Roger Stone and Troy Smith are back on the road in Pennsylvania talking about the recent attack on President Trump's trip to Arlington and the Democratic primary challenger, Kamala Harris. They also discuss the latest in the John Kelly scandal and why the attack on the president should be seen as an opportunity for Trump supporters to get out and vote for him in 2020. They also talk about why the attacks on Trump should be taken as a red flag for the 2020 Democratic primary and why it s a good thing that Americans are turning out in droves to vote for Trump and why he s a better choice than any other presidential candidate in the country. The Stone Zone is produced by Roger Stone and is brought to you by Slingshot News and the Daily Caller. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents and is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and has lectured at Oxford and Oxford University. He is a prolific writer and has been a regular contributor to publications such as The Daily Caller, The Weekly Standard, and The New Republic, and the Weekly Standard. He is an avid reader of the New Republic and The Globe and Mail, and a frequent contributor to the New York Post. and The Daily Mail, among other publications. The New York Magazine, and many other publications, including Playboy, The Daily Beast, The Hollywood Reporter, Playboy, and Rolling Stone, and Playboy, among many others. He has been described as "America's Most Influential Person." in a new book written by John Rocha. in the latest edition of The New Yorker. by John Sommers, The Spectator, The Economist, The Huffington Post, The Harvard Crimson, and National Post, and American Spectator. In this episode, Jack Posobiec joins the show to discuss what s going on in the world of politics and culture, and what s happening in Washington, D. on the streets of New York City, and why you should be paying attention to what s really going on the ground in 2020 and why we should care. about it. And, of course, there s going to be a hell of a good time in the midterms and why they should vote for the president of the other guy.
00:19:23.220Election Day, nine weeks exactly from today.
00:19:26.420We've already lived through an election cycle of what seems to me to have multiple historic and unprecedented moments.
00:19:35.040Roger, you'd know better than any of us if any other cycle has had such moments as this, none jumps to mind, none comes to mind.
00:19:43.560When you think of it, all the things that we've seen, the assassination attempt on President Trump, the dropping out of Joe Biden, the disastrous debate even before then, and on and on and on.
00:19:56.020So many things happening to affect the election in the midst of the election, which are, which is totally averse to policy.
00:20:03.900And I think that, by and large, Americans have whiplash from all of the snap developments that have really turned this into a flash election.
00:20:13.720Certainly the first time in American history that one of the two major parties put forward and nominated a candidate for president that literally no one in that party voted for.
00:20:26.220No, no, no, no Democrat primary voter, no Democrat caucus attendee.
00:20:32.140Nobody voted for Kamala Harris, who they continue to try to hide.
00:20:38.300I've also normally a presidential candidate wants as much exposure as they can possibly get.
00:20:44.520That's why Donald Trump does so many rallies.
00:20:46.960It's why he does so many podcasts, why he does so many interviews.
00:20:51.620Their game seems to be one of hide the ball.
00:20:54.540In other words, let's avoid mistakes by not letting Kamala Harris speak.
00:21:01.440We spoke earlier, Jack, about this controversy regarding the Arlington Cemetery.
00:21:09.480Now, you're a veteran, a veteran of Navy intelligence, served your country with distinction and with honor.
00:21:16.040What did you make of that entire flap?
00:21:18.260Well, Roger, we actually on Human Events Daily had an interview with the mother-in-law of Marine Sergeant Nicole Gee prior to Kamala Harris's statement,
00:21:33.500where we first broke the story that the Gold Star families involved with Abbey Gate,
00:21:41.500which is significant, by the way, because folks need to understand that the Abbey Gate massacre,
00:21:46.160the Abbey Gate attack was the final soldiers and Marines that were killed in Afghanistan.
00:21:53.200So you take the entire 20-year-plus Afghan war, these were the final Americans who lost their lives on that battlefield and over in that desert.
00:22:03.180And I've never seen before a time where Gold Star families were themselves put on the spot like this.
00:22:13.340I've never seen any politician attack directly a Gold Star family out of nowhere.
00:22:18.580I've never seen a situation where Gold Star families had to go and do damage control from an event.
00:22:25.500And this really speaks to the nature of the type of candidacy that they're up against, because it's not Kamala Harris.
00:22:32.420It is a system, an insider system that has decided to stand against the basic interests of Americans.
00:22:40.340And to take an event like this, politicize it, weaponize it, attack it first in the media,
00:22:45.660and then finally in a post by Kamala Harris, it is unconscionable to me to think so.
00:22:52.660And by the way, the repercussions of politicizing Gold Star families, it has yet to be seen.
00:23:38.780We were told from a high-level source within – with access to the Kamala Harris world that it was, in fact, Tony West,
00:23:48.480the brother-in-law of Kamala Harris – this is the husband of Maya West, herself, who was an advisor to Hillary Clinton in 2016.
00:23:58.420So that's Kamala's sister – that Tony West, who was not before affiliated with the Biden campaign the way that many of the other campaign officials still are,
00:24:08.100or the Waltz camp, who, of course, would at least have some familiarity with military procedure,
00:24:14.180even though he himself has made a mockery of his own service and his own claims of service that he did not perform,
00:24:19.420he would at least know or probably have the wherewithal to say, don't attack the Gold Star families.
00:24:25.080We were, in fact, told that that post was the brainchild of none other than Tony West.
00:24:30.740He was the one thinking that it was time to go all in on Donald Trump.
00:24:34.180He doesn't have much of a political background other than being Obama supporter.
00:24:37.880He is a lawyer for the Uber company, the Uber app, and he's been involved tangentially through his sister-in-law and his sister, Maya,
00:24:45.980So basically you've got this situation where what was once a shade war between Biden and Kamala and their various teams,
00:24:54.020now you have a three-way or perhaps a two-front shade war where you've got Team Kamala,
00:24:58.980the vestiges of Team Biden that are still on the campaign, and now Team Waltz,
00:25:04.040who are sort of shotgun married into the whole thing, into this sort of Frankenstein creation that is the Kamala Harris campaign.
00:25:11.220Perhaps they think that this somehow cuts against the shocking, overwhelming evidence that Tim Waltz has completely fabricated his military record.
00:25:26.680I mean, yes, he was in the military, but I covered this in my 77 WABC radio show last weekend.
00:25:33.020I mean, this guy just compounded lie after lie after lie.
00:25:37.660So perhaps they think that shifting the focus to this attack on the Gold Star families will somehow fix that.
00:25:47.180I wonder whether they regret their selection of Tim Waltz yet.
00:25:53.380Well, Roger, it's actually fantastic because when you think about it, if you wanted to make some claims about anything regarding military,
00:26:01.060certainly you would think that the person doing so would be the one who would actually perform some kind of service in the military,
00:26:07.300who had actually worn the uniform at some point in their lives.
00:26:10.400But, of course, they couldn't use Tim Waltz to make this response because if they had, then, of course, that would open him up to his own questions and failed claims and tall tales about his own service in the military,
00:26:24.600when, in fact, he was the one who has lied about his service.
00:26:27.960He is the one who dishonored National Guardsmen.
00:26:30.380He is the one who dishonored his unit.
00:26:32.160And I saw members of his unit came out in the Megyn Kelly program this weekend and did a huge interview completely denouncing him.
00:26:39.860And so this this is a really, really bad situation for them.
00:26:43.720And if I were the Democrats looking at the internal polls the way they are, I would certainly be asking if we could switch up the ticket yet again.
00:26:50.200But I'm not sure you can get two switch outs in one election cycle because, look, Roger, where are the Democrats spending their time this week?
00:26:56.880The Democrat ticket are spending time in New Hampshire.
00:27:00.260They're then going into Virginia and they're also going into Minnesota, a state that supposedly or at least nominally that Tim Waltz would have locked up because he's the sitting governor of Minnesota.
00:27:10.800These are the states that Donald Trump was putting into play at the tail end of the Biden nomination.
00:27:17.420And the fact the Democrats are there, I don't know.
00:27:21.020Perhaps it could be 40 chess or perhaps their internals are crashing just as much as is as suspected.
00:27:27.200Interestingly, I saw a study this weekend that showed that in the election of Glenn Youngkin as governor of Virginia, as well as in 2016, when President Trump carried Pennsylvania, that the the vote totals, the vote percentage of veterans was much higher than it was in 2020.
00:27:51.520So I actually think in a way veterans may hold one of the keys to this this this upcoming election.
00:28:00.200Troy, do you have a question for for our guest, Jack Sobek?
00:28:05.960Folks, if you're not familiar with Human Events, probably the single most important media outlet in the in the seminal stages of the conservative movement.
00:28:16.260But Jack and his folks have brought it to a whole new level.
00:36:58.640So Tim Waltz, and this is starting to show, and I can understand why his brother is now out on Facebook denouncing him
00:37:08.600and saying that he doesn't have the right character because there are times when people in politics embellish.
00:37:14.800I think that the casual political observer or just sort of an average American knows that politicians are always sort of slanting things to their advantage,
00:37:22.560that there's going to be a bias when you hear a liberal or a slight bias in their favor when you hear a conservative.
00:37:27.980But these were not slight issues of bias or embellishment.
00:38:31.180And when you think about his 30 trips to China, not 26, it's now said there's 30 trips to China, that he was going over there meeting Chinese officials in a way, by the way, that I've talked about for years, that when I spent time in China myself, I would see politicians come over and become enamored with the Chinese system, that I would be in Shanghai and see them coming in and say, oh, well, you want to build a high-speed rail or you want to build housing projects in the Soviet style or you want to take control of your city and do these things.
00:38:58.500And by the way, this is exactly how he governed during COVID.
00:39:04.240He was sending the National Guard around, his own former National Guard, and having them shoot people with paintballs if they came out of their house and broke curfew.
00:39:12.160He was the one who presided over the most draconian Chinese-style lockdown in America.
00:39:17.440And so it doesn't surprise me at all that he was going over there becoming enamored with China.
00:39:21.740I went over there, and I learned about communism, and I learned about how we shouldn't have that here in any way, shape, or form.
00:39:28.000He went to China and decided that this – he went to China and took notes and tried to bring this system back to America, and there's a lot of people trying to do that right now.
00:39:36.380Speaking of communism, you have a great new book out that you talked about here with us before, Unhumans.
00:39:45.680For those who want to understand the epic evil of communism, this is, in fact, the book for you.
00:39:53.920Well, Roger, I have to say that Unhumans has been a smash success, owing, of course, to your promotion of the book as well as just all of the – everything that's come to light regarding the truth about Joseph McCarthy, the truth about the – by the way, Robert F. Kennedy Sr. working with Joseph McCarthy to expose the communist infiltration in our country
00:40:19.220and the way that this has totally shaped our government and shaped our system in this country.
00:40:24.280And so it became the number one publisher's weekly national bestseller, USA Today bestseller, and I'm proud to say is also a New York Times bestseller, The Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
00:40:39.880And actually, Roger, I'm happy to be able to announce here today that because it's so successful and because, well, Joshua Lysak, my co-author, and myself are just perhaps were sadists, we've decided to actually write another book in the same year
00:40:54.940because that system, which was created through communist infiltration, has produced another assassination attempt this year.
00:41:03.240And that assassination attempt, like the assassinations of JFK and RFK before him, was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
00:41:11.080And so, in fact, we're writing a new book regarding all of this as well as how it tied to the coup against Joe Biden,
00:41:16.780who was essentially thrown out of office by the same forces that threw Nixon out, that attempted to throw Trump out,
00:41:24.040and we are calling it bulletproof how a shot meant for Donald Trump took out Joe Biden, the most consequential week in American political history.
00:41:33.040And, Roger, you'll appreciate there's a section in there called The Nine Days in July,
00:41:37.440where we go through each day in excruciating detail and explain exactly what went down, both publicly and also behind the scenes, including many never-before-seen details.
00:41:51.640Yeah, it seems like every day we get new details about Butler, Pennsylvania, but the mainstream media really wants to move on.
00:42:02.080I mean, we've seen the limitations put on it, the censorship, the shadow banning of any discussion on the Internet, largely on social media.
00:42:14.240I seriously, I think Clay Higgins, the congressman from Louisiana, former police officer, has been on my radio show.
00:42:22.080I had an opportunity to pray with him, meet with him at the Republican National Convention.
00:42:28.900I think he's a very smart guy with a law enforcement background.
00:42:34.020He's conducting his own investigation because I think he realizes, he is a member of the House Committee,
00:42:39.680but I think he realizes that the FBI essentially is now saying,
00:42:46.260Thomas Matthew Crooks, sole shooter, motive unknown.
00:42:52.000This is almost exactly what J. Edgar Hoover said after the murder of John F. Kennedy.
00:42:59.160Seven days, the FBI under Hoover concluded their investigation, concluding that Lee Harvey Oswald, lone nut, Russian communist,
00:43:09.540shot JFK, three shots all from behind, motive unknown other than his communism.
00:43:16.060Awesome. This is very reminiscent of it. Do you think we will ever get to the bottom of what really happened here?
00:43:24.220Roger, we are doing our utmost to get to the bottom of this.
00:43:27.000We're working with a number of senators and congressmen who are conducting independent investigations.
00:43:32.520We're also even in discussions with, let's just say, private investigators in western Pennsylvania that are conducting independent investigations on the ground,
00:43:43.420doing the real shoe leather work of this, and you're going to see that put into the book.
00:43:47.280Also, of course, as we learn more, we're going to be doing updates and further additions to it.
00:43:52.200We have a way for, if anyone purchases the Kindle version or the audio version, we'll be adding to it.
00:43:58.680I'm actually going to be reading the book myself this time, and we'll release various chapters as new things come up.
00:44:04.840But I do think that eventually this has too much at stake, there's too much going on, there are too many people focused on it,
00:44:12.480that these questions about his foreign encrypted accounts, the pictures of him using his phone immediately prior to the shooting,
00:44:24.120these questions about how it was that he was able to fly a drone when supposedly the Secret Services drone didn't work.
00:44:31.380And actually, Chuck Grassley of Iowa asked the senator after a fantastic question of Chris Wright.
00:44:35.900Why did the Secret, sir, I believe he asked Ron Rowe this question, rather.
00:44:41.160He said, why did your drone not work with the shooters in?
00:44:45.040And you can look in the photographs of President Trump from that event.
00:44:48.540And if you look at the – most people have looked at the photos showing Trump's face by looking at – and looking at the stands in the background.
00:44:55.820But if you look at the reverse angle of those photos, the Washington Post has published a series that weren't obviously as iconic as the one where he's throwing his fist up in the air from the New York Times.
00:45:04.880But the Washington Post photos show that there were three cell phone towers immediately to the right of President Trump when he was speaking.
00:45:15.920This is why the shooter's drone worked.
00:45:17.480So when the Secret Service tells us they couldn't get a drone up because of spotty cell phone coverage, it beggars belief because the shooter was able to use his drone in the exact same time frame that the Secret Service told us they couldn't.
00:45:29.740And also, Roger, there's very serious questions, I believe, that have gone unanswered about the shooter – about the SWAT team, the local SWAT team, the Beaver County ESU.
00:45:43.120Why did they leave their overwatch position overlooking the AGR building where they would have had a perfect view of the shooter as he shimmied onto the roof?
00:45:51.940And in fact, we are told that they left that roof immediately when he climbed up to the roof.
00:45:58.120And when they say climbed and shimmied around, well, even that isn't actually the case because we now have cell phone footage from across the rally showing that he was not obfuscating or crawling.
00:46:29.940They do not respond until the shots ring out beforehand.
00:46:33.980And by the way, we're actually told that the first shot, and this, of course, also comes from a congressional investigative report, that a local police officer is the first one who gets a shot off before the Secret Service counter-sniper team whose sole purpose is to look for snipers.
00:46:51.380Roger, the American people know the stinks to high heaven.
00:46:54.020When I went on Tucker, he basically said this all sounds like BS.
00:46:57.700I think we all agree that there is more that meets the eye here.
00:47:01.120Who is this guy talking to, and more importantly, why was President Trump only given three additional Secret Service post-standards when Dr. Jill Biden had an indoor dinner down the road in Pittsburgh that very same evening was given 12.
00:47:16.880Three for President Trump at an outdoor rally, and yet 12 for Jill Biden at an indoor dinner.
00:47:24.060Roger, it makes no sense if you think that their goal was to secure President Trump that day.
00:47:30.440But in fact, if their goal was to leave President Trump unsecured, then their mission was accomplished.
00:47:37.360Yeah, this is why I think of President Trump's idea of appointing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to head a commission.
00:47:45.360And notice he called it a commission on presidential assassination attempts.
00:47:50.180I found that very interesting because it would theoretically give him broad authority to not only examine the assassination of JFK, the assassination of his own father.
00:48:04.440If you've never seen his compelling interview with Mike Tyson, of all people, which you may not have, because YouTube took it down within minutes of it being posted, but where he speaks about the assassination of his dad.
00:48:18.440But also the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, which we still don't have all the answers on, writing a book on that very subject right now, as well as the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
00:48:33.400I think this is a brilliant, brilliant idea on the president's part.
00:48:38.720Troy, do you have another comment or question for Jack?
00:48:43.600The proximity between this assassination attempt on Trump and the replacement of Joe Biden, I think, is eerie for a lot of people.
00:48:51.200Is this an indicator to you that this was a high-level operation, that they quickly wanted to get out of the mainstream kind of dialect?
00:48:59.520Or do you think that this was more of a political situation that happened afterwards?
00:49:05.560Do you think the two are related in any way?
00:49:07.320I believe the two are intrinsically related.
00:49:10.760If Joe Biden was running for office and had not been taken out—remember, by the way, that all of these issues with Joe Biden existed prior to the debate.
00:49:22.620These were in evidence all the way back in 2020 when Donald Trump was bringing them up beforehand.
00:49:30.180By the way, the issue was never Joe Biden's age.
00:49:32.840The issue was his mental state, the fact that he had a deteriorating mental state, some kind of degenerative disease.
00:49:40.940And by the way, I've got family members that are older than Joe Biden.
00:49:44.300I've got—we all know people who are at that age or older than that age, and they are far more generally, far more cognitively aware than Joe Biden is.
00:49:55.640They have that mental acuity, whereas he does not.
00:49:59.300However, the DNC had no problem with this.
00:50:01.200The actual power brokers, the shadow elite, the regime had no issue with this whatsoever.
00:50:06.300In fact, they liked having him in this state because he wouldn't push back on the things they wanted.
00:50:11.060He wouldn't push back on these disastrous policies like the Ukraine war, the push back on the interest rate hikes, push back on the insane inflationary spending.
00:50:19.800And by the way, putting the Green New Deal into the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:50:23.900A fact, by the way, that Kamala Harris actually forgot to lie about in CNN, and she just brazenly admitted because, again, she forgot what she was supposed to be saying, that the official boilerplate is that this was not the Green New Deal.
00:50:35.740But she just went ahead and admitted it, but the fact of the matter remains that debate exposed Joe Biden.
00:50:42.020And so when Donald Trump looked as if he was at his epigee, his highest possible point of winning, that's when the security posture was dropped.
00:51:23.260They essentially walk him out of his own administration.
00:51:26.340They walk him out of his own nomination.
00:51:27.800They take all of the 14 million votes that have been handed to him because they were never really his.
00:51:32.860And this is what people have to understand.
00:51:35.420Those votes were never really Joe Biden's in the same way that they don't belong to anyone other than who the DNC and the regime commanders would allow them to be.
00:51:46.760This is what RFK and Nicole Shanahan have come out saying.
00:51:50.780This is not a democratic primary process, that this is a controlled facsimile of an actual representation of the people, a reflection of the will of the people.
00:52:02.660It is a reflection of the party bosses and their power brokers that is reflected in the nomination.
00:52:08.700So this is why it was easily changeable.
00:52:10.800Well, the money was handed over and the FEC has no curiosity or even interest as to look at the legato, completely illegal, by the way, taking money from Joe Biden and handing all of it to Kamala Harris.
00:52:22.400I couldn't even begin to tell you the amount of crimes that are committed there.
00:52:25.240It's a it's a campaign violation in every single instance of a donation being illegally transferred from one to the other.
00:52:31.440But of course, they're and they'll throw out Donald Trump in prison over an accounting violation that isn't even an accounting violation.
00:52:37.780And so we have to understand the nature of the system that we're in.
00:52:42.040And I believe, Roger, by your work on JFK and RFK and then Watergate and in what we've been able to put together just in the last couple of weeks.
00:52:51.020And it's only been a few weeks since this since the shooting, I believe, as far as I know, this will be the first book bulletproof released on Trump's assassination attempt, as well as the tie to the Biden coup.
00:53:03.680That's what we've been able to put together.
00:53:05.460It actually shows the true nature of the system under which we live.
00:53:09.880Jack, there's a new movie out, which I was unaware of until I saw it on your feed on X.
00:55:53.080Well, Roger, there's two things going on.
00:55:56.480Number one, of course, that this film directly depicts the rise of child slavery and child
00:56:04.140trafficking within California and other areas of the Southwest.
00:56:07.760And specifically, though, because it affects California in terms of labor trafficking and slave labor that's being done in modern day in California.
00:56:17.420California, most of this took this film and these networks were built during Kamala Harris's tenure as attorney general.
00:56:24.420The story tells a story tells a story of Kamala Harris, California, follows a Mexican boy, a migrant who comes up trying to go to this soccer camp and then then finds a way essentially into a life of indentured servitude.
00:56:38.720Yet the film, when you go to see it, there have been reported by my brother.
00:56:44.040And by the way, we keep being told, oh, this isn't happening.
00:56:46.440And yet time after time, my brother's tried this.
00:56:49.940Other social media, you know, folks that have been looking into it have tried this where you'll go and you'll say you'll walk up to a movie theater and say, oh, I'd like to get a purchase for City of Dreams.
00:57:00.620And suddenly they say, well, you know, it's sold out or maybe there's only one seat left and you can you can get that one seat until you buy that seat.
00:57:08.340But then you walk in and the theater is practically empty and it doesn't seem that there's anyone there.
00:57:13.640And so that those, you know, those choose your own seat screens that were now presented with the movie theaters, for some reason, do not match up with the theaters that we're seeing.
00:57:23.840And now there could be perhaps an innocuous explanation for this, but it also seems to be to me and to many others looking at it, raise questions about whether or not there was some kind of suppression going on of this film.
00:57:36.120And that this film, which talks about these violent, again, exploitive networks targeting child trafficking and the flow of children and labor markets coming across our border is being suppressed because the narrative is so dangerous for those in power that are, in fact, benefiting from those same networks.