The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


Who is Really Running America? w⧸ Roger Stone, Greg Stenstrom & Dr. Timothy Shindelar


Summary

Who's really running the country? Who's making decisions about the Secret Service, the Justice Department, and the tsunami of lawfare against President Donald Trump? Who is running the intelligence agencies, who cooked up the Russian collusion hoax, who helped dream up the Ukrainian scandal, and who made the smake of asking about what the Bidens had been up to? Who made the decision to sue a man who was a supporter of President Trump in the case against the Democratic National Committee and Mayor Rudy Giuliani in the Casey v. Stenstrom case? And who's really calling the shots when it comes to the government and the ruling clique that we call, "Based on Law"? Is it the CIA, the KGB, the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, or the World Economic Forum? Or is it the Deep State, the Deep state, or is it something else entirely? Who really runs the country and who is really in charge? Who's really responsible for everything that happens in the United States, and why is it so important to be a part of it? Who is really running America? And who really controls the country, and what does it really mean to be American ? and why does it matter who really runs it? The answer may surprise you. The answer to these questions will surprise you in this episode of The Stone Zone, hosted by legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone. . . . Roger Stone! Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents and is a New York Times best-selling author, best selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald J. Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and has lectured to countless venues . Stone has become a pop culture icon and is an outspoken libertarian, an outspoken free thinker, and speaks at countless events a prolific writer, and he's appeared on countless venues, including The Huffington Post, Harvard Law Review, The New York Magazine, The Daily Mail, and The Harvard Spectacle, The Harvard Crimson, and much more? and The New Republic? The Weekly Standard, and Harvard Business Review? - all of which you can find Roger Stone on social media? He's got it all. He also has a book out on his website, too.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.060 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:10.640 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:16.820 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:22.360 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:27.120 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.100 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:41.220 Welcome back. I'm Roger Stone. And of course, you're back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:46.360 So who really runs America?
00:00:49.200 I mean, we know that Joe Biden is in a diminished capacity at a minimum.
00:00:54.100 And Kamala Harris is out trying to seal all of Donald Trump's policy proposals and agendas and pledged to get them done immediately, as if they were hers.
00:01:07.460 But who's really running the country?
00:01:09.780 Who's making the decisions about the Secret Service and how they should conduct themselves in Butler, Pennsylvania?
00:01:16.760 Who's making decisions about the Justice Department and the tsunami of lawfare against President Donald Trump?
00:01:26.780 Who is running the intelligence agencies who cooked up the Russian collusion hoax?
00:01:33.680 Who helped dream up the Ukrainian scandal, which, as we now know, was the Bidens who were doing business corporately in Ukraine,
00:01:45.640 and not Donald Trump, who made the smake of asking about what the Bidens had been up to?
00:01:50.980 I actually have begun to think, as a conservative and someone who's been in the movement, I examined the actions at the Bohemian Grove.
00:02:02.540 I looked at the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, and, of course, the latest iteration, the World Economic Forum.
00:02:16.660 These people speak openly about extinguishing everything about us, including our love of God,
00:02:24.140 but essentially making certain that we own nothing, that we eat insects, that we have biochips inserted into us so they can control what we think.
00:02:37.580 But when it comes to the government, who's really calling the shots?
00:02:42.300 And I recently learned, absolutely for certain, with hard legal evidence to support what you're going to hear again today on The Stone Zone,
00:02:56.980 is that there's a small circle of unelected officials within our government who constitute a ruling clique that we call, based on law, the council.
00:03:11.120 Now, how do I know that?
00:03:14.120 Well, during the last election, I became aware, through a mutual friend who had been at the Naval Academy with my next guest,
00:03:26.260 of the activities of Commander Gregory Stenstrom, who is an extraordinary individual with technical capabilities
00:03:38.080 that of me, as a guy who can barely operate my cell phone, he is a master of internet technology, investigative techniques, forensic evidence collection.
00:03:51.920 But more importantly, he was a supporter of President Donald Trump.
00:03:56.160 And he didn't like it when the 2020 election in Pennsylvania was stolen.
00:04:02.540 And he took immediate action, for which he was sued.
00:04:08.780 Now, Greg Stenstrom is a great man and has an extraordinary military record.
00:04:14.920 I'll let him tell you his bona fides.
00:04:17.340 I've seen him in the battlefield.
00:04:19.460 He defended himself, pro se, as did his colleague Leah Hoops, another freedom fighter active in the Pennsylvania Republican Party.
00:04:28.260 He sued in the lawsuit with them were President Donald Trump and Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
00:04:34.500 It was a defamation suit, and they were charged with lying about corruption and the machines and the process in Pennsylvania.
00:04:45.960 And their defense was simple and direct.
00:04:48.680 They proved the fraud.
00:04:50.020 They proved the fraud in court.
00:04:53.720 You see, when liberals tell you, when you complain about the anomalies and irregularities and outright fraud in the last presidential election,
00:05:05.760 they say, well, that was 62 courts rejected that.
00:05:09.380 No, 62 courts refused to hear that.
00:05:12.420 In almost every case, these cases were dismissed, not on the evidence, but on a question of standing.
00:05:21.020 Even the U.S. Supreme Court, after 21 state attorney generals asked the court to look at this election process, the U.S. Supreme Court stood down.
00:05:32.280 Greg Stenstrom and his colleague Leah Hoops represented themselves, pro se, and they beat the machine.
00:05:40.440 They tried to move this case.
00:05:43.300 They tried to threaten them.
00:05:45.240 In the case of Stenstrom and Hoops, the Democrats and the cabal trying to destroy them offered to drop them from the case if they would turn on Trump and Giuliani.
00:05:58.580 And they refused.
00:06:00.840 That's courage, my friend.
00:06:02.620 And then to go on and win that case, that's a landmark case.
00:06:05.920 Now, will you see it written extensively in the mainstream news?
00:06:10.720 No, you won't.
00:06:12.800 But through that case, I became acquainted with one of our guests.
00:06:18.120 He brings with him a colleague who I have met and spent good times with because he's a good companion.
00:06:25.220 He is also a veteran of the Navy and the Marine Corps, I believe.
00:06:32.400 That would be Dr. Timothy Schindler, a hell of a guy, but also a man who deeply understands the intelligence agencies, the organization of government, the way the government legally functions.
00:06:45.880 And they have uncovered the answer to what I have always wondered, which is, who's really running things?
00:06:54.380 Gentlemen, thank you, and welcome back in the Stone Zone.
00:07:00.140 Pleasure to be here.
00:07:02.060 Again, love your show.
00:07:05.280 Gentlemen, sorry if that was a little long-winded.
00:07:09.400 No, it was great.
00:07:10.420 I appreciate being here and ready to go today.
00:07:16.060 Fire it up.
00:07:17.260 All right.
00:07:18.400 So, gentlemen, there's a lot to talk about here because I think I want people to understand who's really running the country on a day-to-day decision basis, what their involvement may have been in the attempted assassination, what you foresee their involvement being in the upcoming election.
00:07:36.180 So, Commander, if you don't mind, we'll go with a lesser rank, and then Colonel, Colonel, we'll be back to you in just a moment.
00:07:46.760 Greg, welcome back in the Zone.
00:07:49.040 Thank you very much, Roger.
00:07:50.300 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:07:51.320 Since November 2020, grassroots patriots across the United States, that included Leah Hoops and myself, have been fighting to expose the massive election fraud that we observed and documented in the 2020 election to the American public.
00:08:09.220 We were isolated and viciously attacked, along with President Trump, Roger, you were attacked, Alex Jones, Dinesh D'Souza, Steve Bannon, Naomi Wolf, Joe Hoft, and premier journalists like Carlson Tucker and Emile Robinson who were ousted from their networks.
00:08:28.020 We've seen the assassination attempt on President Trump, the removal of Joe Biden from the presidency, the installation of presumptive presidential nominee Harris, the weaponization of our government agencies against the citizenry, and the quashing of transparency in court cases throughout the country.
00:08:46.880 Colonel Sinelar and I were classmates at the U.S. Naval Academy, and he was watching this, watching Leah, myself, and other patriots across the country fighting the election fraud, and he had been working for several years previous to that with a group of very senior people in the military and the government, some of our other classmates, and he reached out to me, and he let Leah and myself know that we were not alone.
00:09:16.880 And that others were in the fight for our country across a broad front against what I learned from him was an organization called the Council, which is actually their name.
00:09:29.560 And we talked about on the last time we were together on your show, talked about it in Alex Jones earlier this week, and it's received a lot of interest.
00:09:37.240 This information has been critical in understanding, for me, understanding that stealing, the theft of our elections is just, it's just one object, it's one spoke, and the hub and the wheel of a larger system to capture our government.
00:09:53.160 I authored an article called the Council, and hit the high points of that organization, and most critically, I think we called out their names and photos to identify who the real enemies of our nation are, and who we're facing, and it's an insider threat.
00:10:11.280 And I can't see the screen right now, but I'm hoping that you can put up the photos, because I really think that's critical.
00:10:17.680 And if you look at this photo right here, this is the pinnacle of the Council, and I'm going to name them by name, U.S. Inspector General Michael Horowitz, FBI Director Christopher Wray, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, Director of the Office of Professional Responsibility called the OPR, Jeffrey Ragsdale,
00:10:38.500 the Chief of the Chief of the Public Integrity Sector, which is called the PIN, which his name is Corey Edmondson, Deputy U.S. Attorney General Lisa Monaco, First Principal Deputy U.S. Attorney General Marshall Miller.
00:10:53.060 That's the pinnacle of the Council, which Tim, Colonel Schindler will describe earlier.
00:10:59.400 If you could bring up the next screen, I'd appreciate it, because there's an emeritus group, and these are actually active, still active members of the Council,
00:11:08.320 and there's an emeritus, and I think that some of the names may be more familiar to your audience.
00:11:13.340 So we have former U.S. Attorney William Barr, who was a primary actor in the step of the 2020 election and who's a traitor to our country.
00:11:22.400 We have former U.S. Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, former Deputy U.S. Attorney General Richard Donahue, former FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI Director Robert Mueller,
00:11:33.460 former FBI Director James Comey, and former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, and right now a special counsel for the CIGI, Jack Smith,
00:11:46.460 who has been involved, deeply involved in the indictments of President Trump and others who have aligned themselves against the Council.
00:11:53.300 So it was a key reason, for me, the key reason for printing that article and publishing it, and I really appreciate, Roger, that you republished it.
00:12:05.080 It's got a tremendous amount of interest.
00:12:08.580 What we've learned, Leah, myself, these other patriots, and quite frankly, through the benefit of Colonel Schindler,
00:12:16.060 is that if this was a 24-hour clock and a fight for our country, we're in the last three minutes.
00:12:24.040 That was derailed by President Trump in 2016, and thank God for that.
00:12:28.360 It's given us some time to regroup and address and remedy this.
00:12:34.740 And at this point, I'd like to turn it over to Colonel Schindler, but one of the things that commonly,
00:12:39.840 you know, the media pundits and the people who denigrate learned people
00:12:46.840 who bring these exposed fraud to the people who are denigrated in the press,
00:12:53.220 I just want to give you a quick bio for Colonel Schindler.
00:12:57.000 He not only was my classmate and holds a BS from the U.S. Naval Academy,
00:13:00.820 but he has a master's in security studies from Georgetown,
00:13:04.440 a master's in science from the National Defense University,
00:13:07.200 a master's of science from the U.S. Naval War College.
00:13:11.140 He holds a doctorate of social engineering from the University of Southern California.
00:13:16.040 He's a military fellow of the Near East South Asia Center for Strategic Studies,
00:13:21.720 and he was a senior executive fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School.
00:13:27.220 So he was an academic, we thought we were academic underachievers at the Naval Academy,
00:13:32.180 but he went on to prove me wrong, and we've been friends for life.
00:13:37.200 But he also, Colonel Schindler, is a colonel in the U.S. Marine Corps.
00:13:41.480 He's got extensive operational experience and has served in conflicts across the globe.
00:13:46.880 His military service included multiple tours in the Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan,
00:13:53.100 and the Pentagon inside the continental United States.
00:13:57.880 We both continuously served our nation as commissioned military officers in foreign wars and peace for the last 40 years.
00:14:08.360 And we're not going to sit idly by where our nation is taken over.
00:14:14.060 And I like Timothy's here today, and I'm so glad he could join us.
00:14:18.200 He's a pretty busy guy.
00:14:19.560 And I was really happy he could join us to give us more information on the council,
00:14:23.980 which I think people are really thirsting for.
00:14:26.300 So with that, I gave my intro, and I really appreciate the time, Roger, today to bring this to light to the public.
00:14:33.420 Yeah, I just want to be very clear.
00:14:36.040 You are classmates at the U.S. Naval Academy.
00:14:38.600 And, of course, Tim, Dr. Tim, is a proud veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps.
00:14:45.580 I mean, I could have spent a lot of time on your resume, but let's do this because others will question what you say.
00:14:54.860 Each one of you, if you would, just give them some brief on your background.
00:15:00.460 Greg came to my attention also through his great book, Parallel Election.
00:15:04.500 We'll talk about that in a minute.
00:15:05.940 But I want these people to understand that these are not just two yokels that I dug up.
00:15:12.860 I want them to understand who you are, because what you're telling us today is extraordinary.
00:15:18.500 And I think it's what many Americans want to know, because it has great bearing on our future, on the upcoming elections.
00:15:25.560 First, the story of this assassination, whether there'll be another one, and then the upcoming election.
00:15:32.400 So let's go to Tim.
00:15:34.560 Tim, lay out for people, if you will, you know, your background in the nutshell, and then walk us through what you have learned.
00:15:44.660 Hey, Roger, thank you for taking the time to have us come and see you.
00:15:50.180 Like Greg said, we are lifelong friends, and we both went through the crucible of the Naval Academy.
00:15:57.800 And the understanding then was that public service is indeed the heart of America, and that the calling was for life.
00:16:08.240 And that means that we would have to do whatever we had to do to not only protect our way of life overseas, but to ensure that the Americans, in which we were willing to sacrifice our lives, received all of the benefits for which this nation stands.
00:16:27.280 And when that doesn't occur, we need to understand why I was at the Department of Defense, and I was in the Inspector General's office, and I recognized that something was very, very wrong.
00:16:41.800 It was in late 2016, and this was before the election, and listening to the comments, listening to the words, listening to what people were saying was deeply, deeply disturbing for me.
00:16:55.980 I had just come from Afghanistan, where I had been working in the U.S. Embassy, and I was implementing the actual stabilization plan that I helped write when I was at the International Security Assistance Force there in Kabul.
00:17:10.540 Our greatest concern was that what we were seeing wasn't right.
00:17:16.380 There was something wrong.
00:17:17.540 I had seen how they had attacked General Flynn, a man that I personally knew, a man I had personally worked with, and I didn't understand why people were speaking in such a demeaning manner for a man who simply did his duty, he did his job.
00:17:38.340 And then I started thinking about this, and I talked with other folks, and they told us, you realize that there is a fundamental transformation occurring.
00:17:48.120 Well, immediately upon the election occurring, everything changed.
00:17:54.080 The actual plans that had been put in place for the progressive transformation of the nation had been interrupted.
00:18:02.240 They had been interrupted by an interloper, an individual that did not come from the system.
00:18:09.060 And because they were not from the system, they were behind schedule.
00:18:15.540 It was intuitively obvious that they were behind schedule.
00:18:18.800 And having the benefit of being able to go to a lot of schools and waste a lot of highlighters and all that, I kind of understood this because I'd spent a lot of time overseas working for our government, of course.
00:18:30.660 And Greg reached out, and I reached out to Greg, and I realized that Greg did not fully appreciate the nature and the character of the threat.
00:18:43.320 He was standing tall in the arena, and while he did that, he was being assaulted on all sides.
00:18:51.960 He was getting no assistance from the U.S. Attorney.
00:18:54.660 He was getting no assistance from the Attorney General.
00:18:57.680 He was getting no assistance from the Department of Justice.
00:19:00.620 And he was trying to understand what was it that he needed to do to raise the public consciousness that there was a serious problem here.
00:19:12.480 And it affected the very things that he had fought for, the very things that he was willing to sacrifice his life for, and that needed to be addressed.
00:19:21.560 And so we sat down, we have a group of fairly learned men, and they explained, and they said, Tim, you need to explain to Greg, as well as to a lot of other folks, what is really occurring?
00:19:37.580 What are they seeing, and why don't they understand it?
00:19:40.700 So I want to talk about that really quickly.
00:19:43.960 So I'm going to do it almost in parable to help people understand that this is not a dramatic issue.
00:19:51.300 It's not some sort of, you know, unidentified threat.
00:19:56.180 This is simply two different ideological positions slamming against each other.
00:20:03.260 You have their traditional American capitalist system, which is fighting against another system, a communist-based system.
00:20:13.960 That believes that all people need to fall under the yoke of the learned class.
00:20:20.780 And that would be okay, except it's not the American system.
00:20:25.880 So to jump right in, I want to help you understand here.
00:20:30.140 In early June 1962, that's right, 1962, hundreds of college students, they gathered, and these students belonged to an organization called the Students for a Democratic Society,
00:20:43.320 the SDS, and they gathered at the United Auto Workers retreat in Port Huron, New York.
00:20:49.640 And this was going to be the very first council meeting.
00:20:55.260 The location and the funding had actually been provided by the fourth United Auto Workers president, Walter Ruther.
00:21:01.340 And Walter Ruther, of course, was a member of the Socialist Party of America, and he had a strong belief that the old left focus on labor unions and class struggle needed to give way to meet the challenging new needs of American socialists.
00:21:18.100 And on 15 June 1962, the university students published the New Left's Port Huron Statement.
00:21:27.240 And what was important about that is it was the signal.
00:21:30.100 It was the signal away from the old left's focus on violent overthrow of the government, which had been based upon an 1848 socioeconomic political theory that had come from Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels,
00:21:43.740 and it had been tried in many other countries, and the baseline complaint or theory was that capitalism was going to bring about its own destruction by unifying the working class to start a violent revolution.
00:21:58.440 So in a nutshell, you had the American old left evolving into the new left with a new focus on cultural Marxism, which we refer to as social justice, abortion, capital punishment, civil rights, environmentalism, feminism, gay rights, gender roles, and immigration.
00:22:20.520 These became the supplanted new left's concern.
00:22:25.800 But what was also important was that the new left rejected violent overthrow of the government in favor of what was called progressive social reconstruction.
00:22:36.360 And this favors a slow and methodical institutional takeover.
00:22:41.880 And you start with the American university system.
00:22:44.880 This process is known as the slow march through the institutions.
00:22:50.380 Or if you are an American Marxist, the cockroach theory, infestation and procreation.
00:22:59.540 So essentially, in a nutshell, the old left American Marxist campaign, it spanned 54 years, from 1908 to 1962.
00:23:10.300 And it was to prepare the American people for the Marxist class struggle and unionization.
00:23:15.440 And then the new left American Marxist campaign actually started on 15 June 1962 with a publication of the Port Huron Statement.
00:23:25.380 And it continues today.
00:23:26.380 And they utilize progressive social reconstructions, long march through the institutions.
00:23:34.120 And the whole point is to drive a new class of political bureaucrat into every agency, bureau, commission, and board within the executive branch, the legislative branch.
00:23:48.680 And now, to finish the final capture, which will be the judicial branch of government.
00:23:55.320 And that is represented right now today by Senate Bill 349, which is sitting in the United States Senate.
00:24:04.240 On September 1st, 1961, the old left's American Lenin, Walter Z. Foster, he died.
00:24:14.020 And he was interred into the Kremlin wall necropolis after a state funeral that was led by the premier of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev.
00:24:25.460 And so now the remains of America's Lenin, Walter Z. Foster, rest with the other three old left American Marxists who have been honored.
00:24:37.020 And that, of course, as every single American Marxist knows, is William Dudley Haywood, John Silas Reed, and Charles Emel C.E. Rufenberg.
00:24:48.760 These are the very people that all American Marxists know, just like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln.
00:24:58.100 What is also important for us to understand is that there is a plan, there is a program, and it is being done.
00:25:06.680 In 1954, a man by the name of Marxist G. Raskin studied at the University of Chicago under Columbia professor Guy Ruxford Tugwell, who is an expert on centralized planning.
00:25:20.400 And he was part of the Progressive Social Reconstruction.
00:25:26.040 He was also one of the three Columbia University professors that made up President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Progressive Social New Deal Brain Trust.
00:25:37.580 In 1958, Marcus Raskin became the legal counsel to President FDR's son, Congressman James Roosevelt, and he represented California's 26th District.
00:25:50.400 Raskin actually ran James Roosevelt's President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's son, his liberal project.
00:25:59.820 And in there, he was able to unite two of his father's original three members of the Brain Trust.
00:26:06.080 Franklin Delano Roosevelt's expert on centralized governmental planning, Guy Ruxford Tugwell, and FDR's expert on centralized banking, James Warburg.
00:26:17.920 In 1963, Marcus Raskin left Congress, and he established the Institute of Policy Studies in Washington, D.C., and his job was to cultivate the legislative branch of government via progressive social reconstructions, long march through the institutions.
00:26:39.480 In 1977, Marcus Raskin prepared the federal budget and social reconstruction, and it had been written in preparation of the 95th Congressional Legislative Support to the new president, James Earl Carter,
00:26:55.760 who was going to fundamentally transform the government via reorganizational plans of the government one, two, three, and four.
00:27:07.180 In that, he created a new class of inspectors general, political bureaucrats, given civil service lifetime appointment, responsible for deciding if and when to investigate and audit over all of the government's people, programs, and operations.
00:27:28.960 Utilizing the progressive social reconstruction long march through the institutions, the new class inspectors general are embedded in every agency, bureau, commission, throughout the executive and the legislative branch.
00:27:46.220 And currently, today, the United States Senate will vote on bringing the new class inspector general, political bureaucrats into the judicial branch for complete governmental capture.
00:28:00.880 That is the history of the old left, American Marxist transition into the new left, American Marxist.
00:28:12.040 Every single thing that we're seeing is planned, and what people are having a little bit of a challenge understanding is that the creation of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency is literally called the Council.
00:28:27.520 And to be in the Council, and to be in the Council means that you are protected.
00:28:32.640 You are protected from investigation.
00:28:35.400 You are protected from audit.
00:28:37.380 And you decide who and what will be and will not be tolerated in the new class.
00:28:48.600 It's very interesting, Tim, that you bring up Marcus Raskin, a leftist socialist of old.
00:28:56.240 And, of course, he is the father of Jamie Raskin.
00:28:59.480 Now, Jamie Raskin made a statement recently in which he essentially said that even if Trump won, that the Congress would simply defy his election based on some imagined violation of Amendment 4, Section 3 of the Constitution,
00:29:18.680 a crime for which no federal court has found Donald Trump guilty.
00:29:23.480 And he basically says that Trump supporters will have to be reined in.
00:29:29.620 I'm not sure what that means.
00:29:31.720 But if I said that, that, no, we shouldn't honor the outcome of a valid election, the FBI would be at my front door again tomorrow.
00:29:42.600 Then I noticed that somebody played me the audio of Joe Biden when he's asked by, I think it's Lester Holt on NBC, whether he expected the peaceful transfer of power.
00:29:59.300 And he said, if Trump wins, no, that's what he said.
00:30:04.740 And then he corrected himself.
00:30:06.180 No, if he loses, I don't I don't I don't expect the peaceful transfer of power.
00:30:14.900 In other words, like many Alzheimer's patients, he blurted out the truth first.
00:30:20.740 So, Greg, I'm going to go to you.
00:30:22.540 It seems to me we can come back in a minute.
00:30:26.620 I've got to do a commercial break.
00:30:28.320 But when we come back, I want to address two things.
00:30:31.920 The council had to have approved the attempted assassination on Trump.
00:30:37.540 And very clearly, they have a plan for this election.
00:30:41.380 It's a lot to cover.
00:30:42.620 We'll be right back.
00:30:43.960 Folks, I don't know about you, but I'm putting in long hours.
00:30:48.100 First of all, doing a daily show here at the Stone Zone, which you can see by going to rumble.com slash Roger Stone and following us there, writing and preparing my weekly 77 WABC New York radio show, which is on from 3 to 6 p.m. Eastern every Sunday afternoon, writing a long piece for my sub stack,
00:31:12.780 which you can find on the sub stack, which you can find on the sub stack website.
00:31:16.920 It's called The Stone Cold Truth, and trying to exercise, read some, keep up with correspondence and eat right.
00:31:26.480 Well, I'm working on two books, one on the Kennedy, pardon me, the attempted Reagan assassination, the other upon the experience I had being targeted by the jackbooted thugs in the federal government acting on American, on political agenda rather than any actual prosecution of crime.
00:31:49.560 Because, well, as you know, Roger Stone did nothing wrong.
00:31:53.080 So, look, it's very hard to exercise and eat right, and I've always been interested, you know, in alternative medicine and so on.
00:32:02.600 So, I really realized that eating on the fly wasn't getting me the nutrients I should have, and my energy was, well, I was kind of burning the candle on both ends.
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00:33:35.680 I apologize, gentlemen, but we have to keep the lights on.
00:33:40.460 Let's go to Commander Greg Stenstrom.
00:33:44.460 I posed the question.
00:33:47.040 The council—let's take the short question first.
00:33:50.960 The council would have had to approve what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, no?
00:33:55.900 Well, they either had to approve it, or they're most certainly hiding it.
00:34:01.640 And I think that former Secret Service Director Cheadle and the Department of Homeland Security, Mayorkas, and also Christopher Wray's testimony for Congress,
00:34:14.820 their insolence there certainly indicates that something is rotten in Denmark.
00:34:20.060 And I do think they're very implicated in this.
00:34:23.920 And, you know, Tim, the history of this council and what we told in the article was that one of the things that's most curious to me is that they always telegraph and foretell their intentions.
00:34:43.700 Always.
00:34:44.300 I don't know if it's karma, some supernatural need or arrogance, narcissism, but they love to tell us what they're going to do.
00:34:54.660 And I know, Roger, you and others forecasted we could see these things happening, and the assassination attempt on Trump, as shocking as it was, and it was shocking to see it unfold,
00:35:11.660 it was still something that we expected because they foretold it.
00:35:15.460 And if we're looking at this thing now, they've removed Joe Biden, they're installing Harris and Walsh, whatever potato head might, you know, take their place before the elections, we don't know.
00:35:28.800 But they've been telling what they're going to do.
00:35:31.360 They went after President Trump.
00:35:34.040 A lot of people don't know that they've already written the Electoral College Improvement Act of 2022.
00:35:40.540 The Electoral College Improvement Act of 2022.
00:35:45.620 I'm surprised by how many people don't know about that, but I urge you to read it.
00:35:50.520 But when you read that and you listen to the words that they say, they're foretelling that they're going to steal the election on November 6th.
00:35:58.660 They're going to simply announce that Harris or whoever won.
00:36:04.060 It's going to be a little different this time, but some of the things that they're announcing would be they're going to have a cyber attack.
00:36:10.880 And that no connection, you know, the Internet's going to go down and there'll be a massive cyber attack targeting our election machines.
00:36:17.980 And what's curious about that is federal and state law says that election machines cannot be connected to the Internet during the elections.
00:36:26.300 So when they say we're going to have a cyber attack that's going to affect the elections, my response as a cybersecurity expert myself is to say, well, how how's that going to occur?
00:36:36.880 They're they're already talking about MPOCs, civil unrest, you know, they're they're creating AI crowds on Harris's videos, you know, showing that tens of thousands of people are showing up.
00:36:50.080 I found a curious fact check dot org, which is not a fact check organization at all, but actually a political organization and an NGO operating out of UPenn that pays Joe Biden as their chairman.
00:37:04.500 And when you look at them, when you look at them, they said, well, what's been debunked?
00:37:08.440 This is not AI. And they showed a picture right on their page, fact check dot org.
00:37:12.940 And it showed a picture of the Air Force Two and the Harris crowd and everybody holding up their phones.
00:37:19.280 And then any they always are foiled by their hosted by their own petard.
00:37:24.700 If you look at the images on the phone, you'll see that they're all different images.
00:37:30.480 Everybody's all these phones are holding up in their own photo.
00:37:34.160 And everyone's got to if you zoom in and enhance the picture, they're all obviously AI.
00:37:40.560 So looking at what they're going to do, what we have to do is we have to prep for the fight ahead of hand ahead of time.
00:37:51.060 And with the knowledge that they're going to steal the election again, what we need to do and prepare our country for is that the election isn't over on the November 5th or 6th.
00:38:02.820 OK, they may have the media, but we have the facts and we have until December 10th to certify the election.
00:38:09.620 And by going to the legislatures and going to, you know, giving the evidence and fraud this time to the legislatures and the courts so they can act, then I think we'll be able to make a difference.
00:38:22.240 But one of the things that I, you know, in Tim and my conversations, you know, Tim acquainted me with a term called the nomenclature and I had to look it up.
00:38:32.880 You know, he explained what it was, but the nomenclature was normally used with the Soviet Union.
00:38:38.120 But it gave me a real good picture.
00:38:41.160 And I wrote in the article about these people look at us as livestock and they truly look at us as livestock.
00:38:49.000 One second. I'm sorry.
00:38:50.480 They look at us as livestock and they look at us as carbon units.
00:38:54.880 And I think, you know, what I'd like you to do is, you know, I hope we have the time here for Tim to go into the nomenclature and and do a breakout of, you know, what the council is.
00:39:07.000 And although it may be academic, I think it's important for the people to know what we're dealing with here with the nomenclature, with the council and how they operate.
00:39:16.380 And thank you.
00:39:18.900 I looked up the link.
00:39:22.460 I've always heard this pronounced nomenclature.
00:39:25.060 So maybe that's why I was confused.
00:39:27.620 But I think it's important to recognize that that we are now at the crucible.
00:39:35.760 We're in the final hours of what really could be our last election.
00:39:40.800 We're in the middle of a gigantic psyop in which they're using their control of mass media and manipulation on the Internet to create the false impression that that Kamala Harris is wildly popular, that she is surging.
00:39:58.700 She's gaining dramatically in the polls.
00:40:00.520 People love her, that that she's dynamic and exciting and historic without any focus, of course, on substance, without giving her any blame.
00:40:11.900 Oh, no, she no, no.
00:40:12.780 She wasn't the she wasn't the border czar.
00:40:14.980 No, no, you're you're you're mistaken.
00:40:16.880 No, we're we're not mistaken.
00:40:19.480 And now she's pledged that if elected she'll hire hundreds more border patrol agents and she'll crack down and secure our border.
00:40:28.140 What has she been doing for three years as Joe Biden's full partner, as they continue to tell us?
00:40:36.180 So this is a boomerang in which they create a false impression.
00:40:40.160 They go into the polling.
00:40:42.560 Now, if you look at The New York Times Siena College poll, but you examine the cross tabs in the entire sample, you will see that they have, I believe, purposely over sampled Democrats.
00:40:55.900 That's to show her pulling ahead.
00:40:58.840 This then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:41:01.800 Their headline.
00:41:03.600 Kamala Harris pulls ahead of Trump in swing states.
00:41:07.380 Not in any credible poll I've seen.
00:41:10.100 In some polls that I, for methodological reasons, don't find credible.
00:41:14.500 But it's all it's part of the boomlet.
00:41:17.060 Meanwhile, they would just like Joe Biden to go away because his presence only reminds you that they took him out in a bloodless coup.
00:41:26.520 In the six hours between him saying on a Saturday, I'm not getting out under any circumstances, and they're releasing this letter on Sunday afternoon.
00:41:37.940 What transpired in that six hours is New York Times bestselling author and, pardon me, New York Times Pulitzer Prize winning author Seymour Hersh, correct, when he reports that Barack Obama threatened Joe with removal under the 25th Amendment unless he rolled over on the question of his reelection?
00:41:59.940 Nancy Pelosi seems to virtually boast about being in on it.
00:42:04.500 So this is very democratic for people who keep telling us they love democracy.
00:42:10.880 This is all about preserving democracy.
00:42:13.100 There's nothing whatsoever democratic in the way in which they're trying to anoint Kamala Harris, whose capabilities are extremely questionable based on what we know about her record as president of the United States.
00:42:28.400 It's in this radical, progressive, crazy man, who's clearly lied about his military service, who indeed is guilty of stolen valor as vice president.
00:42:40.360 That's that's where that's where the council has gotten us.
00:42:43.760 All right, Tim.
00:42:44.400 But why don't you pick it up there?
00:42:46.720 Well, thanks, Roger.
00:42:47.960 I reminded of something a very bright general officer told me one time and I worked with him in Afghanistan and it was General Flynn and General Flynn said this.
00:43:02.000 He said that there are two kinds of people.
00:43:06.020 He goes, there are people who try to figure out why and how things work.
00:43:10.120 And then there are people who just try to figure out how to get out of stuff and that if you're trying to build something, you have to figure out what it takes to make it work.
00:43:20.980 But if you're trying to tear something down, all you have to do is figure out how to make it work for you.
00:43:26.760 So when you think about the question of, well, who's actually doing it?
00:43:32.620 It's kind of a subtle question because what you're really looking at is this.
00:43:36.920 It's not what you do.
00:43:40.280 It's what somebody can investigate.
00:43:44.660 Someone can audit.
00:43:46.460 Somebody can actually look at what you're doing, expose it, especially if you're a public servant.
00:43:55.020 Well, if I am assured that the nomenclatura, the new class of inspector general political bureaucrat,
00:44:03.140 if they have a lifetime appointment, that's like a federal judge, except they have no appellate overview.
00:44:09.920 And they are responsible for deciding if and when an investigation or an audit will actually occur.
00:44:18.800 So if I'm confident that I will never be audited, I'll never be investigated, I guess I can pretty much do what I like.
00:44:30.000 And this is the whole purpose for creating the nomenclatura, because it picks the winners and losers.
00:44:38.380 And naturally, all of these people are members.
00:44:41.540 And when you add and look at this from the holistic perspective, yes, it isn't a question of who's doing what.
00:44:51.280 It's a question of, is there any oversight?
00:44:54.020 And of course, we all understand that investigation is that fundamental process.
00:45:01.420 Now, I like to take a look at this as a competition, because that's exactly what it is.
00:45:06.800 In 1977, Marcus Raskin prepared the federal budget and social reconstruction.
00:45:12.840 It was a part of the effort that was going to support President Jimmy Carter's fundamental transformation of government.
00:45:20.400 People just don't know that.
00:45:21.600 And he came out with Reorganizational Plans 1 and 4.
00:45:25.540 It created the modern-day American nomenclatura.
00:45:30.520 If it weren't for that, we wouldn't be where we are today.
00:45:34.220 So we started with putting each member into each branch, each commission, each bureau.
00:45:40.840 And then we slowly, slowly, as we marched through the institutions, placed our key actors.
00:45:47.120 Those would be the individuals who would ensure what would and would not be reviewed.
00:45:52.740 So when people wonder why certain people are punished and others are not, it's simply because they're not a member of the nomenclatura and they're not a member of the new left.
00:46:02.060 And I think this is really important because everybody is focusing on how to get out of things.
00:46:10.780 Our focus is to help people understand exactly what's occurring.
00:46:15.720 If they like it, well, congratulations to you.
00:46:19.600 But if you don't like it and you want to have a government that is run by unelected bureaucrats who will determine how you will function, what you will and will not do, then we have a fundamental problem.
00:46:34.280 And I'm reminded, I had the opportunity to literally stand in the very room where one of the most brilliant founding fathers we ever had actually sat down, scratched his head and said, I'm going to come up with a constitution.
00:46:50.540 And at the same time he was coming up with the constitution, he said, I'm going to come up with a bill of rights.
00:46:56.200 So while I built the governance construct, he was actually worried about ensuring that the people's rights were always going to be treasured.
00:47:08.720 And individual rights have nothing to do with the nomenclatura.
00:47:13.080 This is all about big government.
00:47:15.180 This is all about destroying the way we see the government.
00:47:20.420 This is vitally important for us, vitally important.
00:47:23.800 All we're trying to do is help people understand, if you wish to have unconstitutionally elected bureaucrats run your government, you're well on your way.
00:47:35.360 Now, if you don't, but we've seen some brilliant moves, strategic moves.
00:47:41.060 The Supreme Court came out with the Chevron Doctrine.
00:47:45.020 Everybody was shocked.
00:47:47.040 For 40 years, the Supreme Court did not challenge the administrative state.
00:47:52.480 The administrative state has had its wings clipped.
00:47:56.520 And they were clear, the Supreme Court justices of the United States were clear, we interpret law.
00:48:03.560 You don't make law in the administrative state.
00:48:07.200 So now the question is, will the Supreme Court do the same for the legislative branch of government?
00:48:14.080 And say to them, you can't create councils as independent entities and stuff them into the executive branch and give them control over the legislative branch, and now you're trying to poach the judicial branch.
00:48:31.120 No, the administrative state will have to be reined in as they should be, and so will the legislative branch.
00:48:38.720 And we are looking forward to this.
00:48:41.400 What Trump represents is one thing and one thing only.
00:48:46.760 He upset the plan.
00:48:49.480 He set the plan back by more than four years.
00:48:53.920 We know this for a fact, because it had been all laid out.
00:48:57.380 And so now people are looking at the fact that when President Trump comes back into power, he is going to restore the balance with some very learned legislators and some very learned Supreme Court justices to rebalance America.
00:49:16.160 It will not be run by unelected bureaucrats.
00:49:19.920 There will not be a nomenclatura established in the United States.
00:49:24.160 And the new left's desires are inconsistent with the American form of government.
00:49:31.020 And that has to be played out.
00:49:34.580 Roger, I hope that answers the question.
00:49:36.200 It's very important, I think, that Americans know the history of what has been a long march to basically extinguish our constitutional republic.
00:49:49.000 And it's interesting the way they use disinformation.
00:49:51.680 Greg pointed out that clearly AI is being used to create these images that show vast crowds welcoming and cheering for Kamala Harris.
00:50:03.020 And then, of course, the fact checkers say, no, that's crazy.
00:50:07.080 Trump is accused of making that up like, no, he's the one who's nuts.
00:50:11.540 But the most cursory investigation of the images in question can demonstrate some people have three eyes, others have multiple hands.
00:50:20.660 These are clearly created, although they make your saying that they call you the conspiracy theorist.
00:50:27.020 They're doing it to Donald Trump, even as we speak.
00:50:30.200 I think it's cited, I think it was in Vanity Fair, as one of the examples of Trump's losing touch with reality, melting down.
00:50:38.940 No, actually, I think he's absolutely right.
00:50:43.040 But people need to understand, Greg is exactly right.
00:50:47.720 I was criticized when I said this.
00:50:49.500 In the post-election period, we have to be prepared to use every legal and technical rule within the court and legislative system, all within the law, to not only identify but document the fraud in question.
00:51:05.900 One of the great failures, I think, and I was not involved post-election in 2020, is some people went out and made claims that they couldn't substantiate on the basis of appearances or statistics without having actually documented their claim.
00:51:22.240 And that, I think, unfortunately, is used to discredit any citizen, any expert who goes out and chooses to examine the election results for anomalies or irregularities or proof of fraud.
00:51:38.540 So, this time, when I said this in an illegally recorded, certidious tape, I actually had the audacity to say Republicans should use every legal and technical tool necessary to ensure that we have honest elections, honest elections.
00:51:55.560 I was castigated for that when I said that you have to be able to reach a judge at night.
00:52:04.980 Every federal circuit designates a duty judge after hours so that any lawyer who has to file an emergency motion, such as one pertaining to the elections and the conduct of the counting, can reach a judge.
00:52:21.320 Headline.
00:52:22.000 Stone implies Trump has judges in his pocket.
00:52:26.440 I mean, these people are truly insane.
00:52:29.100 So, Greg, you're right.
00:52:30.240 We have to be prepared.
00:52:32.100 We have to be prepared on every basis.
00:52:35.340 We are going to see one of the greatest voter identification and turnout operations I think the country's ever seen.
00:52:41.840 This is something the Trump campaign and the party are well organized to do.
00:52:47.540 Beyond that, yes, I think you can assume, since they know that Donald Trump is an existential threat to their entire plan to run the country via these bureaucrats and puppets, they will do everything necessary to hold on to power.
00:53:05.840 And, yes, I've experienced it, as has General Flynn.
00:53:08.840 They will use the power of government to punish you if you attempt to stand up to them.
00:53:14.140 These gentlemen will act within the law to try to preserve our Constitution.
00:53:20.100 So I'm proud to have both of these gentlemen with us.
00:53:23.880 It's amazing.
00:53:25.880 It's hard to jam everything I have learned here and things that I'm shocked about.
00:53:31.140 But, in essence, what they've told you is there is a legal structure, a legal authority within government in which this small clique is actually making decisions.
00:53:41.140 Not the people you elected president, not the people in Congress, but this is who's deciding for America.
00:53:47.580 It's shocking, and they're involved in every element of our lives and every element of our future.
00:53:55.160 So I would ask you, if you would please, Greg has a great website.
00:54:01.500 He is the designer, operator, and genius behind Patriot.Online.
00:54:07.860 Did I get that right?
00:54:08.740 Patriot.Online.
00:54:10.060 There it is, which I strongly urge you to check out.
00:54:15.120 You can also get his great book, The Parallel Election, on Amazon.
00:54:21.080 That is a great book.
00:54:23.700 One of the first things I did when I was doing my own due diligence on Greg.
00:54:28.760 As I said, one of his fellow classmates at the Naval Academy spoke very highly of him.
00:54:36.140 I read his book, and we became good friends.
00:54:39.440 And comrades.
00:54:40.440 So please check that out as well.
00:54:43.920 It is going to be another tumultuous day in American politics.
00:54:48.420 Trump gave what was one of his best speeches ever in North Carolina, I think showing tight discipline to hammer Kamala Harris for her record as part of the Biden-Harris administration.
00:55:03.120 And this chameleon act in which now she wants to not tax tips, a Trump idea.
00:55:10.600 Soon she'll be in favor of not taxing Social Security, which Trump has already proposed.
00:55:16.120 And she's now claiming, of course, I'll seal the border.
00:55:19.860 Where has she been for three and a half years?
00:55:22.240 In any event, I also need to say that Field of Greens, if you go to fieldofgreens.com, you get 15% off and free shipping when you use promo code STONE.
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00:55:37.940 All right, we are out of time.
00:55:40.380 Gentlemen, I want to thank both of you for being back in the Stone Zone.
00:55:43.820 I want to thank you for your service.
00:55:45.620 I honor you for your service to our country, which continues to this day.
00:55:52.240 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today on the Stone Zone.
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00:56:30.740 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
00:56:39.500 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
00:56:41.960 Roger Stone.
00:56:43.020 Where's Roger Stone?
00:56:44.120 Here we go.
00:56:56.380 Here we go.
00:57:02.820 You're right.
00:57:05.020 You