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On today's show, Stone and his co-host Troy Smith are joined by Will Scharf, who is working on Trump's defense team, to discuss the latest in the Trump/Biden saga, including the possibility of a prison sentence for the president, and what that could mean for his 2020 re-election campaign. Plus, Stone is joined by a special guest on his new show, The Stone Zone with Roger Stone, where he talks about what it's like to be a political consultant for a sitting president and what it means for a president who's been convicted of a criminal offense. And, of course, there's still time to catch up with Stone before the 2020 Republican National Convention begins on July 14th in Cleveland, Ohio, and the 2020 Democratic National Convention is just a few weeks away. Join the conversation by using the hashtag and on social media, and don't forget to tag to be featured on the next episode of The Stonezone! Subscribe to the show and let us know what you thought of today's episode and what you're looking forward to in the coming weeks! Tweet me if you have any thoughts or opinions on the latest happenings in politics or anything else going on in the world of politics! . or share it with a friend! or a fellow podcast listener! Timestamps: 5 Star Potential: 6 Starred: 7 Stars: 8 Starred in the Stone Zone 9 Starred? 8 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 27 25 26 24 29 28 30 35 31 32 36 33 37 38 34 39 40 41 45 42 46 47 44 43 48 51 Theme Music by 49 50 56 55 57 58 Theme Song by 6 Music by : "I Don t Think This Is My Name 60 , 61 54 65 67 68 (Amber Guy R 66 #

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00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:12.220 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:15.820 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:21.980 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:27.320 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:32.920 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:38.260 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:46.080 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.340 Thank God it's Friday, a tumultuous week in American politics.
00:00:56.420 But, well, they all seem to be that way now.
00:01:00.740 Joining me, as usual, is my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.news, who is my co-host here on the Stone Zone.
00:01:13.000 Troy, great to be here on a Friday, isn't it?
00:01:17.640 Hey, it's good to see the end of the week, Roger.
00:01:19.860 I feel like every time we get to a Friday now, there's so much BS that has happened during the week.
00:01:24.180 It's like a sigh of relief you get to the weekend.
00:01:26.660 And then the weekend usually has more entailing BS that continues into the next week.
00:01:32.280 Extremely well put.
00:01:33.840 So I think President Donald Trump actually had a very, very good week.
00:01:38.700 First of all, the news that he's raised almost $400 million, mostly in medium and small-sized contributions,
00:01:49.480 hits a political milestone that's historic.
00:01:53.700 That has never been done.
00:01:55.860 Donald Trump, not the candidate of the special interests, not the candidate of the hedge fund managers,
00:02:01.860 not the candidate of Wall Street, but the candidate of the people.
00:02:05.980 Only weeks ago, the media was crowing about the fact that Biden's fundraising as an incumbent was so extraordinary
00:02:14.040 and that Trump wasn't going to be able to raise the money to compete.
00:02:19.100 Well, by dragging him through a baseless trial in New York,
00:02:25.080 convicting him without ever identifying the underlying criminal law that he violated,
00:02:32.460 they have inadvertently turbocharged his campaign.
00:02:37.880 But the real question is, what happens next?
00:02:42.340 And to answer that question, I'm very pleased to welcome Will Scharf,
00:02:48.360 who is one of Donald Trump's most able lawyers,
00:02:53.000 working on his defense team to the Stone Zone now.
00:02:56.500 Will Scharf, welcome to the Zone.
00:02:59.540 Great to be with you, Roger.
00:03:02.660 Thanks so much for having me.
00:03:04.780 First of all, just for folks who want to tune in,
00:03:08.180 Will Scharf is going to be on my 77 WABC radio show this Sunday from 4 to 6.
00:03:16.160 You can listen to it by going to WABCradio.com.
00:03:21.140 So if you don't get enough Will Scharf here today, and you may not,
00:03:25.520 you can get even more on the weekend.
00:03:29.400 Will, let's kind of start with that initial question.
00:03:35.620 As I have said on the show yesterday, you can talk to four of the smartest lawyers you know,
00:03:41.260 and you'll get four different answers.
00:03:44.020 I was a little surprised that the president's attorneys asked for sentencing in the middle of July,
00:03:52.360 given the Republican National Convention coming up July 14th.
00:03:58.700 The judge, I believe, set the 12th for sentencing.
00:04:02.780 I have this nightmare that I wake up with in the middle of the night that, well,
00:04:08.160 Judge Juan Merchant is going to seek to incarcerate Donald Trump, send him to Rikers Island,
00:04:15.460 or maybe sentence him to home confinement.
00:04:20.940 The specter of an ankle bracelet is aggravating.
00:04:25.280 Some lawyers will say, well, surely the judge would stay any sentence pending appeal.
00:04:34.320 Sorry, I've gone to trial in D.C.
00:04:37.260 I've seen politically motivated judges and their disregard for the law and the Constitution and basic fairness.
00:04:45.520 So you can see why that scares me.
00:04:48.100 And I also, with all due respect, I recognize that there are things you can't tell us today that pertain to attorney-client privilege,
00:04:57.860 and we understand that.
00:04:59.020 But how do you see this playing out?
00:05:02.200 Because my nightmare scenario is that the president is not able to accept the nomination in person,
00:05:10.600 a nomination that he's won in the greatest single political comeback in American history.
00:05:16.240 He didn't just beat his opponents for the nomination.
00:05:20.620 He wiped up the floor with him.
00:05:22.300 He set records in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Super Tuesday.
00:05:27.760 This is a moment of triumph, but I have this deep-seated fear that they really want to get him off the trail.
00:05:36.640 The federal cases now, and we'll talk about that,
00:05:40.220 appearing to be less of an issue, less likely to happen before the election.
00:05:44.720 This may be the only main chance at election interference they have.
00:05:50.500 So how do you think this will play out?
00:05:53.640 Yeah, I think that framing is exactly right, Roger.
00:05:56.620 When you look at this entire legal campaign against President Trump,
00:06:00.440 it's very clear that it was motivated by a desire to interfere in the 2024 election.
00:06:05.880 Joe Biden actually said the quiet part out loud back in November of 2022,
00:06:10.240 when he said openly that he was going to attempt to use legal means to prevent President Trump from getting back into the White House.
00:06:17.620 Now, in this country, as you know, we contest elections at the ballot boxes, not in the courts.
00:06:21.880 So it was really an outrageous statement by Joe,
00:06:24.120 and it's even more outrageous that his minions have gone out and done exactly that,
00:06:28.360 filed case after case after case against President Trump,
00:06:31.240 all in an effort, I believe, to interfere with his ability to run for office.
00:06:35.540 Now, with respect to the New York sentencing itself,
00:06:38.140 the sentencing date was dictated largely by the court's calendar.
00:06:42.360 As you said, or as you alluded to, it would be highly, highly irregular
00:06:46.600 for President Trump to get any sort of serious sentence
00:06:49.940 based on the level of the alleged offenses here,
00:06:53.820 based on his characteristics as a defendant,
00:06:56.020 the fact that obviously he has no criminal history.
00:06:59.000 So we'd certainly hope for a reasonable resolution of this.
00:07:03.240 And we also would hope for an absolute stay of any judgment pending appeal.
00:07:08.060 Our grounds for appeal are extraordinarily strong here.
00:07:11.040 There are numerous constitutional violations that infected this case from the start.
00:07:15.880 And we're excited to get this case up into the appeals courts
00:07:18.460 and hopefully vindicate President Trump's rights,
00:07:21.420 because what happened in that New York court wasn't justice, wasn't just.
00:07:26.920 It was a political show trial in the finest sense of the word.
00:07:30.200 And we feel as though as soon as we get this thing in front of a favorable court,
00:07:33.780 or not a favorable court, just a fair court, we're going to win.
00:07:37.500 And President Trump's rights will be vindicated.
00:07:40.060 So there is a timing question here,
00:07:41.740 but we feel very good about our ability to expedite any appeal
00:07:45.160 to make sure that President Trump's rights are protected
00:07:48.240 at the earliest possible opportunity.
00:07:49.880 And we're going to keep fighting for him.
00:07:52.660 You know, perhaps it's just because I'm scarred by my own experience,
00:07:57.820 but we'll expect the worst, expect the absolute worst.
00:08:02.260 Because this judge, who clearly should have recused himself
00:08:06.520 based on his campaign contributions to Joe Biden,
00:08:09.980 based on his daughter's conflict of interest
00:08:12.500 of being a Democrat fundraising consultant,
00:08:15.240 who actually used this trial,
00:08:18.660 which her father was presiding over,
00:08:21.860 as the focal point for her fundraising,
00:08:24.800 those are very serious, serious conflicts.
00:08:28.620 Yet the judge has no intention of recusing the fact.
00:08:33.700 In fact, I would say he probably aspires to a federal judgeship.
00:08:38.100 So he clearly wants to become some kind of liberal, progressive icon.
00:08:45.880 And it doesn't matter how many laws he has to break
00:08:50.420 or rules he has to break to do it.
00:08:53.420 So, look, I hope that I'm wrong.
00:08:57.360 But their whole goal here is to get him off the campaign trail.
00:09:01.600 First of all, they want to drain his campaign funds.
00:09:05.740 Well, all they succeeded in doing was filling his campaign coffers at record levels.
00:09:12.160 That's kind of ironic.
00:09:13.640 Then, of course, they want to suck up his time.
00:09:16.740 They wanted him to be standing trial in Florida, in D.C., in Georgia,
00:09:23.580 and in New York to get him off the campaign trail.
00:09:27.400 Well, let me ask you this.
00:09:28.880 The Supreme Court has heard arguments about presidential immunity.
00:09:35.740 I thought that your colleague, Mr. Sauer, did a particularly good job in that proceeding.
00:09:44.240 Do you think it is impossible that the court ruling on immunity could come down
00:09:51.120 in such a way that if it is crafted in such a way to protect other presidents,
00:09:58.980 but perhaps not to protect this president,
00:10:02.980 that there could be a D.C.-based trial before the election?
00:10:08.240 Is that a possibility?
00:10:10.300 Generally speaking, every lawyer I've talked to says no,
00:10:13.560 but, you know, I'm trying to look at a worst-case scenario.
00:10:16.660 Yeah, I think that's highly unlikely, Roger, just based on the timeline here,
00:10:22.620 that we expect a Supreme Court ruling on immunity at some point in June.
00:10:27.520 Typically, with Supreme Court practice, you have 26 days after that to seek reconsideration of any unfavorable judgment.
00:10:36.360 And where we left things when the stay in this case was first entered, we had over three months left on our trial clock.
00:10:44.280 So even if the Supreme Court were to rule against this, I think it would be near impossible for that case to move to trial prior to Election Day.
00:10:55.280 But more importantly, I think we expect to win.
00:10:58.720 We felt that arguments went very well for us.
00:11:02.380 I think the Supreme Court was deeply concerned with the ramifications,
00:11:06.320 obviously not just for President Trump, but for the institution of the presidency.
00:11:09.960 And I think that they're going to do something here to protect the institution of the presidency.
00:11:16.820 And that will obviously redound to our benefit as well.
00:11:20.100 So we feel very good about where that D.C. prosecution is at.
00:11:24.100 Florida, likewise, the trial date there has been vacated.
00:11:27.760 We have hearings coming up on prosecutorial misconduct allegations,
00:11:32.400 on the very validity of Jack Smith's appointment in the first place,
00:11:35.940 which we believe was unconstitutional.
00:11:37.820 Florida is moving nowhere close to trial anytime soon.
00:11:42.640 And then in Georgia, the issue of Fannie Willis' disqualification is up before the Georgia Court of Appeals.
00:11:48.320 I wouldn't expect a ruling on that anytime soon, and that could easily dispose of that case as well.
00:11:53.880 So really, across the board, we've taken a very dangerous situation where you have potentially four criminal trials
00:12:00.540 all coming to a head in 2024.
00:12:03.060 And I believe that that New York trial will be the only one that President Trump has to deal with,
00:12:08.080 certainly before the election, but potentially ever.
00:12:12.060 Well, from your mouth to God's ear.
00:12:15.200 Troy, do you have a question for our guest, Will Scharf?
00:12:19.200 Absolutely.
00:12:19.880 In the Hush Money trial particularly, what's the timeline look like for the appeal process?
00:12:24.040 What should people at home be expecting in regards to the timeline?
00:12:28.640 I think we'd look to speedily challenge the judgment as soon as it's formally entered on July 11th.
00:12:34.860 We would move to expedite and move to get that case as high up as quickly as possible.
00:12:39.460 A lot of that will depend on how Judge Mershon ends up ruling.
00:12:44.200 Based on his decision, we may have other avenues to challenge the verdict or to challenge the sentence as well.
00:12:51.320 It's all a little bit contingent, but we're planning for every possibility.
00:12:55.480 And our objective is making sure that President Trump's rights are vindicated as quickly as possible.
00:13:00.460 Let's go back to this question because you raised it.
00:13:08.260 It's one that I've long thought might save the day here.
00:13:13.360 One of the witnesses in my case, Andrew Miller, a young man who worked for me, did not wish to testify.
00:13:21.700 Now, the truth is there was literally nothing he could have said that would have been detrimental to me.
00:13:26.600 And it didn't matter to me one way or another whether they called him to testify.
00:13:32.360 The entire case was, as we now know from Robert Mueller's unredacted special report, when you go to the section about me, he's forced to admit that he found no evidence of Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration.
00:13:49.220 No, I did not coordinate the timing of the WikiLeaks drops on behalf of the Trump campaign.
00:13:55.120 All nonsense.
00:13:57.120 Anyone who's read the trial record, as bad as it is, would know there's no evidence of that.
00:14:02.360 But Miller and his very able lawyer, Paul Kaminar, challenged the authority of Robert Mueller, saying that because Mueller was not a sitting U.S. attorney who would have had to been confirmed by the Senate,
00:14:18.160 or because his appointment by Rod Rosenstein, handpicked by Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus for the number two job at the Department of Justice,
00:14:29.660 had never been confirmed by the Senate, that the appointment was illegal.
00:14:37.160 That was, I think, wrongly decided by the D.C. Court of Appeals, but was never taken up to the Supreme Court.
00:14:44.060 All right, fast forward now, where the president's lawyers, I think recognizing the bad case law in D.C., did preserve this issue in Florida.
00:14:55.520 It's a legitimate issue.
00:14:57.960 Sorry, Andrew Weissman.
00:14:59.660 It's a legitimate issue.
00:15:01.280 And therefore, Judge Cannon, who's under an extraordinary attack because she's not, she won't roll over for the government.
00:15:12.760 You see, the folks at MSNBC, they like judges who act like another member of the prosecution.
00:15:18.720 What they don't like are judges who actually follow the law, judges who are fair.
00:15:24.940 That drives them insane.
00:15:27.800 No, she's not incompetent.
00:15:29.400 No, she's not unqualified.
00:15:31.500 No, she's not.
00:15:32.180 She's a federal judge, just like the ones you lionize when they rule in your favor. 1.00
00:15:37.280 So this now, I think, is very promising because Judge Cannon in Florida, who, by the way, you know, comes from a family of Cuban immigrants,
00:15:48.540 had an excellent record as a prosecutor.
00:15:51.120 Anyone who says she's unqualified to the bench, trust me, she's far more qualified than, say, oh, I don't know, Andrew Weissman.
00:16:00.080 She's an extraordinary individual.
00:16:03.760 She's obviously a very courageous judge.
00:16:06.380 She's now scheduled a broader hearing on this very question.
00:16:11.540 I didn't know until you told me that the amicus argument put forward by former Attorney General Ed Meese, served under Ronald Reagan, who died June 5th, 20 years ago,
00:16:27.320 and who I dedicated my 77 WABC radio show this coming Sunday to.
00:16:33.720 And two widely respected law professors, neither one of whom are Trump supporters or Republicans, filed this very strong motion.
00:16:46.980 They will evidently now be allowed to testify in this hearing.
00:16:51.580 This is driving the left even crazier.
00:16:53.620 Why are people who are not, have no involvement in the case, being allowed to testify?
00:17:00.460 Tell me your thoughts about this line of developments.
00:17:05.580 Yeah, I think it's deeply problematic that we have these special counsels being appointed who have broad power to investigate, to bring indictments.
00:17:15.200 And they've never gone through the constitutional process of Senate confirmation.
00:17:20.800 I mean, that's the check on the government.
00:17:23.220 That's the check on the executive branch that our framers intended.
00:17:26.820 And what we've seen with special counsels, as you saw, and as President Trump is now dealing with, with Jack Smith,
00:17:33.340 these people just feel totally unbound by the law, by limitations on their powers.
00:17:38.100 And they are deeply committed to getting their man at all costs.
00:17:42.100 It's not the way the system is supposed to work.
00:17:44.540 So we challenged the appointment of Jack Smith in Florida in front of Judge Cannon.
00:17:50.100 She's now called a hearing on that.
00:17:52.880 As you said, Attorney General Meese filed an amicus brief where he argued that, you know, we were right.
00:18:00.020 His argument is our argument, that Jack Smith is an unconstitutionally appointed special counsel,
00:18:05.400 exercising powers that he cannot constitutionally exercise, and that therefore these indictments need to be dismissed.
00:18:12.140 Judge Cannon seems to be taking this argument seriously.
00:18:15.920 As you said, she's obviously allowing us to argue that point at a hearing scheduled for later this month.
00:18:21.740 She's also allowing the amici, led by General Meese, to present arguments at that hearing.
00:18:27.280 And I expect that we're going to hear a lot from the amici, from our team, about just how unconstitutional Jack Smith's appointment was.
00:18:36.460 Now, if Judge Cannon were to rule in our favor, that would certainly dispose of the Florida case.
00:18:42.760 It could also dispose of the D.C. case.
00:18:45.140 We would expect the special counsel's office, the Department of Justice, to immediately appeal that.
00:18:50.320 And that could very easily end up before the U.S. Supreme Court on a pretty quick timeline.
00:18:55.120 We could see arguments on that as early as October.
00:18:58.340 So it's a very interesting situation.
00:19:00.820 It's a dynamic situation.
00:19:02.780 In the meantime, that Florida case is nowhere close to trial.
00:19:06.120 The trial date's been vacated.
00:19:07.440 No new trial date has been set, while Judge Cannon deals with these issues, with serious allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.
00:19:15.620 So that Florida case, which was deemed at one point the most threatening, the leftist media called it the greatest danger to President Trump,
00:19:23.560 now appears to be on a sort of a slow walk to death row, that it's on life support, it's not going anywhere.
00:19:31.380 And we think we have very strong grounds for it to be dismissed.
00:19:34.320 So we feel very confident going into the next month in that Florida case.
00:19:39.040 It is really quite extraordinary, despite the fact that a special counsel, Robert Herr, I've read his report four times.
00:19:47.580 There are some internal contradictions, but he clearly reaches the conclusion that Joe Biden willfully retained documents in violation of federal law.
00:19:58.460 But, of course, he should not be prosecuted because he's old and his memory is failing.
00:20:04.320 Yet we should have his finger on the nuclear button.
00:20:07.400 It's also kind of tickles me that when Richard Nixon taped his White House conversations and the Congress and the Justice Department, special prosecutor and the public wanted those audio tapes released,
00:20:28.300 he argued that he argued that he argued that they were his and also that the that the theory of executive privilege prevented or made him protected him from release.
00:20:43.400 I believe Nixon versus Fitzgerald was wrongly decided, but that's because of the hysteria in the country at the time whipped up by the mainstream media.
00:20:55.280 Now, by the way, Nixon's argument was, well, I've released a transcript.
00:20:58.920 Why do you need the tapes?
00:21:00.480 Well, the Supreme Court ruled against him.
00:21:02.660 The tapes went to the Congress.
00:21:04.420 They went to the special counsel and they went to the public and they ended his presidency.
00:21:09.880 Now, Joe Biden's Justice Department is fighting the release of the audio tape of his interview with Robert Herr claiming executive privilege.
00:21:21.880 Can we just not have one standard for all presidents?
00:21:26.380 I'm not asking you to comment.
00:21:28.320 I just had to bring it up.
00:21:29.200 No, I'd love to comment on that, Roger.
00:21:30.840 I mean, it's frankly astounding.
00:21:32.660 You know that these tapes must be absolutely devastating to Biden.
00:21:38.000 Otherwise, they wouldn't be fighting their release the way that they are.
00:21:40.880 Merrick Garland has now classified them at the highest possible classification level.
00:21:45.760 These tapes have been validly subpoenaed by a congressional committee that has every right to receive them.
00:21:51.920 And yet the Biden folks are in full on meltdown mode, doing everything they can to prevent their release,
00:21:56.780 because I believe they will show what we all know, which is that President Biden is incapable of executing his duties as president and should not be president.
00:22:06.440 So that's why they're fighting the release of these tapes.
00:22:09.120 The transcripts obviously don't convey that the way that the spoken word on those tapes would.
00:22:15.120 And that's why they're they're trying to prevent their release.
00:22:17.940 And it's also worth noting that Steve Bannon right now is facing a sentence of imprisonment for defying a congressional subpoena.
00:22:25.480 Well, Merrick Garland and Joe Biden are equally vile or equally refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena right now.
00:22:34.120 So, as you said, I mean, it just goes to show that there's this tremendous double standard at play here where the Democrats get to play by one set of rules and they expect us to play by a totally different set of rules.
00:22:44.720 It's just it's frankly un-American. 0.54
00:22:46.080 Yeah, it's one of the most uncomfortable things I've seen this week was Merrick Garland's presser when he's asked why they're not honoring these subpoenas.
00:22:57.940 He said, well, you know, we can't honor subpoenas that are illegitimate.
00:23:03.580 Who would deem them illegitimate?
00:23:05.680 This is a this is a these are duly voted subpoenas by a congressional majority.
00:23:12.820 They they there are the two tier justice system really just boggles the mind.
00:23:20.000 But you're right.
00:23:21.040 It's what's in the audio that they're hiding.
00:23:23.540 It has to be Joe has to be doddering or confused or he seems to often be very angry, seems to get angry.
00:23:31.460 He's got this volcanic temper, which neurologists tell me is a common sign of a senile dementia.
00:23:38.700 The forgetting what you're saying in the middle of a.
00:23:43.120 Well, anyway, you get it.
00:23:45.040 Look, the the the Roger, the presidency is just an incredibly demanding office.
00:23:50.920 I mean, all day, all night, making these incredibly impactful decisions on a minute by minute basis with information coming in, often conflicting information.
00:24:01.540 And it's an almost impossible job for anybody to do in the best of times.
00:24:06.400 And just looking at President Biden's public appearances, looking at the way he speaks, the way he walks, the way he acts.
00:24:14.480 I mean, it is just apparent to anybody who's looking that this is not a guy who should have his finger on the nuclear button.
00:24:20.940 And I think the reason they're fighting the release of these tapes is because they will show what we all know, which is that Joe Biden can't do the job.
00:24:29.100 And I think when you look at the contrast between President Trump and Joe Biden, I mean, President Trump stands up on stage and discourses for an hour and a half almost every night.
00:24:38.040 You know, he's going to rallies across America.
00:24:39.800 He's flying around.
00:24:41.020 He's doing all of these incredible things.
00:24:44.340 Joe Biden can't walk off a stage without help.
00:24:47.440 He can't make it through a speech without bumbling, even on teleprompter.
00:24:51.500 I mean, teleprompters seem to work for everybody except for Joe Biden, who still finds a way to screw it up.
00:24:58.000 So we're dealing with this unprecedented situation, probably since Woodrow Wilson, who was incapacitated at the end of his presidency, was essentially kept on life support while his aides and his wife ran the country.
00:25:09.600 We're dealing with a situation we probably haven't seen since then, where the guy who's supposedly in charge, the guy who has the constitutional authority, isn't really doing the job.
00:25:20.320 And it begs questions about what's really going on behind closed doors in the Biden administration and who's really running our country right now.
00:25:27.660 All very fair points.
00:25:30.680 Let me raise another question with you.
00:25:32.760 You are standing as a candidate in the Republican primary for the office of attorney general in your home state of Missouri.
00:25:43.200 And we're going to show folks where they can go to learn more about your campaign and donate in a moment.
00:25:49.480 But I understand, having been in American politics for 45 years, being a veteran of over 700 individual campaigns, including 13 presidential campaigns, how incredibly demanding running for public office is.
00:26:08.540 It's all consuming.
00:26:10.580 At least it is if you're doing it right.
00:26:12.560 Yet you have one of the most important jobs in the country as a member of the president's legal defense team.
00:26:18.280 So my question to you is, when do you sleep?
00:26:22.900 Yeah, I really don't sleep.
00:26:24.980 I haven't slept in a long time.
00:26:27.060 If I'm a little bleary-eyed, that's the reason.
00:26:29.440 I'll say this, though.
00:26:30.180 I think the voters of Missouri are deeply appreciative of the work that my team and I are doing for President Trump.
00:26:36.400 I think they agree that that's the most important thing I could be doing right now.
00:26:40.780 And I think that, you know, the race is going very well for us. 1.00
00:26:43.840 We've been all over the state.
00:26:45.000 We have supporters in every corner of the state.
00:26:46.960 The situation we have here in Missouri is one where we have this sort of uniparty political establishment that's totally in hock to the lobbyists and the special interests and kind of the permanent political class in Jefferson City, our capital.
00:27:01.900 And I think they're ready for conservative outsiders.
00:27:04.240 They're ready for new blood.
00:27:05.660 They're ready for people who just want to come in and shake up the whole system.
00:27:09.040 And that's what our campaign offers.
00:27:11.240 And I think we're going to have our primaries August 6th.
00:27:14.000 I think we're going to have a very good summer.
00:27:15.920 So we're excited.
00:27:16.940 We're excited about the road ahead.
00:27:18.740 And I'm excited to continue getting to do these two great things, represent President Trump and also get to carry our message to the people of Missouri.
00:27:26.600 Folks, we just put up the website for Will's campaign.
00:27:32.320 Please go by the website.
00:27:34.440 Read a little bit more about him.
00:27:35.520 There you see it again, votesharf.com.
00:27:37.760 Please make a generous contribution to his campaign.
00:27:41.700 I really, in all honesty, Will, I think you are one of the most promising young leaders in the party.
00:27:47.600 I want very much for you to win.
00:27:49.680 So anything we here at the Stone Zone can do in that regard, please let us know.
00:27:56.060 Troy, I'm going to give you a chance at Batnir.
00:27:59.520 A question for Will Scharf.
00:28:03.100 Absolutely.
00:28:03.940 Sir, just as somebody who's dealing with the legal system constantly, how has your faith in the legal system been shaken by all of this?
00:28:10.760 I mean, I have to imagine that you're kind of, it must be almost nightmarish to go through this with President Trump
00:28:17.200 and to see the level to which the system is being weaponized against him.
00:28:20.520 It's got to be amazing for you.
00:28:23.020 Yeah, I mean, I used to be a federal prosecutor.
00:28:25.860 I signed off on search warrants, on arrest warrants.
00:28:29.980 I worked with the U.S. Marshals Service on fugitive apprehension.
00:28:33.640 I mean, the power that we give prosecutors is awesome.
00:28:37.660 It's the power to change lives.
00:28:39.580 It's the power to destroy lives.
00:28:41.720 It's really a frightening thing.
00:28:44.260 And the fact that the left feels entitled to weaponize that power, to pursue their political opponents like President Trump and like so many others,
00:28:53.040 it's one of the scariest developments, I think, in American political history.
00:28:57.200 It could very well lead to the end of the republic if it's not arrested, if we don't win these fights in the months and years ahead.
00:29:04.180 So I think it speaks to a broader unmooring of the modern American left from core notions of constitutionalism of the American republic.
00:29:14.340 I think the modern left believes in one thing and one thing only, which is advancing the cause of leftism.
00:29:19.600 And they're willing to lie, cheat, and steal.
00:29:21.800 They're willing to do literally anything if it gets them one step closer to achieving that objective.
00:29:29.220 And that's just very scary when you're dealing with things like political prosecutions and like the courts.
00:29:35.340 President Trump has said, and I completely agree with him, that we're dealing with banana republic-type tactics here. 0.87
00:29:40.880 I mean, this is the sort of thing that when it happens in other countries, America and England and all of the other great countries immediately condemn and call it out.
00:29:49.920 The idea that you would try to lock up your principal political opponent just because you can on the eve of an election, it truly is banana republic-style tactics.
00:29:59.820 And that's why the stakes are higher now than they ever have been before.
00:30:03.920 If we don't win in November, if we don't take our country back, if we don't put the right people in office, if we don't start getting things back to normal, it's just going to get worse and worse and worse.
00:30:14.480 And I think, you know, America is a beautiful thing.
00:30:17.520 Our constitution is a beautiful thing.
00:30:19.980 The reason the American republic has lasted as long as it has is because of a shared understanding of what our constitutional system is, what it allows and what it doesn't allow.
00:30:29.980 And the left is just running absolutely roughshod over those common understandings now.
00:30:35.580 And that's why we have to win.
00:30:37.380 If we don't win, I think it truly could be the end of the republic.
00:30:41.700 All right.
00:30:42.540 I'm afraid we are out of time.
00:30:44.520 I want to thank my friend Will Scharf, one of the president's most able attorneys and a candidate for the Office of Attorney General of Missouri, for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:30:56.060 Will, you have a permanent invitation here in the Zone anytime you want to come back and have something important to say.
00:31:03.880 Please, please be our guest.
00:31:06.060 Thank you, my friend, and God bless you.
00:31:09.020 Thanks a lot, Roger.
00:31:09.900 Troy, great seeing you.
00:31:11.000 Hope to be with you guys again soon.
00:31:13.020 Great.
00:31:14.280 All right, Troy.
00:31:16.120 Troy, do you remember, it was only months ago when the entire AT&T cell phone system went down.
00:31:24.220 I remember because I was trying to reach you, but I couldn't.
00:31:27.920 I couldn't reach anybody.
00:31:29.860 Millions of people, including me, had no cell phone service.
00:31:35.120 It shows you how incredibly fragile the cellular system is.
00:31:41.340 Vulnerable to terrorists.
00:31:43.760 Vulnerable to hackers.
00:31:47.340 Vulnerable to acts of nature like hurricanes.
00:31:50.760 This, obviously, would really be manifest if there was a total shutdown of the electrical grid.
00:32:00.320 Colonel John Mills, formerly of the Defense Department in the cyberterrorism area, tells us that that's a very real possibility.
00:32:11.760 He's been on this show and said it.
00:32:13.760 So, my answer to this was to go out and get the Iridium 955 phone and the Iridium satellite cell service.
00:32:24.500 That means that your cell phone service is bounced off a proprietary satellite owned by the Iridium company, and that every place on the face of the Earth, any place where you can see the sky, you can make both an encrypted cell phone call and an encrypted text message.
00:32:47.920 This is why the U.S. military and the U.S. Senate use satellite phones.
00:33:04.340 They are meant and built to withstand these harsh conditions.
00:33:10.100 And here's the thing.
00:33:11.940 You get your Iridium 9555 phone for absolutely free.
00:33:18.200 That's right.
00:33:18.900 It's free when you sign up for a 24-month plan at $95.95 a month for your Iridium satellite cell service.
00:33:32.120 There's also a low-cost plan at $85.95.
00:33:37.640 Now, people ask me, well, wait a minute.
00:33:40.060 If the electrical grid goes down, even though you have your satellite, how will I recharge my satellite phone?
00:33:48.060 Easy.
00:33:49.060 If you go to sat123.com slash roger, you will see that they also sell a solar-powered satellite phone recharger.
00:34:01.100 So, you will never be out of communication with your loved ones.
00:34:07.180 You will never be in a situation in which you cannot call for emergency services.
00:34:14.400 So, folks, please check it out.
00:34:17.260 Go to sat123.com slash roger and look into getting your cellular phone service today through the Iridium system.
00:34:29.280 They'll be happy to send you your very own Iridium 9555 phone absolutely free.
00:34:37.020 I love this product.
00:34:38.340 My family now utilizes it.
00:34:41.360 The cell service is clearer and more reliable than AT&T.
00:34:47.820 So, folks, check it out.
00:34:49.920 Okay, Troy, enough of our crass commercial pitches.
00:34:53.900 Let's go to the reason why people tune in to the Stone Zone.
00:34:59.840 Let's talk some politics.
00:35:01.900 What have you got on deck?
00:35:03.760 Well, Roger, I was interested to know if you – to ask if you watched the Dr. Phil, a President Trump interview last night that has gone completely viral.
00:35:12.460 It's had hundreds of millions of views.
00:35:14.220 We have a few clips from that, but I was just wondering right off the bat, did you have a chance to catch that interview?
00:35:18.280 You know, I didn't.
00:35:20.180 I've seen portions of it on X, formerly known as Twitter.
00:35:24.960 I did sit through the first night of the incredible Sean Hannity interview.
00:35:31.780 By the way, I think it was the single best interview Hannity's ever done with Trump.
00:35:36.700 You could see that President Trump was calm, collected, determined, resilient, particularly on the areas of the threat of nuclear war posed by the incompetence and weakness of the Biden administration.
00:35:53.420 I thought it was a great interview.
00:35:56.800 I didn't see all of Dr. Phil.
00:35:59.100 I saw some bites, but let's take a look at what you want to talk about.
00:36:03.160 Well, Roger, the first one, this was the best moment, I think, of the whole interview.
00:36:08.320 Dr. Phil even laughed when President Trump said this.
00:36:11.040 He talked about Adam Schiff and introduced a new name.
00:36:14.200 We don't just have pencil neck now.
00:36:15.940 We have actually a different name for Adam Schiff, thanks to the president.
00:36:19.140 Let's roll that clip now. 1.00
00:36:20.580 These are not stupid people. 1.00
00:36:21.940 I call them watermelon head. 1.00
00:36:23.740 He's got the thinnest neck I've ever seen, how it holds up that head.
00:36:27.040 He's got a neck that's about a size six.
00:36:29.380 Very unattractive guy, both inside and outside.
00:36:31.820 That people say, oh, that's such a terrible thing to say.
00:36:34.160 That's okay.
00:36:34.780 Very unattractive guy.
00:36:35.900 Here's the thing.
00:36:37.020 These are bad people.
00:36:39.480 And I think he has that exactly right.
00:36:44.580 Adam Schiff said, if I may quote, I have seen, what was it, more than circumstantial evidence
00:36:54.720 of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, yet he never produced any because he had never
00:37:00.880 actually seen any.
00:37:01.980 So he lied for two and a half years to the American people, and it hurt the country very
00:37:09.040 badly.
00:37:10.000 He was censured, by the way, by the U.S. House, among those voting against his censure, Oklahoma
00:37:17.380 Congressman Tom Cole.
00:37:19.400 Tom Cole is one of the barons of the House Republican establishment.
00:37:25.260 He's the kind of congressman who wears a diamond-studded pinky ring and hangs out at the bar at the Capitol
00:37:32.260 Hill Club.
00:37:33.240 He's registered to vote in Oklahoma in a single-family house owned by a trust controlled by his wife.
00:37:40.620 But, well, the neighbors haven't seen him in about 22 years.
00:37:46.480 Tom Cole hasn't voted in person in the state of Oklahoma since 2002, the year he was elected.
00:37:53.960 In every election after that, he's voted by absentee ballot.
00:37:58.140 One of the few people who, few Republicans, to vote against Adam Schiff's censure.
00:38:07.440 I'm watching closely the primary there in Oklahoma's fourth district because the rhinos are being 1.00
00:38:17.840 challenged as never before, and they really hate it.
00:38:22.520 All right, let's continue.
00:38:23.780 Well, Roger, we also had a speech from President Trump from a few days ago, and we didn't really
00:38:29.780 get a chance to go over this, but he revealed that there are actually new updated fundraising
00:38:33.740 numbers since he was found guilty, and the number has risen to $400 million.
00:38:38.180 So let's roll a clip of President Trump discussing the $400 million that's been raised since Juan
00:38:43.140 Merchant's political witch hunt found him guilty.
00:38:45.620 I just went through a rigged trial in New York with a highly conflicted, and I mean highly
00:38:56.820 conflicted judge, where there was no crime.
00:39:00.860 It was made up, fabricated stuff.
00:39:04.300 They didn't want to bring the case.
00:39:06.120 They could have brought the case seven years ago.
00:39:08.340 It's only when you run for office they bring cases.
00:39:10.520 But they would have done that seven years ago thing, not in the middle of my presidential
00:39:15.720 campaign, where we're beating Biden, by the way, by a lot.
00:39:18.660 Did you see?
00:39:25.400 And by the way, right after the announcement of this, more campaign funds were given to
00:39:31.300 this campaign than any campaign they think in history, almost $400 million, $400.
00:39:41.500 Now, it's never been, nobody's ever seen, because they know it was rigged.
00:39:45.340 They know it's a corrupt system.
00:39:47.280 They know all about it.
00:39:48.500 But with your help, less than five months from now, and we're going, and I'll tell you what,
00:39:53.440 we have to change the system.
00:39:54.800 We have to straighten out what's going on in these courts.
00:39:57.140 We've got a rigged deal going, this whole country, and we've got to do it.
00:40:02.120 And those appellate courts have to step up and straighten things out, or we're not going 0.82
00:40:06.220 to have a country in it.
00:40:09.260 The $400 million number just boggles the mind.
00:40:12.660 And by the way, that was, you know, a day ago.
00:40:15.660 So I guarantee you, it's more today.
00:40:18.620 The president hitting the campaign trail immediately, speaking yesterday in Arizona,
00:40:24.180 speaking this weekend in Las Vegas, both on Saturday and Sunday, Nevada, a crucial swing
00:40:34.480 state.
00:40:35.600 So interesting, the instant the president is not weighed down by these phony proceedings
00:40:42.420 in New York, he immediately hits the stump.
00:40:46.120 And I'm going to be watching the polls very carefully here.
00:40:51.260 Now, I've said this on the show, but you can't poll public events in the eye of the storm.
00:40:58.940 You have to let things settle down.
00:41:01.760 And therefore, the impact of the president's unjust conviction in New York cannot really be
00:41:09.760 fully measured, either the positive or the negative.
00:41:14.360 It cannot yet be fully measured.
00:41:17.600 But what I have seen so far shows very little movement, that those who were for him have not
00:41:24.420 dropped off.
00:41:25.220 He continues to hold his strength.
00:41:28.180 Joe Biden continues to trail.
00:41:30.840 Joe had a bad week crapping his pants on stage in Florida.
00:41:37.200 I think we showed you that yesterday.
00:41:38.760 No, that's what he did, folks.
00:41:41.300 He crapped his pants. 0.76
00:41:43.500 It's embarrassing.
00:41:44.880 The president of the United States, I think, has to symbolize strength and confidence and
00:41:52.640 assuredness.
00:41:53.840 People look to the president.
00:41:55.820 They want to know how their country is doing.
00:41:57.940 And if the president seems confident or strong, I think it builds the people's confidence.
00:42:04.500 This president is doddering.
00:42:06.500 It's actually embarrassing.
00:42:09.440 In fact, Troy, for Monday's show, I'm going to have you put together a loop of Joe's Greatest
00:42:14.800 Hits because this guy doesn't know what day of the week it is.
00:42:18.280 No, and he continues to struggle, Roger, and it comes back to what I think our guest Will
00:42:24.960 Sharp was talking about, the double standard.
00:42:27.460 I found it incredibly interesting, Roger, that just a few months ago, this kind of got swept
00:42:31.420 under the rug, that there was a legal argument being made against the Trump team in the immunity
00:42:37.200 case that it was pertaining to, could President Trump, or any president for that matter, send
00:42:45.520 SEAL Team 6 to assassinate any political members or anything like that?
00:42:50.480 And that was kind of the argument.
00:42:51.620 And there was a, the Trump legal team said yes, and we discussed that on the show, and we, I think you
00:42:57.160 disagreed with it, and I've heard many prominent people disagree with the position that the
00:43:01.900 president could order this.
00:43:03.640 And then we get news, Roger, that Joe Biden authorized the use of deadly force, and Merrick
00:43:09.260 Garland authorized the use of deadly force in the Mar-a-Lago raid.
00:43:12.420 So while they, in the Trump immunity case, are like, well, you know, does Trump think that
00:43:17.360 he has the right to assassinate his political opponents?
00:43:20.000 They issued a search warrant on Trump's property where they had a kill order, where they could
00:43:24.720 have killed any member of the former first family.
00:43:28.300 So I think it's, you know, it just, the double standard that's present in any of this, Roger,
00:43:32.640 is pretty astounding.
00:43:33.820 And even for you, somebody who's seen so much politically, it just has to amaze you every
00:43:38.400 day the depths to which these people are going to attack Donald Trump.
00:43:42.420 It is really quite extraordinary.
00:43:46.200 What else do you have for us here in the video arcade?
00:43:50.480 Well, there was one video, Roger, from the Dr. Phil interview that I wanted to play, and
00:43:55.320 I just want to start by saying, you know, I think personally, the reason that we're seeing
00:44:00.040 what's happening right now is because President Trump chose not to go after Hillary Clinton.
00:44:05.380 He decided to put down his sword after the 2016 election, and he decided that it was better
00:44:10.260 for the country to kind of move on.
00:44:11.860 Well, we see now with the Biden administration that people like Hillary Clinton are the ones
00:44:15.820 that are pulling the strings and putting him in the situation where he's in the hush money
00:44:20.080 trial, where he's in the documents case, where he's in the J6 trial.
00:44:24.600 And this was brought up last night by Dr. Phil, and I disagree with Dr. Phil on this.
00:44:28.740 He was kind of trying to push onto Trump that he should not go after the people that are doing
00:44:35.360 this to him and perverting the law in order to persecute the president.
00:44:39.600 So let's roll that clip, and I want to get your thoughts on this, Roger, because I think
00:44:42.240 it's an interesting question.
00:44:43.260 I think you have so much to do, you don't have time to get even. You only have time to get right.
00:44:52.000 Well, revenge does take time, I will say that.
00:44:54.360 It does.
00:44:54.900 And sometimes revenge can be justified, Phil. I have to be honest.
00:44:58.540 Sometimes it can.
00:44:59.800 But is the country better or worse for them going after you?
00:45:02.400 I think the country is really worse for what they've done, and I think you see that when
00:45:06.960 you look at the poll numbers. When you see that almost $400 million has poured in since
00:45:12.740 this horrible decision was made. That was a few days ago. Numbers that nobody's ever heard
00:45:20.920 of in politics before. It's a great honor. The people of our country get it. You know,
00:45:26.520 they're very smart. Taken as a whole, I have to say, they're very smart. But it's been an honor
00:45:31.920 being with you. It really has. And I think you'd be very proud of the job we do.
00:45:35.660 You know, I noticed the other day that the Cretans at Media Matters for America, the children
00:45:41.060 that work there, took a bite of our show trying to imply that we spoke about revenge when I
00:45:48.020 specifically said, no, we don't need revenge. What we need is equal protection under the law.
00:45:53.420 People who have violated the law should be prosecuted, regardless of party, no matter whether
00:45:58.280 you're a Republican or a Democrat. I think there were acts of treason in this country in the last
00:46:03.940 eight years. And I don't know why those who are guilty of treason should be given immunity.
00:46:10.660 And I said nothing about revenge. But these people are twisted freaks anyway. So I hope they're 0.95
00:46:17.240 enjoying the Stone Zone. Troy, I think the president said it right there. No, he's not on a revenge tour.
00:46:26.240 That's a media creation. See, when the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Wall Street
00:46:31.040 Journal and the three networks say the same thing at the same time, it's coordinated messaging.
00:46:38.760 In other words, they have violated Trump's rights and sought to destroy him in an unprecedented
00:46:45.620 tsunami of lawfare. But the prosecution of any Democrat for crimes in the next administration,
00:46:52.740 well, that would be wrongful because it's revenge. Please. This is laughable nonsense.
00:46:59.080 I think it is, Roger. And I think they live on the double standard. You know, they live on the idea 0.80
00:47:06.540 that Jen Psaki can defy a subpoena, but Steve Bannon can't. They live on the idea that James
00:47:12.240 Comey can pervert the rule of law. He can pervert the criminal justice system. He can use the
00:47:17.760 intelligence agencies to go after people and to prop himself up, being obsessed with himself,
00:47:22.460 an egotistical narcissist, James Comey. And that's okay because he happens to agree with
00:47:27.800 the Democrats. And that's, I think what's the American people are looking at this and that they
00:47:32.040 see it. And I think president Trump's right in that regard. The people are smart and they see
00:47:37.180 that the country under Joe Biden, Roger, continues to fall apart. We had news this morning that the
00:47:42.700 unemployment rate has continued to rise under president. Joe Biden is ticked up to 4%. Now let's roll a
00:47:50.140 newscast talking about those new economic numbers and get Roger's thoughts on the Biden economy on
00:47:55.180 the other side of that video. If we look at the unemployment rate for the first time since
00:48:00.140 January of 22, it hit 4%. Yes, 4%.
00:48:05.140 There's an amazing piece in Zero Hedge in which the Labor Department essentially admitted that virtually
00:48:13.780 every one of the new jobs created in the last year has been taken by an illegal immigrant. No,
00:48:21.140 I'm not making that up. I'm going to put it up on the Stone Zone this afternoon. The Democrats have
00:48:28.320 nothing to run on, Troy. They want this election to be about Donald Trump's a convicted felon,
00:48:35.360 January 6, abortion. And that's essentially their platform. They would have us believe that Roe v.
00:48:45.680 Wade canceled a woman's legal right to an abortion, which of course is not even remotely true. So that's
00:48:54.640 that's what they want this election to be about. Not about the state of the economy, not about gasoline
00:49:01.360 prices, not about the inflation rate, not about the incredibly dangerous path to World War III. The
00:49:12.480 conviction of the president so completely dominated the press that many people may not have noticed that
00:49:19.520 the Biden administration approved the use of U.S. missiles to make attacks inside Russia on behalf of
00:49:28.640 Ukraine. This would never have been done under Donald Trump. I don't even think it would have been done under
00:49:35.040 Barack Obama. But here we are, American attacks on Russian assets. Perhaps this is why the Russians have 0.98
00:49:44.160 moved a special class of nuclear submarines into the Gulf of Mexico. We're getting closer and closer to
00:49:51.920 World War III. But don't look over there, folks. Look over here at Donald Trump. It's really, it's
00:50:00.000 frightening. I thought President Trump was particularly effective in his interview with Sean Hannity on this
00:50:08.080 particular topic. Well, I agree with you, Roger. In that interview, obviously, the second part aired
00:50:14.080 last night, I was able to catch some of it. And it was it was a very good interview. The second part was
00:50:19.440 just as good as the first part. And I would recommend everybody go check that out. And I think, you know,
00:50:25.200 you're exactly right. They want us focused on President Trump. They want us focused on the legal cases
00:50:30.240 against him when all of these cases are manufactured. They are brought in by the Justice Department,
00:50:36.880 who's pressuring prosecutors to go after President Joe Biden's chief political opposition. And we've
00:50:43.520 never seen anything like it in the United States. And it's amazing to see these people in the media who
00:50:48.960 are completely tone deaf, who don't see that the majority of Americans see these prosecutions for
00:50:54.160 exactly what they are, persecutions. And the idea that they go up there and they champion these
00:51:00.640 things is, oh, this is the justice system at work. It just proves to the most Americans out there who
00:51:06.000 have negative dealings with the justice system as a whole, that things are as corrupt as they've ever
00:51:13.040 been. And Trump's appeal as an outsider, as somebody who can change that, I think, Roger, is stronger now
00:51:20.160 than it was even in 2016. Because now we have the four years of Trump's record to show that, no,
00:51:26.000 this is a guy that does follow through on his promises. This is a guy that does follow through
00:51:30.640 on the things that he's telling the American people. So when he goes out to a rally and he says,
00:51:34.480 I'm going to do X, Y, Z, it's not just a political talking point like it has been for the last 50 years,
00:51:40.080 Roger. He's actually going to do these things if elected. And I think that's the most beautiful part.
00:51:46.080 It's also the part that drives the media the most crazy. Because for them, politics is about covering
00:51:51.600 things up and masquerading falsehoods as truths and lying. And when President Trump goes out there
00:51:58.240 and he's honest and a good communicator and he tells people honestly what he's going to do and
00:52:03.440 he has the four years of experience to back up that he's going to follow through on it, I think that's
00:52:08.080 an electric political situation that I've never seen in my life and I don't think anybody has ever
00:52:14.960 seen in politics. It's truly astounding. And while that's all going on, Roger, President Trump kind
00:52:19.680 of overseeing this political realignment of the United States, President Joe Biden gets worse and
00:52:25.280 worse and worse. Now, I've covered Biden extensively, Roger, since he got into the Oval Office.
00:52:30.960 This last interview that he did with David Muir on ABC News is the worst I've ever seen him,
00:52:36.320 and it's not close. We have a clip where he talks about Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel. He mistakes
00:52:43.840 Rafa for Russia. He doesn't even know what he's talking about and he just seems completely confused
00:52:48.960 and out of it. Let's roll that clip and get your thoughts on President Joe Biden's mental capacity
00:52:54.320 and cognitive ability on the other side of this clip. Is Benjamin Netanyahu listening to you?
00:52:59.520 I think he's listening to me. They were going to go into Rafa full bore, invade all of Rafa,
00:53:07.440 go into the city, take it out, move, move with full force. They haven't done that. And what they've done
00:53:14.480 is they've agreed to a significant agreement that if in fact Hamas accepts it. And look,
00:53:20.800 it's being backed by Egypt, being backed by the Saudis, being backed by almost the whole Arab world.
00:53:30.080 Yeah, really quite extraordinary. Troy, I don't know if you saw this, but Chris Matthews, remember
00:53:36.640 him? He got fired by MSNBC for being a sexual predator, but they had him back on yesterday. 0.59
00:53:44.800 And he said that if Donald Trump is reelected, he's going to put his political opponents before 0.95
00:53:50.480 firing squads. Have you seen the president say that any place? Oh, absolutely not. That's ridiculous.
00:53:57.680 So why do we have a sexual predator coming on the air attacking the president based on things 1.00
00:54:05.360 that he never said? It's ironic because when Donald Trump married Melania at the Bethesda-by-the-sea
00:54:14.080 church in Palm Beach, my wife and I were seated next to Chris Matthews and his wife. Chris Matthews
00:54:22.240 was a great friend of Donald Trump. Donald Trump did Chris Matthews show numerous times when he was
00:54:30.640 thinking about running for the presidency in 2000. He did these college format shows that Chris
00:54:40.080 Matthews did. Chris Matthews loved Donald Trump right up until the time that he decided to run for
00:54:47.120 president. Disgraceful that they have Chris Matthews back on the air, given his record as a sexual predator. 0.98
00:54:57.440 But then he's the one guest who they can guarantee is not going to ask Joe Scarborough about the intern 0.86
00:55:05.280 in his office who died. Another question, another issue on which we have many, many questions.
00:55:14.400 Well, and Roger, as far as Chris Matthews goes, you know, all you have to do is look, you know,
00:55:18.800 they fired Ronna McDaniel. Ronna McDaniel was hired by NBC to be an analyst. And here's a woman who was 1.00
00:55:25.520 involved in the highest levels of Republican politics, would be a fantastic analyst to have on
00:55:30.320 just for her inside information and her contacts. I don't agree with Ronna McDaniel on anything.
00:55:35.360 But the idea of her being a contributor, being somebody who has asked questions about the
00:55:38.960 Republican Party and things like that, she's pretty credible source, as credible as anybody.
00:55:43.680 And they fired her. And they fired her because she was Republican. And they claim that, oh,
00:55:49.680 she's too close to Donald Trump. Well, they have the former White House press secretary on prime time news. 1.00