Glenn Rhodes is a founder of the Colorado Nanotechnology Initiative, a pioneer in nanotechnology, and an expert in the areas of nanotechnology and nanomaterials. He is also a former executive at Martin Marietta, Lockheed Martin, Home Depot, Best Buys, and Lowe s, as well as working for the Jefferson County Government in Florida. He spent 30 years in various government positions, including stints at the National Science Foundation and the National Institute of Standards and Engineering, and was a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Joint Improving Energy Infrastructure Task Force (JISI), a joint venture with the Department of Energy. He has also worked for the National Transportation Safety Board, the Office of Emergency Management and Homeland Security, and the Federal Reserve, among other organizations. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times bestselling author, and is a longtime friend and advisor to President Donald Trump. The Stone Zone, with Roger Stone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, served as the senior strategist for three Republican presidential candidates, and has been a long-time friend and adviser to three other presidents. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at thousands of public events, and spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone is a pop culture icon. And now here s your host Roger Stone is your host, and now your host? co-host Troy Smith joins us now! in The Stonezone . Roger Stone: Editor in Chief of Slingshot News and Editor-in- Contributing Editor-In-Chief Troy Smith Managing Editor-Author-Chief- Editor- in-Chief, Producer-in Chief- Senior Media Director- Executive- Contributor- and Senior Media Strategist- Chief Data Scientist- ( ) Senior Social Media Consultant- , Executive Editor- Founder- Managing Director- . Senior Public Relations Specialist- Media Strategy Consultant - Senior Communications Strategist - Chief of The Daily Beast Founder of The StoneZine Public Relations Director - Chief Information Systems CEO- President- Associate-
00:02:25.680You remember how frustrated I was that day with no cell service.
00:02:29.780And then I began to look at the bigger picture and the vulnerability of our power grid, the possibility of not hurricanes, which is a relatively common thing here in Florida, where both of us live.
00:02:46.520In Florida, we've seen the power knocked out by hurricanes, and that gives you a small sample of what could happen nationwide.
00:02:57.100So, a mutual friend in California recommended Glenn Rhodes.
00:03:03.220Glenn Rhodes is a founder of the Colorado Nanotech Initiative.
00:03:08.800He spent 30 years at Martin Marietta, Lockheed Martin, Home Depot, Best Buys, Lowe's, as well as working for the Jefferson County government.
00:03:41.960Look, I gave your distinguished background kind of short shrift, so I'm going to let you do it.
00:03:47.620Tell us more, tell my audience more about you so they will understand that when you make some shocking statements here today, you're a man who knows, based on experience, what he's talking about.
00:04:04.040So, I was educated with a degree in urban architecture and planning from the University of Colorado, and it was all about sustainable habitat, right?
00:04:13.760We're all concerned about sustainable habitat, and as you know, growing up in the 70s, we're all about save the planet, you know, and everything's got to be green and everything, which is good, but we never had really the studies on energy architecture and everything that's related to human sustainable habitat.
00:04:32.520So, fast forward to, I graduate from the University of Colorado, somehow I end up as being an aerospace planner instead of being an urban planner, just because of a misunderstanding of planning and what that meant.
00:04:45.620I was hired by Martin to be an engineering planner, and it gave me a good background in science.
00:04:52.300So, right now, I feel like I got a PhD in physics from all the stuff I've learned since I was 56 years old, and I woke up to a eureka moment with the Fukushima nuclear disaster.
00:05:01.960But the bottom line is this, I had started an initiative in Colorado to work on nanotechnology for the National Science Foundation.
00:05:14.360So, I was doing that, and we were able to get a lab in Colorado to do a nanotechnology education characterization and fabrication, and did that.
00:05:25.600So, I always had a background in how the community could use science, and I was acting as an interpreter.
00:05:31.600So, all of a sudden, fast forward to March 11, 2011, and all of a sudden, Fukushima nuclear disaster happened, and I couldn't understand.
00:05:49.460And it bothered me, and I couldn't go to sleep.
00:05:51.840She said, well, you need to do some research.
00:05:53.400So, I typed in long-duration power outage, and it led me to a guy named Dr. Daniel Baker, who's the director of laboratory and atmospheric and space physics in Boulder.
00:06:02.460And I said, Dan, I'm just an ordinary citizen, but can I talk to you about something that's on my mind?
00:06:17.220He said, well, unbeknownst to most of the people, we had a series of congressional reports that were basically initiated by Dr. Roscoe Bartlett and Kurt Weldon.
00:06:32.900And they were doing some salt negotiation talks, and one of the generals quipped, you know, I don't know why we're wasting time doing this.
00:06:39.460We can just wipe you out with two bombs.
00:06:41.060And Kurt Weldon and boss Bartlett said, what do you mean?
00:06:46.620He goes, well, we could just EMP you to death, you know, and we would just sit back and watch your whole society just disintegrate.
00:06:53.420So, they went with their hair on fire to the Congress, and fortunately, my former boss, Dr. Peter Prye, who was on the House Armed Services Committee,
00:07:03.880heard about this, and they decided they would start an EMP congressional commission to study the effects of electromagnetism on society.
00:07:13.200So, they produced a number of reports, 2004, 6, 8, 17, and it basically said, if we get hit with a grid down, electronic civilization down outage,
00:07:25.100we will lose probably between 200 and 210, up to 310 million Americans within the first year, and it's probably going to be a lot sooner.
00:07:35.580And I told Baker, I said, how is that possible?
00:07:39.640I mean, were you going to get radiated or something?
00:07:46.760And Dr. Peter Prye, back in the 80s, did a series of lectures when he was at Langley, and Roger, he said, in one briefing, he was briefing some guys,
00:07:58.360and he went up to the blackboard, and he said, guys, it's all about electricity, energy, and water.
00:08:03.560And these are the existential threats that could destroy our civilization, and we need to wake up and smell the coffee.
00:08:10.540So, I wanted to give my hats, kudos off to Dr. Peter Prye.
00:08:15.640So, after this briefing with George Baker, he said, go talk to a couple of guys.
00:08:19.700So, I talked to Bill Murtaugh at the Space Weather Prediction Center.
00:08:22.560I talked to Dr. John Darragh, who's a retired chief scientist for the Air Force Space Command, and then I talked to Peter Prye.
00:08:29.360And this was in 84, and I said, Dr. Prye, somebody gave me your name, and I would like to help you out.
00:09:03.840And I said, listen, as you work trying to get people in Washington up to speed, let me create an organization around you of volunteers, just patriots, that understand the message.
00:09:39.540I'm very curious about how imminent the danger is in this country to an attack on our infrastructure, specifically an attack on the electrical grid.
00:09:55.880If you heard the opening, it freaked me out to be without cell phone service for four hours about a week ago.
00:10:02.740I can't imagine what it would be like if the entire country was without cell phone service, without electricity, without the ability to cook, to heat their homes, to air condition their homes, to pump water, which requires electricity.
00:10:20.540How real is this threat, in your opinion?
00:10:26.760And unfortunately, when Nikola Tesla and Westinghouse and Edison created the power grid, the modern power grid, they weren't thinking about the ways to destroy it.
00:10:38.060The nation was growing, and Nikola Tesla said – and actually, if we had followed Edison's Pearl Street Station in downtown New York City,
00:10:47.040we probably wouldn't have had the problems we had now because it was a direct current microgrid that just sent out bursts of energy to a relatively local area.
00:11:00.040But Nikola Tesla said, hey, wait a second, guys.
00:11:02.320We can alternate power and do power along the long lines of distribution.
00:11:07.720And without knowing it, because he didn't know at the time that the vulnerability is there, and we created this open architecture of millions – not millions, but I should say hundreds of ways that we could disrupt the power grid, okay?
00:11:21.080So there's a number of different ways that could happen, Roger.
00:11:23.960One is we could have a cyber attack, okay?
00:11:28.560And as you may or may not know, some people in our task force alerted Rebecca Smith with the Wall Street Journal that said, hey, we think we have vulnerabilities in these Chinese transformers that are coming over.
00:11:45.340And lo and behold, we've distributed them along many, many different places, and we don't know what's going on yet.
00:11:59.460I don't need to know the answer, but I do need to have a comfort level that's being addressed, and it's not – I don't think it's being addressed to our satisfaction.
00:12:06.760So we're trying to get the DOE and some of the other people to say, we got it covered, Glenn, and we want to know because we want some people in Congress to know that it's being addressed, right?
00:12:17.420So that's one thing, the cyber attack.
00:12:19.460The other thing is a coronal mass ejection from the sun, okay?
00:12:22.740So the sun has a flare that spits out a tremendous amount of energy.
00:12:27.460It's like a flash of a muzzle on a cannon.
00:12:30.320And that has direct interference with our radio communications at higher frequencies right off the bat.
00:12:36.320In fact, I was in the spacecraft – the Space Weather Prediction Center on Tuesday at 10.51 Mountain Time when we had the largest solar flare in an X8.1 in the last 20 years, which is really amazing to be there because all of a sudden this audible thing came alert.
00:12:57.300And an X-class one or higher solar flare is now in progress.
00:13:03.820And we saw the screen where the whole entire North and South American continent turned baby blue on the screen, and then it rose to red.
00:13:14.640So even though it was directed – so if you see that picture in back of me, you know, if you can imagine on the side having a side blow like that, the current solar field that's giving us all this problem is going around the backside of the sun.
00:13:28.960But it was – it shot it out, but we still got the interference.
00:13:32.260So they immediately called Vandenberg Air Force Base and said, hey, you need to scrub that at launch because at the ultra-high frequencies, we do not have the ability to track satellites and rockets and other things to go haywire.
00:13:45.420But that – if one of those things was directed towards us, Roger, what would happen is it may create a vulnerability in all the 2,500 transformers that are the backbone of our electrical grid.
00:14:00.000If those things go, we've just lost our civilization.
00:14:04.500And it won't only be the United States.
00:14:07.460We would probably lose 60% of the global population because if we don't have the transformers and they take 18 months just to make one, they weigh 400 to 500 tons, we lose the process to process and purify our waste.
00:14:25.500So the people that will go first, if we get through the gauntlet of a collapse of law enforcement, we go through the gauntlet.
00:14:34.560The next gauntlet is diphtheria cholera and typhoid, Roger.
00:14:39.900And so we're trying to advocate, as Peter Pryde advocated, for figuring out how we can harden those big, giant transformers to make sure they're protected.
00:14:50.980And there are some things, Roger, that we can do right away, right, to do that.
00:14:54.880Glenn, we're going to go to a quick commercial message.
00:14:59.040When we come back, Troy Smith are going to ask you and I are both going to ask you exactly what those things we need to do to avert this disaster are.
00:18:27.720Well, I would say most vulnerable is we have to eliminate the potential to turn off our high-voltage transformers.
00:18:35.920Because, you know, I had a senior advisor tell me, Glenn, you've got a lot of people.
00:18:40.780It's like looking in the football stand and looking down at the field, and you've got a thousand different rabbit holes, okay?
00:18:45.860You could sprinkle your guys everywhere and go down all the rabbit holes, and you won't make a hill of difference, right?
00:18:52.000However, if you can identify two or three things that we can do right away, it may save the country, okay?
00:18:58.560The number one would be we need to have congressional action to bring down a transformer, take it offline for maybe a week or maybe less, drain the mineral oil, get in there with a hazmat suit, and see if there's a vulnerability.
00:19:14.900So, to make sure that thing's not communicating in or out of the substation, that it could be remotely turned off.
00:19:22.220And you and I, Troy, talked about, I don't think they want to destroy these things, but they will turn them off.
00:19:27.400And if they're turned off, we'll be helpless.
00:19:32.820So, I would say the number one thing is we need to eliminate those.
00:19:37.740Number two, and along with that, is we need to practice air gap hardening.
00:19:43.380I call it the iron dome of cyber threats.
00:19:46.820In other words, we need to work at, as a nation, eliminating anything that is connected to the internet or any type of cyber vulnerability and air gap it so that it cannot communicate with anybody so it can't be hacked.
00:20:05.600Because, and I'm not telling, I'm not saying everything, but those things that are critical for life-sustaining infrastructure.
00:20:12.980Like, for example, you don't want to have your wastewater treatment plant talking to China and have them turn it off, right?
00:20:18.860I mean, that's just a general statement.
00:20:21.460So, we need to air gap anything that's related to critical infrastructure and eliminate that vulnerability right off the bat.
00:20:28.480So, that goes along with the transformer thing.
00:20:31.160Number two, we need to have an integrated approach.
00:20:34.960And we've tried to do it with the nation, with the SIPA Act.
00:20:39.120I mean, we've tried, I think 20 states have tried 43 different times, including Texas, eight times to try to do something and everything fails.
00:20:49.880So, number two would be to set a pathfinder project of a small community that we can migrate stuff that we've already put into military installations and hardened military facilities and migrated into a community to be the pathfinder to deploy this stuff.
00:21:08.540Once we get it all done, because right now we're shooting from the hips about how much it's going to cost.
00:21:13.500Until we do an engineering analysis and actually do something, we're just pulling numbers out of the air and nobody knows how much it really costs.
00:21:21.900You know, as an analyst and a cost account manager for space engineers, we had to track cost and schedule variances.
00:21:36.380Number three, I would say boots on the ground.
00:21:39.540If we can get Congress working with all the state governors to actually have – I don't care if it's a deputy dog.
00:21:47.400I don't care if it's a couple privates.
00:21:48.860If you have critical infrastructure substations, maybe you weed them in with the ones that are critical, with some that are not so critical to confuse the enemy, and you have a person on the ground, how much is it going to cost to have two soldiers at critical substations with their flashing lights on?
00:22:07.840It's going to cost a hell of a lot less money than deploying something.
00:22:11.920And it would – they'd have to outrun a radio signal.
00:22:16.000Yes, it's worth every penny, and it's not that much.
00:22:20.200So, I would say those three things right off the bat.
00:22:24.120So, I mean, let's not cut off too big a piece of cake.
00:22:29.100If we could just do that, we might be able to save civilization.
00:22:32.780And then I think as an added icing on the cake, we need to deploy anything that is fragmented.
00:22:40.600In other words, if you have – Troy, if you're hiding a technology that's going to be able to be put in my house, okay, we want you to step forward right now and get that in my house.
00:22:53.480Because we need to fragment the grid so that one guy doesn't blow up the fat-sucking pig.
00:23:00.760And that's why I tell the greenies, I said, listen, if we put all the energy into renewable energies, but this big, giant fossil fuel pig, which I know is inefficient, if that thing dies, we don't have the gap to fill in.
00:23:17.500If Elon Musk and Bezos and Bill Gates are listening to me right now, say, stop whatever you're doing.
00:23:25.080I say, get a deployed, fragmented energy system into communities to save the country above all else.
00:23:34.940And then we might have a civilization to go to the moon sometime.
00:23:38.480But if we don't, we don't have to worry about going to the moon or Mars or anywhere, right?
00:23:44.120Because we won't get – we won't exist as a country.
00:23:46.900So I would say those things in particular.
00:23:50.660Glenn, I guess the real question is, do you have any level of confidence that our current government is fully aware of these potential problems and that they are acting in a manner to be prepared, as you have outlined?
00:24:08.480Well, you know, I think that's a fair question.
00:24:12.360And Peter Prye briefed President Trump last time.
00:24:56.720It's kind of like the Titanic when it hit the iceberg, you know, and the chief architect was on there, and they said this, this, and this compartment were compromised.
00:25:05.720And he just looked at everybody and said, this ship will flounder.
00:25:12.320And so that's where we're at right now because right now, as I speak, we are at war with our adversaries, even though nobody knows about it, and with the sun, the natural and the human-made vulnerabilities of the power grid.
00:25:29.960We're at war, and we have to figure out how to survive, or else the only people that will survive an EMP, possibly a nuclear war, I don't even know if they will do it, are the 25 million Bedouins who roam around in the Saudi Arabian Peninsula, right, and the nomads, the aborigines in Australia, who don't rely on the electrical power grid for their existence.
00:25:52.200So we will have pockets of humanity that will survive.
00:25:56.480Because they haven't relied on the electrical power grid, which super extends our sustainable capacity to live, the carrying capacity of our environment.
00:26:11.420And that's what electricity has allowed us to do.
00:26:14.060And people in the 60% of the global population that are in cities, those are going to be the first to go.
00:26:21.000And the only thing I say is, if you're in a city when all this happens, you need to go to the country as soon as possible.
00:26:27.740It will be an absolute mess if you try to stick it out in the cities.
00:27:22.400Peter was, Peter, bless his heart, was saying, you know, the world is going to fall if we don't address this.
00:27:27.500But he was always saying, my hope is that some people will be wise enough to address the issue and maybe cause our civilization to function.
00:39:45.380Nobody could be expected to memorize verbatim what other people had said.
00:39:51.580Trump does plenty talking on his own behalf.
00:39:54.580But let's remember that he's at least partially gagged in this trial.
00:40:00.800And therefore, he's really not allowed to defend himself.
00:40:04.960Reading the opinions of others, like, for example, Jonathan Turley, the George Washington
00:40:12.780University college professor, law professor, writes for the New York Post, being a perfect
00:40:18.420example, does not in any way reflect on Trump's inability to have something to say.
00:40:25.080If anything, the president has more than enough to say.
00:40:29.340This trial does not seem to be going very well for the prosecutors.
00:40:34.960Michael Cohen seems to have been a giant disappointment on the stand, both in terms of the case he laid
00:40:44.800out for the government, where I don't believe he ever was able to establish Trump's knowledge
00:40:51.160or ability in these complicated financial transactions, but also where Soros funded prosecutor Alvin Bragg has been unable to demonstrate what the underlying crime is here that makes this a criminal trial.
00:41:10.540In other words, the entry into the Trump organization books calling the payments a legal expense when they are, in fact, a legal expense.
00:42:10.120Now, strangely, Judge Juan Merchant has barred Trump and his lawyers from making those two facts known to the jury.
00:42:21.340To me, that smacks of their efforts to rig this trial.
00:42:25.500Why would you not want the jury to know that two previous investigations, actually three, because the investigator Mark Pomerantz, who strangely left Washington to join Alvin Bragg's staff, even he concluded that this was not a crime on which Trump could be prosecuted.
00:42:49.080But, again, the judge will not allow Trump's lawyers to put Mr. Pomerantz on the stand or to question him.
00:42:59.560By all accounts, the cross-examination of Cohen by Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's lawyer, was masterful in terms of, once again, demonstrating that it was Cohen who was behind these transactions.
00:43:18.340It was Cohen who went out and took a home equity loan without the knowledge of his wife, without the knowledge of Donald Trump, in order to make the payments to Keith Davidson, the attorney who was representing Stormy Daniels.
00:43:36.120It appears to me like this entire thing was done by Michael Cohen as a way to try to prove his loyalty to Donald Trump and presumably as a way to try to get a position in the Trump administration.
00:43:55.540We know, I know this firsthand, Michael Cohen was furious about the fact that he was not named as attorney general.
00:44:05.100He was furious about the fact that he was not named as White House counsel.
00:44:10.020He was furious about the fact that he was not the White House chief of staff.
00:45:02.440I think he did more damage than he did good for Mr. Bragg's case, and like Americans across the country.
00:45:09.400I'm praying that there is just one juror, one juror who is fair-minded, one juror who is not politically motivated, one juror who can look at the facts and realize that Donald Trump is innocent.
00:45:24.740That's all it would take to hang this jury.
00:45:28.280They would be unable to reach a conclusion.
00:45:56.720This isn't the rule of law that the left likes to talk so much about, but which they really don't, as you know, actually respect.
00:46:07.720No, it doesn't seem that they have any respect for themselves even, Roger, and that's evident by the witnesses that they bring up.
00:46:13.460I mean, Stormy Daniels was going off about how she believes in ghosts and she believes that she's in contact with spirits and things of that nature.
00:46:21.280I mean, this woman, look, there's a lot of problems with just about every witness that they've brought forth.
00:46:26.000And when you get into Keith Davidson and the revelations that Bubba Clem, the legendary radio host, made on this show, it reveals really what this case is all about, Roger.
00:46:35.780And my question to you would be, you know, everyone's saying, oh, like you said, it's political that these people are going up there.
00:46:42.720But to me, this case is about much more than that, in that we are figuring out just about right now how a presidential candidate who really is without it.
00:46:53.080I mean, even his detractors have to have to admit that he's the most popular political figure in America in at least the last hundred years, probably of all time.
00:47:02.400And it's not, I don't think, really that close.
00:47:05.480And you look at his popularity, the number of people that will come to see him at a rally and things of that nature.
00:47:11.460And the political system is so angry that he's getting the attention, that he's the champion of the people, that they're coming after him.
00:47:19.460And they don't ever want him to be in power again, Roger.
00:47:22.200And my question to you is, do you think that this is solely about Trump, or do you think that this is a precedent that they're trying to set, that anybody who dares question them for the rest of time will be put through the Trump ringer?
00:47:38.900I think the short answer is that they see Donald Trump as an existential threat to their hold on power.
00:47:44.900And indeed, as Mike Davis said earlier on my WABC radio show, which can be heard this Sunday between 4 and 6, Mike Davis with the Amendment 3 project, look, there is a civil rights violation here.
00:47:59.900Donald Trump's civil rights have been repeatedly violated.
00:48:04.020They were violated in the Russian collusion hoax.
00:48:07.020They were violated here in this racketeering conspiracy to interfere in the election.
00:48:14.900I think these people fear prosecution themselves.
00:48:18.980And that's why, sadly, they will do anything necessary to stop Donald Trump from returning to the White House.
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00:52:12.560Roger, one of the great honors of being on the show and getting to ask you questions every day is that you've seen so much politically.
00:52:18.360And you've been through a lot politically.
00:52:20.340And it brings me back to something that's referenced in one of the great films of our time, I think, Get Me Roger Stone.
00:52:26.260And in that film, they actually show a clip of you talking about being involved in Watergate.
00:52:33.840And they actually have a board, which I took screenshots of that we can put up now, where you were actually named during the Watergate trials.
00:52:42.240And they put your name up on the board.
00:52:43.780You talked about it in Get Me Roger Stone.
00:52:45.700And I wanted to ask you about the comparison because you've seen both of this.
00:52:50.420You've seen both ends of the spectrum here, Roger.
00:52:52.240You saw Nixon taken down over Watergate.
00:53:56.720I worked for a man named Bart Porter, who in turn worked for Jeb Stuart Magruder.
00:54:02.200What that chart represents is the fact that I was instructed to pay an individual who was in the field and reporting to us on the status of the Democratic Party primaries.
00:54:33.060It's rat blank that came out of fraternity politics at the University of Southern California that was popularized not by Roger Stone,
00:54:44.100but by Donald Segretti, H.R. Haldeman, and others who were, you know, USC students.
00:54:52.660Now, you compare that to Obamagate, if you want to call it that, or the Russian collusion hoax, which, as you know, is a much bigger scandal.
00:55:05.400In Watergate, a group of private citizens, while extraordinarily misguided, sought to break into the Watergate, where their listening devices never actually worked.
00:55:19.060Today, there's a lot of evidence in declassified documents that the CIA was well aware of the break-in plan prior to its execution, that they infiltrated the burglar team.
00:55:33.400At least four of the Watergate burglars were still on the payroll of the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:55:40.780And they infiltrated the break-in, which was purposely botched in an effort to take Nixon down.
00:55:50.320A lot of evidence that that is the case.
00:55:54.020But there's no abuse of power there, as there is in the case of Russiagate, as it will, or the Russian collusion hoax.
00:56:04.040That is, the use of the full authority of the United States government and the extraordinary capabilities of our intelligence agencies, utilizing, essentially, the Steele dossier,
00:56:19.960and also what they knew to be the false claim that the Democratic National Committee had been hacked by Russian intelligence, for which there is still, to this day, not an iota of proof, just a claim by John Brennan,
00:56:35.280who I think is questionable as a source, in order to launch an illegitimate and therefore illegal efforts to remove a duly elected president.
00:56:46.640That is the greatest dirty trick in American political history.
00:56:52.940And what's ironic is that Jake Sullivan, who Special Counsel John Durham's special report, final report, told us, was knee-deep in these efforts.
00:57:07.520The man who knew, for example, that there was no Russian Alpha Bank computer terminal in Trump Tower, inside the Trump Organization, but went forward and claimed there was anyway.
00:57:22.060Hillary Clinton knew that that was a lie.
00:57:24.260She also went forward claiming otherwise.
00:57:27.440Then you have Anthony Blinken, who, by the way, is as bad at playing the guitar and singing as he is at diplomacy and statecraft, being the guy who lined up the 51 current and former intelligence assets,
00:57:46.560all of whom co-signed a letter that they knew to be a lie that said that Hunter Biden's laptop contents had, quote, all the hallmarks of Russian intelligence, a lie that they were able to continue to perpetrate right up until Election Day.
00:58:06.440Now, polls show us that as many as 17 percent of those who voted for Biden now say, had they been aware of the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, they would not have voted for Biden.
00:58:20.340So a clear act of election interference.
00:58:24.300Yet I was prosecuted, even though I did nothing wrong.
00:58:29.240No Russian collusion, no WikiLeaks collaboration, no other crime.
00:58:34.120Paul Manafort was prosecuted for financial crimes that had been examined by the Justice Department 15 years earlier and rejected for lack of evidence.
00:58:46.860Those were were were were recycled in an effort to put pressure on him.
00:58:52.600They incarcerated him before he was even convicted of any crime.
00:58:57.800He spent 16 months in jail before he even got to trial.
00:59:02.740Now, it didn't sound very American to me.
00:59:05.980General Flynn, for those who have not seen the new bio picture, Flynn, the film, I strongly, strongly urge you to do so.
00:59:16.700So once again, between Watergate and Obamagate, that's the difference between an ocean liner and a robo.
00:59:25.940It is without any question, Watergate is a far less serious crime, yet it was used successfully to remove a president.
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