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00:00:49.480Thank God it's Friday, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:55.460President Donald Trump and his allies won an important legal victory yesterday.
00:01:04.200It is a welcome respite from the setbacks at the hands of a politicized judiciary system in the states and at the federal level.
00:01:16.100Here to help me break it down is my co-host from Slingshot.News, Troy Smith.
00:01:23.760Troy, welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:01:27.460Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here, and especially after such a big day yesterday,
00:01:33.160where we had President Trump and President Biden both at the southern border, eager to get into that right away here.
00:01:40.180But as you said, a major legal victory for President Trump that we're going to talk about later in the show.
00:01:45.520But I want to start things off, Roger, by talking about the border, because we saw President Trump visit Eagle Pass yesterday and meet with Texas Governor Abbott,
00:01:53.920who he actually said, and we saw reports this morning, that Trump said absolutely he's considering Abbott for his vice president.
00:02:02.500I'm interested to hear your thoughts on that right off the bat, on how you feel about Governor Greg Abbott possibly becoming Trump's vice president.
00:02:09.860It's an interesting notion for those who've just tuning in.
00:02:15.420Joining us very shortly is a patriot for whom I have enormous respect.
00:02:22.440Greg Stenstrom is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy.
00:02:27.480He has served his country with distinction.
00:02:30.480He is one of the foremost leaders in the country on the question of computer sciences, social media,
00:02:38.560extensive experience in security, fraud investigations, problem solving.
00:02:45.420And he represented himself in a vital legal battle in Pennsylvania.
00:02:52.180We're going to get to that a little later in the show.
00:02:54.500But you don't want to go anywhere because Greg Stenstrom deserves to take a victory lap today.
00:03:01.420And he's going to do so right here on the Stone Zone.
00:03:05.520That's an interesting question you raised, Troy, because, well, among other things, Texas is not a reliably red state.
00:03:17.380A poll that I saw yesterday in the U.S. Senate race showed that Ted Cruz was literally in a 41-41 dead heat with his Democratic opponent for the U.S. Senate.
00:03:32.220So there is probably no candidate in the country who better symbolizes the need to seal our border than Governor Greg Abbott.
00:03:43.860So, look, I don't know what the president will ultimately decide.
00:03:48.800I made it very clear from the beginning that I've talked about a number of candidates I find interesting or intriguing, but I'm endorsing no one.
00:03:59.480I'm waiting until the president makes his decision.
00:04:02.760Then and only then will I support a candidate.
00:04:07.000That will be the candidate he chooses.
00:04:09.540But yesterday's juxtaposition at the border could not have been a more stark.
00:06:27.200It is pretty clear to me that Joe Biden didn't decide to go to the border until he heard that President Trump was going to the border.
00:06:35.520Well, Roger, and that's a very important point that you just made, because as people know, President Trump announced his visit to the border before Joe Biden's.
00:06:44.260Biden only came in afterwards and said he was going to visit the border.
00:06:47.960And again, so we're going to play a clip here from MSNBC and Lawrence O'Donnell, who we played the clip of just a few days ago, losing his mind, which is a classic.
00:06:56.400Lawrence O'Donnell went on TV last night attempting to claim that Trump was stuttering and having trouble speaking during his event and his speech at the border, which was just completely false.
00:07:09.700He plays a clip in which nothing happens, and he sits there and smirks at the clip as if he's showing something that's going to change the minds of the American people.
00:07:18.100So they're framing this as Trump's mental decline coupled with Biden's mental decline because they're finally starting to recognize Biden's decline.
00:07:26.360And they can't do that without also giving a dig to Trump because it indicts their entire narrative.
00:07:32.400So let's roll the clip of Lawrence O'Donnell flat out lying last night about Trump's visit to the border.
00:07:38.500Donald Trump desperately tried to compete with President Biden's visit to the southern border today by going to another spot on the border, 350 miles away from the president, where once again, Donald Trump spoke gibberish about the border.
00:07:55.820Millions of people from places unknown, from countries unknown who don't speak languages.
00:08:02.220We have languages coming into our country. We have nobody that even speaks those languages.
00:08:06.060No, we have people in this country who speak every language.
00:08:11.320And then Donald Trump added this lie about the people who are crossing the southern border.
00:08:19.780These are the people that are coming into our country and they're coming from jails and they're coming from prisons and they're coming from mental institutions and they're coming from insane asylums and they're terrorists.
00:08:32.160They're being let into our country. And it's horrible.
00:08:39.760Needless to say, that is not an accurate description of the people crossing the border.
00:08:43.460He's lying about the people who cross the border and who they are.
00:08:47.420But at the same time, Donald Trump is doing everything he can to help everyone who is illegally crossing the border now to continue illegally crossing.
00:08:58.560Now, Roger, just I want to get your reaction.
00:09:02.260But let's point out real quickly that the bill that they're talking about would have allowed millions of illegal immigrants into this country every year.
00:09:09.320So the idea that Trump tanked the bill in the first place is ridiculous.
00:09:12.420But on top of it, the idea that this bill would have prevented illegal immigration.
00:10:33.940And we had a lot of there's a lot to get to today.
00:10:36.480And we obviously have a great guest coming on in the second half of the show.
00:10:39.760You're not going to want to miss that.
00:10:40.860But this morning, Roger, I saw a video that I wanted to bring up and get your opinion on that we can play here.
00:10:46.520Nikki Haley made a statement where she's kind of urging judges to hurry up and to to to move legal case Trump's legal cases ahead very quickly.
00:10:56.280And I think it's important to highlight for those who didn't see it.
00:10:59.540You need to go watch Roger and I show yesterday with with with lawyer David Schoen, who's who's just an absolute genius when it comes to this stuff.
00:11:10.900He was highlighting the fact that there is a there's a real thing happening here where a lot of these cases are falling apart, whether it be Georgia in New York.
00:11:19.380He talked about that case in depth and he talked about Florida in depth, which we're also going to get to today.
00:11:25.040But I think it's important to highlight that that there is a real movement here where where Trump is is getting a benefit.
00:11:33.860And at the same time, now they're saying, oh, Nikki Haley saying we got to rush.
00:11:38.640We got to get judgments. We got to get them right now.
00:12:20.760Troy, it's this is very clearly election interference.
00:12:24.820Nikki Haley, much like Governor Ron DeSantis, perhaps even Joe Biden himself.
00:12:30.420Well, they're hoping that President Trump gets hit by a bus or that he has some legal reason that would somehow prevent him from returning to the world.
00:13:27.300It's really not apparent to me, but she's moving backwards in the polls.
00:13:32.960She has no prospect of being nominated.
00:13:35.600And what she's calling for is election interference.
00:13:39.300The public interest in a quick election is not higher than the public interest in getting some of these important constitutional issues correct.
00:13:50.000So the only reason they want to rush is to impact the Trump freight train that is hurtling towards the White House.
00:14:00.260Well, that's that's a very good point, Roger.
00:14:03.380And I think it highlights the the difference between some of these cases.
00:14:08.060You know, DeSantis claimed the whole time that he was on the the front lines of the culture war.
00:14:13.380And yet he wasn't being attacked legally the way that Trump has been yesterday or earlier this week.
00:14:19.940Roger, we aired a clip of Mark Cuban talking about possibly running for president.
00:14:24.900And we talked I made the prediction here that that Mark Cuban will actually be the top of the no labels ticket heading into 2024.
00:14:35.340And I've we haven't had time last couple of days.
00:14:37.920I wanted to ask you, do you think it's possible that Mark Cuban runs for president?
00:14:42.580And if he did, do you think it would be under a no labels ticket?
00:14:47.940We know from history, there was a time in the past when Steve Bannon from the war room approached Mark Cuban and urged him to run for president.
00:15:59.380I just saw it in the Gateway Pundit, which kind of sums up an extraordinary victory.
00:16:05.840You and I have kept in touch low these many months.
00:16:08.620You and Leah Hoops, who was a great woman, great patriot.
00:16:13.580You were involved in this long running litigation where ultimately you represented yourselves pro se, while you are undoubtedly a brilliant guy, Naval Academy graduate.
00:16:30.440You're not an attorney, but you put these attorneys to shame.
00:16:34.240So tell us what this case was about and tell us what transpired.
00:16:38.860Well, this was a defamation case against President Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Phil Klein, the former Kansas Attorney General, the Thomas More Society, and myself, Leah Hoops, and Jenna Ellis.
00:16:55.300And the crux of the case was it was a defamation suit brought forward by the voting machine custodian.
00:17:03.020That may seem like a low-level job, but the man who filled this job, his name was James Savage.
00:17:10.360He was the former president of the Philadelphia U.S. Steelworkers.
00:17:14.900And he's a, you know, he's worked with President Obama, the head of the AFL-CIO.
00:17:23.360And he filed a defamation suit against all of us for, you know, bringing him up as participating in the stolen election of November 2020.
00:17:34.200So, in a nutshell, Leah and myself were the only ones that we know of in the country that used the truth as a complete defense strategy and an affirmative defense, they call it.
00:17:47.380And we said everything we said was the truth.
00:17:49.840He absolutely did everything we said he did.
00:17:53.260They did, in fact, steal the election, and they perverted 327,000 votes, and they stole a couple of hundred thousand votes that not only turned the tide in Pennsylvania, but had a significant impact on the national election.
00:18:08.140Well, they objected to that, and they used James Savage as a proxy and attacked all of us.
00:18:14.880President Trump, Mike Medeo, who's partners with Alina Haba, he was representing Trump in the hearings up in Philadelphia.
00:18:24.920He was able to get one of the cases dismissed for legislative immunity, which is a technical thing.
00:18:32.980And then he got a stay until President Trump is clear of his criminal, all the criminal allegations against him around the country.
00:18:41.980So it was left to Leah and myself to, you know, continue the case.
00:18:48.360So in a nutshell, we won on the truth as a complete defense, and they were unable to refute or dispute a single fact, and that is that the elections in Delaware County, and we believe in Pennsylvania and around the country, were stolen.
00:19:06.360We wrote a book about it called The Parallel Election, A Blueprint for Deception, and we were the first ones to talk about the V-drives, which I think people understand what V-drives are now that follow your show, at least, and also the mail-in ballots and how they faked mail-in ballots and how they perverted the elections.
00:19:30.320My understanding is that there were 68 cases with President Trump that he's been sued in various capacities around the country.
00:19:40.620And to my understanding, this was the first case that actually got to a significant level of discovery where the judge actually let the discovery in, and it's the first one that was done by pro se defendants.
00:19:51.960So what we've been saying now is Trump is now, President Trump, excuse me, is now 1 in 68.
00:20:01.160We were excited, and I think President Trump can take a victory lap himself, and I hope it will continue on in Pennsylvania and he can regain, he can win the state of Pennsylvania as a result.
00:20:14.340So does the lawsuit remain alive as far as the president is concerned, since he got a stay?
00:20:23.920What happened was on January 10th, we were offered a settlement.
00:20:28.180Leah and myself were offered a settlement to depart the case.
00:20:33.320They said they would let Leah and myself depart the case on January 10th.
00:20:38.240We've been beating the heck out of them in all the hearings.
00:20:40.220And we said, no, one goes, we all go, and we'll be happy to, you know, keep beating your ass in court at the trial.
00:20:48.280So, you know, your decision, you let us all go, and then we'll have a discussion and, you know, we'll go for monetary damages against you later.
00:20:55.600But right now you have to let Trump, President Trump and Rudy Giuliani out.
00:21:00.520They already had a judgment against Mayor Giuliani for, they were suing him for a million dollars and they had a default judgment against him.
00:21:08.740So he was on the line to have to pay quite a bit of money.
00:21:13.800And President Trump would have had to come back with Alina and Mike Medeo to defend himself, to continue to defend himself, you know, through the end of the year and during the campaign, which was, I think, the intent of the lawsuit.
00:21:27.920It was just discontinued with prejudice.
00:21:31.440The judge cited sanctions and cited misconduct by the attorney.
00:21:38.120And we will be coming back at them now to now that we've proven that, you know, the truth is a complete defense and the election of 2020 was stolen, at least here in Delaware County.
00:22:08.900What are the implications for this going forward, both in Pennsylvania and nationally, hopefully?
00:22:16.480Well, I think most of the people in the country, the majority of the people in this country now believe and know that they believe that the election was stolen, but now they know.
00:22:28.280And I think the big thing here is that no one can, they can't use the pundits, bad actors, Democrats, whoever.
00:22:37.480They can't say that, well, there's no evidence of election fraud and that elections were the safest and most secure ever.
00:22:42.880We now have hard physical evidence that's been entered, 276 gigabytes of documents, emails, videos, audios that plainly showed election officials, senior election officials, stealing the election.
00:22:57.900They clearly show collusion with people in the Department of Justice, including Attorney General Barr, Governor Shapiro.
00:23:06.800It shows collusion up and down the chain that could be used in his other cases.
00:23:13.060Anyone who comes back at President Trump or Mayor Giuliani or anybody who says that there's election fraud, we now have a body of evidence they can go back to.
00:23:23.220And I think most importantly is it gives veracity to the other cases that we have.
00:23:32.520Now people know they were stolen, but we also moved forward over the last four years and we filed recount cases, multiple election fraud cases in the state of Pennsylvania.
00:23:45.440And we currently have recount cases in Bayou County, Chester County, Delaware County, and these are big counties.
00:23:54.260And I think that there's more, the judges are more inclined to look at this and go, well, there really was fraud and I better get, you know, get better get behind these things and do the recounts.
00:24:03.440And that's a big win because people want to know for sure.
00:24:10.640I think everybody believes there was fraud, but now we know it for a fact.
00:24:15.740And President Trump can say as much as he wants because the case was dismissed with prejudice, which means President Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Roger, any of the news media can definitively state.
00:24:28.440It was a massive election fraud in the state of Pennsylvania, and we're going to redress it and we're going to hopefully fix this before the November election when President Trump will be running in the general election.
00:24:40.640This is very, very truly a landmark case.
00:24:44.320Troy, do you have a question for Greg Stenstrom?
00:24:46.440Absolutely, Greg. We talked a little bit about factcheck.org, and I'd like you to go into that a little bit because it's very important information and how this is being rigged kind of against the truth.
00:24:59.480Sure. One of the tactics that they've used, and they used it against Roger, Mike Flynn, Paul Manafort, President Trump, is that they place an article or they place some news story and they say, oh, you've been debunked.
00:25:14.080So shortly after the election and after our legislative appearances at the Pennsylvania Senate in Gettysburg and after appearances in Arlington, Virginia, where we stated or reiterated the fraud, what they did is they placed an article with factcheck.org.
00:25:33.580And a lot of people think the factcheckers are some sort of news organization.
00:25:39.520Well, factcheck.org is actually the Annenberg Public Policy Center in the University of Pennsylvania.
00:25:50.040It's a non-governmental organization that is a partisan organization, and the chairman of that organization is Joe Biden.
00:25:57.480And the Chinese donated $55 million to the Annenberg Public Policy Foundation, and Joe Biden gets a million dollars a year from the Annenberg Public Policy Center in the Biden chair.
00:26:11.700So basically what they did is they placed an article and they said all election fraud claims have been debunked.
00:26:19.660And then because of the name factcheck.org, you know, we got like the knucklehead that earlier from MSNBC had on, you know, they go out and they say, look, you know, factcheck.org says that it's all been debunked.
00:26:32.100Well, those what we found through our investigation was right in their billing records of the lawyers, the billing records say that they coordinated with factcheck.org to place these false stories and to mitigate and put pressure, you know, just to say, hey, just to deny things in the press, just like the person you had on there.
00:26:52.780I don't even know the guy that from the MSNBC talking about the border earlier, the guy just spouts off a bunch of crap.
00:27:00.220And and then, you know, people are supposed to accept that as truth.
00:27:03.800But from a legal perspective, it's been a tactic that's been accepted by the courts now, including the U.S. Supreme Court, the Commonwealth Court, the state courts, the federal courts, where opposing attorneys will place an article.
00:27:18.500And they'll say, hey, look, this is our reference, factcheck.org said it was fake.
00:27:23.760OK, and then the courts say, oh, well, it was fake.
00:27:26.200That's that's, you know, if all you had to do when you were guilty was to place an article in a in some periodical that says, look, I'm innocent, then it wouldn't go very well.
00:28:03.100I had my own experience with factcheck.org.
00:28:05.840At one point, they actually, to my surprise, they actually published a story which correctly said that there, despite the ravings of Adam Schiff, there was really no evidence that I had collaborated in any way with WikiLeaks or received anything from them, never mind disseminating it to any third person.
00:28:27.160Then, as soon as I heralded that in public, they immediately wrote a second story saying, well, we can't reach that conclusion because there's not enough information to conclude that, which, of course, there was.
00:28:40.300These factcheck organizations are just another part of the jackals in the fake news media, spinning false narratives so that they can go back and point to them.
00:28:53.800People may not remember this, but essentially the FBI gave a copy of the phony steel dossier to a reporter at Yahoo.com who then reported that.
00:29:07.200So that the FBI could then point back at the story they had planted.
00:29:11.920That was a story by Mike Isikoff and say, oh, you see, Isikoff wrote it.
00:29:19.060Isikoff's newest book is lauding the greatness of Fanny Wills, that courageous woman prosecutor in which he basically says in the promos for his book that he had access to highly confidential grand jury information.
00:29:37.780If that's true, well, then Mr. Isikoff has broken the law.
00:30:04.180This is living proof, not only that Jesus Christ can do anything, but when you're right and you stick to the facts and you refuse to quit fighting, victory can be won.
00:30:50.640All right, Troy, I'm going to go to a shameless commercial break to keep the lights on and then we'll go back to your political news agenda.
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00:37:11.360Well, on the other hand, there is this great tendency in Washington when people amass that kind of power and, in turn, amass that kind of wealth.
00:42:13.340I think that Tim Scott is an interesting choice.
00:42:18.420He would be an interesting person to serve in that role.
00:42:21.160And he also has, you know, I just, my question to you on that matter would be,
00:42:25.560is like, how do you look at Tim Scott?
00:42:27.660Is he really somebody who gets along with just about everybody?
00:42:31.160Or does he, I mean, to me, that's what it appears like.
00:42:33.660But is that your feel in the situation?
00:42:35.520Well, look, I like Tim Scott, but I do think that he tends to be more of a neocon Republican.
00:42:45.100Some have put him forward as a potential candidate for vice president.
00:42:49.820I'm not convinced that he yet has the experience and the depth, the temperament or the judgment to be president.
00:43:00.100And frankly, his presidential campaign probably hurt his prospects to be vice president because he never got any traction.
00:43:09.460One senator I should mention, who I really kind of come around on, I would not be unhappy at all if the Senate caucus took Rick Scott, the senator from Florida.
00:43:36.180I've, I have some disagreements with him, particularly on some Second Amendment issues.
00:43:41.400I'm not saying I agree with him on everything, but I frankly think that that would be a good choice.
00:43:46.780And I'd also point out to you, Rick Scott had the courage to challenge Mitch McConnell when nobody else would.
00:43:54.540Uh, and that, uh, that speaks to, uh, a level, uh, of, uh, independence and a level of courage that I think might, uh, commend him as a potential Senate majority leader.
00:44:08.300Well, and it's, it's difficult, Roger, because like you said, the Senate, I think is a much different game than the House.
00:44:13.340And it's a, it's a much more refined political, uh, chessboard than, than the House.
00:44:20.100You know, I think you can get away with certain things in the House that you can't get away with in the Senate.
00:44:23.980And, uh, like you said, that's going to, it's going to require them to choose somebody who's kind of, uh, more middle in the aisle.
00:44:30.480It's going to be tremendously interesting.
00:44:32.180I think, um, I think, I think you hit the nail on the head with the South Dakota Senator, uh, John Toon.
00:44:37.520He's going to be at the top of that list, I think, of people.
00:44:40.660And, and as of people, you know, I, I pay attention to the campaign finance aspect of this, Roger, because I'm constantly looking, uh, into that aspect of it.
00:44:49.080And, uh, I've seen money, uh, that traditionally was coming from people like Paul Singer, um, into the coffers of Mitch McConnell over the last couple of years.
00:44:59.080That's been going into Toon's, uh, coffers a little bit more and more, uh, there's more money heading into him, his campaign as well as Tim Scott.
00:45:07.840Um, and, and, you know, you don't really know whether, you know, what the whole Tim Scott presidential thing was about, how that'll play on things, but it's going to be tremendously interesting to see, uh, who the Republicans select.
00:45:18.380And I think, uh, it's an overall good thing, you know, despite, you know, whatever had to happen for it to be there, uh, that Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell are no, no longer going to be leading this party.
00:45:29.880Uh, my question would be, uh, for Mitch McConnell, we showed the health problems there.
00:45:36.300Uh, I don't think anybody would deny that there's some serious issues.
00:45:40.200Uh, and, and if you listen to his speech, he talked about, um, some of the issues that he's been having and, and how it's a difficult time for his family.
00:45:48.980And, and you can see the, the sentiment around it was kind of like, okay, he's going away now, uh, his Senate term doesn't expire until 2027, Roger.
00:45:59.360And he said that he will serve out that term, um, with the Senate as close as, as it is, um, and, and especially with Kentucky being, you know, gaining traction and having more Democrat, uh, influence.
00:46:12.840I believe that the governor of Kentucky is a Democrat, which would allow, uh, if, if McConnell did step down, would allow them to kind of put in, uh, McConnell's place, uh, a Democrat, which would, which would, uh, give the Democrats a boost in the Senate.
00:46:27.320So my interest is in one who they're going to select in two, how long is McConnell going to be able to hang on and how do they play that situation?
00:46:34.480Because it looks to me, um, like I I'm not so sure that he's going to be able to make it to 2027.
00:46:40.020And just as a human being, this is somebody looking at him on a human level.
00:46:43.820I say, uh, I don't know how many years on earth he has left.
00:46:47.960I would hope that he doesn't spend his last days in Washington, like Dianne Feinstein, uh, clinging to that little bit of power, because that is so sad.
00:46:56.780Roger, we, we want, you know, just as a human being, we want Mitch McConnell to, to enjoy the last few years he has.
00:47:02.820I hope that we can figure out something politically where it doesn't hurt the party, but at the same time, it's a, it's a difficult situation.
00:47:08.580I think it's something that the voters need to keep in mind as well.
00:47:11.340Um, when you head to the ballot box, uh, in November, you know, Joe Biden is, is having a lot of the same problems that Mitch McConnell's having.
00:47:20.400And we, we talk about it every day here, but if you look on the mainstream media, they don't want to mention it.
00:47:25.800Um, and, and really they don't mention McConnell either.
00:47:28.260I think because ultimately Roger that spotlight, if they start doing that, Hey, mental decline, mental decline, which you're starting to do with Trump, I think it ultimately comes back to Biden.
00:47:37.020Uh, do you think, and this is just something for, you've watched these elections a lot longer than I have.
00:47:42.580Do you think if the, if the media continues to, to hammer the false claim that Trump is having some kind of cognitive decline, that that will stick?
00:47:51.200I mean, it doesn't seem to me that there's any evidence that would make people believe that Roger, do you?
00:48:00.860There was never any juncture in which Donald Trump could not remember his own wife's name.
00:48:05.880Now it's ironic that of all things, Joe Biden picks that because there is of course, a video where Joe Biden seemed to confuse who was his wife and who was his sister.
00:49:30.360Uh, think how you would feel, uh, if you're charged, uh, with illegally retaining, uh, classified and top-secret documents, only to learn, uh, first of all, believing that as a president of the United States and as a former president of the United States under the Presidential Records Act, that you have the authority to keep those documents.
00:49:53.280Uh, then learning that Joe Biden retained more documents than you did, uh, as a vice president and as a U.S. senator, which he had no authority under the law to hold on to.
00:50:06.280Uh, but then have the Justice Department conclude that even though, using their words, he had willfully retained documents in violation of the law and had also not kept them in a locked facility but had them in multiple locations.
00:50:22.440Uh, but that, uh, but that Biden will not be prosecuted simply because, well, he's an elderly man and his memory is slipping.
00:50:33.320I remember the, uh, epic legal fight, uh, in which President Richard Nixon sought to keep, uh, his White House tapes secret, that he did not want them turned over where they would be made public.
00:50:47.660The U.S. Supreme Court, uh, overturned 200 previous years of rulings regarding executive privilege, uh, and, uh, because of the political atmosphere in the country, uh, ordered that those tapes be turned over and they were ultimately made public.
00:51:05.480Uh, what about the, uh, the, uh, the tape recording of the interrogation, uh, or just the questioning, uh, by Special Counsel Robert Herr, uh, of Joe Biden?
00:51:17.820We seem to have two versions of what was said.
00:51:20.720Biden has made a number of claims that don't seem to match the public record.
00:51:25.940But why would, uh, why would the Congress, for example, why would the House Oversight Committee or any House Committee with subpoena authority, uh, seek, uh, those recordings?
00:51:38.740I mean, after all, the Washington Post says that democracy dies in darkness, right?
00:52:10.800Absolutely, Roger, and, and it's, it's full transparency.
00:52:14.600And I think the same thing as far as the, uh, Biden White House is concerned, the communications, the backdoor communications between, uh, officials.
00:52:21.680You know that they gotta be messaging each other, being like, what the hell are we supposed to do here with this guy?
00:52:26.660I mean, we can't even give him a speech to read.
00:52:28.960Uh, I saw footage yesterday of the, uh, teleprompter that they're using.
00:52:32.460It looks like a 70-inch flat-screen TV with, uh, letters this big.
00:52:37.160And he still struggles to read the damn thing.
00:52:39.200So, you know, they're hiding, they're running around back and forth.
00:52:42.580Like, what the hell are we supposed to do?
00:52:44.060And, uh, I think it's important for the people to understand that.
00:52:47.060And it's important to know that because where's the policy coming from?