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Summary

Roger Stone and Troy Smith join me to discuss the impact of Hurricane Milton on the Keystone State and the impact it can have on the mid-term election. Plus, a look at what's going on on the ground in Pennsylvania and why it's so important for the Republican primary candidates to win on mail-in ballots in order to have a shot at winning on November 5th. Thanks to everyone for all your support, stay safe out there in the storm and don't miss this one! - The Stone Zone, with Roger Stone Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone is a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host, Roger Stone. This is the most informative political show on the air. Join me today to break down the latest political news and to focus on the latest in the Keystone state. The Stonezone with my co-host, Troy Smith. Troy Smith, who has been actively preparing for the hurricane and helping his neighbors do the same, but he joins us now as Hurricane Milton comes barreling towards Florida. I hope you're doing the same! - My friend, my friend, Troy. - Thank you for listening to the Stone Zone and stay safe in the Storm Zone, and stay tuned for the latest on the storm in the latest from the Stonezone. . Thank you, my friends. Your support is so appreciated. Roger and I appreciate it. Timestamps: - 5:00-7:00 - 8:30-9:30 - What s going on in the midterms? 11:15-11: 13:00 15:30 16:15 - Why Pennsylvania is crucial? 17:40 - Who are the most important state in Pennsylvania? 18: What are you looking forward to win in November? 19:40-16: What do you think about the midterm election? 21:00+ 22:20 - What are your thoughts on the Pennsylvania primary? 23:00 +3:00s - How do you feel about it?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:06.820 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:10.840 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:16.460 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:20.420 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:26.880 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:32.860 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:40.620 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:45.740 This is the most informative political show on the air.
00:00:49.600 Joining me today to break down the latest political news and to focus on the Keystone State is my co-host, Troy Smith.
00:00:59.200 Troy has been actively preparing for the hurricane and helping his neighbors do the same,
00:01:05.100 but he joins us now as Hurricane Milton comes barreling down towards Florida.
00:01:11.780 Troy, welcome back in the zone.
00:01:14.080 Roger, we are hunkered down here, and I hope you're doing the same, my friend.
00:01:17.100 I hope you stay safe during the storm.
00:01:18.520 Well, you know, I have relatives in the direct path.
00:01:21.960 One thing I do want to say, and that is General Michael Flynn, an America's general, and his extended family's homes are all in the direct path of the hurricane as currently projected.
00:01:33.360 So I call on everyone in the Stone Zone audience out there to pray for General Flynn, his safety, the safety of his entire family.
00:01:42.600 Spoke to him this morning.
00:01:43.700 All right, with the events of North Carolina, with the western part of the state being decimated by a hurricane,
00:01:52.780 electorally, of course, putting aside our prayers for those people who are still struggling thanks to the fumbling of FEMA,
00:02:01.580 Pennsylvania becomes more important.
00:02:04.540 Pennsylvania is, in fact, crucial.
00:02:07.040 Many of us have thought that Pennsylvania was crucial from the beginning.
00:02:12.860 There's nobody better to talk about what's going on on the ground in Pennsylvania than our good friend Cliff Maloney.
00:02:20.640 Cliff has been running the Pennsylvania Chase quite successfully, I might add, and he joins us now from the ground in Pennsylvania.
00:02:30.560 Roger, thanks for having me, as always. Looking forward to a big win, November 5th.
00:02:37.020 Well, Cliff, I've got to hand it to you.
00:02:38.700 From the beginning, you told me that we had to get at least one-third of the mail-in ballots had to be Republicans,
00:02:47.620 which everybody said in the beginning, that's a total order.
00:02:50.280 That's never been done. We could never do that.
00:02:52.620 But you and Scott Pressler and other key operatives on the ground in Pennsylvania, you actually came in slightly higher.
00:03:00.380 So I want to congratulate you right out of the bat for that.
00:03:03.840 Yeah, those projections are pretty awesome to see.
00:03:06.280 You know, I announced it here on your show probably six months ago, Roger, you know,
00:03:09.920 that we get 20 percent on average for our statewide candidates in Pennsylvania.
00:03:14.840 And listen, if Trump gets 33 percent, he can't lose.
00:03:18.340 Let me say that again for all the people in the Stone Zone watching here.
00:03:21.120 If Trump gets 33 percent of the share of mail-in votes compared to Harris getting, you know, 67 percent,
00:03:28.720 he cannot lose because of the Republican turnout models are off the charts.
00:03:33.460 We could even win with a 25, 26, 27.
00:03:36.880 But I don't want to just, you know, make it competitive, right?
00:03:39.680 We're trying to solve the problem.
00:03:41.620 And I think a lot of times Republicans, they want to toss Band-Aids on.
00:03:45.620 You know, Roger, you know, you're a man of solutions.
00:03:47.920 That's what we're trying to do is to figure out a way to solve this.
00:03:51.120 And right now, we are projected that if it was to be held today based on the mail-in ballot requests, we'd land at about 33, 34 percent.
00:03:58.840 So we're going to keep fighting.
00:04:00.500 And I'm sure Democrats will pile on late.
00:04:03.200 But if we compete with these mail-in ballots, that is the only way we win Pennsylvania.
00:04:08.500 And we feel like our PHA's plan has had a significant impact on that.
00:04:13.840 Well, the thing I like about your operation is you don't stop just when they mail in for the ballot.
00:04:19.420 You're going to chase the ballots.
00:04:20.820 You're going to make sure that everybody who sent a mail-in ballot mails it back in.
00:04:25.700 And I think this is where, to some extent, we have failed in the past.
00:04:29.900 And, of course, you were extraordinarily active when it came to registrations.
00:04:34.520 So I'm feeling good about Pennsylvania.
00:04:36.860 I'll be honest with you.
00:04:37.440 I wouldn't be feeling good if you and your many patriots were not on the ground.
00:04:42.880 This is maybe the most vibrant, grassroots political operation, certainly in the history of Pennsylvania, maybe in the history of the country.
00:04:53.160 You and others who we've given credit to on this show really will be the fathers of victory if things go as they appear they're going to.
00:05:02.540 And, of course, with North Carolina, and I spoke to one of the folks in the Trump campaign there this morning, we still don't have a solution as to how those people in the western part of the state are going to vote.
00:05:16.360 Now, Troy and I had an excellent session on this on the Stone Zone the other day.
00:05:21.720 Of 100 counties, roughly 29 of them are affected, of which 27 are deep red counties, counties where we must get our margin.
00:05:32.620 There's one county, big county, Buncombe, which is Asheville, where the Democrats may be hurt.
00:05:38.660 But we saw David Axelrod, by the way, after he made millions and millions of dollars on Barack Obama, why does David Axelrod continue to dress like a homeless person?
00:05:50.540 I just don't get it.
00:05:51.740 Anyway, I don't want to get distracted.
00:05:54.040 He actually boasted that wealthy, more intelligent voters in Asheville will figure out how to vote.
00:06:02.360 But those hillbillies, essentially, in the other western counties, they're screwed.
00:06:07.560 I hope that's not true, but I don't know the solution to this problem.
00:06:11.540 The point of it is, and we'll focus on North Carolina tomorrow or the following day, Pennsylvania becomes now even more crucial than it was before, no?
00:06:23.460 Yeah, and let me just back up one of the things you said, Roger.
00:06:26.300 You know, you said it's not just about getting them to request the ballot, it's also about getting them to submit it by chasing it.
00:06:33.080 Let me just share metrics with you from 2020.
00:06:35.200 Democrats had a return rate of 10% greater than Republicans.
00:06:40.220 So out of all the Democrats that requested a mail-in ballot in 2020, if you compare that to the Republicans that requested a ballot in 2020, they had a 10% return rate.
00:06:50.760 And why is that?
00:06:52.140 Because the PHAs didn't exist.
00:06:54.980 Scott Pressler wasn't working the ground.
00:06:57.260 Turning Point Action wasn't using their C4 to really understand these new rules.
00:07:02.760 That's all changed.
00:07:03.680 We have full synergy in 2024.
00:07:06.400 From the party to Turning Point to PHAs to early vote action with Scott, we're all flooding the ground game to actually do what's needed to be able to win.
00:07:17.480 And, Roger, the results have been off the charts.
00:07:19.460 Let me give you real numbers.
00:07:20.620 These aren't polls.
00:07:21.600 These aren't pundits.
00:07:22.500 Right now in the state of Pennsylvania, if you compare mail-in ballot requests from 2020 at this time versus today, Democrats are down 439,000.
00:07:37.840 Republicans, we're only down 78,000.
00:07:41.400 That is just off the charts, the most important number when you're looking at a real projection of who could win PA.
00:07:49.000 Now, listen, real quick.
00:07:50.080 We're coming out of COVID.
00:07:51.720 I understand there's going to be a drop-off.
00:07:53.760 People expected a severe drop-off.
00:07:56.620 Democrats are still beating us at raw requests.
00:07:59.300 We expect that, but for them to only – for us to only be down 78,000 and them to be down 439,000 in a state that we only lost by 80,000 votes, they're running out of steam.
00:08:13.900 There's no energy.
00:08:15.400 They're paying twice as many people.
00:08:17.060 They're spending twice as much money, and they're getting half the results.
00:08:21.920 If I'm you, I'm very optimistic about Trump winning PA, and as we know, we win PA the path to the White House as Donald Trump returning come inauguration.
00:08:33.020 Excellent.
00:08:33.840 I have a difficult question coming up, but, Troy, you get the next question for our guest, Cliff Maloney from the Pennsylvania Chase.
00:08:42.120 Absolutely, Cliff.
00:08:43.040 I wanted to ask you, you know, you talk a lot about the synergy of the Republican Party and how we're all kind of working together, and it's all – it's an effort.
00:08:50.340 And I think people at home are kind of hearing a contrasting message on the mainstream news.
00:08:54.960 They're saying that, oh, the Republicans are – it's all about Trump.
00:08:58.680 And what you're describing, this would lead to Republican gains not only in the White House but in the Senate, in the House.
00:09:06.840 And this is a model that can be used across the country.
00:09:08.960 So what you're describing is really the road forward, not some kind of dead end like the media is portraying, right?
00:09:14.940 Yeah, it's been pretty fascinating to read these stories, and it's interesting to see how they try to twist your words and, you know, try to put people in positions of just completely fabricating what you said to fit this narrative.
00:09:29.620 Look, at the end of the day, this is the first time ever that Republicans have come together with 501c4 organizations, with PACs, with county committees, with campaigns at every level.
00:09:40.160 And so I would defend it tooth and nail that this is the first time you're seeing actual synergy where it's legal, okay?
00:09:48.680 There are certain targets and data you can share between PACs and parties.
00:09:52.840 You have to be careful.
00:09:54.060 So obviously, we're doing it all compliantly.
00:09:56.160 But all the data sharing between Charlie Kirk, me, and Scott Pressler, all the data sharing between our other partners on the ground in Pennsylvania and in other states where we've got different chapters and different folks working together,
00:10:08.880 this is what the Democrats do, okay?
00:10:11.400 We're not creating some new strategy, right?
00:10:14.120 As Rogers says, losers don't legislate.
00:10:16.940 This is the first time we're actually trying to win, in my mind, by putting a strategy together that says we're going to utilize the current rules, even if we don't like them.
00:10:25.920 We're not here to advocate that mail-in ballots are great, but we're not going to forfeit the election.
00:10:30.620 I'm not going to surrender to Kamala Harris and the corrupt unit party because we don't like the rules in my home state of Pennsylvania.
00:10:37.360 No, you adapt, you come up with a plan, and you go fight to win.
00:10:42.320 So I think all those reports are complete BS.
00:10:45.480 I think I'm seeing the most synergy I've ever seen on the right.
00:10:49.080 Are there a growing pain?
00:10:50.160 Sure.
00:10:50.920 But the left has their own problems.
00:10:52.660 Look at their mail-in ballot request numbers compared to us.
00:10:56.180 Compare those requests and then tell me who has a better ground game.
00:11:00.100 I'll take our numbers all day over what they're producing.
00:11:03.860 All right, Cliff, a difficult question.
00:11:07.660 Maybe you're not the right person to ask, but it's a good place to start.
00:11:11.840 It's election night.
00:11:13.940 We're in Philadelphia, and the count is ongoing.
00:11:17.840 The Democrats controlled the machinery.
00:11:20.620 They have the Republican observers removed from the count room using the local police if necessary.
00:11:26.560 They shut down, claiming that they're going to stop counting, and in fact, they start dumping in paper ballots.
00:11:33.540 Hypothetical?
00:11:34.280 Maybe.
00:11:34.720 Or maybe it happened last time.
00:11:36.460 What do the Republicans do if that happens this time?
00:11:39.220 Yeah, so I think the biggest way to avoid any type of fraud or any type of fear that it is a stolen election is to make sure that the amount that we win by is too big to rig.
00:11:53.300 I am a believer in that.
00:11:54.300 Now, listen, to be clear, of course, I would use every letter of the law to go after these corrupt individuals.
00:12:00.860 I'm not saying you wouldn't take legal action, right?
00:12:02.740 But I'm saying to avoid a scenario where it's easy for them to cheat, you have to make it too big to rig.
00:12:08.200 And here's where I define that.
00:12:10.060 So I can tell you from experience, with these new sets of laws in Pennsylvania, there really is a precedent, but there's not.
00:12:18.620 And right now, these mail-in ballots, the problem is any of them that aren't signed or they don't have the correct date or they don't have a secrecy envelope, they get put into what we call a provisional pile.
00:12:30.520 So they don't count, but they get put in a provisional pile.
00:12:34.240 And what happens, Roger, is after the election, these Democrats will take them to the courts.
00:12:40.340 Each batch in each county will get its own trial and its own decision, its own appeal process.
00:12:46.900 And the problem is our judicial system is weak, not necessarily just Democrat.
00:12:51.160 There are some Republicans, as you know, Roger, that are just as weak.
00:12:54.300 They're afraid of being called a conspiracy theorist or they don't want to have – they don't want to be disenfranchising voters.
00:13:01.820 It's complete BS.
00:13:03.120 Vote the right way and follow the rules.
00:13:04.780 That's a legal vote.
00:13:05.640 So my answer to you is if we win the election by 500,000 votes and there are 200,000 provisionals, even if they're bringing them back from everybody that went out in Philly and Pittsburgh, they don't have enough to overturn it.
00:13:20.260 They don't have enough to rig it.
00:13:21.940 But if we win by 50,000 votes and they have 450,000 of these mail-in ballots that somehow came back, that's where you have a problem.
00:13:31.460 And so to me, we cannot expect to win this in the courts.
00:13:34.640 We have to jam the system on Election Day, jam the system with our mail-in ballots in red counties, and make it too big to rig.
00:13:43.760 That's an excellent answer.
00:13:46.360 I was criticized because some months ago I said that you needed to have the phone number for a judge after hours.
00:13:56.580 Headline, Stone says Trump has judges in his pocket.
00:14:01.700 That's not what I said.
00:14:02.640 What I said is that every federal judicial district appoints one judge overnight to be the duty judge.
00:14:10.800 That way, if an emergency motion needs to be filed on any matter, an election matter, usually they're medical matters, parents fighting over the treatment of their children in hospitals and so on, well, then you can find a judge in order to file an emergency motion.
00:14:28.780 Of course, it doesn't mean that the motion would be granted, but that's the legal process has nothing to do with the judge putting their thumb on the scale, has nothing to do with the judges being biased in any way.
00:14:39.780 But in Pennsylvania, when exactly what I described happened in the last presidential election, the local Republicans didn't know how to contact the duty judge, which is a formal process.
00:14:54.560 It just shows you how distorted the entire fake mainstream media is.
00:15:01.760 Well, Cliff, I think you guys are doing an amazing job.
00:15:05.140 I think you're going to emerge as the heroes of election night.
00:15:08.200 I know you're not doing it for that purpose.
00:15:11.260 If people want to support you, if people want to send a few bucks to get a few more people on the ground to work your important program, where can they go?
00:15:19.220 Yeah, I appreciate that, Roger.
00:15:21.820 You can follow me for updates on X at Maloney.
00:15:25.400 And if folks want to chip in, it's $175 to sponsor a full day of ballot chasing.
00:15:31.020 They can do that at pachase.com.
00:15:33.660 I just want to be clear, 100% of that money goes to the ballot chasers' pay, their housing, and their gas.
00:15:40.800 There's no commissions.
00:15:41.820 There's no margins.
00:15:43.480 pachase.com.
00:15:44.480 I'm really asking the Stone Zone, if you guys can help us get fully funded with these sponsors for our student ballot chasers, pachase.com.
00:15:53.440 We're going to do the work to win on November 5th, but that work started back on September 1.
00:15:58.840 This is election month, election month.
00:16:01.480 And if we win PA, we win the White House.
00:16:03.880 Roger, you're a hero, mentor, patriot.
00:16:06.140 Appreciate you spreading the truth.
00:16:08.420 All right.
00:16:08.860 There he is, folks.
00:16:10.080 Cliff Maloney on the ground in Pennsylvania, grinding it out.
00:16:13.820 Every time I send him a text saying, Cliff, how's it going?
00:16:16.820 He says, we're right here, and we're grinding it out.
00:16:19.420 I love that.
00:16:20.280 God bless you, my friend.
00:16:21.520 Thank you for everything you're doing to save this country.
00:16:24.360 And welcome back before the election to give us an update.
00:16:28.100 We'd love to hear it.
00:16:29.660 We'll do that.
00:16:30.480 Take care, y'all.
00:16:32.020 All right, folks.
00:16:33.160 That was Cliff Maloney.
00:16:34.860 This is, without any question, I've watched very clearly what they're doing.
00:16:38.700 It's the most impressive, on-the-ground, grassroots, volunteer, and paid operation.
00:16:45.220 And as Cliff pointed out, there's no big overhead.
00:16:48.540 These guys aren't doing it for huge salaries.
00:16:50.500 They don't have unlimited expenses accounts.
00:16:53.020 When you give, you're paying to put another person on the ground.
00:16:58.100 And these are not the most luxurious of work circumstances.
00:17:02.760 These guys are living in cheap motels.
00:17:04.920 They are eating at McDonald's.
00:17:07.900 They're doing the job, though.
00:17:09.540 If victory is ours on election night, and I think it will be, much of it will be due to
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00:18:50.460 All right, Troy, there's a lot going on in the political world.
00:18:53.540 We have to catch up.
00:18:54.600 Yesterday, I had to kind of scramble because I had flown from the West Coast, where I spoke
00:19:01.780 to one of the most vibrant Republican women's groups in the country right there in Palm Desert.
00:19:08.260 It was 109 degrees.
00:19:10.820 I'm not exaggerating, 109 degrees.
00:19:14.820 Extraordinary turnout.
00:19:16.480 And I'm glad to be back in the Sunshine State, but we are, like you, preparing for the worst
00:19:22.640 and praying for the best as Hurricane Milton comes barreling towards Florida.
00:19:28.440 It's about time they named a hurricane after Milton Berle.
00:19:31.360 Well, I'm happy about that, but otherwise, let's get right into the political news.
00:19:36.560 Well, Roger, you know, you were the victim of probably the most egregious political persecution
00:19:42.140 to that point that we had seen in the United States when the FBI sent a dozen or so armed
00:19:49.380 agents to your house with automatic weapons, pointing them in the face of you and your wife
00:19:54.500 and your dogs, for nonviolent crimes.
00:19:57.700 They sent submarine units.
00:19:59.200 They basically treated you as if you were one of the most dangerous people in America.
00:20:04.360 When we know, based on their own indictment, that they were charging you for process crimes
00:20:08.680 and not even colluding with anybody, just basic process crimes that they had basically
00:20:13.940 fabricated throughout the case.
00:20:15.160 So during that, you know, when the FBI tried to get your phone, Roger, they asked Apple
00:20:22.000 through a warrant to unlock your iCloud.
00:20:25.560 So your device was used by Apple and the government.
00:20:29.840 They handed it right over to them.
00:20:31.300 And as you see in this article that I pulled, they state Apple has handed over the data from
00:20:37.240 his, being you, iCloud account in accordance with a warrant.
00:20:40.760 So Apple has a history here of handing over things that, you know, concern you.
00:20:47.340 And that's why I wanted to ask you about this statement from former President Trump
00:20:51.040 on the flagrant podcast recently, in which he stated that Apple should be punished because
00:20:56.600 they are reportedly refusing to unlock the cell phones of both Ryan Ruth and Thomas Matthew
00:21:01.900 Crooks, who were the attempted assassins against President Trump.
00:21:05.820 So we have a clip from the podcast of Trump talking about that.
00:21:08.860 And when we come back, I want to get Roger's thoughts on Apple's, you know, they claim
00:21:13.560 to be the strong company with morals, but when it comes to Roger Stone, they had no problem
00:21:17.340 handing over the keys to the castle.
00:21:19.020 Let's roll that.
00:21:20.440 So here's the break.
00:21:21.560 So you have this shooter and you have another shooter, right?
00:21:25.700 So this shooter had three or so cell phones.
00:21:32.680 The FBI has never gotten them opened.
00:21:35.420 Wow.
00:21:35.860 The other shooter, three apps, they call them.
00:21:39.140 And I believe they were foreign based apps, from what I understand.
00:21:44.180 Oh, wow.
00:21:44.780 They haven't opened them and they're foreign based.
00:21:47.020 And, you know, you hear all about Iran because I was rough with Iran, but I want to see Iran
00:21:51.320 do great.
00:21:51.940 I want to see Iran do great.
00:21:53.440 Yeah.
00:21:53.660 But I want to stop all the killing and all this.
00:21:56.980 And I was rough on Iran and they supposedly have a hit on me.
00:22:01.400 In fact, I think it takes great courage for you people to be interviewing me because it
00:22:05.200 could be now, you know.
00:22:06.680 Well, we didn't know that before we got in here.
00:22:08.260 If you would have known that, you might not have done this.
00:22:10.480 Exactly.
00:22:11.120 In fact, this is a good way of me getting the interview to be shorter.
00:22:14.580 All of a sudden, he's going to say, you know, OK, that's it.
00:22:18.260 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
00:22:19.700 Go see my daughter.
00:22:20.760 Yeah.
00:22:21.140 They have three apps and foreign based, two of them, maybe three of them are foreign
00:22:26.840 based.
00:22:27.100 Wow.
00:22:27.240 They haven't opened them yet.
00:22:29.180 Why wouldn't you open them when you hear about Iran or when you hear about, you know,
00:22:32.700 foreign?
00:22:33.400 Then the other one had six cell phones and they haven't opened.
00:22:38.140 Now, you know, it's very hard to open a cell phone.
00:22:40.240 Only Apple can do it in theory unless you have somebody.
00:22:42.540 But they had no problem getting the J6 people cell phones open.
00:22:46.540 They opened their cell phones very quickly.
00:22:49.240 You know, we have two countries in a way.
00:22:50.800 What's happening here is very bad.
00:22:52.200 It's very dangerous.
00:22:53.400 We almost had one.
00:22:55.460 I mean, it really was.
00:22:56.940 But I would like them to to open up these apps and find out what's in there.
00:23:03.300 And so he had six six cell phones.
00:23:06.080 Who has six cell phones?
00:23:07.300 Having six cell phones is weird.
00:23:09.160 I have cell phones.
00:23:10.600 If I ever have two, it's like a lot.
00:23:13.000 He had six cell phones.
00:23:14.700 Why does he have them?
00:23:16.040 And why haven't they opened up those cell phones?
00:23:18.360 So if you have.
00:23:19.120 And it's different.
00:23:19.920 You know, if you're a drug dealer, I think it's terrible in many ways.
00:23:23.760 But I guess from another standpoint, Apple, the primary group, people buy those ones because
00:23:29.760 they will never open them for any reason.
00:23:31.840 But they got them open on J6.
00:23:35.840 You know, they opened up their phones, but they don't open.
00:23:38.700 And this is big stuff.
00:23:40.040 This is an assassination attempt.
00:23:42.220 And it could involve other countries.
00:23:44.700 There was that San Bernardino shooter that they hacked.
00:23:47.320 The FBI was able to hack into the phone.
00:23:49.160 Apple didn't give it up.
00:23:50.060 There are some people in the world, very few, that have an ability to sometimes be able
00:23:56.800 to hack in.
00:23:57.460 Got it.
00:23:57.940 Very rarely, actually.
00:23:59.340 Yeah.
00:23:59.600 It's an amazing thing when you think that with all the genius, you almost can't do it.
00:24:04.100 But Apple has a key.
00:24:05.520 And the key is, I mean, it just, they can do it immediately.
00:24:09.180 But they don't do it.
00:24:10.300 And they don't do it.
00:24:11.200 And that's one of the reasons that, like, I hate to say it, drug lords feel very confident
00:24:16.480 that they'll never be exposed.
00:24:18.400 And they use their cell phones, their Apple phones.
00:24:21.020 And maybe it's that way with other companies.
00:24:22.720 I don't know.
00:24:23.100 They have Samsung.
00:24:23.960 They have other companies.
00:24:25.440 But it's very hard.
00:24:27.140 Apple is very strong on that.
00:24:28.660 But when it comes to the assassination of a president, leading candidate, former president,
00:24:34.080 all that, I think the rules have to go out and they have to open those things.
00:24:37.600 Then they have to find out.
00:24:38.540 And in terms of national security, you have to either punish Apple or you have to get
00:24:44.400 somebody that can do it.
00:24:45.700 But in terms of national security, so the one guy has six phones, lots of messages to
00:24:50.620 people.
00:24:51.120 Who are those people he's calling when he's hiding behind the bush?
00:24:53.940 So if you had to guess, I'm sure you thought, obviously you've thought about this a lot.
00:24:56.860 It's an assassination.
00:24:57.840 Troy, you're absolutely right.
00:24:59.540 For some strange reason, Apple refused to unlock the phone for the San Bernardino shooter,
00:25:05.820 but was more than happy to unlock all the Apple records for me.
00:25:10.580 I do need to point out that Robert Mueller and his thugs found no evidence whatsoever of
00:25:17.140 Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or any other crime in any of my Apple records,
00:25:24.460 or any of my records for that matter.
00:25:27.440 Of course, we didn't know that until BuzzFeed, of all people, sued the Justice Department to
00:25:34.420 force them to release Robert Mueller's final, completely unredacted report in which even
00:25:41.760 he could not sugarcoat that he found no evidence of any of those crimes against me.
00:25:47.300 Thanks for reminding folks about the political bias of the folks at Apple.
00:25:52.980 They unlocked my phone and all my Apple records, but a mass shooter?
00:25:58.300 No, no.
00:25:58.940 They have to be protected.
00:26:00.460 Let's continue.
00:26:01.880 Well, and as you said, Roger, I mean, it's just unbelievable that we have a situation here
00:26:05.920 where these people that have attempted to assassinate the president, who has six phones?
00:26:12.000 And by the way, Roger, he points out something, Trump, in that clip that I think is pretty shocking.
00:26:16.220 And it goes back to the interview that we aired earlier this week that we did with General
00:26:20.700 Michael Flynn last week, where we talked about the threat of Iran against President Trump
00:26:26.620 and how they have kind of said again and again that there's a hit on Trump, and he talks about
00:26:31.000 it there.
00:26:31.620 And the idea that these shooters may have had applications on their phone that link back
00:26:36.720 to a foreign government, I think opens a whole new can of worms as far as these shooters
00:26:40.920 is concerned.
00:26:41.900 And even you have talked about that here on the show, Roger, that it's kind of, it can't
00:26:47.080 be a coincidence that Iran has all these hits out on Trump, and we're hearing so much about
00:26:51.060 this, and we've had two people take shots at him just in the last couple of months.
00:26:55.800 Yeah, it's really extraordinary.
00:26:59.060 All right, let's continue with the political news.
00:27:01.940 Absolutely.
00:27:02.500 Thanks, Roger.
00:27:03.120 We have another clip here that I want to get your opinion on because Kamala Harris is making
00:27:08.460 the rounds.
00:27:08.880 And as she makes the rounds, Roger, it's becoming more and more evident that she doesn't know
00:27:12.640 what she's talking about.
00:27:13.660 And she continues to fall back on that, I'm from a middle class family, but that's really
00:27:18.920 not working.
00:27:19.580 And people are starting to point out that that's kind of ridiculous.
00:27:22.860 And now she's jumped to spreading a conspiracy theory.
00:27:26.900 The entire left is running this conspiracy theory.
00:27:29.320 So we'll play Lawrence O'Donnell and Kamala Harris saying this back to back.
00:27:33.180 They're now peddling this wild conspiracy theory that Trump personally sent COVID tests to
00:27:39.620 Vladimir Putin during the COVID-19 pandemic saying, oh, this has something to do with
00:27:44.460 Russia.
00:27:45.280 So I want to roll those clips back to back and then get your thoughts on this latest
00:27:48.900 deranged conspiracy theory from a woman who looks to me to be struggling, maybe psychologically
00:27:54.500 with what's happening in her life.
00:27:55.860 Well, the breaking news of the day went from breaking news to a presidential campaign ad
00:28:03.280 in record time with the Harris for president campaign setting a new speed record today in
00:28:11.360 converting breaking news into a campaign ad.
00:28:15.260 And I talked to Putin a lot.
00:28:18.860 I got along with him well.
00:28:20.620 And I know Putin so well.
00:28:22.360 I'd like to congratulate Vladimir Putin for having made yet another great deal.
00:28:28.040 Did you see the deal with me?
00:28:29.240 Talk to him like that.
00:28:29.960 Oh, no, I had a very good relationship.
00:28:31.680 That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
00:28:32.880 And I'm trying to tell people, no, it's a good thing.
00:28:35.320 When you see Putin and you see all of these people, they're at the top of their game.
00:28:40.520 And I also have a very good relationship, as you know, with President Putin.
00:28:44.520 And I think if we win, I think we're going to get it resolved very quickly.
00:28:48.860 Very well.
00:28:49.540 I really think we're going to get it resolved.
00:28:50.760 I hope we have more good relations.
00:28:53.820 Oh, I see.
00:28:55.340 Yeah, but, you know, it takes two to tango, you know.
00:29:00.760 The shocking breaking news of the morning is the biggest October surprise of the 21st century.
00:29:09.080 The United States plays a role all around the world in our foreign policy.
00:29:14.020 People look to us for leadership.
00:29:15.300 Your opponent, Donald Trump, says that these and other, this conflict, Ukraine, other things around the world,
00:29:22.200 he could fix it like that with a single phone call.
00:29:24.820 He loves talking about his close relationship with Viktor Orban and Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un.
00:29:31.420 Dictators and authoritarians and people who have been well described as murderers.
00:29:35.940 Okay.
00:29:37.420 What do you make of the Bob Woodward's book?
00:29:41.100 He heard that he's had seven phone calls at least with Putin since he left office.
00:29:46.160 Yeah, so I heard about it today.
00:29:47.660 I haven't read it.
00:29:48.300 But, look, I said it even in the debate.
00:29:51.840 Donald Trump, he openly admires dictators and authoritarians.
00:29:56.680 He has said he wants to be a dictator on day one if he were elected again as president.
00:30:01.120 He gets played by these guys.
00:30:05.140 He admires so-called strongmen and he gets played because they flatter him or offer him favor.
00:30:12.280 However, the commander-in-chief of the United States of America must stand strong and defend the principles that we hold dear.
00:30:23.480 We should stand with our allies.
00:30:25.440 We should strengthen the alliances that we have, such as NATO, which is the strongest military alliance the world has ever seen.
00:30:31.720 We must stand with our friend Ukraine, where Russia is attempting to change borders by force.
00:30:41.740 And then you hear, if everything I've heard about Bob Woodward's book is right, Donald Trump secretly sent COVID test kits to Putin for his personal use.
00:30:55.280 I ask everyone here and everyone who is watching, you remember what those days were like?
00:31:02.120 You remember how many people did not have tests and were trying to scramble to get them?
00:31:09.620 You remember how rare it was to have one?
00:31:12.280 You remember people by the hundreds were dying every day?
00:31:15.480 We would watch the number every day being reported of people who were dying, people who were in hospitals, without their family.
00:31:25.280 Where the only touch that they had was of a nurse that they hadn't met because the family could not get there?
00:31:33.620 And this man is giving COVID test kits to Vladimir Putin?
00:31:39.400 Think about what this means on top of him sending love letters to Kim Jong-un.
00:31:46.680 No, think about it.
00:31:48.060 He thinks Vladimir Putin is his friend.
00:31:50.660 What about the American people?
00:31:52.900 They should be your first friend.
00:31:54.560 There's some first-rate demagoguery for you.
00:32:00.400 Let's review the record.
00:32:02.120 Under whose presidency did Vladimir Putin attack Ukraine?
00:32:07.220 Why, that would be the Biden-Harris administration.
00:32:11.720 It is also true that there were no moves on Taiwan during Trump's campaign.
00:32:20.980 Yes, I think to have the president of the United States have a strong relationship with any world leader who has nuclear weapons isn't stupid.
00:32:31.240 It's smart.
00:32:32.720 It was Donald Trump who was able to get the North Korean dictator to put his nuclear weapons development program on hold.
00:32:41.100 Of course, he took it off of hold as soon as Joe Biden became president.
00:32:45.600 So this is fake demagoguery.
00:32:48.320 Why are we trying to make Vladimir Putin an issue?
00:32:51.340 I'll tell you why.
00:32:52.660 Because we don't want to talk about the impact of open borders.
00:32:55.840 Because we don't want to talk about the fact that Kamala Harris had responsibility for our border.
00:33:02.080 And we've had over, who knows, 20 million illegals flooding into the country, bringing drugs, bringing child sex trafficking to us, human trafficking, and the extraordinary number of weapons.
00:33:17.140 So we don't want to talk about that.
00:33:18.920 We don't want to talk about the destruction of the buying power of the dollar based on these outrageous rates of inflation.
00:33:27.100 Inflation, which is caused by massive, out-of-control, wild spending.
00:33:34.580 Prices in the grocery stores are not up because the people who own the grocery stores or the food processors are gouging people.
00:33:42.340 Prices are up because the cost of raw materials, including fruits and vegetables, for example, is up sharply.
00:33:51.460 That's what causes inflation, not because of price gouging by capitalists.
00:33:57.820 Kamala Harris is out of her mind, but you can see why her campaign doesn't want to talk about her record.
00:34:03.960 In fact, she's now pledging that if she's elected, she'll seal the border.
00:34:08.740 If she's elected, she'll deal with the problem of inflation.
00:34:13.260 My question is an obvious one.
00:34:15.280 Where has she been for three and a half years?
00:34:18.160 Now, Joe Biden told us yet again, we played it on this show yesterday, I believe, she was in on all of the key decisions during his presidency.
00:34:27.140 She was right there.
00:34:28.520 She was, by her own admission, the last person in the room when they decided to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan.
00:34:37.920 But they also decided not to use the sophisticated, expensive drone technology that was used during the Trump administration to keep the Taliban pinned down to cover our withdrawal.
00:34:51.140 So this is a smokescreen and an attempt to distract.
00:34:55.200 I don't think that making Vladimir Putin an issue here is not going to work.
00:35:00.780 This comes in the same vein as the misguided view that the support of Dick and Liz Cheney or of what's left of the McCain family is a plus.
00:35:14.080 The Cheneys are hated in this country for a very good reason.
00:35:17.300 Dick Cheney was the driving force behind a foreign war in Iraq, which killed tens of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, completely unnecessarily.
00:35:31.660 It was based on a lie promulgated by former Vice President Dick Cheney.
00:35:37.280 First of all, he said that the Iranians had weapons of mass destruction.
00:35:42.460 Pardon me, the Iraqis had weapons of mass destruction.
00:35:45.940 They did not.
00:35:47.640 He also insisted that Iraq was involved in the attack on America on 9-11.
00:35:53.140 They were not.
00:35:54.560 So the support of war criminals and their daughter is not a plus with the American people.
00:36:00.500 I don't really understand what the strategists in Kamala Harris's campaign are thinking.
00:36:05.480 Well, and Roger, I just want to ask you, because this goes back to Nixon even, the person that they've used, and I say they because it seems that this is a pointed attack.
00:36:15.360 You see Kamala Harris there, or Kamala Harris there, brushing it off with what I'm hearing about, you know, like she isn't intricately involved in this.
00:36:23.360 Of course, this is an election ploy, and we're hearing that they've used Bob Woodward to release this.
00:36:28.860 Now, Bob Woodward has a history of being kind of the megaphone for the deep state to do their bidding and put out whatever they want, really, even dating back to Nixon, isn't he?
00:36:38.600 Well, it's worse than that.
00:36:41.380 Bob Woodward has a record of complete and total fabrication.
00:36:46.200 So we can go back to the Nixon days, the stories he tells in his book about Nixon talking to the presidential portraits on the walls.
00:36:56.520 There's no source for that because, well, it never happened.
00:36:59.260 Then he claimed in another of his books that former CIA director Bill Casey, on his deathbed after Woodward claims that he slipped into the hospital, confessing everything regarding Iran-Contra.
00:37:15.040 I've talked to Bill Casey's doctor, his wife, and his daughter.
00:37:18.900 At the time that this allegedly happened, Bill Casey had been hit by a debilitating stroke and no longer had the capacity for speech.
00:37:30.640 Also, there's no record of the round-the-clock security says that Bob Woodward never got into Bill Casey's hotel room.
00:37:39.980 So he fabricated a story about a man who was dead and can't refute it.
00:37:45.140 Then, of course, there's his book on John Belushi.
00:37:48.340 The Belushi family has issued a statement saying that it is rife with fabrications.
00:37:53.780 Bottom line, you can always tell when Bob Woodward is lying.
00:37:57.500 You know how?
00:37:58.420 His lips are moving.
00:38:00.100 Let's just continue.
00:38:01.940 Absolutely, Roger.
00:38:02.920 We have another clip.
00:38:04.200 You know, it was probably the best point in the debate, and it kind of spoke to me, the VP debate, it spoke to me to the decimation that was going on when Tim Walsh was kind of relegated to calling himself a knucklehead.
00:38:14.800 And he did so when he was asked about his many lies about Tiananmen Square and trips to China that he had taken while that was occurring.
00:38:23.300 And we have a clip from a 60 Minutes interview.
00:38:25.940 Now, we're going to roll another clip of this, Roger, but this is the Tim Walsh portion of the 60 Minutes Walsh-Harris interview,
00:38:34.000 in which he's pretty directly confronted about these lies and numerous other lies that we've documented on this show before.
00:38:41.140 And you'll see, again, he calls himself a knucklehead and tries to get out of it.
00:38:45.000 I want to get your thoughts on this guy melting down.
00:38:48.060 I have never seen a VP candidate that has hurt the ticket.
00:38:52.040 I think this guy is really, truly, every time he speaks, hurting Kamala Harris' chances in 2024.
00:38:57.720 So let's roll that clip, get Roger sauce on the Walsh meltdown that's continuing to just burn this campaign.
00:39:03.060 Walsh has been criticized for embellishing or telling outright falsehoods about his military record and about his travels to Asia in the 1980s.
00:39:12.980 In your debate with J.D. Vance, you said, I'm a knucklehead at times.
00:39:18.260 And I think you were referring to the time that you said that you were in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square unrest when you were not.
00:39:26.920 Yeah.
00:39:27.560 Is that kind of misrepresentation, isn't that more than just being a knucklehead?
00:39:33.560 I think folks know who I am, and I think they know the difference between someone expressing emotion, telling a story, getting a date wrong, rather than a pathological liar like Donald Trump.
00:39:45.440 But I think it comes down to the question of whether you can be trusted to tell the truth.
00:39:54.000 Yeah, well, I can. I think I can.
00:39:56.200 I will own up to being a knucklehead at times, but the folks closest to me know that I keep my word.
00:40:01.960 Yeah, I don't. Self-deprecation is fine, but calling yourself a knucklehead.
00:40:08.220 I don't think people want a knucklehead, a heartbeat away from having their finger on the nuclear trigger.
00:40:15.080 It's not just that Tim Walsh misremembered when he was in China.
00:40:21.080 It's the fact, first of all, that he was in China 33 times taking students there for indoctrination.
00:40:27.920 It's the fact that Tim Walsh taught at a Chinese communist-controlled university.
00:40:34.460 In other words, he's actually been on the payroll of the communist Chinese.
00:40:39.120 People who are familiar with China tell me how this works, that they bring students and other thought leaders over there for complete indoctrination.
00:40:48.360 This guy was a last-minute pick for vice president after Barack Obama pressured Kamala Harris and her people not to take Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania
00:41:02.160 for fear that they would alienate the large Muslim American populations in Michigan and Minnesota by taking a Jewish running mate.
00:41:13.060 And they went, as you know, first to Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona.
00:41:20.760 Now, they didn't take Kelly because it turns out that he's partners with a Chinese communist-controlled company
00:41:28.500 that actually makes these surveillance, these spy balloons, like the one that floated all the way across the United States
00:41:35.320 until Joe Biden ordered it shot down over the ocean, after, of course, it had already transferred all of the data
00:41:43.720 from their surveillance cameras back to Peking.
00:41:46.820 It is extraordinary that there's been no questioning of Governor Walz about his relationship with our most dangerous adversary,
00:41:58.640 that would be China, and the stories about him lying about his military service, which really has two elements.
00:42:06.760 It's not just that he lied about combat.
00:42:09.940 That's stolen valor.
00:42:12.100 That is a horrific embarrassment.
00:42:15.140 But the fact that he also lied about his rank, I don't think the American people want a liar or a self-described knucklehead
00:42:25.680 as being one heartbeat away from the presidency and the nuclear button.
00:42:32.000 Well, I think you're exactly right, Roger.
00:42:33.440 And that appearance on 60 Minutes is continuing to be one of the biggest topics, you know, out there.
00:42:38.000 People really hammering that over and over again.
00:42:40.880 And I think, look, the interviews that she's done can't compare with Donald Trump because, as we showed earlier in the show,
00:42:49.200 you know, Trump does a very relaxed interview.
00:42:51.280 He's very relaxed in his presentation.
00:42:53.520 He even takes time out of making a point to joke and to be more personable in his approach.
00:43:01.560 And I think, you know, normally, Roger, you would see in a primary, somebody like Donald Trump would rise above the rest because he's just talented at what he does.
00:43:12.320 He's a fantastic presenter of ideas and information.
00:43:16.560 And Kamala Harris never had to go through a primary.
00:43:19.480 So we're seeing her on this stage that I don't think that she's ready for.
00:43:23.320 And there's a lot of questions rattling around out there now.
00:43:26.540 I want to say this is speculation, but people have said that there's a possibility that Kamala Harris has been drinking more.
00:43:35.400 There's a possibility that she's been on any kind of drugs, whether it be marijuana or pills or things like that.
00:43:41.360 And several doctors and nurses have even sent me emails just as an editor-in-chief of Slingshot News that have said,
00:43:48.120 look, we think that this woman is on some kind of prescription medication.
00:43:53.580 We think that there's something going on with her.
00:43:55.660 So among these questions, Roger, she made the decision last night to drink a beer live on TV with Stephen Colbert,
00:44:03.040 reminiscent of the Elizabeth Warren beer incident on Twitter.
00:44:06.860 So I want to roll this and get your thoughts on an idea that someone running for president usually doesn't consume alcohol like that in an open setting.
00:44:16.720 It's kind of something that's a little different.
00:44:18.140 I want to roll that clip and get your thoughts and ask you, have you ever seen this done before by a candidate where they try to make it like they're the person to have a beer with?
00:44:26.400 It's kind of bizarre.
00:44:27.080 You know, everyone, when you first became the nominee and named Tim Walz as your vice president nominee, people were calling it the vibe election.
00:44:37.860 All the vibes were all good.
00:44:39.480 But elections, I think, are one on vibes because one of the old saws is they just want somebody they can have a beer with.
00:44:44.840 So would you like to have a beer with me so I can tell people what that's like?
00:44:47.960 Okay, this was, now we asked ahead of time because I can't just be given a drink to the vice president of the United States, but I'd ask you, you asked for Miller High Life.
00:45:00.160 I'm just curious.
00:45:02.280 Okay, the last time I had beer was at a baseball game with Doug.
00:45:07.520 Okay, so cheers.
00:45:08.600 Cheers.
00:45:09.280 There you go.
00:45:09.700 Well, first of all, I'm surprised it wasn't malt liquor in her efforts to identify with the African-American community.
00:45:30.240 Look, she's a fraud.
00:45:33.260 She has no substance.
00:45:34.640 She's trying to be likable and relatable, but as long as she has that laugh, I don't think anybody can relate to her.
00:45:41.900 And she can't answer, as you know, any hard questions on policy.
00:45:46.420 So Colbert, who's no longer funny, he kind of blurted it out.
00:45:50.940 In other words, if you watch their strategy carefully, what they're selling us is joy, unspecified joy.
00:45:59.220 This was the campaign strategy of Barack Obama.
00:46:02.320 He sold us hope and change.
00:46:05.580 And, of course, we didn't get the hope and the change.
00:46:08.460 It turned out to be small change.
00:46:10.860 But this is the whole point, which is to try to win on the basis of imagery without specifics.
00:46:19.560 She says Trump has no plan.
00:46:21.400 Well, she has a plan.
00:46:22.900 Her plan would have American taxpayers paying for the health care of the 20-plus million illegals who are in the country.
00:46:31.700 Her plan is to defund the police.
00:46:35.040 She said it herself.
00:46:36.540 Her plan is to make entering the country illegally no longer a criminal act.
00:46:42.320 That's her plan.
00:46:43.760 She doesn't have a plan for the economy.
00:46:46.380 She keeps talking about helping the middle class.
00:46:49.980 Well, the middle class will be helped by tax reduction and by returning to energy independence.
00:46:58.340 Trump understands this.
00:47:00.540 Cheap energy prices are the key to a thriving economy.
00:47:05.380 A thriving economy is the key to more job opportunities, more housing opportunities.
00:47:11.620 Trump has a plan.
00:47:12.880 They continue to say, said it again in the Walsh-Vance debate, that Trump would cut taxes on billionaires.
00:47:22.740 No, the Trump tax cuts were across the board.
00:47:26.780 It was a tax cut for every American.
00:47:29.440 I've said this before on the show.
00:47:31.520 Those taxpayers who got the greatest tax reduction were the taxpayers in the middle brackets.
00:47:38.160 The greatest tax reduction went to those making between $15,000 and $30,000 a year.
00:47:45.220 Those are not billionaires, but they got the highest rate of tax reduction.
00:47:50.180 Billionaires, on average, got about a 1% decrease in their taxes.
00:47:55.500 It's just another lie put forward by the Harris campaign.
00:47:59.560 Well, and Roger, the Americans out there that have dealt with the IRS, I think there's a significant portion of Americans out there who don't realize that there's so many of us out there that don't really deal with the IRS.
00:48:11.980 And those of us who have to deal with them and write them checks, like if you're in business or you own a business or anything like that, I think it's just a mindset thing.
00:48:21.000 And Americans, there's so many of us out there that just really are not comprehending what's happening.
00:48:27.200 And they happen to be people usually my age.
00:48:29.980 They don't really grasp things.
00:48:31.900 And it's almost attractive for them to hear that nameless, really, hope and joy.
00:48:38.020 And it's a bizarre situation.
00:48:40.240 But we see the result of Democrat governance across the country, Roger.
00:48:44.620 And we're seeing it right now in the state of North Carolina because there's people all over the state of North Carolina who don't have access to power.
00:48:52.460 They don't have access to gasoline.
00:48:54.080 They don't have access to food.
00:48:55.460 And nobody is coming to help.
00:48:57.520 Now, in states like Florida, Governor DeSantis has mobilized a huge response, and he's done so many times in places like Alabama, Georgia.
00:49:05.920 They're getting ready.
00:49:06.920 They're fixing things.
00:49:07.660 But in places like North Carolina where we have a Democrat governor of Roy Cooper, things are worse than they've ever been.
00:49:14.120 And so the nameless hope, the nameless joy, the thing that looks shiny that the Democrats purchased in North Carolina is not working.
00:49:22.300 And we're seeing that right now.
00:49:24.000 Let's roll a clip of this disgusting North Carolina governor, despite the fact that everybody's saying they can't get the help they need, on TV saying, yeah, we're helping everybody and FEMA's doing great.
00:49:34.660 He's basically spitting in the face of all these people who can't get help, people who we revealed here on the Stone Zone are primarily voters and supporters of President Trump.
00:49:43.560 So let's roll that clip and get Roger's thoughts.
00:49:45.700 What has the federal response been like in these last couple of weeks?
00:49:50.980 It's been very good, Willie.
00:49:52.880 And we're just keeping our heads down and making progress in response and recovery in Western North Carolina.
00:49:59.660 There are thousands and thousands of local, state, and federal officials here on the ground.
00:50:06.640 The FEMA administrator has been with me on the ground the entire time.
00:50:11.860 She just went to Florida this morning, which is where she needs to go with Hurricane Milton coming.
00:50:16.700 But we have almost 1,800 National Guard soldiers.
00:50:20.120 We have almost 1,500 military soldiers from military bases.
00:50:24.600 We have emergency personnel, FEMA personnel, local government emergency response people.
00:50:32.660 It has been an amazing response to a catastrophic storm.
00:50:38.520 But this swirling vortex of disinformation is beginning to affect people there on the ground.
00:50:47.120 I had an officer come up to me and say, why are they saying we aren't doing anything?
00:50:53.200 In fact, this is demoralizing to all of the people who are working so hard.
00:50:58.280 Those first responders who went into people's homes and pulled them out of windows in swirling waters.
00:51:04.400 People who are working around the clock to get oxygen bottles and insulin to people in the remote, rugged areas of the mountains.
00:51:15.100 The people who are working to get the power back on.
00:51:17.660 We've gone from a million to about 140,000 power outages.
00:51:22.800 People who are working to restore communications and water systems.
00:51:27.280 And you're also making some people wary of applying for aid and relief because you have these crazy stories about FEMA coming in and taking people's land and stopping donations from coming in.
00:51:45.860 And it's very frustrating when you're on the ground working hard every day.
00:51:50.840 In fact, I'm going to leave here, go to the emergency operations center and head back out west again.
00:51:55.320 But I'll tell you what, the people of Western North Carolina are resilient and determined and courageous.
00:52:01.800 And we're going to be with them every step of the way as we recover from this catastrophic storm.
00:52:07.700 We've never seen anything like it.
00:52:10.240 So in other words, the governor's saying is, believe what I tell you, not what you see with your own eyes.
00:52:16.740 I'm sorry, go on social media and just spend a little bit of time.
00:52:20.400 You see real people, not politicians, real people telling you what's going on around them, telling you about the hundreds, if not thousands of dead bodies they've seen.
00:52:31.840 Yesterday, I got a message from a woman who is a mortician.
00:52:36.920 She has no power.
00:52:38.920 She has more bodies than she can handle.
00:52:42.880 Some of them are beginning to rot.
00:52:45.260 Now, we're not making this up.
00:52:47.080 This is not something that is being made up.
00:52:49.240 Troy, between today and tomorrow, please go online.
00:52:52.960 Let's pull together the videos of real people telling us what's going on in Western Pennsylvania, Western North Carolina, pardon me, rather than politicians like Roy Cooper.
00:53:05.820 Well, and Roger, it's a devastating thing.
00:53:08.820 And we're getting, you know, another hurricane here.
00:53:10.900 So as he just described, there's limited resources as far as the federal response is concerned.
00:53:16.200 President Biden has already said that there's not going to be additional resources.
00:53:19.800 And now we're in Milton barreling towards Florida and expected to really almost destroy the city of Tampa.
00:53:26.200 So help us.
00:53:28.360 We're seeing what the Democrats are doing right now.
00:53:31.160 This is what Democrat control looks like.
00:53:33.440 And if you want to know what things will be like in this country if Kamala Harris wins in 2024, just look no further than the people in Western North Carolina, because they are experiencing what it's like to have a Democrat governor right now.
00:53:47.120 And they are crying for help.
00:53:48.860 They're experiencing what it's like right now to have a Democrat president, a Democrat president who isn't even in his own mind.
00:53:54.820 And they're completely helpless.
00:53:58.620 And it's just the idea, Roger, that we continue to give all these people money.
00:54:02.900 We continue to send our tax money into D.C. and we get absolutely nothing for it.
00:54:08.880 And in our disasters, they literally just spit in our face and then don't do anything and go on TV and say, no, those people online, they're lying.
00:54:17.040 We're doing a great job.
00:54:18.400 People can't wait to see us come around.
00:54:20.240 I mean, I think Ronald Reagan said it best, there's nothing more scary than somebody coming around and telling you that they're from the government and they're here to help.
00:54:28.020 And people are waking up to that.
00:54:30.920 And if we continue to cover this, I think that's what's really angering them, Roger.
00:54:36.580 They're not allowed anymore because of social media, because of independent news.
00:54:41.260 They're not allowed to just repeat what is said on ABC, NBC, and CBS and have it become reality.
00:54:47.800 And just for somebody like you to see them lose that power just from the days of Richard Nixon to now, it's got to be something that's truly beautiful.
00:54:57.460 They've lost their monopoly on the flow of information, haven't they?
00:55:01.480 They have, but they're hysterical about it.
00:55:03.980 Look, we've seen Hillary Clinton.
00:55:06.100 They tried to clean this up, but it doesn't work very well.
00:55:09.000 Very disappointed in Mike Smirconish, who is a smart guy, but who now is saying, oh, well, Hillary Clinton was only talking about limiting information on the Internet to protect children from misinformation.
00:55:22.620 No, she doesn't want anyone whose political views are different than hers to have a voice on the Internet.
00:55:29.500 You've heard Kamala Harris say the same thing.
00:55:32.320 This is one of the driving issues, as you know, that got Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to decide to abandon his candidacy and support President Donald Trump.
00:55:43.360 Because if Kamala Harris is president, even more so than today, and we already have widespread censorship on Facebook, on Instagram, on TikTok, on most social media,
00:55:59.500 but you can expect a complete clampdown on all forms of mass-based free speech.
00:56:08.600 It will be a thing of the past.
00:56:10.420 All right, unfortunately, we have to wrap this up.
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00:57:12.000 On behalf of my co-host, Troy Smith, let me ask for your prayers for all of those already afflicted by the hurricane in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, parts of Virginia, and parts of Florida,
00:57:25.820 but also pray for those in the path of the oncoming hurricane.
00:57:30.420 Until tomorrow, God bless you, and Godspeed.
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00:57:46.360 Where's Roger Stone?
00:57:47.460 Roger Stone?
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