The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - May 28, 2024


Why Bud Light Sucks & How Ultra Right Beer Took America By Storm w⧸ Seth Weathers – The StoneZONE


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

156.79645

Word Count

9,430

Sentence Count

702

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

After a brief hiatus, we re back in the Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone. Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four+ decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone s become a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host, Roger Stone with his co-host, Troy Smith, editor-in-chief of Slingshot News, and co-founder of Conservative Dad s Ultra Right Beer, Seth Weathers, joins the show to talk about the new Bud Light ad campaign and why it s a terrible idea. And, of course, there s a special guest on this week s episode of The Stone Zone, the man himself, Seth Warshaw! who happens to be a beer lover, and an avid Bud Light drinker, too. Enjoy, and rest easy, and Happy Memorial Day, everyone! - Roger and Troy . - . . . . , , , . . , . , and . ) and , as always, The Stonezone. , the Stonezone ! ... Thank you so much for listening and supporting the show, and thanks for being a friend of the show! - Roger & Troy & Seth The StoneZone Thanks to our sponsor, , for making this podcast possible. - Your support is so appreciated, and we can't thank you enough, so much so much, so we can keep on giving you all the love, support, support you, and support you with our efforts, and all the support you're giving us the chance to support us in this podcast, we appreciate you, we're going to keep on supporting us, we'll keep on coming back, we love you! - Thank you, you're amazing, we really appreciate it, we can t doin' you. - The Stone zone. - Your continued support, Thank you! , Troy and Seth - Thank You, Troy & SWEARING YOU. - Thankyou, SONGS, ROGER, RICKY, RYAN


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:11.680 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:15.840 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:21.480 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:25.480 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:32.500 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:37.840 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:45.380 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.160 I hope that you had a solemn Memorial Day, appropriately paying tribute to those who gave all for our country.
00:00:59.960 And after a brief hiatus, we're back in the zone.
00:01:04.000 Now, I don't know about you, Troy.
00:01:06.400 Let's bring Troy Smith, my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news.
00:01:12.740 And, Troy, I don't know if you're a beer drinker, but I am.
00:01:15.700 I tend to favor the darker beers, ales, and so on.
00:01:19.680 But I was pretty disgusted when Bud Light decided to go trans as their great new marketing trend.
00:01:28.980 Now, I was never all that fond of Bud Light, and Bud is, well, not that great either.
00:01:35.620 But I think it was one of the great marketing mistakes of all time.
00:01:39.640 A very good friend of mine, Seth Weathers, who's a political consultant, strategist, does some lobbying work.
00:01:47.140 But he also is a beer lover, and he was as disgusted as I was, so he decided to do something about it.
00:01:54.720 Check out this video.
00:01:57.120 It's been a wild ride since I started Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer.
00:02:01.920 And we're just getting started.
00:02:03.460 We got back to the basics.
00:02:08.540 Great beer, fun, patriotism, fast cars, and beautiful real women.
00:02:13.640 And 100% woke free.
00:02:19.520 But some people tell me I need to tone down the politics in our ads.
00:02:23.220 So I'm making this ad just for them.
00:02:25.340 How's that for tone?
00:02:41.500 But wait, there's more.
00:02:43.760 Assuming I don't wreck it, I'm giving away my gas-guzzling classic American muscle car at conservativedadscar.com.
00:02:55.340 That's so great.
00:02:57.820 And now the man himself joins us.
00:03:00.320 Beer baron, Seth Weathers, enters the Stone Zone.
00:03:04.980 Good to see you, Roger.
00:03:06.080 It's been too long.
00:03:07.680 Now, I know you're going to critique me on my clothing attire here,
00:03:10.860 but ever since I left the degenerate world of political consulting and became a beer man,
00:03:14.540 it also means I became a T-shirt man.
00:03:17.720 Well, today the air condition is broken and it's 98 degrees in South Florida.
00:03:22.440 So in all honesty, I wish I was wearing a T-shirt.
00:03:25.340 I want to congratulate you on your tremendous success.
00:03:30.000 Kind of start from the beginning.
00:03:32.460 Who in their right mind at Bud Light would decide to rebrand a popular American brand
00:03:38.980 advocating for change genderism to appeal to 2% of the people in America?
00:03:45.820 Yeah, it's what happens when you take a Manhattan, you know, she's a marketing strategist
00:03:51.560 and put her in control of a billion-dollar brand's marketing budget.
00:03:56.580 And, you know, these people live in such an isolated bubble from real Americans or the
00:04:01.500 majority of Americans that they have no idea how out of touch they really are.
00:04:06.280 And I think this woman actually thought that this was going to be a success because all
00:04:10.520 her friends at her cocktail parties in Manhattan thought it was the greatest thing they'd ever
00:04:14.200 seen.
00:04:15.220 And so I think they got a little bit of a little taste of what reality is and what the average
00:04:19.600 American thinks about these things.
00:04:21.000 An excellent point.
00:04:24.840 The influence of BlackRock behind all of these companies like Bud Light, I suspect it's not
00:04:31.840 actually coincidental.
00:04:33.660 I think maybe there's some deeper purpose.
00:04:36.360 Troy, what's your thinking?
00:04:38.440 Well, my question to you, Seth, is you're involved with the business here.
00:04:41.740 So, like, where's your demographic?
00:04:44.520 Like, what percent?
00:04:45.640 Can you tell us where your demographics are for beer drinkers?
00:04:48.280 Because as Roger pointed out, it would seem not only that with the dilemma of anything,
00:04:52.440 they're appealing to 2% of the population, but it would also seem that a majority of your
00:04:58.400 clients are probably middle-aged people.
00:05:00.800 Am I wrong there?
00:05:02.080 We actually have a really broad range, and it's really anywhere from the 21 to 50 range.
00:05:08.320 And obviously, it goes above.
00:05:09.800 But your heaviest beer drinking crowd is technically 18 to 35.
00:05:13.700 But of course, we all know the 18 part's illegal.
00:05:15.300 But 21 to 35 is the majority of where beer drinking takes place consumption-wise.
00:05:21.860 But we have a really motivated younger fan base.
00:05:27.920 We've launched in some college areas like Georgia, UGA University of Georgia and Athens,
00:05:32.400 Georgia here.
00:05:32.900 We launched a lot of the bars there recently and started selling the product.
00:05:36.460 And, you know, a lot of people thought, well, this is a college town.
00:05:38.540 They're going to be liberal.
00:05:39.440 They got the pride sidewalks.
00:05:42.060 Like, you're not going to be welcome here.
00:05:43.360 And I'm like, well, a lot of these kids are Trump kids.
00:05:46.000 I think we're going to be just fine.
00:05:47.620 And so we launched there to just unbelievable success.
00:05:50.460 The young kids love it, especially the young college-age males, but, you know, a lot of
00:05:54.520 the women as well.
00:05:55.240 So we're seeing success in a broad age range, which is what you really want, you know,
00:05:59.540 obviously, for a beer brand.
00:06:00.740 So we're excited to see it.
00:06:02.040 I'm excited to see that the young people, it encourages them.
00:06:04.620 It makes them more emboldened in their beliefs.
00:06:06.120 It's, you know, having the red, white, and blue can that says what it says.
00:06:09.780 And it's just, it's, it's, I think it's encouraging for other young people to see other young people
00:06:14.940 stating their beliefs politically that are conservative.
00:06:18.780 Seth, how did you decide on the taste of your beer?
00:06:21.900 In other words, did you go test a number of beers from various breweries?
00:06:27.520 But how do you decide on your taste?
00:06:30.060 One of the things I can never understand is when you go into a bar and they have seven
00:06:34.660 beers on tap and they're all essentially identical.
00:06:38.600 In other words, don't, don't, don't give me Stella and Coors and Bud Light.
00:06:43.580 They're all identical.
00:06:45.520 And this is a tough question because you want it not only to be well-branded, you actually
00:06:51.600 want the beer to taste good.
00:06:53.440 So how did you go about it?
00:06:54.340 Well, I knew for this to be a forever brand, obviously it had to be great beer.
00:06:59.540 People drink their beer, big beer drinkers drink their beer every week and they want
00:07:03.600 consistency.
00:07:04.380 They want the same thing.
00:07:06.080 And so, yes, it was testing.
00:07:08.080 So the person that worked on the recipe with us has been doing recipes for, I think it was
00:07:11.140 like 27 years or so.
00:07:12.840 And so he provided, you know, a sample of kind of across the range of different types of
00:07:18.500 flavoring.
00:07:19.760 You know, we would narrow it down to a few, we'd narrow it down to a few more and, you know,
00:07:23.340 that kind of stuff until they kind of start getting where we're, where they want it to
00:07:27.640 be.
00:07:27.780 And we're currently in the process of developing a new beer.
00:07:29.920 I'm actually breaking that right here, developing a new beer flavor as well right now.
00:07:34.720 And so we're kind of going through the same process.
00:07:36.200 We just did a very small batch of wine.
00:07:38.660 It's not quite what we wanted.
00:07:40.040 So we dumped it, making some changes for the next batch, et cetera.
00:07:45.280 And the obvious question, how are sales?
00:07:49.000 Sales are pretty incredible.
00:07:50.160 It's been a pretty wild ride.
00:07:51.780 We, I think in our first 17 days, we hit our first million dollars in sales.
00:07:56.820 Last year, we did, you know, multiple, multiple millions in 2023.
00:08:02.800 And I think we're going to do the same again this year.
00:08:04.600 And again, the goal is to make sure that this becomes a forever brand that conservatives
00:08:08.640 can be proud of.
00:08:09.460 And we're, you know, all these big corporations, we go and give them our money for their products.
00:08:14.420 And they take our money and then they donate to all these super left-wing causes that oppose
00:08:21.060 and despise everything we believe in.
00:08:23.560 And we're funding that.
00:08:25.020 And so I want to do the opposite.
00:08:26.680 And so we're taking funds from this company and donating it to openly right-wing causes.
00:08:32.100 Some causes you'd probably appreciate, Roger.
00:08:34.160 Last year, we donated.
00:08:35.080 We fully funded a school board race with the 1776 Project PAC.
00:08:38.860 So we flipped a school board.
00:08:40.560 I'm very proud of that.
00:08:41.880 We gave $100,000 to the Trump electorate lawsuits in Georgia with Fannie Willis and all the nonsense
00:08:49.420 that's gone on there, along with other causes.
00:08:51.640 So again, we want to provide a great product.
00:08:54.000 We want to be the best beer possible in our market.
00:08:57.080 And we, but we're also a movement and we want to be out there fighting for the causes
00:09:00.980 that matter to our customers.
00:09:04.260 Troy, you have a question for Beer Baron Seth Weathers.
00:09:08.060 I love that.
00:09:09.140 Absolutely.
00:09:10.140 That's a hell of a nickname, I got to be honest.
00:09:12.440 So we have a couple of pictures here of the Dylan Mulvaney fiasco.
00:09:15.920 And we want to show those.
00:09:17.260 And so Seth can comment on these because, you know, this was a real slap in the face, I think,
00:09:23.400 to the country.
00:09:24.240 And I think the media, Seth, wants us to believe that this is a right thing.
00:09:28.500 And obviously, it's a right-wing beer, ultra right, obviously.
00:09:33.160 But I want you to kind of comment, like, the amount of people out there that drink beer
00:09:38.900 that are kind of fed up with what we're seeing on the screen right now, that extends far beyond
00:09:43.280 the political right, doesn't it?
00:09:45.100 No, it does.
00:09:45.760 And so we actually, we find ourselves, we have a lot of what would, I would say, more independent
00:09:49.740 minded individuals that also support our brand and like our beer as well.
00:09:53.520 Because, yeah, things have just gone too far.
00:09:55.540 And people are just, people are so afraid to say anything to upset the apple cart or
00:10:00.120 whatever that, you know, when you see an ad like the Dylan Mulvaney thing, there's people
00:10:03.520 that are still afraid to say, like, that's just weird.
00:10:06.600 That's just weird.
00:10:07.260 Why are you doing this?
00:10:08.620 And I think, you know, my goal with this is obviously to encourage a lot more people to
00:10:13.040 be bolder in their beliefs.
00:10:15.340 And, you know, when you sit down at the bar and the guy next to you is drinking ultra right,
00:10:19.800 it's funny just watching how those interactions go.
00:10:22.640 So, because oftentimes you'll see someone else like, hey, you know, they lean over,
00:10:26.780 they're like, they're whispering.
00:10:27.580 They're like, I really like that.
00:10:29.080 I agree with you.
00:10:29.740 And it's like, why are you whispering?
00:10:31.060 You're in a bar in Georgia, dude.
00:10:32.440 Like, it's going to be all right.
00:10:33.580 You can just say, hey, I'm a conservative or, hey, I think what's going on in the world
00:10:37.440 is weird.
00:10:38.280 And so, again, we're just constantly trying to embolden people.
00:10:40.880 And I think that that's part of what this brand is doing.
00:10:44.060 What has been the reaction to distributors?
00:10:47.300 In other words, have they been, have they embraced the beer?
00:10:51.220 Have they been cowardly?
00:10:52.880 How have they reacted to it?
00:10:54.840 It's been a mixed bag.
00:10:57.860 There's a lot of cowardly behavior going on, for sure, in the industry.
00:11:01.600 And, you know, the funny thing is, obviously, for the amount that we sell online,
00:11:04.360 you can go to ultrawightbeer.com and order yours and get it delivered every month.
00:11:08.860 Obviously, there's huge demand for it.
00:11:10.600 We have done distribution in multiple states and areas.
00:11:13.220 Because the biggest hurdle we have right now with the distribution, like for the beer
00:11:17.860 companies, you need a major chain, whether that's a gas chain or a grocer chain.
00:11:23.160 And having a grocer store that's brave enough to put a beer on the aisle with a very scary
00:11:28.960 word like conservative on it is obviously a hurdle that we have to get over.
00:11:33.160 But, you know, as time goes on, we're going to kind of force them into it just as we continue
00:11:37.480 to increase the demand and people are buying it elsewhere and going online and to avoid
00:11:42.160 these what corporations that are more than happy to put Ben and Jerry's, which is like
00:11:45.560 openly socialist, more than happy to put that on the aisle.
00:11:48.480 But they're afraid maybe of something for conservatives.
00:11:50.800 So it's just a matter of conservatives have got to continue fighting and saying, hey, we
00:11:54.160 want this.
00:11:54.680 We want our products.
00:11:55.540 We don't want to be left out.
00:11:56.780 Um, and I think it's just a little time and we'll get there.
00:12:01.040 Troy, you, we have about, uh, about a minute before we go to break.
00:12:05.140 Then when we come back, we'll have a bit more with our friend, beer baron, Seth Weathers.
00:12:10.660 Last question for you for this segment, Troy, go ahead.
00:12:14.540 Well, uh, what would your message be to anybody out there, uh, that takes this beer out and,
00:12:19.800 and, uh, they, they, I mean, cause I, I would, I would imagine like, do you get people
00:12:24.220 that reach out to you and say, Hey, you know, my beer was controversial at some kind of party
00:12:28.220 or something like that.
00:12:29.300 Or, you know, it was, uh, it started a conversation.
00:12:32.280 You must get a lot of people that, that, that bring this into say enemy territory and get
00:12:37.120 a hell of a response out of it.
00:12:38.780 You know, it's funny.
00:12:39.580 I mean, I hear mostly, I do hear like, Hey, it brought up a lot of conversation.
00:12:42.820 Everyone's talking about it, that kind of thing.
00:12:44.780 But as to like, you know, the controversial, like people bring it out, but you know, most of
00:12:49.200 the people that are going to have a problem with it, they're never going to say something
00:12:52.920 to the face of someone that drinks ultra, right?
00:12:54.760 That they have a problem with it.
00:12:56.100 They're going to get home.
00:12:57.080 They're going to put their panties on.
00:12:58.100 They're going to go down to their mom's basement and they're going to get on Twitter and their
00:13:01.440 fingers are going to get, get bold and brave.
00:13:03.740 And they're going to type out a response.
00:13:05.740 That's, that's what I typically see from the person that has an issue with our beer.
00:13:09.820 But I look forward to hearing from some of those that do you have an issue in person?
00:13:13.500 I just haven't had it happen yet.
00:13:16.140 All right.
00:13:16.660 We're going to go to a quick commercial break and we'll be back with more of Seth Weathers,
00:13:22.340 who's the founder of Ultra Ripe Beer, an American success story.
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00:15:41.780 Welcome back, folks.
00:15:43.100 If you're just tuning in, this is the Stone Zone.
00:15:45.800 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor of Slingshot.news.
00:15:51.280 And we're interviewing Seth Weathers, who is the entrepreneur, political, I would say,
00:15:59.180 recovering political consultant, who is the mastermind behind Ultra Right Beer.
00:16:07.120 I must say, when I saw this, I thought it was one of the greatest ideas I've ever seen.
00:16:11.920 And once I tasted it, I realized you were onto something.
00:16:15.800 I'd also realized that you have to survive the great bump of early publicity to become
00:16:22.260 a sustaining brand.
00:16:23.880 But you seem to have a pretty good plan to do that.
00:16:27.400 Let me, if I can, tap into your knowledge of Georgia politics for just a moment, if I can.
00:16:34.880 It appears to me, based on these announcements by the Georgia State Board of Elections last week,
00:16:41.120 that Fannie Will's case, which has as the underlying premise that Trump lost Georgia,
00:16:47.580 seems to be falling apart.
00:16:49.200 What say you?
00:16:51.120 Yeah, I think you're definitely right there.
00:16:52.800 And I have not followed this as much as I would have followed these things in the past,
00:16:56.500 as I'm working on the beer world over here.
00:16:58.900 But I do think that the case is falling apart.
00:17:01.600 I mean, it's such a, the whole thing was a catastrophe, pretty much from the start.
00:17:06.200 And you start coming out with giving her boyfriend almost a million dollars and all the other nonsense
00:17:11.380 that went on in that case.
00:17:13.380 And I think anything with Fannie Willis is going to fall apart.
00:17:16.180 It's one of the most poorly run offices in any state that I've seen,
00:17:21.500 when it comes to DA's office in any state.
00:17:23.600 It's truly unbelievable.
00:17:24.620 The situation in Atlanta is a mess.
00:17:26.360 Crime's a total mess in Atlanta.
00:17:28.020 And this is what they're focusing on right now.
00:17:30.360 And I think that there's, there's definite blowback on it.
00:17:32.980 She'll still win reelection here, just because of the way Fulton votes.
00:17:37.640 But nonetheless, I do think that there's definitely quite a bit of blowback.
00:17:40.640 And there's a lot of people, I think business leaders in Atlanta,
00:17:42.600 I hear from them more, even that maybe lean a little more on the Democrat side,
00:17:46.020 are pretty frustrated with how things are going.
00:17:49.420 All right, let's get back to beer, because it's much more interesting and a lot more fun.
00:17:52.940 And we've got another video here from Seth Weathers.
00:17:55.340 Let's roll that.
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00:18:53.620 That's a great, great ad.
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00:19:04.980 My guess is right about now, just about everyone wants one after this discussion.
00:19:10.440 So tell folks how that works.
00:19:14.120 Seth, can they order so it delivers every month?
00:19:18.080 How do you do it?
00:19:18.660 Yep.
00:19:19.280 We just launched a subscription option so that you can order.
00:19:22.080 You receive a pretty big discount on the beer when you get it that way.
00:19:24.640 So you'll have it delivered to your front door every month with your case of Ultra-Right beer.
00:19:28.660 We ship it by the case only now.
00:19:31.000 A little easier to do.
00:19:32.080 We're obviously learning a lot as we go in this process and jumping into this business.
00:19:36.740 We've been in business just a little over a year now, and obviously there's a lot of regulatory stuff and everything we have to go through.
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00:19:55.480 All right.
00:19:56.200 There you have it, folks.
00:19:57.600 My good friend Seth Weathers, a beer baron, entrepreneur, conservative, and a great American.
00:20:04.600 Thank you so much, Seth.
00:20:05.620 It's been good to see you.
00:20:06.820 God bless you.
00:20:08.180 Take care.
00:20:09.260 Thanks.
00:20:10.440 All right.
00:20:11.740 Now we've got to get back to what people come to the Stone Zone for, and that's politics.
00:20:17.740 Donald Trump's case in Manhattan goes to final arguments today.
00:20:24.380 Unclear how long that will take.
00:20:26.500 But I expect that both sides rested late last week.
00:20:31.600 We will have closing arguments from each side.
00:20:36.380 The president, I think, was surprised to learn that in any criminal trial in the United States, the way this works is the government gets to make its case against you.
00:20:47.820 During that, your lawyers get to cross-examine their witnesses.
00:20:52.660 Then you get to put on your defense.
00:20:56.100 During that, the government gets to cross-examine your witnesses.
00:21:01.620 And then the government gets a second shot at the ball.
00:21:05.540 In other words, they get the final word.
00:21:07.660 The president's absolutely right.
00:21:08.920 This seems extraordinarily unfair.
00:21:10.820 When I went through the Mueller Soviet-style show trial, in which they framed me, despite the fact that, much like Donald Trump, there was no underlying crime, I was shocked to learn that the government gets two chances to try to convict you, but you only get one chance to try to defend yourself.
00:21:30.400 It's extraordinarily unfair.
00:22:00.400 It's now, strangely enough, he says, all of the jurors do not need to agree unanimously on one predicate crime as long as some jurors agree with some predicate crime, which could be a tax fraud crime or a federal election commission crime and so on, that the president can be convicted.
00:22:29.780 It seems extraordinarily unfair to me, and I think it's going to seem unfair to the American people.
00:22:36.760 Well, Roger, my question to you would be, you know, we're heading into the final moments here of this trial, and the Democrats are really—I mean, I've never seen the public pressure campaign like we're seeing against Supreme Court Justice Alito right now.
00:22:52.020 And I find it interesting.
00:22:53.100 You highlighted this over the weekend.
00:22:55.000 It's why I wanted to ask you about it on your Twitter.
00:22:57.300 It's kind of interesting that the same people that are saying that Justice Alito must recuse himself because of some kind of flag controversy that seems to be completely contrived, that they're the same people that don't believe that Merchant should recuse himself.
00:23:10.820 Just his complications, we can call them, with the daughter advising most of the Democrats on Capitol Hill would seem to kind of destroy this case on its face, wouldn't it?
00:23:22.660 I think it's even worse than that, Troy.
00:23:25.940 So basically what they're saying is that because Judge Alito, the U.S. Supreme Court's wife, flew an upside-down American flag at their beach home in a local dispute with neighbors that evidently had nothing to do with politics, that he should now be forced to recuse himself from all matters pertaining to January 6th or Donald Trump.
00:23:50.560 That's ridiculous.
00:24:20.560 Pitch for her individual clients, including the Biden-Harris campaign, an obvious financial conflict of interest.
00:24:30.000 Yet the judge refuses to recuse himself, and the people do not seem to be appropriately in an uproar as they should be.
00:24:40.400 It is once again the two-tiered justice system.
00:24:43.780 Rules for thee, but not for me.
00:24:47.040 Well, and so my question to you, Roger, is we heard news this weekend that President Joe Biden is actually going to be holding some kind of public press conference after the final verdict is issued in this hush money case.
00:24:59.740 I wanted to get your reaction on that.
00:25:01.460 Do you think that that's an indication that they know what's going to happen or that anything could happen here?
00:25:06.920 I mean, what do you think that says about this situation?
00:25:08.880 Well, the first thing it obviously says is this case is entirely political.
00:25:13.740 I think it says that in spades.
00:25:16.000 You also wonder why Biden would be scheduling such a press conference or such a public statement if he didn't know if the results were going to be from the trial.
00:25:28.720 Well, if Trump is acquitted, which I think is unlikely, but anything is possible, or if there is a hung jury, which is more likely, although substantially less likely, considering these very strange rulings regarding the lack of unanimity regarding one specific underlying predicate charge,
00:25:51.840 how could the president know what's going to happen, will he just cancel his victory lap if the president is not convicted?
00:26:04.020 Well, that's what it looks like to me.
00:26:05.600 It looks like it's kind of highlighting the coordination.
00:26:08.380 I've said it on the show many times, and you've said it as well.
00:26:11.100 You know, there's coordination here between the Biden administration and not only, you know, Bragg and others in Manhattan, but also in Georgia as well.
00:26:20.780 And I think across the board, you know, there needs to be an investigation into the coordination between the Biden administration and all of these groups that are pursuing legal action against President Trump, wherever they may be.
00:26:33.600 Because I think the line between the Biden administration and these cases across the country, whether they come directly from the Justice Department or not, there are ties that link them basically to every single case.
00:26:47.020 Besides the documents case, which, you know, the public pressure campaign on Alito, I wanted to mention that before we really get out of the woods on that, Roger.
00:26:55.520 You know, I wanted to ask you, because you've seen this a long time, I've never seen right now the way that Supreme Court justices like Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito
00:27:05.340 are subject to a public pressure campaign the way that they are right now and Alito, it's such a contrived thing.
00:27:13.160 It's almost, you know, like you said, it's just ridiculous that they would even try to attack him over such a ridiculous thing or try to make that link.
00:27:22.180 Even there's no there's no link there. There's no basis for a connection, even in the first place.
00:27:29.060 But I've never seen. And I think this started with Joe Biden, really, at the State of the Union, where he was publicly, which he's not supposed to do, acknowledging the Supreme Court and kind of disparaging them in front of Congress.
00:27:42.040 Do you think Biden and the Democrats have entered a new era of really no rules or no holds barred when it comes to the Supreme Court?
00:27:49.680 They seem to be shattering all the rules.
00:27:52.320 You know, it used to be considered that our entire judiciary system was supposed to be nonpolitical.
00:27:58.580 That's clearly not the case.
00:28:00.740 If Joe Biden were reelected and they won control of the Senate, I've no question that they would try to do what Franklin Roosevelt tried to do, stack the Supreme Court with three more liberals.
00:28:11.500 So, yeah, unfortunately, everything is now political, including this pressure campaign, which I don't think is going to be successful to get Clarence Thomas or or Justice Alito to step down.
00:28:28.460 In the case of Thomas, their entire argument is that Thomas's wife has political opinions and therefore he shouldn't be on the court, which is, of course, ridiculous.
00:28:38.880 By the way, Ruth Bader Ginsburg viciously attacked Donald Trump while he was running for president.
00:28:45.860 And there was no cry to remove her from the court.
00:28:48.360 See, that's perfectly all right.
00:28:50.120 Once again, it is the two-tiered justice system writ large.
00:28:55.120 Troy, I have to ask you, did you get a chance to see any of the National Libertarian Party Convention on Saturday?
00:29:05.680 Absolutely.
00:29:06.460 We watched that very closely, Roger.
00:29:08.120 We posted, and I'm happy to report we had over a million views just on the day of Trump's speech on Saturday because we were putting out the clips on this.
00:29:17.380 And I thought it was one of the most bold things I've ever seen.
00:29:20.580 I mean, Trump kind of storms into the Libertarian Convention.
00:29:25.260 He tells them flat out, look, you can either support me or you can keep getting your 3% to 4%.
00:29:30.220 And he goes through the laundry list of the different reasons why the Libertarians should support him and why his platform aligns with the Libertarians more than a lot of the people that were trying to seek the nomination.
00:29:43.540 Now, eventually, he did not seek nomination for the Libertarian Party, but he was kind of trying to get support from their voters and their supporters that were there.
00:29:52.340 So we have a clip that we want to run where he's boldly talking about the Libertarians and their 3% to 4%.
00:29:59.040 I want to get your opinion on that coming out of the video, Roger, because I know for a while you were a Libertarian and a member of the Libertarian Party.
00:30:06.400 So let's roll that clip and get Roger's thoughts on the back end.
00:30:08.640 That's nice. That's nice.
00:30:16.360 Only if you want to win. Only if you want to win. Maybe you don't want to win.
00:30:22.240 Maybe you don't want to win.
00:30:26.280 Thank you, D-Roy.
00:30:28.680 Thank you. No, only do that if you want to win. If you want to lose, don't do that.
00:30:34.300 Keep getting your 3% every four years.
00:30:38.640 The reasons for doing so.
00:30:42.860 Absolutely amazing. Trump going into the lion's den.
00:30:46.500 Look, just on the war and peace issues alone, Trump would be the obvious choice for Libertarians.
00:30:52.440 He's the first president in modern times. He did not start any new wars.
00:30:56.200 This is one of the most important precepts.
00:31:00.060 So he is more in the mold of a Ron Paul.
00:31:03.260 Is he a perfect Libertarian? No.
00:31:05.620 But the candidate they did nominate, whose name escapes me at this moment, Chad, some of the other, seems to me like...
00:31:14.620 Chase Oliver.
00:31:15.340 Chase Oliver, pardon me.
00:31:16.920 He might be a nice enough fellow, but he seems to me to be a woke progressive.
00:31:21.320 I mean, he's for open borders.
00:31:23.080 He's for transgenderism for children.
00:31:26.420 These don't seem to be like Libertarian issues to me.
00:31:31.580 That thing was a clown show.
00:31:34.760 And then, frankly, I think, despite all the booing and the noise, much of which, of course, was paid for,
00:31:43.320 Trump, I think, grabbed the day by pledging to pardon Ross Ulbricht,
00:31:51.380 who, of course, is a prisoner of the deep state because of his activities on the deep web,
00:31:58.860 which don't seem to me to be terribly dangerous.
00:32:02.480 So I think, once again, Trump snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.
00:32:10.040 Well, and, Roger, the important thing to point out is that, and I wanted to ask you about this
00:32:14.200 because we've talked so much about RFK and his plan to get on the ballot, you know.
00:32:18.300 I really think that there was a push by the RFK people, an inept push, I should say,
00:32:24.040 to secure the Libertarian Party nomination.
00:32:26.280 Here's why.
00:32:27.200 We know that Nicole Shanahan was chosen because of her extreme wealth
00:32:31.520 and the fact that RFK needs money to run ballot initiatives across the country to try to get on the ballot.
00:32:36.780 Well, the Libertarian Party, I looked this up, has ballot access in 37 states,
00:32:41.400 many of which RFK Jr. does not have ballot access currently.
00:32:45.100 So I think they tried to downplay how badly he wanted this nomination.
00:32:50.200 But really, it was crucial, I think, in order for him to create the electoral map that he would need to potentially reach 270.
00:32:58.240 I don't think he would.
00:32:59.180 But this nomination, if he was nominated RFK to the Libertarian Party,
00:33:03.680 he could have possibly gotten ballot access in a lot of states that he doesn't have it.
00:33:08.220 But he was really destroyed.
00:33:10.840 I mean, he got only 2%, Roger, of the delegates there after putting his name on the list to become the nominee for the Libertarian Party.
00:33:20.120 What do you make of RFK's tremendous embarrassment at the Libertarian Convention?
00:33:25.280 I think that's a pretty good read.
00:33:27.720 First of all, Donald Trump could not contend for the Libertarian Party nomination
00:33:31.880 because state law will not allow him to be on the ballot as both the Republican and the Libertarian nominee.
00:33:39.200 There is no state that will do that.
00:33:42.560 The one state that would allow that is New York State, and the Libertarians have no permanent ballot position.
00:33:49.100 They're going to have a hard time getting on the ballot in New York State.
00:33:52.540 So, for those who say, why didn't Trump contend, he couldn't contend, party rules prohibited.
00:34:00.080 RFK, as an independent, has no such obstacles.
00:34:04.560 He could have contended.
00:34:06.420 He did, in fact.
00:34:07.680 And I think he was hoping to do better.
00:34:10.340 He needed this nomination.
00:34:12.580 Donald Trump did not need this nomination.
00:34:15.320 But given the far-left progressivism of the candidate they did nominate,
00:34:21.000 they, I think, have just determined that they're going to be irrelevant.
00:34:27.600 This probably was the best possible outcome for Donald Trump because there is no one who is going to vote for Trump who is now going to vote for Chase Oliver.
00:34:38.520 There may be people who are going to vote for Joe Biden who will vote for Chase Oliver,
00:34:43.040 but there is virtually no one who would have voted for Donald Trump voting for this fellow, Chase Oliver.
00:34:48.900 I was in the Libertarian Party for a couple of years.
00:34:53.720 When the Republican Party nominated Mitt Romney, that was so egregious to me that I left the party of Lincoln to join the party of the Libertarians.
00:35:05.960 I worked, I'm proud to say it, on Governor Gary Johnson's campaign.
00:35:10.440 This was in 2012, not 2016, for that nomination.
00:35:14.740 He was a very accomplished and libertarian-oriented governor in New Mexico.
00:35:20.500 He was the best candidate they've ever nominated.
00:35:23.820 It's interesting how CNN and the rest of the mainstream media really would give him no coverage whatsoever in 2012.
00:35:32.260 Then when the party re-nominated him in 2016, and the folks at CNN thought, well, maybe he's going to take votes from Donald Trump.
00:35:41.920 Now, suddenly, they gave him and his running mate their own town hall.
00:35:45.880 They gave them their own events.
00:35:49.640 They interviewed he and former Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld, who was his running mate, extensively.
00:35:56.160 So it's funny how you had a media blackout in 2012, but then you had a huge publicity and media access for the candidates in 2016 when the executives thought that it might hurt Donald Trump.
00:36:13.660 Well, and the idea that RFK would go into this convention, Roger, and I think it speaks to, we've talked about this before on the show, the lack of experience surrounding his campaign.
00:36:24.480 They're not doing things that are traditionally politically savvy, and I think it's a huge mistake and a blemish on their record that they failed to get this nomination.
00:36:33.680 It would have been huge for RFK's momentum heading into the election.
00:36:37.540 All right, we've got to go to a quick commercial break, and we'll be right back in the Stone Zone.
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00:37:00.060 After all the discussions and interviews with the locals, I went back to the lab, and I found that it was the most potent inhibitor of a switch called NF-kappa-B.
00:37:13.200 NF-kappa-B is normally dormant, and with oxidative stress, it migrates to the nucleus, and it regulates thousands of genes involved in inflammation, turning some on, turning some off.
00:37:25.880 And if you suppress NF-kappa-B, keep it inactive, which is what cat's claw does, then you're able to temper down all of that stress on the body.
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00:39:00.680 Troy, it was about a week ago that Robert De Niro was on The View, and he said that Trump supporters are violent and dangerous, and then he threatened to punch Donald Trump in the face.
00:39:12.620 Speaking of no self-awareness, now I understand that he is melted down again.
00:39:18.600 What can you tell us?
00:39:20.580 Well, Roger, unbelievable footage.
00:39:22.640 I mean, just unbelievable footage outside of the Trump hush money trial this morning.
00:39:27.240 As Robert De Niro, for some reason, I can't understand if he thinks that he's the guy that is in the movies.
00:39:33.340 I think that's what's going on here.
00:39:35.000 But he held a press conference today.
00:39:37.180 As if anybody cares what Robert De Niro has to say politically.
00:39:41.020 I was, like, dumbfounded when I saw that he's even holding a press conference.
00:39:45.240 I mean, seriously, this is a guy who pretends for a living.
00:39:47.800 Why does anybody care at all about his political opinion?
00:39:51.120 I don't know.
00:39:52.080 But we have footage here of his anti-Trump rant.
00:39:55.380 Now, keep in mind, folks, you can hear this in the background.
00:39:57.320 He's being booed by Trump supporters as he's trying to make this speech.
00:40:01.680 And it's kind of ironic because De Niro, who makes himself out to be Mr. New York, you know, because of his movie characters, I guess, is booed in New York.
00:40:11.780 While Trump was celebrated with one of the largest rallies in the history of the Bronx.
00:40:15.980 So let's roll the clip of crazy, demented Robert De Niro in New York City today being showered with booze.
00:40:25.660 Thank you.
00:40:27.320 I mean, this is really, even these people over here are kind of, it's kind of crazy.
00:40:37.820 It's really crazy.
00:40:39.160 And this, this thing, Donald Trump has created this.
00:40:44.780 He should be telling them not to do this.
00:40:47.800 But he's just, he wants to sow total, he wants to sow total chaos.
00:40:55.600 Which he's succeeding in some areas and places to do.
00:41:02.060 Anyway, beside all that, this is my neighborhood, downtown New York City.
00:41:07.220 I grew up here and feel at home in these streets.
00:41:11.240 I feel comfortable.
00:41:14.820 Unbelievable.
00:41:15.440 I can't even figure out what he was doing there.
00:41:17.140 Well, we have another clip, too, I want to roll to where he's talking more about Donald Trump and he's basically giving an endorsement to Joe Biden.
00:41:24.560 I mean, that's what this comes across as, Roger.
00:41:26.180 It's kind of like a campaign speech for Joe Biden.
00:41:28.020 I think maybe we should look into the finances or Mr. De Niro, figure out if he's getting any of that Merchan money or Biden money.
00:41:34.840 But let's roll the clip of De Niro essentially endorsing Joe Biden in the speech.
00:41:39.900 And that's why I've joined the Biden-Harris campaign, because the only way to preserve our freedoms and hold on to our humanity is to vote for Joe Biden for president.
00:41:52.340 Really.
00:41:55.900 We don't have a choice.
00:41:58.540 You know, for a guy who's an actor, that was not a very impressive performance, I must say.
00:42:03.780 I mean, first of all, he's joining the Biden-Harris campaign.
00:42:08.700 What does that mean, Roger?
00:42:09.640 I mean, is he is he like I said, is he being paid by them?
00:42:12.600 And who put him up to this?
00:42:13.840 He looks he's saying we don't have a choice.
00:42:15.640 It's almost like he's saying I don't have a choice.
00:42:17.660 I have to read this.
00:42:19.540 Maybe he's out of money.
00:42:20.560 Maybe he's fallen on hard times.
00:42:22.380 I don't know.
00:42:22.820 But very sad.
00:42:23.940 You know, you see movies like Casino and, you know, I don't think he's the real star that I that would go to Joe Pesci to me.
00:42:30.120 But I think he's, you know, he's a guy that's fallen from grace, Roger.
00:42:34.740 And, you know, I was born in 2000.
00:42:36.760 So most of his hallmark achievements as an actor came before I was even born.
00:42:41.200 And since I've been alive, you can't there are no good movies that involve Robert De Niro.
00:42:46.900 Everything he makes is basically an embarrassing failure.
00:42:50.440 And you're seeing a guy who I think maybe and you probably see this a lot with people that are kind of clinging to fame or whatever.
00:42:59.260 You know, the Robert De Niro's of the world, they're almost using this Trump thing as, oh, maybe this will be my next career in resurgence.
00:43:07.260 Or maybe it's just that they watch MSNBC all day and they actually believe the lies that they hear.
00:43:12.460 It's sad to see what this stuff does to people, Roger, overall.
00:43:16.440 We have on the flip side of that, we have a statement from President Donald Trump this morning outside of his trial as the closing arguments are delivered.
00:43:23.640 Let's take a look at that clip.
00:43:24.640 Well, thank you very much, everybody.
00:43:28.240 Make no mistake about it.
00:43:30.460 I'm here because of crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country.
00:43:36.480 He's destroying our country.
00:43:38.080 This country is being destroyed rapidly, not slowly, rapidly, on the borders, on energy, on inflation, on everything you can name.
00:43:47.020 Afghanistan removal, everything about what he's done.
00:43:51.520 He's destroying our country.
00:43:53.440 And he's also destroying it with weaponization.
00:43:56.140 And this is purely his weaponization.
00:43:59.280 See who's in the courtroom.
00:44:00.680 You go, just see who's in the courtroom.
00:44:02.880 You'll see.
00:44:03.800 And you'll see where they come from.
00:44:05.400 And if you report it accurately, a lot of people are going to be very upset.
00:44:09.640 But this is all election hunting, election interfering.
00:44:15.160 It's going after Joe Biden's political opponent because he can't do it himself.
00:44:20.440 And they're helping out.
00:44:22.080 And we have a judge who's highly conflicted.
00:44:24.960 He happens to be corrupt.
00:44:26.840 It's the worst confliction.
00:44:28.460 It's the worst that anybody's seen.
00:44:31.520 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
00:44:34.120 It can't even be the prospect of an impropriety.
00:44:38.900 And it's a shame.
00:44:40.320 Wall Street Journal editorial for today, Alvin Bragg has improved this case in the Trump trial.
00:44:45.320 The evidence shows why the charges should never have been brought.
00:44:49.500 After 20 days in court and a trial transcript of 4,000 pages, the missing piece is still the missing piece.
00:44:56.880 There is no crime.
00:44:59.300 Wall Street Journal.
00:45:00.800 Jonathan Durley, a classic closing page by the lawyers, is to use a physical object like a three-legged stool.
00:45:07.720 If any three-legged stool is missing and any leg is missing, the stool absolutely collapses.
00:45:14.860 Even a cursory review of the evidence shows that this case does not have a leg to stand on.
00:45:20.880 This is a case without a leg to stand on.
00:45:23.900 This is Jonathan Durley.
00:45:25.080 The case against Trump should end in a very strong not guilty, not guilty, I don't know these people, but they're great legal scholars.
00:45:36.140 Greg Jarrett, every defendant, has the fundamental right to be informed of the nature of the cause of the accusation against him, but Bragg never abided by that constitutional guarantee.
00:45:48.400 Even worse, Mershon let him get away with it.
00:45:52.220 He let Bragg get away with it, a trial that Bragg didn't want to put.
00:45:56.360 And he should have done it seven years ago if they were going to do it.
00:45:58.900 They should have brought this case seven years ago, not in the middle of my presidential election.
00:46:02.660 We're leading by a lot, Biden, by a lot.
00:46:06.580 They brought it right in the middle of the election.
00:46:08.340 Hopefully it doesn't work out for them.
00:46:12.440 Troy, we're going to go to a quick commercial break and we're going to come up and wrap it up.
00:46:16.920 We do have some breaking news.
00:46:19.400 Judge Eileen Kanin has denied the government's request for a gag order on Donald Trump in the so-called documents case.
00:46:28.040 We'll be right back to talk about that.
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00:48:35.560 Welcome back, folks.
00:48:37.040 I'm Roger Stone.
00:48:38.400 Do you remember several months ago when AT&T's cell phone system went down and millions of people were stranded,
00:48:45.360 meaning they couldn't communicate with their loved ones, business partners, or for emergency services?
00:48:52.240 Cell networks are exceedingly fragile, and they are a target for hackers, terrorists, and the like.
00:48:59.640 If your cell phone goes down, how will you communicate?
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00:49:28.360 Now, this cell phone cannot be tracked.
00:49:31.000 It is 100% secure.
00:49:33.860 That's why it's trusted by the U.S. military and government officials everywhere.
00:49:38.840 It covers, as I said, 100% of the Earth.
00:49:43.000 I really love my Iridium 955 phone.
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00:50:07.100 Now, many people have asked me, well, if the electricity goes down, how do you recharge your Iridium phone?
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00:50:21.760 Check it out, folks.
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00:50:40.920 Again, let's put that back up if we could.
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00:50:55.660 Troy, let's wrap it up.
00:50:57.200 Here we got about seven more minutes.
00:50:58.780 We have some breaking news in the documents case.
00:51:04.800 Wanted to get your thoughts on that because, as anybody who's been paying attention knows, Andrew Weissman, all these people have been just attacking Judge Cannon in Florida
00:51:14.860 and really doing everything they can to mount a public pressure campaign.
00:51:18.700 It was followed up by this request by Jack Smith to place a gag order on President Trump.
00:51:23.920 What can you tell us?
00:51:24.760 Well, evidently, the judge rejected the gag order.
00:51:30.020 It's really been quite extraordinary.
00:51:32.640 The government wants to try Donald Trump in secrecy.
00:51:36.560 They want essentially all of the documents or most of them to be redacted.
00:51:41.260 That way, the American people would never know what documents is this entire controversy about.
00:51:47.340 Now, President Trump's lawyers have argued that his handling of presidential documents is governed by the Presidential Documents Act.
00:51:56.660 Duh.
00:51:57.600 Yet, the government is trying to charge Donald Trump for retaining documents, which they say is under a national security, a national espionage law.
00:52:11.360 There's no espionage here.
00:52:12.840 There's no evidence that Donald Trump shared any presidential, top secret, or classified documents with any foreign power.
00:52:21.060 Joe Biden, on the other hand, without any question, did illegally retain documents when he was a U.S. senator and when he was vice president
00:52:30.340 because the Presidential Records Act, pardon me, the Presidential Documents Act does not empower vice presidents.
00:52:38.600 It's another classic example of the two-tier justice system.
00:52:43.860 Now, the judge has refused to gag Trump.
00:52:48.680 In this case, Smith's argument, which I read, was that Trump was endangering law enforcement by criticizing them, yet he doesn't name any of the people.
00:53:00.600 Trump's lawyers actually came back very strong on this.
00:53:04.500 They filed an excellent response.
00:53:07.100 And, well, I imagine Andrew Weissman is having a hissy fit right now.
00:53:11.620 The other weird argument here, of course, is that it's unfair for Trump to stand trial in front of a judge that was appointed by Donald Trump.
00:53:22.720 Yet the Russian collusion hoax was born in Barack Obama's office.
00:53:27.980 He was the major progenitor of it.
00:53:30.260 Yet I and General Flynn, Paul Manafort, we all went to trial in front of a judge appointed by who else?
00:53:37.080 Barack Obama.
00:53:38.260 That was perfectly all right.
00:53:39.700 Once again, the two-tiered justice system writ large.
00:53:44.160 Well, and Roger, in your own case, you combated these gag orders as well, these unconstitutional gag orders.
00:53:50.760 And it went as far as with you to extend to your supporters.
00:53:54.460 So for you, having been subject to gag orders that I believe are unconstitutional, I think most lawyers would agree, to see this struck down has to be kind of special for you.
00:54:05.820 I wish I had seen it struck down in my case.
00:54:08.720 In my case, we went to the D.C. Court of Appeals arguing exactly that, that the gag order was unconstitutional.
00:54:16.020 Nowhere does it say in the law that if you're charged with a crime, you forfeit your free speech rights.
00:54:21.920 In fact, they're more important than ever.
00:54:23.480 In fact, the gag orders that are contemplated are supposed to protect not the government, not the prosecutors, but to protect the accused.
00:54:33.940 In my case, the D.C. Court of Appeals sat on my writ of mandamus for eight long months while I suffered incredible damage at the hands of MSNBC and CNN and the rest of the fake news jackals.
00:54:51.160 I was glad to see the judge rule this way.
00:54:54.780 You will not get such a ruling if the D.C. case goes to court.
00:55:00.080 But it's very important to recognize that there is a pending motion in the Florida case, in the documents case, in which Trump's lawyers have questioned the legitimacy of Jack Smith's appointment.
00:55:14.940 Former Attorney General Ed Meese, who served in the Reagan administration, was one of Ronald Reagan's closest and oldest advisors, and two very prominent college law professors, who are not Trump supporters, have filed an amicus brief with the U.S. Supreme Court saying that because Smith's appointment was never confirmed by the United States Senate, it is illegal.
00:55:40.280 And, of course, if the court were to find that, then all of these indictments would be voided.
00:55:47.820 So if Judge Cannon rules that that is the case, the government will, of course, appeal that to the U.S. Supreme Court, and we may finally get this adjudicated.
00:55:58.180 It's interesting to me that during the hearings on immunity and Trump's appeal to the Supreme Court based on the principle that he has immunity as a former president, Judge Clarence Thomas specifically asked Trump's lawyers whether they would be raising this issue in D.C.
00:56:19.000 And he said no.
00:56:49.000 overseeing a destruction of really the world order, the United States, really dominance on the world stage.
00:56:57.600 He's kind of destroying that.
00:56:58.940 And I had the great honor of joining you on your W.A.B.C. show this weekend to discuss what's going on in Iran.
00:57:06.380 And specifically, Roger, I wanted to bring this up because it kind of ties my appearance and what we talked about on W.A.B.C.
00:57:13.160 We have a video. Now, for those who don't realize this, President Joe Biden months ago announced that his administration would be building a humanitarian pier in Gaza.
00:57:23.760 The administration has been pressured by members of Congress over this.
00:57:29.360 They've they've they've they've said, well, you're technically you have boots on the ground over there because not only are they building the pier, but they've also reportedly been firing into Gaza at people who are trying to hurt them while they're building this this pier.
00:57:42.280 Or at least that's what they're saying, Roger. And we got footage over the weekend that we need to show here of that pier floating out into the sea.
00:57:50.640 And there's actually reports that it's sinking. It basically is completely useless.
00:57:54.840 And not only that, Roger, it's cost hundreds of millions of dollars, at least three hundred million dollars.
00:58:00.480 So let's roll the clip of the Biden administration, three hundred million dollar pier drifting off into the sea in Gaza.
00:58:24.840 Yeah. Well, we're almost we're almost out of time here.
00:58:39.780 Let's just sum that one up. Those are your tax dollars at work.
00:58:43.740 Why Joe Biden continues to fund both sides of the conflict in the Middle East, why he has unfrozen more than one hundred billion dollars in assets for the Iranians is really beyond belief.
00:58:58.940 Unfortunately, Troy, we're out of time, but we'll be back tomorrow right here on the Stone Zone with more of what you love, because we are the place for politics.
00:59:08.520 Until tomorrow, I'm Roger Stone. He's Troy Smith. This is the Stone Zone. God bless you and Godspeed.
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