The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:14.080 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:18.380 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:24.000 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:28.000 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:35.000 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:40.360 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:48.340 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and I'm back myself in The Stone Zone.

00:00:54.480 I was out yesterday with a bout of laryngitis.

00:00:59.120 Too much hooting and hollering over the weekend, I guess.

00:01:02.960 But I'm glad to be back in the saddle.

00:01:05.920 Joining me, of course, is my usual bombastic co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief at Slingshot.News.

00:01:15.900 Troy, welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:01:18.560 Well, Roger, how did you know they call me Mr. Bombastic?

00:01:21.160 That should be your music.

00:01:25.060 Let's get him his own entry music.

00:01:28.060 He can be Mr. Bombastic.

00:01:29.800 Speaking of Bombastic, because I want to get right to it,

00:01:33.100 joining us today is the senior editor at Human Events, Jack Posobiec.

00:01:39.640 Human Events, first of all, is one of the most important and influential media outlets

00:01:45.600 in the history of the conservative movement.

00:01:48.120 It was seminal in the launch of Barry Goldwater's presidential campaign.

00:01:53.860 It protected the interests of movement conservatives in Washington, D.C.,

00:01:59.200 was equally seminal in the rise and election of Ronald Reagan as president.

00:02:05.300 Over time, Human Events modernized to the Internet,

00:02:09.640 where they were integral in the election of Donald Trump

00:02:13.820 and the fights we are waged in today.

00:02:17.260 And helming that operation, among other great journalists,

00:02:23.000 is my good friend Jack Posobiec.

00:02:25.440 Jack, welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:02:28.560 Roger, always an honor to be here.

00:02:30.820 You know, Jack, when things happen around the world,

00:02:33.400 such as, oh, I don't know, the death of Klaus Schwab

00:02:37.780 or the blowing up of the helicopter carrying the president of Iran,

00:02:43.660 the guys who work for me, the guys who love Angelo, say, get the spook.

00:02:49.120 We need to get the spook.

00:02:52.000 We're kidding, of course, about your background in naval intelligence,

00:02:55.460 but you have a unique and I think...

00:02:59.080 Recovering. Recovering spook, Roger. Recovering.

00:03:01.240 Right. Or your spook cover, one or the other.

00:03:05.920 Everyone's favorite Fed, Jack Glosobiec.

00:03:08.120 Yeah, no, you're not that at all.

00:03:11.460 No, but you served your country in the Navy,

00:03:14.280 and the Navy intelligence is quite capable.

00:03:16.580 So you served with honor.

00:03:19.140 But you do have a grasp on geopolitical issues,

00:03:22.060 and you are that kind of rare analyst who can kind of oversee

00:03:26.060 the military and geopolitical aspects of things,

00:03:31.160 but also understand their impact on American politics.

00:03:36.080 And that's why I'm glad to have you with us today.

00:03:40.480 Let's start with the story that does not shock me,

00:03:45.200 and that is Klaus Schwab.

00:03:47.980 This guy is like...

00:03:49.740 They call me a Batman villain.

00:03:51.360 He's the ultimate Batman villain.

00:03:53.920 Guy does the worst Henry Kissinger imitation you've ever heard.

00:03:58.180 He has insisted that the people of the world change their diets.

00:04:04.800 A major advocate for the eating of insect protein

00:04:08.780 as opposed to good old fashioned American grass-fed beef,

00:04:14.680 who is reportedly extremely ill

00:04:17.260 and stepping down from the global centerpiece

00:04:23.340 of the effort to change the face of the world

00:04:27.300 in their atheistic, godless, globalist, one-world image.

00:04:33.040 Josh, your thoughts.

00:04:35.360 Well, Roger, it's interesting because Klaus Schwab,

00:04:38.480 someone who a couple of years ago when I was covering Davos

00:04:42.160 for the Turning Point organization with my friend Charlie Kirk,

00:04:46.500 I'm there standing on the street outside of the World Economic Forum committee

00:04:55.020 there in Davos, in the Alps,

00:04:57.220 and we're filming, we're dressed pretty similarly to the way I am now.

00:05:01.700 I had a button-down shirt, though, at that time,

00:05:03.540 and we're doing our reports,

00:05:05.600 and all of a sudden we get surrounded,

00:05:08.680 myself and my entire crew,

00:05:10.540 surrounded by these jackbooted thugs

00:05:13.820 that are bearing badges that say World Economic Forum Police,

00:05:18.500 and they say,

00:05:19.300 come with us, sir.

00:05:21.260 And they said,

00:05:21.880 we need to go and inspect.

00:05:23.360 Now, this is Switzerland.

00:05:24.260 They don't have the First Amendment.

00:05:25.540 They don't have any of those things like we do.

00:05:27.360 They say,

00:05:27.840 we've been getting some reports of your suspicious activity,

00:05:31.160 and we'd like to see what you have on your cameras.

00:05:34.720 So they detain me.

00:05:36.440 They detain my entire crew.

00:05:38.060 They demand, at gunpoint,

00:05:40.140 guns drawn, MP5, semi-automatic rifles,

00:05:43.920 demand to see our footage and see what they're doing.

00:05:47.520 They grabbed one of my guys and said,

00:05:49.580 hey, we want,

00:05:50.140 and they're frisking us behind the side of the building,

00:05:52.220 didn't even buy us dinner first,

00:05:54.120 and they demand to take my crew into their police van

00:06:00.560 and say, we're going to go to the police van

00:06:02.880 and review the footage.

00:06:03.700 I say, excuse me, no, no, no, no, no.

00:06:05.200 You can review the footage right here.

00:06:06.900 We have nothing to hide.

00:06:08.720 More than happy to show you what we have.

00:06:10.920 So they come by, Roger,

00:06:12.900 and then eventually at this point,

00:06:14.520 the intrepid field reporter, Savannah Hernandez,

00:06:18.040 who had also been at the World Economic Forum

00:06:21.200 but covering another portion of it

00:06:23.240 on the other side of the mountain,

00:06:24.740 she rushes over with my brother,

00:06:27.320 and they start getting in their face,

00:06:29.900 filming everything, live streaming, broadcasting,

00:06:32.800 and once they realize that they have been seen

00:06:35.060 intimidating a reporter,

00:06:36.520 at that point they stand down and leave,

00:06:39.800 and by the way,

00:06:40.840 completely deny anything took place,

00:06:43.960 even though the entire thing took place on camera.

00:06:46.860 So Klaus Schwab is someone who has stood

00:06:49.300 for the rise of what I call,

00:06:51.620 or the transposition of what I would say,

00:06:53.460 the China model,

00:06:54.940 the model of governance of the CCP

00:06:56.680 here into the United States

00:06:58.900 and across the West

00:07:00.280 and Western civilization writ large.

00:07:01.800 When I lived in Shanghai in 2006

00:07:04.440 and then back again in 07 and 08,

00:07:06.680 I saw how the China model was building,

00:07:09.860 and Xi Jinping,

00:07:10.540 who was the city party secretary at the time,

00:07:13.060 was using this model to cut across things

00:07:15.880 that we would have in the United States,

00:07:17.260 like basic things like property rights

00:07:19.320 and civil liberties

00:07:20.220 to install their form of global technocratic governance.

00:07:24.040 And this is the same thing

00:07:25.440 that Klaus Schwab and his pronies

00:07:26.960 have come to the United States to push.

00:07:29.280 Of course,

00:07:29.640 the newest iteration of which

00:07:31.120 also includes something called transhumanism.

00:07:34.980 This is the melding of human and cybernetic forms

00:07:39.500 and something that they're completely obsessed with.

00:07:42.680 And so, of course,

00:07:43.380 I wonder if Klaus Schwab has,

00:07:46.340 after getting sick off of his steady diet

00:07:48.620 of synthetic beef and insectoids,

00:07:51.140 is now going to be uploading his consciousness to the cloud.

00:07:54.560 I wish him well.

00:07:56.760 Well, unfortunately for Klaus,

00:07:58.480 he doesn't believe in God.

00:08:00.220 So there is no afterlife for him.

00:08:03.260 I would say-

00:08:03.440 Oh, there will be.

00:08:04.840 I would say that karma is at work here.

00:08:11.720 The other huge story, of course,

00:08:14.460 is the crash of a helicopter

00:08:18.460 carrying the chief of the Iranian state.

00:08:23.500 This is, the timing of this is suspicious.

00:08:26.340 The location of it is suspicious.

00:08:29.780 It's interesting.

00:08:30.420 I first heard about it early in the night,

00:08:33.380 but I heard no confirmation

00:08:34.900 that the leader was dead

00:08:37.620 until much, much later,

00:08:40.300 early that morning, actually.

00:08:42.140 So, Jack, break this down for us, if you will.

00:08:44.800 What do you think actually happened here?

00:08:47.000 And let's talk about the geopolitical impact of it.

00:08:51.620 Well, so, Roger, there's, of course,

00:08:53.100 a couple of ways that anything like this can go down.

00:08:56.060 Poland, by the way,

00:08:56.900 had a president that died in a plane crash

00:08:59.040 about 14 years ago, I believe,

00:09:02.060 and on the territory of Russia,

00:09:03.840 which is also very suspicious

00:09:05.220 and something that's never really been fully investigated.

00:09:07.960 And so whenever something like this happens,

00:09:09.900 there should be an investigation

00:09:11.520 to everything that went on here.

00:09:14.860 Now, obviously, looking at the conditions of the area

00:09:16.940 and just drawing on the military background,

00:09:19.140 there's no, no reason whatsoever,

00:09:23.880 no way that a helicopter

00:09:25.420 should have been flying in conditions

00:09:26.840 with fog cover that low in a mountainous area.

00:09:29.820 You're talking northern Iran.

00:09:31.820 This is basically the Caucasus Mountain region,

00:09:34.600 extremely mountainous region.

00:09:36.340 It is the borderlands of Azerbaijan, Armenia,

00:09:39.620 and then to the north of that, you have Russia,

00:09:41.720 to the east is Turkey.

00:09:43.220 So extremely mountainous region,

00:09:45.000 very fraught over the years,

00:09:47.040 somewhere where the weather is truly,

00:09:49.440 coming off the Caspian Sea,

00:09:50.600 truly unpredictable at times.

00:09:51.940 And so the idea that they would take off in fog

00:09:55.400 going into those mountains,

00:09:56.600 it's ridiculous.

00:09:58.120 It's one of the craziest things I've ever heard of.

00:10:00.800 I can't believe,

00:10:02.760 and for people to understand,

00:10:05.060 a presidential flight or any presidential movement,

00:10:07.740 and Roger, as you know,

00:10:09.160 that in the United States,

00:10:10.300 one of the first things you understand

00:10:11.940 for weeks and weeks in advance

00:10:13.820 is going over what are the weather patterns,

00:10:16.520 what are the security issues,

00:10:18.020 what are the concerns,

00:10:18.840 what could go wrong,

00:10:19.680 what are the logistics.

00:10:20.420 Certainly when you're in a foreign area

00:10:22.200 or a remote area like this.

00:10:24.100 And so the idea that they would simply

00:10:25.500 take off in this fog,

00:10:27.300 it's ludicrous.

00:10:28.180 It's completely insane to me.

00:10:29.220 That being said,

00:10:30.060 obviously there are serious geopolitical implications.

00:10:32.700 Iran right now is a key supplier

00:10:35.320 of drone technology and drone,

00:10:37.640 these kamikaze drones to Russia.

00:10:40.540 They have also been engaged in this situation

00:10:44.100 with Hamas,

00:10:45.300 which is at war with Israel

00:10:46.640 in terms of supplying material

00:10:48.580 and funding to them,

00:10:50.020 much of which was unfrozen

00:10:51.800 by the Biden administration.

00:10:53.700 So what we're going to see here,

00:10:55.980 potentially,

00:10:57.280 is an internal power struggle

00:10:59.380 now within Iran

00:11:01.060 because this guy,

00:11:03.300 the president of Iran,

00:11:04.620 was, I'm told,

00:11:06.680 one of the key names

00:11:08.840 that was potentially in the running

00:11:11.360 to be the next Ayatollah,

00:11:13.800 the next supreme leader of Iran.

00:11:15.820 Because the current supreme leader,

00:11:17.340 Khomeini,

00:11:18.480 he's also sick.

00:11:19.500 He's got cancer.

00:11:20.440 So they're looking to replace him as well.

00:11:23.180 And so the question is,

00:11:24.600 essentially,

00:11:25.420 if this guy was the successor,

00:11:27.440 could this spark

00:11:28.880 a sort of Franz Ferdinand situation

00:11:31.060 where the successor is lost,

00:11:33.160 it is blamed on someone else,

00:11:34.680 and this turns into a system of escalation.

00:11:37.280 We know Israel most recently

00:11:39.080 took out one of the key leaders

00:11:42.460 of the IRGC,

00:11:43.760 the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps,

00:11:45.540 when he was operating in a base in Lebanon,

00:11:48.240 in a consulate in Lebanon.

00:11:50.280 He was taken out.

00:11:51.360 Earlier, of course,

00:11:52.180 everyone knows that the general

00:11:53.340 of the IRGC, Soleimani,

00:11:55.000 was taken out by Donald Trump.

00:11:57.120 And so, of course,

00:11:57.800 this is going to just kick off

00:11:59.320 another cycle of escalation

00:12:00.920 in the Middle East,

00:12:02.060 escalatory wars,

00:12:02.960 and possibly, unfortunately, Roger,

00:12:04.940 I would predict

00:12:05.760 that this leads to more aggression

00:12:08.000 from Iran

00:12:09.340 as whatever new leadership

00:12:11.440 comes into place

00:12:12.600 seeks to legitimize themselves

00:12:15.380 and seeks to establish themselves.

00:12:18.000 You're going to see more aggression,

00:12:20.380 certainly against Israel

00:12:22.220 and certainly from many of the proxy groups

00:12:25.280 that Iran funds

00:12:26.180 in order to show, essentially,

00:12:28.560 that they mean business

00:12:30.420 and that Iran is going nowhere

00:12:31.800 in the Middle East.

00:12:32.960 All right, folks,

00:12:34.140 if you are just tuning in,

00:12:35.700 this is The Stone Zone.

00:12:36.920 We're with Jack Posobiec,

00:12:38.240 the senior editor at Human Events.

00:12:40.440 We're going to go to a quick commercial break.

00:12:43.060 But when we come back,

00:12:44.240 first of all,

00:12:44.680 I want Jack to tell us

00:12:46.200 whether we can rule out foul play

00:12:48.640 in the downing of the helicopter,

00:12:50.800 which took the life of the Iranian leader.

00:12:52.920 Then I'm going to ask him

00:12:53.940 what he believes the status

00:12:55.720 of Iran's nuclear weapons development program

00:12:59.260 really is.

00:13:00.220 We'll be right back.

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00:15:03.660 Welcome back, folks.

00:15:07.100 I'm Roger Stone,

00:15:08.000 and you're back in the Stone Zone.

00:15:10.140 We're here with senior editor

00:15:12.260 and U.S. Naval Intelligence veteran,

00:15:17.680 Jack Posobiec,

00:15:18.740 who has got a new book out that's red hot.

00:15:23.100 We're going to give you a chance

00:15:23.940 to promote that, Jack,

00:15:26.120 because people are talking about it.

00:15:28.000 I have bought it,

00:15:29.800 but I have not yet cracked it.

00:15:31.140 But maybe after the weekend,

00:15:32.920 I will get to it.

00:15:36.420 Let's go right to the first question.

00:15:38.980 Foul play by,

00:15:40.760 I mean, there certainly would be enough suspects,

00:15:42.500 the Mossad,

00:15:43.400 other internal political,

00:15:45.000 Iranian political rivals,

00:15:46.840 knowing that the outgoing supreme leader is ill.

00:15:51.080 What's your take on that?

00:15:53.480 Well, Roger,

00:15:54.300 there's no question

00:15:55.100 that anytime you see a world leader killed,

00:15:57.200 you must ask the question of foul play.

00:15:59.560 There certainly needs to be an investigation here.

00:16:03.320 Disarming or disabling a helicopter

00:16:05.900 by a cybersecurity means,

00:16:08.280 this would be easy.

00:16:10.900 This would be child's play

00:16:11.800 for anyone with a serious cybersecurity program

00:16:14.100 or cyber warfare program,

00:16:15.620 I should say.

00:16:16.560 And of course,

00:16:17.220 we know that the Mossad has this.

00:16:18.940 They've been using it for years to go

00:16:20.520 after the Stuxnet virus is infamous

00:16:22.700 for taking down Iran's,

00:16:24.500 almost their entire nuclear program

00:16:26.500 over a decade ago.

00:16:28.120 And that being said,

00:16:29.480 though, as you say,

00:16:30.120 there are internal factions

00:16:31.420 within Iran itself.

00:16:32.480 There are other factions

00:16:34.040 vying for the leadership of the regime.

00:16:35.800 And then there are also

00:16:36.620 anti-regime opposition groups

00:16:38.460 such as the MEK,

00:16:40.180 which have stood against

00:16:41.420 the Iranian regime for a long time.

00:16:43.000 And they receive a lot

00:16:44.060 of external support for this.

00:16:45.760 So it's one of those situations

00:16:47.460 where there's quite a few

00:16:48.980 usual suspects on this one, Roger.

00:16:51.020 And a fog bank would,

00:16:52.980 of course,

00:16:53.540 permit a plausible deniability

00:16:57.760 for covering up anything like this

00:17:00.120 that may have taken place.

00:17:01.220 You simply send a signal

00:17:02.160 to the aircraft.

00:17:03.920 You have it shut down the engine

00:17:05.520 or the rotors,

00:17:06.480 the blade stop.

00:17:07.540 And by the end of it,

00:17:08.640 no one's able to ever determine

00:17:09.980 what took place.

00:17:11.960 You know, Jack,

00:17:13.060 since the airliner

00:17:15.000 carrying Mrs. E. Howard Hunt

00:17:17.000 to Chicago

00:17:17.580 with a briefcase

00:17:19.300 with a million dollars in cash

00:17:21.180 suspiciously crashed

00:17:22.940 and the money disappeared,

00:17:24.360 I'm prepared to believe

00:17:25.460 almost anything.

00:17:27.360 Troy, do you have a question

00:17:28.580 for Jack Posobiec?

00:17:31.440 Absolutely, Jack.

00:17:32.200 What can you tell us

00:17:32.960 about the political implications

00:17:35.280 of this worldwide,

00:17:36.240 especially as it pertains

00:17:37.240 to Iran's relationship with China?

00:17:39.760 We've been seeing them

00:17:40.480 getting closer and closer

00:17:41.600 during the Biden administration.

00:17:43.540 What can you tell us

00:17:44.160 on that front?

00:17:45.940 Well, Iran's relationship

00:17:47.040 with China

00:17:47.800 is, of course,

00:17:49.040 brokered by Russia.

00:17:52.240 And China has been playing

00:17:53.480 an interesting role

00:17:54.380 in the Middle East

00:17:55.140 where they've actually,

00:17:56.420 China,

00:17:57.340 because they have become

00:17:58.760 the world's largest

00:17:59.880 importer of oil

00:18:02.640 to fuel their growth,

00:18:04.540 China lacks any oil

00:18:06.120 or mineral resources

00:18:07.340 for liquid, natural gas,

00:18:09.760 or any of these types of research

00:18:10.720 to use oil and gas

00:18:11.720 on their own,

00:18:12.400 gas on their own

00:18:13.640 as well as natural gas

00:18:15.640 or other hydrocarbons

00:18:19.000 and able to do this.

00:18:20.220 So China,

00:18:21.280 more than anyone else,

00:18:22.480 has been able to bring

00:18:23.780 Iran and Saudi Arabia

00:18:25.780 back together,

00:18:26.540 at least from an economic

00:18:27.800 standpoint,

00:18:28.560 in alignment

00:18:29.220 against the United States,

00:18:31.600 against the wishes

00:18:32.620 of the Biden administration,

00:18:34.120 because they are now

00:18:35.680 building pipelines

00:18:36.640 across Pakistan.

00:18:37.800 They call it

00:18:38.600 the Chinese economic corridor,

00:18:40.840 where they're building it

00:18:41.880 across Pakistan

00:18:42.800 to get that gas

00:18:44.600 and get that petroleum

00:18:45.400 from Iran

00:18:46.760 and from Saudi Arabia

00:18:49.640 all the way into China.

00:18:51.020 Now,

00:18:51.460 what's a key economic point

00:18:53.740 for China is

00:18:54.760 if you look at the geography,

00:18:56.440 and this is why maps,

00:18:57.080 I always say maps

00:18:57.720 cut through the rhetoric,

00:18:59.040 what is the single spot

00:19:00.820 where Pakistan meets

00:19:03.080 the Chinese border?

00:19:04.700 This, of course,

00:19:05.320 is the province

00:19:05.980 of Xinjiang

00:19:06.940 and the province

00:19:08.040 which contains

00:19:08.820 the native population

00:19:10.460 of Uyghurs.

00:19:11.760 And because the Uyghurs

00:19:12.540 don't want to be part

00:19:13.560 of China anymore,

00:19:15.660 China,

00:19:16.540 any Chinese infrastructure

00:19:18.180 there or key strategic

00:19:19.280 infrastructure

00:19:19.840 then becomes a target

00:19:21.140 for Uyghur attacks.

00:19:22.680 So what does China do?

00:19:23.680 Because China needs

00:19:24.440 the pipelines,

00:19:25.280 China needs,

00:19:25.880 it's also mountainous,

00:19:26.780 so a lot of it is rail,

00:19:27.760 a lot of it is highway.

00:19:30.320 So China simply decides

00:19:31.700 we're going to lock

00:19:32.640 all of the Uyghurs up

00:19:33.800 and send them

00:19:34.280 to re-education camps.

00:19:36.340 This is a very Chinese-style

00:19:38.100 solution to big problems.

00:19:40.780 And so Iran,

00:19:41.500 as you say,

00:19:42.820 has built this relationship

00:19:44.040 with China.

00:19:44.580 China is of critical importance

00:19:48.380 to China,

00:19:49.040 access to oil

00:19:49.840 and access to petroleum resources.

00:19:53.040 They need this

00:19:53.680 to fuel their growth.

00:19:54.640 They need this

00:19:55.040 to fuel their one belt,

00:19:55.980 one road.

00:19:56.800 This is where Iran comes in.

00:19:58.060 This is where the Saudis come in.

00:19:59.600 And this is where Russia

00:20:01.120 has played a key role

00:20:02.160 as basically a mediator

00:20:03.440 between Iran and China.

00:20:05.840 So you really see

00:20:06.800 this alliance building up

00:20:08.500 of countries

00:20:09.480 that are willing

00:20:10.260 to do business.

00:20:11.020 Of course,

00:20:11.280 Vladimir Putin was just over

00:20:12.360 in Beijing signing

00:20:13.480 a number of deals

00:20:14.760 where, of course,

00:20:15.300 Russia, again,

00:20:16.860 of course,

00:20:17.240 a supplier of oil to China

00:20:18.540 was signing billions

00:20:20.040 and billions of dollars

00:20:21.080 over to China.

00:20:21.900 And so this idea

00:20:22.980 that the Russian sanctions

00:20:24.080 have done anything

00:20:24.900 or gone anywhere

00:20:25.560 but the Biden administration

00:20:26.580 has been a complete failure

00:20:27.680 because Xi Jinping

00:20:28.720 has been more than willing

00:20:29.800 to do this

00:20:30.400 and work with them

00:20:31.040 the same way

00:20:31.840 that he's more than willing

00:20:32.760 to work with Iran.

00:20:34.720 This becomes a ballast,

00:20:38.360 a key counterballast

00:20:39.540 to the United States

00:20:41.020 and really the Western,

00:20:43.000 collective West,

00:20:44.340 economic system

00:20:45.860 around the world.

00:20:46.800 China, Russia, Iran,

00:20:49.460 OPEC, BRICS.

00:20:50.700 What we are seeing now

00:20:51.720 is the rise

00:20:52.400 of multi-polarity

00:20:53.700 and a parallel

00:20:54.540 economic system

00:20:55.720 predicated on

00:20:57.120 those countries

00:20:57.920 as well as

00:20:58.420 the global South

00:20:59.320 that is totally separate

00:21:01.020 from the Western system.

00:21:03.500 If I can change

00:21:04.860 to another part

00:21:06.560 of the globe,

00:21:07.820 Vladimir,

00:21:08.440 pardon me,

00:21:08.840 Volodymyr Zelensky

00:21:10.360 announces that,

00:21:12.980 well, no,

00:21:13.380 we don't need

00:21:13.940 to have another

00:21:14.600 presidential election.

00:21:15.800 So the democracy

00:21:17.840 that we are spending

00:21:18.800 billions to protect,

00:21:22.480 the president's term

00:21:24.880 of five years

00:21:25.700 has expired,

00:21:26.820 but the security

00:21:28.120 of the nation

00:21:28.820 is too great

00:21:29.680 to have an election

00:21:31.320 and therefore

00:21:32.480 we're going to postpone

00:21:33.800 it essentially

00:21:34.800 indefinitely.

00:21:36.760 I thought we were

00:21:37.720 fighting for democracy.

00:21:39.400 What makes this guy

00:21:41.240 now different

00:21:41.980 than Vladimir Putin

00:21:44.080 who at least

00:21:45.200 holds

00:21:46.460 a kabuki

00:21:49.520 of manipulated

00:21:51.320 elections

00:21:51.840 but at least

00:21:52.340 has

00:21:53.160 elections

00:21:54.920 that he has

00:21:56.300 for the purposes

00:21:56.980 of optics.

00:21:57.880 They don't even bother

00:21:58.920 to do that

00:21:59.580 in Ukraine.

00:22:01.380 You know,

00:22:02.060 Roger,

00:22:02.320 it's amazing.

00:22:02.800 The United States

00:22:03.400 in 1864,

00:22:04.800 of course,

00:22:05.560 held presidential elections

00:22:07.380 during the Civil War.

00:22:09.420 This is where you get

00:22:10.060 the famous

00:22:10.580 fusion ticket

00:22:11.740 of Lincoln and Johnson.

00:22:13.020 And so the idea

00:22:14.520 that we wouldn't

00:22:16.280 be able to hold

00:22:17.360 an election

00:22:17.660 or Ukraine

00:22:18.080 wouldn't be able

00:22:18.580 to hold

00:22:18.880 some semblance

00:22:19.880 of an election

00:22:20.480 is quite ludicrous.

00:22:22.640 And so they have

00:22:23.500 implanted martial law

00:22:24.980 and decreed martial law

00:22:25.980 across the country.

00:22:26.820 This was done

00:22:27.320 early on in the war,

00:22:28.700 by the way.

00:22:29.500 And of course,

00:22:30.260 the countdown

00:22:31.140 was brought

00:22:31.620 at that point

00:22:32.380 of saying that,

00:22:33.060 well,

00:22:33.480 if you don't

00:22:33.780 hold elections,

00:22:34.720 on what legality

00:22:36.620 do you base

00:22:37.300 your presidency

00:22:37.900 in?

00:22:38.160 He said,

00:22:38.400 well,

00:22:38.520 you base it

00:22:38.920 on the last election.

00:22:40.180 And of course,

00:22:40.620 Roger,

00:22:40.900 I did kind of

00:22:41.940 make a quip

00:22:42.560 earlier this morning

00:22:43.660 on Twitter,

00:22:44.080 as I occasionally

00:22:45.540 am known to do,

00:22:46.540 where I said,

00:22:47.400 you know,

00:22:47.940 you might criticize

00:22:49.180 Vladimir Zelensky

00:22:50.580 and criticize Ukraine

00:22:52.020 for not having

00:22:53.000 a real election

00:22:53.840 since 2019,

00:22:55.500 but then again,

00:22:56.260 who are we to talk

00:22:57.280 because we haven't

00:22:58.360 had a legitimate

00:22:59.020 election since 2016?

00:23:00.340 You make a very

00:23:02.380 good point.

00:23:03.060 I love this.

00:23:03.740 Peter Stano,

00:23:05.700 the spokesperson

00:23:06.340 for the European

00:23:07.480 Commission

00:23:08.320 for Foreign Affairs,

00:23:11.180 stressed that Ukraine

00:23:12.180 cannot hold

00:23:12.940 free elections

00:23:13.640 because it's under

00:23:14.980 attack by Russian

00:23:16.200 missiles,

00:23:17.100 drones,

00:23:17.620 bombs,

00:23:18.040 and millions

00:23:18.440 of people

00:23:19.020 have become

00:23:19.980 displaced.

00:23:21.400 Jack,

00:23:21.880 what is the

00:23:23.300 European Commission

00:23:24.220 for Foreign Affairs

00:23:25.900 and what is their

00:23:28.380 authority in this

00:23:29.320 matter?

00:23:29.680 this is elite

00:23:33.080 globalist

00:23:33.960 horseshit

00:23:35.080 is what it is.

00:23:36.080 Yeah, I mean,

00:23:36.620 Roger,

00:23:37.360 let's cut the

00:23:38.200 pretense

00:23:38.580 as you just did.

00:23:40.700 The Ukrainian

00:23:41.740 government

00:23:42.380 has been

00:23:43.820 since 2014

00:23:45.260 propped up

00:23:46.640 by the West,

00:23:47.760 propped up

00:23:48.220 by the Western

00:23:49.080 powers.

00:23:50.060 They were brought,

00:23:50.680 this regime

00:23:51.200 was brought into

00:23:51.880 power by a coup

00:23:53.560 and we're going

00:23:53.980 to call it

00:23:54.360 what it is,

00:23:55.160 a coup

00:23:55.700 that was launched

00:23:56.700 by the Obama

00:23:57.640 State Department

00:23:58.400 and elements

00:23:59.060 of the Central

00:23:59.700 Intelligence Agency

00:24:01.000 under the auspices

00:24:02.200 of none other

00:24:02.960 than Victoria

00:24:03.900 Newland

00:24:04.380 and others,

00:24:05.680 George Pyatt

00:24:06.300 is the name

00:24:06.660 who comes to

00:24:07.120 mind,

00:24:07.800 who were over there

00:24:08.660 as well as

00:24:09.180 everyone's favorite,

00:24:11.180 John McCain

00:24:12.020 and Lindsey Graham

00:24:13.440 and the Clinton

00:24:14.800 Foundation.

00:24:15.560 Remember,

00:24:16.160 at the time,

00:24:16.940 and Roger,

00:24:17.320 you know more

00:24:17.720 than anyone else,

00:24:18.740 at the time,

00:24:20.060 2015,

00:24:21.180 who becomes

00:24:21.960 the number one

00:24:23.240 donor to the

00:24:24.420 Clinton Foundation?

00:24:25.740 Viktor Pinchuk,

00:24:27.120 a Ukrainian

00:24:27.840 oligarch.

00:24:29.120 Why was a

00:24:29.800 Ukrainian oligarch

00:24:31.020 the number one

00:24:32.260 donor to the

00:24:33.160 Clinton Foundation?

00:24:34.180 What is it

00:24:35.060 that they were

00:24:35.700 paying for?

00:24:36.340 Well,

00:24:36.640 I would go so far

00:24:37.900 as to say

00:24:38.420 that they were,

00:24:39.360 that that was

00:24:40.220 a thank you,

00:24:41.740 that was a payment

00:24:42.740 for services

00:24:43.680 rendered in terms

00:24:45.080 of putting their

00:24:46.000 faction in power.

00:24:47.360 This is the pro-George

00:24:48.360 Soros faction

00:24:49.100 in power in Kiev.

00:24:51.800 And it was a bloody

00:24:52.600 coup,

00:24:53.000 and people forget

00:24:53.580 this as well.

00:24:54.520 It was an absolutely

00:24:55.200 bloody coup.

00:24:56.020 Many civilians

00:24:56.820 were killed in this.

00:24:57.660 Some were burned

00:24:58.280 alive in a house

00:24:59.820 for opposing this.

00:25:01.320 The president fled.

00:25:03.680 This was a situation

00:25:04.800 that was the most

00:25:05.620 undemocratic thing

00:25:06.600 you could call for.

00:25:07.340 So the idea

00:25:07.900 that Ukraine

00:25:08.480 has had a serious

00:25:09.660 democracy

00:25:10.280 after experiencing

00:25:11.440 something like that

00:25:12.220 is laughable

00:25:12.920 and it's a joke

00:25:13.640 and the institutions

00:25:14.740 there that then

00:25:15.660 were then put up

00:25:16.520 beforehand

00:25:17.280 have all been

00:25:18.580 controlled by the West

00:25:19.560 which includes,

00:25:20.840 by the way,

00:25:21.360 and Roger,

00:25:21.780 I'm just going to

00:25:22.160 go out and say it,

00:25:23.220 includes,

00:25:23.860 by the way,

00:25:24.600 an organization

00:25:25.460 that directly

00:25:26.680 interfered

00:25:27.600 in the election

00:25:29.440 of 2016

00:25:30.200 here in the United

00:25:31.140 States

00:25:31.480 when they created

00:25:32.260 the completely

00:25:33.200 fabricated

00:25:34.060 Black Ledger

00:25:34.920 and used this

00:25:36.120 to smear

00:25:36.920 Paul Manafort

00:25:37.780 and get him

00:25:38.820 to step down

00:25:39.860 as chairman

00:25:40.460 of the Trump

00:25:41.100 campaign.

00:25:41.960 It was false.

00:25:42.840 It was a complete

00:25:43.580 forgery

00:25:44.140 and it directly

00:25:45.120 interfered

00:25:45.820 in our elections.

00:25:47.480 And it was

00:25:47.800 courtesy of the

00:25:49.060 Ukrainian

00:25:50.380 intelligence agencies.

00:25:51.900 Yes.

00:25:52.220 Nice job,

00:25:53.540 boys.

00:25:54.120 Jack,

00:25:54.480 tell us about

00:25:55.160 your new book

00:25:55.860 and then we're

00:25:56.340 going to show

00:25:56.700 folks where

00:25:57.160 they can get it.

00:25:59.100 Of course,

00:25:59.740 that's Unhumans.

00:26:00.800 The book is

00:26:01.180 Unhumans,

00:26:02.140 The Secret History

00:26:02.740 of Communist

00:26:03.200 Revolutions

00:26:03.720 and How to Crush

00:26:04.460 Them.

00:26:04.700 Folks,

00:26:05.140 if you're worried

00:26:05.880 about communist

00:26:06.660 revolutions,

00:26:07.380 if you're not,

00:26:07.900 you should be

00:26:08.360 because they are

00:26:09.260 very interested

00:26:10.080 in you

00:26:11.000 and you might

00:26:11.680 as well wake

00:26:12.100 up because

00:26:12.680 you're in one.

00:26:13.980 We've got this

00:26:14.780 incredible book.

00:26:15.620 We put it forward.

00:26:16.340 It's the history

00:26:17.020 of every communist

00:26:17.920 revolution or at

00:26:18.700 least every major

00:26:19.280 one going all

00:26:20.360 the way back

00:26:20.720 to include even

00:26:21.480 the proto-communist

00:26:22.400 revolutions of

00:26:23.560 France.

00:26:24.300 We even get into

00:26:25.160 the downfall

00:26:25.920 of the Roman

00:26:26.460 Republic,

00:26:27.020 the rise of

00:26:27.500 the Roman Empire,

00:26:28.600 the fall of

00:26:29.240 the Roman Empire.

00:26:30.220 We go through

00:26:30.820 all of the forces

00:26:31.740 that lead to

00:26:32.500 these throughout

00:26:33.380 history and more

00:26:34.180 importantly,

00:26:35.100 we talk about

00:26:35.520 Russia,

00:26:35.820 we talk about

00:26:36.140 Spain,

00:26:36.420 we talk about

00:26:36.800 China,

00:26:37.140 Roger,

00:26:37.320 but more

00:26:38.000 importantly,

00:26:38.300 we talk about

00:26:38.880 how to defeat

00:26:40.120 and derail

00:26:41.220 these things

00:26:42.140 the way we can

00:26:42.720 do it right now

00:26:43.260 by using reciprocity,

00:26:44.820 by using lawfare,

00:26:46.100 by taking that

00:26:47.120 which is done

00:26:47.800 to us

00:26:48.620 and responding

00:26:49.760 tenfold

00:26:50.920 to the specific

00:26:52.240 individuals

00:26:53.300 who do it to us

00:26:54.800 and Roger,

00:26:55.300 yes,

00:26:55.560 we do talk

00:26:56.280 about the man

00:26:57.660 whose name

00:26:58.240 is to not be

00:26:59.520 spoken anywhere

00:27:00.760 in American politics.

00:27:02.280 Yes,

00:27:02.500 of course,

00:27:02.880 I'm talking about

00:27:03.740 one of my favorite

00:27:04.540 Catholic senators

00:27:05.700 of all time,

00:27:06.940 Joseph McCarthy

00:27:07.960 because a fantastic

00:27:09.160 section in there

00:27:10.060 about how

00:27:10.740 Joseph McCarthy

00:27:12.000 tried to warn us

00:27:13.700 and we didn't

00:27:14.600 listen.

00:27:15.800 And so,

00:27:16.260 when you look

00:27:16.880 at what he did

00:27:17.840 and you understand

00:27:18.940 what must be done now,

00:27:20.280 people can go to

00:27:20.920 unhumansbook.com,

00:27:22.920 that's unhumansbook.com

00:27:24.660 for signed copies

00:27:26.340 for myself

00:27:27.040 and my co-author,

00:27:27.820 fantastic co-author,

00:27:28.940 Joshua Lysak.

00:27:29.940 We're going

00:27:30.520 to be doing

00:27:31.080 our book launch

00:27:33.160 June 15th

00:27:34.940 at the Turning Point

00:27:36.460 Action event

00:27:37.440 in Detroit,

00:27:38.500 Michigan.

00:27:39.200 President Trump

00:27:39.780 also speaking

00:27:40.840 at that event.

00:27:42.120 It's going to be fantastic.

00:27:43.460 Mike Benz will be there.

00:27:44.660 Roger,

00:27:45.060 if you're at the event,

00:27:45.920 love to have you.

00:27:47.620 Jack,

00:27:48.280 I'm anxious

00:27:48.760 to read

00:27:49.740 your chapter

00:27:51.140 on Tail Gunner Joe,

00:27:53.100 the anti-communist

00:27:55.100 ex-Marine

00:27:56.600 from Wisconsin.

00:27:58.200 Anybody who doubts

00:27:59.080 what Jack says

00:27:59.980 may simply read

00:28:00.960 the book

00:28:01.980 Black-Filled by History

00:28:03.700 by M. Stanton Evans,

00:28:06.160 which is a very,

00:28:07.500 very thick

00:28:08.140 and scholarly tome,

00:28:09.820 but basically shows

00:28:10.840 that everything

00:28:11.640 Senator Joseph R. McCarthy

00:28:13.900 said about

00:28:14.540 the communist infiltration

00:28:16.640 of the country

00:28:17.740 then and now

00:28:19.000 turned out to be

00:28:20.460 absolutely right.

00:28:22.560 Jack,

00:28:22.820 you also had

00:28:23.440 a great posting

00:28:24.260 on X this week.

00:28:25.960 It was,

00:28:26.480 I think,

00:28:26.760 a four-minute clip

00:28:27.820 of Bishop

00:28:28.820 Fulton Sheen,

00:28:30.420 the fiery

00:28:31.200 anti-Catholic

00:28:32.840 bishop

00:28:33.600 from New York.

00:28:34.940 He was a communist.

00:28:35.980 He was like

00:28:36.940 Bela Lugosi

00:28:37.940 on,

00:28:38.880 you know,

00:28:40.200 on Christ.

00:28:41.620 You know,

00:28:41.940 Roger,

00:28:42.280 they say

00:28:42.700 not all heroes

00:28:44.780 wear capes,

00:28:45.680 but some of them do.

00:28:46.920 Yeah,

00:28:47.300 it was an amazing,

00:28:48.620 amazing clip.

00:28:50.220 All right,

00:28:50.840 we are happy

00:28:51.740 to have our good friend

00:28:52.640 Jack Posobiec.

00:28:53.340 Please go on over

00:28:54.580 to Human Events.

00:28:56.580 You want to subscribe

00:28:57.680 and follow him there.

00:28:59.920 Also over at

00:29:01.140 America's,

00:29:02.980 Real America's Voice.

00:29:04.640 Jack,

00:29:04.940 thanks for jumping

00:29:05.900 into the breach here.

00:29:07.060 I really appreciate it.

00:29:08.780 God bless,

00:29:09.260 Roger,

00:29:09.460 and I'll throw out

00:29:10.040 as well one piece

00:29:10.960 for you in that chapter.

00:29:11.960 We actually showed

00:29:13.140 the Verona intercepts

00:29:14.780 that show that

00:29:15.440 elements of the NSA

00:29:16.460 and the FBI

00:29:17.320 knew that McCarthy

00:29:19.360 was right

00:29:19.980 during the hearings,

00:29:21.460 had the information,

00:29:23.000 and didn't declassify it

00:29:24.600 as they were watching

00:29:25.660 the infiltration

00:29:26.500 of our country

00:29:27.240 by Soviet spies.

00:29:28.440 We have the declassified documents.

00:29:30.520 They came out

00:29:30.980 in the 1990s

00:29:31.940 in the NSA archives,

00:29:33.440 and it goes through

00:29:33.980 chapter and verse

00:29:35.040 of almost every single person

00:29:37.220 that Joseph McCarthy

00:29:38.280 identified as a communist

00:29:39.540 is mentioned in these files.

00:29:41.420 Yeah,

00:29:41.860 it's interesting.

00:29:42.740 In my book,

00:29:44.640 Tricky Dick's

00:29:45.280 The Rise and Fallen,

00:29:46.460 Rise of Richard Nixon,

00:29:48.040 I point out

00:29:48.820 that after

00:29:49.320 the Soviet Union fell

00:29:51.360 and we got access

00:29:52.680 to the KGB files,

00:29:54.760 we learned

00:29:55.400 that the fact

00:29:55.940 that Alger Hiss

00:29:56.760 was indeed

00:29:57.400 a Russian spy

00:29:58.400 is now indisputable,

00:30:00.200 much to the chagrin

00:30:01.140 of the love of the love.

00:30:02.300 Alger Hiss

00:30:02.860 is a major,

00:30:04.140 major figure

00:30:04.780 in the book,

00:30:05.840 as well as

00:30:07.100 a close associate

00:30:08.340 of his,

00:30:09.180 a doctor

00:30:09.620 by the name

00:30:10.240 of Robert Oppen.

00:30:11.960 Yes,

00:30:12.620 and of course

00:30:13.200 taken down

00:30:13.840 by one congressman,

00:30:15.480 Richard M. Nixon,

00:30:17.480 starting him

00:30:18.280 on his path

00:30:18.940 to the White House.

00:30:20.240 All right,

00:30:20.600 Jack Posobiec,

00:30:21.420 Human Events,

00:30:21.980 thank you so much

00:30:22.800 for joining us today

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00:30:26.180 God bless, Roger.

00:30:28.340 All right, folks,

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00:30:35.120 let's bring in

00:30:35.960 Troy Smith,

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00:30:42.480 Oh,

00:30:43.360 they're telling me

00:30:43.940 we should go to a break first.

00:30:44.940 All right,

00:30:45.200 indeed we shall.

00:30:46.300 When we come back,

00:30:48.180 the very latest update

00:30:49.740 on the goings-on

00:30:50.800 in that Manhattan trial,

00:30:52.320 I've got some bombshell news

00:30:54.260 you're going to want to hear.

00:30:55.780 We'll be right back.

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00:32:56.960 Welcome back, folks.

00:33:26.640 I'm Roger Stone,

00:33:28.320 and we're in the Stone Zone.

00:33:29.820 Joining me now,

00:33:30.940 my co-host, Troy Smith.

00:33:34.700 Roger, as always,

00:33:35.500 it's an honor to be here,

00:33:36.360 and you kind of left us

00:33:37.060 with a cliffhanger there

00:33:38.000 at the end

00:33:38.480 about a breaking bombshell

00:33:39.780 surrounding the Hush Money trial.

00:33:41.120 I want to open this up

00:33:41.780 so you can break the news.

00:33:43.620 Yeah, as you know,

00:33:44.800 former federal prosecutor

00:33:46.380 Robert Costello

00:33:47.840 testified yesterday,

00:33:50.080 a very powerful moment,

00:33:52.240 got into it

00:33:53.520 with Judge Murchan,

00:33:55.360 as was widely reported.

00:33:57.620 But what I now know

00:33:59.720 is that until Costello

00:34:02.560 had his very forceful

00:34:05.260 and compelling testimony

00:34:06.960 in public before the Congress

00:34:09.280 under oath last week,

00:34:11.220 Trump's defense lawyers

00:34:12.680 had not decided

00:34:14.120 to call the former

00:34:15.520 federal prosecutor

00:34:16.820 as a defense witness.

00:34:20.300 Therefore,

00:34:21.500 they only debriefed

00:34:24.540 Mr. Costello

00:34:25.740 on a cursory basis

00:34:27.960 before his testimony,

00:34:29.720 normally working

00:34:31.440 with a cooperating

00:34:33.580 or I should say witness,

00:34:37.000 you would do preparation.

00:34:39.500 They didn't examine

00:34:40.160 any of the hundreds

00:34:41.380 of documents

00:34:42.480 that Costello says

00:34:43.980 he possesses,

00:34:44.860 which bolster everything

00:34:46.340 he said in court.

00:34:48.180 And the reason

00:34:48.680 he may have gotten

00:34:49.540 into it with Judge Murchan

00:34:51.860 is the judge

00:34:52.840 may have put limitations

00:34:54.260 on the scope

00:34:55.600 of his testimony

00:34:57.140 that Mr. Costello

00:34:58.680 had not been made aware of.

00:35:01.780 So, but I think,

00:35:03.100 nonetheless,

00:35:04.300 Costello was a devastating witness

00:35:06.900 for Michael Cohn

00:35:09.040 because he yet again

00:35:11.880 proves that Cohn

00:35:14.180 told multiple stories

00:35:16.220 at multiple times.

00:35:18.320 I give Trump attorney

00:35:21.740 Todd Blanche credit

00:35:23.940 for backing Cohn

00:35:26.180 back into a stunning omission

00:35:28.880 that he stole $60,000

00:35:31.460 from his employer.

00:35:34.260 I agree with Jonathan Turley,

00:35:37.720 the George Washington

00:35:38.900 University professor,

00:35:40.400 certainly no Trump fan

00:35:42.280 or certainly no

00:35:43.200 Roger Stone fan,

00:35:44.580 evidently.

00:35:45.920 But he, I think,

00:35:47.800 correctly claims

00:35:48.820 that Mr. Cohn

00:35:51.340 did not connect Trump

00:35:53.420 to the underlying transaction,

00:35:56.620 which is at the heart

00:35:58.140 of this moment.

00:35:59.800 Also shocking

00:36:00.780 that Judge Murchan

00:36:02.580 would not allow

00:36:03.300 the testimony

00:36:03.920 from the former head

00:36:05.720 of the Federal Election Commission.

00:36:08.200 Clearly, authority

00:36:09.140 on federal election law,

00:36:10.900 an attorney,

00:36:11.820 who would have testified

00:36:13.720 that the transaction

00:36:15.920 in question

00:36:16.700 did not violate

00:36:17.900 any federal law

00:36:19.520 and did not,

00:36:21.100 was not connected

00:36:21.880 to any other transaction

00:36:23.580 that may have

00:36:24.560 based on an FEC investigation.

00:36:27.660 So, much like

00:36:28.540 when I went to trial,

00:36:30.460 the judge blocks

00:36:31.700 certain facts

00:36:32.900 from coming in.

00:36:34.120 I don't think

00:36:35.540 the judge

00:36:36.200 was pleased

00:36:36.980 with the tenor

00:36:38.540 of Mr. Costello's testimony.

00:36:41.520 The judge actually

00:36:42.200 accused Costello,

00:36:44.020 who, by the way,

00:36:44.900 is widely respected

00:36:46.400 in New York

00:36:47.180 legal circles

00:36:48.500 as staring

00:36:49.740 the judge down.

00:36:51.560 Perhaps Mr. Costello

00:36:52.960 was merely

00:36:54.340 paying attention.

00:36:57.060 Costello

00:36:57.740 is on the stand

00:36:58.500 again today.

00:36:59.240 I have not

00:36:59.780 yet had a chance

00:37:00.820 to see those

00:37:01.720 media reports.

00:37:03.340 but the government's case

00:37:06.880 under Mr. Bragg

00:37:07.840 is falling apart

00:37:09.580 piece by piece.

00:37:11.740 The witnesses,

00:37:12.800 they call,

00:37:13.600 Stormy Daniels,

00:37:15.420 Keith Davidson,

00:37:17.460 and, of course,

00:37:18.340 this epic clown,

00:37:21.900 Michael Cohn,

00:37:23.000 I think have done

00:37:23.620 more damage

00:37:24.900 for the government's case

00:37:27.040 than they have

00:37:28.000 helped it.

00:37:30.220 Cohn,

00:37:31.120 and I got criticized

00:37:32.280 by many on the left

00:37:34.300 who are just haters,

00:37:35.880 but I've known him

00:37:37.200 for 30 years.

00:37:37.980 He is not very bright.

00:37:40.560 He assumes

00:37:41.560 some level

00:37:42.980 of political

00:37:44.040 or public relations

00:37:45.360 or legal sophistication

00:37:47.280 that he lacks.

00:37:48.440 He has a thing

00:37:50.720 for gangster

00:37:52.280 aphorisms.

00:37:53.360 He quotes

00:37:54.500 The Godfather

00:37:55.620 constantly.

00:37:57.160 The sad thing

00:37:58.020 is he wants

00:37:58.680 to be Tim Hagen,

00:38:00.000 but he's really

00:38:01.180 Fredo.

00:38:02.180 That's the truth.

00:38:04.320 Well, Roger,

00:38:05.360 and I think

00:38:06.200 that's a good comparison

00:38:07.140 for people out there.

00:38:08.760 That really puts

00:38:09.220 an image in your head,

00:38:09.980 at least for me.

00:38:10.820 And we have clips

00:38:11.780 this morning

00:38:12.420 of several people

00:38:13.780 outside of the courtroom.

00:38:15.640 And there was

00:38:16.460 particularly a couple

00:38:17.420 that I wanted to play here.

00:38:18.460 We'll start off

00:38:19.120 with Donald Trump Jr.,

00:38:20.480 who I thought

00:38:20.940 made a great case

00:38:21.740 for his father

00:38:22.780 and about the implications

00:38:24.400 of this trial.

00:38:25.300 Let's roll Donald Trump Jr.

00:38:26.480 outside the courthouse

00:38:27.340 this morning.

00:38:28.860 And what it's doing

00:38:30.000 is setting

00:38:30.500 a disastrous precedent

00:38:32.300 for our legal system

00:38:33.900 for justice

00:38:34.880 in America.

00:38:35.780 If it can happen

00:38:36.980 to Donald Trump

00:38:37.820 and if they will try

00:38:39.060 to do this

00:38:39.540 to someone like Donald Trump

00:38:40.660 with a platform,

00:38:42.360 hundreds of millions

00:38:43.160 of followers,

00:38:44.320 the ability to fight,

00:38:45.680 they will do it

00:38:47.040 to anyone.

00:38:48.020 They have weaponized

00:38:48.940 this system

00:38:49.560 against their political enemies

00:38:50.920 and they've started

00:38:52.060 to go down

00:38:52.940 a very dangerous

00:38:54.080 and a very slippery slope.

00:38:56.880 This insanity

00:38:57.700 cannot stand.

00:38:59.220 This kind of bias

00:39:00.220 cannot be allowed

00:39:01.300 to happen

00:39:01.800 in the United States

00:39:02.760 of America

00:39:03.600 or anywhere else.

00:39:04.760 If this was going on

00:39:06.080 right now

00:39:06.640 in a third world

00:39:07.740 banana republic,

00:39:09.020 there would be people

00:39:09.820 screaming about it.

00:39:11.340 You people,

00:39:12.040 the media,

00:39:12.540 would be outraged.

00:39:14.220 Instead,

00:39:15.160 because I presume

00:39:15.960 you're fine

00:39:16.440 with whatever

00:39:16.860 the results are

00:39:17.640 as long as it's

00:39:18.220 against Donald Trump,

00:39:19.960 your silence

00:39:20.660 is deafening

00:39:21.540 and it's disgusting.

00:39:23.120 This cannot stand

00:39:24.140 and it cannot allow

00:39:25.300 to continue.

00:39:27.980 Powerful statement.

00:39:29.260 I saw Lieutenant Governor

00:39:30.380 Dan Patrick

00:39:31.100 of Texas

00:39:32.200 among those

00:39:33.400 standing

00:39:33.980 behind Donald Jr.

00:39:36.560 Look,

00:39:37.120 I think Republicans,

00:39:39.020 America First Republicans

00:39:40.320 making a pilgrimage

00:39:41.920 to New York,

00:39:42.840 holding press conferences,

00:39:46.480 many of them

00:39:47.220 attorneys themselves.

00:39:49.060 Some people can say,

00:39:50.080 well,

00:39:50.160 that's just politics.

00:39:51.040 No,

00:39:51.200 it's not politics

00:39:51.860 because there is

00:39:53.180 no case here.

00:39:54.580 This is political persecution,

00:39:56.760 something you would see

00:39:57.600 at the hands

00:39:58.140 of Fidel Castro

00:39:59.140 or Joseph Stalin

00:40:01.760 or Chairman Mao

00:40:05.420 or even,

00:40:08.240 dare I say it,

00:40:09.700 Adolf Hitler.

00:40:11.200 This is not the America

00:40:12.700 that we know.

00:40:14.840 And I agree

00:40:16.000 with those who say

00:40:16.800 they need to be careful

00:40:18.020 what they wish for.

00:40:19.720 So desperate are they

00:40:20.920 in their efforts

00:40:21.680 to destroy Donald Trump

00:40:23.100 that if they strip

00:40:24.240 presidents of immunity,

00:40:26.040 then I would say

00:40:26.980 presidents like

00:40:27.700 George W. Bush,

00:40:29.880 George H.W. Bush,

00:40:31.220 posthumously,

00:40:32.580 but George W. Bush

00:40:34.500 in this life

00:40:35.240 and Barack Obama,

00:40:36.580 not to mention

00:40:37.280 Bill Clinton,

00:40:39.040 may deeply,

00:40:40.720 deeply regret

00:40:41.740 that politicized

00:40:44.100 Supreme Court decision.

00:40:47.380 Supreme Court

00:40:48.000 made a bunch of decisions

00:40:49.180 in the wake of Watergate

00:40:50.540 that were,

00:40:52.500 as they say,

00:40:54.040 wrongly decided,

00:40:55.600 where they let politics

00:40:56.640 rather than the law

00:40:57.820 govern their decisions.

00:40:59.220 decisions.

00:41:00.240 Up until then,

00:41:01.940 executive privilege

00:41:02.760 was a recognized

00:41:04.260 constitutional principle

00:41:05.720 and it worked

00:41:06.560 pretty well.

00:41:07.580 But now,

00:41:08.980 it's turned on

00:41:09.700 their heads.

00:41:10.700 Remember when Nixon

00:41:11.500 had the tapes

00:41:12.260 and he did not want

00:41:13.200 to turn them over?

00:41:14.680 And they said,

00:41:15.860 oh,

00:41:16.160 it's a constitutional crisis.

00:41:18.040 The people have

00:41:18.820 a right to know

00:41:19.500 he has no executive

00:41:20.540 privilege to that material.

00:41:22.420 But now,

00:41:23.760 the Biden administration

00:41:24.720 does not want to

00:41:25.560 turn over the tape

00:41:26.460 recording of his interview,

00:41:27.860 which is a formal

00:41:29.400 federal document

00:41:30.620 with special counsel

00:41:32.040 Robert Herr.

00:41:33.520 Why should he be able

00:41:34.460 to shield that?

00:41:35.360 Richard Nixon could not,

00:41:36.840 according to the U.S. Supreme Court,

00:41:38.720 shield his tapes.

00:41:41.240 Why aren't the Biden tapes

00:41:42.760 being released?

00:41:44.540 They need to be released.

00:41:46.220 The House is going to hold

00:41:48.380 the Department of Justice

00:41:50.520 in contempt

00:41:51.520 for their failure

00:41:52.540 to return them.

00:41:53.320 So hopefully,

00:41:54.340 this is going

00:41:55.660 to the Supreme Court

00:41:56.820 where all the precedents

00:41:58.600 are the Nixon-era precedents.

00:42:01.300 Nixon v. Fitzgerald

00:42:03.120 specifically.

00:42:04.280 So it's an interesting

00:42:05.280 development.

00:42:06.220 It just shows you

00:42:06.940 how completely hypocritical

00:42:08.420 and phony

00:42:09.360 the liberal Democrat

00:42:11.860 left is

00:42:13.040 in this country.

00:42:13.820 Well, especially

00:42:15.480 when it comes

00:42:15.920 to these tapes, Roger,

00:42:16.840 because even the excuse

00:42:18.300 that the Biden administration

00:42:19.380 used to say,

00:42:20.780 oh, we need to conceal

00:42:21.420 this case

00:42:21.820 because the Republicans

00:42:22.760 want them

00:42:23.320 for political reasons,

00:42:25.400 that's not a valid excuse

00:42:26.600 to conceal things like this

00:42:28.540 based on the Supreme Court

00:42:29.820 ruling that you just stated.

00:42:31.200 I mean, this is a decided matter.

00:42:33.180 Do you think

00:42:33.840 that Republicans

00:42:34.360 in the House

00:42:35.280 and in the Senate

00:42:36.120 need to make this

00:42:36.940 a top priority

00:42:37.920 to get this tape released?

00:42:39.680 I'm a little astounded

00:42:41.540 when I watched

00:42:43.000 the interview

00:42:43.740 with Attorney General

00:42:45.040 Merrick Garland

00:42:46.760 where he basically said,

00:42:48.140 well, yes,

00:42:48.440 we have an obligation

00:42:49.380 to obey,

00:42:50.660 you know,

00:42:51.680 demand for a subpoena,

00:42:53.380 but only if it's legitimate.

00:42:55.200 Well, this is passed

00:42:56.160 by the U.S.

00:42:56.820 House of Representatives.

00:42:57.780 That's the official

00:42:59.040 governing body

00:42:59.880 of the United States.

00:43:00.700 In what way

00:43:01.180 is it illegitimate?

00:43:02.460 It's not.

00:43:03.400 It's just the politics

00:43:04.340 of it for him

00:43:05.120 are inconvenient.

00:43:06.580 So does he believe

00:43:07.400 in the constitutional

00:43:08.240 principle of law

00:43:09.580 or does he not?

00:43:12.200 The Justice Department

00:43:13.180 under Donald Trump

00:43:14.100 worked to put

00:43:14.740 Donald Trump in jail

00:43:15.820 and they argued

00:43:16.760 that they were,

00:43:17.600 that they owed it

00:43:18.280 to the constitutional system

00:43:20.580 when that was politics.

00:43:22.140 Now, this is politics.

00:43:24.260 I don't know

00:43:25.020 how they can fail

00:43:26.140 to ultimately impeach him

00:43:29.500 if they could muster

00:43:31.460 the votes.

00:43:32.100 But as you know,

00:43:33.220 the problem

00:43:33.760 in the U.S. House

00:43:34.920 is not the left-wing Democrats.

00:43:37.280 It's the weak-kneed

00:43:38.660 lily-livered,

00:43:40.440 cowardly,

00:43:41.680 spineless,

00:43:43.180 go-along-to-get-along

00:43:45.360 establishment Republicans

00:43:47.500 like Tom Cole

00:43:49.300 of Oklahoma.

00:43:50.940 Tom Cole,

00:43:51.580 among a handful

00:43:52.780 of Republicans

00:43:54.460 to vote against

00:43:55.280 the censure

00:43:55.880 of the man

00:43:56.720 he calls his,

00:43:57.920 quote,

00:43:58.060 good friend,

00:43:58.820 Adam Schiff,

00:43:59.940 a man he says

00:44:01.000 that he admires.

00:44:03.260 A great member

00:44:04.140 of Congress,

00:44:05.040 Tom Cole says.

00:44:06.740 Schiff, in return,

00:44:07.720 says that he thinks

00:44:09.040 the world of Tom Cole.

00:44:11.100 There you have it, folks.

00:44:12.320 That is the uniparty

00:44:14.120 that will not stand up

00:44:15.880 and save this country.

00:44:18.820 And I just,

00:44:20.040 it is,

00:44:20.540 it is,

00:44:22.140 I think,

00:44:23.620 fraught with danger.

00:44:25.040 As unhappy as I am

00:44:26.620 with some of the things

00:44:27.720 Speaker Johnson has done,

00:44:30.560 I don't think

00:44:31.400 we can afford

00:44:32.040 the turbulence

00:44:32.920 and the risk

00:44:34.680 of trying to

00:44:35.880 change leadership

00:44:36.780 right now.

00:44:38.320 The House

00:44:40.200 margin is so thin

00:44:41.740 that we cannot

00:44:43.540 risk

00:44:44.100 Hakeem Jeffries

00:44:45.400 of New York

00:44:46.120 becoming Speaker.

00:44:47.760 And if Paul Singer,

00:44:49.320 based on a series

00:44:50.420 of articles

00:44:50.980 at slingshot.news,

00:44:52.760 goes out

00:44:53.380 and decides

00:44:53.860 to purchase

00:44:54.520 the retirement

00:44:55.460 of a couple

00:44:56.440 more Congress people,

00:44:58.200 well past the time

00:44:59.540 that their seat

00:45:00.180 can be filled

00:45:01.260 before the next election,

00:45:02.660 bringing down the,

00:45:04.720 bringing up

00:45:05.620 the number

00:45:05.960 of vacancies,

00:45:06.740 therefore bringing

00:45:07.660 down the total

00:45:08.420 number of members

00:45:09.300 in the House

00:45:10.300 to the point

00:45:11.100 where we could

00:45:11.700 actually lose

00:45:13.160 the majority.

00:45:14.560 I think we have it

00:45:15.240 by three seats

00:45:16.440 right now,

00:45:16.980 if I'm correct.

00:45:18.100 So we're in

00:45:19.220 a very precarious time,

00:45:21.100 very disappointed

00:45:22.060 in Speaker Johnson's

00:45:23.820 vote,

00:45:24.420 tie-breaking vote,

00:45:25.860 to renew

00:45:28.840 the FISA

00:45:29.920 spying,

00:45:31.320 I should say

00:45:31.780 the FISA

00:45:32.220 government

00:45:32.660 intelligence program,

00:45:33.940 which was used

00:45:35.000 illegally to spy

00:45:36.300 on President

00:45:36.980 Donald Trump.

00:45:38.440 Also,

00:45:39.040 the Republicans

00:45:39.760 not even amending

00:45:40.820 it to ensure

00:45:42.020 that it can never

00:45:42.760 be used

00:45:43.320 without a

00:45:43.980 warrant

00:45:47.680 from a federal

00:45:48.580 judge

00:45:49.080 if the surveillance

00:45:50.200 is on a

00:45:51.080 U.S. citizen.

00:45:52.920 Remember,

00:45:53.340 they told us

00:45:54.100 that the Patriot Act

00:45:55.280 and the FISA

00:45:57.400 program

00:45:57.900 were set up

00:45:58.940 to protect us

00:45:59.820 from foreign

00:46:00.920 threats to us,

00:46:03.240 but as you know,

00:46:03.900 they have been

00:46:04.320 abused to spy

00:46:05.940 on American

00:46:07.020 citizens.

00:46:08.180 So I would say

00:46:09.340 the Speaker's

00:46:10.060 vote here

00:46:10.780 was deeply

00:46:11.420 disappointing,

00:46:12.680 shipping off

00:46:13.200 another $62 billion

00:46:14.480 for Ukraine,

00:46:15.880 deeply disappointing.

00:46:18.500 I don't know

00:46:20.240 that he could

00:46:21.400 survive.

00:46:22.020 If the Republicans

00:46:22.580 hold the House,

00:46:23.480 I don't even know

00:46:24.320 that he will be

00:46:25.020 the Speaker.

00:46:26.040 Look,

00:46:26.460 I like that he's

00:46:27.160 endorsed President

00:46:27.880 Trump.

00:46:28.760 He seems like

00:46:29.600 a nice fellow.

00:46:30.340 He certainly

00:46:30.740 seems like a good

00:46:31.500 Christian,

00:46:32.340 but on some

00:46:33.280 of these crucial

00:46:34.040 issues,

00:46:34.800 I think that

00:46:35.860 he is

00:46:36.600 underwhelming.

00:46:38.360 Anyway,

00:46:39.120 we're going to

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00:48:51.320 so the scientist

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00:48:53.220 his own

00:48:53.620 medicine.

00:49:12.400 Welcome back,

00:49:13.440 folks.

00:49:13.740 We're back in

00:49:14.420 the stone zone.

00:49:15.180 I do want to

00:49:15.820 mention that if

00:49:16.540 you have not

00:49:17.160 seen the epic

00:49:19.200 biographical

00:49:20.820 documentary,

00:49:22.260 Flynn,

00:49:23.100 I very,

00:49:24.340 very highly

00:49:25.140 recommend it.

00:49:26.340 I wrote a

00:49:27.160 review of it

00:49:28.020 at thestonezone.com.

00:49:30.340 It was

00:49:30.980 graciously also

00:49:32.040 picked up at the

00:49:32.800 Western Journal.

00:49:33.940 This is a

00:49:34.420 powerful movie

00:49:35.360 that tells you

00:49:36.240 why I admire

00:49:37.360 General Flynn

00:49:38.240 so much

00:49:39.100 and how much

00:49:40.260 and why I

00:49:41.020 respect him

00:49:41.660 as a leader,

00:49:42.720 as a Christian

00:49:43.920 and as a man.

00:49:45.660 This film tells

00:49:46.300 you not only

00:49:46.900 what they did

00:49:48.060 to him and

00:49:48.760 his family,

00:49:49.440 but explains

00:49:50.260 a great deal

00:49:50.900 why they did

00:49:52.120 it and the

00:49:53.140 danger he posed

00:49:54.280 from those

00:49:54.960 who would steal

00:49:56.000 our constitutional

00:49:57.100 values.

00:49:57.920 So do yourself

00:49:58.940 a favor.

00:49:59.760 You can go to

00:50:00.340 FlynnMovie.com,

00:50:02.800 get the schedule.

00:50:04.780 General Flynn

00:50:05.540 is on the road.

00:50:06.640 There are showings

00:50:07.780 across the country.

00:50:09.220 Looks like they

00:50:09.700 had a great time

00:50:10.560 last night in Tulsa.

00:50:11.580 I saw my friend

00:50:12.980 Jackson Lawmire,

00:50:16.200 Pastor Jackson

00:50:16.940 Lawmire,

00:50:17.860 there last night.

00:50:19.160 I wish I could

00:50:19.760 have been in Tulsa.

00:50:21.320 Some of the best

00:50:22.420 pizza you've ever

00:50:23.840 had, by the way.

00:50:25.140 So anyway,

00:50:26.360 Troy, let's

00:50:26.900 continue.

00:50:28.880 Whatever, Roger,

00:50:29.680 and I'll add on

00:50:30.380 to that, you know,

00:50:30.920 the Flynn movie.

00:50:31.640 We were able to

00:50:32.160 see that together

00:50:33.000 on the other

00:50:34.600 coast here in

00:50:35.300 Florida.

00:50:35.760 It's a great film.

00:50:36.700 Couldn't recommend

00:50:37.260 it enough.

00:50:38.020 And it's important

00:50:39.480 because we're heading

00:50:40.080 into the 2024

00:50:40.800 election,

00:50:41.420 which is so

00:50:41.920 crucial to

00:50:43.040 keeping American

00:50:44.760 values alive.

00:50:45.840 You know,

00:50:45.980 Roger, I feel like

00:50:46.620 we're experiencing

00:50:47.640 a period right now

00:50:48.400 where the light

00:50:48.880 bulb, American

00:50:49.960 liberty,

00:50:50.540 prosperity is

00:50:51.280 getting very dim,

00:50:52.660 as dim as I

00:50:53.220 ever remember it.

00:50:54.160 And part of this

00:50:55.580 is the polling

00:50:57.100 that we're going

00:50:57.640 into the election

00:50:58.300 now.

00:50:58.720 And what I see

00:51:00.400 is what you've

00:51:01.320 been predicting,

00:51:02.160 all along is that

00:51:02.820 President Donald

00:51:03.640 Trump is dominating

00:51:04.700 in a lot of these

00:51:05.400 swing states,

00:51:05.880 states, but he

00:51:06.680 remains under the

00:51:07.620 50% threshold that

00:51:09.360 we've talked about

00:51:10.020 here.

00:51:10.220 And I want you to

00:51:10.720 kind of get into

00:51:11.380 here.

00:51:11.860 Let's play a short

00:51:12.620 video of showing

00:51:14.360 the swing state

00:51:15.160 polling heading into

00:51:16.280 2024, where President

00:51:17.440 Trump is cracking the

00:51:18.560 50% number in nearly

00:51:20.080 every single swing

00:51:21.720 state.

00:51:22.040 But despite it all,

00:51:23.780 the state of the race

00:51:24.600 remains stagnant.

00:51:26.220 Biden continues to

00:51:27.280 trail former President

00:51:28.340 Trump in several key

00:51:29.520 battleground states,

00:51:30.640 down by double digits

00:51:32.000 in Nevada and Georgia

00:51:33.200 states he won in 2020.

00:51:36.860 So, Roger, your

00:51:37.700 thoughts, do you think

00:51:38.580 Trump is close to

00:51:39.540 cracking that wall where

00:51:40.540 he's almost going to be

00:51:41.260 a favorite going into

00:51:42.160 this election?

00:51:43.180 Well, it is a general

00:51:44.360 rule of thumb when

00:51:45.300 you're studying polling

00:51:46.360 that it's the incumbent

00:51:47.580 who has to be at 50

00:51:48.880 to be safe.

00:51:50.160 So Joe Biden has a lot

00:51:51.540 more to worry about in

00:51:52.420 these numbers than

00:51:53.180 Donald Trump.

00:51:54.200 The challenger doesn't

00:51:55.180 have to have 50 this

00:51:56.540 far out.

00:51:57.680 The challenger will

00:51:58.460 ultimately have to

00:51:59.600 pass 50 or in a

00:52:01.660 multi-candidate race,

00:52:03.420 win with a plurality,

00:52:04.860 but win a solid

00:52:06.120 victory in the

00:52:07.940 Electoral College.

00:52:09.360 Even if Robert F.

00:52:10.480 Kennedy does manage

00:52:12.040 to get on the ballot

00:52:13.080 in enough states to

00:52:14.860 win 270 electoral

00:52:17.140 votes, theoretically,

00:52:19.040 which I think is

00:52:19.420 highly unlikely, I

00:52:20.760 still think it's

00:52:21.520 that without that,

00:52:22.860 and perhaps even

00:52:23.540 with that, he's

00:52:24.720 unlikely to make any

00:52:25.940 of the national

00:52:26.700 debates, which could

00:52:28.280 be pivotal in this

00:52:29.540 race.

00:52:30.180 But more importantly,

00:52:31.100 there is no state

00:52:32.020 you can point to

00:52:33.560 that he is likely

00:52:34.700 to carry.

00:52:36.020 Therefore, the chances

00:52:36.940 of this going

00:52:38.980 into the House

00:52:40.340 is unlikely.

00:52:42.360 Don't think he's

00:52:42.940 going to deny

00:52:43.620 either Trump or

00:52:45.260 Biden any

00:52:46.040 individual states.

00:52:48.300 Trump and Biden

00:52:50.020 are locked into

00:52:50.680 a relatively

00:52:51.340 close race.

00:52:52.260 I like where the

00:52:53.320 president is much

00:52:54.220 better.

00:52:54.960 His polls are

00:52:55.660 stronger.

00:52:56.520 His support is

00:52:57.480 intense.

00:52:58.480 So not only is he

00:52:59.720 continuing to

00:53:00.560 galvanize those

00:53:01.940 voters he already

00:53:02.780 has, but he is

00:53:04.320 picking up votes,

00:53:05.540 if you look at the

00:53:06.360 cost tabs, in the

00:53:08.180 surveys among

00:53:09.360 African Americans,

00:53:11.160 among Hispanic

00:53:11.980 Americans, against

00:53:13.480 younger Americans,

00:53:15.560 against Asian

00:53:16.980 Americans, far

00:53:18.800 beyond the

00:53:19.600 Republican Party's

00:53:20.740 previous track

00:53:21.920 record among

00:53:22.800 those voters.

00:53:24.000 This is why he

00:53:25.800 was elected in

00:53:26.520 2016 and why

00:53:28.140 Mitt Romney was

00:53:29.280 not elected in

00:53:30.460 2012, because

00:53:32.500 Romney could not

00:53:34.500 make a vote

00:53:35.600 into these

00:53:36.720 voters, many of

00:53:37.820 whom voted for

00:53:38.720 Obama, or many of

00:53:40.060 whom are new

00:53:41.000 voters.

00:53:41.860 So the race is

00:53:42.940 very far from

00:53:44.200 over.

00:53:44.840 We'll have many,

00:53:45.660 many twists and

00:53:47.180 turns.

00:53:48.640 The debate is

00:53:50.320 an unprecedented

00:53:51.400 event.

00:53:53.160 Two now

00:53:54.000 scheduled debates

00:53:55.340 we have never

00:53:56.560 in the history of

00:53:57.360 the country had

00:53:58.520 a presidential

00:53:59.700 debate between

00:54:00.580 Republicans and

00:54:01.420 Democrats before

00:54:02.960 the national

00:54:04.020 conventions that

00:54:05.380 nominated those

00:54:06.260 candidates.

00:54:07.280 So Donald Trump

00:54:07.960 is not today the

00:54:09.120 legal nominee of

00:54:10.540 the Republican

00:54:10.980 Party, even

00:54:12.320 though he has

00:54:13.180 earned enough

00:54:13.900 delegates to

00:54:15.100 easily be

00:54:15.840 nominated formally

00:54:17.000 at their

00:54:17.920 convention in

00:54:18.920 July.

00:54:20.460 Joe Biden is

00:54:21.300 not the

00:54:22.200 nominee of the

00:54:23.180 Democratic Party,

00:54:24.240 although he has

00:54:25.820 essentially no

00:54:27.080 opposition and

00:54:28.360 therefore will

00:54:29.040 theoretically have

00:54:30.000 enough delegates

00:54:30.760 to be nominated

00:54:32.100 at their

00:54:33.080 convention in

00:54:34.080 Chicago, which

00:54:35.160 is August.

00:54:36.460 Normally, by

00:54:37.260 the way, the

00:54:38.500 party that is

00:54:40.040 out goes

00:54:40.940 second.

00:54:41.720 The in-party

00:54:42.540 goes first.

00:54:43.880 I don't know

00:54:44.280 why that has

00:54:44.900 been reversed,

00:54:46.280 but the

00:54:48.320 president shows

00:54:49.620 enormous courage

00:54:50.800 going into the

00:54:52.240 lion's den in

00:54:53.160 CNN, rules that

00:54:55.120 allegedly say that

00:54:56.440 CNN can turn the

00:54:57.840 president's microphone

00:54:58.760 off while Joe

00:55:00.040 Biden is lying, I

00:55:01.000 mean speaking,

00:55:02.080 that there will be

00:55:05.740 no studio audience,

00:55:07.140 and of course, the

00:55:08.440 two moderators

00:55:09.400 aren't moderators

00:55:10.380 at all, they're

00:55:11.040 muggers.

00:55:12.180 This is going to

00:55:13.360 be a three-on-one

00:55:15.320 debate.

00:55:16.120 Now, my money's

00:55:17.160 still on Donald

00:55:17.880 Trump because he's

00:55:19.140 a brawler, and I

00:55:21.020 think this was a

00:55:22.340 gambit by Joe.

00:55:24.980 He was certain

00:55:26.060 that Trump would

00:55:26.620 turn this down.

00:55:27.840 Now he's pissing

00:55:29.020 his pants because

00:55:30.620 he's afraid to

00:55:32.500 debate Donald

00:55:33.200 Trump even in a

00:55:34.080 rigged situation.

00:55:36.560 This is going to

00:55:37.720 be epic if it all

00:55:39.140 holds together.

00:55:40.320 I do agree one

00:55:41.160 thing, though,

00:55:41.740 Troy, and this is

00:55:42.420 important.

00:55:43.540 Joe Biden should

00:55:44.400 take a drug test

00:55:46.140 immediately.

00:55:47.440 I don't mean a

00:55:48.020 two days, I don't

00:55:48.880 mean three days

00:55:49.440 previously, immediately

00:55:50.740 before the debate.

00:55:51.940 I mean, in the hour

00:55:52.720 before the debate,

00:55:53.940 both he and Trump

00:55:54.760 should take drug

00:55:55.840 tests to see if

00:55:57.160 they're hopped up on

00:55:58.280 anything.

00:55:59.500 Trump says he's

00:56:00.420 willing to take

00:56:01.020 one.

00:56:01.780 We still don't have

00:56:02.800 an answer from

00:56:03.880 Joe Biden.

00:56:06.120 Well, I think that's

00:56:07.320 important because we

00:56:08.060 all saw the state of

00:56:08.800 the union, and I

00:56:09.780 think it's important

00:56:10.500 because there's

00:56:11.720 going to be, I

00:56:12.460 think, a trap

00:56:13.000 element to this,

00:56:14.380 Roger, because

00:56:14.740 politically, the

00:56:16.260 Biden administration

00:56:16.940 continues to show

00:56:17.840 signs that they're

00:56:18.460 cracking under the

00:56:19.260 pressure, mostly

00:56:20.420 when it comes to

00:56:21.020 their own

00:56:21.340 Democratic voters.

00:56:22.400 And there's video

00:56:22.940 that's kind of

00:56:23.440 breaking.

00:56:23.900 I wanted to bring

00:56:24.380 this up today.

00:56:25.600 Anthony Blinken

00:56:26.280 was met with

00:56:27.020 anti-Israel

00:56:27.860 protesters in

00:56:29.380 Congress today.

00:56:30.680 They broke up

00:56:31.420 his testimony, and

00:56:32.740 there was security

00:56:33.820 that carried him

00:56:34.380 out.

00:56:34.580 Let's roll that

00:56:35.100 clip real closely to

00:56:35.940 show just how

00:56:37.080 badly the

00:56:37.640 Democrat Party

00:56:38.300 is splitting

00:56:38.840 heading into

00:56:39.520 2024.

00:56:40.720 He is a war

00:56:41.520 criminal.

00:56:42.400 He is a war

00:56:43.160 criminal.

00:56:43.960 The blood of

00:56:44.780 40,000 people

00:56:46.080 is on his hands.

00:56:47.640 The blood of

00:56:48.520 40,000

00:56:55.400 people.

00:56:56.080 Mr. Secretary, you may continue.

00:57:15.680 So, Roger, your thoughts on Anthony Blinken's testimony being disrupted today by anti-Israel protesters?

00:57:21.400 Look, the Democrats and the Biden administration are playing a dangerous double game.

00:57:28.300 They have to know that when they unfreeze more than $100 billion in assets, but more particularly when they lift all the sanctions stopping Iran from selling their oil, they have turbocharged the Iranian economy.

00:57:43.560 In our first segment, Jack Posobiec touched on the delicacy internally, politically there, but we have turbocharged their economy.

00:57:55.440 They told us before they got the money, in terms of the unfrozen assets, that they would use it for only humanitarian purposes.

00:58:03.760 Humanitarian purposes like restarting their nuclear weapons development program.

00:58:10.340 Humanitarian purposes like financing the October 7th murderers of thousands of Jews.

00:58:17.120 So, it is naive to think that you can fund them, but they will behave.

00:58:22.520 In fact, it's the exact opposite.

00:58:24.020 The last president, Barack Obama, was so naive that he made a deal with them, which he paid the millions of dollars not to develop nuclear weapons.

00:58:34.060 At the same time, he delivered pallets of side cash that wasn't addressed in the signed agreement so that everybody, all the boys, got bribed.

00:58:42.800 It reminded me of the scene in Blazing Saddles where Governor William J. Pettimane is handing out paddle boards to his cronies.

00:58:52.580 It was that bad.

00:58:54.080 So, it is, it's extraordinary to see, this is very much like 1968 when the Vietnam War drove a deep division among the liberals in the Democratic Party.

00:59:08.120 This is happening again.

00:59:10.680 Chicago is going to be like Chicago was in 1968.

00:59:14.640 Not saying that Antifa and BLM and other foreign-financed extremist violent groups who don't seem to be held to the same legal standards as others will not be causing problems in Milwaukee.

00:59:30.820 They will.

00:59:31.800 But the party they control is the party where they want to fight.

00:59:36.160 And Joe Biden now basically backdooring Israel, insisting, giving Israel all the rhetorical support they need, plus a lot of money, but also backing their rivals.

00:59:52.100 I mean, the idea that the Iranians would launch a missile and drone strike at Israel, but conveniently call the Egyptians to tell them to call the Americans, to tell them to call the Israelis to get ready because it's coming, it shows you what a kabuki theater this whole thing is.

01:00:13.940 Now, the Iron Dome worked, the anti-missile and anti-drone technology of Israel, the United States, Saudi Arabia, the Jordanians, the French, and the British working together limited the potential damage the experts told us that that attack could have made.

01:00:37.740 But is the purpose here to get more money so we got to have some action so we can go back to the Congress and tell them we need printing press billions more?

01:00:49.100 It's kind of like FBI Director Christopher Wray saying just before the FISA renewal vote, the boogeyman is going to get us if we don't renew this.

01:00:59.160 I mean, the Chinese have, they've broken, they're about to break into the power grid.

01:01:04.980 Please give me the authority to spy on U.S. citizens.

01:01:08.920 It's ludicrous, the theatrics of all of this.

01:01:14.500 All right, we have to leave it there, folks.

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