The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Trump Turncoats Now Want to Serve in his Administration

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.040 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:10.640 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:16.800 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:22.340 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.120 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.080 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:40.680 Good evening and welcome to The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:00:44.600 I am not Roger Stone. I am Mark Vargas, editor-in-chief of Illinois Review, filling in for Roger this evening.

00:00:52.020 And so what is The Stone Zone without Roger Stone?

00:00:54.940 So we're going to begin tonight's show with a clip of Roger's interview with Piers Morgan.

00:01:01.940 Take a look.

00:01:03.320 A longtime Republican strategist who's worked for presidents Nixon, Reagan, and Trump.

00:01:07.920 He's a man that many, including myself, including himself, I'm sorry, credit with first suggesting that Donald run for president.

00:01:13.780 It's the infamous, notorious, famous Roger Stone.

00:01:18.000 Roger, how are you?

00:01:20.640 Great, great. Having a great day.

00:01:22.680 Well, I'm sure you are.

00:01:25.140 1998 was the first time that you suggested to Donald Trump that he run for president.

00:01:30.800 Did you actually ever imagine that not only would he win one term,

00:01:34.900 but he would then lose and come back in the way that he's done with a massively bigger majority?

00:01:39.880 Yes, I actually did.

00:01:44.100 I met him, of course, in 1980 when I was working for Ronald Reagan.

00:01:48.600 But by 1988, I realized that he had the size, I don't mean the physical size, but the stature

00:01:54.940 and the courage and the independence and the stamina to not be just a great candidate for president,

00:02:02.400 but to actually be a great president.

00:02:06.000 And I think I have been validated yet again yesterday.

00:02:10.680 Yeah, I spoke to him yesterday morning, I rang him, I had a chat with him,

00:02:15.460 and even he seemed a bit shell-shocked by the size of the victory.

00:02:19.600 I mean, to win the White House, to win the Senate, probably the House,

00:02:24.240 you know, to have potentially two more picks of the Supreme Court

00:02:28.360 coming in the next four years,

00:02:29.920 because almost all the state stuff was a landslide, too.

00:02:34.340 It's an extraordinary triumph for Trump,

00:02:38.320 an amazing redemption for him personally,

00:02:41.540 but also an extraordinary opportunity for him.

00:02:45.980 Well, I think you're exactly right.

00:02:48.360 I mean, first of all, it is a testimony to his resilience,

00:02:52.440 his strength, his persistence,

00:02:54.940 but it's also a unique opportunity

00:02:57.920 to return the country 1.00

00:02:59.860 to unprecedented peace and prosperity

00:03:03.320 as well as opportunity for all Americans.

00:03:06.700 I really think not only does he understand that,

00:03:09.720 but I think he demonstrated in his first term

00:03:12.520 that he knows how to lead us in that direction,

00:03:15.700 and he has a very specific plan to get us back there.

00:03:19.840 So I think we're about to enter a golden age in this country.

00:03:24.840 I was among many who thought

00:03:27.420 after January the 6th,

00:03:28.740 it was over for Donald Trump,

00:03:30.940 that we'd never see him anywhere near the White House again.

00:03:34.800 It's been a remarkable comeback.

00:03:37.320 How do you think he's pulled this off

00:03:39.080 in terms of him personally?

00:03:41.460 What are the characteristics of Donald Trump

00:03:43.720 that have enabled him to make

00:03:44.940 one of the greatest comebacks anyone's ever seen?

00:03:47.620 Look, I worked for Richard Nixon.

00:03:52.660 I worked for Senator Bob Dole.

00:03:54.820 They were both very tough guys.

00:03:57.540 Donald Trump is the toughest human being I have ever met.

00:04:01.000 He is persistent when he has an idea.

00:04:03.940 It's unshakable.

00:04:05.440 He has a work ethic,

00:04:07.000 which was demonstrated once again,

00:04:09.200 as it was at the end of the 2016 campaign,

00:04:12.760 that leaves younger men like me behind.

00:04:17.060 In a very strange way,

00:04:19.740 his enemies, in their efforts to destroy him,

00:04:22.980 to bankrupt him, to send him to jail,

00:04:26.160 they turbocharged his campaign.

00:04:28.140 I felt at the time

00:04:30.600 that he announced his candidacy

00:04:32.960 for this election,

00:04:35.340 a certain flatness among the electorate

00:04:38.200 in terms of their response to it.

00:04:40.400 Yet when they tried to destroy him,

00:04:43.020 they literally turbocharged his campaign.

00:04:47.300 It's hard to remember now,

00:04:49.080 but many people said,

00:04:50.380 oh, well, Ron DeSantis

00:04:52.360 will easily become the Republican nominee.

00:04:55.440 Trump is yesterday's news.

00:04:56.880 He vanquished DeSantis,

00:04:59.680 and quite easily.

00:05:01.420 He stormed to the nomination

00:05:03.280 in an unprecedented style.

00:05:05.820 He got three times the margin

00:05:08.360 of the previous big winner

00:05:10.120 of the Iowa caucuses.

00:05:12.060 That was my old boss, Senator Bob Dole.

00:05:15.280 It was a relatively easy nomination,

00:05:18.900 and the party is now completely remade

00:05:22.220 in his image as the party of working Americans,

00:05:25.460 the party of the middle class.

00:05:28.260 They have underestimated his strength.

00:05:30.760 The man is a lion.

00:05:34.060 I thought there was some...

00:05:35.320 Listen, I totally agree with you about that.

00:05:37.220 And in fact, I wrote columns

00:05:38.940 saying that I thought DeSantis was the future.

00:05:42.000 But then I think the way

00:05:43.800 the left weaponized the justice system

00:05:46.600 so transparently against Trump,

00:05:49.440 you could see his own poll ratings

00:05:51.280 from that moment, as you put it,

00:05:52.980 start to turbocharge,

00:05:54.220 and they carried on.

00:05:55.240 In fact, the more times he appeared in court,

00:05:57.520 the better his approval rating got

00:05:59.540 to the extent that by the time

00:06:00.560 we got to last week,

00:06:02.100 his personal approval rating

00:06:03.460 was the highest it had ever been

00:06:05.300 as a politician,

00:06:06.520 despite the fact that by then

00:06:07.760 he was a convicted felon.

00:06:08.980 So it's been an extraordinary thing

00:06:11.440 to watch,

00:06:12.520 and yet I felt the overreach

00:06:14.260 by taking him through a criminal court 0.90

00:06:16.680 over a ridiculous case 0.58

00:06:18.640 involving Stormy Daniels from 20 years ago, 0.71

00:06:21.740 I thought that was such an obvious

00:06:23.500 abusive power by the Democrats

00:06:26.380 that actually it backfired completely.

00:06:28.760 I agree with all of that.

00:06:34.480 The problem, of course,

00:06:35.300 is that they are unhinged

00:06:36.940 by their hatred for him.

00:06:39.180 And I think it has clouded

00:06:40.640 their political judgment,

00:06:43.280 which is why they overreached.

00:06:45.000 The American people were able to see

00:06:46.860 that he was being unfairly persecuted

00:06:50.240 in an effort to interfere in the election

00:06:53.420 and destroy his campaign

00:06:55.160 to return to the White House.

00:06:56.480 So, yes, he was ultimately helped

00:06:59.540 by his enemies

00:07:00.640 because they tried so hard to destroy him.

00:07:05.200 What kind of president

00:07:06.320 will he be second time around, Roger?

00:07:08.140 Because the first three years

00:07:10.080 of his presidency were going pretty well.

00:07:13.300 People were offended by stuff

00:07:14.640 that came out of his mouth.

00:07:15.580 But in terms of what he did,

00:07:17.040 he was a reasonably moderate,

00:07:18.620 successful Republican president.

00:07:20.520 Then he got hit by the COVID pandemic,

00:07:22.800 which, as it did to every country

00:07:24.240 in the world,

00:07:25.420 threw everything up on its...

00:07:26.420 on its head.

00:07:28.220 And then we had the fallout,

00:07:30.200 obviously, him refusing to accept

00:07:31.480 the election result, January 6th, and so on.

00:07:33.800 I don't want to go back over that.

00:07:35.540 But he's got a chance now

00:07:37.200 to reset his legacy.

00:07:39.900 And he knows he can't run again.

00:07:42.280 So, I suspect knowing him,

00:07:44.900 and you can tell me what you think,

00:07:46.400 but I suspect knowing him,

00:07:47.380 he's going to really go for it this time.

00:07:49.240 And he's going to try

00:07:50.240 and really cement his legacy.

00:07:52.320 What I'm not sure about

00:07:53.320 that is exactly how he sees that legacy.

00:07:56.040 What do you think he'll be doing?

00:07:59.980 First of all,

00:08:00.600 I do think he's going to be magnanimous in victory.

00:08:04.040 He was in 2016,

00:08:05.260 but his enemies

00:08:06.980 would never concede defeat.

00:08:09.860 I think he has a unique opportunity

00:08:12.860 in a number of areas

00:08:15.460 to be remembered

00:08:16.260 as one of our greatest presidents.

00:08:18.080 He understands that low energy prices,

00:08:21.720 drilling, again, for gas and oil,

00:08:25.460 are the cornerstone

00:08:26.380 to a vibrant economy.

00:08:28.460 He also understands

00:08:29.500 that a vibrant economy,

00:08:31.420 as JFK said,

00:08:32.580 and a rising tide lifts all boats.

00:08:35.580 He has a deep commitment

00:08:37.480 to criminal justice reform.

00:08:39.500 We saw that in the first term,

00:08:41.180 in the First Step Act,

00:08:42.280 in the Second Chance Act.

00:08:44.840 I think he should do more in that area,

00:08:47.380 and I think he will.

00:08:48.980 He's very focused now

00:08:50.280 on the fact that there's a huge lack

00:08:52.440 of affordable housing in America.

00:08:54.800 It doesn't matter whether you're a buyer or a renter.

00:08:57.580 It's impossible to buy,

00:08:59.180 and it's too expensive to rent.

00:09:01.380 He's a builder.

00:09:02.680 He's going to fix that problem.

00:09:04.820 I think he understands

00:09:06.460 that he has a unique opportunity

00:09:08.640 to not only restore the country

00:09:12.440 to its former greatness,

00:09:14.100 but now to go down in the history books

00:09:16.620 with FDR, with Theodore Roosevelt,

00:09:19.820 with some of our Abraham Lincoln,

00:09:21.740 some of our greatest presidents.

00:09:24.020 He is absolutely the right man

00:09:26.420 at the right time for this job.

00:09:28.900 It is quite staggering

00:09:30.580 that somebody who has been branded

00:09:32.660 the most racist candidate in history, 0.94

00:09:35.240 a neo-Nazi, a fascist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 0.99

00:09:38.020 ended up with this surging support 0.99

00:09:40.780 from black voters,

00:09:42.320 and particularly from Latino voters,

00:09:45.860 when he was up against

00:09:47.460 a female black candidate. 0.86

00:09:50.820 What do you think that says about America?

00:09:53.640 Was it just that American voters

00:09:55.260 saw through all the Nazi nonsense? 0.98

00:09:58.160 First of all, it was nonsense. 0.96

00:10:02.960 And our mistake, perhaps,

00:10:05.400 as political analysts,

00:10:06.440 is to not realize 0.51

00:10:07.720 that black people and Hispanics

00:10:10.740 and really all people,

00:10:12.380 they all want the same thing.

00:10:14.440 They want economic opportunity

00:10:16.300 and security.

00:10:17.380 They want safe and secure neighborhoods.

00:10:20.820 They want low gas prices.

00:10:22.560 They want low food prices.

00:10:25.080 They realized, based on his four years

00:10:27.860 and the last four years,

00:10:31.020 that Donald Trump brought us those things before

00:10:33.800 and that he could bring them again.

00:10:36.640 So I think this is why

00:10:38.980 he made these historic gains.

00:10:40.960 Let's recognize

00:10:41.640 that he won an absolute majority

00:10:44.520 of Hispanic Americans.

00:10:47.400 I mean, George W. Bush,

00:10:49.520 I think, had the highest previous

00:10:51.460 high water market,

00:10:52.480 about 38 and a half percent.

00:10:55.020 So people voted for their future

00:10:57.240 and they trust him with their future

00:10:59.960 far more than they trusted Kamala Harris.

00:11:02.940 I posted on X this morning,

00:11:06.340 and it got a lot of blowback

00:11:07.520 from MAGA supporters,

00:11:09.960 but I posted that it might be

00:11:11.500 an interesting move by Donald Trump

00:11:13.220 if he truly wants to send a signal

00:11:15.540 early on that he wants to unify the country

00:11:17.840 to consider pardoning Hunter Biden,

00:11:21.560 Joe Biden's son.

00:11:23.600 Trump pardoned you

00:11:25.000 after you were convicted of a crime.

00:11:27.860 Would it be a good move,

00:11:29.420 do you think, for Trump

00:11:30.260 to effectively reach across

00:11:32.380 for pardon Isle

00:11:33.460 and pardon the current president's son?

00:11:37.760 Well, of course, Pierce,

00:11:39.300 as you know,

00:11:40.100 once a federal judge

00:11:41.660 ordered the Justice Department

00:11:43.800 to release Robert Mueller's

00:11:45.340 fully unredacted report,

00:11:47.420 which the judge denied

00:11:48.780 my defense attorneys at trial,

00:11:51.260 even Mueller could not sugarcoat

00:11:53.100 the fact that he found

00:11:53.920 no evidence of Russian collusion,

00:11:56.100 WikiLeaks collaboration,

00:11:57.340 or for that matter,

00:11:58.080 any other crime.

00:11:59.780 I was pleased when the president

00:12:01.800 said that the pardon

00:12:03.380 of Hunter Biden

00:12:04.120 was not off the table.

00:12:06.600 We need to bring America

00:12:08.140 together again.

00:12:09.580 We need to end this cycle

00:12:11.420 of weaponization

00:12:12.780 of our criminal justice system.

00:12:15.260 The fact that Kamala

00:12:17.080 and her surrogates were saying,

00:12:18.380 well, if Trump is elected,

00:12:19.940 he will seek to prosecute

00:12:21.800 and jail his political enemies.

00:12:24.260 Do they have no sense

00:12:25.780 of self-awareness?

00:12:27.080 They were accusing him

00:12:28.680 of planning to do

00:12:30.100 that which he did not do

00:12:31.900 in his first term

00:12:32.820 and that which was being done

00:12:34.560 to him at that very instant.

00:12:36.720 So I was pleased to see

00:12:38.360 that he's considering it.

00:12:40.300 I don't speak for him.

00:12:41.520 I speak only for myself.

00:12:43.580 But it is time

00:12:44.400 to end this cycle

00:12:45.940 where Republicans

00:12:47.260 and Democrats

00:12:47.980 are trying to destroy each other,

00:12:50.320 put each other in prison.

00:12:52.220 It was not like this

00:12:53.460 when I entered politics.

00:12:55.080 I had friends

00:12:56.880 who were in the business

00:12:57.760 who were really smart people,

00:13:00.420 Democrats,

00:13:01.060 who you would eat with

00:13:01.960 and drink with

00:13:02.700 and hang out with

00:13:03.560 and make jokes with.

00:13:04.960 That camaraderie

00:13:06.140 just no longer exists.

00:13:08.500 We have to get back

00:13:09.920 to a time

00:13:10.640 where there is some civility

00:13:12.600 in our politics.

00:13:15.440 And I actually think

00:13:16.540 Donald Trump understands that.

00:13:18.820 Well, in the interests

00:13:20.100 of moving forward

00:13:21.620 and reaching across

00:13:23.220 to, you know,

00:13:24.740 historic foes and so on,

00:13:27.260 I just wanted to end

00:13:28.040 on a bit of personal business, Roger,

00:13:29.900 because when I tweeted

00:13:30.640 that Kamala Harris

00:13:32.080 wasn't up to winning

00:13:32.940 the presidency,

00:13:34.340 you responded to me on X

00:13:36.440 and you said,

00:13:37.400 Piers now trying 1.00

00:13:38.220 to suck Trump's dick 1.00

00:13:39.480 after betraying him previously, 1.00

00:13:42.140 a truly talentless dirtbag. 0.97

00:13:45.180 I just wondered whether 0.95

00:13:46.160 now the dust has settled,

00:13:47.980 you wanted to maybe rethink

00:13:50.280 your view there, Roger.

00:13:53.460 Look, I confess,

00:13:54.800 Piers, to occasionally

00:13:55.960 posting a two-martini tweet

00:13:57.860 and I'm less than perfect.

00:14:01.300 But, yes,

00:14:01.920 let's have a reset.

00:14:04.400 I had seen an interview

00:14:05.780 with Trump

00:14:06.280 in which I didn't think

00:14:07.760 you treated him fairly

00:14:08.760 and that was my motivation.

00:14:10.540 But it is a new day

00:14:11.460 for all of us.

00:14:12.920 None of us is perfect.

00:14:14.620 And let's move forward

00:14:16.480 on a more positive basis.

00:14:19.680 So you don't think

00:14:20.440 I'm quite such 0.94

00:14:21.460 a truly talentless dirtbag? 0.97

00:14:25.100 No, actually, 0.98

00:14:26.140 you're not a bad fellow at all.

00:14:29.480 You know,

00:14:30.180 it's interesting

00:14:30.600 with Donald Trump

00:14:31.220 because I've known him

00:14:32.120 a long time,

00:14:32.760 not as long as you,

00:14:33.360 but I've known him

00:14:33.680 nearly 20 years.

00:14:34.960 And I've criticized him

00:14:36.520 a lot and I've praised him

00:14:37.540 a lot when others haven't.

00:14:39.560 And we've occasionally

00:14:40.660 had a little wobble

00:14:41.600 in the relationship.

00:14:42.200 But the thing I've always liked

00:14:43.240 about Donald Trump

00:14:44.120 is that I always know

00:14:45.400 when we've had a little spat

00:14:46.540 or a falling out,

00:14:47.360 and we did after that interview

00:14:48.420 you talked about,

00:14:50.400 he rang me a few months later

00:14:51.840 like nothing had happened.

00:14:53.280 And I think he, you know,

00:14:54.580 he is actually

00:14:55.460 a very loyal person,

00:14:56.780 as you know,

00:14:57.660 to people he's known

00:14:58.360 a long time,

00:14:59.080 even if occasionally

00:15:00.020 they say or do stuff

00:15:01.760 he doesn't like.

00:15:02.540 He is actually a loyal guy.

00:15:06.740 Well, look,

00:15:07.420 I think he falls in

00:15:09.220 and out with people,

00:15:10.060 but nobody is ever

00:15:11.680 permanently banned.

00:15:14.080 And, Piers, look,

00:15:15.000 anybody who sports

00:15:16.040 a boutonniere like that

00:15:17.180 can't really be a bad chap.

00:15:22.380 Roger, it's great

00:15:23.480 to have you on our sensor.

00:15:24.380 Thank you very much.

00:15:26.660 Thank you,

00:15:27.400 and God bless you.

00:15:29.500 That was Roger Stone

00:15:31.180 just recently

00:15:31.900 on The Piers Morgan Show

00:15:33.360 talking about

00:15:34.120 the historic

00:15:35.480 and epic

00:15:36.960 massive mandate

00:15:39.400 victory of

00:15:40.560 President Donald J.

00:15:41.740 Trump

00:15:41.960 just the other night,

00:15:43.880 shocking the political elites

00:15:45.640 and the mainstream media

00:15:47.320 who have spent

00:15:48.040 the last

00:15:48.600 several days

00:15:50.040 just

00:15:50.580 awestruck

00:15:51.940 and dumbstruck 0.58

00:15:52.840 that President Trump

00:15:54.320 has won

00:15:55.200 by such

00:15:57.060 large margins,

00:15:58.420 not only

00:15:58.860 winning the electoral

00:16:00.200 college vote,

00:16:01.240 but the

00:16:01.800 popular vote

00:16:03.520 as well.

00:16:05.100 And even in places

00:16:05.960 like Chicago,

00:16:07.300 where I am at,

00:16:08.120 where it is a

00:16:09.200 deep,

00:16:09.780 deep blue state,

00:16:11.000 where they

00:16:11.300 hosted in August

00:16:12.760 the Democratic National

00:16:13.780 Convention,

00:16:14.660 you can't miss

00:16:15.440 that in today's

00:16:16.660 Chicago Tribune,

00:16:18.380 it says,

00:16:19.360 front page,

00:16:20.040 a rightward shift

00:16:21.160 by continuing

00:16:22.240 his dominance

00:16:23.000 with white

00:16:24.000 working class voters

00:16:24.960 and by making gains

00:16:26.160 in suburbs,

00:16:27.620 cities,

00:16:28.480 and significantly

00:16:29.040 with Latinos.

00:16:30.500 This decisive

00:16:31.340 Trump victory

00:16:32.280 was dependent

00:16:32.960 of those

00:16:33.760 once thought of

00:16:34.580 as core

00:16:35.460 Democratic

00:16:36.540 constituencies.

00:16:38.120 And we'll talk

00:16:38.560 a little bit

00:16:38.960 more about that

00:16:39.840 towards the end

00:16:40.380 of the show,

00:16:41.080 but as a result

00:16:42.020 of this historic

00:16:43.700 rightward shift,

00:16:45.260 we're beginning

00:16:45.740 to see everybody

00:16:46.900 come out of the

00:16:47.740 woodwork,

00:16:48.540 hoping that

00:16:49.080 President Donald

00:16:49.960 Trump and the

00:16:50.640 Magnum movement

00:16:51.360 has short

00:16:52.760 memories.

00:16:54.420 Yesterday,

00:16:54.940 President Trump

00:16:55.600 named his

00:16:56.740 co-campaign manager

00:16:57.880 Susie Wiles

00:16:58.740 as the incoming

00:17:00.020 White House

00:17:00.500 chief of staff,

00:17:01.540 and what a

00:17:02.300 wonderful pick

00:17:02.960 that is.

00:17:03.540 The first

00:17:04.440 female to serve 0.97

00:17:06.000 as a White House

00:17:06.920 chief of staff,

00:17:08.760 Susie is

00:17:09.340 brilliant,

00:17:10.480 she's capable,

00:17:12.000 and what a

00:17:12.960 terrific selection

00:17:14.040 that's going to be,

00:17:15.940 and President Trump

00:17:16.980 knows what to do

00:17:18.440 and how to save

00:17:19.120 this country,

00:17:20.320 and naming

00:17:20.740 Susie Wiles

00:17:21.580 is the perfect

00:17:23.380 selection.

00:17:25.200 But again,

00:17:25.600 that's not going

00:17:26.200 to stop

00:17:26.660 even the

00:17:27.740 people that

00:17:28.920 turned into

00:17:29.320 never-Trumpers

00:17:30.180 from wanting

00:17:30.880 to serve

00:17:32.020 in this

00:17:32.400 historic

00:17:33.340 second term.

00:17:35.600 And that

00:17:35.860 includes,

00:17:36.800 ladies and 0.98

00:17:37.380 gentlemen,

00:17:38.620 a backbencher,

00:17:40.220 no-name U.S.

00:17:41.400 congressman

00:17:41.860 from Kansas

00:17:43.220 who then became

00:17:44.160 CIA director

00:17:45.160 and then

00:17:46.240 secretary of state

00:17:47.820 under President

00:17:48.960 Trump's first

00:17:49.660 administration.

00:17:50.220 That's none

00:17:50.780 other than

00:17:51.800 Mike Pompeo

00:17:53.240 who spent

00:17:54.140 the last

00:17:54.540 couple of

00:17:54.980 years bashing

00:17:56.080 President Trump

00:17:57.280 and after

00:17:58.020 Tuesday night's

00:17:58.840 historic victory

00:18:00.460 and landslide.

00:18:01.860 Guess who's

00:18:02.220 knocking on the

00:18:03.040 door wanting

00:18:03.880 to serve

00:18:04.680 in his

00:18:05.480 administration?

00:18:06.520 But we

00:18:07.040 cannot forget

00:18:07.900 what Mike

00:18:08.620 Pompeo said

00:18:09.760 about President

00:18:10.440 Trump during

00:18:11.600 that unconstitutional

00:18:12.900 Mar-a-Lago

00:18:14.440 raid not too

00:18:16.060 long ago.

00:18:16.780 Let's watch

00:18:17.360 this clip.

00:18:18.780 What Donald

00:18:19.380 Trump is facing

00:18:20.260 and is it

00:18:21.000 right to

00:18:21.460 charge him?

00:18:23.860 Brian, good

00:18:24.440 morning.

00:18:24.740 Great to be

00:18:25.160 with you.

00:18:26.040 Two things I

00:18:26.960 think are both

00:18:27.640 true at this

00:18:28.500 point.

00:18:29.020 First, if the

00:18:30.000 allegations are

00:18:30.580 true and there's

00:18:31.180 lots of

00:18:31.620 indications that

00:18:32.280 they are,

00:18:33.180 President Trump

00:18:33.720 had classified

00:18:34.320 documents where

00:18:35.080 he shouldn't

00:18:35.580 have had them

00:18:36.060 and then when

00:18:36.920 given the

00:18:37.240 opportunity to

00:18:37.760 return them,

00:18:38.160 he chose not

00:18:38.900 to do that

00:18:39.360 for whatever

00:18:39.960 reason.

00:18:40.380 That's just,

00:18:41.060 Brian, you

00:18:41.380 talked about me

00:18:42.140 having classified

00:18:42.840 documents.

00:18:43.260 I handled

00:18:43.500 thousands and

00:18:44.140 thousands of

00:18:44.680 them over my

00:18:45.620 time in

00:18:46.100 Congress and

00:18:46.660 then as a

00:18:47.240 CIA director

00:18:47.780 and secretary of

00:18:48.440 state.

00:18:48.640 I suppose we

00:18:49.840 can all make

00:18:50.220 mistakes and get

00:18:50.820 them to the

00:18:51.100 wrong place,

00:18:51.560 but when

00:18:51.780 somebody identifies

00:18:52.540 that, you

00:18:52.960 got to turn

00:18:53.400 them in.

00:18:53.840 And so that's

00:18:54.200 just, that's

00:18:54.960 inconsistent with

00:18:55.680 protecting America's

00:18:56.600 soldiers, sailors,

00:18:57.440 airmen, and

00:18:57.860 Marines.

00:18:58.160 And if the

00:18:59.120 allegations are

00:18:59.740 true, some of

00:19:00.160 these were

00:19:00.380 pretty serious,

00:19:01.520 important documents.

00:19:02.400 So that's

00:19:02.740 wrong.

00:19:03.060 invoking the

00:19:05.580 invoking the

00:19:06.760 safety of our

00:19:07.720 soldiers, American

00:19:09.720 soldiers, and his

00:19:10.720 criticism of

00:19:11.460 President Trump

00:19:12.260 and that

00:19:13.220 unconstitutional

00:19:14.180 Mar-a-Lago

00:19:14.900 raid is

00:19:15.880 outrageous.

00:19:17.680 Our own

00:19:18.180 Roger Stone

00:19:18.920 actually just

00:19:19.520 published today a

00:19:20.840 piece in

00:19:21.300 stonecoldtruth.com,

00:19:22.600 and I encourage

00:19:23.100 all of you to

00:19:23.760 check it out.

00:19:24.540 It's titled

00:19:24.900 Why President

00:19:25.600 Trump Cannot

00:19:26.820 Trust Mike

00:19:28.180 Pompeo.

00:19:29.540 Again, that

00:19:31.220 case has been

00:19:32.140 dismissed by a

00:19:33.640 judge.

00:19:34.100 Why?

00:19:34.700 Because the

00:19:35.140 appointment of

00:19:36.000 Jack Smith was

00:19:37.240 unconstitutional.

00:19:38.980 And we cannot

00:19:39.560 forget this

00:19:40.920 two-tiered

00:19:42.260 justice system,

00:19:44.240 one for

00:19:44.620 President, one

00:19:45.360 that targets

00:19:46.040 President Trump,

00:19:48.100 the other that

00:19:49.260 lets people go

00:19:50.040 free.

00:19:50.740 We cannot

00:19:51.280 forget, do you

00:19:52.220 remember the

00:19:52.980 Hillary Clinton

00:19:53.740 server issue,

00:19:55.140 where in fact she

00:19:56.280 did have classified

00:19:57.920 documents,

00:19:58.840 documents on

00:19:59.100 this secret

00:20:00.060 server that

00:20:00.680 nobody knew

00:20:01.660 about, and

00:20:02.700 that these very

00:20:03.940 sensitive documents

00:20:05.100 were in fact

00:20:05.760 identified in

00:20:07.260 this server that

00:20:08.000 was not on

00:20:08.620 U.S.

00:20:09.420 government

00:20:09.720 property.

00:20:10.680 And what

00:20:10.940 happened to

00:20:11.280 Hillary Clinton?

00:20:12.300 Absolutely

00:20:12.880 nothing.

00:20:13.900 We also remember

00:20:14.660 President Joe

00:20:15.360 Biden being in

00:20:17.060 possession of

00:20:17.720 classified documents,

00:20:19.360 documents that

00:20:19.900 were in his

00:20:20.420 office after he

00:20:21.580 left the vice

00:20:22.140 presidency, that

00:20:23.340 were in his

00:20:23.660 office that were

00:20:24.140 just down the

00:20:24.780 street from the

00:20:25.840 White House on

00:20:26.500 Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:20:27.520 What happened to

00:20:29.320 that case?

00:20:30.520 Nothing.

00:20:31.540 We also learned

00:20:32.800 that President Joe

00:20:34.160 Biden had

00:20:34.740 classified documents

00:20:36.620 in boxes stacked

00:20:38.680 in his garage next

00:20:40.280 to his Corvette.

00:20:42.300 And what was

00:20:42.860 President Joe

00:20:43.920 Biden's response?

00:20:44.880 That these

00:20:45.220 classified documents

00:20:46.400 are under lock

00:20:47.700 and key.

00:20:48.980 Again, this is

00:20:49.580 his garage.

00:20:51.140 Anybody can walk

00:20:52.240 into his garage,

00:20:53.240 and yet he has

00:20:54.380 classified documents

00:20:55.580 in those boxes.

00:20:57.640 Again, what

00:20:58.160 happened to

00:20:59.140 Joe Biden?

00:21:00.260 Absolutely

00:21:00.680 nothing.

00:21:01.680 And so, instead

00:21:02.600 of defending a

00:21:04.100 man, President

00:21:05.300 Trump, and

00:21:06.540 saying, why is

00:21:07.660 there this two-tiered

00:21:08.780 justice system,

00:21:09.880 this man who gave

00:21:10.780 you a job and

00:21:11.420 appointed you the

00:21:12.100 director of the

00:21:12.700 CIA, and then

00:21:13.960 subsequently the

00:21:14.880 secretary of state,

00:21:16.160 how do you thank

00:21:16.920 President Donald

00:21:17.600 J. Trump?

00:21:18.320 You go on

00:21:18.940 national TV, and

00:21:20.560 you attack him,

00:21:21.640 and you invoke

00:21:22.380 the safety of

00:21:23.820 American soldiers

00:21:24.800 because of these

00:21:25.480 classified documents

00:21:26.620 that President

00:21:27.180 Trump was in

00:21:28.180 possession of.

00:21:29.160 We cannot forget

00:21:30.100 that this Mar-a-Lago

00:21:31.420 raid, what was

00:21:32.980 the order that

00:21:33.620 was given?

00:21:34.360 To use deadly

00:21:35.400 force.

00:21:37.000 That's right, to

00:21:37.880 use deadly force

00:21:39.860 to go after

00:21:40.960 documents that were

00:21:41.760 in possession of

00:21:42.540 President Donald

00:21:43.600 Trump at Mar-a-Lago,

00:21:45.800 which, for those

00:21:46.700 of you that have

00:21:47.240 been there, is a

00:21:48.480 highly, highly

00:21:50.040 secure place,

00:21:52.860 home, resort,

00:21:54.800 it is flooded

00:21:56.420 with Secret

00:21:57.440 Service agents.

00:21:59.320 Nobody is

00:21:59.820 getting in and

00:22:00.400 out of that

00:22:00.980 property without

00:22:02.540 having to be

00:22:03.260 vetted by the

00:22:04.480 U.S.

00:22:05.260 Secret Service

00:22:06.080 background checks.

00:22:08.080 It is a secure

00:22:08.780 facility, and we

00:22:09.700 cannot forget that

00:22:10.880 Donald Trump was

00:22:12.020 the 45th

00:22:13.120 President of the

00:22:14.240 United States.

00:22:14.860 He's going to be

00:22:15.440 in possession of

00:22:16.420 these documents.

00:22:17.000 In fact, every

00:22:17.660 president and

00:22:18.720 vice president are

00:22:20.040 in possession of

00:22:21.200 such documents.

00:22:22.320 but to suggest

00:22:23.500 that President

00:22:24.100 Donald Trump

00:22:24.880 purposely kept

00:22:26.300 these documents

00:22:27.000 and, as a result,

00:22:28.200 our national

00:22:28.660 security interests,

00:22:30.000 our American

00:22:31.800 soldiers deployed

00:22:33.500 throughout the

00:22:34.100 world, that their

00:22:35.020 lives are in

00:22:35.820 danger, that

00:22:36.460 American lives

00:22:37.680 are in danger,

00:22:38.460 that our allies'

00:22:39.520 lives are in

00:22:41.160 danger because

00:22:41.720 President Trump

00:22:42.580 had these

00:22:43.320 classified documents

00:22:44.260 at Mar-a-Lago

00:22:44.940 is simply

00:22:45.960 outrageous.

00:22:47.880 And shame on

00:22:48.660 Mike Pompeo for

00:22:49.900 not sticking up for

00:22:50.780 President Donald

00:22:51.400 Trump.

00:22:52.060 Again, a case

00:22:52.820 that was later

00:22:53.800 dismissed, totally

00:22:55.800 dismissed, because

00:22:57.120 there wasn't a

00:22:58.440 case.

00:22:59.500 And now you've

00:22:59.980 got Jack Smith

00:23:00.740 that's essentially

00:23:01.640 going to dismiss

00:23:02.360 all the other

00:23:03.320 federal cases

00:23:04.320 against President

00:23:05.300 Trump after his

00:23:06.140 election as the

00:23:07.980 47th President

00:23:08.980 of the United

00:23:09.400 States.

00:23:10.220 What does this

00:23:10.740 prove, ladies and 1.00

00:23:11.540 gentlemen?

00:23:12.160 This proves that

00:23:13.280 Jack Smith and

00:23:14.840 these corrupt 0.85

00:23:15.480 federal prosecutors

00:23:16.360 were not doing

00:23:17.360 the work of

00:23:17.980 the DOJ.

00:23:19.360 Instead, they

00:23:20.140 were doing the

00:23:20.660 work of the

00:23:21.700 DNC.

00:23:23.100 And again, it

00:23:23.660 is outrageous

00:23:24.500 for Mike Pompeo

00:23:26.220 to go after

00:23:27.520 President Trump

00:23:28.280 to say these

00:23:29.020 things, these

00:23:29.840 harmful things,

00:23:30.980 and then fast

00:23:31.980 forward, now

00:23:33.460 wanting to serve

00:23:34.340 in his

00:23:35.360 administration.

00:23:36.340 I mean, this is

00:23:36.760 essentially just a

00:23:37.500 female version of 0.99

00:23:38.460 Nikki Haley, but

00:23:39.600 I encourage

00:23:40.320 everybody, everybody

00:23:42.360 to check out

00:23:43.220 Roger Stone's

00:23:44.040 op-ed on this,

00:23:45.200 Why President

00:23:45.780 Trump Cannot

00:23:47.080 Trust Mike

00:23:47.700 Pompeo.

00:23:48.260 Go to

00:23:48.600 stonecoldtruth.com

00:23:51.500 and you'll find

00:23:52.640 more information

00:23:53.800 about that.

00:23:54.400 But again, I

00:23:54.840 think that is

00:23:55.380 what has led

00:23:56.460 to the

00:23:57.740 giant mandate

00:23:59.580 that President

00:24:00.300 Trump has

00:24:01.500 going into his

00:24:02.820 inauguration in

00:24:03.820 January, is

00:24:04.920 because Americans 0.99

00:24:05.720 are sick and

00:24:06.380 tired of these

00:24:06.880 two-tiered

00:24:07.860 justice systems.

00:24:09.060 They're tired of

00:24:09.700 the fact that

00:24:10.860 federal corrupt

00:24:11.860 prosecutors are

00:24:13.400 going after one

00:24:14.280 man because of

00:24:15.260 his politics,

00:24:16.060 and he's the

00:24:16.480 opponent of Joe

00:24:17.680 Biden and

00:24:18.220 Kambala Harris,

00:24:19.300 yet leaving

00:24:19.840 everybody else

00:24:21.980 alone.

00:24:22.920 Americans are

00:24:23.500 sick and tired

00:24:24.120 of having to

00:24:25.100 pay too much

00:24:25.700 for gas and

00:24:26.920 for groceries.

00:24:27.660 The American

00:24:28.160 dream is

00:24:29.040 dead.

00:24:30.680 And this is

00:24:31.280 why, ladies 1.00

00:24:32.120 and gentlemen,

00:24:32.580 that President

00:24:32.960 Trump has

00:24:33.720 received so

00:24:34.340 much support

00:24:35.160 within the

00:24:35.920 Black and

00:24:36.880 Latino

00:24:37.360 communities.

00:24:38.440 That's not

00:24:39.060 accidental.

00:24:40.900 And so you'd

00:24:41.560 expect at a

00:24:42.760 time like this

00:24:43.540 everybody who's

00:24:45.080 within President

00:24:46.420 Trump's personal

00:24:47.280 orbit is receiving

00:24:48.640 phone calls from

00:24:49.700 people that they

00:24:50.520 haven't even heard

00:24:51.160 from in four

00:24:52.560 years, who are

00:24:53.620 all scratching and

00:24:54.920 clawing and begging 0.81

00:24:56.260 like dogs to get

00:24:57.940 these jobs within the

00:24:59.060 Trump administration

00:24:59.940 because they know

00:25:01.700 that this is such a

00:25:02.560 historic time in

00:25:04.660 America and that

00:25:05.860 under President

00:25:06.780 Trump's policies on

00:25:08.400 day one, we will

00:25:09.760 make America great

00:25:11.060 again.

00:25:11.360 We will make

00:25:12.280 America prosperous

00:25:13.460 again.

00:25:14.200 We will make

00:25:14.760 America safe

00:25:15.900 again.

00:25:16.340 And we will make

00:25:17.240 America respected

00:25:19.020 again.

00:25:20.660 We have other

00:25:22.460 and very important

00:25:23.960 breaking news

00:25:24.720 actually coming out

00:25:25.660 of Illinois.

00:25:27.180 And we're going to

00:25:27.840 be having a special

00:25:29.080 guest here in the

00:25:29.820 next couple of

00:25:30.640 minutes, Richard

00:25:32.040 Pearson, the

00:25:33.060 Executive Director

00:25:33.900 of the Illinois

00:25:34.500 State Rifle

00:25:35.800 Association.

00:25:36.720 And there's some

00:25:37.560 important news.

00:25:38.880 Why?

00:25:39.580 Because in

00:25:40.100 Illinois, where

00:25:41.100 Governor J.B.

00:25:41.980 Pritzker, who

00:25:42.660 routinely attacks

00:25:44.840 President Trump,

00:25:46.280 and as you can

00:25:46.880 see here, he is

00:25:48.120 Illinois' 450-pound

00:25:50.200 health czar who

00:25:51.660 shut down the

00:25:53.040 city, shut down

00:25:54.820 the entire state

00:25:55.800 during the

00:25:56.320 pandemic, who

00:25:57.520 forced businesses

00:25:59.340 out of business,

00:26:00.520 who kept children

00:26:01.680 out of classrooms

00:26:03.080 and in remote

00:26:04.480 learning, and

00:26:05.440 then forced

00:26:06.020 children to wear

00:26:06.840 masks, wear both

00:26:09.360 lives and

00:26:10.060 livelihoods, were

00:26:11.300 destroyed, who's

00:26:12.680 allowed millions

00:26:15.200 of 35,000,

00:26:17.560 40,000 illegal

00:26:19.560 migrants to come 0.62

00:26:20.960 into the city of

00:26:21.840 Chicago.

00:26:22.440 And as a result,

00:26:23.620 crime has skyrocketed.

00:26:25.940 They've spent nearly

00:26:26.740 $500 million to

00:26:29.840 house and to

00:26:31.160 clothe and to

00:26:32.300 feed these

00:26:33.460 migrants, while 1.00

00:26:34.900 Governor Pritzker's

00:26:36.280 own citizens, his 0.91

00:26:37.780 own residents, his

00:26:38.740 own constituents, are

00:26:40.160 starving, are

00:26:41.580 dying, are

00:26:43.160 homeless and out on

00:26:44.480 the streets, and

00:26:45.140 this includes our

00:26:45.860 veterans.

00:26:46.920 Men and women who

00:26:47.900 have served our

00:26:48.580 country honorably are

00:26:50.100 finding themselves in

00:26:51.340 tough times, or

00:26:52.580 women who are 1.00

00:26:53.440 single moms, who 1.00

00:26:56.100 are domestic abuse

00:26:57.460 victims, who are

00:26:59.000 looking for new

00:26:59.860 government housing,

00:27:01.380 and what has

00:27:02.140 happened to them?

00:27:02.740 They've been placed

00:27:03.480 at the back of

00:27:04.120 the line.

00:27:04.620 Why?

00:27:05.360 Because these

00:27:06.120 migrants that 0.99

00:27:06.840 Governor Pritzker has

00:27:07.880 welcomed into

00:27:08.840 Illinois as a

00:27:10.140 sanctuary state and

00:27:11.120 as a sanctuary city

00:27:12.600 in Chicago, they've

00:27:13.940 taken precedent over

00:27:15.640 our own

00:27:16.320 residents.

00:27:17.580 And so Governor

00:27:18.440 Pritzker continues to

00:27:19.980 not only attack

00:27:20.920 President Trump, but

00:27:22.680 he continues to

00:27:23.340 attack the MAGA

00:27:24.680 movement, and he's

00:27:25.900 had some choice

00:27:26.540 words for the MAGA

00:27:27.340 movement over the

00:27:28.240 last couple of

00:27:29.400 days, warning

00:27:30.700 Illinoisans not to

00:27:32.220 fear this very

00:27:33.880 dangerous agenda

00:27:34.960 that President

00:27:35.500 Trump has

00:27:36.600 created.

00:27:37.320 But he is the

00:27:38.460 wealthiest governor

00:27:40.440 in the state of

00:27:41.440 Illinois who also

00:27:42.200 has presidential

00:27:43.560 ambitions.

00:27:45.600 And part of those

00:27:46.280 presidential ambitions

00:27:47.180 is to go after not

00:27:48.400 only your First

00:27:49.040 Amendment rights, but

00:27:50.220 your Second

00:27:50.760 Amendment rights.

00:27:52.020 And Illinois has

00:27:52.820 really become the

00:27:54.380 ground zero of the

00:27:56.400 battle to save the

00:27:57.920 Second Amendment in

00:27:59.080 America, because we

00:28:00.080 have the most

00:28:00.560 outspoken governor, we

00:28:02.240 have the wealthiest

00:28:03.580 governor, we also

00:28:05.020 have a governor whose

00:28:05.900 political ambitions

00:28:07.060 are as wide as

00:28:09.080 his waistline.

00:28:10.500 And so just a

00:28:11.220 couple of years

00:28:11.740 ago, he signed

00:28:12.920 a law essentially

00:28:14.440 banning assault

00:28:16.260 weapons.

00:28:17.320 The irony is that

00:28:18.540 his own party

00:28:19.440 can't even define

00:28:21.200 a woman, yet how

00:28:23.560 do you expect them

00:28:24.240 to define an

00:28:25.700 assault weapon?

00:28:27.260 And so his

00:28:28.540 legislative agenda

00:28:29.820 agenda as governor

00:28:30.540 in Illinois has

00:28:32.020 not only been to

00:28:32.880 raise taxes and

00:28:34.280 hurt everyday

00:28:34.900 hardworking

00:28:35.640 Illinoisans, to

00:28:37.140 preside over a

00:28:38.000 failing school

00:28:38.680 system, to

00:28:40.100 preside over a

00:28:40.900 city where

00:28:41.500 businesses and

00:28:43.240 people are

00:28:43.700 leaving in

00:28:44.780 droves.

00:28:46.120 He's also

00:28:47.020 laying the

00:28:48.220 groundwork to

00:28:49.600 allow illegals to

00:28:52.020 continue to come

00:28:52.700 into our state.

00:28:53.840 And he's also

00:28:54.820 going after our

00:28:55.640 Second Amendment

00:28:56.560 rights because he

00:28:57.300 feels that these

00:28:57.920 issues will give

00:28:59.280 him a national

00:29:00.120 profile to then

00:29:01.760 pivot and run

00:29:03.320 for, you got

00:29:04.760 it, the

00:29:05.640 presidency of the

00:29:06.620 United States.

00:29:07.300 When was the

00:29:07.720 last time that

00:29:08.720 America elected a 0.97

00:29:09.860 450-pound man?

00:29:11.680 He is going to

00:29:12.300 make Howard Taft,

00:29:13.400 who in modern

00:29:14.680 presidential history

00:29:15.440 was the largest

00:29:16.360 president in

00:29:17.860 American history,

00:29:18.620 he's going to

00:29:19.160 make President

00:29:20.760 Taft look like a

00:29:22.080 supermodel.

00:29:22.960 But again,

00:29:23.500 Governor J.B.

00:29:24.380 Prisker has no 1.00

00:29:25.740 chance at

00:29:27.140 ever being

00:29:28.440 elected president

00:29:29.500 of the United

00:29:29.840 States.

00:29:30.280 The Democratic

00:29:30.880 Party just wants

00:29:32.360 his fat checks.

00:29:34.320 They don't want 0.96

00:29:34.980 the fat guy. 0.91

00:29:36.900 And so we'll

00:29:37.400 have more on

00:29:37.960 that.

00:29:38.260 But we're going

00:29:39.040 to invite right

00:29:40.300 now Richard

00:29:41.400 Pearson, executive

00:29:42.820 director of the

00:29:43.520 Illinois State

00:29:44.640 Rifle Association,

00:29:45.540 who's got some

00:29:46.900 really exciting

00:29:47.700 news to share

00:29:49.480 that literally

00:29:50.040 just broke in

00:29:51.780 Illinois about a

00:29:52.900 court case

00:29:54.200 regarding PICA, 0.80

00:29:56.860 which is essentially

00:29:57.840 the assault

00:29:58.400 weapons bill

00:30:00.680 that J.B.

00:30:02.360 Prisker signed

00:30:02.920 into law just a

00:30:04.020 couple of years

00:30:04.460 ago.

00:30:04.740 So let's welcome

00:30:05.340 Richard Pearson

00:30:06.560 to The Stone

00:30:08.600 Zone.

00:30:09.080 Richard, thank

00:30:10.180 you for joining

00:30:11.100 us here on The

00:30:12.380 Stone Zone with

00:30:13.260 Roger Stone.

00:30:14.580 How are you?

00:30:16.140 I'm great.

00:30:16.760 How are you?

00:30:18.000 It's great to

00:30:18.720 have you.

00:30:19.080 There's some

00:30:19.380 great news.

00:30:19.980 I noticed you've

00:30:20.500 got a little

00:30:20.880 bounce in your

00:30:21.600 step and a

00:30:22.240 little smile

00:30:22.960 today, Richard.

00:30:25.320 Yes, I do.

00:30:26.960 I have that in

00:30:28.520 my step and

00:30:29.220 my smile.

00:30:30.640 We had great

00:30:31.300 news today.

00:30:32.940 Give us a

00:30:33.500 date on that.

00:30:35.720 Well, we had

00:30:36.940 the Harrell

00:30:38.060 case, Harrell

00:30:38.900 versus Raul,

00:30:39.880 Raul being the

00:30:41.300 attorney general

00:30:42.940 of the state

00:30:43.480 of Illinois.

00:30:45.240 And we

00:30:46.720 prevailed in

00:30:47.420 that case.

00:30:48.740 The entire

00:30:49.360 so-called

00:30:50.320 assault weapons

00:30:51.100 ban, which

00:30:51.600 is any

00:30:51.960 semi-automatic

00:30:52.940 anything that

00:30:53.700 they can

00:30:53.980 define, was

00:30:55.800 declared

00:30:56.420 unconstitutional.

00:30:57.620 And the

00:30:57.900 registration scheme

00:30:59.240 that went with

00:31:00.360 it has also

00:31:00.980 been declared

00:31:01.580 unconstitutional.

00:31:03.300 So that's

00:31:04.080 really great

00:31:04.640 news.

00:31:05.040 It's been a

00:31:05.460 long, hard

00:31:06.040 fight.

00:31:06.900 We know that

00:31:07.600 the fight has

00:31:08.300 not ended,

00:31:09.400 that we will be

00:31:10.340 going to the

00:31:10.940 Seventh Circuit,

00:31:11.780 but, and

00:31:13.420 we are

00:31:13.760 intending to

00:31:14.500 take this

00:31:14.960 case

00:31:15.300 clear to

00:31:15.760 the Supreme

00:31:16.220 Court.

00:31:17.340 And so we

00:31:17.920 intend to

00:31:18.520 do this and

00:31:19.180 make this

00:31:19.780 decision, the

00:31:20.540 law of the

00:31:20.980 land, if we

00:31:21.500 can get it

00:31:21.880 done.

00:31:23.780 Richard, what's

00:31:24.880 interesting is

00:31:25.620 that in

00:31:26.100 Illinois,

00:31:27.540 Democrats have

00:31:28.180 a hard time

00:31:28.620 defining a

00:31:29.240 woman, let 1.00

00:31:29.740 alone an

00:31:30.300 assault weapons

00:31:31.420 ban.

00:31:31.940 What challenges

00:31:32.660 have Governor

00:31:34.300 Pritzker and

00:31:35.060 these anti-gun

00:31:36.560 Democrats that 0.57

00:31:37.620 passed this

00:31:38.640 law, passed

00:31:40.020 this legislation

00:31:40.760 throughout the

00:31:41.260 Illinois State

00:31:41.760 Legislature, what

00:31:42.900 challenge have

00:31:43.500 they had trying

00:31:44.200 to answer these

00:31:44.920 questions, these

00:31:45.840 very simple and

00:31:47.120 basic questions

00:31:47.820 like, excuse

00:31:48.620 me, Mr.

00:31:49.160 Legislator, what

00:31:49.860 is, can you

00:31:50.840 define an

00:31:51.860 assault weapon?

00:31:53.040 What challenges

00:31:53.780 have they had

00:31:54.280 with that so

00:31:54.720 far, Richard?

00:31:55.900 Well, they have

00:31:56.640 a lot of

00:31:57.040 challenges because

00:31:57.740 the assault

00:31:58.240 weapon is a

00:31:59.000 made-up term.

00:32:00.320 There's no such

00:32:00.880 thing as an

00:32:01.540 assault weapon

00:32:02.260 that a citizen

00:32:03.180 can have.

00:32:04.380 Now, one of

00:32:05.120 those things that

00:32:05.760 would be a

00:32:06.300 bandolier torpedo,

00:32:08.140 those are

00:32:08.840 assault weapons,

00:32:09.660 but only the

00:32:11.600 Army can have

00:32:12.360 those, the

00:32:12.860 Marine Corps, the

00:32:13.640 U.S.

00:32:14.080 military can have

00:32:14.920 those.

00:32:15.740 So the whole

00:32:17.060 thing is a

00:32:18.020 farce.

00:32:18.660 It was designed

00:32:19.360 to scare

00:32:19.940 people, scare

00:32:21.840 the soccer moms

00:32:22.700 and dads in

00:32:23.440 the state of

00:32:24.500 Illinois and

00:32:25.020 across the

00:32:25.540 country, and

00:32:26.660 it's finally

00:32:27.120 starting to

00:32:27.700 break through

00:32:28.260 that this is

00:32:28.940 a made-up

00:32:29.400 term, and

00:32:30.800 it's going to

00:32:32.620 be declared

00:32:33.120 unconstitutional

00:32:33.940 eventually.

00:32:34.440 This really

00:32:36.480 is a massive

00:32:37.960 victory in

00:32:39.440 Illinois, but

00:32:40.200 Richard, Illinois

00:32:41.980 has the

00:32:42.540 wealthiest

00:32:43.320 governor in

00:32:44.040 America.

00:32:44.540 Governor Pritzker

00:32:45.000 is a

00:32:45.260 billionaire.

00:32:45.740 He inherited

00:32:46.320 $3.4 billion

00:32:48.000 from his

00:32:48.940 family who

00:32:50.080 created the

00:32:51.780 Hyatt Hotel's

00:32:53.880 fortune.

00:32:55.860 What sort of

00:32:56.940 ramifications do

00:32:57.960 you think that

00:32:58.520 this ruling in

00:33:00.680 Illinois could

00:33:01.480 potentially have

00:33:02.640 nationally?

00:33:03.580 Well,

00:33:05.140 nationally, if

00:33:06.420 we go to the

00:33:07.060 United States

00:33:07.680 Supreme Court,

00:33:09.060 we're also

00:33:09.780 waiting on the

00:33:10.400 Maryland case,

00:33:11.280 which is already

00:33:12.080 there, and so

00:33:13.780 if we put this

00:33:14.800 case and our

00:33:15.540 case and maybe

00:33:16.320 a case from

00:33:17.000 California together,

00:33:19.100 we could look

00:33:20.060 for a national

00:33:21.260 court decision

00:33:22.300 that will be the

00:33:23.400 law of the land

00:33:24.160 that will prevent

00:33:25.080 governors like

00:33:26.040 Pritzker and

00:33:26.900 Hochul from New

00:33:28.840 York and others

00:33:29.780 to prevent

00:33:30.960 these firearms

00:33:33.080 from being

00:33:34.060 taken out of

00:33:34.760 the citizens'

00:33:35.540 hands.

00:33:36.800 So they're the

00:33:37.520 best thing in

00:33:38.180 the world for

00:33:38.780 self-defense.

00:33:39.860 They're used for 0.95

00:33:40.640 hunting.

00:33:41.120 They're used for 0.95

00:33:41.600 target shooting.

00:33:43.440 They have a

00:33:44.400 very, very low

00:33:45.700 incidence of

00:33:46.600 crime rate.

00:33:47.700 It's like 1.4%

00:33:49.400 of the crimes

00:33:50.980 ever committed

00:33:52.060 are used by

00:33:52.980 firearms like

00:33:54.400 these are used.

00:33:55.680 So the whole

00:33:56.720 thing is a

00:33:57.340 house of cards,

00:33:58.140 and it's finally

00:33:58.740 going to tumble

00:33:59.340 down.

00:34:01.320 Richard, what's

00:34:03.220 interesting is that

00:34:04.240 every shooting

00:34:06.780 that takes place,

00:34:08.260 any act of

00:34:09.260 violence that

00:34:09.760 includes a

00:34:10.380 firearm, these

00:34:11.620 anti-gun groups

00:34:12.600 automatically want

00:34:13.500 to blame the

00:34:15.440 law-abiding gun

00:34:16.700 owners and

00:34:17.300 organizations like

00:34:18.340 the NRA and

00:34:19.140 the Illinois

00:34:19.560 State Rifle

00:34:20.820 Association.

00:34:22.140 Illinois is

00:34:22.740 obviously, as you

00:34:23.580 know better than

00:34:24.140 anybody else, one

00:34:25.000 of the strictest

00:34:25.860 gun laws in the

00:34:28.220 country, yet

00:34:29.340 crime doesn't

00:34:30.200 seem to be

00:34:30.700 decreasing in

00:34:31.960 Illinois, particularly

00:34:32.740 in a city like

00:34:33.800 Chicago.

00:34:35.420 Where's this

00:34:36.280 difference where

00:34:37.020 the Democrats

00:34:37.760 think that creating

00:34:39.300 these gun laws are

00:34:40.180 going to make

00:34:40.500 people safer, but

00:34:41.260 in reality, they're

00:34:42.660 not.

00:34:43.100 They're simply just

00:34:43.960 targeting law-abiding

00:34:45.380 gun owners, men

00:34:46.520 and women, who 1.00

00:34:47.880 obey the law,

00:34:50.280 respect the law, and

00:34:51.160 just want to have

00:34:51.840 their firearms.

00:34:53.560 Well, it's even

00:34:54.640 more interesting

00:34:55.520 than that, because

00:34:56.560 these laws are

00:34:58.220 prevent a lot of

00:34:59.500 citizens from

00:35:00.280 owning firearms

00:35:01.280 and defend

00:35:01.860 themselves.

00:35:03.140 So I would

00:35:04.500 think that if I

00:35:05.460 was a gang

00:35:06.220 banger and I

00:35:07.540 found out that a

00:35:08.520 new firearm

00:35:09.440 law that

00:35:10.120 prevented firearms

00:35:11.180 of this type,

00:35:12.060 that type, was

00:35:13.220 enforced, it would

00:35:13.940 embolden me.

00:35:15.100 And it certainly

00:35:15.700 has.

00:35:16.180 It hasn't stopped

00:35:16.980 criminals.

00:35:17.860 Criminals don't 1.00

00:35:18.460 care.

00:35:19.120 They have no

00:35:19.680 conscience.

00:35:20.480 They have no

00:35:21.180 constraints, and

00:35:22.200 they don't fear

00:35:22.780 the law.

00:35:23.340 So they relish

00:35:26.020 these gun laws

00:35:27.400 that make it

00:35:29.500 hard to store

00:35:30.220 firearms or

00:35:31.120 hard to own

00:35:32.100 firearms.

00:35:33.440 They enjoy those

00:35:35.020 things because it

00:35:35.880 gives them more

00:35:36.520 freedom to rob and 0.99

00:35:37.480 kill and name as 1.00

00:35:38.260 they please. 1.00

00:35:40.540 For those of you

00:35:41.580 just joining, this

00:35:42.500 is Richard Pearson,

00:35:43.600 executive director of

00:35:44.620 the Illinois State

00:35:46.020 Rifle Association.

00:35:47.820 Richard, we

00:35:48.380 always, we know

00:35:49.240 that registration

00:35:51.020 historically leads

00:35:53.080 to confiscation,

00:35:54.720 particularly as it

00:35:55.300 relates to firearms.

00:35:56.840 And Governor

00:35:57.340 Pritzker's bill that

00:35:59.300 he signed into law,

00:36:00.980 he was requiring

00:36:02.000 gun owners in

00:36:04.280 Illinois to

00:36:04.900 actually register

00:36:06.240 their firearms in

00:36:07.740 this registry.

00:36:08.980 How did that

00:36:09.400 process go for

00:36:10.340 Governor Pritzker and

00:36:11.140 the Democrats of

00:36:12.060 having to register

00:36:13.200 their firearms?

00:36:16.380 Well, it didn't go

00:36:17.600 very well.

00:36:18.360 Apparently, only

00:36:19.400 1.2% of the

00:36:20.900 people registered

00:36:22.140 these types of

00:36:23.100 firearms.

00:36:24.840 Mine went to

00:36:26.360 Indiana for a

00:36:27.140 while.

00:36:27.980 And they may be

00:36:29.000 coming back soon,

00:36:30.000 I hope.

00:36:31.140 But, you know,

00:36:32.760 people weren't

00:36:33.700 putting up with

00:36:34.380 this.

00:36:34.780 Everybody knows

00:36:35.900 that registration

00:36:37.260 leads to

00:36:37.920 confiscation.

00:36:39.360 And all you're

00:36:40.200 doing is giving

00:36:41.020 the governor,

00:36:43.660 the bureaucrats,

00:36:44.660 the name and

00:36:45.080 address of where

00:36:45.700 your firearms are

00:36:46.640 located.

00:36:47.100 so they can

00:36:48.800 come and pick

00:36:49.360 them up easily.

00:36:50.560 And they'll pick

00:36:51.180 you off one by

00:36:52.080 one.

00:36:52.700 You know, if you

00:36:53.760 don't stand

00:36:54.320 together, you're

00:36:55.060 going to be

00:36:56.380 hanging separately.

00:36:58.120 So that's the

00:37:00.220 case here.

00:37:01.500 And in New York,

00:37:02.940 that's what

00:37:03.360 happened.

00:37:04.480 And Connecticut

00:37:05.560 has a similar law

00:37:06.700 and the governor

00:37:07.200 there has already

00:37:08.480 said that he is

00:37:09.200 interested in

00:37:09.820 confiscating these

00:37:10.720 firearms.

00:37:11.360 Now they know

00:37:12.780 where they are.

00:37:13.400 So people are

00:37:14.680 resisting this.

00:37:15.600 Gun owners aren't 1.00

00:37:16.320 falling for this

00:37:17.720 anymore.

00:37:20.380 Richard, you

00:37:21.400 know, Illinois

00:37:23.000 is so important.

00:37:23.840 I've mentioned

00:37:24.160 this earlier.

00:37:24.820 It's because the

00:37:25.700 White House, the

00:37:26.440 Biden White House,

00:37:27.320 has used this

00:37:28.660 legislation in

00:37:29.600 Illinois as sort

00:37:30.260 of the model

00:37:32.000 legislation to ban

00:37:34.180 assault weapons

00:37:35.720 nationally.

00:37:36.740 But the Illinois

00:37:38.400 State Rifle

00:37:38.940 Association has

00:37:39.900 been on the

00:37:40.880 front lines, not

00:37:42.340 only in the

00:37:43.060 media and the

00:37:44.320 press, but from

00:37:46.140 a legal standpoint

00:37:47.500 and challenging

00:37:48.380 cases in court.

00:37:52.260 Can you give the

00:37:53.660 Stone Zone

00:37:54.240 listeners just a

00:37:55.660 little flavor of

00:37:56.600 the court cases

00:37:58.680 that the Illinois

00:37:59.760 State Rifle

00:38:00.280 Association is a

00:38:01.380 part of as a

00:38:02.120 named plaintiff or

00:38:03.240 court cases that

00:38:04.280 you're currently

00:38:05.420 supporting?

00:38:07.540 Well, right now,

00:38:08.760 just to give you

00:38:09.440 an update, right

00:38:10.200 now, I believe we

00:38:11.140 have been involved

00:38:12.460 in 28 court cases,

00:38:14.520 some major, some

00:38:15.720 minor.

00:38:17.120 Right now, of

00:38:18.140 course, we are

00:38:18.700 involved in the

00:38:20.240 Harrell case, but

00:38:21.760 we're also involved

00:38:22.760 in a Schoenthal 0.97

00:38:23.580 case, which allows

00:38:24.840 people with

00:38:27.120 concealed carry

00:38:28.360 permits to carry

00:38:29.600 on public

00:38:30.140 transportation, which

00:38:31.260 is a big problem

00:38:32.180 in Illinois.

00:38:33.520 Public transportation

00:38:34.660 is just a

00:38:35.520 hunting ground

00:38:36.240 for criminals.

00:38:37.980 You can't escape

00:38:39.400 on a bus, you

00:38:40.220 can't escape on a

00:38:41.240 train, and you

00:38:42.320 can't defend

00:38:42.980 yourself, so you

00:38:44.980 are always a

00:38:46.400 parade for these

00:38:49.880 people.

00:38:51.260 As a matter of

00:38:51.980 fact, when we

00:38:52.560 held the hearing

00:38:53.500 several years ago

00:38:54.840 on public

00:38:56.380 transportation,

00:38:57.020 trying to get a

00:38:58.100 law passed that

00:38:58.860 allowed firearms to

00:39:00.860 be carried on

00:39:01.520 public transportation,

00:39:02.740 there were 32

00:39:04.160 robberies that

00:39:05.560 day on public

00:39:06.580 transportation, and

00:39:08.420 yet that didn't

00:39:09.340 pass.

00:39:10.580 But, so, this is

00:39:11.800 one of the cases.

00:39:12.780 We're also in a

00:39:13.700 case which involves

00:39:15.860 people who

00:39:16.720 registered, or

00:39:17.820 excuse me, bought

00:39:18.480 firearms during a

00:39:19.620 grace period, and

00:39:21.120 now the governor

00:39:22.180 says that, and the

00:39:23.420 state police say they

00:39:24.320 can't register those

00:39:25.400 firearms, so we're

00:39:26.940 involved in that

00:39:27.800 case.

00:39:28.260 We're involved in

00:39:29.680 possession cases of

00:39:31.020 all over the place

00:39:32.800 where housing

00:39:34.120 authorities have said

00:39:35.300 that even though

00:39:36.240 you're a law-abiding

00:39:37.040 citizen, you comply

00:39:38.120 with all the rules,

00:39:39.140 you can't own a

00:39:40.280 firearm in public

00:39:41.260 housing.

00:39:41.800 We've won three or

00:39:42.680 four of those cases.

00:39:45.940 We've been on the

00:39:46.920 front lines of every

00:39:48.200 case.

00:39:49.060 If it's a 0.59

00:39:49.900 constitutional case,

00:39:51.260 we will try to take

00:39:52.580 it up, and we will

00:39:53.200 try to defend the

00:39:54.300 Second Amendment and

00:39:55.340 the gun owners of

00:39:56.040 this state.

00:39:56.680 Several weeks

00:39:59.220 ago, Richard,

00:40:01.200 Illinois' very own

00:40:02.960 former Republican

00:40:04.160 congressman who's

00:40:05.000 been a fierce

00:40:06.440 critic of President

00:40:09.200 Donald Trump and

00:40:10.080 the MAGA movement

00:40:10.740 who spoke at the

00:40:11.400 Democratic National

00:40:12.120 Convention as a

00:40:13.340 former Republican

00:40:13.980 congressman in

00:40:14.780 August, he got

00:40:16.860 caught in sort of

00:40:17.980 an embarrassing

00:40:18.700 situation there

00:40:20.580 shooting a

00:40:22.460 firearm with a 0.99

00:40:24.520 Democrat Senate

00:40:25.520 candidate who

00:40:26.080 ended up losing

00:40:26.800 their race.

00:40:28.760 Tell us about

00:40:29.720 that incident,

00:40:30.700 Richard, and what

00:40:31.480 the response was

00:40:32.600 from your

00:40:33.600 organization, the

00:40:34.340 Illinois State

00:40:34.820 Rifle Association.

00:40:37.360 Well, his name

00:40:38.620 was Adam Kinzinger,

00:40:40.080 and he was firing

00:40:41.680 an AR-15, which he

00:40:43.440 wants to ban, but

00:40:45.500 it's okay for him

00:40:46.360 to have them, I

00:40:46.820 guess.

00:40:47.500 And he was using

00:40:48.360 steel targets at

00:40:49.520 about seven or

00:40:50.660 eight yards, which

00:40:53.500 you can't use

00:40:54.560 that at that

00:40:55.940 distance.

00:40:56.360 The range for

00:40:57.500 safety is 100

00:40:58.660 yards.

00:40:59.800 And one of the

00:41:00.500 people in the

00:41:02.500 press got hit by

00:41:04.120 a jacket from a

00:41:05.460 bullet.

00:41:06.440 And, of course,

00:41:07.140 they made a big

00:41:08.240 deal about patching

00:41:09.300 the guy up and all

00:41:10.180 that kind of stuff.

00:41:10.960 But the fact was,

00:41:12.180 he broke all the

00:41:13.060 firearm safety rules.

00:41:15.060 And so we, being the

00:41:16.940 Magnetons, the group

00:41:18.000 we are, offered to

00:41:19.440 give Kinzinger free

00:41:20.980 firearm safety

00:41:22.020 lessons.

00:41:22.640 We're only about

00:41:23.400 30 miles from his

00:41:24.440 house, so we were

00:41:25.880 able to do this, and

00:41:26.880 I'm sure he'll drop

00:41:27.600 by any time and make

00:41:28.760 an appointment, and

00:41:29.980 we can actually teach

00:41:30.960 him how to use the

00:41:31.880 firearm that he wants

00:41:32.880 to ban properly.

00:41:35.300 I love that, giving

00:41:36.840 Adam Kinzinger a

00:41:38.440 firearm and safety

00:41:39.960 lessons.

00:41:41.100 And, you know, that is

00:41:41.880 the irony and the 0.74

00:41:43.620 hypocrisy that he has

00:41:45.240 publicly called for an 0.84

00:41:46.540 assault weapons ban,

00:41:48.040 and particularly the

00:41:49.080 firearm that he was

00:41:50.560 using just a couple of

00:41:53.040 weeks ago.

00:41:53.780 So it's okay for him to

00:41:55.160 publicly talk about

00:41:56.080 banning these

00:41:56.640 particular firearms, but

00:41:58.640 privately it's okay to 0.99

00:41:59.860 be shooting them and 0.99

00:42:02.000 at steel targets within 0.99

00:42:03.880 short, close range.

00:42:05.780 That resulted in a

00:42:06.600 reporter covering this

00:42:08.020 event, essentially

00:42:09.040 getting shot and hit

00:42:09.860 by shrapnel, and we're

00:42:11.740 so glad that he's okay,

00:42:13.480 but that's a very

00:42:14.680 clever response from

00:42:15.700 the Illinois State

00:42:16.280 Rifle Association.

00:42:17.100 Richard, I've just

00:42:18.480 got one more question.

00:42:20.220 What's that?

00:42:20.560 Go ahead, Richard.

00:42:22.020 Well, I was just

00:42:23.000 going to say that we

00:42:24.680 have a two-tiered

00:42:25.860 justice system, but we

00:42:27.120 also have a two-tiered

00:42:28.540 rights system for those

00:42:30.340 who should have rights

00:42:31.740 and those people like me 1.00

00:42:33.240 who are just garbage. 1.00

00:42:35.380 Just garbage. 1.00

00:42:36.320 That's right. 0.99

00:42:36.660 Richard, real quick,

00:42:38.600 because I think it's

00:42:39.480 important for our

00:42:40.200 listeners and Stone

00:42:42.640 Zone viewers that may

00:42:44.480 not always be living in

00:42:45.960 a red state, a state

00:42:47.940 with a Republican

00:42:48.980 governor or a pro-

00:42:51.540 Second Amendment

00:42:52.460 governor, but Illinois

00:42:54.760 has got an anti-gun

00:42:56.160 governor, an anti-gun

00:42:57.420 legislature, both in

00:42:58.980 the House and the

00:42:59.540 Senate.

00:43:00.260 In Illinois, they have a

00:43:01.720 supermajority control,

00:43:04.240 and so I think that

00:43:05.020 what's important for

00:43:05.840 people to understand is

00:43:06.840 that what happens in

00:43:07.880 Illinois is a model that 0.97

00:43:10.000 is what other anti-gun

00:43:11.700 groups and governors and

00:43:13.180 legislators throughout the

00:43:14.160 country could use as

00:43:15.660 their model of what's

00:43:16.700 happening in Illinois in

00:43:18.280 the legislature.

00:43:19.460 Richard, just tell us an

00:43:21.060 idea of what some of the

00:43:22.540 legislation that has been

00:43:24.680 proposed over the last

00:43:25.780 couple of years, I

00:43:27.180 believe drivers going

00:43:28.640 after driver's licenses,

00:43:30.320 if you can explain that

00:43:31.440 just a little bit, because

00:43:32.260 this is much bigger than

00:43:33.300 just a so-called

00:43:35.100 assault weapons ban.

00:43:36.420 This could have major

00:43:37.660 ramifications in one's

00:43:41.120 life as being just a

00:43:42.520 law-abiding gun owner.

00:43:43.460 So for our listeners and

00:43:45.360 our viewers, could you

00:43:46.120 give a kind of a

00:43:46.720 perspective overview of

00:43:47.900 other sort of anti-gun,

00:43:50.140 anti-Second Amendment

00:43:50.960 legislation that's been

00:43:52.200 proposed in Illinois?

00:43:54.840 Well, in Illinois, you have

00:43:56.480 to have a firearm owner's

00:43:57.680 ID card, which is probably

00:44:00.480 going to be declared

00:44:01.340 unconsulted, constitutional

00:44:03.140 also sooner or later.

00:44:04.600 But the legislation said that

00:44:09.600 if you lose your firearm

00:44:10.880 owner's ID card, for

00:44:12.500 whatever reason you could

00:44:15.720 get it canceled, then you

00:44:17.640 would also lose your

00:44:18.600 driver's license.

00:44:20.380 So they would take the

00:44:21.600 literally the livelihood out

00:44:24.580 of many firearm owners and

00:44:26.520 their families simply because

00:44:28.600 they lost their FOID card.

00:44:30.040 A lot of FOID cards are done

00:44:32.940 by accident.

00:44:34.000 The cancellations are done

00:44:35.220 by accident.

00:44:36.200 It's a mistake, a case of

00:44:37.780 mistaken identity.

00:44:39.380 And so it's a hard, arduous

00:44:40.720 process to win all that

00:44:42.240 back.

00:44:42.940 In the meantime, you've got

00:44:44.000 no driver's license.

00:44:45.780 You can't get to work.

00:44:47.420 Maybe you drive for your job.

00:44:49.180 You can't do that either.

00:44:50.780 So that would be one of the

00:44:52.200 examples of legislation that

00:44:54.700 they have tried to pass.

00:44:57.160 There are others that we

00:44:58.820 have killed, but it deals

00:45:00.700 with registration schemes,

00:45:02.780 with taxes on ammunition,

00:45:04.400 extra taxes on firearms,

00:45:06.720 anything that they can do to

00:45:08.400 make it harder, more

00:45:10.280 embarrassing, and more

00:45:11.880 expensive to own a firearm.

00:45:15.100 Richard Pearson, Executive

00:45:16.920 Director of the Illinois

00:45:17.700 State Rifle Association.

00:45:19.300 Thank you for joining us here

00:45:20.580 on the Stone Zone.

00:45:21.740 Have a wonderful evening.

00:45:23.500 You too.

00:45:24.460 Thank you very much.

00:45:27.160 Again, that's a big victory

00:45:30.260 in Illinois and for law-abiding

00:45:33.000 gun owners that this law is

00:45:37.100 going to be deemed what we

00:45:38.800 believe, and it's still a

00:45:40.320 process, but unconstitutional,

00:45:42.180 that you cannot criminalize

00:45:44.360 firearm owners for having one

00:45:46.320 type of firearm and not the

00:45:48.260 other.

00:45:48.700 So we'll be following this very,

00:45:51.480 very closely.

00:45:52.080 But again, Illinois, the roadmap

00:45:54.960 for far-left, anti-American,

00:45:59.760 progressive, liberal policies.

00:46:02.860 Governor J.B.

00:46:03.700 Pritzker essentially paid for,

00:46:06.420 offered to pay for the entire

00:46:07.680 Democratic National Convention

00:46:09.180 in Chicago.

00:46:10.400 If you remember, it was between

00:46:11.580 Atlanta and Chicago, and

00:46:13.920 President Joe Biden ended up

00:46:15.800 choosing Chicago over Atlanta.

00:46:18.180 Do you want to know why?

00:46:19.140 Because J.B.

00:46:20.360 Pritzker picked up the telephone

00:46:22.140 and called Joe Biden and said,

00:46:24.500 if you choose Chicago as the

00:46:26.980 host of the 2024 Democratic

00:46:29.460 National Convention, you won't

00:46:32.620 have to pay for it.

00:46:33.580 If necessary, I'll pay for it out

00:46:35.700 of my own pocket.

00:46:37.180 That's a $100 million tab.

00:46:40.120 Pritzker was offering to pay for

00:46:41.540 it himself if necessary, but he

00:46:43.640 wanted that platform, that national

00:46:45.920 platform, to really build his brand,

00:46:48.960 his very big brand, in order to

00:46:51.680 lay the groundwork for a potential

00:46:55.440 presidential run.

00:46:56.880 But again, here in Illinois and

00:46:58.800 across the country, these anti-American,

00:47:01.720 anti-MAGA, anti-Trump political

00:47:04.860 leaders and governors like Pritzker have

00:47:06.760 been out on the attack.

00:47:08.780 I just want to play a quick clip of a

00:47:11.380 press conference that Illinois,

00:47:12.820 Illinois' governor J.B. Pritzker, had

00:47:15.180 yesterday in the message he had for

00:47:17.100 President Trump, if he dare, trying to

00:47:19.720 deport any of the 35,000 to 40,000

00:47:23.260 illegals that are in the city of 0.91

00:47:25.460 Chicago.

00:47:25.940 Let's take a look.

00:47:26.820 One who intends to come take away the

00:47:29.140 freedom and opportunity and dignity of

00:47:32.340 Illinoisans, I would remind you that a

00:47:35.260 happy warrior is still a warrior.

00:47:37.500 You come for my people, you come through 0.95

00:47:42.140 me.

00:47:44.260 You come through my people, for my

00:47:46.920 people, you come through me.

00:47:49.220 Again, we must remind Governor Pritzker that

00:47:52.580 under his leadership as governor, not

00:47:55.240 only have we have these migrants that are 1.00

00:47:58.180 taking over sanctuary cities like Chicago

00:48:00.420 and New York, but they're also draining

00:48:03.940 resources as a result of spending $500

00:48:08.220 million to feed and clothe and house

00:48:12.300 migrants, give them hotels. 1.00

00:48:15.540 Their own residents, his own constituents

00:48:17.720 are suffering.

00:48:18.840 Crime is skyrocketing in the urban communities

00:48:22.840 in the south and west sides of Chicago.

00:48:25.400 Innocent babies and children and teenagers 0.99

00:48:28.880 and young adults and mothers and fathers

00:48:32.180 and grandmas and grandpas are dying because

00:48:36.080 of a gang problem and gang wars.

00:48:39.380 You have 1,900 Chicago public school students

00:48:44.640 with disabilities whose parents just a couple

00:48:47.760 of days before the start of the new school

00:48:49.900 year in August received an email from Chicago

00:48:53.860 public school officials saying that their

00:48:56.060 children couldn't be picked up for school by

00:48:58.560 their bus driver because they don't have enough

00:49:00.500 bus drivers.

00:49:01.860 Again, stranding 1,900 students with disability.

00:49:06.320 That's in direct violation of the law.

00:49:10.000 Chicago and other sanctuary cities, but Chicago

00:49:12.360 in particular, has seen a 11,000% increase,

00:49:16.860 11,000% increase in crimes committed by

00:49:20.940 Venezuelans and migrants. 0.98

00:49:23.080 At the same time, the city of Chicago is hemorrhaging 0.82

00:49:27.700 police officers.

00:49:29.140 They are nearly 1,000 police officers short.

00:49:32.400 And so at a time under Governor Pritzker's leadership

00:49:34.920 and his policies that criminalize the victims

00:49:38.860 and victimize the criminals, we're seeing crime

00:49:42.680 continue to skyrocket.

00:49:44.500 We're seeing a criminal justice system under democratic

00:49:47.780 policies that allow criminals to go back free and out

00:49:53.400 on the streets called no cash bail.

00:49:56.420 Prisons and jails are empty in Illinois and particularly

00:50:01.680 in Chicago.

00:50:02.760 And these are under Governor Pritzker's policies.

00:50:06.160 But people are fighting back with their votes.

00:50:10.200 And again, it's why we're seeing this here in the Chicago

00:50:13.480 Tribune, this historic shift.

00:50:17.580 And what are Democrats doing?

00:50:20.060 They are blaming, number one, Latino men, 0.99

00:50:24.320 Black men, and uneducated white women. 0.96

00:50:29.040 So it's totally OK for political pundits and women on The View 0.99

00:50:34.440 to categorize and call Latino men and Black men misogynists

00:50:40.960 because we're afraid, and I throw myself into this category 0.97

00:50:45.160 because we're afraid of voting for a Black female president, 0.99

00:50:49.280 or blaming the low intelligence, the low IQ of uneducated white women. 1.00

00:50:57.140 Imagine if President Trump would have said something like that. 0.52

00:51:00.560 Imagine if President Trump's supporters from the MAGA movement

00:51:03.920 would have gone on national television and suggested something like that.

00:51:08.120 The mainstream media would be going wild.

00:51:11.580 And instead, they're protecting them with these comments.

00:51:15.820 You have James Carville, who's losing his faculties

00:51:19.860 faster than Joe Biden, the Democratic operative responsible

00:51:24.440 for helping to elect Bill Clinton in 1992.

00:51:28.400 You have James Carville attacking everyday hardworking Americans

00:51:33.600 for voting for President Trump and falling for his,

00:51:38.420 as he said, quote-unquote, President Trump's BS.

00:51:42.460 You can't get any more offensive.

00:51:45.660 And the Democratic Party is clearly unraveling.

00:51:49.700 They cannot handle the fact that their policies are no longer relevant,

00:51:54.200 that an overwhelming majority of Americans do not agree with the direction of our country under Democratic control.

00:52:03.980 It is why President Trump won the White House so soundly with a large mandate.

00:52:09.080 It's why the Republicans flipped several Senate seats away from Democrat incumbents.

00:52:17.460 It's why Chuck Schumer is no longer going to be the U.S. Senate majority leader.

00:52:22.600 We're still waiting on what's happening in the House.

00:52:26.180 But I'm confident that Republicans will maintain control in the House.

00:52:31.320 And at that point, President Trump's going to go into office in January

00:52:34.040 with Republicans controlling the White House and both chambers of Congress.

00:52:39.140 And that is how we are going to be able to fix America.

00:52:42.800 Because let's not kid ourselves.

00:52:46.180 If Democrats control any of the chambers of Congress, either the House or the Senate,

00:52:51.740 we know exactly what they're going to do.

00:52:53.720 They're going to investigate, investigate, investigate.

00:52:56.560 There's no doubt in my mind that they'd want to impeach President Trump all over again.

00:53:00.960 And instead of wanting to govern, they want to use the powers of the DOJ and the FBI

00:53:09.360 and to institute lawfare in order to go after their political enemies.

00:53:14.600 These are Soviet-style tactics.

00:53:17.400 And if they can go after President Trump and his family,

00:53:22.420 if they can go after General Flynn and even as far back as a Rod Blagojevich

00:53:28.120 or a Steve Bannon or a very own Roger Stone, George Papadopoulos, so many others,

00:53:36.600 if they can go after them, they can go after you and they can go after me.

00:53:41.740 And President Trump is right.

00:53:43.320 They're not after me.

00:53:44.420 They're after you.

00:53:45.680 I'm just standing in the way.

00:53:48.860 But in Illinois, for example, President Trump lost Illinois,

00:53:53.540 which is a very, very deep blue state.

00:53:56.380 And I know some of you are wondering, why in the world do we care about Illinois?

00:54:01.900 It shows you the strength of the MAGNUM movement.

00:54:04.420 Think about this.

00:54:05.020 Let's park here for just a moment.

00:54:07.640 In 2016, President Trump lost Illinois by over 1 million votes, 1.25 million votes.

00:54:18.740 Illinois is a Democratic-controlled state.

00:54:21.380 Democrats control every statewide office, from governor to lieutenant governor to attorney general

00:54:28.360 to secretary of state to comptroller.

00:54:32.020 Every statewide office in Illinois is controlled by Democrats.

00:54:36.820 The Illinois state Supreme Court controlled by Democrats.

00:54:42.500 In fact, Democrats have a strong majority control in the Illinois state's Supreme Court.

00:54:51.420 Now let's talk about the Illinois legislature.

00:54:54.280 Democrats control a super majority in the Illinois Senate,

00:54:59.020 and they have a super majority control in the Illinois House.

00:55:02.340 In fact, there are so many Democratic members in the Illinois House that they are forced to sit

00:55:08.820 on the Republican side of the aisle because there's not enough space, there's not enough room,

00:55:14.980 there's not enough desks for them.

00:55:18.080 So what happened in Illinois on Tuesday night?

00:55:22.020 Well, President Trump made historic gains in the Black and Latino communities.

00:55:30.940 In fact, in several wards in the city of Chicago, President Trump flipped.

00:55:37.840 So that's one example.

00:55:39.860 Second point to that is that if you remember, President Trump lost Illinois in 2016 by 1 million votes.

00:55:48.580 On Tuesday night, he lost Illinois by a mere 400,000 votes.

00:55:56.820 That's how close he was to flipping a state that has a Democrat super majority control,

00:56:05.760 a Democrat control that is iron tight with that grip.

00:56:12.120 It's also why the very controversial and incompetent mayor, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson,

00:56:20.300 who spends more time being hospitalized for panic attacks than he is known for actually trying to

00:56:27.000 govern the city, who has given up reins and control to the Chicago Teachers Union.

00:56:34.660 In addition to President Trump losing Illinois by just a mere 400,000 votes and flipping certain wards

00:56:42.980 in Chicago that were hardcore Democratic, Mayor Brandon Johnson and the Chicago Teachers Union

00:56:50.340 were annihilated in Chicago's first school board races.

00:56:55.520 In fact, Mayor Johnson and his CTU buddies lost six out of nine races of candidates that they endorsed.

00:57:09.480 Why?

00:57:10.860 Because Americans are wanting to—Illinoisans, Chicagoans particularly in Chicago,

00:57:17.260 Chicagoans are wanting to get back to normalcy, where a man is a man, a woman's a woman, 0.89

00:57:23.020 a boy's a boy, a girl's a girl, these sorts of far-left progressive policies that allow

00:57:30.080 boys to play in girl sports, they don't want that in their classrooms. 0.95

00:57:36.500 They don't want pornography in the schools in terms of their textbooks. 0.74

00:57:41.900 What's interesting is that you cannot read the very graphic books that schools are teaching

00:57:51.300 children on air. You cannot read them on, let's say, a cable news show. You cannot read them

00:57:57.860 on a radio show. Why? Because it's in violation of federal communications, FCC rules, and you will get

00:58:08.200 banned. So the litmus test is, if a grown adult cannot read the contents of these books that are

00:58:15.680 being given to children and being taught to children, if a grown adult cannot read these

00:58:20.960 on a national radio show or a national television show, what gives them the right to think that

00:58:28.220 they should read them on their own as part of their homework? And so, again, we are really seeing

00:58:34.920 a major transformation in a realignment of politics in America, that the Democratic Party is no longer

00:58:43.440 the party of the working class. The Democratic Party is no longer the party of the Black and Latino

00:58:49.920 community. They are now part of Trump's Republican Party, a Republican Party that listens to the

00:58:56.980 forgotten American, that gives a voice to the voiceless. And so President Trump has got a strong

00:59:05.260 mandate, and we're going to look forward to the next four years. That's going to put money in your

00:59:10.660 pockets. It's going to secure our southern border. It's going to right wrongs. It's going to protect

00:59:18.320 our service members and our citizens at home and abroad. It's going to fix our economy, put more

00:59:25.440 money in your pockets. It's going to lower the cost of groceries, lower the cost of gas. And that's just

00:59:30.480 the beginning. So we've got so much more exciting things to cover here in the next few months as we get

00:59:36.620 ready for President Trump to get inaugurated in January. But until then, Roger Stone will be back

00:59:41.840 on Monday. I'm Mark Vargas, filling in for Roger. Thank you for tuning in to The Stone Zone.

00:59:48.160 Thank you. Good night. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America.

01:00:06.620 God bless you.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - November 08, 2024

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