 made apparently 33 trips. Uh, so let's play the clip last night of when he was confronted about this.

00:18:16.460 And he, as cats had pointed out earlier, calls himself a knucklehead and admits that he pretty

00:18:21.820 much did flat out lie about being at Tiananmen square. Let's roll that clip. Governor Walz,

00:18:27.820 you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen square protests in the spring of 1989.

00:18:34.060 But Minnesota public radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't

00:18:38.700 travel to Asia until August of that year. Can you explain that discrepancy? Yeah. Well,

00:18:45.580 and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I, uh, I grew up in small rural

00:18:50.380 Nebraska, uh, town of 400, town that you rode your bike with your buddies till the streetlights come on.

00:18:55.580 And I'm proud of that service. I joined the national guard at 17, worked on family farms,

00:19:00.700 and then I use the GI bill to become a teacher passionate about it, a young teacher. Uh, my

00:19:06.380 first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of 89, uh, to travel to China 35 years ago,

00:19:11.740 be able to do that. I came back home and then started a program to take young people there.

00:19:17.660 We would take basketball teams. We would take baseball teams. We would take dancers and we

00:19:21.980 would go back and forth to China. The issue for that was, was to try and learn. Now,

00:19:25.980 look, my community knows who I am. They saw where I was at. They look, I, I will be the first to tell

00:19:32.060 you, I have poured my heart into my community. I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been

00:19:36.940 perfect. And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that. Those same people elected me

00:19:42.300 to Congress for 12 years. And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people working on things

00:19:48.460 like farm bills that we got done working on veterans benefits. And then the people of Minnesota

00:19:53.580 were able to elect me to governor twice. So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make

00:19:59.100 sure that I'm there for the people to make sure that I get this right. I will say more than anything. Many

00:20:04.700 times I, uh, I will talk a lot. I will get caught up in the rhetoric. Um, but being there, the impact it

00:20:11.180 made, the difference it made in my life. I learned a lot about China. I hear the critiques of this. I

00:20:15.740 would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us. I guarantee you,

00:20:20.300 he wouldn't be, uh, praising Xi Jinping about COVID. And I guarantee you, he wouldn't start

00:20:25.820 a trade war that he ends up losing. So this is about trying to understand the world. It's about

00:20:31.020 trying to do the best you can for your community. And then it's putting yourself out there and

00:20:35.340 letting your folks understand what it is. My commitment, whether it be through teaching,

00:20:39.180 which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress,

00:20:43.900 those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.

00:20:46.380 Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy?

00:20:53.260 All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this. So I, I will just,

00:20:58.620 that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in. And

00:21:07.260 from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in, in governance.

00:21:11.180 Uh, so in other words, he lied. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of words just to say, yeah,

00:21:18.380 I lied, didn't it? Yeah, it sure was. And then, uh, first of all, this whole, uh,

00:21:23.500 I thought he was going to tell us he grew up in a middle-class family where everybody cared

00:21:27.260 with their law. It was worse. It was worse. And then lastly, he learned how to govern by

00:21:34.140 looking at the red Chinese. I mean, I think this is a very legitimate issue. Based on my research,

00:21:39.100 he's been to China 33 times in the late, uh, 19, uh, in the late nineties and early two thousands.

00:21:46.300 Uh, and this is how it works. You, they bring you over there. Who's paying for that? First of all,

00:21:51.180 I can tell you the Chinese communist party. Uh, and then they, you start bringing people over

00:21:57.340 for indoctrination. Uh, you now have a house committee, uh, investigating his ties to communist

00:22:04.860 China, uh, a great report, uh, which I think is credible by somebody who was there with him,

00:22:10.140 who said he was going around buying up copies of little Mao's little red book during the cultural

00:22:16.540 revolution. Uh, this guy's like, this guy looks to me like a Chinese asset is what he looks like.

00:22:24.380 Well, and, uh, Roger, I want to know, you know, what family farms he was working on,

00:22:27.900 because whoever it is, they better check their horses. Cause we know this guy,

00:22:30.780 he's a, he's an oddball, a catcher. What did you think about that exchange? I mean,

00:22:35.420 the idea that he just completely lied about Tiananmen square, it shows this guy just lies

00:22:39.020 about everything. Doesn't he? He, he lies every time he opens his mouth, this guy. I mean,

00:22:43.180 so does Kamala. I mean, like she did, she didn't work at McDonald's. And if you lie about all these

00:22:46.620 little things, you'll lie about everything, but no, he just, uh, um, that was the strangest answer,

00:22:52.860 you know? I mean, and who does that in a real life? Have y'all ever had any conversation with

00:22:56.780 anybody in your real life. It does that. I'm like, Hey Roger, uh, uh, you want to go to dinner

00:23:00.940 tonight? Well, uh, the price of eggs in China. And, uh, I used to live in a, on a farmhouse in 1963.

00:23:07.580 And I mean, my God, it's just, it's so ridiculous. And surely people see through that.

00:23:14.060 Yeah, I agree. All right. Troy, let's roll another clip. Well, we have, uh, let's, uh, we could,

00:23:20.540 we stick with walls here. I have another clip of him, uh, basically refusing to say if he supports

00:23:25.260 any limits, uh, to abortion. I wanted to ask you guys about this because, uh, this was a issue

00:23:30.380 that was brought up again and again last night. And, uh, I thought that JD Vance kind of illustrated

00:23:35.180 the idea that the Democrats really are the party that have, uh, radical stances when it comes to

00:23:39.980 abortion. And the fact that Tim Walz, you know, refuses really to acknowledge that there are states

00:23:45.900 where you can have an abortion basically up until the moment of birth, um, at least eight states in

00:23:50.860 this country is pretty, uh, concerning. I think it speaks to what maybe the Democrats would like

00:23:55.340 to implement across the country. So let's roll that clip and get your guys thoughts on

00:23:58.700 the abortion issue last night and, uh, see what Walsh has to say.

00:24:02.860 Senator, would you like to respond and also answer the question about restrictions?

00:24:06.220 Yeah, well, the question got asked and Donald Trump made the accusation that wasn't true about

00:24:11.340 Minnesota. Well, let me tell you about this idea that there's diverse states. There's a young woman

00:24:16.620 named Amber Thurman. She happened to be in Georgia, a restrictive state because of that. She had to

00:24:22.140 travel a long distance to North Carolina to try and get her care. Amber Thurman died in that journey

00:24:31.180 back and forth. The fact of the matter is how can we as a nation say that your life and your rights

00:24:39.020 as basic as the right to control your own body is determined on geography. There's a very real chance

00:24:46.460 had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota. She would be alive today. That's why the restoration of Roe

00:24:52.620 versus Wade. When you listen to Vice President Harris talk about this subject and you hear me talk about

00:24:56.780 it, you hear us talking exactly the same. Donald Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political

00:25:02.460 right. I agree with a lot of what Senator Vance said about what's happening. His running mate,

00:25:06.700 though, does not. And that's the problem. Governor, your time.

00:25:09.420 Uh, yeah. Still didn't answer the question again. Still didn't answer it.

00:25:13.980 No, and he's lying. I mean, the truth of the matter is, again, it's not that the law says

00:25:21.180 you can have abortion in the eighth or ninth month or that the law says that the baby can

00:25:28.780 be born alive and then be left to die. It doesn't speak to it. In other words, it puts no limits on

00:25:35.020 abortion, which is the same thing. A great piece last night in real time during the debate from PJ

00:25:42.140 media says there were at least eight aborted babies were born alive and then left to die in

00:25:48.300 Minnesota. Uh, once again, this guy just, they just lie. They ball-flakes lie. And they, I guess they

00:25:55.500 think that nobody will pick them up on it. This is a, this is an important issue. We saw the same thing

00:26:02.380 in the debate with Trump. They said there are no states where there are, there are abortions in the

00:26:07.580 eighth and ninth month. In fact, we know there were at least 10,000 abortions nationally last year in

00:26:13.580 the eighth or ninth month. And there are at least eight states. This isn't me saying it's Axios, not

00:26:19.180 exactly friends of ours, uh, who admit that there are eight states that put no limit on abortion, meaning

00:26:25.900 a child can be born and then be put to death, uh, as the governor of Virginia got caught, you know,

00:26:33.820 saying famously, uh, on tape. They continue to demagogue this issue. Actually, I think it's the

00:26:40.620 only issue they have really. Uh, they keep insisting that Trump will sign a federal abortion ban,

00:26:47.660 which he's always been opposed to, which he won't sign. Uh, they continue to imply that he's going to

00:26:53.740 take away women's birth control. He's not. They keep implying that he's against, uh, IVF and, uh,

00:27:00.540 fertility drugs. He's not. They're demagoguing this issue, uh, and their entire focus on running a

00:27:08.620 completely woman focused, uh, strategic campaign, I think is really, really obvious. They don't have

00:27:15.740 anything else to talk about. And even then they have to distort Trump's position.

00:27:20.700 Well, exactly, Roger. And there was a fantastic response. I want to go to Cat's heard right after

00:27:24.780 this to get his thoughts on, on this rebuttal from J.D. Vance, because as you saw there,

00:27:28.620 uh, Tim Walsh alluded to a response that was made by J.D. Vance. And we have that response,

00:27:33.260 uh, now where he talks about where he would like to see the Republican Party go

00:27:37.340 in terms of fertility treatments and things like that, kind of reaffirming what Roger

00:27:41.980 just told you. So let's roll that and then go to Cat's heard on his thoughts on J.D. Vance's handling

00:27:45.980 this issue last night. I grew up in a working class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young

00:27:50.220 women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like

00:27:55.260 they didn't have any other options. And you know, I, I, I, one of them is actually very dear to me.

00:28:00.060 And I know she's watching tonight and I love you. And she told me something a couple of years ago

00:28:05.660 that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she

00:28:10.220 was in an abusive relationship. And I think that what I take from that as a Republican who proudly

00:28:15.500 wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable,

00:28:20.620 is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust

00:28:26.620 back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us. And I think that's one of the things

00:28:30.860 that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do. I want us as a Republican Party to be pro-family

00:28:36.940 in the fullest sense of the word. I want us to support fertility treatments. I want us to make it

00:28:41.500 easier for moms to afford to have babies. I want it to make it easier for young families to afford a home

00:28:46.780 so they can afford a place to raise that family. And I think there's so much that we can do

00:28:51.420 on the public policy front just to give women more options. Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very

00:28:57.660 clear that on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country and it's diverse. And

00:29:03.740 California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia. Georgia has a different viewpoint from

00:29:08.540 Arizona. And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make

00:29:15.900 these decisions, let the individual states make their abortion policy. And I think that's what

00:29:20.860 makes the most sense in a very big, a very diverse, and let's be honest, sometimes a very, very messy

00:29:26.860 and divided country.

00:29:27.820 The guy's good, isn't he?

00:29:30.940 Yeah, no, I'm a conservative. The guy is really good. I think last night we saw exactly why he was

00:29:38.380 chosen. Look, I think to a certain extent it's not his fault. But in this brief period since the

00:29:45.020 convention and since the historic decision by Robert Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard to not only just

00:29:51.900 endorse Trump, but really hit the road and work hard for him, and they are both working extraordinarily

00:29:57.420 hard, J.D. Vance got kind of eclipsed. Now, I think he has not only redeemed himself, he's defined

00:30:06.300 himself, and he becomes a gigantic asset for the campaign. The guy is very talented. I actually,

00:30:14.140 I thought he would do very well. Walsh's choice of necktie, huge mistake, enormous mistake. Guy

00:30:21.260 looked like an undertaker. You know, a navy blue suit, you know, a dark blue tie. Guy looked like an

00:30:28.460 undertaker. Catcher, I'm sure you're in your three-piece suit right now. We just can't see us.

00:30:34.300 I am. Yeah, Italian.

00:30:41.100 All right, Troy, what else we got on tap here on the zany governor of Minnesota?

00:30:47.260 Well, you know, Roger, I thought it was, you know, it was incredibly interesting because they did,

00:30:51.580 you point out the difference in the suits. And, you know, J.D. Vance, I wanted to get your opinion,

00:30:56.940 because most of the time when you see these debates, you see the solid color. And I thought

00:31:02.300 that, you know, J.D. Vance's tie had like kind of like a strange like pattern on there. I wanted to

00:31:07.020 ask you about particularly his tie and if you would have gone with a solid color with what he did. I

00:31:12.940 thought it was a good choice, but it was still, it was kind of an interesting choice considering

00:31:16.460 the pattern. You don't usually see that on a debate stage like that. You know, people think these

00:31:20.860 things aren't important, but in fact, they are important. In the, in the first 1960 debate between

00:31:26.460 Richard Nixon and Jack Kennedy, Kennedy wore a dark Navy suit. He also had a deep tan or,

00:31:34.780 of course, a white shirt and did wear a solid tie. But they, Teddy White, the famous author said that

00:31:43.260 Kennedy looked like a bronzed God. Richard Nixon chose a light gray suit, which was not complementary

00:31:51.180 to his complexion. And it doesn't, it doesn't connote strength. If you go to Stone's rules,

00:31:57.500 one of the, one of my most famous rules, you're going for a job interview, wear a Navy blue suit,

00:32:02.940 wear a dark suit. It connotes authority. It connotes seriousness. I think these, these little things do

00:32:13.420 matter. Uh, I thought that again, along with his tone, which was virtually perfect last night. Uh,

00:32:20.860 I thought, uh, I thought he, he looked great. He looked the part of a vice president. Uh, he's one

00:32:26.380 of those guys who's always going to look much younger than he really is without the beard. Uh,

00:32:31.980 he looks, uh, even younger. Uh, but I think, uh, generally speaking, I don't love beards on politicians.

00:32:37.900 Uh, Ulysses S. Grant probably would have disagreed with me. Maybe Abe Lincoln, uh, Rutherford B. Hayes.

00:32:44.220 Those guys would probably say I was wrong, but, uh, I think the beard kind of works for him. Uh,

00:32:49.740 and I think it probably goes over well in, in rural America. I think that the generational thing here

00:32:57.020 is very important. Look, his running mate is what? 78 years old. Uh, and, uh, I think he's as vigorous,

00:33:03.820 uh, as ever. Uh, one of the questions Troy asked me last week because the, the Harris campaign is

00:33:10.940 always implying that Trump is somehow missing a step. I've spent a lot of time with him. I guarantee

00:33:17.260 you that I'd see no evidence of that. His, his weight is down a little bit. His mood is really good.

00:33:23.500 Uh, I see no slippage in him whatsoever. He's the same guy I knew 45 years ago. It's really quite

00:33:31.020 amazing. Uh, when you consider his diet, uh, and the fact that, you know, uh, his regimen is golf,

00:33:37.500 where he usually rides in the cart. Uh, he's still in amazingly good shape. Remember both of his parents

00:33:43.500 lived into their mid nineties. His father was still going to the office in his mid nineties. Uh, he comes

00:33:50.220 from very, very tough Scottish American stock. Uh, the, uh, that, that whole, the optics last night,

00:33:58.780 I think we're not good for waltz. And then I'm sure cat turned, you saw some of this guy's, uh,

00:34:05.020 facial reactions were just bizarre, just bizarre. He is bizarre. I mean, he has the same mannerisms

00:34:12.860 when he comes down on stage as a drag queen, you know, that's what it reminds me of. And I mean,

00:34:16.780 the, the over flamboyant, everything and waves and, and, and, you know, wrist movements and kicking.

00:34:22.540 I mean, I don't know. And then the, the, and then the most strange thing about how weird he is,

00:34:27.900 he's actually got a wife. It's even weirder. My God, I don't even know what to say about her.

00:34:32.620 I don't have any words for that. Yeah. She makes Hillary Clinton look likable. I mean,

00:34:37.580 it's really, it's really strange. And on Trump's age, you know, most presidents,

00:34:42.620 and I've been around a while I'm 60 and most presidents, I mean, it takes a toll on them and

00:34:46.540 they usually go in there for four years or eight and they look 25 years older after it's done. I mean,

00:34:52.140 look at Bill Clinton right now. I mean, isn't he younger than Trump? I think he is, but yes,

00:34:59.500 but then a lifetime of drug abuse can do that to you. Yeah. Yeah. But, but Trump to me from 2015,

00:35:07.340 when he came on the scene and I don't think he looks any different at all. No, I actually think

00:35:13.420 he looks better. I think he's healthier today than he was. And he's been shot.

00:35:16.860 Yep. Well, and, uh, and as we have,

00:35:23.100 go ahead. I was just gonna say, we have another video. I wanted to go into the next one here

00:35:27.580 because we have, uh, just a few more to get to on, uh, Tim walls, because it was a terrible,

00:35:32.140 uh, performance last night. Uh, even Chris Cuomo, uh, blasted, uh, the moderators, Roger,

00:35:38.460 you mentioned earlier, the three on one scenario that we had last night, uh, where they actually

00:35:43.020 cut off JD Vance's mic. And it goes down to this fact checking because we now have in the debates,

00:35:48.940 these mainstream networks, uh, fact checking. And what that basically means is anything the

00:35:53.180 Republican says that is even, you know, uh, a hundred percent based in truth, they'll say,

00:35:58.380 oh, well, we fact check that it's not true. And anything the Democrats says, no matter how ridiculous,

00:36:02.700 you know, uh, Tim wall sat there last night and said that project 2025 is the agenda of JD Vance

00:36:08.620 and Donald Trump. I didn't see the fact check on that considering Trump has literally nothing to do

00:36:12.780 with project 2025, but, uh, you know, that's, that's kind of the nature of the fact check.

00:36:18.380 So let's go to Chris Cuomo, even Chris Cuomo blasting the moderators last night for, uh,

00:36:24.220 the bias against JD Vance. And then Roger will go to you and Katzer to figure out, you know,

00:36:28.460 what you guys thought about this bias, because it looked a little better to ABC than me,

00:36:32.540 but it was still, uh, a little egregious. Let's roll that.

00:36:35.980 When they were talking at one point, Vance wanted to correct something about how Haitians

00:36:41.180 got into this country and he was right. And the moderators wouldn't let him correct it.

00:36:46.140 It's very interesting, but thank you, Senator. We have so much to get to.

00:36:49.900 I think it's important because the rules were that you guys are going to fact check. And since

00:36:56.140 you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.

00:36:59.660 Thank you, Senator. That is the facilitation of a legal immigration,

00:37:02.380 Margaret, by our own leadership.

00:37:03.500 Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. We have so much to get to, Senator.

00:37:09.020 Those laws have been on the books since 1990.

00:37:11.420 Thank you, gentlemen.

00:37:12.620 The CBT app has not been on the books since 1990. It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret.

00:37:18.780 Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.

00:37:22.620 Well, there you have it. And look, Vance was right. OK, there's nuance to it. But the bigger

00:37:32.780 problem is why he was moved on. We've got so much to get to. This is who? You know what I mean?

00:37:38.060 Like what? What is the schedule here? So you have a list of topics. That's not what it's about.

00:37:41.900 It's about how the American people can access these two men and the two theories and the narratives.

00:37:48.060 And you've got to let them have their speech because now you created a story where you're the problem.

00:37:53.420 Yeah, really egregious and kind of evocative of what they exactly did at ABC.

00:37:59.740 Anytime they tell a lie and you want to then correct the lie, well, then you're out of line.

00:38:05.580 Turn off his mic. Of course, we could hear him. That was the that was the great part.

00:38:11.100 Really obnoxious. The other part I really hated was that whole exchange on on climate change when she

00:38:18.300 just stated at the end scientists overwhelmingly agree that climate change is a problem.

00:38:25.180 OK, right. What scientists in this whole trust the experts? Those are the people who told us

00:38:31.260 the covid-19 vaccination was not only safe and effective, but if you took it,

00:38:36.860 you absolutely could not be infected with covid-19. That was a lie. These are the people who told us

00:38:43.740 that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, that he had yellow cake uranium

00:38:50.620 and that and that Iraq was involved in 9-11. Those were all lies. It is the experts told us that if

00:39:01.500 Donald Trump was elected president in 2016, the stock market will crash and we'll have World War

00:39:07.500 Three. Well, we had a record stock market and he's the only president in modern times who didn't start

00:39:14.540 any new foreign wars. So, I mean, this whole trust the experts thing, I think, is ridiculous.

00:39:22.700 Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so she also she also we got to get some we got to get some important stuff

00:39:29.740 like January six, the climate change hoax and we can't talk about immigration and that's over.

00:39:35.820 You know, you can't answer about that. But, you know, so climate change is a hoax.

00:39:39.420 It's always been a lie. They've been coming up with this ever since I've been young.

00:39:43.500 It's it's always something to try to scare everybody. It's the ozone layer. It's acid rain.

00:39:48.140 It's it's the ice age is coming. And I and and they're like, the sea levels are rising.

00:39:53.100 The sea levels aren't rising. You know why I know for a fact, because I live in this world

00:39:57.900 and I live in Florida and I've been living down here for 40, you know, coming on 40 years now.

00:40:02.300 And I shore fish. I'm a big shore fisherman. I got I fished the intercoastals. I fished the beaches.

00:40:07.100 I fished the bays and I fished tides because you got to fish tides when you want to catch trout

00:40:11.900 and redfish and flounder. And I know the tides and the same areas I've fished for 40 years.

00:40:17.260 They're not getting any higher. None of them are. If anything, the oceans receded since I've,

00:40:22.620 you know, since decades ago, it's just all a big scam. It's all a big lie.

00:40:28.700 Yeah, it really extraordinary their attitude is all that kind of snotty elitism that is really, really annoying.

00:40:35.820 All right. We're going to go to a quick commercial break, then we'll be right back with our guest cat turd.

00:40:41.980 We appreciate his time. And he's as always, he's looking great this morning with this hurricane.

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00:44:27.980 Cat Turd, looking great this morning as always, and Troy Smith. Troy, what else we got here in the video arcade?

00:44:37.900 Well, Roger, before we get out of here, I definitely have another question for you, but we did want to get some reactions

00:44:43.420 to the debate last night, and one of the best things was watching MSNBC afterwards because,

00:44:49.580 as we know, I mean, the Democrat Party, MSNBC, they're basically two peas in a pod, a simpatico,

00:44:56.300 if that's what you want to call them, and they just had a real tough time after this debate because

00:45:01.260 they watched their beloved Tim Walls pretty much tied up to a tree and bashed with a shovel. So let's

00:45:07.980 watch Nicole Wallace last night having an epic meltdown after this debate, freaking out because

00:45:14.060 I think the Democrats are realizing this guy is a liability. Roger, you said it right away.

00:45:19.420 It's now coming to fruition. Let's roll that clip. It's the audacity. I agree with you that we're in

00:45:25.740 year nine and no one knows how to cover the audacity. The audacity is that someone should have said,

00:45:31.100 stop it. Stop. Stop. Are you effing kidding me? And they should have, they should have dropped that

00:45:36.780 F-bomb, right? I mean, they should have just, we, this is a debate. This may be the only chance people

00:45:41.820 have to see the difference. She really is violent. Didn't she work for George W. Bush, I think?

00:45:50.940 That they cannot, they can't conceal their contempt for anybody who doesn't see the world their way.

00:46:00.700 This is the worst, worst form of elitism. But I do think overall, the left in this country is freaking

00:46:08.620 out. I mean, they realize they have the weakest possible candidate. I didn't like that exchange on

00:46:16.620 January 6th or about the election quite simply for two reasons. First of all, under the electoral,

00:46:24.700 I'm not a lawyer, but I have talked to enough smart lawyers under the Electoral College Act. It is

00:46:29.180 neither illegal nor unconstitutional to have an alternative elector. John F. Kennedy had them in 1960.

00:46:36.460 It's a good thing for it that he did because when the votes were all counted, his electors rather

00:46:42.300 than those certified by the legislature were ultimately ceded. So this is just a made up crime

00:46:49.420 by the talking legal, talking head legal analysts at MSNBC. Also, I would point you to the 1877 election

00:46:58.700 in which both candidates had alternative electors in multiple states. It was a, was a major political

00:47:06.300 crisis in the country at the time. And then secondarily, they talk about democracy. I do think,

00:47:15.340 as much as I think Vance did a great job last night, he failed to note that there's no democracy

00:47:21.500 whatsoever in the selection of Kamala Harris. Not a single Democrat primary or caucus voter voted for this

00:47:30.220 woman. Joe Biden got 17 million votes. He got 71% of the, of the vote in the primaries. At least he was

00:47:38.780 actually nominated by real people. Where's the democracy in her selection and ascension? It doesn't

00:47:45.420 even exist. And they just keep right on moving down the road. Oh, Trump is a threat to democracy. No,

00:47:51.260 there's no democracy in their party at all.

00:47:53.340 Absolutely not. Roger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they don't even vote. They don't even vote for

00:48:01.420 their primary anymore. Let's, I mean, let's go back, you know, uh, Joe was losing and losing badly

00:48:07.180 and they all just decided to drop out and give it to him. So they really didn't have a choice in that

00:48:11.500 election either. So, I mean, have they just stopped voting now in the Democrat party? And by the way,

00:48:17.420 that Nicole Wallace between her and the two moderators, it's not really making me want to

00:48:23.020 have the first female president. I'll tell you that right now.

00:48:26.940 Well, I mean, Joy Reed, let's face it. If her, her IQ was one point lower,

00:48:31.580 you'd have to water her like a leaf blower.

00:48:37.180 It's really pretty incredible. All right, Troy.

00:48:39.740 And so we have about, uh, uh, 10 minutes left here, folks. And I just wanted to, you know,

00:48:45.100 because last night, I think ironed out the future of the Republican party for a lot of people. I'm

00:48:50.140 seeing a lot of people saying, wow, we're excited now for JD Vance. We're excited to see his development

00:48:56.460 as a politician. Uh, and that leads me to, uh, the question, which is about, you know, regardless of

00:49:01.500 what has, what happens in this election. And I, of course, you know, if, if JD Vance were to be the

00:49:06.460 sitting vice president, it would certainly boost his chances. Uh, but I think post Trump last night's

00:49:12.700 debate kind of showed that JD Vance is the guy. Now I thought that when he selected Vance, uh,

00:49:19.260 but I think it was, it's taken the public a little bit of time to catch up with that. We talked about

00:49:23.500 it here on the show. So Roger, I want to ask you, did JD Vance cement himself as Donald Trump's, uh,

00:49:29.980 eventual replacement, uh, when we get to that time last night and if he did not, you know, who do you,

00:49:35.420 who do you think else is in play there? How do you think this thing shakes out?

00:49:39.580 You know, Troy in politics, uh, a week is a lifetime. You can't predict something that's

00:49:44.700 going to happen next week. Nevermind next year. Nevermind four years from now. Uh,

00:49:49.260 now in our party, uh, the Republican party, we do believe in hegemony. We believe in waiting your

00:49:54.620 turn. This is why we nominated Bob Dole, who I loved, who I worked for in the Senate, uh, but

00:50:00.460 passed, uh, his past his prime, we nominated John McCain past his prime. That's because they were

00:50:07.580 the first runner up in the previous nomination contest. So it was kind of their turn. Uh, but

00:50:13.900 just as Donald Trump has changed all the rules about politics, we never had a business person

00:50:19.180 as president before. Every president had been a governor, a senator, a congressman, or a general.

00:50:24.700 We never had somebody who came from the world of business. So I think he's broken, uh, all of the

00:50:30.140 rules. Uh, yes, uh, a sitting vice president, uh, assuming that JD Vance serves with distinction,

00:50:36.940 uh, and burnishes his reputation in four years as vice president, which I think he would probably be

00:50:43.900 the front runner for, uh, for the nomination. But, uh, uh, look, uh, I I'm worried about another

00:50:50.460 assassination attempt on Donald Trump, to be honest with you, as the left gets more apoplectic,

00:50:56.060 as they get more hysterical, as they get more, uh, threatened, uh, uh, and they realize they can't

00:51:01.980 win this election or can't steal it. Uh, I'm afraid they're going to try to kill him again. I pray about

00:51:07.420 this every night. It's my single greatest fear. They have tried twice. Somebody has tried twice.

00:51:14.060 Meanwhile, you have this disconnect where they say, yeah, there've been these two, these two

00:51:19.340 attempts on Trump. Uh, those guys were both acting alone. They're just lone nuts acting alone,

00:51:25.900 but, but the Iranians, they're, they're trying to kill Trump, not connecting the two attempts,

00:51:31.740 uh, on, uh, on, uh, to the Iranians for which they make again, accusations, but we haven't seen

00:51:39.180 the evidence. There's a logic to it. You can see why the Iranians would want Donald Trump dead. I

00:51:44.620 can't deny that, but let's go back to what you just said, Kat Turd. Looking at Butler, Pennsylvania,

00:51:50.380 and looking at West Palm Beach, uh, the chances that these guys were acting alone or that the,

00:51:55.900 the FBI didn't know who either one of them were in advance seems very slim to me.

00:52:01.740 Well, and no chance to me at all. None. Yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's very, uh, it's kind of reminds

00:52:11.580 me of the Kennedy assassination, 1963. In other words, I don't think we're ever going to really

00:52:15.180 get the answer. Uh, information just kind of drips out more and more and more. So a great clip of, uh,

00:52:22.700 of, uh, uh, an Arizona Congressman yesterday. Uh, we're not even sure who, what, what shooter hit

00:52:30.940 the alleged, uh, uh, assassin would be assassin, uh, in, in Palm Beach, but I'm not sure if it was,

00:52:37.500 uh, uh, a local police officer and then the, the secret service counter, uh, sniper. One thing is

00:52:45.820 clear and that is they let this guy get eight shots off before they took him out. That's not what the,

00:52:52.140 that's not what the manual says. Uh, it's really, really curious. Uh, uh, and it's, it's my number

00:52:58.700 one worry. People say I'm going to win the election. I keep saying, we have to pray for

00:53:02.460 Trump's survival. These people are maniacs. They're just maniacs. I agree. And to your other point,

00:53:09.980 um, I, I agree with you that there's always, you know, in four years, you can't predict,

00:53:14.300 there's always somebody who comes out of left field, right? That we're not even talking about,

00:53:17.580 won't be talking about in two years. You know, there's always a VVIC or somebody that just

00:53:21.020 comes out of nowhere. And, um, so you just have to, you just have to see.

00:53:27.180 Yeah, I agree. It's too, it's too far to, uh, to project, but look, he did himself a huge amount

00:53:33.740 of good last night, but more importantly, he did the ticket, uh, a huge amount of good.

00:53:39.900 His crowds will now be bigger. The media attention to his local appearances will now be better. One

00:53:46.460 thing we do know, he won't be eating at Primanti brothers, which is good because he won't have to

00:53:53.820 have some of the worst pizza you've ever had in your entire life. Yeah. And how do you,

00:53:58.860 how do you screw up a pizza too? Seriously? Well, pizza's like sex, you know, even when it's bad,

00:54:04.300 still pretty good. Uh, but in this particular case, I've been to Primanti brothers is there's two of them

00:54:11.020 within two miles of where I live. Yeah. Three 30 in the morning. Cause one of them is open 24 hours.

00:54:17.500 Uh, when you're starved and there's nothing else, it's, it's passable, but their big thing is the

00:54:23.340 sandwich. Uh, cause they put your French fries, uh, in your coleslaw inside your sandwich. Now,

00:54:30.300 John Fetterman likes this. I mean, to each his own, I guess, but, uh, I, it's a chain. It's not the,

00:54:37.180 there are no Primanti brothers, or if they are there long gone, uh, uh, Laura Loomer kind of came

00:54:42.780 up with the receipts, proving that the, that the corporate owners here, big Democrats, big left of

00:54:48.620 center, never Trumpers. Uh, but it is interesting to me that Tim Walsh was able to go to a Primanti's

00:54:55.420 location, uh, and greet his supporters, but they would not let JD Vance do so. Also one of the Vance

00:55:02.460 advance men told me, yeah, they knew how we were coming. They had no problem with it. Uh,

00:55:06.780 we were there in advance. So this was a little bit of a setup in my opinion.

00:55:12.540 Yep. They took a hit. We nailed them on social media. Yes, we, yes, we did. The, uh, not the

00:55:21.340 Italian American civil rights league, uh, uh, passed a resolution condemning them because it makes all

00:55:26.620 Italians look bad. Uh, it was a pretty big story. In fact, I think slingshot.news, uh, carried that

00:55:33.420 story. All right. Well, we are pretty much out of time. I want to thank our guest, uh, the great cat

00:55:39.740 turd. Uh, this is guy has one of the few feeds on X, which used to be known as Twitter, where I

00:55:46.620 actually laugh out loud at some of his, uh, uh, some of his conclusions tells you to it straight.

00:55:53.180 Uh, he is, uh, he is, uh, a great lover of animals. My wife and I are dog people. So we

00:55:59.420 love this. We've taken many strays over the years. Uh, and, uh, this is, this shows you have a good

00:56:06.460 heart. My friend, this shows that you are a, you're a great human being. I know you're a great

00:56:10.700 patriot. And what I love is there's no pussyfooting around. You tell people exactly what you think. So if

00:56:17.020 you're not following cat turd, uh, if you're one of the few people who isn't following cat turd on,

00:56:23.020 uh, on, on X for me, known as Twitter, you really ought to do so just for the, just for the laughs

00:56:29.500 and for the, and for the truth. Uh, and then of course, I want to remind you all that, you know,

00:56:34.220 we're here on rumble. Uh, you should go to the, uh, rumble app, uh, and, uh, sign up, uh,

00:56:41.500 we're at, uh, of course at stone, we're at rumble.com slash stone zone. You can follow us.

00:56:47.260 You see the follow button over there on the right. Uh, so set it up in your phone and then

00:56:52.300 set the notifications, uh, so that you'll be able to, uh, know when we're on the air, uh,

00:56:58.940 on behalf of myself, uh, and our cohost, Troy Smith, want to thank our guest, uh, the great cat turd.

00:57:05.500 Thank you. And God bless you. And, uh, well, we'll see you tomorrow.

00:57:09.100 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going, and he's smart, and he's strong,

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - October 02, 2024

The Triumph of Vance & Humiliation of Walz – w⧸ Catturd

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