Kamala Harris' VP pick, Tim Walsh, has been accused of lying about his military service, and his supporters have seized on it to attack him. But is he lying, or is he just not that bad at lying? On this episode of The Stone Zone with Roger Stone, host J.D. Vance and Senior Editor Troy Smith, they break it all down and give their thoughts on the latest in the war chest controversy surrounding the potential VP pick for the 2020 Democratic presidential campaign. Guest: Roger Stone. Special thanks to Slingshot News for sponsoring this episode. The show is brought to you by StoneZONE Media. A very special thank you to my listeners for making this podcast possible. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and other podcasting platforms. We'll be looking out for your comments and reviews in the coming days. Thank you so much for all the support, it means a lot to us and we can't wait to do more of this. - Your support is so important to us, and we'll make it even more important in 2020. Thank you again and beyond! - Roger Stone - The StoneZ Zone - Thank you, JD.Vance & Troy Smith - SLSYS and the hardest working man in journalism in the world, Kristian R.S. Smith Thanks, J-D. Vaynerchukner & the Hard Working Man in the World - J-Vee . J. D. & J.J.V. Vance & J-S.V.'s . . . J-O. . J.C. and J.R. Vance And J.O. & R. S. VYNN TAYLOR AND J.Y. & S. B. M. VANDSETTER , J. R. WELCOME TO THE STANDING IN THE FACEBOOK GROUP AND J-YANNA THANGSOOTER? - J. O THANOSHA VYANCHE CHECK OUT THE PODCAST AND THE PASTOR AND POTTER MAKING THEM TALKING ABOUT THIS EPISODE AND MORE! Thank YOU, J. J. SORRY FOR SUPPORTING ME?
00:11:28.740And, you know, the attacks on Christopher Columbus, I think, are an attack on Western values.
00:11:33.600And, you know, as people who believe in Western values, you know, my family came across this ocean many, many years ago.
00:11:41.020And I'm in the boat of so many other Americans who love this country.
00:11:44.380We also respect our European heritage and where we come from.
00:11:47.480And I think attacks on that culture, you know, we have to take those as attacks against us because that's what they are.
00:11:53.360And if these people that, you know, destroyed the Christopher Columbus statue had their way and Tim Waltz had his way, these things would be erased from history.
00:12:02.300And we can never forget the ultimate sacrifice that Europeans made when they came to this country.
00:12:09.440I mean, you understand that there was no roads.
00:12:16.460And these brave souls came here to nothing and built something.
00:12:20.300And the idea that we have people out there that live in the lap of luxury created by the sacrifice of those individuals who dare say that those people were bad or that they were evil and that we should erase them from history, I think it's disgusting.
00:12:32.540And it shows a complete lack of respect for what this country is and who created it.
00:12:37.480You know, Roger, we've talked so much on this show about the 100,000 Michigan Democrats who voted against President Joe Biden in the Democrat Michigan primary, the presidential primary up there.
00:12:50.380And they did this primarily because of Biden's continued military support sent to Israel.
00:12:57.300You know, these are people that are pro-Palestine, largely Islamic voters.
00:13:01.520And the question that you and I have been weighing and throwing back and forth on this show for so long about Waltz and Shapiro is how will these 100,000 plus voters, not just in Michigan, but voters in Wisconsin and Minnesota as well, how will they react to Kamala Harris?
00:13:20.020Well, we got a taste of what is going to happen yesterday, and I'm very eager to get your thoughts on this, because Kamala Harris actually attacked one of these pro-Palestine protesters who interrupted her rally and basically accused them of supporting Donald Trump.
00:13:36.580Now, when I saw this, I thought to myself, well, this is this is a tremendous political mistake, in my opinion, because this these are a group of voters that Harris, if she wants to carry the state of Michigan, is going to have to appeal to.
00:13:50.180And you'll see in this clip, it looks like she has no intention of doing so.
00:13:54.180So let's roll that clip of Harris attacking a pro-Palestine protester who spoke up at her rally yesterday in Detroit.
00:14:02.020Because I'm telling you, it is a plan, it is a plan to weaken America's middle class, Project 2025, if he is elected.
00:16:22.440How many lies can you pack into one speech?
00:16:25.500First of all, Donald Trump wants to cut taxes on waiters and waitresses and doormen and busboys and people who live on tips.
00:16:36.360Secondarily, he wants to cut taxes on Social Security recipients, an idea whose time has come.
00:16:47.180Secondarily, there is this ongoing lie that he wants to cut your Social Security benefits.
00:16:53.880He made it absolutely clear that, as the Republican national platform reflects, he's opposed to any cut in Social Security.
00:17:05.160He's opposed to extending the date so you have to be older before you can receive your benefits.
00:17:12.200And he's absolutely opposed to means testing, which is essentially having the government look at Social Security recipients and determine whether they're getting additional income somewhere beyond Social Security, and then cutting their Social Security benefits because of that additional income.
00:17:31.760Trump has made it very, very clear that that is not his position.
00:17:38.900The Republican National Convention adopted a platform which reflects Trump's views on this issue, for example.
00:17:46.920Whereas Agenda 2025, which is not Trump's agenda, it is the agenda of a conservative think tank, favors those Social Security reforms which Trump opposes.
00:18:32.180And that's a huge problem for the Democrats because they have 90-some-odd days before this election.
00:18:39.140No matter how much they say they want to debate Donald Trump, they don't want to debate Donald Trump, and they know it.
00:18:48.040So part of this will be kind of like Trump in the debate with Biden.
00:18:52.880We need to let her speak because when she does, well, the result is extraordinary.
00:19:00.520Let's see what else you've got here for us.
00:19:03.580Well, Roger, we have a few more clips.
00:19:06.100You were somebody who was targeted pretty egregiously by the Justice Department that had been weaponized against allies of the former president.
00:19:16.140And, you know, we're seeing this underlying, I would call it a fascist attitude in the Democrat Party, where if you disagree with them, they cancel you.
00:19:27.080If you disagree with them, they come after you.
00:19:29.400And in your case, they sent armed FBI agents to your home to terrorize you and your dogs and your lovely wife.
00:19:35.280And I think, you know, it's probably the most flagrant abuse of power that I've ever seen.
00:19:42.060And I know so many others, including Tucker Carlson, who have called it the pivotal moment, the raid on your home, the pivotal moment in which a lot of people, including Tucker Carlson, woke up to the fact that we were in a different political time.
00:19:55.160We were in a time of intense persecution and really flagrant abuses of power.
00:20:01.220And this fascism within the Democrat Party is rising up.
00:20:07.300It's the same ideology that allows them to take away the primary votes of millions of Americans when they throw Joe Biden off at the top of the ticket and bring in Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, who the Democrat convention never even voted on.
00:20:21.620And at this rally in Atlanta yesterday, we saw the crowd chanting, lock him up, talking about Donald Trump.
00:20:29.160And Kamala Harris gives a response to this.
00:21:12.940But, of course, what she's saying is not necessarily incorrect.
00:21:16.740It is very clear that Judge Chutkin in the D.C. district court is going to try to move the Jack Smith-inspired trial against Trump.
00:21:27.840And, of course, he still has to be sentenced.
00:21:31.480I believe that date is September 13th in the New York travesty of a trial.
00:21:36.840Now, Trump cannot file an appeal until after sentencing in New York.
00:21:42.560And, of course, he is ready to file an appeal.
00:21:46.420But it would not surprise me that if these folks continue to lose and they know they're losing, yes, they could try to not only incarcerate him for a couple months at the end of the campaign, taking him off the campaign trail.
00:22:03.460And, of course, if Jack Smith gets his way, he will put him on trial as late as October.
00:22:11.540Now, normally, of course, it is the Justice Department's policy that they don't bring these kinds of cases or trials prior to an election.
00:22:22.100But that's only if your name isn't Donald Trump.
00:22:25.560If your name is Donald Trump, there's a whole separate set of rules for you.
00:22:30.100So this is a danger that Trump supporters need to be aware of.
00:22:35.740The weaponized justice system has not stopped.
00:22:39.740Now, as you know, Judge Cannon in Florida ruled that the appointment of Jack Smith was unconstitutional, essentially because there's no provision in law for his position.
00:22:54.740But more importantly, he was never confirmed by the U.S. Senate to have these sweeping prosecutorial powers.
00:23:03.580There's also no money budgeted for his multimillion dollar probe.
00:23:08.820I believe, being very familiar with these arguments because they were raised by a witness in my case, they were wrongly decided by the trial judge and the D.C. appeals court, never got to the Supreme Court.
00:23:25.580I happen to believe that this argument is correct.
00:23:29.340But now Jack Smith, the special counsel, is appealing that Florida ruling by Judge Cannon to the to the 11th Circuit, which where it's a fairly liberal circuit.
00:23:42.840She may get overruled, but that wouldn't disturb me because I still think this question is a crucial question is going to the Supreme Court.
00:23:52.200Now, if the Supreme Court rules that Smith's appointment was indeed unconstitutional, that, of course, means that his indictments are faulty.
00:24:03.740But then again, if Jack Smith's appointment is unconstitutional, well, that means Robert Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional.
00:24:14.160And if Robert Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional, well, then the indictments that he brought against me would be avoided, would be invalidated.
00:24:24.880Consequently, it's actually conceivable that I could get my conviction, which remains on the record, despite the fact that my sentence was commuted and I had a full and unconditional presidential pardon.
00:24:37.680And they seem to leave that out of most of their stories, my conviction could actually be vacated.
00:24:44.680So I'm going to be watching very closely that case.
00:24:48.680But the real point here is the decision by Judge Cannon in Florida is not binding on Judge Chukton in D.C.
00:24:58.920And it's very clear that this case of election interference is still part, very much part of the Democrats' plan.
00:25:09.140Well, and I would say that if I were Trump and his team, I would be eager to get that to the Supreme Court as well, because as we know, Robert Mueller, Jack Smith, all these guys, they are used as a tool of election interference.
00:25:22.720And if Trump were to win this election, Roger, we know that there will be an endless line of special counsels that the Democrats will attempt to appoint in order to slow down things in a potential next Trump administration.
00:25:35.220Now, I wanted to ask you about something because I'm seeing this pop up more and more, Roger.
00:25:39.820People are now coming finally to the realization that there is a good chance that Juan Murchan, despite warnings from lawyers and attorneys and others who say, oh, it would really be out of the ordinary if Juan Murchan handed Trump a jail sentence or a prison sentence based on the case that was so unfairly decided in New York.
00:25:59.620People are coming around to the idea that Trump may actually be put through the ringer by Judge Juan Murchan.
00:26:06.140And we have sentencing coming up, I believe, in September on that.
00:26:09.860And I've heard reports that that Rikers Island has actually started preparing.
00:26:14.680You know, they've had talks with the Secret Service.
00:26:16.260Now that's starting to resurface again.
00:26:18.540We heard initial reports from a long time ago.
00:26:20.600I'm interested to hear where you stand on this.
00:26:23.000Do you think Juan Murchan will do the worst that he can to President Trump and try to put him in prison based on this ruling?
00:26:32.440Look, I think that Judge Murchan is infected with the worst case of Trump derangement syndrome I've ever seen.
00:26:39.420I also think just politically that trying to put the Republican candidate for president in jail months before an election would be a massive, massive miscalculation.
00:26:52.860I think it could actually be a misstep that wins Donald Trump the election.
00:27:38.680And, you know, I think anybody that looks at the entirety of the case and say, OK, well, based on this, what do you think is going to happen?
00:27:47.320And, you know, it's a it's a sad situation.
00:27:50.040But like you said, you know, the mugshot was a boost.
00:27:54.320You know, as as we've gone on here, every time they've attacked him, every time they've kind of stepped it up, it's gotten worse and worse for them.
00:28:01.560So this I think it could be the fatal flaw, the fatal over maybe overcompensating or there's there's some level of of overestimating their own power and their ability to sway things in the media.
00:28:17.260You know, arresting somebody, putting putting President Trump in prison.
00:28:20.360I mean, that would be just the reaction from the press alone, I think, would would turn the American people in a completely different way heading into this election.
00:28:30.360Now, one of the one of the things that it's sad to me, Roger, you know, I started really my journey in media with Biden's election.
00:28:42.220So from the beginning, it's been Biden's press conferences.
00:28:45.960But I got to be honest, I've kind of missed the guy.
00:28:48.680You know, I've been covering him for a long time.
00:28:51.000He's a lot of fun to cover because he always says something stupid, always something that you could you could put out there.
00:28:56.240And I've kind of missed Joe last couple of weeks because we haven't had as much material to cover.
00:29:01.200Although Kamala, you know, she does a lot of speeches.
00:29:03.880And one of the things that I wanted to show you today and get your opinion on was Biden's first interview since he decided to drop out from the 2024 race.
00:29:13.100And he's really been focusing on the Supreme Court, saying that he's going to do all these things about the Supreme Court.
00:29:18.520Or I'm not particularly worried about that because I don't think he has the power to do any of it.
00:29:23.240So I think it's really just noise at this point.
00:29:26.420But he's now doing interviews and saying that there's not going to be a peaceful transfer of power in 2025 if Trump loses.
00:29:35.980And he says that Trump will start some violent uprising or something like this.
00:29:39.560We saw this point raised by Maxine Waters.
00:29:42.660We've seen it raised by Nancy Pelosi and others.
00:29:44.720It's almost like they have something planned that they know is going to happen.
00:29:49.440So let's roll this clip of Biden in his first interview since exiting the race and get Roger's thoughts on what the president had to say.
00:29:56.500Are you confident that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025?
00:30:04.440If Trump wins, no, I'm not confident at all.
00:30:08.100I mean, if Trump loses, I'm not confident at all.
00:30:25.540They're putting people in place in states that they're going to count the votes, right?
00:30:29.840You can't love your country only when you win.
00:30:31.680Now, if I heard that correctly, initially he said that he didn't believe there would be a peaceful transfer of power if Trump won.
00:30:44.520This is essentially the same thing that Jamie Raskin said yesterday, that the Congress would stop Trump if he was elected by declaring that he was in violation of Amendment 14.
00:31:00.620The old Congress, in which the Republicans still control the House, would be in place right up until essentially the inauguration.
00:31:10.840The courts in the ballot access issue did say that the courts didn't have the authority to bar Trump from the ballot, that only the Congress could do that.
00:31:25.060Matt Raskin continues to ignore the fact that no court anywhere has convicted Donald Trump of insurrection.
00:31:34.900That is the only federal crime that would make him ineligible to be president.
00:31:40.920So I think that Joe Biden, which Alzheimer's patients often do, blurted out the truth here.
00:31:48.540At first he said there would be no peaceful transfer of power if Trump won.
00:31:53.360But then he corrected himself, or I think covered himself by saying, no, there'll be no peaceful transfer of power if Trump loses.
00:32:05.620Tomorrow, Troy, let's pull up that clip from Jamie Raskin, the communist congressman from Maryland, and Biden's clip, which I think you have to look at in a much more, in a much different light.
00:32:23.360All right, we're going to go to our guest, because he's been patiently waiting his heels.
00:32:29.900Kenny Cody is a Republican County chairman.
00:32:32.840He is also writes a lively column for human events, and he, for a man his age, he is quite articulate, and he's actually been with us several times.
00:33:20.340A couple weeks ago, I really did believe, and all my Democrat sources were telling me, that Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro essentially had a lock on the vice presidential nomination.
00:33:34.140The thinking went that he would bring Pennsylvania, which is a true battleground state, and that that would shift the balance in the swing states to Kamala Harris.
00:33:48.420Then, based on my own sources yet again, Barack Obama particularly went to Kamala and said the selection of Shapiro would cost the Democrats Minnesota and Michigan with their large Muslim populations.
00:34:08.440Both, by the way, extremely active in the Democrat Party, and therefore Shapiro was not selected.
00:34:16.220Now, there's more to this, because had Shapiro been selected, I think there would have been a major focus on his mishandling of a high-profile murder case, where Jack Posobiec is right, that as Attorney General, Mr. Shapiro had direct connections to those involved in the case.
00:34:39.520There would have been a new focus on the Pennsylvania State Police outside the perimeter of the Butler, Pennsylvania rally, where President Donald Trump was most definitely shot at.
00:34:55.800And Corey Comparatore, and Corey Comparatore, a great Italian-American and fire chief, died saving his wife and his children, shielding them.
00:35:06.540So the thinking was that Shapiro, who really thought he had this wrapped up, was passed by over those issues, and that they selected Tim Walsh.
00:35:24.800As I said earlier on the show, the third contender, Mark Kelly, I think his contention was blown up when it was learned that he's actually partners with the Chinese communist company that makes the satellite spy balloons that Joe Biden let float all the way across the United States,
00:35:47.140including over our nuclear base, including over our nuclear base in Montana, our missile base, before finally shooting it down over the ocean, but only after it had downloaded all of its surveillance data by computer to the communist Chinese servers in Beijing.
00:36:06.640So that knocked him out of contention, giving us Governor Walz.
00:36:12.820Walz was thought to be the candidate who did no harm, but you have an incredible article in which you make the case that Walz may actually be more radical than Kamala Harris.
00:36:28.760I mean, yeah, Mr. Stone, if you look at his record, both in Congress and as the governor of Minnesota, I mean, he ever saw the George Floyd riots,
00:36:37.260supported Kamala Harris's bailout procedure, his fundraising, her fundraising procedure to bail out the Minnesota rioters that were robbing businesses, that were breaking glasses, that were destroying businesses.
00:36:46.940And he said his wife also smelt the rubber outside of the protests and the riots in 2020.
00:36:52.540And she was reminded about what they should be doing and they should be allowing what was happening to happen to fellow Minnesotians in that state as their literal businesses were being burned down.
00:37:04.600There was basically an insurrection at several capitals in the United States, and they were enjoying the riots in Minnesota.
00:37:10.820If you look at his record in Congress, he was not a bipartisan in the least.
00:37:14.760He was not a moderate, which was expected for Kamala Harris to do because of her progressive record for her to go with a moderate.
00:37:20.060Somebody like Andy Beshear, somebody like, as you've stated, Josh Shapiro, or maybe even somebody who's appealing like Pete Buttigieg.
00:37:26.940But she went with the most radical pick that she could have, and this has become the most radical leftist ticket in American history.
00:37:32.680And with his record in Minnesota and now his stolen valor accusations coming out, I mean, all of these rumors about walls coming out on the Internet,
00:37:42.700all of these veterans that are speaking out against him, abatting his military force and providing and rejecting his service in Iraq when he was called upon by his country,
00:37:53.760and then proclaiming that he has done all these things in his military service and has at bare minimum exaggerated things about his military service.
00:38:03.240So not only is he a radical leftist and has proceeded over the most authoritarian leftist procedure that has ever been done from the gubernatorial office of governor in Minnesota,
00:38:13.120he has also been accused of being one of the biggest liars in American history to win a VP nomination.
00:38:19.820He's not won it yet, but he's going to be nominated to commission and going to be confirmed.
00:38:22.720But this ticket has become radically left by Kamala Harris's pick, and this really shows her lack of political judgment.
00:38:29.660But like you stated, all of these people, such as Barack Obama, like Nancy Pelosi, have all been pushing for this leftist ticket.
00:38:38.180I mean, and I think now that Shapiro has been pushed to the side, mainly because he was a Jew and a moderate,
00:38:44.920I mean, that's at least said by most people, that's really reflective of how culturally Marxist the left has gone
00:38:52.200and how culturally Marxist Kamala Harris has gone to appeal to the most far left wing of the Democratic Party.
00:38:58.020And now that she has made this selection, this really shows her lack of judgment.
00:39:03.120It shows her weakness to cave onto who has promoted her to being the presidential nominee.
00:39:08.040And now with Tim Wall, she's created attacks for her that were no longer there.
00:39:12.080I mean, I think the best choice in a VP is somebody who can articulate the message and somebody who is non-controversial.
00:39:17.940And she has went with somebody who can barely articulate really the message,
00:39:21.540cannot appeal to Rust Belt voters besides wearing a camouflage hat,
00:39:24.360and has more baggage than the Detroit airport.
00:39:28.320I mean, we are seeing somebody who is as leftist and has as much baggage because of his lack of military,
00:39:34.200his lack of military service and his rejection to serve his country as anybody in American history.
00:39:38.760So I don't think the Republicans could have asked for anybody better than Tim Walls
00:39:41.800because this has become the most radical leftist, culturally Marxist ticket in American history and in the history of the DNC.
00:39:47.440I think that's an excellent analysis, Kenny.
00:39:51.360You know, look, I think the entire Kamala Harris campaign is essentially a giant psyop.
00:39:58.000They're trying to convince us that she's extraordinarily popular.
00:40:01.380They're trying to convince us that she's surging in the polls.
00:40:04.960They're trying to convince us that hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars are pouring in.
00:40:10.200Well, it's all through Act Blue and how much of it's money laundered and how much of it's real.
00:53:12.060But in this case, Barack Obama has inserted two of his top lieutenants.
00:53:18.280Those would be David Plouffe, I think is the way you say his name, Stephanie Cutter and Michael Stewart.
00:53:25.500But whether they are above the ongoing campaign manager, a woman named Jen O'Malley Dillon,
00:53:34.640and those who've been working for Kamala Harris is really not clear.
00:53:40.000My friends who are Democrats tell me the ultimate result here will be chaos, absolute chaos, infighting, strategic disagreements, and so on.
00:53:51.880At this point, she continues to enjoy this fake buildup in the media centered around the question of, you know, the historic nature of her candidacy.
00:54:05.540Now, yesterday on the Alex Jones Show, I did say, and I'll say this again, people who killed John F. Kennedy, people who tried to kill Ronald Reagan,
00:54:19.320people who orchestrated the Russian collusion hoax and then tried to, in my opinion, kill President Donald Trump,
00:54:28.980they're perfectly capable of getting Joe Biden out of the way.
00:54:34.960I don't, I don't, I pray this doesn't happen, in fact, but that Joe Biden, I think, is growingly infirm.
00:54:42.760And one way to elevate the candidacy of Kamala Harris would be, of course, if she became president upon Joe's death.
00:54:51.780Now, I watched the church hearings back in the 70s, and I saw them discuss a drug that the CIA had developed that could be injected in someone,
00:55:01.580would cause a heart attack, would cause a heart attack, but would leave no chemical trace, no toxicity case.