The Russian Collusion Hoax was perhaps the greatest single dirty trick in American political history. It was nothing less than the full use of the authority of the U.S. government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence agencies to utilize what both knew was fabricated evidence in an effort to illegally remove a sitting president, one duly elected by the American people. It took a five-year investigation by Special Counsel John Durham to conclude that there had indeed been a conspiracy, a conspiracy born in the office of President Barack Obama with Vice President Joe Biden, as well as National Security Advisor Susan Rice, the UN Ambassador Stephanie Powers, the FBI Director James Comey, and CIA Director John Brennan. What has not been determined is whether anyone will ever be punished for this extraordinary scandal. Join me and my good friend, George Papadopoulos, to help me break down what s going to happen next, and the key question of whether, with a new Attorney General and a new Director of the FBI, justice will be done in this case. The Stone Zone is a production of the Center for American History and Culture, a non-profit organization dedicated to preserving and celebrating the contributions of great Italian-Americans in the building of this nation. To learn more about the organization, please visit anchor.fm/thestonezone and use the hashtag on social media to tag and in the hashtag, to tag us in the episode. . To find a list of our sponsors and show our sponsors, go to gimlet.co/OurAdvertisers and show us your support by becoming a patron! ! Subscribe to our new sponsor: or become a patron of the show by clicking here. Subscribe and leave us a rating and review! Subscribe in Apple Podcasts Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices! Thank you for listening and reviewing this podcast! Like, rating and reviewing our work? Share this episode on your favorite podcasting platform! and share it on your social media platforms! If you like it, share it with a friend and review it on Insta- and tag us on your friends and comment about it so we can spread the word out there about it! Thanks for listening to the Stonezone! - Roger Stone - The StoneZONE - Thank you, Roger Stone, the Stone Zone & the StoneZ Zone - Troy Smith
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00:05:50.060George, as you know, the Russian collusion hoax has now been laid out there for all to see.
00:05:58.920It always bothered me that Bill Barr appointed John Durham to conduct an investigation, and he seems to have taken his time.
00:06:09.840He took over five years to tell us what basically you and I, Troy, millions of other Americans already knew.
00:06:17.800Perhaps he was going slow because he wanted to make sure that the statute of limitations had run out, and those who were guilty of egregious crimes, including that, I believe, of treason, would run out.
00:06:32.860Well, there actually is no statute of limitations on the question of treason, and conceivably, somebody like John Brennan, who's a central player in this entire fiasco, this entire scandal, could yet be brought to trial.
00:06:52.860The other day I was watching your ex profile, which, by the way, check George out on ex.
00:07:00.900He has a very lively feed on ex, formerly known as Twitter.
00:07:05.760I saw a story I hadn't seen before very recently by Carrie Pickett of the Washington Times.
00:07:11.940I tried to get Carrie on my 77 WABC radio show last weekend.
00:07:26.200Carrie Pickett essentially reported that a whistleblower has come forward to say that James Comey was actually investigating Donald Trump prior to our understanding of the opening of the counterintelligence investigation crossfire hurricane.
00:07:48.600In fact, he planted two attractive young women inside the campaign of Donald Trump.
00:07:58.520He infiltrated Trump's campaign with what is commonly known in the intelligence community as a honeypot operation,
00:08:07.860another an operation where, in this case, rather attractive women would try to seduce and perhaps even have sex with people in the Trump campaign in order to put them in a compromised position and get information from them.
00:08:27.800So my first question was, because you are among the earliest people for Donald Trump.
00:08:33.660So, George, let me come right out and say it.
00:08:35.720Did you get laid during this period by one of these honeypot agents?
00:08:41.320You know, you know, Roger, I always joke about this with my wife, because if you know how Simona looks like and you know how gorgeous she is,
00:08:48.580they probably didn't know my taste because the people that they were sending my way had absolutely no shot getting any information out of me or two, sabotaging me.
00:08:58.440So that's what it's almost like a comical story, but it's actually very dangerous because what this story really relays and lays out very clearly from Kerry in The Washington Times is that Comey not only initiated an investigation,
00:09:13.300but it was an off the books investigation into people like myself, Donald Trump, probably you, others going back way further back into 2015 potentially before crossfire hurricane started in the summer of 2016.
00:09:30.220So what does this really mean when you look at the New York Times and The Washington Post said that this was a justified, spontaneous investigation with credible evidence from our so-called foreign allies in July of 2016?
00:09:44.900With the new reporting and what Matt Taibbi has reported last April about the CIA's involvement, what this conclusion draws is that the CIA, with the Comey FBI, concocted a weaponized effort to fabricate not only evidence to launch this investigation into the Trump campaign, but to try to set up Trump should he end up getting elected.
00:10:08.360That's exactly what happened, and the only way we're going to actually have accountability is through transparency, and I think Pam Bounty as Attorney General is a great pick, but I also think we need somebody who's actually been invested in these type of matters, has investigated them, and has been a great defender of Donald Trump and his team when it came to these various investigations, and that's Matt Gaetz.
00:10:34.880I think Matt Gaetz, after he's resigned now, he should be appointed potentially special counsel to look into this type of egregious misconduct and this illegal surveillance conducted by Comey and the CIA and other foreign intelligence and lay out the facts where they are, Roger, and then apply the law fairly and equally.
00:10:54.560And should he do that, and should Pam do that at the Attorney General level, and people get prosecuted for doing illegal things? All the better. If they didn't do anything illegal, then they should not be prosecuted.
00:11:06.000But I think, based on what you just laid out, based on what Taibbi and Kerry and you are talking about, there was a conspiracy to not only defraud the American people, but potentially treason in itself, and I think the hammer is going to come down during the second Trump administration.
00:11:20.420Obviously, my question to you was a joke, and I want to make that very clear.
00:11:28.320We have a little bit of levity here in the Stone Zone.
00:11:33.060You're absolutely right, George, and there's another piece of this, as you know.
00:11:38.300John Brennan, the CIA director, a man, by the way, who is a convert to radical Islam, a man who, as our station chief in RIDA, went through a ritual ceremony in which he converted to Islam.
00:11:55.640John Guandolo, who can document this, a former central intelligence officer, has documented this right here on this show.
00:12:08.280Mr. Brennan is also, interestingly enough, the man who approved the visas for four of the hijackers that attacked this country on 9-11.
00:12:18.880He evidently, roughly the same time period, based on the way I laid it out, contacted the intelligence agencies of the so-called Five Eyes Nations, the English-speaking nations, those being the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and, of course, the United States would be the Five Eyes,
00:12:43.520and submitted a list of 26 of Donald Trump's supporters or staffers in order, essentially, to, as they say, bump us, in other words, spy on us.
00:12:59.900In other words, what was the rationalization?
00:13:01.700What was George Papadopoulos or Roger Stone doing to justify government surveillance?
00:13:08.680The answer is nothing, nothing whatsoever.
00:13:11.280Now, yesterday on this show, Lee Smith, who has a terrific new book called Disappearing the President, he argues that that probably actually didn't happen,
00:13:24.460but that there's evidence that Brennan and Comey said it happened because, essentially, they were trying to provide a cover, plausible deniability,
00:13:36.180for an operation they themselves were already running, meaning we were already under surveillance.
00:13:44.520I can tell you that on Inauguration Day 2017, so that would have been January 20th, 2017,
00:13:53.960above the fold on that day's New York Times, the day Trump was inaugurated,
00:13:59.640was a small story that said that three associates of Donald Trump were under electronic surveillance by the FBI for their ties to Russia.
00:14:13.160Those were specifically myself, Paul Manafort, and help me here, Troy, would have been our colleague in the Trump campaign.
00:14:35.080And, of course, I found this as a total non sequitur.
00:14:38.860I knew that I hadn't been in touch with anyone in Russia.
00:14:42.340I had, instead of looking into our Russian business dealings, I never had any Russian business dealings.
00:14:48.900The New York Times later doesn't change that story, but they soften the headline in their online version.
00:14:56.660My lawyers contacted them later after I had been charged by Mueller's grand jury, and the New York Times refused to come off of that story.
00:15:10.880Yet the government insists that I was never under surveillance.
00:15:15.620Don't be angry at me if I don't believe them.
00:15:19.580George, give us kind of the short version of what they did to you, because, you know, one of the things about the left is it doesn't matter how many times you get out there and tell the truth, and it doesn't matter how many times their crap is debunked, they'll be back in three weeks to recycle the same thing over and over again as if it happened.
00:15:43.700So I'm intrigued about the mysterious Maltese College professor, Joseph Mifsud, who suddenly appears in your life and then disappears.
00:16:00.040Yeah, no, look, Roger, it just that's part and parcel of what these reports have substantiated.
00:16:05.500What I've always said, and what you've always said, that this thing was not some sort of spontaneous investigation, but that it was premeditated, if you will, that there was an operation that was led by the CIA, our Five Eyes intelligence partners, likely other foreign governments.
00:16:23.780And then this investigation was then passed off to the FBI to so-called justify a domestic surveillance operation that would result in the appointment of people like Special Counsel Mueller, et cetera, et cetera, and the hope to impeach and convict Donald Trump.
00:16:41.060So the point I'm making is every single operative that came into my life was not an American, but was a foreign national.
00:16:49.100And this Maltese person, Joseph Mifsud, which we lay out in this brilliant new docuseries that you're part of, that I'm part of, on the Tucker Carlson Network, All the President's Men, was actually introduced to me, not in Russia, but in Rome, Italy,
00:17:07.340through a company that had numerous officials that I was working for that were ex-diplomats, ex-Western intelligence officials, people who were ambassadors working with the State Department, the CIA, the European Union, you know, these type of, this type of crowd.
00:17:25.500So I wasn't, like, nervous when I was introduced to this person.
00:17:29.340Then later on, this individual tells me, unsolicited, George, the Russians have Hillary Clinton's email.
00:17:35.400So what later was discovered, I think, through the Durham investigation and what Matt Gaetz masterfully did during his heated exchange with John Durham is to lay out the facts that there was an op that was laid out resulting in not only people like Joseph Mifsud,
00:17:51.400but these honeypots that you discussed earlier that were designed to sabotage individuals linked to the Trump campaign and ultimately the Trump presidency.
00:18:01.840This individual now has gone underground, no one has heard from him, I think, in the last seven years, after he had been basically making a living networking between London, Rome, and Washington, D.C.
00:18:14.060at the highest levels of the European Union and the United States government.
00:18:19.220People like that, Roger, just don't go hiding.
00:18:21.720He's being protected, I believe, and I think this person must be found.
00:18:25.800I think if we're going to have a new investigation into this scandal with people like Matt Gaetz or the likely attorney general, we need to start asking these pertinent questions to foreign governments, including Italy, the United Kingdom, Australia.
00:18:44.900What did you have to do with the Obama administration targeting the Trump campaign?
00:18:48.700These are all pertinent questions that we as American citizens, and even more importantly, the Trump administration must know because our bilateral relationships with these foreign allies depends on it.
00:19:01.600If our foreign allies were basically the attack dogs of the Obama administration to destroy the Trump presidency, Donald Trump, President-elect Trump, must know that, and he has to deal with these countries accordingly.
00:19:32.000And if we don't have it, then what they did to us in 2016, they will do it again, and we will never have a free and fair democratic process in this country with the intelligence agencies putting their fingers on both the truth
00:21:39.500I just want to say, you know, in this coming administration, I think when we have Michael Knowles on here, he said it best.
00:21:44.600You know, the Trump administration this time around has an opportunity to knock out some of these large media organizations
00:21:51.520in the same way that they've knocked out elitism in the Republican Party.
00:21:55.860You know, today, more than ever, the common man in this country has a voice in the Republican Party.
00:22:00.180And that's because of Donald Trump and his basically assault on the elitism within the Republican Party.
00:22:06.640And we need to see that take place in the media landscape as well, because, as you said, there's a lot of people in the New York Times, Politico,
00:22:13.180others that want to block individuals that don't necessarily come from Harvard, don't necessarily come from Princeton.
00:22:18.960You know, I went to a community college for a couple semesters and started my media journey that way, you know, just kind of learning as I went.
00:22:27.480And that experience is just as valuable as going to college, if not more so.
00:22:34.420And people in independent media, we need to make sure that they're at the forefront and really covering this administration as well as we can.
00:22:41.780But, George, you know, you are a foreign policy expert, I think it's fair to say.
00:22:46.760And we've had some alarming news over the last couple of weeks that I wanted to make sure that we bring up in this interview.
00:22:52.840One, we have a couple of headlines that Biden has authorized the use of U.S. missiles within Russia.
00:23:00.260We talked about it on this show and this position that this puts Russia in.
00:23:03.940I mean, it's just unbelievable where you have U.S. missiles flying into Russia, potentially killing Russian civilians.
00:23:10.460And then we also have news from yesterday that the U.S. has launched attacks against Iranian forces in Syria.
00:23:18.640This comes just hours after it was announced that there would be a ceasefire between Hezbollah and Israel.
00:23:24.260I wanted to ask you about what the Biden administration is doing.
00:23:27.280It seems to us here on the Stones and that they are pushing us to war in every way that they can heading into this next Trump administration.
00:23:35.280Yeah, no, no, it's a very dangerous situation that the U.S. is finding itself because U.S. military planning for decades had assumed that the U.S. could fight two wars simultaneously in two different theaters.
00:23:50.680But the only difference is Iraq and Afghanistan, the way that we fought those two wars, are not the same as Russia, Iran, and potentially China.
00:24:01.140And that's exactly what the Biden administration has actually ushered in for the United States military.
00:24:08.260Our men and women in uniform today are potentially going to see battle in three different continents.
00:24:18.040This is the beginning of World War III if the Biden administration had its way.
00:24:23.500So what I think that this is, there's only really two options, Troy and Roger.
00:24:27.180I think that after Donald Trump, President Trump met with President Biden in the Oval Office a week ago or so, it seemed to be a very cordial war meeting.
00:24:36.180Either President-elect Trump and President Biden agreed that this new posture by the United States military and NATO towards Russia and Ukraine would be part of a new negotiation strategy of the Trump administration, or the Biden administration is already trying to subvert peace and the Trump foreign policy doctrine before Trump even becomes president.
00:24:59.480I think it could be a combination of the two.
00:25:29.480I think it could be a combination of the two.
00:25:30.480I think it could be a combination of the two.
00:25:31.480I think it could be a combination of the two.
00:25:32.480I think it could be a combination of the two.
00:25:33.480I think that's Donald Trump's priority right now.
00:25:35.560I'm not the foreign policy expert that you are.
00:25:42.840This is your field, but it looks to me like the Russians so far have exercised enormous restraint.
00:25:52.720I don't think at this point even the Ukrainians want a nuclear holocaust, but the fact that there are no peace talks going on, we've had no talks whatsoever to try to resolve this matter.
00:26:07.620And then I think a lot of people miss this.
00:26:10.620In the last week, the Russians used a new type of ICBM missile that can evade missile defense systems.
00:26:20.620Now, in this particular case, Putin could have loaded those with warheads.
00:26:30.620It was a way to show NATO and the NATO nations, including the United States, that he could annihilate his enemies in Europe at a moment's notice.
00:26:45.620I've seen an excellent video by the businessman, Jeffrey Sachs.
00:26:50.620I've also seen this from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:26:53.620The extent to which the American people do not understand what the war in Ukraine is really about is extraordinary.
00:27:01.620When East and West Germany were allowed to be united by the Russians, the United States signed something called the Budapest Memorandum.
00:27:12.620This memorandum was negotiated by U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, in which we, in return, agreed not to push Ukraine into NATO.
00:27:26.620NATO having obviously a direct border, not to Ukraine, pardon me, having a direct border with Russia.
00:27:34.620This is later also memorialized in the Minsk Accords, yet another agreement.
00:27:41.620Yet I keep reading online that it's the Russian invasion of Ukraine that's internationally illegal.
00:27:48.620Well, we're in violation by our funding of this attack, this response by NATO, by Ukraine, who has built the silos to drop those missiles, those NATO missiles that would threaten Russia into place.
00:28:09.620And I think as all three of us know, Victoria Nuland, who is the arch criminal, who is the architect of this entire fiasco, going all the way back to the illegal coup in which the U.S. government took down a duly elected Ukrainian president.
00:28:27.620She has driven this war, and she blurted out in congressional hearings that not only are we planning to drop these missiles pointed at Russia into Ukraine, but that we have bioweapons labs throughout the country.
00:28:46.620You can understand how Putin would be concerned, how a potential leak from those labs could kill thousands of people, both Ukrainians and Russians.
00:28:58.960But this false narrative that Putin is the aggressor, Putin invaded Russia to defend himself.
00:29:06.700He warned everybody that he would do so if we continued to insist on pushing Ukraine into NATO, which really has to be defined as putting the missiles in place, which is really what he objects to.
00:29:21.320This idea that he's going to gobble up Ukraine, then he's going to take all of Poland, then he's going to take all of Germany, and who knows, he might even want France.
00:29:33.360George, isn't this a completely false narrative?
00:29:36.700It absolutely is, Roger, and actually what Russia has actually been relegated to as a junior partner now of China.
00:29:45.840In fact, what I think President-elect Trump and even candidate Trump, going back to 2016, his entire logic, I think, of actually having some sort of working relationship with Russia was twofold.
00:29:59.520One, to defeat radical Islam, and two, to prevent China and Russia from ossifying their geopolitical and geoeconomic relationship.
00:30:07.780And what has resulted ever since we've imposed these punitive sanctions on the Russian economy as a direct result of this war.
00:30:16.480The Russian economy is now completely beholden to China.
00:30:20.260And the United States military is on the verge of having to enter the Ukraine theater, along with NATO, to fight Russian troops in Ukraine.
00:30:31.760So this logic, this assumption that Russia is going to invade a NATO country makes no sense when France, the UK, and even the United States potentially might enter Ukraine to defeat or to try to defeat Russia.
00:30:48.100So going back to what you said about the Minsk Accords, I think that's probably what President Trump is going to have to look at.
00:30:54.860He's going to have to look at some sort of agreement that's going to result along the lines of the Minsk Accords, which is more autonomy in the east, de facto recognition of Crimea as part of Russia,
00:31:05.340and then some sort of militarized border demarcating the east and west of Ukraine.
00:31:09.720There are similar patterns and examples around the world of this.
00:31:14.840You have it in North Korea and South Korea and on the island of Cyprus.
00:31:18.460Now, I think the best case scenario of what happens in Ukraine is the Cyprus situation, where you have the northern part of Cyprus was invaded by the Turkish military in 1974.
00:31:30.080It's only recognized by Turkey, while the southern part of Cyprus is part of the European Union, enjoys relationships with the west, Israel, and the United States.
00:31:39.720So the eastern part of Ukraine is likely going to find itself under the tutelage of both Russia and China.
00:31:48.200The western part of Ukraine, in the best case scenario, will be under the tutelage of the United States, NATO, and potentially will join the European Union.
00:31:57.940And this will create some sort of peace agreement, I think, that as long as it remains, potentially decades down the line, you could see a reunified Ukraine, something that I don't think will happen.
00:32:09.540But there are now discussions of that happening on the island of Cyprus.
00:32:14.420And this could have all really been prevented if we just had implemented the Minsk Accords, like Jeffrey Sachs had discussed during his brilliant interview, I think, with Piers Morgan, is what you're discussing.
00:32:31.820Do you think that, assuming that she is confirmed, which I believe she will be, that the new Attorney General, Pam Bondi, who served as Attorney General of our home state of Florida, is going to pursue justice?
00:32:46.680Is she going to recalibrate the scales of justice, rebalance them at the State Department, and open up this, what will be a can of worms for the Democrats and the deep state?
00:32:58.500I think, arguably, you could say that the main reason that Donald Trump got 312 electoral votes was not simply based on the economy or the border, but because of the weaponization of justice in the United States, the two-tier justice system, and the perception that there is no rule of law.
00:33:16.980So, I said it a lot during the election season that, while the Vice President's pick might be symbolic and important, the Attorney General pick of Donald Trump is going to be the most important cabinet member in modern American history.
00:33:31.900Because this individual, whether it was a man or a woman, now it's obviously going to be Pam Bondi, that person has to go into the hornet's nest and clean house, revamp the entire system from top to bottom, and apply the law equally and fairly without regard to wealth or political affiliation.
00:33:50.520Because as of right now, Roger, the FBI has a record low approval rating. The Department of Justice has a record low approval rating, especially among Republicans. The CIA is basically ranking at like a 5% approval rating, and this is just not sustainable in a republic.
00:34:06.480If the people don't have faith in the system, if the people don't have faith in the system, the rule of law or the court system, then that affects investigations, that affects how the Department of Justice functions, how the FBI operates, the budget for the FBI.
00:34:19.300So, she has to go in for the sake of the country, not for some pet project, and actually revamp the entire system.
00:34:28.060And the only way to do that is by actually having a serious constitutionalist and patriotic individual at the head of the FBI, the same way that Donald Trump elected a person like John Ratcliffe to lead the CIA, and Tulsi Gabbard to be the head of DNI, because everything starts from the top.
00:34:46.320If the top is corrupt, then the rank and file will be corrupt. When you have patriotic Americans like those two at the top of the CIA and DNI, the rank and file will follow through with a more patriotic implementation of the Constitution and a rule-based order in the United States.
00:35:04.700So, she has to go all the way. She has to prosecute if she finds evidence of crimes, and she has to make these public spectacles to make it clear that in the United States of America, we will never, ever tolerate what people like James Comey, Barack Obama, James Clapper, and others did, not only to Donald Trump, but to over 75 million Americans who voted for him.
00:35:28.240You raised, I guess, the second most important question, one that Troy and I focused on only yesterday, and that is the appointment of the next FBI director.
00:35:39.320Now, we here at Stone Zone are strong supporters of Kash Patel. Yesterday, on the Stone Zone website, I published a monograph on why only Kash Patel, given his constitutional, pardon me, his institutional knowledge of the Russian collusion hoax.
00:36:00.040He is, after all, he is, after all, he is, after all, the man who conducted the investigation by the House Intelligence Committee under the leadership of Congressman Devin Nunes, that proves that the Russian collusion hoax was just exactly that, a canard.
00:36:15.740Eric Swallow's well, Adam Schiff, and little Ted Lieu, they tried desperately to debunk that report. They put out an alternative report. Now, with the hindsight of history, you can go back and look at those reports.
00:36:32.760Devin Nunes in Kash Patel's report holds up under scrutiny. Everything they said was true. The effort to obscure the truth by Adam Schiff is embarrassing. Schiff on CNN the other day, this guy lies as easily as he breathes.
00:36:52.220I mean, you can always tell when Adam Schiff is lying, because his lips are moving. Once again, he recycles the same false claim that the $30 million that Robert Mueller spent brought us absolute proof that a campaign official at the highest level of the Trump campaign was sharing polling information with a Russian intelligence asset.
00:37:17.700Let me say it again. Let me say it again. That is a bold-faced lie. First of all, the Trump campaign had no proprietary general election polling information. They had not yet gone into the field to conduct those polls.
00:37:33.600So, if it is true, and it probably was, that Paul Manafort shared polling information that you could have gotten online anywhere with a simple search with a man named Konstantin Kalimnik, the other problem with that false narrative is, as Matt Taibbi, more than any other independent journalist, has established, Konstantin Kalimnik is not a Russian intelligence asset.
00:37:59.800He's an American intelligence asset. In fact, he's reporting regularly to the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv. And we've seen the now declassified documents, pardon me, telegrams, cablegrams going back to the State Department, in which Kalimnik's name is actually redacted to cover his identity as a U.S. intelligence asset.
00:38:25.100I'm not sure how many times Adam Schiff can recycle the same lie. That's really all they have.
00:38:33.060George, you touched on this earlier, but I want to give you a chance to talk about it.
00:38:38.280You and Simona were deeply involved in this terrific new series, All the President's Men, a multi-part series that shows on the Tucker Carlson Network.
00:38:50.240Tell us a little bit about the film series, and then we're going to show people where they can get it.
00:38:58.940Yeah, no, it's an incredible docuseries that was, I think, five years in the making that we were very, obviously, grateful to have you part of it.
00:39:12.660And people like Mayor Giuliani, Tucker Carlson, Cash Patel, who you just mentioned, who I wholeheartedly think would be a great director or deputy director of the FBI, because he has pledged to do exactly what I just mentioned, and that is to clean house.
00:39:28.740That is to provide transparency and accountability to those who might or might not have been involved in illegal activity against the Trump campaign and the American people.
00:39:38.640So I think it's absolutely paramount that information is declassified and presented to the American people.
00:39:44.700And what this docuseries, All the President's Men, highlights for the first time and showcases, I should say, on the big screen, is what this conspiracy looked like from the people who lived it.
00:39:56.080People like yourself, myself, Cash Patel, Mayor Giuliani, others, and what we went through to get the truth out there.
00:40:06.620It was a valiant fight. We went through hell and back. I know certainly you did. Both Simone and I had some very, you know, tough times.
00:40:15.340We fought through it with the help of the American people, and we're doing great now, thank God.
00:40:20.540But this is a story about resilience. It's a story about accountability. It's a story about transparency.
00:40:26.040And it's a story that must be shown to millions of Americans to let them know what their government is capable of doing to them while the mainstream media tries to lull them to sleep.
00:40:37.640We were never going to allow that to happen. That's why we were very proud to work on this docuseries.
00:40:42.540And it took as many years as it did to finally get out.
00:40:45.360But I think it's more timely than ever, especially right now as the second Trump administration is about to start.
00:40:51.900And you can find the docuseries on Tucker Carlson Network where it's platformed exclusively right now.
00:40:59.920All right. I want to thank our guest, George Papadopoulos, for joining us.
00:41:05.440George is joining us from the West Coast, so he got up early to be with us, and we're very, very grateful for that.
00:41:11.500But on behalf of both Troy and myself and the entire Stone Zone community, I want to wish you and your wife an extraordinary, happy, and healthy Thanksgiving.
00:41:22.280And thank you again for joining us right here in the Stone Zone.
00:41:27.080To you both, too. Happy Thanksgiving. And thanks again for having me.
00:41:31.280All right, Troy. People come to expect a little roundup on American politics here.
00:41:36.920We have about 10 minutes left for the show.
00:41:39.300I know you curate these things very, very carefully with an idea to show the most ridiculousness of the left wing in America.
00:42:12.680Ellen DeGeneres has fled the United States after the Trump win.
00:42:16.280And it's expected that many more celebrities are going to follow.
00:42:20.380So, Roger, Trump did what ABC could never do, and that's get rid of Ellen DeGeneres.
00:42:25.840Your thoughts on her fleeing the country because of Trump's win?
00:42:28.800I mean, just a massive win for this country, no?
00:42:30.680Well, this is excellent, excellent news.
00:42:34.020As you know, just immediately after the election, I pointed out that while Robert De Niro had pledged that if Trump was elected, that he was going to leave the country, I just want to let Mr. De Niro know that, well, if he needs a lift to the airport, I'm most definitely available.
00:42:52.400At some point, it should be a good show.
00:42:55.960We should take that entire list of elitist freaks in the entertainment industry, many of whom probably will appear in the Diddy videotapes, who said that they were leaving the country and see how many of them actually leave.
00:43:30.400Well, Roger, one of the worst—you know, this guy is really one of the more disgusting members of Congress.
00:43:35.500He called for President Trump to be eliminated just days before an assassin tried to shoot Trump in the face in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:43:43.360And that is Representative Dan Goldman.
00:43:45.880He was on television just yesterday freaking out about the fact that Special Counsel Jack Smith has announced that he is dismissing the charges in his cases against President Trump.
00:43:58.580We have Goldman just losing his mind on CNN.
00:44:01.520Let's roll that clip and get your reaction to one of the sleaziest members of Congress.
00:44:05.520I think it is a shame for justice in this country.
00:44:11.000It establishes that Donald Trump is above the law.
00:44:14.260The Supreme Court put him above the law in that opinion that Paula just mentioned.
00:44:18.640But now he appears to escape full accountability for what were crimes charged by a grand jury.
00:44:26.700And I would just add one other thing that we ought to pay close attention to.
00:44:30.720We cannot normalize the fact that Donald Trump, as the president-elect, should not be held accountable for crimes that he committed before.
00:44:41.680Dan Goldman, of course, is a trust fund buddy, a baby who bought himself a seat in Congress.
00:44:51.300That when the U.S. Supreme Court rules, that's the law of the land.
00:44:55.340Whether you as a congressman like it or not is immaterial.
00:44:58.600Secondarily, the special counsel, Jack Smith, who you seem to love, his appointment is unconstitutional.
00:45:06.960He was never approved by the Congress.
00:45:09.600He was never confirmed by the U.S. Senate to have these sweeping prosecutorial powers.
00:45:15.980There is no law that creates his position.
00:45:19.320There is no budgeting to pay for his witch hunt.
00:45:23.220And most importantly, here's a question that is indisputable.
00:45:28.380No member of the executive branch, that would include Jack Smith, can be unfireable by the chief executive.
00:45:37.080But the way Merrick Garland has structured this unconstitutional appointment, it is at least their policy that no matter what, Trump or any president cannot fire Jack Smith.
00:45:53.720Now, our critics would argue that the D.C. Circuit held, listened to these arguments and rejected them.
00:46:02.360Folks, the D.C. Circuit is, that's not a court of law.
00:46:05.540That's a political shooting gallery where no Republican, no Trump supporter, no libertarian, no free thinking, nobody who isn't an active left-wing Democrat can get a fair trial.
00:46:19.580So you see a butt-hurt Dan Goldman there.
00:46:26.160He did say days before the attempt on Donald Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania, an attempt on Trump's life that Joy Reid at MSNBC said was staged.
00:46:37.800She said that nobody was shot, the whole thing was a psyop, that Trump had some kind of pellet or capsule that he bit in his mouth that would create the impression of blood.
00:46:50.800Tell that to Corey Comparatori, the brave firefighter who took one in the head, protecting and shielding his daughter and his wife.
00:47:00.400If, I've said it before, I'll say it again, if Joy Reid's IQ was one point lower, folks, you'd have to water her like a plant.
00:47:09.980If you really want to laugh, yesterday she interviewed AOC.
00:47:13.400AOC said that the appointment of Tulsi Gabbard, a woman who left the Democrat Party because it became the party of war to join the Republican Party, the party of peace, the party under whom Donald Trump started no new foreign wars.
00:47:31.880She said that this was a pro-war appointment.
00:47:37.540You've got to wonder, I mean, she may mix a mean martini or can put together a good Manhattan, but she didn't belong in Congress.
00:47:47.180And how her personal wealth went from virtually nothing to over $15 million on the salary of a congresswoman, that's very interesting in itself.
00:47:59.160I think it was Harry Truman who said, show me a person who makes money in politics and I'll show you a crook.
00:48:07.900We've got a few more minutes here, Troy.
00:48:11.820Well, Roger, as a veteran of so many presidential campaigns, I wanted to ask you about the situation brewing in the Democratic Party because Kamala Harris overspent on her campaign.
00:48:22.300You know, she raised a billion dollars and most of that was money from Democrat donors.
00:48:26.460And this is never talked about. Most of that's money from Democrat donors who said, we're not donating until you replace Biden.
00:48:33.500And then as soon as Biden replaced, at the behest of Barack Obama, they dumped money into Kamala Harris.
00:48:39.080So she raised a billion dollars. She spent a billion dollars and she ended up $20 million in debt.
00:48:44.480And this is now a major frontline story where donors are accusing her of basically stealing over $20 million.
00:48:51.380She blew through a billion dollars, Roger. Her campaign is now negative $20 million.
00:48:57.300I want to ask you, have you ever seen anything like this before? And how will this be resolved?
00:49:01.640Is she personally held responsible for this?
00:49:04.340Who ends up on the hook for this $20 million debt that Kamala Harris has left behind?
00:49:08.400It's a very, very interesting question.
00:49:12.000Under the old election law, John Glenn, the famous U.S. astronaut who ran for president, ended up liable for the enormous campaign debt that he left in his failed bid.
00:49:24.560And that virtually destroyed he and his wife financially.
00:49:28.380David Plouffe actually admitted yesterday, first he left the Platform X, formerly Twitter, entirely shut down his account.
00:49:41.000Then he opened it back up and he admitted that all of the polls being put out by his campaign that showed that either Kamala Harris was ahead or was competitive, they were completely fabricated.
00:50:52.700She wasn't even really nominated last time.
00:50:55.460She was anointed by Barack Obama and his cronies when they forced Joe Biden out of the race.
00:51:03.700It's interesting because I had a high-level Democrat source, longtime friend of mine, told me on a Friday that Joe Biden would withdraw from the race on Sunday afternoon, but he would not hold a press conference or a stand-up presser, wouldn't go down to the White House press room.
00:51:21.100He would do so through the release of a letter, which he told me will not be on White House stationery.
00:52:19.940I think he deeply resented the way that they forced him out.
00:52:24.340But then the the the lack of respect to have a sitting Democrat primary.
00:52:31.380And I'm not a Biden fan, obviously, but to to allow him address the Democrat convention after midnight on the opening night and then tell him he has to get out of town,
00:52:41.180that he can't even be there for the nomination of the presidential campaigns, candidates of his party.
00:52:48.880That's that's an ignominious insult to a sitting president of the United States.
00:53:09.060You know, he he fulfilled what I think is at least his public responsibility of of welcoming the president-elect to the White House and promising a smooth transition of government.
00:53:19.920Of course, that's what they promised Trump in 2016.
00:53:22.980And as George Papadopoulos, who joined us today, said, even before that, they had begun the effort to spy on and destroy the Trump presidency.
00:53:34.360So for those who think, well, everything's going to be great in America, you're you're a little premature.
00:53:43.580Said this on the show before, and I'll ask you to get your comment and then we're going to have to wrap it up for the Thanksgiving weekend.
00:53:49.540But anytime the American people elected outside or president, they first try to beat you in the polls.
00:53:57.240They they try to prop up their candidates.
00:53:59.460But after they lose, their goal is to to dilute your agenda, delay your agenda or or derail your agenda.
00:54:11.120And they always have the same argument.
00:54:13.460Hey, you don't really know how government works.
00:54:22.580It happened under Jimmy Carter, happened under Ronald Reagan, happened under the first Trump administration.
00:54:28.900They infiltrate your administration with people who, while they may share the same party as you, they certainly don't share the same agenda as you.
00:54:39.500I can tell you, just because I have been on the periphery of the Trump presidential transition, which, by the way, is being paid for privately so that the documents involving the transition cannot go to that GSA where deliberations could be used against Trump by being misinterpreted.
00:55:01.920That's not going to happen in this administration.
00:55:04.460Last time, Donald Trump selected his cabinet secretaries.
00:55:10.380Then he allowed the cabinet secretaries to select the the assistant secretaries, the deputy secretaries and on down.
00:55:19.520This time, Donald Trump was putting in enormous hours, by the way.
00:55:23.980I mean, you might see him on the golf course, although I don't think the Secret Service wants him to play golf for reasons of his security.
00:55:32.120He's really digging in to make sure that at all levels of the new administration, the people he appoints are committed to carrying out his agenda, not their agenda.
00:55:43.880All right, Troy, I'm afraid we have to leave it there.
00:55:47.820What's your plan for Thanksgiving, my friend?
00:55:55.340So working on that building, as always.
00:55:57.280All right, well, I'm sure you're going to go to the local Denny's and get the Thanksgiving special.
00:56:03.920We're going to be going with friends and loved ones to the Jacksonville area, take a little bit of time off from the Stone Zone and celebrate this important holiday.
00:56:16.520I want to thank our good friend George Papadopoulos for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:56:21.800George is, I think you're going to hear great friends from George in the new year.
00:56:25.940I know he's working on a number of things that will put him back in the public eye.
00:56:31.160But I want to thank him and his great wife.
00:56:34.060If you haven't checked out that series at the Tucker Carlson Network, All the President's Men, I strongly, strongly commend it to you.
00:56:42.540So on behalf of Troy Smith, my co-host here, the co-pilot of the Stone Zone, I want to thank all of you and remind you that if you don't, if you're not able to catch our show every day at 4 o'clock Central, 5 o'clock Eastern at worldviewtube.com, where it premieres, you can see it later in the day by going to rumble.com slash Roger Stone to see the Stone Zone.
00:57:12.080So go to Rumble, download that to your app, follow us there, set the notifications so you'll always be in the zone.
00:57:20.640Until tomorrow, or I should say until Monday, because we're going to be on hiatus tomorrow, we'll bring you one of our older shows.