The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Will The Deep State Really Try To Put Donald Trump In Jail？ Roger Stone Says Yes – The StoneZONE!

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:11.180 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:14.920 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:21.100 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:26.380 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:32.040 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:37.360 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:45.160 Welcome back, folks. I'm Roger Stone. And yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:50.480 A tumultuous weekend where I was inundated with patriots contacting me to say, well, what comes next?

00:01:00.760 Now, I'm not an attorney, but I've consulted a number of attorneys who I do respect.

00:01:07.380 That's a small group, by the way.

00:01:08.860 And they tell me that the president can ask for an expedited appeal of this unjust sentence or this unjust verdict in New York.

00:01:21.460 And if the New York state court system denies his request for an expedited appeal,

00:01:29.640 that that would give him leave to go directly to the U.S. Supreme Court on the basis of a due process violation.

00:01:38.020 We're going to be monitoring this very, very closely.

00:01:42.520 I know a lot of people out there actually think, no, they wouldn't really incarcerate a former president of the United States.

00:01:51.620 They wouldn't really jail the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party for president.

00:01:58.020 And folks, you're wrong.

00:01:59.900 There is no limit to the evil of these people.

00:02:03.820 There is no limit to what they will do to try to hijack the next election.

00:02:10.000 They see what's happening in the country.

00:02:13.900 We're going to talk politics and more coming up on the show.

00:02:19.040 My good friend Typhoon Lou Marin of the Florida Republican Assembly joins us.

00:02:26.080 And then later, a special report on the inauguration of President Bukele in El Salvador.

00:02:34.340 I was invited to attend.

00:02:36.220 Unfortunately, I was unable to do so.

00:02:38.860 But many America First leaders were there.

00:02:41.800 We're going to talk about that a little later in the show.

00:02:44.420 Right now, I bring on my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.news, who is always in the saddle here as my co-host.

00:02:56.620 Troy, welcome back to the Stone Zone.

00:02:59.780 Roger, honored to be here as always.

00:03:01.820 And I hope it was a good and relaxing weekend for you.

00:03:04.360 I can't describe it that way, but it was a good weekend in any event.

00:03:11.540 Before we go to our guest, Lou Marin, great American patriot, what is the latest report on how much the Trump campaign has raised since the announcement of this unjust verdict?

00:03:25.860 Well, Roger, we had several appearances yesterday from both RNC co-chair Lara Trump and Eric Trump across several different media outlets.

00:03:36.340 And they are reporting that there has been over $200 million raised total since Trump was found guilty just last week.

00:03:44.380 And $70 million of that, Roger, is through small donor donations.

00:03:48.720 So people donating $20, $40.

00:03:51.280 This has been, as we predicted on the Stone Zone on Friday, several hundred million dollars in fundraising because of this guilty verdict.

00:03:59.660 Wanted to get your thoughts because, I mean, as far as campaign fundraising in a short amount of time, I'm not sure that we've ever seen anything quite like this.

00:04:08.680 No, it is an absolute phenomena.

00:04:11.780 First of all, it's important to recognize that Donald Trump has never been the toast of Wall Street,

00:04:17.280 has never been able to raise a lot of money from billionaires and millionaires, some when he was an incumbent.

00:04:25.520 But even then, the establishment figures are not Trump donors.

00:04:29.840 Donald Trump's political movement is fueled with hundreds of thousands of small donations, small and medium-sized donations, from average Americans.

00:04:41.560 So we have never seen anything like this.

00:04:44.520 As you know, Troy, there were stories in the media about how Trump was running behind in fundraising and how Biden and the Democrats were easily outpacing him, which, by the way, for an incumbent is pretty common.

00:04:59.160 But now the money gap is closing.

00:05:03.560 This is phenomenal.

00:05:05.160 I also think it is a fair reading of public opinion.

00:05:09.780 It is a fair reading.

00:05:11.160 Normally speaking, when a candidate for federal office is charged or convicted of a crime, well, their fundraising dries up.

00:05:19.800 Their voting support dries up.

00:05:22.040 In this case, all that's happened is that Donald Trump's campaign and his fundraising has been turbocharged.

00:05:29.780 All right.

00:05:30.340 I don't want to leave Typhoon Lou standing in the green room any longer.

00:05:35.360 This guy is a hardcore patriot.

00:05:38.760 He is a grassroots political organizing expert, activist, a community organizer, travels all over the country teaching we, the people, what we need to do to take our country back.

00:05:53.300 He is a highly decorated former United States Navy chief and a veteran of the Gulf War.

00:06:00.460 He is also, by the way, a world-class magician, but we'll get into that another time.

00:06:07.980 He serves today with the Florida Republican Assembly as executive vice president, and he is the National Federation of Republican Assembly's training officer.

00:06:22.000 He's a Christian, he's a conservative, he's a constitutionalist, he's an American patriot, and he's a very good friend of mine.

00:06:30.580 I want to welcome Typhoon Lou to the Stone Zone.

00:06:34.680 Thank you, Roger.

00:06:35.700 Thank you, Troy.

00:06:36.380 It's an honor to be here and to be back in the Stone Zone, and thank you for that wonderful introduction.

00:06:42.180 Lou, most people don't realize it, but the Republican Assemblies have a long tradition in American politics.

00:06:49.240 The California Republican Assembly was seminal in the election of Ronald Reagan as governor, and, of course, had he never been governor, he would never have been president.

00:07:00.000 So you have a long and storied tradition.

00:07:03.560 The Republican Assemblies are not some voluntary organization that just popped up yesterday.

00:07:08.940 You've been with us for decades and been really the fundamental base of the conservative movement within the Republican Party.

00:07:19.500 No, we're not establishment Republicans.

00:07:23.020 We're certainly not rhinos.

00:07:25.620 But every event I've ever spoken for, for the Florida Republican Assembly, the grassroots energy, the commitment, the dedication, well, in all honesty, it outstrips the regular Republican organization everywhere I go.

00:07:43.480 So tell us a little bit about the California, pardon me, about the Republican Assembly, specifically the Florida Republican Assemblies, and the extraordinary efforts that you guys are making to clean the voter lists in the interest of having a free, fair, honest, and transparent election.

00:08:02.600 Absolutely.

00:08:03.600 Absolutely.

00:08:04.600 A lot of folks don't realize here the assembly started back in the 1930s.

00:08:08.600 Back in 30, 32, 33 was an idea, and they made it come to fruition here in the 1934, 35, they actually incorporated themselves, and they were so successful in California that in 1996, they went national for the National Federated Republican Assemblies.

00:08:26.720 And so 1996, they've been expanding, we're currently in 31 states and Puerto Rico, and in 1998, we were established here in Florida, actually in Palm Beach County, of all places, which I just learned here myself here, but we've been here actually in Florida for 26 years.

00:08:45.460 President Ronald Reagan always called us the conscience of the Republican Party, and I'm proud to say that, too, because at the end of the day, we're more about truth and do what is right and putting God back in our country, back at one county, one state at a time, all the way to Washington, D.C.

00:09:02.020 Now, Lou, very recently, I believe I read about a controversy in which the Republican State Party chairman here in Florida, the chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, that's the formal name, contacted you in an effort to tell you you couldn't use the word Republican in the title of your organization, and that you couldn't use an elephant in your logo.

00:09:31.020 First of all, why do Republicans always form the firing squad in a circle?

00:09:37.980 Why isn't Chairman Powers out fighting Democrats instead of fighting his fellow Republicans?

00:09:44.620 But tell us about this controversy.

00:09:47.680 Well, you know, we received a letter, a cease and desist letter, saying that we're no longer allowed to use the word Republican, also an elephant.

00:09:56.260 And I about fell to my chair, and I thought, this has got to be a joke, an early April fool's joke or something.

00:10:01.840 And so we actually reached out to the legal counsel of the RPOF and got him on the phone with a conference call and asked a question.

00:10:10.920 We had him.

00:10:11.660 He was on the phone representing the RPOF, and we had four of our lawyers on the phone.

00:10:16.220 And I just asked him.

00:10:17.500 I says, I got a question for you.

00:10:19.200 What's your goal, your objective here?

00:10:21.980 What's your end game?

00:10:22.780 Because I thought we were on the same side.

00:10:25.200 And he said, well, I'll represent the RPOF, and I have to serve this on you, and yada, yada, yada.

00:10:31.340 I said, well, last time I checked, which is yesterday, I said, there was no trademark on an elephant or a Republican.

00:10:40.260 I should say on their elephant, they have no trademark.

00:10:43.400 But so I asked the question, you cannot trademark the word Republican.

00:10:48.600 That's like air or water.

00:10:50.200 You can't trademark that either.

00:10:51.480 So I said, where do you get off saying we can't do this?

00:10:55.320 And he cited some kind of law they wrote back in 2021 or 2011, I should say.

00:11:00.960 I said, well, that's like 12 years after our existence here.

00:11:03.660 So as far as we're concerned, we're grandfathered in.

00:11:07.380 But for some reason, when you read the law they cite, we were kind of surprised because if you – I think somebody took that to court, they'd probably win that also.

00:11:16.080 Because it really does violate our First Amendment as an organization.

00:11:25.000 Excellent point.

00:11:26.220 Hopefully the folks at the Republican Party of Florida will drop this matter and move on to the much more serious matter of cleaning Florida's voter lists. 0.99

00:11:36.700 Now, Lou, I know you were engaged with Chris Jersky.

00:11:40.760 We have an extremely high regard for him here at the Stone Zone.

00:11:44.380 He's been a guest on the show several times.

00:11:47.580 He has put together some excellent software programs for detecting bad addresses on the voter list.

00:11:55.820 Really an innovative guy, great guy, a true patriot.

00:12:00.280 And I know this has been a major focus of yours in Florida to ensure we have a free election.

00:12:07.100 Tell us a little bit about that.

00:12:08.400 Well, the – a lot of folks don't realize, Chris Jersky is an amazing person.

00:12:14.580 He's a quiet guy.

00:12:15.700 He's a – he built a platform that literally goes in and deflates inflated voter rolls.

00:12:23.100 That's probably the easiest way to say it.

00:12:24.480 He takes in there and identifies all the bad addresses as well as all the people that moved that should not be on the voter roll.

00:12:30.640 And we've been very fortunate here.

00:12:33.080 He's actually directly responsible for cleaning our voter rolls here in Florida.

00:12:36.920 When you look at the – when we first started to where we're at today, he cleaned quite a few millions of them off the voter roll.

00:12:43.720 And we did it one county at a time.

00:12:45.480 And I'll say a big good shout-out to the Supervisor of Elections.

00:12:48.500 I'd say 62 of the 67 counties have been really a pleasure to work with.

00:12:56.560 They really – we gave them the information, said, you know, you might want to look at this here.

00:13:00.560 We don't try to attack anybody.

00:13:02.420 We said we're here as a patriots and activists.

00:13:05.540 We want you to check into these bad addresses to see if you can clean them up.

00:13:10.000 And they've cleaned them up.

00:13:11.360 There's only been five states – or excuse me, five counties have been kind of slow movers.

00:13:15.080 But it's been exciting to work here, just in the – Florida here.

00:13:20.000 By the way, he runs all 15 million of our voter records in two hours through his system.

00:13:25.240 It's unbelievable what he can do.

00:13:26.800 We also did here a couple weeks ago Texas.

00:13:29.400 He's working in Texas right now.

00:13:31.340 He ran all 20 million of the Texas voter rolls through his system in three hours.

00:13:37.060 It's incredible.

00:13:37.920 He's finding millions and millions of bad addresses and folks that shouldn't be on that voter roll.

00:13:43.660 So – but he ran – went to North Carolina.

00:13:47.420 He did that whole state in 45 minutes.

00:13:50.240 He just did Georgia.

00:13:51.200 Georgia took a little bit longer because their system's – let's say it's not a very complex system that really should not be using because it's too vulnerable.

00:14:01.020 Well, I guess, Lou, the real question is – and by the way, Chris Jersky is with the People's Audit.

00:14:10.140 You want to check that out and support them.

00:14:12.560 They do amazing work.

00:14:14.380 I think the guy's a genius if you want to know the truth.

00:14:16.640 But the real question is, you go through this extraordinary effort – let's take Florida, for example – and you go through all 15 million voter records.

00:14:28.920 You find 1 million certifiable bad addresses, undeliverable addresses.

00:14:34.280 Now, as you point out, you go to the 67 counties in the state, and 62 of them operate as they should and remove these nonexistent people from – addresses that are undeliverable from the rolls.

00:14:49.860 But what happens in those five counties – by the way, big, big counties run by Democrats – where they refuse to remove these folks?

00:14:59.800 What happens then?

00:15:00.800 Well, normally what we do is we reach out to them and let them know that, hey, this needs to be addressed, and our activists in that county will identify it.

00:15:10.580 If they don't do that, then we'll actually go to Mr. Cord Bird and say, hey, you need to look at this stuff here, as well as the governor, because it's important they understand that dirty rolls put out dirty elections, and we need to make sure we're transparent.

00:15:24.040 Again, we're really not about the left or the right on this issue.

00:15:26.660 It's all about doing what's right and being transparent so everybody gets a fair shot out of the gate in an election.

00:15:32.440 Troy, do you have a question for Typhoon Lou?

00:15:40.220 Absolutely, Lou.

00:15:40.960 It's great to speak with you here, and I just wanted to ask you about what's coming up in the 2024 election, because we do have some ballot initiatives in the state of Florida, which I think we've discussed here.

00:15:51.180 And I think most people would say that these are things pertaining to abortion and marijuana that are going to be drivers of Democrats coming out to the polls in 2024.

00:16:00.400 What's your outlook in this upcoming election, and how can we be certain that it's going to be a legitimate contest and that we're going to have legitimate vote totals?

00:16:10.860 I mean, it sounds like, from what you're telling to me, that some of the largest counties in Florida, we don't really have any assurances that they're going to be accurate totals.

00:16:18.300 Well, I think the big thing that's really good is that we're able to go through the voter rolls and identify the bad addresses.

00:16:26.900 Well, our approach here is to be proactive, not reactive.

00:16:31.800 And because we have the actual data showing that these are bad addresses, and these bad addresses represent an extra ballot.

00:16:38.860 Another footnote, too, I should say also that when you identify these bad addresses, do you realize how many millions of dollars in postage we waste?

00:16:46.640 People don't understand.

00:16:48.180 It's really a good thing, because we can pretty much watch everything that's going on in Florida.

00:16:53.980 Dursky actually found something last election back in Palm Beach County.

00:16:58.500 We found over 50,000 voters were deleted off the last election, and they put them back on.

00:17:06.400 And so we called them out on that, and the Epoch Times carried a nice article on that, identifying that, too.

00:17:11.300 And, of course, the SOE said it was an administrative error of some kind.

00:17:16.580 I said that's a pretty big error to be making, so I'm very suspicious, as well as suspect.

00:17:21.520 But I would say probably, you know, regarding this, the pro-life issue and the marijuana issue here, we have to step up.

00:17:30.160 And to me, you know, we're the voice of the unborn.

00:17:32.960 We're the folks who believe in a right to life.

00:17:36.540 We want to make sure that we stay focused on saving these babies.

00:17:40.280 To me, it's going to really come down to education.

00:17:44.360 We have to educate the mothers, make sure they get the right resources so that they make the right decision. 0.52

00:17:51.240 As far as the marijuana, we already have medical marijuana here, okay?

00:17:55.480 And I think we have enough drugs with the fentanyl and all these guys coming across the country.

00:17:59.440 We don't need anybody—I think that just added more problems to our crime and everything.

00:18:05.940 So I think we're a no on that also, too.

00:18:11.240 Lou, Governor Ron DeSantis has said that Florida is the gold standard of clean elections.

00:18:20.660 I question that just based on a huge amount of evidence that I've seen from Chris Chiersky and others.

00:18:28.160 How confident can we be about the election system in Florida in the 2024 presidential election?

00:18:38.120 Or is it too early to say?

00:18:40.460 Well, I'll say this.

00:18:41.300 Right now, there is no security on the elections, okay?

00:18:45.360 People don't realize they have not updated the standards here.

00:18:48.380 They call it gold standard because back in the day, 20 years ago, it was the gold standard.

00:18:52.080 But, you know, the gold standard kind of gets older and older, and we've become basically a rusty standard now.

00:18:59.080 These folks don't realize that these machines are not being kept up security-wise.

00:19:03.660 And, again, that goes back to Cord Bird and Maria Matthews.

00:19:08.060 They don't—there's no security on these things.

00:19:11.080 It's kind of like going to a vote.

00:19:13.440 It's like going to a booth in the middle of the street when you're Stark Raven naked taking a shower.

00:19:20.260 Everybody can see what you're doing online.

00:19:21.900 It's not that hard.

00:19:22.860 It's easy to hack into these systems.

00:19:24.560 It's been proven over and over.

00:19:26.660 And to me, that's a very big concern that we have to keep our eyes and ears open.

00:19:31.140 These machines—listen, as far as I'm concerned, as far as FRA is concerned, NFRA, we want to go back to paper ballots, okay?

00:19:38.440 Back to the good old days, okay?

00:19:40.180 I see really no benefit here of, for example, taking a million-dollar machine and put it in one precinct that only has 2,000, 3,000 people that you and I can count it up manually in about an hour.

00:19:52.500 To me, it's just a waste of time, waste of money.

00:19:55.460 But to me, if you want to restore the voter confidence in this voting system, in our voting—how we vote, you need to really get back to basics.

00:20:05.020 Paper ballots, watermarked, invisible ink on them with a serialization, as far as I'm concerned.

00:20:10.900 One day, holiday, get in, get out, be done with it, and get back to business in your daily lives.

00:20:18.140 All right.

00:20:18.920 Unfortunately, we are out of time.

00:20:21.020 I want to thank my guest, Typhoon Lou Marin.

00:20:24.940 He is a brawler.

00:20:26.180 He is a patriot.

00:20:27.620 He provides extraordinary leadership, and I'm proud to call him a friend.

00:20:32.340 And, Lou, you have a standing invitation to come back here in the Stone Zone anytime you think it's important and you need to put out one of your legendary calls to action.

00:20:44.040 Lou Marin, thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.

00:20:47.700 Thank you very much.

00:20:48.620 God bless you, and keep up the good work, which you guys do.

00:20:51.120 Thank you, sir.

00:20:52.440 Thank you so much.

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00:23:47.000 All right, Troy, a lot happened politically in a short weekend.

00:23:52.640 What do you got on deck before our next guest?

00:23:56.780 Well, Roger, it was just a big weekend in terms of what was going on in the Trump trial.

00:24:01.660 And I think this was a kind of distraction.

00:24:05.900 And here's the thing, Roger.

00:24:07.440 It was pointed out by Kari Lake.

00:24:08.800 It was pointed out by Stephen Miller and others.

00:24:11.040 What we fail to see when we kind of are focused on the Trump trial are the extreme failures of the Biden administration.

00:24:18.420 I have a friend who's currently from Korea.

00:24:21.180 He's currently visiting Korea.

00:24:22.740 And he sent me images of balloons that were flying over the DMZ.

00:24:29.000 The North Koreans sent these balloons with species and trash and other things into South Korea, Roger. 0.72

00:24:35.640 We actually have a clip of the Pentagon spokeswoman being asked about this and kind of dismissing it.

00:24:41.020 But all eyes on Trump while Biden's foreign policy failures continue to shake up the world stage

00:24:46.900 and hand more power to communist countries like the Chinese, like the North Koreans.

00:24:51.520 Let's roll that clip. 0.89

00:24:52.740 Jeff Shogol, Task and Purpose.

00:24:55.060 Thanks.

00:24:55.540 I have kind of an unconventional question.

00:24:58.180 As my colleague mentioned, North Korea sent balloons across the South into the South that included human waste.

00:25:04.980 Does the U.S. have any plans to reciprocate and send American poop across the 38th parallel? 0.66

00:25:11.640 Thanks, Jeff.

00:25:13.680 We do not.

00:25:15.120 Next question.

00:25:16.060 Carla Babb.

00:25:17.440 Well, they think it's a joke, Roger.

00:25:20.780 Unbelievable.

00:25:21.220 Well, there's our levity today.

00:25:23.780 Is that a man or a woman?

00:25:25.240 I'm really unclear.

00:25:27.660 Well, they say it's a woman, Roger, but I don't know, because that's the most manly looking woman I've ever seen. 0.75

00:25:33.780 We live in strange times.

00:25:37.160 All right.

00:25:38.020 I just got word that our guest has joined us.

00:25:41.960 Herbert Escheman is a great friend of the show.

00:25:45.600 He is a political activist in El Salvador, often visits South Florida, where we're always glad to see him.

00:25:55.020 He is one of the earliest proponents of the president of El Salvador, President Bukele, who took a country that was one of the most dangerous spots on the face of the earth, whose economy was in the toilet, and has rebuilt it into one of the safest places in the world where the economy is thriving.

00:26:20.020 So, for those who say it cannot be done, well, President Bukele has done it and is doing it.

00:26:27.900 Joining us now, our good friend, Herbert Escheman.

00:26:32.100 Hello, Roger.

00:26:33.360 Good to be on the show again.

00:26:35.360 Great to see you, my friend.

00:26:36.640 And I can't even begin to tell you how much I missed being with you for this joyous inauguration weekend.

00:26:46.140 As you and I both know, the U.S. State Department monkeyed around with my passport, making my attendance impossible.

00:26:53.600 But I was with you in spirit.

00:26:56.540 Let's kind of start from the beginning, because not everybody is familiar with the El Salvadorian success story.

00:27:05.100 The difference between your country not so long ago and your country today under the leadership of President Bukele. 0.91

00:27:15.140 Tell us a little bit about that.

00:27:17.480 Absolutely, Roger.

00:27:18.900 You know, it all boils down to being able to fight off globalism successfully.

00:27:23.800 And the way of doing that is by putting your people first, by putting your nation first and their interests.

00:27:29.880 You allow for the growth of your country.

00:27:32.500 And by doing so, you make a lot of enemies along the way.

00:27:36.800 But these enemies will be defeated one by one, because we have God on our side.

00:27:43.300 And we are working closely with the Salvadorian people to ensure that their interests are what's first in line and not the interests of foreign entities that want to promote globalist agendas in every country in the world.

00:28:00.520 It is amazing to hear the globalists whine constantly about Bukele.

00:28:09.220 Bukele has brought order to his country. 1.00

00:28:13.140 He's done so democratically.

00:28:15.100 He was overwhelmingly reelected.

00:28:18.160 Yet they continue to try to depict him as some kind of dictator, some kind of fascist.

00:28:23.960 They really hate success.

00:28:26.400 Those on the left, they hate success.

00:28:29.800 Gangs, criminal gangs ran this country until he was elected.

00:28:36.160 And only through tough-minded leadership has he restored his country to not only law and order, but also to economic prosperity.

00:28:46.440 Herbert, how is the country doing economically under President Bukele? 0.97

00:28:50.040 The country is thriving in every aspect.

00:28:54.260 First, security.

00:28:56.060 Now that the gang problem is almost 100 percent resolved and the people can live free and good lives, the next goal of the Bukele administration is to focus on the economy and bringing in positive foreign investment that's going to create new jobs and bring our country back to what it should be.

00:29:16.580 President Nayib Bukele is creating the El Salvador that El Salvadorans deserve because for a very long time they didn't have any opportunity to have good jobs, good education, a normal and free life.

00:29:30.100 Now, thanks to President Bukele, those basic human rights have been restored.

00:29:34.640 However, at the beginning, we had a lot of international accusations claiming to be concerned about human rights, but they were not concerned about the human rights of the hardworking, honest Salvadoran citizens.

00:29:47.220 They were concerned about the human rights of the criminal, murderous gang members that were being jailed.

00:29:53.900 Right now, thank God, most of MS-13 and Barrio 18, which were the two dominating gangs in El Salvador, have been locked up and they're not going to see the light of day anytime soon.

00:30:07.300 So I think we've got some video from this weekend's festivities.

00:30:12.620 Really breaks my heart that it could not be there.

00:30:15.260 Let's roll some of that.

00:30:16.720 To say, I can't say that, I'm talking with many of the foreign delegates and many diplomats, I've had the pleasure of telling myself that they come with interest to learn from our country.

00:30:29.360 And a very important factor is that the effective policy of security policies of President Nayib Bukele made something that very few governments and very few countries managed to obtain,

00:30:41.780 que es la unión social porque como te mencionaba anteriormente esto ya no se trata de ideologías que

00:30:47.600 derecha izquierda centro esto ahora es un común acuerdo del pueblo todos agarrados de la mano

00:30:53.900 como compatriotas salvadoreños para sacar a la nación adelante y eso es lo que hemos visto porque

00:30:58.940 como te mencionaba la seguridad era un interés común que teníamos todos como salvadoreños eso

00:31:05.060 esos temas ayudaron a traer una unión social en el salvador que no se ve en otros países muchos

00:31:11.120 países incluso los del primer mundo se encuentran políticamente divididos eso ya no ocurre en el

00:31:16.000 salvador claro y el tema de seguridad sin duda ha sido importante para para la tranquilidad de los

00:31:22.000 salvadoreños totalmente ha sido un factor de los más el más importante y aparte de eso ha sido el

00:31:28.240 que nos ha ayudado estar en los ojos del mundo en los ojos del resto del mundo que ahora nos miran

00:31:33.620 como un ejemplo quieren venir a aprender de nosotros estadounidenses europeos de donde sea

00:31:39.380 y lo y lo lo dicen con mucha humildad queremos aprender qué es lo que ustedes hicieron bien aquí

00:31:44.660 para replicarlo en nuestras naciones claro el régimen

00:31:47.540 excellent uh example of the fact that uh herbert is an extraordinary advocate uh against the

00:31:58.340 globalists uh and uh for the policies of the president troy do you have a question for my good

00:32:04.420 friend herbert absolutely since 2010 uh the number of uh people coming to the united states from el

00:32:11.220 salvador has increased tremendously um and and we've seen that go down recently but i wanted to

00:32:16.340 ask you uh do you think that there's a effort you know by some in your country to ascend certain

00:32:21.700 individuals to the united states um is there a is there an effort uh on on maybe some of the opposition

00:32:27.940 uh to to send migrants to the united states in hopes that they'll kind of be somebody else's problem 1.00

00:32:32.980 that is the way that the opposition parties the old school establishment used to function in el

00:32:40.660 salvador back in the day el salvador had many societal economic educational problems and the

00:32:47.380 way and the way they resolved it was by just letting people flee they didn't care about resolving the

00:32:53.380 crime issues and that is why they lost their popularity the opposition in el salvador has become

00:32:59.220 completely irrelevant both the left and right-wing parties because they never catered to the interests

00:33:05.860 of the salvadoran people their solution was we'll get rich we'll make our pockets fat and you can leave

00:33:11.460 the country and go find asylum elsewhere now that president bukele is in power i'll tell you that the rate

00:33:18.660 of immigration of illegal immigration towards the united states has dropped and president bukele has

00:33:24.580 expressed in many speeches that he doesn't want our people to leave not to any nation we want to keep

00:33:30.420 our people here in our country and give them the opportunity not just to stay here but also for the

00:33:35.380 ones who left to come back and thrive in their own nation in their own homeland which never offered

00:33:41.380 them opportunities but thank god by his will we're working to change that well let me ask you this there

00:33:47.700 are a lot of prominent america first uh americans who attended the inauguration i was green with

00:33:56.180 jealousy but i saw my good friend kimberly guilfoyle was there donald trump jr was there uh congressman

00:34:04.580 matt gates was there i think this is a tremendous tribute to the president absolutely the fact that

00:34:13.380 donald trump jr took the time to come to el salvador and show his utmost support proves that

00:34:19.140 the fight against globalism as the name states that is not exclusive to the united states of america

00:34:24.420 it's an international fight and we all must be united to succeed against the globalist elite

00:34:30.420 otherwise we will fail united we stand divided we fall roger this i think just kind of proves

00:34:37.220 uh the whole point which is that strong leadership uh can solve problems all one has to have is courage

00:34:45.380 how old is uh president bukele i believe he is in his early 40s about 41 42 he's a young bright mind

00:34:54.420 that's setting the country propelling the country forward back in the day we had the establishment

00:34:59.940 politicians that all they cared about was looking nice in a tv interview and as i said previously

00:35:06.420 fattening their pockets but they never cared about the people now we have a president who's willing

00:35:10.980 to sacrifice his own personal life for the well-being of his nation just as we have seen in the united

00:35:16.980 states how president trump is putting everything on the line for the well-being of the country and saving

00:35:22.740 it all right uh troy i'll give you one last shot at our guest herbert esherman who is joining us today

00:35:30.900 from el salvador and then we're going to move on to domestic politics because well that's why people

00:35:36.660 tune in to the stone zone troy go ahead well sir it's an honor to have you on the show today and i

00:35:42.260 wanted to ask you about uh 2024 because obviously we have a big election coming up in the united states

00:35:47.620 what would it mean to the people of el salvador to see donald trump elected to the presidency once

00:35:52.180 again are they cheering him on from el salvador uh what's the kind of opinion on the ground there

00:35:57.860 absolutely i'll give you my opinion as a dual citizen and as a salvadoran um the honest truth

00:36:05.460 is that the people in el salvador are conservative by nature we stand for traditional values we're a

00:36:11.460 mostly catholic and evangelical country we stand with godly values and we want presidents who

00:36:19.780 represent that who will promote that in our society while fighting off the degeneracy of globalism

00:36:26.820 so we would be more than happy to see a victory for president donald trump in the upcoming u.s

00:36:33.140 election i'm an american citizen uh he's the first u.s president that i ever voted for and i will be

00:36:38.980 voting for him again all right uh i'm afraid we are out of time let me thank our good friend herbert

00:36:45.540 esherman uh to for joining us thank you for having me on the show roger thank you and again thanks for

00:36:51.700 your invitation i hope to visit el salvador in the we hope to have you here in the country soon roger

00:36:57.620 stone we really missed having you here but next time you will be here of that i'm sure i appreciate

00:37:04.020 that uh all right uh troy uh thanks for uh uh for uh helping us there with that great international

00:37:11.540 interview let's go back to the real reason people tune into the stone zone is american politics what else

00:37:18.660 do we have on deck mentioned uh by hunter biden and kevin morris um who attempted to claim that

00:37:26.500 your tax situation um which i want to let you kind of dive into here for a second uh was apples and

00:37:32.820 oranges the judge said it was apples and oranges compared to hunter biden's own tax situation in

00:37:37.780 which he failed to pay millions of dollars uh in taxes and also uh was living an extremely lavish

00:37:43.860 lifestyle while doing so uh we have footage this morning of of hunter biden arriving at a delaware

00:37:49.940 federal court uh where he is under trial uh for the firearm charges the gun charges uh have a clip to

00:37:56.900 roll on that then want to get your comment on the tax situation as well as this gun trial what do you

00:38:00.580 think is going to happen here let's roll that clip now that's him rich that's him okay so there he is

00:38:17.460 troy i appreciate you raising these questions yes it's true my wife and i have back taxes from the

00:38:25.460 year 2006 every year since then of course we are entirely current uh we actually made almost seven

00:38:34.100 years of uninterrupted payments on a monthly basis to pay that amount down now unfortunately the irs says

00:38:43.220 based on adding penalties and interest we owe them two million dollars but only a quarter of that is

00:38:50.980 past due taxes the rest of it is penalties and interest big difference between me and hunter biden my

00:38:58.260 wife and i declared every single penny we hid nothing we also declared every single asset claims to the

00:39:07.620 contrary are false uh and uh we also paid in good faith until well the muller investigation essentially

00:39:16.900 bankrupted us uh now we are responsible for our taxes we will be required to pay all of that normally

00:39:25.540 of course in the offer and compromise program the government grants you some relief in terms of

00:39:32.660 interest and penalties and if i were the average citizen perhaps they would do that but they haven't

00:39:39.220 but claiming that we evaded two million dollars in taxes is defamatory and false claiming that we

00:39:46.660 ever failed not to report any income whatsoever is false claiming that we hid assets is false hunter

00:39:55.620 biden did all of those things but in his case the u.s attorney in delaware allowed the clock to run and

00:40:05.540 those taxes expired see that's the entire reason why the biden justice department brought a civil action

00:40:13.460 against my wife and i even though we had been paying right up until the muller indictment on a regular

00:40:20.340 basis because they knew those taxes were about to expire uh and therefore they had to bring this action

00:40:28.100 they did it by the way on a friday at five o'clock they were in uh good faith negotiations with my tax

00:40:36.340 attorneys they didn't bother to inform them that they were going to file this lawsuit which has

00:40:42.580 now been settled but to say that we evaded taxes uh and were treated differently than hunter biden is

00:40:50.420 an egregious lie whether or not uh there's going to be a fair trial on these issues well it's interesting

00:41:00.100 to me that joe biden recently out of the blue dropped in to see haley biden his uh i guess his uh

00:41:08.740 daughter-in-law from his other son uh beau's marriage she's a key witness uh in this trial but joe

00:41:17.060 just popped in to see her uh if trump did that they would immediately call it a witness tampering it's

00:41:23.540 not the first example of joe uh trying to project himself on this case what will happen in delaware

00:41:32.100 we'll be following it very closely but we were shocked to learn only days ago that the investigators

00:41:39.380 at the irs looking into this matter were barred from interviewing kevin morris who is the hollywood

00:41:46.980 based screenwriter pothead uh sugar daddy to joe biden's son hunter he's the guy who wrote a two

00:41:56.580 million dollar check to pay uh hunter biden's tax debt uh a greatly reduced debt since they let a

00:42:04.420 number of the tax evasion charges against him expire uh it's unbelievable that they are using the

00:42:12.500 levers of government to avoid an honest and full investigation of hunter biden meanwhile hunter

00:42:20.340 himself makes it clear uh that he's among a protected class he shows up uh at the state dinner for the

00:42:28.420 president of kenya uh at the white house he pops in and out of the presidential motorcade he is seen in

00:42:36.500 rehoboth beach delaware uh with the president these are all signs uh that uh uh that there's probably

00:42:44.740 not going to be a fair trial here the prosecution hunter biden has been handled in a very very strange

00:42:51.940 way so if you're on uh x formerly known as twitter and you're tempted to go out there and say why isn't

00:42:59.780 hunter biden being treated like roger stone well you don't know what you're talking about because roger

00:43:05.780 stone and his wife did nothing wrong uh we got no break no special treatment uh in fact these taxes

00:43:13.060 would have expired had they not filed this uh nuisance suit against us uh and we will end up having to pay

00:43:21.860 every single penny thanks for bringing that up it's a perfect day to clarify that no exactly roger and

00:43:29.700 i think it's important to point out as well you know with as far as this trial um you know it's kind

00:43:34.900 interesting to me roger because this it appears to me the precedent has been set across federal

00:43:39.940 courts in this country i believe there was a case in missouri recently uh there was a case uh in

00:43:45.300 there's been several cases mainly in the middle of the country of individuals who have challenged the

00:43:50.180 idea that uh just because you're a drug user means that you're not allowed to have firearms and uh it's been

00:43:57.220 struck down by federal courts who say look uh there's no asterisk next to the asterisk next to the uh

00:44:02.980 second amendment which says that you can't have a second amendment if you use drugs and that's my

00:44:08.420 point with this hunter biden case roger i think the precedent has already been set in federal court

00:44:14.180 uh that that you cannot um the the question on the uh firearm application the that that every american

00:44:22.900 fills out by the atf when they get a gun the question um which i believe is stated are you a drug

00:44:29.940 user have you ever been a drug user they've actually amended that question now where it's different

00:44:34.900 from when hunter biden answered it but the question itself is illegal uh they're not allowed to take

00:44:40.420 action based on that because uh really there's no there's nothing constitutionally which says they

00:44:45.780 have the right to do so so i think the precedent has been set that that hunter biden will get off on

00:44:52.500 these charges um my only question is is it politically uh valuable for the democrats to use this trial as

00:45:01.620 an excuse to pull the uh say pull the hook on joe biden and pull him off of the stage because um as

00:45:08.820 you've predicted for a long time roger um if hunter biden is convicted on this he's facing serious jail

00:45:14.820 time and prison time i mean we're talking several years i believe the minimum is three to five years

00:45:20.500 um is there any scenario that you see in which hunter biden uh could possibly be charged here

00:45:27.620 and joe biden could pardon him and step away from the white house kind of clearing the decks

00:45:31.780 for maybe a michelle obama or somebody else well look i don't uh i do not think uh that joe biden is

00:45:39.460 going to resign the presidency i've never said that he would have never thought that he would he could

00:45:44.980 of course wait until after the election between the election uh and the inauguration to pardon

00:45:50.340 his son if he's convicted that that's actually what i predict that he would do and of course he would

00:45:57.860 talk about uh his son's addiction uh so i think that's a possibility joe biden uh and his justice

00:46:06.420 department have now pulled off their entire election plan which was to get president donald trump

00:46:12.660 convicted on some bogus frame job uh non-existent crime in any jurisdiction possible that's what

00:46:21.380 they did in new york they've failed to do it in florida in the so-called documents case they've

00:46:28.340 failed so far to do it uh on the january january 6 matters raised by special counsel jack smith now uh

00:46:37.940 lawyers that i do respect still tell me that they believe it is possible unlikely but possible that

00:46:44.740 the supreme court could rule on the question of presidential immunity in such a way uh that

00:46:51.140 president trump could be required to stand trial in dc uh and yes if they can they'll try them in september

00:46:59.780 or october uh even though that violates long-standing department of justice policy so i i think two things

00:47:09.460 are clear why were all of these actions brought in the fourth year of biden's presidency if donald trump

00:47:16.900 actually committed any of these crimes which he didn't why wasn't he charged in the first year of

00:47:23.140 biden's presidency the answer is because uh biden and the democratic strategists incorrectly believed

00:47:31.780 that trump could not be renominated that the trump threat was over that he was a spent volcano and that

00:47:39.380 surely someone like governor ron desantis or nikki haley or some other globalist who will play ball with

00:47:47.060 them would be the nominee of the republican party and therefore the trump phenomena had played out they

00:47:54.500 misunderstand how fundamentally donald trump has realigned uh american politics uh and how strong

00:48:03.780 the populist uh america first movement in the country is uh in other words trump easily dispatched all of his

00:48:13.460 intra-party uh rivals uh rivals to be nominated they definitely did not see that coming uh that's why they're now

00:48:22.820 hysterical uh uh literally uh out of their minds uh to try to figure out how to incarcerate him we talked

00:48:33.220 about this in the opening segment uh the judge now that he's been convicted uh has very very wide discretion in

00:48:41.540 terms of what happens next if president trump uh and his lawyers uh file for an expedited appeal uh in new

00:48:51.300 york state an appeal that would take place before the election uh it is uh questionable in my mind whether

00:49:00.260 he can win on appeal lawyers who are way smarter than me say well the transgressions of the judge uh and

00:49:07.860 other aspects of the trial are so egregious that he would surely win on appeal i'm not so sure i'm not

00:49:15.860 so sure that he can get a fair proceeding he should have won this case based on the merits based on the

00:49:21.940 case but of course he didn't so i'm not sure a that they will agree to expedite it if they refused i'm

00:49:30.900 told that would give trump uh a uh an avenue to go directly to the u.s supreme court on the basis of

00:49:39.300 a due process violation on the other hand if they do agree to expedite the appeal it's just a personal

00:49:47.460 opinion i'm not confident that he gets a fair hearing and trial there either so either way i think this

00:49:56.020 question will go to the supreme court one way or another but all this has to do with timing it's

00:50:05.060 all about timing they want donald trump above all off the campaign trail they they want him uh whether

00:50:14.020 it's uh whether it's in uh home detention in trump tower uh or whether it's rikers island uh they are

00:50:22.100 capable of that evil they know that donald trump out on the road speaking freely raising hundreds of

00:50:30.740 millions of dollars pulling record crowds to his to his rallies uh and counter-punching against these

00:50:39.780 attacks means they lose they also know uh and this isn't about revenge this is about the rule of law

00:50:49.140 uh they know that if he becomes president again then the treasonous activities of people like barack

00:50:55.220 obama and joe biden uh and uh james comey the former fbi director and john brennan the former cia

00:51:02.980 director and andrew mccabe and susan rice and hillary clinton and john podesta all of them documented in

00:51:11.380 uh john durham's uh the special counsel's report uh will be reexamining that there could be prosecutions

00:51:19.220 for treason so these people are looking at the real possibility of going to prison no it's not

00:51:25.780 revenge it's the rule of law that you liberals like to talk so much about it's about equal protection i

00:51:33.860 think i brought this up the other day but i find it amazing uh that when it was revealed that all of

00:51:40.740 richard nixon's white house conversations had been recorded uh he initially refused to release them

00:51:48.180 to the congress to the watergate special prosecutor to uh the public saying they were protected by

00:51:56.020 executive privilege he did however post a transcript of all of them uh the left and the democrats said that

00:52:04.580 was insufficient they sued uh the u.s supreme court reversed hundreds of years of precedent pertaining

00:52:13.460 to executive privilege uh and demanded that the tapes be made public they were and that caused the

00:52:20.900 downfall of richard nixon now special counsel robert herr had an interview with joe biden but the biden

00:52:29.620 justice department is refusing to release that audio recording and their response is well we we published

00:52:36.500 a transcript well that's what nixon said uh why do we have a two-tiered justice system what is it about

00:52:43.700 this audio that they don't want you to hear could it be that he's doddering could it be that he's confused

00:52:50.740 could it be that he's enraged we see that a lot there's something there they don't want you to hear

00:52:57.380 but what's good for richard nixon should be good for joe biden unclear to me why they should be treated

00:53:04.740 differently no roger and i i see this as a part of a larger uh thing that they're putting together

00:53:11.300 which you know we saw the lead up to january 6th we saw uh how they set that up and how it was used

00:53:16.660 afterwards to attack uh the political opposition of the establishment washington dc and we played a clip

00:53:23.140 about this a couple weeks ago roger with maxine waters with owen troyer here in the stone zone

00:53:28.660 where we she was talking about people in the hills and trump supporters in the hills just completely

00:53:33.780 made up crazy nonsense uh waters was at it again roger in a recent cnn interview where she referred

00:53:40.740 to trump supporters as domestic terrorists and she actually goes as far as to say that trump supporters

00:53:46.820 that's right 80 million plus people out there are planning a civil war if trump were to lose in 2024

00:53:53.540 want to play this and get your reaction because to me it looks like they're setting this up for some

00:53:57.860 kind of event uh that they orchestrate that they can then turn back and say see the trump supporters

00:54:03.060 are violent just like january 6 where it was a fed surrection set up by uh the intelligence agencies all

00:54:08.980 the way let's let's roll that clip i am going to spend some time with the criminal justice system

00:54:15.220 with the justice system asking them tell us what's going on with the domestic terrorists are they

00:54:20.980 preparing a civil war against us should we be concerned about our safety what is he doing with

00:54:27.940 this divisive language it is dangerous and we're going to have to make sure that we understand uh that

00:54:34.980 we're not at risk with this man talking in the way that he's doing uh wait a minute is that the same

00:54:41.220 maxine waters who i saw on video saying if you see trump supporters in a restaurant or a gas station

00:54:47.940 you get in their face you tell them they're not welcome in this country the person advocating violence

00:54:54.660 is maxine waters the person advocating uh turbulence is maxine waters uh and to denigrate 81 million people

00:55:04.100 as domestic terrorists just because they don't support your candidate for president is outrageous on the

00:55:10.980 other hand maxine waters who doesn't live in the district uh that she represents who lives in a 0.91

00:55:16.740 incredible mansion there uh is uh she's a blight upon the earth uh she is uh uh she's a dangerous 0.99

00:55:24.100 person she is the one who is fomenting uh violence we've seen that uh and as for us no no matter what

00:55:32.740 happens violence is not the answer insurrection is not the answer revolution is not the answer we need

00:55:40.820 to win at the polls in the next democratically scheduled election that is america's last and best

00:55:49.380 opportunity to change directions uh and uh my good friend alex jones raises this constantly as

00:55:56.340 have others such as tucker carlson some false flag operation that can be handily blamed on trump

00:56:03.540 supporters so let us be clear we're opposed to violence we're opposed to any kind of revolt

00:56:10.660 what we are in favor of is winning the next election and we're going to go all out to do

00:56:16.740 that you know i i love this because the left has no interest in accuracy they'll show a video in which

00:56:23.060 i said that if on election night the question was unsettled it was up in the air that i believe

00:56:30.420 donald trump should declare victory that's the advice that ambassador joseph p kennedy gave to his son

00:56:36.820 john kennedy in that razor-thin election that's the same advice that secretary of state james baker gave

00:56:44.100 to george w bush in that election the media said it was brilliant by the way i never said if trump loses

00:56:52.900 he should immediately declare victory i never said that or anything of the kind but you'll find a

00:56:58.340 thousand people saying otherwise on social media today that's what's great about the stone zone gives us a

00:57:05.780 chance to correct the record uh against the rabid left who make lying a specialty so uh i i appreciate

00:57:14.740 you raising maxine waters i'm afraid we're out of time here folks i want to remind you uh that the stone

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - June 03, 2024

Will The Deep State Really Try To Put Donald Trump In Jail？ Roger Stone Says Yes – The StoneZONE!

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