The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - February 28, 2024


Trump Notches Historic Michigan Primary Victory! When Will Nikki Haley Fold?


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58 minutes

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166.70688

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Summary

In this episode of The Stone Zone, host Troy Smith fills in for the legendary Roger Stone, who is in Michigan covering the results of the Michigan Republican Primary. In this episode, Stone explains why Nikki Haley failed to get over 300,000 votes and failed to achieve 30% of the vote, and why this is not surprising. He also points to a similar situation to the one we saw in Nevada and explains why the Haley campaign should have been worried about losing to Joe Biden in the primary and why they should have focused on other candidates instead of focusing on Donald Trump and Nikki Haley. Stone also points out that in Michigan, there were no Democratic primary voters and therefore, there was no "No Option" option, which is what happened in Nevada. In other words, no one had a choice other than to vote for Joe Biden. But in Michigan there was a "no option" option. And more people chose to vote against Nikki Haley than voted for Donald Trump. And that's not a bad thing, considering there was only one option on the ballot, which was called "No Choice" and no one else had a chance to make a decision other than either vote for either of them. But it's not like there was even a No Choice option. Even no option beats Nikki Haley by a significant margin. But she gets obliterated by Joe Biden by a 2-to-1 margin, which means she doesn't just loses by a lot of votes, she gets destroyed by a lack of a choice, she's not just no option. she's destroyed by Biden's lack of one, but she's crushed by a candidate who has no option, she has no chance at all of a chance at winning the nomination at all even no option and she gets crushed by no option! . - What does this mean for Nikki Haley's chances of winning the primary? What does it mean for her chances of actually being a serious contender in the 2020 election? - Is there any chance of a second chance at the nomination? of a primary that's going to be much better than Joe Biden's? or is she going to have a shot at a primary challenger in 2020 at all-choice or not even a chance of winning a primary with a third party primary that s going to get any chance to run against Joe Biden? , and does she have any chance at a runoff in the Democratic primary - and what does that really matter?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.240 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.300 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald
00:00:16.000 Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:20.960 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the
00:00:26.020 Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,
00:00:31.160 Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:39.380 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Troy Smith, and I will be filling in today for the legendary
00:00:44.380 Roger Stone. You can catch us here every single day of the week, Monday through Friday, at 8 p.m.
00:00:50.600 on the Stone Zone and some other channels. We also broadcast this on Twitter.
00:00:54.300 But today, I'm honored to have the slot here because we are talking about another historic
00:01:00.880 victory for former President Donald Trump in Michigan last night. We're going to put up
00:01:05.840 the results here of the Republican primary. Donald Trump taking over three-quarters of a million votes,
00:01:13.940 while Nikki Haley failing to reach the 300,000 mark and also failing to achieve 30% of the vote.
00:01:21.000 Now, we talked about this in detail yesterday, talking about the idea that South Carolina and
00:01:28.240 New Hampshire, who have open primaries and who the Haley campaign specifically targeted Democrat
00:01:34.680 voters in these states to get them to vote for Nikki Haley in order to boost her numbers and to make
00:01:40.920 her look like she was more of a formidable candidate than she really is. She failed last night.
00:01:46.360 And as we see in those results, we could put those up just one more time. The uncommitted vote
00:01:52.600 was 33,373. So we're talking about a serious portion of Nikki Haley's votes. And if you compare
00:02:00.140 that to Trump's, really, you know, you're talking about a very small percentage. And I think it's
00:02:03.860 important to point out that in Michigan, you don't have the open primaries that you do in a lot of
00:02:08.960 other places. So while everybody's kind of focusing, of course, Nikki Haley is the darling of the
00:02:15.560 mainstream media. And of course, like we talked about yesterday as well, they want to highlight
00:02:22.020 the Haley-Trump race and make it more than it really is because they want to distract you from
00:02:29.000 President Joe Biden. They don't want you to see him eating an ice cream cone, talking about Israel and
00:02:35.160 Hamas and kind of mumbling to himself looking confused. They don't want you to see the reality
00:02:39.900 there. They want to obfuscate that and instead cover Trump Haley as if there's really a chance
00:02:46.020 that she could possibly beat Donald Trump. And I think if there is anything that indicates this
00:02:52.120 better than anything, it was her results in the Nevada Republican primary. For those that don't
00:02:56.580 remember, the Nevada Republican primary meant absolutely nothing. There were no delegates assigned
00:03:02.560 to it. Yet the Haley campaign decided that they were going to put their assets into that primary
00:03:07.800 instead of doing the Nevada caucus, which Trump focused on. Trump obviously swept the delegates
00:03:13.420 at the Nevada caucus because he had no competition really other than Ryan Binkley, who has actually
00:03:18.840 dropped out and endorsed Trump now. But in that primary, Nikki Haley was destroyed by a similar thing
00:03:26.160 that we just saw with uncommitted voters, although it was called a no option. So there was an option
00:03:32.220 on the ballot where you could vote for no candidate, no candidate option. And more people chose that
00:03:37.460 by two to one margin than vote for Nikki Haley. That shows that when there's not Democrat voters,
00:03:45.160 there's no Democrat advertising going out to juice Nikki Haley, MSNBC basically running advertising for
00:03:53.360 her 24-7. A lot of other news outlets running ads for her basically 24-7 campaign ads. The Biden White
00:04:00.520 House putting out her campaign ads. When that all goes away and Nikki Haley is left to actual Republican
00:04:06.500 voters, she loses. And she doesn't just lose, she gets obliterated by even no option. Even no option
00:04:12.740 beats her. But I would like to put up, because this was really lost on many people, and it wasn't really
00:04:17.960 talked about in the mainstream media. We tried to talk about it at Slingshot News. Slingshot.news is
00:04:23.400 where you can find my work as of right now. But we're going to put up the Democrat results here.
00:04:29.880 And Joe Biden actually had a very similar situation to what we saw in Nevada for Nikki Haley, where
00:04:36.960 100,000 people in a protest vote that basically centered around Biden's handling of the Middle East
00:04:44.020 and the Israel-Gaza conflict. 100,000 people voted for no candidate, while Biden only got 617,000 votes.
00:04:55.140 Now, I understand for an incumbent, that's a lot. But when you're talking about 13% of the vote going to
00:05:02.020 somebody who's uncommitted, it shows that the predictions of Roger Stone, the predictions of Joel
00:05:08.520 Gilbert, the predictions from so many others, that it won't be Joe Biden that's going to be the
00:05:14.280 nominee in 2024, are looking better and better. They are looking like they're closer to the truth
00:05:20.580 every single day. And this leads me to my next point here, ladies and gentlemen, when we're talking
00:05:26.560 about the 2024 election and the Democrat primary process, because the Democrats have a real problem.
00:05:35.360 And we're going to put up a clip that I found, or a screenshot, I'm sorry, that I found while I was
00:05:42.740 doing research on Biden's approval rating. And what you need to know, basically, is that Biden's
00:05:46.880 approval rating right now stands at 38%. It's an all-time low. The only person that's ever had an
00:05:53.040 approval rating lower than that is Jimmy Carter. But when you're looking at these numbers, these are
00:05:57.360 numbers from November of 2023 to January of 2024. And it tells us the percentage of what's dropping
00:06:07.500 in Biden's approval rating amongst Democrats, Republicans, Independents. And it's very important
00:06:13.900 because as you see, in the categories of Ukraine, Biden has shed 6% support from Democrats in the last
00:06:21.360 five months. When it comes to immigration, Biden has shed 7% of Democrat support. And when it comes
00:06:27.840 to the Middle East, the worst issue that Biden faces amongst his own voters, he's shed 9% of Democrat
00:06:36.000 support for the way he's handled the situation in the Middle East. Now, I would first off, I would say
00:06:42.540 if you're a Democrat, and you didn't lose faith in his handling of the Middle East with the Afghanistan
00:06:48.080 withdrawal, then I'm not sure, you know, what could possibly shake your faith in the Democrat Party.
00:06:54.080 I mean, we had 13 US service members killed in a bombing along with what, 171 or 200 something
00:07:02.120 civilians. If that didn't tell you that the whole Middle East situation under Biden was going to be
00:07:08.480 out of control, I don't know what would. And truth be told, I think there's a lot of issues with
00:07:16.040 the way the Democrats are handling this situation. Because the Democrats, you have to look at it like
00:07:22.520 this, the Republicans go for broad appeal. They really do. The Republicans go for things that they
00:07:27.420 think everybody loves, whether it's taxes, or, you know, monogamy, or, you know, marriage, nuclear
00:07:33.520 family, you know, that kind of classic conservative, you know, the values that we talk about.
00:07:38.900 And the Democrats are much more adept at getting people to pay attention to what they're talking
00:07:45.780 about. And that's evident because if you look at states like Maryland, where I come from, the
00:07:52.780 Democrats have such a stranglehold on literally everything, whether it's education, whether it's
00:07:57.200 the courts, the governor's mansion, the state house, the state senate, you know, I mean, you're talking
00:08:03.160 about total domination. And on a federal level, and now this is a lot of this is due to the corruption
00:08:10.320 within the RNC, which is being fixed. I mean, Ronald McDaniel is stepping down, we're getting
00:08:14.900 change there. But the Democrats are much, much better at fundraising, and kind of bringing people
00:08:21.780 into their party and having an apparatus politically that works. And they do this through a couple
00:08:27.820 different venues. One is they are always focused on local politics. And I think this is a problem
00:08:33.560 for Republicans across the country as we're going into the election here. I see people that are
00:08:38.780 running for Congress in Florida or Maryland, and they're talking about federal issues. And I think
00:08:43.840 federal issues are important. Look, you're going to Congress, you're gonna be obviously dealing with
00:08:46.880 federal issues, but that's not how the Democrats do it. They deal on a local basis. And so, you know,
00:08:54.020 for example, I know somebody who was affected, lost their job when I lived in Maryland, they'd had for
00:09:00.380 30 years. And this person lived in my district, which happened to be the district of Kwaiziumfume,
00:09:07.480 the congressman. And he's a Democrat. And my friend sent a letter to the unemployment office
00:09:17.800 and couldn't get his unemployment. I mean, he was entitled to it, paid his taxes and everything.
00:09:22.840 Couldn't get anything from Governor Larry Hogan, the Republican at the time. And this was before I
00:09:28.480 was politically involved. So I had never even talked about Larry Hogan. I'm just talking about
00:09:32.740 a basis as a citizen who was trying to get something done. We didn't see any movement for
00:09:37.160 my friend until he reached out to Kwaiziumfume's office. They immediately called, they immediately
00:09:42.500 got the situation handled. And that's because Kwaiziumfume wasn't out there talking about federal
00:09:48.240 issues. He was talking about local issues. And you can call that whatever you want, but that's what
00:09:55.400 matters to people and especially voters. So the Republicans have it wrong in that they're constantly
00:10:02.080 focused on federal issues. And while those are important, you have to start locally. And the
00:10:06.340 Democrats have grown their political machine from the local level. That's why they have education.
00:10:11.820 That's why they have the courts. That's why they have everything walled off. Because from beginning
00:10:16.580 to end of child's life, if you don't oversee them, basically, and watch over the ideals they're being
00:10:23.720 talked to about and taught in schools, then they're going to be part of the Democrat machine.
00:10:29.780 That's how pervasive their political strategy has been. So they do it through localization of
00:10:38.500 politics, which I think the Republicans could easily do. And then they also do it through
00:10:44.160 identity politics. Now, when the Republicans have a group, say, like a women's club or a women's
00:10:51.680 federation meeting, and there's these all over the country, I mean, all over the country, every state
00:10:56.860 has them, every county has them, Republican clubs, and they're called Republican clubs. I mean, you can
00:11:02.560 literally look it up because it's called a Republican club. And while the Democrats have Democrat clubs,
00:11:07.960 there are a lot of things that go on, on the local level, I'm talking about events for LGBTQ,
00:11:15.320 events for pro-abortion, events for pro-immigration, events for pro-this, pro-that. They take an event
00:11:23.360 that really has nothing to do with politics, and they use it to get people into politics and say,
00:11:30.480 hey, you're LGBTQ, you don't want to be killed, you got to vote for the Democrats. Now, obviously,
00:11:35.620 that's a lie. And obviously, that's like totally out there. But that's what they do. That's the
00:11:41.360 tactic they use. If you want to, if you don't want a four-year-old kid, or a 14-year-old kid who
00:11:47.900 was raped to be forced to have her child, then you have to vote for the Democrats. Or look at the IVF
00:11:54.540 situation. President Trump comes out in full support of IVF, encourages the Alabama legislature to
00:12:01.420 protect IVF. And the Democrats say, well, it's because of Roe v. Wade. It's because of the
00:12:08.720 Supreme Court justices. It's because of Trump. That's not the case. And may I add, the Supreme
00:12:15.220 Court, it's not supposed to be like Trump sitting there over the Supreme Court dictating what they
00:12:21.320 say. He's supposed to put forth as a nominee the person that he believes best suited to do the job,
00:12:27.300 and then they're there for life on their own accord. He doesn't have any control over what
00:12:31.860 they say. I mean, past the approval process, he doesn't control them. And neither do the, I mean,
00:12:38.180 in concept, that's how things are supposed to work. But the media pointing that out, I mean, like,
00:12:44.040 oh, Trump's judges. No, it just shows they have Obama judges. They have Biden judges. We don't have
00:12:50.900 those people. Because when the conservatives put up people for benches, they try to do it by the
00:12:56.180 letter of the law. Like I said, they're not Merrick Garland beholden to the Obama administration.
00:13:01.180 They're Justice Kavanaugh, who, quite frankly, votes a lot of different ways that I, it's hard for me to
00:13:07.340 get a read on how he's going to vote. Kavanaugh's tough. Gorsuch is pretty consistent. Amy Coney Barrett's
00:13:15.980 a wild card. You don't know where she's going to vote. So he didn't pick these people based on some
00:13:20.680 agenda. He didn't pick these people based on some political motive. He picked them because he thought
00:13:25.200 that they were the best constitutional minds to put on the, on the bench. You can argue their
00:13:29.680 decisions, but you can't sit there and claim that, I mean, especially, especially with the Texas razor
00:13:37.000 wire or any other number of things that, that Coney Barrett sided with the liberal justices on.
00:13:42.040 It shows that these weren't politically motivated choices. They weren't. And, and yet the Democrats,
00:13:48.460 when they put somebody on there, you best believe that they're going to be politically motivated.
00:13:53.000 Um, you know, and, and, and not to mention the fact that they don't even play by the rules.
00:13:57.360 Anyway, this last woman they put on there, Kantage Brown Jackson, that the guy hadn't even left the,
00:14:03.840 the prior justice had not left his position. You can't nominate somebody for a position that's going
00:14:09.500 to be open in the future. You can't do that. It's never been done before. It's completely illegal.
00:14:14.640 And nobody even asked any questions about it. The Democrat house and Senate just passed it. And
00:14:18.520 everyone just said, okay, well, and it's because Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell were on guard at
00:14:23.760 that point and nobody was paying attention. Uh, but how do you have a justice placed into a Supreme
00:14:29.540 court position before the guy even does, if that's the case, then I personally would like to nominate
00:14:35.080 the, uh, I don't know, 110th, a Supreme court justice right now that's coming out of the womb.
00:14:41.440 Let's get newborn babies. Let's get them in Congress. Let's nominate them for the Supreme court. So we can
00:14:46.200 just kind of nominate people ahead of when they're supposed to, you know, why not, why not when you have a
00:14:51.160 Republican house nominate 15 justices. And then when, uh, when a justice dies or leaves the court,
00:14:57.980 you can just put one in, oh, he's already approved. I mean, that's literally what they did and nobody
00:15:02.060 even talks about it. So, uh, you know, folks, it's just, there's so much to talk about as far as
00:15:07.400 the Supreme court and all that. But I think the important point of this entire thing is that
00:15:13.160 Biden's approval rating is slipping. It's slipping big time and it's slipping in key areas that are the
00:15:19.480 news are really focused on because it's what people need to hear. Um, and I, you know, I have
00:15:24.780 to think that that is coordination because we know how much these mainstream media outlets
00:15:28.980 coordinate with each other. We know how much they coordinate with the democratic party to push
00:15:33.440 narratives. And the idea that all of a sudden, you know, I got canceled for, for covering Joe Biden
00:15:38.860 and showing him kind of doddering around and not being able to speak. I got canceled off MSN and
00:15:43.880 Microsoft for that. Um, uh, now NBC does it and they're fine and ABC does it. You can't tell me
00:15:52.480 that that's not a coordinated effort and that's not something that was planned prior. I think it
00:15:56.800 highlights the fact that the Democrats know they put this guy up for election. It's going to be a
00:16:00.380 bloodbath and I'm not, you know, local level, whatever happens, happens. Um, I can see a situation
00:16:06.320 where the Democrats, uh, take back the house and, and strengthen in the Senate and lose the presidency.
00:16:11.580 And I think it's more of a referendum on Biden than anybody. And ultimately, you know, that may
00:16:18.380 be what the establishment wants. Uh, you know, obviously Trump throws a monkey wrench in the
00:16:22.740 whole things. They obviously don't want him, but maybe the establishment wants to kind of pin their
00:16:27.020 problems on Biden and who better somebody who doesn't even know where they are, you know, and
00:16:32.260 you look at the, her investigation, they basically said, I mean, not basically, they said that they
00:16:39.400 weren't going to prosecute him because he was an old man that doesn't even know what's going on.
00:16:44.240 So how are we, you know, Roger makes a good point. I think I've said it myself. If he's not capable
00:16:50.660 of being prosecuted because of his mental problems, then why in the hell has he got his finger on the
00:16:55.460 nuclear buttons? Why is he in the Oval Office? Uh, and, and more importantly, who's doing the
00:17:01.240 presidential duties? I mean, is it Kamala Harris? Is it his chief of staff? I mean, who knows who the
00:17:06.880 hell it is. We don't know. We don't know. And that's, uh, it's a major problem. So, um, we have,
00:17:13.760 we have a lot more stuff we want to get to folks, but as Roger always says, we got to keep the lights
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00:18:43.980 continue to get closer to the 2024 election, we have a segment that we're going to be doing earlier,
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00:18:54.840 about media conglomeration and, and these cuts that are being made to media companies right now
00:19:00.020 heading into 2024. That plays into this folks. And we're going to get back to that in just a second.
00:19:06.580 But I wanted to take time today on the stone zone because we do have, we do have so much going on
00:19:13.760 in the country and so much politically that matters. But I think I wanted to start with something that
00:19:21.900 has been on my mind quite a bit. And I think it's that if you notice some of the times that brought
00:19:30.860 Americans together more than anything are some of our worst times, whether it be 9-11 or even the crash
00:19:38.620 of 2008, I remember people were so helpful to each other. And, and I remember seeing pictures of this
00:19:45.480 from the past when I was in school, when you would see people during the great depression, finding ways
00:19:50.940 to support each other and to help each other. And it's, it's in those times that you see the least
00:19:57.220 amount of political discourse and fighting, political violence. You don't see political violence
00:20:04.160 when things, when, when, when, when, when things are bad. And I'm not talking about, you know, grand
00:20:09.500 chaotic or anarchist stuff. I'm talking about the abortion people or the, you know, the pro or anti
00:20:17.140 abortion people or, or, you know, election, you know, stuff or anything like that. Those are usually the
00:20:24.540 products of good times, which is interesting. But my point is, without an economy that allows people to
00:20:33.660 feed themselves, that allows people to clothe themselves, that allows people to have homes,
00:20:37.960 that allows people leisure, that allows people to live decent, comfortable lives, without that,
00:20:45.540 things get really bad. And the reason that America has kind of been able to be that nice
00:20:52.040 country throughout is, is that you have these big businesses, right? And all these people work for
00:20:57.220 these big businesses, and they always are closing and opening and closing and opening, closing. So
00:21:02.520 there's always this turnover turmoil. And when we have downturn, economic downturn, those things get
00:21:07.560 worse. But because America is a free country, and there's always people who have their own businesses,
00:21:13.900 there's always people that have their own resources, we can kind of come together. But as the downturn gets
00:21:20.720 worse and worse and worse, there's less of those people. And they're less willing to help because
00:21:26.540 they have less resources. And as things get worse and worse and worse. There's, there's no telling what kind of
00:21:35.280 that, that nice thing that we saw during the Depression, or the nice thing that we saw after 9-11, it wouldn't be so nice if
00:21:41.480 everybody was flat broke. The point is, we need money, the government needs income streams that don't come directly from our
00:21:49.200 our pocket, because that's where all the money comes from right now. Now, President Trump did something that was kind of
00:21:56.200 revolutionary, and it's been adapted by many African and other nations since then, is the practice of exporting oil with
00:22:07.200 with tremendous tariffs, and things like that to build government revenue that isn't tax, you know, it's not, it's not
00:22:15.200 raised through taxation, such a huge revolutionary concept. And all of a sudden, the government, in order to grow its
00:22:23.200 scope, and its ability to build infrastructure in some of these nations in Africa, they don't even have electricity, you know, so the
00:22:33.200 government is able to build certain things and do certain things without having to take it from the people. And that's a
00:22:41.200 very important thing. And it's why energy is so important. And it's why somebody like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who I have
00:22:49.360 tremendous respect for, I think is a brilliant man. I've read his books, I think he's fantastic. I would never vote for him
00:22:56.900 for any elective office, because of his policy on fracking, and his policy on energy. Because I think energy is the
00:23:04.900 most important thing in this country. You can't imagine what would happen in this country, if you went to turn on
00:23:12.900 the light switch, and it didn't turn on. And it wasn't just a couple hours, or a couple days, or a couple weeks, it was
00:23:17.900 forever. If we don't have the ability to have electricity, we will descend into absolute anarchy in this country.
00:23:24.900 And it'll be lawless chaos everywhere. Under Joe Biden's policies, under Joe Biden's green policies, that's
00:23:34.900 becoming more and more of a possibility. Because more and more people are being incentivized to get off of
00:23:41.900 fossil fuels. Fossil fuels, we'll talk about more of that in a minute. But more people are being enticed, and
00:23:48.900 especially governments are being enticed to put more of their electric capacity into green energy. And green energy,
00:23:58.900 as we saw in Texas, where, I don't know if people remember this, in 2021, Texas froze over. And Texas actually had a
00:24:08.900 water heater shortage that affected the entire United States. You could not get a water heater in the United
00:24:14.900 States for, I don't know, 10 months, six months, 10 months, somewhere in there. Because every water heater
00:24:20.900 available was being shipped to Texas, because they had millions and millions of people bust their water heaters.
00:24:28.900 And I had, I know people in Texas that had this happen to them. And that happened, because the heat was shut off,
00:24:36.900 because too much of the grid was relying on wind and solar energy, which during the freeze, the turbines froze,
00:24:46.900 and the solar panels froze over. So because Texas counted on green energy, not only did the lights
00:24:54.900 not come on, but everyone's water heater busted. And it was only because the weather relented that they
00:24:58.900 didn't have this problem forever. So we are really dangerously close to a situation where people don't
00:25:08.900 have access to electricity. And it's because of green energy. And it's important to remember that while all
00:25:14.900 the politics stuff can shift around, if the lights don't come on, we're talking about a different situation.
00:25:20.900 And it also shows that in those moments, when those lights don't come on, people will do anything,
00:25:26.900 even turn to their enemy, which brings me to Europe. Joe Biden issued an executive order, and we can look
00:25:34.900 this up, you can look this up earlier this year, where he banned the exports of liquid natural gas.
00:25:40.900 Liquid natural gas is one of our most valuable exports. It's also the primary energy source used by European countries.
00:25:52.900 If you remember correctly, President Trump, while he was president, blocked the Nord Stream pipeline.
00:25:58.900 This pipeline would have brought fossil fuels from Russia into Europe. And Trump said, Russia is your enemy. He said this to the European leaders. He said, Russia is your enemy.
00:26:12.900 Why am I going to use US taxpayer dollars to defend Europe from Russia while you're building a pipeline so that they can have a monopolistic control of your energy?
00:26:26.900 Why on earth would I allow American military men and women to put themselves in harm's way to protect you from people that you're doing business with?
00:26:36.900 And rightfully so, that pipeline was stopped. As soon as Biden came into office, that pipeline was resumed. And it was eventually blown up, which, you know, there's some conflicting reports on that.
00:26:48.900 Putin says it's on that. Putin says it was the CIA. CIA says it was Putin. I know you trust more. It's up to you. But the point being that Biden allowed that pipeline to be built.
00:26:58.900 He allowed Russia to pump energy into Europe, giving them total control. And ultimately, whoever controls the ability of that light switch to turn on and off is the one that controls basically everything.
00:27:16.720 Because without the electricity, without the ability to have electricity, there's no money, there's no navigations, there's not really any of the ATMs don't work, you don't have people, people would fall apart in days.
00:27:31.920 So Russia, under the Biden administration, has been given total monopolistic control over European energy. Total control. President Biden has overseen Russia being more powerful than ever before. Not only that, but we talk about the axis of evil, the new axis of evil, which includes Russia, Iran, China.
00:27:56.680 Under President Biden's administration, and with his tutelage at the UN, you know, such a great leader, they lifted sanctions on Iran.
00:28:07.420 And Iran is now using their militias to go into Iraq and other countries, funnel oil and other natural resources into Iran, and then ship them to places like China.
00:28:18.080 Iran is now, Iran is now the number one exporter of oil to China. Soon, they're going to be up there with natural gas as well.
00:28:27.780 And it's important to point that out, because as Biden continues to tell us that Trump is Russian collusion, and we talk about the whole Robert Mueller report, and we talk about, oh, you know, Russian interference in the 2016 election.
00:28:48.760 Nobody has made Russia stronger than the Biden administration over the last several years.
00:28:55.400 And with the Putin-Tucker Carlson interview that's just aired recently, you know, every leftist cable news network is having a ball with that, saying, oh, look, this is Trump's guy.
00:29:06.460 He's cuddling up to Putin.
00:29:08.880 And I even saw an interview where they had Zelensky in some bombed out area, which we don't even know if it's real or not.
00:29:14.020 I mean, the guy's been known to do interviews with green screens around him.
00:29:19.380 You know, as far as the Tucker Carlson-Putin interview goes, the mainstream media is spinning that as saying, oh, well, you know, Trump is obviously allied with Putin.
00:29:31.260 And if you watch Jen Psaki, she actually says that Trump is Putin's apprentice.
00:29:36.420 Now, I want you to watch this video because this dispels their entire narrative, their entire narrative that Trump is helping Russia.
00:29:45.680 Trump stopped the Nord Stream pipeline.
00:29:48.060 Trump attempted to stop Russia's monopoly on Russian on European energy.
00:29:52.120 And the Democrats had a rigged election and stole the damn thing and then reversed all of it, giving Russia total control of the entire region.
00:30:00.840 And now Putin has endorsed Joe Biden.
00:30:03.600 So let's roll the clip of Putin endorsing Joe Biden for 2024 for Jen Psaki and all the rest of the liberals in the media.
00:30:10.500 For us, who are Biden or Trump?
00:30:14.820 Biden.
00:30:16.340 He's a very talented, he's a prognosis.
00:30:19.800 He's a politicalist of old form.
00:30:22.300 But we will work with any leader of the United States, who will be the American American army.
00:30:29.900 Listen, I was meeting with Biden in Switzerland.
00:30:32.840 It was, right, a few years ago.
00:30:34.100 It was three years ago.
00:30:34.580 And then they were talking about that he's not able to do this.
00:30:38.740 I didn't see anything like that.
00:30:40.660 Well, yes, he looked at his own paper.
00:30:42.720 I, honestly, looked at his own paper.
00:30:44.140 Well, nothing like that.
00:30:45.840 Well, that he, when he was out of the plane, he hit the head of the plane.
00:30:50.540 He hit the head of the plane.
00:30:51.280 But who did not hit the head of the plane?
00:30:56.340 There you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Putin endorsing Joe Biden.
00:31:12.880 And let me add here that, because this is an important wrinkle that I think has been kind of over-circulated the last few days.
00:31:20.040 The idea that one of the witnesses to the House Oversight Committee that was a FBI CIA informant that worked for them all of a sudden has ties to Russia is one of the most ridiculous pivots I've ever seen.
00:31:41.220 But at the same time, Hunter Biden walks into a subpoenaed appearance in Congress and just walks out with Kevin Morris, just walks right out of the place.
00:31:52.900 If that were you or I, we'd be in handcuffs.
00:31:56.160 If it was Roger Stone, they would have given him the death penalty.
00:31:59.680 If it was Donald Trump, they would have given him the death penalty 100 times.
00:32:03.340 That's the level of political bias that goes into the enforcement of our laws.
00:32:10.240 There is a total bias when it comes to the enforcement of American laws, where those on the left can do whatever they want, include burning cities, killing cops, burning churches, firebombing police, firebombing federal authorities.
00:32:27.660 They can do whatever they want because, as Merrick Garland said, and remember, he actually said this.
00:32:33.560 The acting attorney general of the United States actually said that he could not prosecute those involved in the whole Antifa-Portland debacle where there were firebombing federal authorities.
00:32:48.660 They couldn't be prosecuted because it happened at night.
00:32:54.840 He said that in Congress.
00:32:56.760 He actually said that he couldn't prosecute him because it happened at night.
00:33:02.180 So for anybody that wants to commit any kind of crime, I guess just do it at night.
00:33:06.680 And if it's bad enough, the attorney general won't do anything about it because it happened at night.
00:33:10.880 But we all know that if it was some guy that had posted a pro-Trump message on his Facebook at any point in his lifetime had done it, he'd be in jail for the rest of his life because that's how things go in America.
00:33:23.720 It's a total – it's basically become the Soviet Union.
00:33:28.380 And, I mean, look where we are right now, folks, the Stone Zone.
00:33:31.460 Roger Stone, a nonviolent offender, has his home raided by armed FBI agents at 3 a.m.
00:33:38.060 If that didn't – and Tucker Carlson has said this before and I've heard it.
00:33:42.620 If that didn't wake you up to what's going on in this country and the level of political problems that we are having, then I don't know what would because that was a step that a lot of people, I think, looked at and said, okay, we're in a different – we are in a completely different game right now.
00:34:03.040 And it's a very sad situation.
00:34:07.260 But as long as we have avenues like this, as long as we have avenues like Slingshot.news, which I encourage all of you to check out, launchliberty.com.
00:34:16.020 Also, stonezone.com.
00:34:18.500 You can check out stonezone.com.
00:34:20.760 And, obviously, I want you to go to rumble.com slash rogerstone and follow us here so that you can always stay tuned to the latest Stone Zone.
00:34:31.820 Again, it's rumble.com slash rogerstone.
00:34:35.640 And you can give us a follow.
00:34:36.980 Let me know how I did here, folks.
00:34:38.600 If you want me fired, I mean, I guess I'm going to have to retire.
00:34:41.380 But I think we put together a pretty good show here with some interesting topics.
00:34:45.300 But, anyway, folks, we want to get into our next topic here, and it's an important one because when it comes to January 6, 2021, and not speaking about the protests or anything like that,
00:35:01.380 what happened in Congress that day was that the Vice President of the United States, Mike Pence, had a duty, had a duty to not certify results that were questionable.
00:35:12.260 And he did so anyway.
00:35:14.700 The people that were opposing the certification of the election results within Congress, talking about members of Congress, those people weren't asking to overturn the election in favor of Donald Trump.
00:35:27.860 They were asking for a review of the data that was being submitted because they didn't believe it to be trustworthy.
00:35:35.540 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:35:36.800 It's been done many times throughout U.S. history.
00:35:39.980 And that process alone failed in a very important process that has caused untold damage on the United States based on the results of the Biden administration.
00:35:53.360 That happened because the Vice President of the United States was weak.
00:35:59.140 And I have no problem saying that Mike Pence is weak.
00:36:02.000 He is weak.
00:36:02.920 And you can tell that just by looking at him.
00:36:04.920 You can tell that by looking at the campaign events he had at a pharmacy in Iowa where nobody showed up.
00:36:12.200 And there were more people in line at the pharmacy than were attending his rally.
00:36:17.120 Mike Pence is a low-energy guy.
00:36:19.500 And he failed.
00:36:21.040 He tried to challenge Trump in this election cycle, and he failed.
00:36:24.360 And notice, by the way, how his document scandal, he had his own document scandal while he was running.
00:36:29.440 And all of a sudden, that's disappeared.
00:36:31.680 And I would be interested to see what Mike Pence is up to.
00:36:34.420 But my point is that we got Joe Biden because the Vice President was weak.
00:36:39.940 And if you're looking at 2024 and you're looking at Trump's ticket, you want him to select somebody who's going to be strong.
00:36:46.820 And it's not about loyalty to Trump.
00:36:50.620 It's about loyalty to the Constitution and the process that our founders gave us.
00:36:55.760 And the media will spin it as, oh, it's a loyalty to Trump.
00:37:00.060 No, it has nothing to do with it.
00:37:01.380 Mike Pence could have been the most disloyal human being on the face of the earth.
00:37:06.680 He had a duty, and he didn't do it.
00:37:09.160 That's what it comes down to.
00:37:10.360 He had a job, and he didn't do it.
00:37:12.480 He was supposed to review the evidence.
00:37:14.300 He was supposed to not certify it if he didn't think it was legitimate or he think it needed to be reviewed.
00:37:21.340 And he didn't do that.
00:37:22.820 They didn't afford anybody the opportunity to do anything.
00:37:25.920 And, in fact, the protesters breaking in actually gave them the perfect opportunity to completely dismiss anybody who had anything to say about the count
00:37:37.340 and to then come back, and I believe they did so at 11 o'clock or midnight on January 6th, which would have been January 7th,
00:37:46.000 they certified the election results.
00:37:47.780 And, of course, nobody was going to stand up after what had happened.
00:37:51.680 So, you know, you get what you get.
00:37:54.680 And if Trump does not pick somebody who is willing to stand up and willing to do their constitutional duty at that time,
00:38:04.260 then we could have a similar situation in 2028 or, you know, if we do get down to that situation, if Trump does win,
00:38:13.500 we could have a similar situation going into the next election.
00:38:17.340 And I think that needs to be dealt with.
00:38:18.880 And it needs to be something that's at the top of President Trump's mind as he's selecting who he's going to pick for his vice president.
00:38:27.780 Now, I'm not here to tell him who to pick.
00:38:29.440 I would never tell him who to pick.
00:38:31.160 I think that there are some good candidates for the position.
00:38:36.080 But ultimately, he's got to be the one that decides, okay, I have faith in this person.
00:38:40.900 I think this person is a strong individual.
00:38:43.100 And as Roger said, I think it would benefit him greatly to pick somebody who's actually run for president before.
00:38:50.320 And that gets into somebody who has been making the news recently, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:38:55.780 Now, Tulsi Gabbard, Roger's put out a lot of tweets on this.
00:38:59.540 And we're going to run a video here quickly where he talks about Tulsi Gabbard possibly being Trump's running mate heading into the 2024 election.
00:39:07.680 We're going to play that clip now.
00:39:08.680 You want somebody who's maybe run for president before.
00:39:13.320 That would be someone like Dr. Ben Carson, who I like.
00:39:17.760 But it's hard for me to see how he would win you any votes you don't already have.
00:39:23.320 Or somebody else who's run for president, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:39:28.320 Now, I'm intrigued with that idea.
00:39:30.320 I'd make no bones about it.
00:39:32.000 She's a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve.
00:39:35.700 She is a veteran of both Iraq and Kuwait.
00:39:41.840 She is a former Democrat, former Democrat member of Congress.
00:39:47.560 She is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment.
00:39:51.420 I interviewed her yesterday for my WAPC New York radio show.
00:39:55.420 She was in a shooting range in a shooting contest.
00:39:57.520 You could hear the shooting going on behind her.
00:39:59.980 I do think that she's had the same kind of political evolution we've seen previously.
00:40:06.840 But my friends say to me, but she was a Democrat.
00:40:09.800 She was a liberal Democrat.
00:40:11.920 Folks, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat.
00:40:14.080 In fact, he was a very liberal Democrat.
00:40:16.580 He was a New Deal Democrat.
00:40:19.240 On the larger questions of war and peace, she has stood up to the war machine.
00:40:23.840 On the larger question of this weaponization of our criminal justice system, which they seek to destroy Donald Trump, to lock him up, to steal his wealth, she has stood up against the system.
00:40:37.620 Yet, and I think she has an appeal to millennials, to younger voters.
00:40:42.560 She's also a championship surfer.
00:40:44.680 So, I would take some guff for this, but I actually think if you want somebody who's run for president before, has the qualifications, and would carry out the Trump agenda, that's personally who I would choose.
00:41:01.040 There are a number of other safer candidates.
00:41:04.800 I'm not endorsing anybody.
00:41:06.520 I'm waiting for Donald Trump to choose.
00:41:08.240 And then I'm for whoever he is for.
00:41:11.500 And as Roger said there, we will be for whoever he is for.
00:41:18.000 I think it's important that people recognize that, you know, and I'm hearing a lot of speculation.
00:41:24.140 And we can get into this now because I think this is important.
00:41:28.160 We have told you here on the Stone Zone many times about sore loser laws.
00:41:33.000 And we've talked a bit about how if Nikki Haley decided that she was going to run for president as an independent, she couldn't really do it in many states because they have a rule where you can't drop out of one party's primary and then run for the general as an independent or in a different party.
00:41:52.340 They don't want people basically running vendetta campaigns.
00:41:56.080 And that's a loophole that a lot of people don't understand.
00:41:58.700 And we're going to get into that in our final segment here of the show.
00:42:01.900 But it just points out there's rules to this that certain people don't understand, and they don't really understand that.
00:42:07.740 So you hear people talking about Byron Donalds.
00:42:10.020 I saw he was asked about being vice president.
00:42:12.020 And there's a problem with Byron Donalds.
00:42:15.900 There's a problem with Ron DeSantis.
00:42:18.020 There's a problem.
00:42:19.500 There's many problems with Ron DeSantis, but this one particularly.
00:42:22.940 And there's a problem with Matt Gaetz.
00:42:24.500 The problem is that the 12th Amendment states that a vice president and a president can't be on the ticket from the same state without having penalties.
00:42:33.960 And that would mean losing the large electoral count of Florida, which I believe is over 30 at this point.
00:42:41.040 So we could put up – I've highlighted here the 12th Amendment, which states that the electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for president and vice president, one of whom, at least, shall not be inhabitant of the same state with themselves.
00:42:55.140 And I think it's important to point out that that portion definitely contributes to it.
00:43:01.660 I would encourage everybody to go out there and to read the entire 12th Amendment, which kind of gets more into what's happening there.
00:43:08.700 But you can't have a president and a vice president from the same state.
00:43:14.260 And I think that's very – that's a very important thing.
00:43:17.880 You won't see him pick anybody from Florida.
00:43:20.600 My question is what if somebody is a resident of multiple states?
00:43:25.500 Because Trump would technically be a resident of New York.
00:43:29.640 I would wonder – and I don't know this for sure.
00:43:31.540 I'm not a constitutional attorney.
00:43:32.800 I would wonder if that same standard applies to – like say Trump is a resident of New York.
00:43:43.200 He claims to be a resident of New York in his papers where he files.
00:43:47.060 Could he run with somebody from Florida?
00:43:48.960 That's an interesting question that I don't think has been answered yet legally.
00:43:54.000 But I think it points towards what's happening here as we get closer to the 2024 election because Tulsi Gabbard, as Roger points out, is a veteran.
00:44:03.520 She's somebody who had something going on before she got to D.C.
00:44:06.800 She's not just a politician.
00:44:08.020 And I feel the same way about Ben Carson, truthfully, because he was such an accomplished, brilliant guy before he got into politics.
00:44:15.240 My only problem with him is that I don't think he adds anything to the ticket.
00:44:19.920 I don't think anybody is going out there saying, oh, Ben Carson is going to be the VP, although I think he's a brilliant man and I think people should feel that way.
00:44:26.940 I really do.
00:44:28.980 Before Trump got into the 2016 election, I was – I mean I was 16 years old, but I was looking at it and saying, OK, well, Ben Carson looks like the best option here.
00:44:38.720 Brilliant guy, smart guy, stayed with Trump to the end, loyal, I mean brilliant, not enough you could say about him.
00:44:45.980 But I'm not sure politically that people get excited and I think that was kind of highlighted in 2016 where he became – he just got old.
00:44:55.820 People didn't really care.
00:44:57.120 And you could blame Trump on that.
00:44:59.100 In another election cycle, he might have done a lot better.
00:45:02.100 And I remember looking at his fundraising.
00:45:03.880 He actually did pretty well, a lot better than I expected.
00:45:08.020 So I – like I said, I think Ben Carson is a great guy, but I don't think he motivates anybody.
00:45:13.240 And with Tulsi Gabbard, I think you may access a new voter group that maybe wouldn't have voted for the ticket prior.
00:45:18.840 And I think for a lot of the Democrats, as we showed in that poll earlier on in the show where they're losing on key issues across the board because of Joe Biden, there's going to be a lot of Democrats who are looking at Trump and looking for a reason to support him.
00:45:35.080 They're looking for a reason and they'll never say it publicly.
00:45:39.700 They will never admit it because they have to be, oh, we hate Trump.
00:45:44.300 But there's a lot of Democrats out there and trust me that are looking at this ballot and saying, OK, if Biden is the nominee, I don't know that I can vote for that.
00:45:52.260 Because as we pointed out, Ukraine, Middle East, all this stuff, and they're going to be looking for a reason to vote for Donald Trump.
00:46:00.780 They're going to be looking for a reason to not vote for Joe Biden.
00:46:04.300 Now, I think the important thing for Trump is that he works those independents because I think in that scenario, if Robert F. Kennedy is able to get on the ballot in a lot of states, he will absorb a lot of that vote.
00:46:18.960 And I don't know whether it be 50-50 or whatever, but I think that ultimately if he's on the ballot in a lot of key states, it could play in a factor.
00:46:27.560 But there's going to be a lot of Democrats that are looking for a reason not to vote for President Biden because it's just been such a disaster at every level.
00:46:35.400 I mean, this guy started with a 61 approval rating from independents.
00:46:40.140 And, of course, the president always has a good approval rating right after the inauguration.
00:46:44.220 But that's down to like under 30 now.
00:46:47.020 He's totally tanked with independents.
00:46:49.480 People don't agree with him on anything.
00:46:51.660 Not only that, but he's a basket case who can't appear in public without embarrassing himself and the country.
00:46:58.260 So it's really put them in a catch-22.
00:47:00.460 It's why I think Roger's right and so many others are right in saying that Biden may not be the nominee.
00:47:05.180 I don't know that for a fact, but it sure looks like they're setting up the cards that way.
00:47:10.260 And it's going to be interesting to see how things eventually shake out in that regard.
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00:48:22.660 So, ladies and gentlemen, we have just about eight minutes left here in this broadcast.
00:48:27.620 And I wanted to use that time to talk about something that is extremely important and something that I think is affecting a lot of people right now.
00:48:39.360 It's not getting a lot of talk.
00:48:41.400 And that is media consolidation.
00:48:44.880 And if you haven't seen the headlines, journalists all over the United States are being fired.
00:48:50.300 We have a couple select headlines that I want to throw up there.
00:48:55.000 800 fired from Paramount, CBS News journalists affected by that.
00:49:00.280 Vice Media has completely shut their doors.
00:49:03.580 They've laid off hundreds of people.
00:49:05.060 They're not even going to be publishing on their website anymore.
00:49:08.320 And then additionally, we had some other layoffs.
00:49:11.180 I believe it was the LA Times fired 115 people.
00:49:14.620 Now, that was a month ago.
00:49:18.040 But just since the beginning of the year here, we've seen a lot of journalists kicked out of where they were working.
00:49:22.700 And I think it's important for the people that are trying to control the narratives that there not be anybody that's kind of dissenting from that narrative.
00:49:32.280 And it shows why places like Slingshot News, Slingshot.news, or LaunchLiberty.com, or StoneZone.com, or this broadcast are so important.
00:49:42.840 Because as we get closer to 2024, restraints put on people like us by big tech.
00:49:49.000 The restraints put on people like Roger heading into the election are going to be tighter and tighter and tighter.
00:49:56.860 So there may come a time where we can't get this broadcast to you other than having it here at Rumble.
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00:50:13.920 Because as we go through 2024, there's going to be more and more big tech censorship.
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00:50:23.940 And it's only with your support at places like MyPillow.com or Rumble that we can get people, we can keep this going.
00:50:32.260 And we can keep good information getting out to you, the people who, if it weren't for independent media, would be completely led astray by those in the mainstream.
00:50:42.600 Who, for so many years, allowed our country to be destroyed.
00:50:46.660 These people allowed our country to be destroyed.
00:50:49.540 So we just have a few more minutes here, folks.
00:50:51.900 And I want to end here with no labels because we've talked about that quite a bit.
00:50:56.420 Yesterday, we talked about the sore loser laws and that Nikki Haley could not run for president as an independent after losing the Republican primary in a lot of states.
00:51:06.100 But she could run as vice president in a ticket for no labels, as Roger pointed out.
00:51:13.340 Now, in order for that to work, and this is important too, no labels director says Nikki Haley is someone that they're definitely interested in for a 2024 run.
00:51:23.860 As I predicted on the Stone Zone just a few days ago, I believe if Larry Hogan wins his race for U.S. Senate in Maryland, that he will switch his party affiliation afterwards and become no labels to assume the Joe Manchin catbird seat in the Senate that Kyrsten Sinema tried and failed to assume.
00:51:41.320 I believe, and this is my exclusive prediction here on the Stone Zone, that no labels will try to recruit billionaire Shark Tank host Mark Cuban as their president on the Haley Cuban ticket as a no labels ticket heading into 2024.
00:52:00.960 Now, this party already has serious ballot access in many states, and this is a real possibility.
00:52:06.180 And the idea that the establishment would draft the liberal reality talk show host to go up against Trump, who they call the reality show host from The Celebrity Apprentice, is a story that I think that they're going to want to push.
00:52:20.840 It's something that gives them headlines.
00:52:23.200 And Mark Cuban has openly talked about running for president.
00:52:25.800 We pulled a clip of that from about six years ago.
00:52:28.000 I want to run that now so people can see that the Mark Cuban for president thing is not as big of a pipe dream as some would have you believe.
00:52:36.180 You kind of would like to be the president of the United States.
00:52:38.540 No, that's not what I said.
00:52:39.280 If you could.
00:52:40.200 That's not what I said.
00:52:41.260 I said I'm considering it.
00:52:43.840 I think that given the circumstances, there's a unique opportunity for somebody like me who's independent, who's not affiliated with a party in any way.
00:52:55.540 I haven't given money to a politician since 2002.
00:52:58.940 And I think that people are looking for an independent voice, a real independent voice that at least has an inkling of what they're talking about.
00:53:05.440 If you ran, you would run as a Democrat?
00:53:09.120 No, absolutely not.
00:53:10.580 As an independent?
00:53:12.060 Potentially.
00:53:13.400 And I'd say...
00:53:14.300 Or as a Republican.
00:53:16.100 Republican before Democrat, most likely independent because I think there's an incremental value towards for setting up an independent candidacy.
00:53:27.300 Now, I understand the difficulties of that and the challenges of that from an infrastructure perspective.
00:53:34.440 But the positives for doing it as a Republican means you get to go head on with Trump right in the primaries.
00:53:38.920 And so there's nothing I'd have more fun doing.
00:53:41.120 The benefit of being an independent is you go right to the golden ticket time, right?
00:53:47.900 And if I get enough support in the polls, then I get to participate with the debates, which is right up there with something.
00:53:53.760 I think you really are considering and thinking about it.
00:53:56.080 Well, no, I'm considering, obviously considering.
00:53:57.860 And there you have it, folks.
00:54:00.320 Mark Cuban interested in running as an independent but kind of a Republican.
00:54:04.760 What does that sound like to you?
00:54:06.320 To me, that sounds exactly like Nikki Haley, no labels, Larry Hogan and all the rest of the rhino trash that has been destroying this country for many years.
00:54:16.060 I think Mark Cuban's got the money.
00:54:17.640 He's got the influence.
00:54:19.000 He's got the...
00:54:19.860 Obviously, he's got the same values.
00:54:21.980 He hates Trump.
00:54:22.700 He endorsed Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, just as many in the Republican circles of the establishment.
00:54:31.480 So, folks, Mark Cuban, that would be my prediction for no labels.
00:54:36.020 If you wanted to do some damage to Trump and you wanted to present it as a kind of alternative to Trump, I think Mark Cuban really is the mirror image of Trump.
00:54:47.340 Trump, it's almost like a Superman with Superman with the backwards S.
00:54:52.480 It's almost exactly the opposite of Trump in that he's a very wealthy individual who supports liberal causes and supports DEI and supports things like that.
00:55:02.800 But he also has this aura of being outspoken and honest, and he has tremendous face recognition and name recognition from his time with the Mavericks and his time where he's a minority owner now and his time on Shark Tank, obviously.
00:55:18.480 So I think if the no labels people, they're going to be calling Mark Cuban.
00:55:22.860 Now, whether that happens or not, I don't know, but my prediction is if they do run a candidate in this race for 2024 for president, it's going to be a Cuban Haley ticket.
00:55:32.940 That seems to me to make the most sense.
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