The Tucker Carlson Show - Aaron Lewis on Being Blacklisted from Radio & Why Record Labels Intentionally Promote Terrible Music

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00:00:38.920 How'd you wind up singing country music?

00:00:43.200 Well, my childhood, the soundtrack to my childhood is all country music.

00:00:50.980 That's all I heard from the time I woke up in the morning until the time the lights went out.

00:00:56.480 It's funny, you're from northern New England, which I think people don't associate with country music, but it's...

00:01:01.560 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:01:02.800 A country, like out in the woods, everybody's listening to country music.

00:01:06.140 For sure.

00:01:06.480 But, yeah, I would...

00:01:30.220 I spent a lot of time at my grandparents' house.

00:01:33.260 Where?

00:01:33.580 In Wallingford, Vermont.

00:01:40.600 Spent a lot of time there.

00:01:42.240 It was a safe place for me.

00:01:46.100 And my grandmother would wake up in the morning, and the very first thing that happened before an egg hit the frying pan or anything was the country radio got turned on.

00:01:57.000 Wow.

00:01:58.200 And it was on all day long.

00:02:00.920 And the very last thing that got shut off before the light got shut off was the radio.

00:02:05.980 So, I mean, it didn't matter if I was going fishing with my grandfather or whether I was at the house.

00:02:14.040 If we were going fishing, I can still visualize the pile of eight tracks on the floor of his Gran Torino with the boat tied to the top of the car.

00:02:26.540 And it was just, it was permanent.

00:02:32.580 There was always country music, always.

00:02:34.620 And if we were in the boat, he was singing it.

00:02:38.660 So, my whole childhood is just steeped in country music.

00:02:44.040 So, when I decided to do something different because I had gotten to the end of my contract with Stained, and I was now free to do whatever I wanted to do, I had always thought about putting out a solo record, if you will.

00:03:05.960 Well, a lot of lead singers do that.

00:03:09.940 I didn't want it to be stained light.

00:03:15.000 I wanted to do something different and reinvent what I was doing without reinventing myself.

00:03:23.360 And the only direction to go was country music because it was such a part of my being, part of my whole childhood memories and the landscape of it.

00:03:41.580 So, when I decided that I was actually going to do something by myself, that was the direction that I went.

00:03:49.100 It's funny, I think people think of country music as a regional music, Southern, Appalachian, you know, Tennessee, Southwest Virginia, kind of the birthplace.

00:04:00.680 They don't think of it as the music of the country.

00:04:04.980 So, it's like Central California, Bakersfield, of course.

00:04:08.240 Oh, yeah.

00:04:08.940 Vermont.

00:04:09.720 Bakersfield is a piece of Texas.

00:04:11.240 Of, exactly.

00:04:12.600 In the middle of California.

00:04:13.880 And you grew up in Northern New England, which is, you know, very rural, one of the most rural places in the country.

00:04:18.620 And you get out of the cities in New England, and it's as country as country gets.

00:04:23.800 And it's as red as red gets.

00:04:25.840 That's for sure.

00:04:25.980 Even the state of Massachusetts.

00:04:27.480 Oh, I know.

00:04:28.060 If you look at the state of Massachusetts broken down county by county, the whole state's red, except for Boston, Worcester, and Springfield.

00:04:36.560 Yeah.

00:04:37.340 You get outside those three big cities, and in the state of Massachusetts, which is one of the worst.

00:04:42.560 It is.

00:04:43.040 California, too.

00:04:44.120 You get outside those big cities, it's all red.

00:04:47.200 Yeah, not a lot of Kamala voters up near Mount Shasta.

00:04:51.140 No.

00:04:52.320 No.

00:04:52.960 No, not at all.

00:04:54.120 It's just, music is such a window into attitudes and culture.

00:05:00.360 And it's just, it's funny that country music is basically popular everywhere outside the cities.

00:05:07.860 Mm-hmm.

00:05:08.460 100%.

00:05:09.140 Interesting.

00:05:10.420 So how, was it weird for you to go from one genre to a completely different one?

00:05:17.460 Weird?

00:05:19.440 Mm, I don't know if it was, I don't know if it was weird.

00:05:23.000 It was foolish by everybody else's accounts, because I had already built something substantial in the rock industry.

00:05:34.880 Yeah.

00:05:35.120 And I kind of walked away from that and went to a completely different genre that there might be some overlap of stained fans that also liked country music.

00:05:47.960 But I was certainly in that moment shooting myself in the foot and having to basically start over because my value in the industry was towards the rock industry.

00:06:04.720 And nobody knew who I was in the country industry unless they would listen to rock music, too.

00:06:12.340 So it kind of, in perfect me form, I took the hard road and decided I was going to change genres along with putting something out by myself, which would have been hard enough as it is.

00:06:29.040 How has country music changed itself as a genre?

00:06:31.720 I don't really recognize country music anymore.

00:06:36.420 Really?

00:06:37.140 Well, what's playing on the radio?

00:06:38.980 Like, how do you draw a line from what's on the radio now and called country music to what was on the radio when we were kids called country music?

00:06:49.780 Like, there's no line to be drawn.

00:06:53.040 I listen to Bluegrass Junction, so this is all outside my world.

00:06:58.200 For sure.

00:06:58.920 Tell me how it's changed.

00:07:01.720 It's been infiltrated by California, just like everything else.

00:07:07.260 Ooh.

00:07:08.200 Really?

00:07:08.820 When, within my career, about halfway through it, everything changed in the industry.

00:07:17.000 And a lot of consolidation happened.

00:07:18.880 A lot of people lost their jobs at whatever record label they were at or they were in the top 40 side of things and everything got condensed and they lost their, well, they all either went to Nashville or they went to country radio.

00:07:37.420 And I truly believe that that has something to do with why country has become so popified where it's like the land of the misfit toys where it's not really country.

00:07:53.900 It's not really pop.

00:07:55.960 It kind of rides right down the middle of it and becomes its own thing.

00:08:01.740 And they should call it its own thing.

00:08:04.340 Like, it should have its own genre and classification.

00:08:07.360 And instead they call it country.

00:08:09.900 And I don't know how you can put George Jones and Merle Haggard in the same sentence as Morgan Wallen or the Rascal Flats.

00:08:24.080 I mean, how do you even, how does that correlate?

00:08:28.380 How does that fall into the same category?

00:08:30.580 Because it doesn't in any way to me.

00:08:34.400 Which is better?

00:08:35.120 Country.

00:08:38.320 Yeah.

00:08:39.400 We have pop music.

00:08:41.440 I think pop music with a country twang is a little weird.

00:08:45.400 Why'd they do, did that happen organically or do you think it was on purpose?

00:08:48.760 It's the, it's the control mechanism.

00:08:51.380 It's the people in, in power calling the shots and, and being the tastemakers, if you will, and, and choosing for us what we want to hear.

00:09:02.080 And then stuffing it down our throat until we accept it.

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00:12:41.820 There's something a little radical, or maybe more than a little radical, about traditional, you know, Johnny Cash doing, you know, a live show from the Folsom Yard.

00:12:52.060 You know, it's like, it's pretty, it's pretty untamed in a lot of ways.

00:12:57.740 I mean, there's like a true outlaw, not a fake outlaw element, but like a real outlaw element.

00:13:02.280 I think that country music is Americana.

00:13:06.000 Like, it's the, it's the genre that we as, as the country of America are certainly responsible for.

00:13:16.180 It came from here.

00:13:18.000 Yeah.

00:13:18.540 It didn't come from somewhere else where, where rock had a lot of English influence.

00:13:27.100 All those English bands from back in the 60s and stuff.

00:13:29.780 And, but, country music is, country music still isn't worldwide.

00:13:36.960 It's, it's big in Germany.

00:13:38.700 It's, it might have, it's got a listening audience in, in England and in Germany, but it doesn't expand much further than that.

00:13:47.000 Like, country music is an American genre.

00:13:52.160 And it's become less American and more international.

00:13:56.140 Yeah.

00:13:56.440 More like Barcelona.

00:13:57.560 It's just everyone's city.

00:13:58.780 Right.

00:13:59.020 Like, it's like, it's like, it's like the land of the misfit toys.

00:14:04.760 That's the best way to describe it, where it doesn't fit in pop, doesn't fit in country, just kind of, but you can push it in either direction and it would, and it works, but it has no, it doesn't have its own soul, if you will.

00:14:25.120 It's not, it's definitely not pure to the genre.

00:14:28.020 Do you think, um, do you think, um, that there's still a demand for it?

00:14:32.440 I mean, could.

00:14:33.080 Country music?

00:14:33.840 Yeah, real country music.

00:14:34.700 Could Merle Haggard make a living today?

00:14:37.880 Whew.

00:14:39.020 I don't know.

00:14:40.860 I mean, I would certainly hope so.

00:14:43.700 But if you listen to the landscape that's on country radio right now, I don't see where he would fit in at all.

00:14:52.840 Hmm.

00:14:53.740 I don't see where I fit in at all.

00:14:56.040 Are you on the radio?

00:14:57.200 No.

00:14:58.320 Really?

00:14:58.940 No, they won't play me.

00:15:00.120 They don't like my, my, my, uh, thoughts on things.

00:15:04.060 Really?

00:15:05.120 Mm-hmm.

00:15:05.460 How important is, well, it's obviously you, how many shows you do last year?

00:15:09.840 Oh, probably 175, 180 shows last year.

00:15:14.600 Yeah, so obviously you're.

00:15:16.560 Pretty much, pretty much all of them sold out.

00:15:18.640 You're doing fine.

00:15:19.880 I'm doing just fine.

00:15:20.760 It's nice to not have to bow down to the powers that be.

00:15:27.980 It's nice to not have to undermine my value in a market because the radio station wants to get as much out of my show as they can.

00:15:42.700 So they sell my ticket for a Lodo $10 ticket and they've just devalued my value in that market by selling such a cheap ticket when I can sell hard tickets.

00:15:58.620 I don't, I don't need to sell, sell myself short by, by doing favors for a radio station.

00:16:09.600 Is that how it works?

00:16:10.460 Oh.

00:16:12.700 First you sell your soul to the record label and then you sell everything else you've got to the machine, which is the radio that drives music.

00:16:23.360 Really?

00:16:24.080 Yeah.

00:16:24.260 Is it satellite or terrestrial radio?

00:16:26.040 All of it.

00:16:27.320 All of it.

00:16:27.800 Satellite just took over.

00:16:29.200 Yeah, but it's the same idea?

00:16:30.560 Same concept.

00:16:31.520 So how does, if you don't mind revealing the sleazy underbelly of the business, like, that you don't participate in apparently, how does that work?

00:16:38.800 Um, we're the, we are the, the indentured servant.

00:16:48.020 I mean, I think that indentured servitude laws are literally still on the books in California so that they can get away with what they do with us.

00:16:58.060 The performer, the artist you're talking about?

00:17:00.440 Yeah.

00:17:00.880 Everything, every, every penny that we ever get paid from a record label is all a loan.

00:17:06.580 It's all a loan.

00:17:08.880 They, they, to give you a, just a, a conceptual breakdown, this is all just kind of a, take a dollar.

00:17:18.340 Yeah.

00:17:19.420 So 25 cents of that dollar, let's just say, it's probably more, goes to the record label just because, because they invested.

00:17:32.700 The rest of it, business management takes their percentage.

00:17:37.800 Lawyer takes their percentage.

00:17:40.020 Management takes their percentage.

00:17:42.140 Business manager takes their percentage.

00:17:44.040 Then, then the government takes their percentage.

00:17:52.360 And then the overhead.

00:17:54.660 And then what's left, let's call it 10 cents at the end of the day.

00:17:59.880 That goes back to the record label to pay back the loan that they gave you of the money that they gave you up front.

00:18:14.600 Actually.

00:18:15.940 So any money that I've actually made from the record label, I've, I've made them 80 times as much.

00:18:29.880 Like, that's a, of a dollar, let's just say there's 12 cents left.

00:18:35.680 The 12 cents actually goes to pay back the record label for the money that they gave you.

00:18:40.180 It's insane.

00:18:41.880 How does that still exist?

00:18:43.720 Because of the laws on the books.

00:18:47.960 It's like, it's insane.

00:18:50.340 Are the record label people adding a lot to the process?

00:18:53.660 Are they creative geniuses?

00:18:56.200 No.

00:18:58.400 I just love how all the people who are getting rich from creativity.

00:19:03.060 Are the ones that can't do it.

00:19:04.140 Are the least creative people.

00:19:05.500 They're the ones that can't create.

00:19:07.080 But they are making the most money off of the creatives.

00:19:10.640 We're here because who wouldn't want a record label?

00:19:15.520 Who wouldn't want to live this dream?

00:19:17.440 Who wouldn't want to make music?

00:19:19.320 If they're a musician, who wouldn't want to make music as their livelihood?

00:19:23.120 So we're in a very, a very fucked up situation where there's a thousand people behind me.

00:19:30.520 Yeah.

00:19:31.080 That would kill me to have my freaking job.

00:19:34.140 Yes, exactly.

00:19:35.060 So I'm an, I got no leverage.

00:19:37.600 Television's the same.

00:19:38.620 I got no leverage with the, with the industry.

00:19:40.720 Yeah.

00:19:41.260 Because I'm, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm easily chewed up and spit out because there's a thousand people behind me waiting to get chewed up and spit out.

00:19:53.880 How long did you participate in that system?

00:19:55.860 Uh, it was 2012 or 13, that last stained record that we put out was, was the, the last record where I really had to do the dance and, and play the game with radio and, and not ruffle any feathers and not offend anybody.

00:20:25.160 And, and play the game.

00:20:28.200 And then once that contract was done, I tried to play the game with country music.

00:20:35.140 And then I released a song called That Ain't Country that was basically talking about the whole industry that has created this amalgamation of music that doesn't really fit in a genre.

00:20:47.640 Um, and that was the end of it.

00:20:50.280 I put out a song expecting, trying to get country radio to play it about them and they didn't like that very much.

00:20:59.080 Okay.

00:20:59.200 So you attacked the distributors and then were surprised when they didn't distribute it.

00:21:03.460 Yeah.

00:21:03.700 Super smart.

00:21:04.700 Yeah.

00:21:05.240 Super smart.

00:21:06.140 Good.

00:21:06.520 But I admire your purity.

00:21:08.420 But principled.

00:21:09.800 Exactly.

00:21:10.460 But principled.

00:21:11.640 That's, that's hilarious.

00:21:13.600 So, uh, that didn't, that didn't work.

00:21:15.840 Like, so what did it do?

00:21:17.860 Did it work?

00:21:19.020 Well, I don't know.

00:21:19.740 It basically, it didn't work to my advantage to be getting played on the radio, but it certainly freed me from being a servant to radio.

00:21:33.620 Yes.

00:21:34.120 So, it's a, I, it is so freeing to not be under that thumb.

00:21:47.840 Yes.

00:21:48.800 I can write songs that are over three and a half minutes long.

00:21:53.780 I can put lyrics in songs that, that I want to put there.

00:22:02.520 You know, I'm just, I, I'm no longer held to the industry standard because I'm not necessarily trying to participate in the industry game.

00:22:17.600 I go out there, I play successful shows.

00:22:21.260 I have a fan base that seeks out my music and doesn't just listen to what the radio stuff's down their throat.

00:22:31.100 And I'm very, very blessed and very, very lucky that I don't have to participate in the game anymore.

00:22:42.280 How has Spotify changed it?

00:22:44.780 Huh.

00:22:45.020 I'm a Spotify billionaire.

00:22:51.680 I've had over a billion spins on Spotify.

00:22:55.080 If I only had a penny for every spin on Spotify, that would be fantastic.

00:23:04.700 A dollar, a quarter, a penny from every spin with over a billion spins on Spotify.

00:23:13.980 All I have is a plaque.

00:23:16.480 You never got paid?

00:23:17.280 It's so, by the time Spotify plays it, there's so many people in the middle.

00:23:25.840 I don't even think a penny comes my way, to be honest with you.

00:23:28.960 For a billion spins, you made no money?

00:23:30.740 I don't think so.

00:23:31.580 I don't, that's not how Spotify works.

00:23:33.260 Well, how does it work?

00:23:34.640 I'm not sure.

00:23:36.100 I'm just, I just know that, that it cuts a lot of people in on my financial stream.

00:23:43.320 That's all I know.

00:23:45.980 A lot of people who are not you.

00:23:47.460 Right.

00:23:48.160 That, once again, aren't the creatives, and they're the ones making all the money.

00:23:53.140 So you think someone-

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00:27:34.960 Your talk.

00:27:35.800 That's amazing to me.

00:27:38.540 It's a billion plays more than, and you don't get paid.

00:27:42.760 I don't, I mean, I might have.

00:27:45.380 It certainly wasn't enough for me to notice.

00:27:48.660 Whoa, where the hell did all this money come from in my bank account?

00:27:51.540 Oh, I got spun over a billion times on Spotify.

00:27:55.280 That's why.

00:27:56.540 I mean, do I know for sure that no money came in?

00:28:02.180 No.

00:28:02.820 Well, if you don't remember, then obviously what's been meaningful.

00:28:06.500 It's minuscule, comparatively speaking.

00:28:09.900 Well, that is so interesting.

00:28:11.420 Have there been-

00:28:12.480 That's basically the whole thing.

00:28:15.020 The amount of money that we generate as the artist, what we get back for that is minuscule,

00:28:23.220 comparatively speaking, to what everybody else with their hands in the cookie jar makes.

00:28:28.940 So whenever I hear people talk about the-

00:28:31.140 I'm not complaining.

00:28:32.240 Well, you should complain.

00:28:32.960 Well, I'm very blessed, and I'm very lucky, and I'm, and, you know, obviously God has a

00:28:40.180 plan for me, because this, the way that all of this has just happened, and I am just a

00:28:46.280 passenger, and I'm not driving this ship.

00:28:49.920 Yes.

00:28:50.140 But, and I'm very lucky and very blessed, but I can still recognize the faults to the system

00:29:00.780 and not necessarily be complaining about how amazing of a ride I've had doing this.

00:29:07.980 It's just, it's interesting.

00:29:09.520 I mean, but I should just say Spotify has been such a huge blessing for us on this podcast.

00:29:14.140 I mean, it's just crazy.

00:29:14.920 It's an amazing new way for people to consume.

00:29:19.300 Yeah.

00:29:19.640 And it's run by a guy I know who owns it, and I think is a good guy, and committed to

00:29:26.020 speech, and so I'm very pro-Spotify, but I just didn't understand that the creators on

00:29:34.420 the music side were cut out of the benefits.

00:29:37.160 Again, not cut out completely.

00:29:39.660 No, but, I mean, a billion, that's a lot.

00:29:41.820 I mean, I should have seen a pretty significant deposit into my account for that many spins.

00:29:47.600 Well, what's interesting is they probably paid somebody, but not you, so you hear the-

00:29:51.360 Yeah, probably.

00:29:51.860 I'm sure my record label got paid.

00:29:53.540 Well, you see the accounting of the U.S. economy, like, what's our GDP?

00:29:56.820 You know, how much money is the United States economy generating?

00:29:59.300 And, like, a lot.

00:30:01.180 So, the question is not, you know, is the engine functioning?

00:30:04.600 The question is, where's the money going?

00:30:06.620 And my complaint about the U.S. is not capitalism, which clearly works, it's about who benefits

00:30:14.780 from it.

00:30:15.440 And it does seem like the least useful, least creative, certainly least patriotic, but least

00:30:23.620 decent people make all of them big money.

00:30:27.260 And I think that's, this is another example of it.

00:30:30.880 Like, how did Larry Fink get so real?

00:30:32.340 Like, what did Larry Fink do for America, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera?

00:30:36.160 Figured out a way to completely leech off of everything that's already there.

00:30:44.020 Well, that's certainly the way it seems to me.

00:30:46.700 It certainly does, right?

00:30:48.640 So, how do you make money by getting on the road?

00:30:51.320 That is how, and that's why I work as hard as I do, because that is where I make my money.

00:30:57.820 I don't make money on record sales.

00:31:00.540 I don't make money off of spins.

00:31:04.380 I make money off of merch and actually playing shows.

00:31:10.300 Wow.

00:31:11.760 But that's a much, it feels like that's a much more direct transaction.

00:31:15.920 Like, you're renting the venue, you're performing for two and a half hours or whatever, you're

00:31:21.860 getting a cut of gate.

00:31:22.700 Like, there are fewer middlemen in that, right?

00:31:25.660 There seems to be.

00:31:26.540 Less of a machine that puts itself in between.

00:31:33.900 Yeah.

00:31:35.020 But there is this thing that has taken place since I got my record deal 28 years ago, 27

00:31:44.760 years ago, is called a 360 deal.

00:31:50.360 Where now, the younger artists, they're sharing the profits for everything.

00:32:00.160 The record label gets a cut of their merch.

00:32:03.300 The record label gets a cut of their live performance pay.

00:32:07.560 The record label gets a cut of 360.

00:32:10.720 Everything.

00:32:11.840 Why?

00:32:12.040 No matter what you generate, because they can, because there's a thousand people behind every

00:32:17.300 single person with a record label, with a, with a record deal that wants it as badly

00:32:23.020 as you did before you got it.

00:32:25.480 And they can give you the shittiest deal on the planet, because if you don't take it, the

00:32:32.040 guy behind you will.

00:32:32.940 And they're not only greedy and dishonest, ruthless, they're also very political, right?

00:32:44.500 The record labels.

00:32:45.620 And usually in the wrong direction.

00:32:47.800 And I don't understand how a record label that, I mean, it certainly isn't capitalism with

00:32:56.240 a conscience, but it is, it's certainly capitalism where the record label is in it to make money.

00:33:06.340 And it's not necessarily about what's the art that is being created by the creative.

00:33:15.860 It's about the money that that creative artist is going to generate for the record label to

00:33:24.200 cover the 15 failures that they brought to the table.

00:33:28.380 And dumped all this money into.

00:33:30.060 I get it.

00:33:31.300 Publishing is the same way.

00:33:32.700 Yeah.

00:33:32.860 So, you know, you've been in it your whole life.

00:33:36.820 You've toured with everybody.

00:33:38.940 Pretty much everybody.

00:33:39.380 Everybody.

00:33:40.100 You were telling me last night about smoking weed with Willie Nelson on his bus many years

00:33:44.340 ago.

00:33:44.840 So you've toured with everybody.

00:33:47.240 How many creators, artists, performers in your business, in private, hate and resent the

00:33:55.100 record companies?

00:33:58.220 Most.

00:33:58.980 Most.

00:34:00.720 Most, if not all.

00:34:02.860 I don't know that in a private setting, in a private conversation where things aren't

00:34:09.760 going any further.

00:34:10.940 I don't know of anybody that I know in the business that would have good things to say

00:34:18.160 about it.

00:34:20.100 Would it be possible for a decent person to start a record company and record label?

00:34:24.500 I would think so.

00:34:28.720 I would think so.

00:34:30.360 But the problem is, is that the operating system, it's just, it's not decent.

00:34:45.060 Right.

00:34:45.360 So a decent person could start a record label.

00:34:48.820 But unless they change the entire formula and in the entire way that the whole business

00:34:56.240 is ran, the business itself is lecherous.

00:35:01.860 So a good person could start it, but unless they change the whole thing, it's going to

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00:38:19.120 So when did you start having conflict with your corporate masters over politics?

00:38:27.320 Hmm.

00:38:30.680 Obama getting elected.

00:38:32.960 That was a moment, wasn't it?

00:38:34.660 And you weren't fully on board?

00:38:36.460 Huh.

00:38:37.340 Hell no.

00:38:37.940 You didn't worship black Jesus?

00:38:39.440 I immediately recognized it as a horrible blow to our country.

00:38:47.360 Immediately.

00:38:48.060 Not even knowing why yet.

00:38:49.700 Yeah.

00:38:50.060 Like, I just knew.

00:38:51.400 Instinct tells you.

00:38:52.400 Instinctively.

00:38:53.060 In my gut, I knew that we had made a massive, massive mistake as a country.

00:38:58.700 Yeah, that's for sure.

00:38:59.340 And so many balls got rolling during that time frame that we're still trying to slow down.

00:39:06.300 Oh, I know.

00:39:08.780 But yeah.

00:39:12.260 When TMZ would get me when I landed in Los Angeles and I was walking through the airport and they'd get me and ask me questions.

00:39:20.780 And that was when I started expressing my feelings and my opinions on politics.

00:39:29.940 You know how they get you?

00:39:31.000 Do you know the answer to this question?

00:39:32.040 I found out.

00:39:33.000 I've been gotten a few times at LAX by TMZ and other airports.

00:39:36.840 And I once asked, like, how did you know I was on that plane?

00:39:41.400 Like, you know, because they know.

00:39:44.040 Because they bribed the airline.

00:39:46.160 The guy told me this.

00:39:47.480 They bribed the airline to give them the manifest.

00:39:51.200 Makes sense.

00:39:52.180 Now that makes sense.

00:39:53.160 It's so corrupt.

00:39:54.880 How out of nowhere they're like, hey.

00:39:57.660 Yeah.

00:39:58.120 Like, what?

00:39:59.340 What?

00:40:00.180 How'd you even know I was here?

00:40:01.840 Thanks, United.

00:40:03.640 Bless you, American.

00:40:04.640 You know, it's pretty.

00:40:06.480 Anyway, so they would, you'd roll off the flight at LAX.

00:40:10.000 Someone come up to you and ask you a question.

00:40:11.580 What did you say?

00:40:13.480 Oh, I was, I had no issues then, nor do I have any issue now telling anybody exactly how I feel.

00:40:22.760 Um, and, you know, I, I was already talking about the unconstitutionalness of Obama's actions and what he was doing and, I mean, mentioning that what he was doing was borderline treasonous.

00:40:44.700 And, and that was how I started the ball rolling.

00:40:49.940 And what kind of responses did you get?

00:40:52.460 Because you weren't allowed to criticize Obama there for a while or else you were, I can't remember the word, racist.

00:40:57.040 Yeah, I know.

00:40:57.840 I've been, I've been labeled that.

00:40:59.620 Racist!

00:41:00.020 And then there was, there was one time I was, I was playing a show down by the, down by the border.

00:41:05.660 And, uh, I mean, I've played a lot of shows and I've played a lot of shows back before I had a record deal.

00:41:15.520 And this was the rudest crowd I had played to in, I don't know, 15 years.

00:41:23.860 I'm playing completely acoustic all by myself.

00:41:27.200 Not even any extra musicians on stage or anything, just me and my guitar.

00:41:31.640 I could not get them to shut up all night, just talking over me like I was the jukebox.

00:41:39.640 And I made the mistake of back then at the end of the show, I would do a song completely unplugged where I would pull a chord out of my guitar and I'd walk away from the microphone and I'd go stand right on the edge of the stage.

00:41:57.360 And I would acoustically play the last song with no microphone, with no nothing, just belting to the crowd.

00:42:06.940 And for some strange reason, after such a rude evening, I decided I was going to do that and try to prove everybody wrong.

00:42:18.860 They're going to listen to me whether they want to or not.

00:42:21.760 So I attempt to try to start the song.

00:42:27.920 I explained to them what I was going to do through the microphone before I stepped away from the microphone.

00:42:34.400 And I attempted to start the song.

00:42:38.360 As I got to where I started to sing, the volume had gone up and not down.

00:42:43.860 Now, mind you, there's no sound system anymore.

00:42:45.560 It's just me singing to the room.

00:42:47.480 So I stop.

00:42:50.160 I walk back around.

00:42:51.420 I go to the microphone.

00:42:52.760 I explain to everybody what I'm going to do again.

00:42:56.400 I start again.

00:42:58.680 Volume goes up.

00:43:01.540 So I go back to the microphone.

00:43:05.960 And I was like, you know, listen, I don't have to do this.

00:43:09.920 I was trying to do something.

00:43:11.480 And a lady that was standing right there in the front row, like four people from the center.

00:43:17.660 She's like, tell him to shut the fuck up in Spanish.

00:43:22.500 And I said, close to the microphone.

00:43:25.700 I wasn't necessarily talking into the mic.

00:43:27.660 I was talking to her, but it was close.

00:43:30.380 And I said, I'm sorry, ma'am.

00:43:33.640 I don't speak Spanish.

00:43:35.360 I'm American.

00:43:36.160 The world ended for like a week all over the, like broke the internet.

00:43:45.100 Aaron Lewis, a racist.

00:43:46.300 Aaron Lewis, this.

00:43:47.840 A racist.

00:43:49.380 Right.

00:43:50.020 Because I said, I'm sorry, ma'am.

00:43:52.280 I don't speak Spanish.

00:43:53.560 I am American.

00:43:55.000 That was what I said.

00:43:56.740 Beats me.

00:43:58.100 But that's what went around.

00:44:00.920 Perez Hilton did a hit piece on me about how much of a racist I am.

00:44:04.540 And put the video connected to it.

00:44:07.900 And if you watch the video, you see that the whole interview is, I mean, the whole piece is a complete bullshit and a complete fabrication of all of it.

00:44:17.040 And they would write these hit pieces and actually attach the video that completely contradicted the hit piece.

00:44:24.960 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:44:26.060 But it doesn't matter because people wouldn't actually, they just read.

00:44:29.060 Perez Hilton.

00:44:30.040 Boy, I haven't heard that name in a while.

00:44:31.420 Is he still alive?

00:44:32.300 I don't know.

00:44:33.820 Boy, that's.

00:44:34.280 I don't know.

00:44:34.460 Maybe the Vax got him.

00:44:35.500 I don't know.

00:44:36.260 Possible.

00:44:37.580 That's wild.

00:44:38.880 So you are a racist for saying.

00:44:41.260 That I don't speak Spanish.

00:44:42.280 I'm American.

00:44:43.200 When America, it says clearly in the books, in the naturalization process, that you have to have a full working knowledge of the English language before you can become a citizen in this country.

00:44:55.780 Yeah.

00:44:55.920 Well, you know, English is not a race.

00:45:00.240 The United States is not a race.

00:45:01.780 There's nothing about race in that sense or sentiment.

00:45:06.040 I know.

00:45:06.300 Right.

00:45:07.540 Yeah.

00:45:08.140 Oh, boy.

00:45:08.640 You just brought me back to an earlier time.

00:45:10.560 I don't think that would happen now.

00:45:12.620 I don't know.

00:45:13.440 People are so over that.

00:45:15.800 People are over it.

00:45:17.060 But I think that that side of things probably still would have tried.

00:45:21.280 Well, now they call you an anti-Semite.

00:45:23.000 Probably.

00:45:23.360 I'm any of the ists.

00:45:27.080 You're right.

00:45:28.440 Oh, wow.

00:45:28.980 That's wild.

00:45:29.620 So how did your manager and assorted handler's record label feel about this?

00:45:37.720 I mean, it was just one of those things where you just had to kind of let it go by.

00:45:43.700 Yeah.

00:45:44.020 Just let it die out.

00:45:45.480 Let it play its course and go away.

00:45:48.940 Was the crowd mad when you said that?

00:45:52.320 No.

00:45:53.360 Yeah.

00:45:54.300 Right.

00:45:55.420 No.

00:45:55.820 And then I tried one more time to sing the song and they wouldn't listen.

00:46:00.260 And I put my guitar down on the stage and walked off stage.

00:46:05.920 Ooh.

00:46:06.660 Hmm?

00:46:07.460 What'd you do?

00:46:07.940 I was already two plus hours into a show.

00:46:11.180 It's not like they were like, it's not like any of the show got taken away from them.

00:46:16.220 Right.

00:46:16.540 At all.

00:46:17.480 I was done.

00:46:18.920 I was just trying to do something special.

00:46:20.680 And, and they didn't want it.

00:46:23.900 So.

00:46:24.800 So did you ever have con like direct conflict with an employer over politics?

00:46:29.600 With an employer?

00:46:31.060 Yeah.

00:46:31.360 With the label.

00:46:31.820 I mean, my record label president, we've had some pretty heated discussions about politics.

00:46:43.480 And, and he, I mean, when you do the whole breakdown and you start talking really bare bones basics, there's a lot of things that he agrees with me on.

00:47:00.880 But when you bring all the rest of it in, we don't see eye to eye on much of anything.

00:47:07.200 Right.

00:47:07.960 I get that a lot.

00:47:10.560 Reasonable people, similar values actually, but they're just, they see themselves so differently and they're just committed to some weird partisan addiction.

00:47:20.220 It's almost like a feel good addiction, like a, like a, like it's a virtue signaling addiction that people seem to have.

00:47:33.840 That for some reason feel so guilty about their own life that they need to create these, these things to, to virtue signal and, and make themselves feel like a better person.

00:47:50.660 Because at the end of the day, how they present themselves and, and behave in life is, is, is unfulfilling for them.

00:48:04.560 So they somehow have to virtue signal to make them feel better about their unfulfilled lives.

00:48:12.020 It's, it's a very strange, strange thing.

00:48:14.980 I have found as a 53 year old man, looking at the people that are younger than me, that are going to take over this country when I'm gone, they just want to be a victim.

00:48:34.420 Like it's the craziest thing happening with, with, with our culture where all of our younger generation, there's more pride taken in being a victim than there is in getting over and getting through and moving past whatever it is that you were a victim of.

00:48:57.660 It's, it's, it's not pull your bootstraps up and, and, and, and stand up and, and keep moving forward anymore.

00:49:05.060 It's, it's lavish in the victimhood as long as possible.

00:49:11.140 And that just doesn't compute with me.

00:49:13.680 No.

00:49:14.280 Like I don't, that's not what I was taught at all.

00:49:17.980 At all.

00:49:18.800 At all.

00:49:20.020 You weren't encouraged to whine as a child?

00:49:23.900 No.

00:49:24.500 i wasn't either honestly if i was whining i don't think that my my voice was even acknowledged

00:49:34.360 of course not as it shouldn't be right do you feel guilty about growing up as rich as you did

00:49:40.720 going to hotchkiss and yale and all the advantages that you had i i grew up very much

00:49:50.700 like most in this country we were lower middle class at best i the first memories that i have

00:50:04.300 are living in a single wide trailer in a trailer park in castleton vermont charming place super

00:50:12.060 charming yeah it's not it's not the vermont of weekend getaways is it not so much it's not stowe

00:50:17.960 really um and my dad back in the 60s he bought a hunting camp up on the side of a mountain in

00:50:32.680 shrewsbury and he moved us from the trailer park to that hunting camp it's it's in the it's in the

00:50:41.500 song country board my my dad picked the place up for 1500 bucks back in 1964 he bought this

00:50:47.140 hunting camp on the side of a mountain for 1500 and he moved us into that hunting camp and by the time

00:50:56.120 we moved he sold that same place for 85 grand i think and that was what put us in a regular middle

00:51:09.880 class neighborhood at that point that was the up that he that he turned that 1500 investment into

00:51:18.860 80 something i've always wanted to live at my hunting camp i think that's the dream for a lot

00:51:24.220 of people i would just like to live in a hunting camp what was that like as good as as as a kid

00:51:28.960 yeah lonely i bet lonely i had to keep myself occupied for sure i was out in the middle of the woods

00:51:36.600 as a five-year-old kid what's your mom say what does a woman say when her husband moves her to a

00:51:42.960 hunting camp i don't think my mom minded i don't think my mom minded there was like she had the

00:51:47.840 garden out front and and they were always i mean my parents were kind of hippie-ish yeah that sounds i

00:51:55.960 mean my dad got arrested at the yankee nuclear power plant for protesting back in the day before

00:52:01.420 it was up and running yes was it i mean what was deer season like if you already live in the hunting

00:52:08.380 camp it wasn't there we would go to to wallingford and to danby and up where up where the family was

00:52:18.380 and the lewis farm was in danby and was you know half of the danby is almost like a almost like a

00:52:28.760 volcano like an inactive volcano where at the top of of uh the mountain there's a valley so it's like

00:52:37.680 an old like an ancient ancient volcano that at some point blew off but you would never know but

00:52:43.500 there's a valley on the top of the mountain and that was the valley that lewis the lewis farm was in

00:52:49.980 and it was like top 10 dairy farms and in vermont um and so the farm is where we would go and

00:53:04.800 everybody would gather up and we would do the classic drives and pushes and and all that stuff

00:53:13.140 and it was always rifle i didn't get into bow hunting until till later in life yeah well it

00:53:19.680 didn't there wasn't much of it not really not then no no i mean bows have really come a long way

00:53:26.760 since like the mid 80s to now i remember the first time i heard it i thought it was like one of the

00:53:34.040 not not bad i wasn't against it but i was like wow you kill a deer with a bow

00:53:38.020 like hiawatha like that was wild huh you still hunting fish i do all the time i'm so

00:53:47.480 completely ate up with upland bird hunting and and i'm from new england so i had never hunt quail

00:53:57.240 before and i earlier this year went on my first quail hunt and oh my god that was it for me

00:54:04.440 really that was it for me like i have gone i i went probably 15 times since i found found quail

00:54:15.300 hunting and and i hunted all the way up until the last day of the season in florida is april 15th

00:54:22.160 15th or 20th maybe or somewhere around there and literally hunted all the way through to the last day

00:54:27.700 and uh what do you like about it everything the tradition the tradition is the biggest thing for

00:54:37.560 me like i'm i'm all about it i'm i'm hunting with with a gun that you know should be in a museum or in

00:54:47.080 somebody's private collection and and i those are my hunting guns um what do you hunt with

00:54:53.780 i'm a big 410 guy i love the 410 it's the smallest of the shotgun gauges it is the smallest of the

00:55:01.900 shotgun gauges it is the most gentlemanly if you will um and but i'll be out there in full

00:55:13.460 filson regalia and and and looking like i just came out of a out of a safari or something and

00:55:22.300 and i'm all about it i'm i i i respect the tradition of it um the camaraderie the dogs

00:55:34.500 oh my god i love watching the dogs work they're unbelievable watching a dog slam into a point like

00:55:41.540 that like like somebody just shot him with electricity just it's amazing it is amazing it is amazing it is

00:55:50.340 amazing that that that's that's almost as enjoyable as the actual flush and the shot

00:55:59.540 is actually watching the dogs i totally agree with that that's that's half three quarters of the

00:56:07.400 enjoyment is experiencing that whole thing with with the dogs and how amazingly trained they are

00:56:14.300 i mean just how does a dog know to do that i don't know it's amazing it's latent i mean i think

00:56:21.060 it's in the dog your job is to bring it out it's instinctual and then you got to bring it out that's

00:56:25.580 it it's amazing can you hit a quail with a 410 almost every time really yes sir you're doing 180 shows a

00:56:35.920 year how'd you get to be such a good shot um i had a i i was hunting with my dad bird hunting for

00:56:50.620 roughed grouse and and woodcock just like you love so much um at seven eight yep i think i got my first

00:57:02.700 double for woodcocks at 10 or 11 got my first double on grouse at like 12 or 13 wow i've never

00:57:14.460 done that the grouse one was like it couldn't have been more perfect three grouse all went up at the

00:57:21.040 same time and they all flew straight away from me i probably could have got a triple if i was using a

00:57:26.520 semi-auto and if you had another barrel so for people who don't i mean i'm sure we're gonna lose

00:57:32.300 an audience uh point here but for people who don't know what new england grouse hunting is can you

00:57:37.500 describe it um a grouse is a big woodland bird about the size of a chicken about the size of a chicken

00:57:46.800 and they they they strut like a turkey does yeah um and they they're one of the most beautiful birds

00:58:00.480 and they're one of the hardest yes they're as fast as an f15 and you literally have

00:58:11.480 if you get two seconds as a window of opportunity for that shot that's a lot that's a lot yeah that's

00:58:20.660 a lot they they go off and it's like and they're gone you literally have that much

00:58:27.260 and they're gone and the noise i'm making is what it sounds like when they take off from their bird from

00:58:33.880 their wings hitting their body and it'll it will stop your heart like yeah and they're no pen raised

00:58:43.000 rough grouse i mean they're just all wild birds 100 and they're as wild as wild gets and for you to go

00:58:51.840 out and have a successful day of roughed grouse hunting or partridge as they're also called yeah

00:58:58.120 um you've you've accomplished something that's for sure you you you get a limit and you're actually

00:59:05.420 done for the day and can't keep hunting for the day with roughed grouse you are you have accomplished

00:59:10.720 something if you're doing it on foot i i've never done that but um never limited out on grouse but

00:59:16.940 like how many how far per bird do you think you walk and grow something miles miles unless you

00:59:22.880 unless you have found a a thick population you will cover some ground and you will put in

00:59:30.180 a lot of work it's probably why i like quail hunting you get older because i'm i'm i'm 53 i i don't

00:59:40.840 necessarily want to walk into a piece of woods that is up and down and the thickest they of course they

00:59:50.060 live in the thickest crap oh yeah so you're really really really really putting in a lot of effort

00:59:57.360 to possibly put up one bird where with quail hunting if you go to a plantation where that's their deal is

01:00:08.580 quail hunting with a nice leisurely stroll nice leisurely gentlemanly stroll through the woods

01:00:16.920 you can put up 100 birds instead of possibly one yeah in that sense the the the hot and heavy action

01:00:28.880 is what kind of keeps makes the the quail hunting thing kind of at the top yeah if you will

01:00:37.800 quail hunting is a rich man sport rough grouse hunting in new england is a poor man sport

01:00:45.780 quail hunting is a rich man sport because of the fact that the majority of the quail hunting that you

01:00:55.140 can do at this point in in our in our society and in our growth as a country everything else

01:01:04.380 it's it's really hard to actually find wild quail to begin with yes so what you're hunting is a

01:01:15.640 put and take situation so there's an overhead to it yeah and you you're paying anywhere from

01:01:26.980 a thousand to astronomical prices to go and hunt this place yep some places are are insane and so

01:01:37.280 exclusive and so private that even if you had the the ridiculous amount of money to pay you can't

01:01:44.180 um but yes yes it's a it is a a rich man sport in the sense that it's hard to go do it on your your

01:01:58.260 own time with no dime for sure you you gotta go to a place that for the most part you gotta go to a

01:02:05.780 place that it charges you because there's a massive overhead for the cost of the birds and the cost of

01:02:11.720 everything so um if you know musician if you had to pair a musician with these two kinds of up on

01:02:21.200 bird hunting you'd say bruce springsteen who's the representative of america's working man oh yeah

01:02:28.700 totally would be a grouse such a like i i would put him as my representation any day do you know bruce

01:02:35.420 springsteen no thankfully what do you think of him um i think that that he is a a disgusting display

01:02:47.900 of not appreciating what was handed to him for as in this country as being an american the success

01:03:00.620 that he has had

01:03:02.580 i the fact that he duped us all with one of the most anti-american songs ever and called it born in

01:03:16.580 the usa as some sort of celebration of how great it is to be born in the usa

01:03:22.760 i i'm angry at myself for not seeing it for so long and actually giving him in my mind

01:03:34.760 the credit of being a representation of blue collar america

01:03:40.740 i think that he has forgotten where he came from yeah i think that if you're not careful

01:03:54.460 doing this this career that that me and him have both been so blessed to have had if you're not careful

01:04:03.900 it will consume you and and it's obvious that it creates a situation where you've lost sight

01:04:14.980 of the reality of the country that you live in because you've you've lived such a

01:04:25.360 kush um you've had so much you have so much that it's really easy to take a stance that is so

01:04:45.680 anti-everything that that you that you were lucky enough to have lucky enough to create

01:04:57.000 lucky enough to to be to change your your situation in life

01:05:06.640 and he's just lost touch with the struggles he's lost touch with the struggle

01:05:15.840 and it seems like

01:05:20.320 most people who have lost touch with the true struggle of life

01:05:26.680 those are the people that vote for these fucking idiots

01:05:32.120 those are the people that feel like they have to virtue signal though those are the people that

01:05:39.280 somewhere along the way they

01:05:44.300 feel guilty for the success that they have had so they somehow have to

01:05:51.040 make it up with this

01:05:53.600 nonsensical bullshit that

01:05:57.140 like you grew up at the same time dream i did

01:06:01.740 it was the most unracially driven

01:06:06.360 the the the the

01:06:10.020 the verbal beating that we took over and over and over our whole childhood of

01:06:17.420 you don't judge a man by the color of his skin you judge a man by the content of his character and

01:06:24.560 and like

01:06:29.180 it was the best that our country has ever been

01:06:36.500 and i think that that didn't work well for the democrats and the communists

01:06:42.820 why

01:06:43.720 because they thrive in the chaos they

01:06:47.440 they want us

01:06:48.600 at each other's throats they want us

01:06:51.140 bickering

01:06:52.260 internally

01:06:53.480 so that

01:06:55.360 we have no

01:06:57.100 sense of

01:06:58.900 of

01:07:00.440 shared country pride that we have no sense of

01:07:03.720 of shared

01:07:05.140 morality because they've

01:07:07.820 created so many things

01:07:10.760 artificially

01:07:13.500 for us to fight about

01:07:14.600 i mean

01:07:16.940 there is no doubt in my mind

01:07:20.260 at this point

01:07:21.240 it's not coincidental

01:07:23.980 it's purposeful

01:07:25.580 like

01:07:26.020 there is definitely a

01:07:28.380 a

01:07:29.500 a power center

01:07:31.160 in this

01:07:32.440 world

01:07:33.820 that definitely does not

01:07:36.920 want to see us as the

01:07:38.720 the shining light on the hill

01:07:40.740 no

01:07:41.320 no

01:07:41.660 at all

01:07:42.500 they're against

01:07:43.200 peace and prosperity and

01:07:45.080 because there's no money in it

01:07:46.260 self-sufficiency and god

01:07:47.680 um

01:07:48.400 yeah

01:07:48.800 no i i couldn't

01:07:50.260 there's no money in it

01:07:51.160 if we're all

01:07:52.300 you know how can they exploit us if we're all

01:07:54.620 united and getting along

01:07:56.280 when we're all looking out for each other as human beings

01:07:59.900 how can they exploit us

01:08:01.100 they can't so they have to they have to keep us

01:08:04.740 in a constant state of conflict

01:08:07.320 when did you start to realize this

01:08:10.040 as i got old enough to be

01:08:18.260 carrying the weight of that responsibility on my shoulders

01:08:22.680 yes

01:08:23.280 like knowing full well that okay it's my turn now

01:08:26.520 i

01:08:27.460 have assumed the responsibility which we are all supposed to do

01:08:31.840 that

01:08:32.920 the country is in my hands

01:08:35.600 it was in my father's hands before that

01:08:38.440 it was in my grandfather's hands before that

01:08:40.780 and as

01:08:42.500 as our

01:08:43.700 as our generations grow

01:08:46.160 and get older

01:08:47.400 each generation it's now their turn

01:08:50.420 to become and take over as the stewards

01:08:53.300 of this amazing beautiful country

01:08:56.620 and

01:09:00.300 we forgot about that for a little bit

01:09:03.820 and we haven't been doing that over the probably the past

01:09:06.540 30 years

01:09:08.200 and

01:09:10.740 that's not okay with me

01:09:13.700 like

01:09:14.140 it is my responsibility

01:09:16.040 now

01:09:17.440 as a father

01:09:18.720 and a proud patriot

01:09:20.600 it's my responsibility now

01:09:23.940 to make sure that

01:09:25.140 what i

01:09:26.420 hand over to the next generation behind me

01:09:30.140 is better than i found it

01:09:33.060 because that's

01:09:33.920 that's what we're supposed to do

01:09:35.860 that's

01:09:36.280 that's what we were taught our whole lives

01:09:38.540 you walk into the woods

01:09:40.220 you leave it cleaner than you found it

01:09:42.320 you find one piece of trash

01:09:43.800 it doesn't even matter

01:09:44.620 one piece of trash

01:09:46.160 and you pick it up

01:09:46.800 and you put it in your pocket

01:09:47.760 you have left that better than you found it

01:09:49.980 and

01:09:50.980 our generation

01:09:53.660 that's what was

01:09:55.260 instilled in us

01:09:56.620 beaten into us

01:09:57.700 that's for sure

01:09:58.280 yeah that's

01:10:01.200 that's the moral imperative

01:10:02.540 i come from the generation of

01:10:04.120 of still

01:10:05.280 it's probably the last generation of

01:10:07.260 as a kid

01:10:08.720 now

01:10:09.380 did it fuck me up

01:10:10.700 and and make me feel like

01:10:12.600 my my voice doesn't get heard

01:10:15.020 and and i like i

01:10:16.020 and like a

01:10:17.280 an incessant thing for me

01:10:19.300 is to be heard

01:10:20.040 because i didn't feel like

01:10:21.520 my voice was heard

01:10:22.300 as a kid at all

01:10:23.160 because i was like

01:10:24.180 the last generation of

01:10:25.280 kids that are

01:10:26.200 kids are to speak

01:10:27.180 when they're spoken to

01:10:28.400 and that's it

01:10:29.900 like that's

01:10:30.320 i got that from my grandparents

01:10:31.480 like children are only to speak

01:10:34.060 when they're spoken to

01:10:35.460 that's fair

01:10:35.960 and children are to be seen

01:10:37.200 and not heard

01:10:37.920 also fair

01:10:40.940 unless they have something

01:10:43.320 interesting to say

01:10:44.020 sure

01:10:44.400 yeah

01:10:45.000 but if you don't

01:10:45.960 i think in general

01:10:46.740 if you don't have something

01:10:47.400 interesting to say

01:10:48.120 i think that all

01:10:49.040 that all supports

01:10:51.320 the whole thing

01:10:52.440 of

01:10:52.940 because i said so

01:10:55.340 it doesn't

01:10:57.280 i don't have to give you

01:10:58.500 a reason

01:10:59.100 as my child

01:11:00.360 as to why

01:11:02.020 like

01:11:03.960 because i said so

01:11:05.700 there's a huge lesson

01:11:08.380 with that

01:11:09.780 in life

01:11:11.040 your boss

01:11:12.980 isn't going to explain to you

01:11:15.200 why you have to do something

01:11:16.460 he's going to tell you

01:11:17.300 to do something

01:11:18.060 and you need to just

01:11:19.280 do it

01:11:20.080 there's going to be

01:11:21.160 situations in life

01:11:22.460 where

01:11:23.280 if somebody tells you

01:11:24.640 to do something

01:11:25.240 and you hesitate

01:11:26.180 and don't do it

01:11:27.460 your life could be in danger

01:11:29.460 there's

01:11:29.800 there

01:11:30.480 it's just a

01:11:31.860 it's a lost art form

01:11:35.460 it's a lost art form

01:11:37.220 parenting

01:11:38.060 is a lost art form

01:11:40.280 i said that

01:11:41.660 all the way back

01:11:42.240 in 2001

01:11:43.040 on the cover

01:11:43.700 of rolling stone

01:11:44.520 parents have forgotten

01:11:46.160 how to be parents

01:11:47.140 like i realized that

01:11:49.980 all the way back then

01:11:51.360 and it's only gotten worse

01:11:53.600 yeah

01:11:54.100 the the average

01:11:56.780 kid these days

01:11:57.980 the biggest

01:11:59.260 parental figure

01:12:00.380 in their life

01:12:01.140 is their computer

01:12:02.020 or their phone

01:12:04.000 it's not their parent

01:12:06.300 yeah

01:12:06.980 it's the internet

01:12:07.840 it's insane

01:12:09.200 we are

01:12:11.020 knowingly

01:12:12.860 and willingly

01:12:14.400 flushing everything

01:12:16.620 down the toilet

01:12:17.380 out of convenience

01:12:18.440 it's so convenient

01:12:20.860 to have this

01:12:21.640 fully operating

01:12:23.160 computer

01:12:23.760 in my hand

01:12:24.540 at all times

01:12:25.580 it's so convenient

01:12:26.880 every

01:12:30.800 important

01:12:32.620 piece

01:12:33.920 of thread

01:12:34.960 that makes up

01:12:36.060 the fabric

01:12:36.740 of this country

01:12:37.800 is being

01:12:39.580 picked out

01:12:40.820 one

01:12:41.900 at a time

01:12:42.900 and it's gonna

01:12:45.120 leave us

01:12:45.680 with this empty shell

01:12:46.900 that

01:12:48.460 nobody knows

01:12:50.580 what to do

01:12:51.000 with it now

01:12:51.620 because we've

01:12:53.200 already

01:12:54.480 discarded

01:12:55.280 and thrown

01:12:55.840 away

01:12:56.220 everything

01:12:56.940 that

01:12:57.360 kept us

01:12:58.400 on a

01:12:58.840 on a path

01:13:00.180 on a good

01:13:00.800 path in life

01:13:01.700 feels like

01:13:02.360 new people

01:13:02.980 will rebuild

01:13:03.640 a new

01:13:04.540 and different

01:13:04.960 society

01:13:05.620 in place

01:13:06.680 of the

01:13:07.220 Americans

01:13:08.700 who were here

01:13:09.180 when you and I

01:13:09.680 were born

01:13:10.040 and that's scary

01:13:11.880 oh i know

01:13:12.700 that's scary

01:13:14.200 if we hand

01:13:16.540 this country

01:13:17.100 off

01:13:17.560 as the

01:13:18.500 stewards

01:13:19.120 of today

01:13:19.880 if we hand

01:13:21.540 this country

01:13:22.000 off to the

01:13:22.600 younger generation

01:13:23.440 without fixing

01:13:25.180 it first

01:13:25.760 and they're

01:13:27.580 able to do

01:13:28.420 what they've

01:13:29.380 been taught

01:13:30.180 to do

01:13:30.640 this country

01:13:33.120 will cease

01:13:33.480 to exist

01:13:34.080 certainly

01:13:35.680 will not

01:13:36.480 be the

01:13:37.220 shining light

01:13:37.720 on the hill

01:13:38.120 anymore

01:13:38.480 i don't know

01:13:41.000 that it is

01:13:41.680 already

01:13:42.140 i mean

01:13:42.980 the

01:13:43.360 the

01:13:44.160 the

01:13:44.900 love

01:13:45.900 and want

01:13:46.460 and desire

01:13:47.180 for this

01:13:47.780 country

01:13:48.120 to go

01:13:48.520 back

01:13:48.960 to

01:13:49.440 where it

01:13:51.220 was

01:13:51.760 for a lot

01:13:52.340 of people

01:13:52.840 is still

01:13:53.740 strong

01:13:54.200 but i don't

01:13:56.220 know if we

01:13:56.740 have the

01:13:57.140 wherewithal

01:13:57.780 as a society

01:13:59.880 as an entire

01:14:00.740 country

01:14:01.280 to pull our

01:14:03.220 heads out of

01:14:03.740 our asses

01:14:04.280 long enough

01:14:04.700 to fix it

01:14:05.340 it's scary

01:14:10.680 i'm scared

01:14:11.960 i'm scared

01:14:12.780 for my

01:14:13.240 kids

01:14:13.620 i i

01:14:15.280 lose sleep

01:14:16.400 over what

01:14:18.320 this country

01:14:18.940 is going

01:14:19.400 to be

01:14:19.860 for

01:14:20.240 good lord

01:14:21.820 my grandkids

01:14:22.680 it's bad

01:14:24.680 enough for

01:14:25.420 my kids

01:14:25.980 yes

01:14:26.500 but another

01:14:27.540 generation

01:14:28.280 my grandkids

01:14:29.220 if this

01:14:30.920 doesn't

01:14:31.580 if this ship

01:14:32.760 doesn't get

01:14:33.260 righted

01:14:33.720 what are they

01:14:35.360 even gonna

01:14:35.780 have

01:14:36.320 is their

01:14:38.460 life gonna

01:14:38.920 even have

01:14:39.480 the

01:14:39.720 even the

01:14:40.640 slightest

01:14:40.980 semblance

01:14:41.800 of what

01:14:42.740 our lives

01:14:43.160 were

01:14:43.480 do our

01:14:45.540 kids now

01:14:46.340 is their

01:14:47.400 life even

01:14:48.040 the slightest

01:14:48.840 semblance

01:14:49.400 of what

01:14:49.840 me and you

01:14:50.400 had as

01:14:50.740 kids

01:14:51.040 no fucking

01:14:52.540 way

01:14:52.940 how's it

01:14:54.540 different

01:14:54.820 you've got

01:14:55.640 three kids

01:14:56.120 we were

01:14:56.540 latchkey kids

01:14:57.280 you didn't

01:14:57.540 even have

01:14:57.780 to lock

01:14:58.120 your door

01:14:58.620 like you

01:15:01.080 came home

01:15:01.620 and and

01:15:02.620 and so

01:15:04.220 many parents

01:15:04.720 weren't even

01:15:05.100 there

01:15:05.420 and there

01:15:08.000 was no

01:15:08.360 worry

01:15:08.800 like

01:15:09.920 i never

01:15:11.460 had a key

01:15:11.780 to my

01:15:12.020 house

01:15:12.280 i don't

01:15:13.100 have a key

01:15:13.360 to my

01:15:13.560 house now

01:15:13.980 actually

01:15:14.520 because of

01:15:16.440 where you

01:15:16.760 live

01:15:16.960 yeah well

01:15:17.500 right

01:15:17.840 no that's

01:15:18.660 right

01:15:18.820 and i love

01:15:19.300 it out

01:15:19.600 here

01:15:19.840 this is

01:15:20.620 like

01:15:20.940 no i

01:15:22.100 agree

01:15:22.380 no but

01:15:22.960 you're

01:15:23.400 you're

01:15:23.760 right

01:15:24.060 i mean

01:15:24.600 the feeling

01:15:25.240 of safety

01:15:25.920 um

01:15:27.600 what was

01:15:29.020 kind of

01:15:29.320 unquestioned

01:15:29.940 the feeling

01:15:30.980 of trust

01:15:32.620 just overall

01:15:34.200 trust of

01:15:34.900 your fellow

01:15:35.320 man

01:15:35.780 there's

01:15:37.880 not

01:15:38.160 there's

01:15:38.540 that's

01:15:39.200 that's

01:15:41.340 instinct

01:15:41.800 it's

01:15:42.180 it's

01:15:42.760 it's

01:15:46.740 it's

01:15:47.580 extinct

01:15:48.100 it doesn't

01:15:49.540 it doesn't

01:15:50.200 really exist

01:15:51.660 anymore

01:15:52.120 so you travel

01:15:53.540 by vehicle

01:15:54.220 by bus

01:15:54.620 through america

01:15:55.320 i don't

01:15:56.920 like to

01:15:57.380 fly

01:15:57.680 i literally

01:15:58.660 have not

01:15:59.740 flown

01:16:00.180 on a

01:16:01.100 commercial

01:16:01.480 plane

01:16:02.020 since

01:16:02.780 everything

01:16:03.240 shut down

01:16:03.820 for covid

01:16:04.340 wow

01:16:05.740 good for

01:16:07.260 you

01:16:07.560 um

01:16:08.220 i will

01:16:09.240 i drive

01:16:10.020 everywhere

01:16:10.800 unless i

01:16:13.700 absolutely

01:16:14.380 have to

01:16:15.400 fly

01:16:15.800 and then

01:16:17.580 i am

01:16:18.560 guilty

01:16:18.920 i won't

01:16:20.640 fly

01:16:20.920 commercial

01:16:21.380 but

01:16:22.860 once

01:16:23.900 maybe twice

01:16:24.600 a year

01:16:25.040 when i

01:16:25.420 absolutely

01:16:25.980 have to

01:16:26.640 fly

01:16:26.960 i will

01:16:29.040 i will

01:16:30.460 be bougie

01:16:31.560 and

01:16:32.240 get a plane

01:16:33.100 get a plane

01:16:33.720 but because

01:16:35.740 you're

01:16:36.480 traveling

01:16:37.440 overland

01:16:38.920 the majority

01:16:40.300 of the year

01:16:41.160 i see what

01:16:42.320 this country

01:16:42.840 is

01:16:43.120 exactly

01:16:43.540 so that's

01:16:44.300 what do you

01:16:44.960 see

01:16:45.320 and you've

01:16:45.980 been doing

01:16:46.220 this for

01:16:46.560 what 30

01:16:46.960 years

01:16:47.260 you've been

01:16:47.580 on the

01:16:47.820 road

01:16:48.020 across

01:16:48.420 america

01:16:48.880 i have

01:16:49.560 watched

01:16:50.300 the fly

01:16:51.880 over

01:16:52.160 states

01:16:52.700 just

01:16:54.540 crumble

01:16:55.900 you go

01:16:57.940 into a

01:16:58.380 small town

01:16:59.260 half the

01:17:00.920 businesses

01:17:01.580 are boarded

01:17:02.360 up

01:17:02.660 you know

01:17:04.640 those small

01:17:05.560 classic

01:17:06.940 what you

01:17:07.740 would think

01:17:08.380 of as

01:17:08.980 americana

01:17:09.840 those norman

01:17:11.300 rockwell

01:17:11.920 towns

01:17:13.320 they're all

01:17:14.980 boarded up

01:17:15.580 there's nobody

01:17:16.620 downtown

01:17:17.200 there's no

01:17:18.840 commerce

01:17:20.440 there's

01:17:21.980 there's

01:17:22.940 there's a

01:17:24.500 dollar general

01:17:25.160 down the

01:17:25.720 street

01:17:26.020 yeah

01:17:26.660 there's a

01:17:27.220 walmart

01:17:27.600 ten minutes

01:17:28.160 away

01:17:28.520 but every

01:17:29.480 mom and

01:17:29.880 pop

01:17:30.220 shop

01:17:31.680 is all

01:17:32.400 gone

01:17:32.900 family

01:17:34.480 businesses

01:17:35.000 that have

01:17:35.660 that have

01:17:36.360 provided for

01:17:37.440 that family

01:17:38.640 and provided

01:17:39.540 for the

01:17:40.040 town

01:17:40.740 with the

01:17:41.260 business

01:17:41.560 that they

01:17:41.940 provide

01:17:42.420 it's all

01:17:43.620 gone

01:17:43.860 everywhere

01:17:45.660 pretty much

01:17:46.500 pretty much

01:17:48.500 what are

01:17:51.740 the you

01:17:52.220 you play in

01:17:52.880 every region

01:17:53.480 of the

01:17:53.720 country

01:17:54.060 yeah

01:17:54.380 what are

01:17:56.060 the toughest

01:17:56.420 parts of

01:17:56.900 the country

01:17:57.260 right now

01:17:57.720 rural

01:18:00.460 yeah

01:18:01.440 rural

01:18:02.840 second you

01:18:04.840 leave the

01:18:05.120 cities

01:18:05.440 and that

01:18:07.920 was

01:18:08.080 and it's

01:18:08.480 in and

01:18:09.400 it's

01:18:09.820 undeniable

01:18:10.740 visually

01:18:11.800 right there

01:18:12.800 in front

01:18:13.180 of your

01:18:13.500 face

01:18:13.920 you have

01:18:14.340 to close

01:18:14.840 your eyes

01:18:15.760 to not

01:18:16.380 see it

01:18:16.820 so why

01:18:18.480 does no

01:18:18.700 one ever

01:18:18.960 mention

01:18:19.280 that

01:18:19.660 i never

01:18:21.020 i every

01:18:22.200 u.s.

01:18:22.800 senator i

01:18:23.340 know i

01:18:23.660 know all

01:18:23.920 the republicans

01:18:24.700 i mean

01:18:25.000 they're very

01:18:25.880 upset about

01:18:26.560 iran

01:18:27.280 or ukraine

01:18:28.880 but i don't

01:18:29.660 ever hear

01:18:30.160 them mention

01:18:30.880 their own

01:18:32.220 states

01:18:32.800 outside the

01:18:33.540 cities

01:18:33.900 i know

01:18:34.880 it's disgusting

01:18:35.440 and these

01:18:35.980 are supposed

01:18:36.280 to be the

01:18:36.700 people that

01:18:37.140 are the

01:18:38.040 representatives

01:18:38.620 of that

01:18:39.500 area

01:18:40.220 you wonder

01:18:40.680 has tom

01:18:41.060 cotton ever

01:18:41.540 been to the

01:18:42.380 delta in

01:18:43.040 arkansas

01:18:43.540 like when

01:18:45.200 was the

01:18:45.420 last

01:18:45.540 seriously

01:18:46.200 when was

01:18:46.640 the last

01:18:46.780 time he

01:18:47.000 was in

01:18:47.240 eldorado

01:18:47.680 arkansas

01:18:48.140 right

01:18:48.600 and i've

01:18:50.660 been through

01:18:51.320 all of

01:18:51.700 arkansas

01:18:52.160 and it's

01:18:55.200 it's

01:18:56.620 poverty

01:18:57.640 stricken and

01:18:58.320 falling apart

01:18:59.580 and

01:18:59.920 and that's

01:19:01.860 anywhere

01:19:02.680 tennessee

01:19:03.740 i know

01:19:04.300 like anywhere

01:19:05.540 i know

01:19:06.160 30 years ago

01:19:06.960 40 years ago

01:19:07.740 pine bluff arkansas

01:19:08.600 was a real town

01:19:09.440 and now

01:19:12.300 you know

01:19:12.700 it's one of

01:19:13.080 the most

01:19:13.240 dangerous

01:19:13.500 places in

01:19:14.060 the country

01:19:14.440 i just

01:19:16.360 wonder like

01:19:16.940 what do

01:19:17.440 they think

01:19:18.060 i don't

01:19:19.380 know and

01:19:20.000 i don't

01:19:20.240 understand

01:19:20.780 why

01:19:21.300 their

01:19:24.000 policies

01:19:24.580 never

01:19:25.020 work

01:19:25.660 like they

01:19:27.820 never

01:19:28.360 ever work

01:19:29.440 i don't

01:19:29.760 know of

01:19:30.120 a single

01:19:30.960 communist

01:19:33.200 policy

01:19:34.280 that has

01:19:36.700 actually

01:19:37.560 done

01:19:39.720 good

01:19:40.340 for

01:19:41.440 whoever

01:19:41.860 it

01:19:42.140 was

01:19:42.540 that

01:19:42.740 the

01:19:42.880 policy

01:19:43.320 was

01:19:43.880 designed

01:19:45.920 for

01:19:46.360 none of

01:19:48.760 them

01:19:48.940 right

01:19:49.280 it's only

01:19:49.700 about

01:19:49.940 destruction

01:19:50.420 it is

01:19:51.260 it's only

01:19:51.680 about

01:19:51.940 destruction

01:19:52.440 well here's

01:19:53.200 a story

01:19:53.420 you probably

01:19:53.700 haven't heard

01:19:54.000 a lot

01:19:54.200 about

01:19:54.540 the chinese

01:19:55.260 mafia

01:19:55.940 is exploiting

01:19:56.980 rural america

01:19:58.200 to create

01:19:58.680 a drug

01:19:59.340 empire

01:20:00.040 this is not

01:20:01.120 available on

01:20:02.320 cable news

01:20:03.140 the network's not

01:20:03.980 telling you about

01:20:04.440 this but it's

01:20:04.780 totally real

01:20:05.420 communist

01:20:06.000 affiliated drug

01:20:06.900 gangs destroying

01:20:07.660 parts of the

01:20:08.320 united states

01:20:09.040 the parts that

01:20:09.860 washington ignores

01:20:10.980 to sell

01:20:12.180 drugs

01:20:12.920 laundering money

01:20:13.880 and building a

01:20:14.500 black market

01:20:15.220 network

01:20:15.780 inside this

01:20:17.160 country's

01:20:17.660 most beautiful

01:20:18.920 but least

01:20:20.320 served

01:20:21.100 areas we've got a

01:20:22.100 brand new

01:20:22.440 documentary on

01:20:23.200 this it's called

01:20:24.080 high crimes the

01:20:25.100 chinese mafia

01:20:25.780 takeover of

01:20:27.000 rural america

01:20:27.680 it's available now

01:20:28.960 on tucker

01:20:29.400 carlson.com

01:20:30.420 it's excellent

01:20:31.420 the purchase of

01:20:32.620 churches and

01:20:33.280 schools to aid

01:20:34.360 the operation

01:20:34.980 the jerry

01:20:35.580 rigging of

01:20:36.100 power boxes to

01:20:36.960 steal electricity

01:20:38.200 foreign pesticides

01:20:39.600 collusion with the

01:20:40.440 mexican cartels

01:20:41.100 it's it's

01:20:41.680 unbelievable

01:20:42.460 by the way one of

01:20:43.380 the drug houses is

01:20:44.140 like walking

01:20:44.660 distance from my

01:20:45.360 house i didn't

01:20:46.580 know that it's a

01:20:47.360 layered and

01:20:48.160 fascinating story

01:20:49.060 head to

01:20:49.700 tucker carlson.com

01:20:50.980 to watch now

01:20:51.720 we think you'll

01:20:52.560 love it

01:20:53.080 so here's uh

01:20:58.300 here's one of my

01:21:00.700 favorite quotes

01:21:01.420 my favorite

01:21:02.120 aaron lewis

01:21:02.560 quotes

01:21:02.940 my book of

01:21:04.360 aaron lewis

01:21:04.760 quotes

01:21:05.060 um

01:21:06.200 you know

01:21:06.720 everyone want

01:21:07.140 you know

01:21:07.360 everyone in

01:21:07.760 music is like

01:21:08.400 an outlaw

01:21:09.020 i'm a rebel

01:21:09.580 and they all

01:21:11.040 say the same

01:21:11.520 thing and they

01:21:12.380 all mouth the

01:21:12.940 same pieties

01:21:13.600 read the same

01:21:14.260 stupid bumper

01:21:14.900 stickers

01:21:15.340 kiss ass to

01:21:16.620 the same

01:21:16.920 powerful people

01:21:17.580 um so this

01:21:19.140 this actually is

01:21:19.760 kind of an

01:21:20.080 outlaw thing to

01:21:20.620 say and here's

01:21:21.040 what you said

01:21:21.460 in 2022

01:21:22.360 and i'm quoting

01:21:24.360 you you know

01:21:25.380 as fucked up as

01:21:25.980 it sounds

01:21:26.440 maybe we should

01:21:27.560 listen to what

01:21:28.060 vladimir putin is

01:21:29.080 saying

01:21:29.440 i got i got so

01:21:31.960 i got in so much

01:21:32.840 trouble for that

01:21:33.500 and i can let me i

01:21:34.320 will continue to

01:21:35.020 quote you back to

01:21:35.660 you maybe when

01:21:36.760 klaus schwab and

01:21:37.680 george soros and

01:21:38.500 every other earth

01:21:39.260 destroying mf are

01:21:40.460 all jump on the

01:21:41.280 same bandwagon maybe

01:21:42.780 just maybe we should

01:21:43.540 take a good look at

01:21:44.360 that why are they

01:21:45.720 trying to protect

01:21:46.440 ukraine so much

01:21:47.640 what do they all

01:21:48.640 have to lose

01:21:49.780 so i would think

01:21:51.720 like in a

01:21:52.440 in a country with

01:21:54.880 creative people a

01:21:55.760 free country that

01:21:56.620 you would be one of

01:21:57.260 many people asking

01:21:58.440 the single most

01:21:59.720 obvious questions

01:22:00.580 why can't we

01:22:01.060 listen to what the

01:22:02.400 other side is

01:22:02.940 saying and why

01:22:04.000 are all these

01:22:04.700 people who were

01:22:05.480 pretty obviously

01:22:06.200 bad also vested

01:22:08.060 in this one far

01:22:08.920 away country like

01:22:09.600 what do they have

01:22:10.220 to lose i mean

01:22:11.900 first of all bless

01:22:12.660 you for saying

01:22:13.160 that um second

01:22:15.120 did anyone ever

01:22:15.780 answer your

01:22:16.220 question um nope

01:22:19.200 nope um i lost

01:22:22.200 employees employees

01:22:24.280 oh yeah people

01:22:26.740 people that not

01:22:27.920 direct employees in

01:22:29.360 my like in my

01:22:30.620 knit circle yeah

01:22:31.920 but external

01:22:33.360 employees people

01:22:34.620 that worked for me

01:22:35.680 in in different

01:22:37.180 areas that wouldn't

01:22:38.460 that that wanted

01:22:39.360 nothing to do with

01:22:40.120 it anymore it's

01:22:41.640 it's a it's a

01:22:42.500 funny story and

01:22:43.280 you're part of

01:22:43.900 it the reason i

01:22:45.560 said that is

01:22:47.040 because i had

01:22:47.560 literally just

01:22:48.700 watched your show

01:22:49.760 oh gosh and

01:22:51.180 you were the one

01:22:52.640 to say hmm

01:22:53.880 maybe we should

01:22:55.160 have maybe we

01:22:56.140 should listen to

01:22:56.820 putin and see

01:22:57.380 what he has to

01:22:57.980 say and i was

01:22:59.120 like well if

01:23:00.540 tucker has said

01:23:01.380 it on fox how

01:23:03.940 that worked out

01:23:04.500 for me it worked

01:23:06.360 out for both of

01:23:07.160 us the same way

01:23:07.980 and i agree it

01:23:09.440 worked out for

01:23:10.020 both of us the

01:23:10.700 same way it it

01:23:12.320 it took weeks

01:23:13.220 for that one to

01:23:13.860 go away

01:23:14.300 really oh

01:23:15.880 yeah but i

01:23:16.760 just i i'm not

01:23:17.920 an artist i'm

01:23:18.740 i'm a guy who

01:23:20.300 gives his opinions

01:23:21.260 on youtube but

01:23:22.000 i appreciate

01:23:24.060 artists which

01:23:25.640 is to say people

01:23:26.440 whose whole job

01:23:27.280 is to pursue the

01:23:28.220 truth you know

01:23:29.240 whether they get

01:23:29.620 there or not but

01:23:30.360 i mean that's

01:23:31.060 their job and

01:23:32.540 every society

01:23:33.120 carves out room

01:23:34.000 for them to do

01:23:34.800 that and a

01:23:35.920 healthy society

01:23:36.820 isn't run by

01:23:37.740 artists don't

01:23:38.780 want them they're

01:23:39.500 not in charge of

01:23:39.960 the power grid

01:23:40.440 okay but

01:23:41.580 healthy society

01:23:42.180 does kind of

01:23:42.780 listen sometimes

01:23:44.220 to what they say

01:23:45.180 because they're

01:23:45.700 saying unconventional

01:23:46.400 things challenge

01:23:47.780 you to think a

01:23:48.400 little more deeply

01:23:48.960 about things you

01:23:50.640 assume are true are

01:23:51.460 they actually true

01:23:52.100 um you pay artists

01:23:53.700 to say things like

01:23:54.360 that so it's just

01:23:56.160 wild to live in a

01:23:57.420 society where artists

01:23:59.440 are leading the

01:24:00.580 charge for conformity

01:24:02.060 they're like no no

01:24:03.360 obey that doesn't

01:24:05.100 seem when did that

01:24:05.800 happen i don't know

01:24:06.660 but it's very weird

01:24:07.900 it it seems like

01:24:10.720 what once was like

01:24:15.100 on that edge is now

01:24:18.500 so blunted and

01:24:20.200 everybody is just a

01:24:21.960 spokesperson person

01:24:23.420 for the machine it

01:24:24.780 does feel that way

01:24:25.780 because they're all

01:24:27.000 afraid of losing their

01:24:28.280 position in the

01:24:29.100 machine yeah when

01:24:32.860 all of the higher

01:24:34.520 ups think the

01:24:36.680 opposite that you

01:24:37.880 do most of the

01:24:40.080 time in this

01:24:40.740 industry those

01:24:42.960 people don't have

01:24:44.400 the wiggle room

01:24:45.140 that i do yeah

01:24:46.660 so they have to

01:24:48.040 conform or they

01:24:50.100 lose their spot i

01:24:53.060 was lucky enough

01:24:53.900 to have built and

01:24:55.760 created my spot

01:24:57.060 before i chose to

01:24:59.740 not conform right

01:25:01.220 so that matters i

01:25:02.960 didn't necessarily

01:25:03.660 lose my spot

01:25:05.220 just because i

01:25:06.820 didn't conform

01:25:07.580 because i had

01:25:08.620 already built it

01:25:09.360 and they couldn't

01:25:09.920 take that away from

01:25:10.720 me at that point

01:25:11.480 like they've

01:25:14.620 already tried to

01:25:15.420 cancel me

01:25:16.020 they've already

01:25:17.720 done everything

01:25:18.420 that they can do

01:25:19.100 to talk shit

01:25:20.260 about me

01:25:20.960 so now they just

01:25:22.820 ignore my existence

01:25:24.020 now they don't

01:25:25.160 even say bad

01:25:25.840 things they just

01:25:26.440 don't say anything

01:25:27.060 at all

01:25:27.620 it doesn't seem

01:25:31.500 to have affected

01:25:32.100 your sales

01:25:32.880 it doesn't seem

01:25:35.760 to you had one

01:25:36.340 of the biggest

01:25:36.660 songs in the

01:25:37.180 country a couple

01:25:38.340 years ago

01:25:38.980 everybody hated

01:25:39.920 it everybody in

01:25:41.920 charge hated it

01:25:42.760 am i the only

01:25:43.480 one yeah yeah

01:25:44.580 there was a

01:25:45.360 outward call

01:25:46.340 within the industry

01:25:47.540 for me to be

01:25:49.000 canceled and to

01:25:49.640 lose my record

01:25:50.280 deal and my

01:25:53.220 record label

01:25:53.800 president who we

01:25:54.720 don't see eye to

01:25:55.520 eye on politics

01:25:56.420 at all stood

01:25:58.340 up for my

01:25:58.920 right to free

01:26:00.160 speech and my

01:26:01.580 right and my

01:26:02.380 right to creativity

01:26:03.380 and as an artist

01:26:04.640 my right to

01:26:05.940 express myself

01:26:06.780 however i want

01:26:07.720 what didn't they

01:26:08.320 like about the

01:26:08.840 song

01:26:09.160 that it was

01:26:13.660 a patriotic

01:26:16.760 country loving

01:26:18.060 point out the

01:26:22.100 what the fuck

01:26:23.680 is going on

01:26:24.660 right now

01:26:25.300 point of view

01:26:28.000 and they didn't

01:26:29.760 like that

01:26:30.340 they they

01:26:31.680 they didn't

01:26:32.820 like that

01:26:33.880 i was pointing

01:26:35.700 out the obvious

01:26:37.040 in a time

01:26:39.040 where

01:26:39.600 every single

01:26:43.020 one of us

01:26:43.880 was sitting

01:26:44.320 there scratching

01:26:45.020 our heads

01:26:45.640 going what

01:26:46.520 in the fuck

01:26:47.460 is going on

01:26:48.640 in this country

01:26:49.580 i'm i'm 49

01:26:54.220 or 50 at

01:26:55.300 the time

01:26:55.780 or whatever

01:26:56.200 it was

01:26:56.780 and i've

01:26:59.120 never seen

01:26:59.560 anything even

01:27:00.340 remotely close

01:27:01.080 to what's going

01:27:01.660 on right now

01:27:02.260 in this country

01:27:02.820 like where

01:27:04.680 did our sense

01:27:05.940 of free people

01:27:07.280 go where all

01:27:08.380 of a sudden

01:27:08.840 we're just

01:27:09.520 conforming to

01:27:11.060 these rules

01:27:11.740 that just don't

01:27:12.420 make any sense

01:27:13.120 it seems like

01:27:13.660 they're just

01:27:14.000 taking handfuls

01:27:15.380 of shit and

01:27:16.040 throwing it

01:27:16.500 against the wall

01:27:17.280 and seeing what

01:27:17.960 sticks and i

01:27:20.820 was like what

01:27:22.820 the fuck am i

01:27:23.460 the only one

01:27:24.580 who's seeing

01:27:27.260 this who's

01:27:28.080 who's recognizing

01:27:30.120 how completely

01:27:32.740 how completely

01:27:37.080 absurd the

01:27:39.000 whole concept

01:27:39.720 was of

01:27:40.480 shutting

01:27:42.000 everything down

01:27:43.900 how

01:27:44.420 how do we

01:27:47.520 survive that

01:27:48.440 as a

01:27:49.140 as an

01:27:50.400 economy

01:27:51.140 as a

01:27:51.820 as a

01:27:52.880 as a

01:27:53.520 the wheels

01:27:55.800 that need

01:27:57.140 to keep

01:27:57.560 moving at

01:27:58.240 all times

01:27:59.000 just screeched

01:28:00.440 to a freaking

01:28:01.140 halt

01:28:01.560 and

01:28:04.320 you know

01:28:06.500 me and

01:28:07.280 and jeff

01:28:07.960 steel

01:28:08.360 and ira dean

01:28:09.880 got together

01:28:10.520 and

01:28:10.900 everybody was

01:28:13.740 wearing masks

01:28:14.500 at the time

01:28:15.120 everybody

01:28:15.560 was

01:28:16.140 was

01:28:16.700 was

01:28:17.320 distancing

01:28:18.100 themselves

01:28:18.580 from everybody

01:28:19.280 that moment

01:28:21.340 in time

01:28:21.940 was

01:28:22.280 one of the

01:28:23.760 most destructive

01:28:24.600 moments in time

01:28:25.760 that we've ever

01:28:26.600 experienced

01:28:27.420 it

01:28:29.560 it destroyed

01:28:31.120 our

01:28:31.680 our close

01:28:33.360 knitness

01:28:34.180 it destroyed

01:28:36.180 human beings

01:28:38.780 are

01:28:39.040 are

01:28:39.360 are

01:28:39.720 are

01:28:40.060 social people

01:28:40.880 they want to be

01:28:41.880 in groups

01:28:42.420 they want to be

01:28:43.100 together

01:28:43.580 we we we want to

01:28:44.900 we're we're you

01:28:46.200 know

01:28:46.460 we we we want to

01:28:49.440 come together

01:28:50.140 instinctively

01:28:51.460 and to do

01:28:55.620 that

01:28:56.080 like there's a

01:28:58.240 there's a whole lot

01:28:59.440 of people that

01:29:00.260 that are responsible

01:29:02.160 for that

01:29:02.820 that that should be

01:29:04.340 held accountable

01:29:05.200 for what they

01:29:06.740 did

01:29:07.180 I couldn't agree

01:29:08.460 more

01:29:08.740 I'm

01:29:11.420 I'm still

01:29:13.320 blown away

01:29:13.800 by it

01:29:14.280 I still

01:29:15.380 I still

01:29:17.820 feel like

01:29:18.500 the words

01:29:19.800 to that

01:29:20.220 song

01:29:20.660 are

01:29:20.980 are

01:29:21.880 just as

01:29:22.660 relevant

01:29:23.260 to

01:29:24.900 this moment

01:29:26.820 that we are

01:29:27.340 sitting in

01:29:27.840 right now

01:29:28.460 as it was

01:29:30.180 five years ago

01:29:30.940 when we were

01:29:31.400 locked up

01:29:31.920 and told

01:29:32.360 that we had

01:29:32.780 to wear

01:29:33.040 masks

01:29:33.540 and then

01:29:33.840 we couldn't

01:29:35.560 I

01:29:35.880 I had a

01:29:38.740 mask

01:29:39.200 in my

01:29:40.240 car

01:29:40.720 just

01:29:43.220 to put

01:29:43.860 on

01:29:44.340 if I

01:29:46.340 went

01:29:46.680 into

01:29:47.720 Dunkin Donuts

01:29:48.580 or if I

01:29:49.140 and that

01:29:49.800 didn't even

01:29:50.280 last for

01:29:50.800 very long

01:29:51.300 a month

01:29:51.920 into it

01:29:52.320 I was like

01:29:52.740 this is

01:29:53.400 fucking

01:29:53.940 bullshit

01:29:54.440 I'm not

01:29:55.860 I got thrown

01:29:57.120 out of

01:29:57.420 Dunkin Donuts

01:29:58.120 one day

01:29:58.740 for walking

01:29:59.960 in without

01:30:00.380 my mask

01:30:00.980 on

01:30:01.420 you got thrown

01:30:02.080 out of

01:30:02.260 Dunkin Donuts

01:30:02.900 and like

01:30:04.880 like

01:30:05.680 rudely

01:30:07.460 really

01:30:08.620 like you

01:30:09.340 are putting

01:30:09.940 everybody

01:30:10.660 in this

01:30:11.340 in this

01:30:12.300 place's

01:30:12.920 life in

01:30:13.660 danger

01:30:14.080 and you

01:30:15.280 should be

01:30:15.720 ashamed

01:30:16.120 of yourself

01:30:16.740 I was like

01:30:17.140 Dunkin Donuts

01:30:17.560 is the place

01:30:17.900 where homeless

01:30:18.360 junkies shoot up

01:30:19.080 in the bathroom

01:30:19.400 right

01:30:19.700 same place

01:30:20.760 yeah

01:30:20.960 okay

01:30:21.340 but what you

01:30:22.780 were doing

01:30:23.080 was unclean

01:30:23.820 right

01:30:24.600 so

01:30:27.120 I

01:30:28.060 yeah

01:30:28.600 I never knew

01:30:29.520 that people

01:30:30.040 were that easy

01:30:30.700 to

01:30:31.040 to train

01:30:32.260 I never

01:30:32.600 knew

01:30:32.740 they

01:30:32.880 were that

01:30:33.200 obedient

01:30:33.580 I never

01:30:34.040 knew

01:30:34.220 there were

01:30:34.480 that many

01:30:34.800 people

01:30:35.060 with no

01:30:35.480 self-respect

01:30:35.980 at all

01:30:36.500 at the time

01:30:37.420 I was living

01:30:38.060 in a

01:30:38.480 a very

01:30:40.040 very

01:30:40.900 left

01:30:43.600 town

01:30:44.820 which town

01:30:45.760 Massachusetts

01:30:46.420 Northampton

01:30:47.520 Massachusetts

01:30:48.200 lesbian capital

01:30:49.260 of the world

01:30:49.720 mm-hmm

01:30:50.440 it's where

01:30:51.160 Smith College

01:30:51.880 is

01:30:52.440 it's a

01:30:53.200 it is a

01:30:54.320 festering

01:30:55.260 cesspool

01:30:56.700 of

01:30:57.400 of anti-American

01:30:59.000 everything

01:30:59.500 what's the

01:30:59.940 happiness

01:31:00.340 level

01:31:00.720 would you

01:31:00.980 say

01:31:01.140 in

01:31:01.240 Northampton

01:31:01.720 misery

01:31:02.200 I don't

01:31:03.780 see

01:31:03.960 I don't

01:31:04.720 see

01:31:05.140 anybody

01:31:05.800 smiling

01:31:06.720 ever

01:31:07.440 ever

01:31:08.420 they are

01:31:08.840 all

01:31:09.140 all these

01:31:11.280 people that

01:31:11.820 feel the

01:31:12.300 need to

01:31:12.760 virtue signal

01:31:13.660 every time

01:31:14.120 they turn

01:31:14.460 around

01:31:14.800 are some

01:31:15.340 of the

01:31:15.600 most

01:31:15.840 miserable

01:31:16.620 people

01:31:17.300 you've

01:31:17.820 ever met

01:31:18.440 in your

01:31:18.720 life

01:31:19.080 oh I've

01:31:19.820 noticed

01:31:20.220 oh yeah

01:31:20.740 what are they

01:31:21.300 mad about

01:31:21.940 their own

01:31:25.180 failures

01:31:25.600 I don't

01:31:26.380 I don't

01:31:26.780 know

01:31:27.100 I don't

01:31:27.880 know

01:31:28.160 why

01:31:28.780 it's

01:31:31.220 such

01:31:31.840 an

01:31:32.040 incessant

01:31:32.940 need

01:31:33.820 these

01:31:35.360 days

01:31:35.720 to

01:31:36.060 to do

01:31:36.580 it

01:31:36.860 like

01:31:37.640 just

01:31:37.880 live

01:31:38.120 a good

01:31:38.400 life

01:31:38.900 all this

01:31:40.560 virtue

01:31:40.880 signaling

01:31:41.320 all this

01:31:41.740 all this

01:31:42.560 fake

01:31:43.380 outrage

01:31:44.160 just

01:31:45.380 live a good

01:31:46.680 life

01:31:47.060 yeah

01:31:47.500 treat people

01:31:49.220 good

01:31:49.520 you'll get

01:31:50.040 treated good

01:31:50.500 in return

01:31:50.940 how'd they

01:31:52.840 how'd they

01:31:53.220 treat you

01:31:53.580 in Northampton

01:31:54.220 if they

01:31:56.580 knew who

01:31:57.160 I was

01:31:57.800 probably

01:31:58.220 not very

01:31:58.800 good

01:31:59.080 country music

01:31:59.680 is not

01:31:59.920 that big

01:32:00.240 in Northampton

01:32:00.820 I'm not

01:32:01.680 I'm a

01:32:02.520 I'm not

01:32:04.480 the

01:32:05.800 artist

01:32:07.220 celebrity

01:32:09.000 I hate

01:32:09.500 I don't even

01:32:09.940 like using

01:32:10.400 that word

01:32:10.900 it makes

01:32:11.700 me feel

01:32:12.040 weird

01:32:12.300 I'm not

01:32:14.300 I'm not

01:32:16.300 the artist

01:32:16.760 that wants

01:32:17.440 to get

01:32:17.720 noticed

01:32:18.180 I

01:32:19.500 I try

01:32:20.120 my best

01:32:20.660 to stay

01:32:21.560 under the

01:32:22.060 radar

01:32:22.440 a successful

01:32:24.040 day for me

01:32:24.800 of going

01:32:25.240 out and

01:32:25.560 about

01:32:25.880 is not

01:32:27.180 getting

01:32:27.560 noticed

01:32:28.040 so

01:32:30.300 it

01:32:34.020 doesn't

01:32:36.940 I don't

01:32:39.220 even remember

01:32:39.700 where I

01:32:40.180 was

01:32:40.540 sometimes I

01:32:42.500 get on a

01:32:42.880 roll and I

01:32:43.520 lose track

01:32:44.740 well you just

01:32:45.300 picked the right

01:32:46.060 town for

01:32:46.780 anonymity

01:32:47.460 I mean if

01:32:48.080 you were

01:32:48.320 say the

01:32:48.660 indigo

01:32:49.000 girls

01:32:49.440 or the

01:32:51.080 dixie

01:32:51.400 wouldn't

01:32:51.720 be able to

01:32:52.140 walk down

01:32:52.480 the street

01:32:52.820 no

01:32:53.260 but

01:32:54.600 you really

01:32:56.420 did you

01:32:57.520 choose

01:32:57.920 Northampton

01:32:58.460 because you

01:32:58.880 know not a

01:32:59.240 single person

01:32:59.700 there has

01:32:59.940 ever heard

01:33:00.280 of your

01:33:00.520 music

01:33:00.880 at the

01:33:01.840 time it

01:33:02.260 was out

01:33:02.600 of

01:33:02.740 convenience

01:33:03.340 but

01:33:08.120 I

01:33:11.140 certainly

01:33:11.640 would not

01:33:12.380 choose

01:33:13.740 nor do

01:33:16.180 I

01:33:16.520 now that I

01:33:17.500 don't live

01:33:18.240 in downtown

01:33:19.200 Northampton

01:33:19.880 I don't

01:33:21.680 I don't

01:33:22.280 choose to

01:33:22.680 go there

01:33:23.080 I will go

01:33:24.140 into Northampton

01:33:24.920 for pretty much

01:33:25.880 one reason

01:33:26.480 and one

01:33:26.860 reason only

01:33:27.520 and his

01:33:30.000 name is

01:33:30.460 Sam

01:33:30.860 and he

01:33:31.980 is the

01:33:32.540 sushi chef

01:33:33.240 at Moshi

01:33:33.860 Moshi

01:33:34.200 and I

01:33:36.340 will go

01:33:36.820 and I

01:33:37.380 will sit

01:33:37.740 down at

01:33:38.160 the sushi

01:33:38.540 bar with

01:33:39.320 Sam

01:33:39.720 drink sake

01:33:41.200 with him

01:33:41.680 and eat

01:33:42.700 sushi

01:33:43.060 so you'll

01:33:44.640 make the

01:33:44.980 sushi pilgrimage

01:33:45.760 but you

01:33:46.360 would but

01:33:46.960 no more

01:33:47.360 residential

01:33:47.880 time there

01:33:48.560 no

01:33:48.900 what's

01:33:50.820 your

01:33:50.960 let me

01:33:52.340 ask you

01:33:52.620 a couple

01:33:52.900 questions about

01:33:54.720 what you

01:33:55.060 like

01:33:55.440 I want to

01:33:56.400 try that

01:33:56.680 flavor

01:33:56.980 oh it's

01:33:57.620 the best

01:33:58.080 this is

01:33:58.920 sweet nectar

01:33:59.880 and we

01:34:00.280 just came

01:34:00.540 out with

01:34:00.880 it

01:34:01.100 and I

01:34:01.580 got like

01:34:01.960 a case

01:34:02.400 of it

01:34:02.680 so I've

01:34:02.980 been

01:34:03.120 I've been

01:34:03.480 on it

01:34:03.800 and I

01:34:04.140 really like

01:34:04.740 it

01:34:04.800 what are the

01:34:04.820 other two

01:34:05.160 new flavors

01:34:05.540 the other

01:34:05.860 couple flavors

01:34:06.460 I know

01:34:06.880 that I

01:34:07.120 heard you

01:34:07.460 we have

01:34:07.680 a bunch

01:34:07.980 we've got

01:34:08.500 fruit and

01:34:09.300 mint and

01:34:09.600 wintergreen

01:34:10.000 and all

01:34:10.640 that but

01:34:11.060 this is

01:34:11.920 and we've

01:34:13.420 got a bunch

01:34:13.780 of other

01:34:14.020 flavors we're

01:34:14.520 working on

01:34:14.960 but that

01:34:15.480 the government

01:34:17.540 makes it hard

01:34:18.180 to introduce

01:34:18.700 new flavors

01:34:19.280 it's crazy

01:34:19.880 well because

01:34:20.280 you're

01:34:21.140 trying to

01:34:22.360 get the

01:34:22.620 kids

01:34:22.940 that's what

01:34:23.960 it is

01:34:24.400 yeah I

01:34:25.440 can't I'm

01:34:25.880 not even

01:34:26.220 allowed to

01:34:26.640 talk about

01:34:27.600 that topic

01:34:28.340 nicotine for

01:34:29.720 the children

01:34:30.140 it's totally

01:34:30.680 verboten

01:34:31.280 I started

01:34:32.680 really young

01:34:33.180 I'll just

01:34:33.660 say that

01:34:34.180 and I'm

01:34:35.140 glad I

01:34:35.660 did

01:34:35.840 but anyway

01:34:36.680 I know

01:34:37.680 everyone

01:34:37.920 disagrees with

01:34:38.420 me but

01:34:38.720 that's how

01:34:39.020 I actually

01:34:39.360 feel so

01:34:39.720 I'm just

01:34:39.940 gonna say

01:34:40.240 it

01:34:40.400 I had

01:34:40.960 my first

01:34:41.580 cigarette

01:34:42.920 at eight

01:34:43.980 and I've

01:34:47.580 actually been

01:34:49.800 smoking

01:34:50.580 like

01:34:51.700 have a

01:34:52.820 pack of

01:34:53.180 cigarettes

01:34:53.720 I've been

01:34:54.960 smoking since

01:34:55.700 I was like

01:34:56.200 13

01:34:56.700 yeah me too

01:34:57.560 but I

01:34:59.220 quit at

01:34:59.840 45

01:35:00.400 and what

01:35:01.140 brand do

01:35:01.440 you smoke

01:35:01.740 American

01:35:02.640 Spirits

01:35:03.160 it's a good

01:35:03.760 cigarette

01:35:04.140 it is

01:35:04.900 as far as

01:35:05.860 a cigarette

01:35:06.240 goes

01:35:06.800 it's delicious

01:35:08.120 it's delicious

01:35:08.940 it doesn't

01:35:09.420 have all the

01:35:10.100 extra

01:35:10.760 1600

01:35:12.100 chemicals

01:35:12.900 that they

01:35:13.600 put in

01:35:14.000 there to

01:35:14.280 make it

01:35:14.560 more

01:35:14.760 addictive

01:35:15.120 to make

01:35:15.600 it burn

01:35:15.960 faster

01:35:16.480 to make

01:35:16.960 it burn

01:35:17.300 slower

01:35:17.820 right

01:35:18.200 they even

01:35:18.660 put chemicals

01:35:19.320 in there

01:35:19.660 that are

01:35:19.960 contradictory

01:35:20.500 to themselves

01:35:21.180 yeah

01:35:21.640 for fire

01:35:22.580 proofing

01:35:24.700 their cigarettes

01:35:25.360 I mean

01:35:25.680 it's all

01:35:26.180 yeah

01:35:27.300 and then

01:35:27.880 an American

01:35:28.340 spirit

01:35:28.760 will go

01:35:30.040 out on

01:35:30.480 its own

01:35:31.000 no I

01:35:31.620 know

01:35:31.860 if you

01:35:33.300 I smoked

01:35:33.800 American

01:35:34.260 spirit

01:35:34.500 blues

01:35:34.980 the light

01:35:37.260 blue

01:35:37.520 and I

01:35:38.480 always took

01:35:38.880 the filters

01:35:39.260 off

01:35:39.560 and I

01:35:39.800 wow

01:35:40.180 that's

01:35:40.420 the strongest

01:35:41.220 cigarette

01:35:41.560 made in

01:35:41.860 America

01:35:42.080 if you

01:35:42.340 do that

01:35:42.740 it's

01:35:43.740 incredible

01:35:44.120 cigarette

01:35:44.540 I don't

01:35:45.220 smoke

01:35:45.440 anymore

01:35:45.640 anyway

01:35:46.220 sorry

01:35:46.640 I'm not

01:35:47.200 promoting

01:35:47.520 smoking

01:35:47.960 though it is

01:35:48.520 delicious

01:35:48.940 very delicious

01:35:50.360 more delicious

01:35:52.260 than anything I've ever done before or since

01:35:53.960 I'm just

01:35:54.320 that's why people do it

01:35:55.560 by the way

01:35:55.940 the piety around smoking

01:35:57.860 obviously smoking is not good for you

01:35:59.840 I don't want my children to smoke

01:36:01.900 it's not good for you

01:36:02.080 it smells

01:36:02.880 it looks gross

01:36:04.920 all of those

01:36:06.200 I disagree

01:36:06.880 and

01:36:07.640 it's

01:36:08.960 such

01:36:10.540 a satisfying

01:36:11.860 five minutes

01:36:14.220 removed

01:36:14.720 off your life

01:36:15.580 well you think about

01:36:17.580 people who

01:36:18.340 kind of

01:36:18.840 openly

01:36:19.320 brazenly

01:36:20.200 publicly

01:36:20.720 send

01:36:21.640 young men off

01:36:23.060 to die

01:36:23.600 in pointless wars

01:36:24.500 on behalf of some

01:36:25.300 other country

01:36:26.300 like that's just

01:36:27.660 that's just

01:36:29.300 par

01:36:29.740 in the US Congress

01:36:30.580 they all

01:36:31.080 can't wait to do that

01:36:32.040 and they face no moral sanction

01:36:33.380 whatsoever

01:36:33.800 but if you were to light a cigarette

01:36:35.860 and someone saw you

01:36:38.180 you'd be like

01:36:39.120 a monster

01:36:40.440 look

01:36:41.320 I'm not

01:36:41.760 arguing for smoking

01:36:43.280 I'm just saying

01:36:44.680 it's good to have

01:36:45.880 a sensible

01:36:47.040 moral hierarchy

01:36:48.020 in mind

01:36:48.580 when you assess

01:36:49.200 other people's behavior

01:36:50.100 like

01:36:50.380 some things are bad

01:36:51.620 but some things are worse than that

01:36:52.880 right

01:36:53.280 right

01:36:54.500 and make your choices

01:36:55.660 accordingly

01:36:56.420 well kind of

01:36:57.960 and make your judgments

01:36:58.860 accordingly

01:36:59.420 I mean

01:36:59.840 I do think

01:37:01.160 violence

01:37:02.120 is bad

01:37:03.580 sure

01:37:04.140 and sending off

01:37:05.320 other people's kids

01:37:06.780 to die

01:37:07.680 is one of the worst things

01:37:09.360 I can imagine

01:37:10.440 and yet

01:37:11.660 that's celebrated

01:37:12.860 you would think

01:37:13.820 that that would be like

01:37:14.940 a really hard decision

01:37:17.340 it's not

01:37:17.860 it's not

01:37:18.900 no it's like

01:37:19.600 the easiest decision

01:37:20.560 for them to make

01:37:21.280 it's Lindsey Graham

01:37:22.180 literally can't wait

01:37:23.300 and I do think

01:37:24.900 all of them

01:37:25.420 should be forced

01:37:26.100 to go to the front lines

01:37:27.260 in Ukraine

01:37:27.740 and worry about

01:37:28.640 getting droned

01:37:29.380 not because I wish them harm

01:37:31.100 but because there should be

01:37:32.360 some skin in the game

01:37:34.260 I just want some

01:37:35.680 fucking truth

01:37:36.700 yeah I agree

01:37:37.660 I want to know

01:37:39.460 why

01:37:40.660 Lindsey Graham

01:37:42.420 is such

01:37:43.920 a

01:37:45.200 a

01:37:46.760 a

01:37:47.380 Ukraine

01:37:48.400 like

01:37:50.300 what

01:37:51.000 what were you doing

01:37:52.380 over there

01:37:52.920 Lindsey

01:37:53.240 in 2014

01:37:54.420 I think that's fair to ask

01:37:55.440 what were you doing

01:37:56.540 why are you so vested

01:37:58.120 in Ukraine

01:38:00.420 why

01:38:01.020 why

01:38:01.360 why would you

01:38:02.700 put Ukraine

01:38:03.840 over everything else

01:38:06.420 like

01:38:07.320 what is going on

01:38:09.220 I mean

01:38:09.900 as

01:38:10.920 as you know

01:38:11.900 as so many people

01:38:12.900 are fully aware

01:38:13.940 the Ukraine

01:38:14.860 is one of the

01:38:16.080 dirtiest

01:38:17.080 and most corrupt

01:38:18.800 places

01:38:19.760 in the world

01:38:20.740 aside from the United States

01:38:22.120 run by a Stalinist

01:38:23.580 by the way

01:38:24.100 who

01:38:24.360 canceled elections

01:38:25.860 closed the biggest

01:38:27.160 Christian denomination

01:38:28.200 in the country

01:38:29.480 put the priests

01:38:30.320 and nuns

01:38:30.900 in prison

01:38:31.500 like

01:38:31.900 murdering his

01:38:33.300 political enemies

01:38:33.980 I can't go to Ukraine

01:38:34.860 I'd get killed

01:38:35.360 if I went to Ukraine

01:38:35.920 a country that

01:38:36.400 my tax dollars support

01:38:37.520 right

01:38:37.900 and

01:38:39.020 Lindsey Graham

01:38:39.800 was like

01:38:39.980 no that's great

01:38:40.680 I don't know

01:38:41.660 I mean

01:38:42.020 let's just wake up a second

01:38:43.300 this is bonkers

01:38:44.520 it's degrading us

01:38:46.620 it's beyond

01:38:47.780 immoral

01:38:48.340 it's like

01:38:49.160 self-harm

01:38:49.840 at scale

01:38:50.420 it's crushing

01:38:51.280 the United States

01:38:52.020 it just makes me wonder

01:38:53.300 how many of these

01:38:54.320 politicians

01:38:55.140 that make these

01:38:56.040 decisions

01:38:56.500 that were like

01:38:57.240 what the fuck

01:38:57.940 are you even thinking

01:38:58.760 did you get caught

01:39:00.760 in a honeypot

01:39:01.500 did you do something

01:39:04.120 and they caught you

01:39:05.260 doing it

01:39:05.940 and now they have you

01:39:07.440 under their thumb

01:39:08.860 oh I know

01:39:09.460 like

01:39:10.420 Madison Cawthorne

01:39:12.720 got ran out

01:39:13.920 because he started

01:39:15.920 mentioning

01:39:16.420 stuff like that

01:39:17.620 started talking about

01:39:18.640 the parties

01:39:19.200 that happen

01:39:19.940 and start

01:39:20.520 they got rid of him

01:39:22.100 as fast as they could

01:39:23.280 he's a good dude

01:39:25.040 well Matt Gaetz

01:39:25.840 same thing

01:39:26.440 Matt Gaetz

01:39:26.940 same thing

01:39:27.420 they're like

01:39:27.800 oh you had sex

01:39:28.740 I don't know

01:39:29.620 how Marjorie Taylor Greene

01:39:31.320 has somehow

01:39:32.580 made it this far

01:39:33.900 aside from

01:39:35.060 being a woman

01:39:37.920 I don't think

01:39:38.640 they have anything on her

01:39:39.760 I think she's

01:39:40.280 a decent person

01:39:41.080 yeah

01:39:41.460 I think she's incredible

01:39:42.800 but it was so funny

01:39:44.160 with Gaetz

01:39:44.720 they're like

01:39:45.240 he starts making

01:39:46.540 you know

01:39:47.300 unauthorized noises

01:39:48.600 about this or that

01:39:49.480 and all of a sudden

01:39:50.240 they're like

01:39:50.580 well you had sex

01:39:51.260 with children

01:39:51.820 okay

01:39:52.380 where's the evidence

01:39:54.160 and by the way

01:39:54.820 where's the indictment

01:39:55.580 they never indicted him

01:39:56.380 for it

01:39:56.720 oh I know

01:39:57.120 so how can you

01:39:57.860 accuse somebody

01:39:58.820 of a crime

01:39:59.580 and then not

01:40:00.060 the government

01:40:00.720 is accusing him

01:40:01.440 of a crime

01:40:01.760 and then not

01:40:02.240 indicting him

01:40:02.740 for it

01:40:03.160 why is that

01:40:04.240 not a crime

01:40:04.640 in itself

01:40:05.260 if Matt Gaetz

01:40:06.240 had sex

01:40:06.600 with children

01:40:07.080 indict him

01:40:08.400 arrest him

01:40:09.640 put him on trial

01:40:10.820 and prove it

01:40:11.560 or

01:40:12.520 you're in trouble

01:40:14.340 yourself

01:40:14.980 for

01:40:16.240 for

01:40:17.000 for destroying

01:40:19.100 his character

01:40:19.700 using my tax dollars

01:40:20.860 to commit slander

01:40:21.620 against your political opponents

01:40:22.780 yeah that's a crime

01:40:23.480 right

01:40:23.860 but no one's ever prosecuted

01:40:25.580 and but that's

01:40:26.660 what that does

01:40:27.900 is it puts the fear of God

01:40:29.120 into all the other freaks

01:40:30.060 in Congress

01:40:30.640 all of whom

01:40:31.360 have some

01:40:31.760 not all

01:40:32.140 but many of whom

01:40:32.740 have something to hide

01:40:33.540 including people

01:40:34.500 we've just mentioned

01:40:35.180 and they're like

01:40:36.760 whoa

01:40:37.200 you know

01:40:37.740 I better stay

01:40:38.560 way away

01:40:39.340 from the boundaries

01:40:40.000 because I could get hurt

01:40:41.060 it just casts a pall

01:40:42.760 over everybody

01:40:43.760 of fear

01:40:44.360 you obviously

01:40:47.500 don't feel that

01:40:48.180 no

01:40:48.940 how

01:40:53.000 how long

01:40:54.160 can you do

01:40:54.600 180 shows a year

01:40:55.720 if I'm doing

01:40:59.100 the country thing

01:41:00.400 yeah

01:41:00.760 forever

01:41:01.780 really

01:41:03.220 well Willie Nelson

01:41:04.540 does it

01:41:05.020 he's 90

01:41:05.700 yeah

01:41:06.840 I can

01:41:07.320 I can

01:41:07.840 if I live that long

01:41:10.540 I could

01:41:10.880 I could still be

01:41:11.760 the country thing

01:41:12.600 I could still be doing that

01:41:13.760 the stained thing

01:41:15.100 that's a

01:41:16.120 that's a little bit

01:41:17.220 more taxing

01:41:18.520 yeah

01:41:18.960 to my

01:41:19.520 to my voice

01:41:20.420 it's a lot of yelling

01:41:21.460 it's a lot of screaming

01:41:22.540 it's

01:41:23.920 it's

01:41:24.760 it's

01:41:25.800 it's a lot more

01:41:26.720 taxing

01:41:27.880 to where

01:41:28.680 if I'm being

01:41:30.700 completely honest

01:41:32.140 there's probably

01:41:33.720 more of a shelf life

01:41:35.220 to my country thing

01:41:37.580 than there is

01:41:38.300 to the stained thing

01:41:39.200 yeah

01:41:39.600 there's probably

01:41:40.240 gonna come a point

01:41:41.240 where I'm gonna have to

01:41:42.440 be like

01:41:43.440 you know what

01:41:43.960 it's

01:41:46.420 it's too taxing on me

01:41:48.000 and it takes too long

01:41:49.100 for me to recover

01:41:49.980 from being on

01:41:51.620 tour with stained

01:41:52.580 for a month

01:41:53.360 and there's probably

01:41:55.480 gonna come a point

01:41:56.300 where I'm gonna be like

01:41:57.340 for longevity's purposes

01:42:01.340 I

01:42:01.800 I

01:42:03.300 I

01:42:03.580 I need to

01:42:04.340 either

01:42:05.400 do

01:42:06.340 less shows

01:42:07.300 or

01:42:07.940 not so many

01:42:09.160 in a row

01:42:09.840 or

01:42:11.100 the country thing

01:42:13.620 man

01:42:14.580 I could do

01:42:15.280 three shows a day

01:42:16.500 every single day

01:42:17.440 and never blow myself out

01:42:18.900 and enjoy it

01:42:20.340 you have to be

01:42:27.120 pretty damn blessed

01:42:28.580 in life

01:42:29.220 to be able

01:42:33.640 to continue

01:42:34.760 enjoying

01:42:37.620 a job

01:42:39.640 yeah

01:42:40.280 it is a job

01:42:41.340 at the end

01:42:41.920 of the day

01:42:42.480 at the

01:42:43.600 I'm blessed

01:42:44.380 that I was able

01:42:45.180 to

01:42:45.720 create my job

01:42:48.740 around something

01:42:50.100 that

01:42:50.620 I love

01:42:51.660 and that I'm

01:42:52.140 driven to do

01:42:53.220 but

01:42:56.340 as a job

01:42:57.720 there's parts

01:42:59.580 of that

01:43:00.080 that

01:43:00.420 kind of

01:43:01.020 ruin

01:43:01.600 the

01:43:02.140 experience

01:43:03.220 of it all

01:43:03.900 there's

01:43:04.260 it's the music

01:43:05.940 business

01:43:06.940 the music

01:43:09.040 part

01:43:09.520 I love

01:43:10.900 yeah

01:43:11.560 the business

01:43:12.580 part

01:43:13.120 it

01:43:16.040 it can

01:43:17.620 ruin

01:43:18.280 the part

01:43:19.200 that I love

01:43:19.660 so much

01:43:20.120 that's why

01:43:20.480 no one enjoys

01:43:21.020 porn

01:43:21.340 sorry

01:43:22.220 I should have

01:43:22.500 said that

01:43:22.800 no but it's true

01:43:23.460 I mean like

01:43:23.940 any time

01:43:24.920 you

01:43:25.400 you know

01:43:26.460 take a good

01:43:27.020 thing

01:43:27.320 and make it

01:43:28.220 a business

01:43:28.560 it diminishes

01:43:29.700 it of course

01:43:30.340 oh god

01:43:31.300 our poor kids

01:43:32.540 these days

01:43:33.040 they're

01:43:33.440 sex addicts

01:43:35.480 and porn addicts

01:43:36.200 before they even

01:43:36.780 had sex

01:43:37.380 I know

01:43:37.860 it's depressing

01:43:38.460 they're learning

01:43:39.280 about sex

01:43:40.200 through porn

01:43:41.520 yeah

01:43:42.100 and

01:43:43.100 yeah

01:43:43.560 that's a

01:43:44.080 that's a

01:43:45.340 healthy

01:43:45.980 sex life

01:43:47.000 it's

01:43:48.500 yeah

01:43:49.000 yeah

01:43:50.120 speaking of

01:43:51.060 like

01:43:51.540 creating a moral

01:43:52.660 hierarchy

01:43:53.100 the people

01:43:53.760 who make

01:43:54.240 and profit

01:43:54.680 from porn

01:43:55.360 I mean

01:43:56.760 I don't know

01:43:57.140 why they're

01:43:57.480 not in prison

01:43:58.060 but

01:43:58.920 I talk about

01:44:00.340 exploitation

01:44:01.040 oh

01:44:01.900 yeah

01:44:02.420 right

01:44:03.780 but it's

01:44:04.580 it's the cigarette

01:44:05.280 smokers

01:44:05.760 and the people

01:44:06.120 who doubt

01:44:06.460 Zelensky

01:44:06.920 who

01:44:07.260 really should

01:44:08.280 lose

01:44:08.480 their jobs

01:44:08.940 okay

01:44:09.700 let me end

01:44:10.260 on a happy note

01:44:11.280 so you've said

01:44:11.840 a lot of

01:44:12.680 tough things

01:44:14.280 about the music

01:44:14.900 business

01:44:15.420 and the people

01:44:16.380 who profit

01:44:16.880 from it

01:44:17.480 you described

01:44:17.960 them as leeches

01:44:18.600 I don't know

01:44:20.220 that to be true

01:44:20.660 because I've never

01:44:21.040 been in your business

01:44:21.640 but we all know

01:44:22.680 we all know

01:44:23.520 that is true

01:44:24.460 calling them a leech

01:44:26.180 it's a

01:44:26.940 that's a pretty

01:44:27.520 negative connotation

01:44:28.820 but

01:44:29.060 just a blood sucking

01:44:29.860 parasite

01:44:30.220 in general

01:44:31.260 what a leech

01:44:32.540 does

01:44:32.980 is it parasites

01:44:33.880 off of a living

01:44:35.000 organism

01:44:35.880 and

01:44:37.240 that

01:44:39.160 that leech

01:44:41.200 isn't the one

01:44:44.300 that's responsible

01:44:45.020 for the life

01:44:45.900 that it's

01:44:46.440 leeching off

01:44:47.300 exactly

01:44:47.760 and so

01:44:49.280 it's an

01:44:50.000 analogy

01:44:50.780 I don't want

01:44:52.000 to be that

01:44:52.960 negative

01:44:55.860 or like

01:44:56.840 hateful

01:44:57.940 about it

01:44:58.460 I'm

01:44:58.860 I'm very

01:44:59.640 grateful

01:45:00.340 to

01:45:01.920 to my

01:45:04.340 president

01:45:05.340 the record label

01:45:06.000 president

01:45:06.320 for standing up

01:45:07.040 for me

01:45:07.380 and for

01:45:07.840 but

01:45:09.440 you know

01:45:10.440 it's a

01:45:11.060 it's a

01:45:13.300 it's a

01:45:13.780 it's a

01:45:14.320 business

01:45:14.860 in a

01:45:15.420 in a

01:45:15.740 situation

01:45:16.100 that

01:45:16.740 you

01:45:18.440 stop

01:45:18.900 paying

01:45:19.120 attention

01:45:19.420 for a half

01:45:19.980 a second

01:45:20.340 and you're

01:45:20.760 ate up

01:45:21.120 and spit

01:45:21.440 out

01:45:21.660 already

01:45:22.000 and you're

01:45:22.320 gone

01:45:22.660 yeah

01:45:23.380 I believe

01:45:23.760 that

01:45:24.100 it

01:45:25.340 so who

01:45:26.400 are

01:45:26.620 so here's

01:45:27.280 the question

01:45:27.780 I want

01:45:28.040 to end

01:45:28.280 on

01:45:28.400 because

01:45:28.540 it is

01:45:28.780 a positive

01:45:29.960 question

01:45:30.440 having been

01:45:33.000 in it

01:45:33.160 for 30

01:45:33.500 years

01:45:33.720 who are

01:45:33.980 the good

01:45:34.240 guys

01:45:34.580 who are

01:45:35.340 the artists

01:45:35.740 who you

01:45:36.140 know

01:45:36.280 personally

01:45:36.700 who are

01:45:37.040 actually

01:45:37.520 in the

01:45:38.940 green room

01:45:39.440 good guys

01:45:40.440 long side

01:45:45.980 there

01:45:46.300 um

01:45:48.180 I

01:45:50.920 I keep

01:45:53.160 my circle

01:45:53.620 pretty small

01:45:54.300 um

01:45:56.460 you know

01:45:59.240 Bob's

01:46:02.820 Bob's

01:46:03.960 my friend

01:46:04.440 that'd be

01:46:05.140 Kid Rock

01:46:05.600 um

01:46:07.160 you know

01:46:09.900 I

01:46:10.340 I

01:46:12.280 I don't

01:46:13.060 interact

01:46:13.520 very much

01:46:14.120 with

01:46:14.480 the rest

01:46:15.700 of the

01:46:16.340 industry

01:46:17.280 really

01:46:17.700 I mean

01:46:18.320 I don't

01:46:18.800 I don't

01:46:19.660 find myself

01:46:20.320 in Nashville

01:46:20.860 very often

01:46:21.500 I don't

01:46:21.900 go to

01:46:22.620 the gatherings

01:46:24.080 and the

01:46:24.560 parties

01:46:24.940 and the

01:46:25.660 and the

01:46:26.680 I'm

01:46:27.460 I live

01:46:28.000 out in

01:46:28.540 the corn

01:46:29.320 and soybeans

01:46:30.440 and the tobacco

01:46:31.480 and

01:46:32.080 and

01:46:32.840 you know

01:46:34.000 there's

01:46:35.200 miles

01:46:37.080 in every

01:46:37.760 direction

01:46:38.220 around my

01:46:38.800 house

01:46:39.120 of just

01:46:39.680 agriculture

01:46:41.380 I

01:46:43.920 I

01:46:44.340 so I

01:46:44.760 don't

01:46:45.120 really

01:46:46.000 interact

01:46:46.660 with the

01:46:47.480 business

01:46:47.820 very much

01:46:48.620 I'm

01:46:49.920 I'm

01:46:50.380 very

01:46:51.080 particular

01:46:51.940 about

01:46:52.580 my

01:46:54.820 inner

01:46:55.220 circle

01:46:55.720 and

01:46:56.500 and

01:46:57.500 who I

01:46:58.140 consider

01:46:59.180 a friend

01:46:59.800 and

01:47:00.080 I don't

01:47:01.320 I don't

01:47:02.500 have a lot

01:47:02.940 of those

01:47:03.440 you know

01:47:05.360 I don't

01:47:05.760 I don't

01:47:06.040 have a lot

01:47:06.460 big picture

01:47:06.780 Aaron Lewis

01:47:07.540 I gave

01:47:08.300 you a

01:47:08.540 so it's

01:47:09.220 like

01:47:09.300 all right

01:47:09.560 who are

01:47:10.100 the good

01:47:10.360 guys

01:47:10.660 and you're

01:47:10.920 like

01:47:11.220 uh

01:47:12.180 well

01:47:14.500 you know

01:47:15.280 this

01:47:15.620 this

01:47:16.800 business

01:47:17.320 is

01:47:17.820 is

01:47:18.560 tough

01:47:19.120 would you

01:47:19.940 want your

01:47:20.220 kids to

01:47:20.520 go into

01:47:20.740 it

01:47:20.940 no

01:47:21.740 and

01:47:22.860 and

01:47:23.200 they've

01:47:23.520 had

01:47:23.680 my

01:47:23.960 my

01:47:24.280 my

01:47:24.780 oldest

01:47:25.120 daughter

01:47:25.420 Zoe

01:47:25.740 is

01:47:26.060 on

01:47:26.500 one

01:47:26.720 of

01:47:26.860 my

01:47:27.060 records

01:47:27.540 singing

01:47:28.760 um

01:47:29.340 uh

01:47:30.560 singing

01:47:30.860 traveling

01:47:31.740 soldier

01:47:32.180 by

01:47:32.600 the

01:47:33.180 dixie

01:47:33.460 chicks

01:47:33.720 actually

01:47:34.160 um

01:47:35.380 and

01:47:39.000 I

01:47:41.000 don't

01:47:41.120 know

01:47:41.300 so many

01:47:42.180 people

01:47:42.600 approached

01:47:43.100 me

01:47:43.300 like

01:47:43.640 I'll

01:47:45.060 give her

01:47:45.680 a record

01:47:46.000 deal

01:47:46.300 let's

01:47:46.500 let's

01:47:46.700 let's

01:47:47.460 she

01:47:48.200 doesn't

01:47:48.460 want

01:47:48.740 nothing

01:47:49.360 to do

01:47:49.700 with it

01:47:50.020 my

01:47:51.640 kids

01:47:51.920 have

01:47:52.200 my

01:47:53.660 kids

01:47:53.920 have

01:47:54.080 been

01:47:54.220 on

01:47:54.380 the

01:47:54.500 receiving

01:47:54.920 end

01:47:55.300 of

01:47:55.480 all

01:47:55.700 the

01:47:56.040 shit

01:47:57.100 that

01:47:57.460 comes

01:47:57.760 with

01:47:57.960 this

01:47:58.260 industry

01:47:58.820 and

01:48:00.020 all

01:48:00.260 the

01:48:00.420 sacrifice

01:48:00.880 and

01:48:01.260 all

01:48:01.460 the

01:48:01.740 all

01:48:02.540 the

01:48:02.880 the

01:48:04.120 the

01:48:04.940 disappointment

01:48:05.580 and

01:48:06.140 the

01:48:06.460 you know

01:48:07.760 I'm a

01:48:08.540 I'm a

01:48:09.700 slave to

01:48:10.140 the grind

01:48:10.680 you know

01:48:11.960 the grind

01:48:12.860 has

01:48:14.880 taken

01:48:15.780 precedent

01:48:16.280 over

01:48:16.760 important

01:48:17.360 things

01:48:17.800 in my

01:48:18.140 life

01:48:18.440 that I

01:48:18.740 can never

01:48:19.160 get back

01:48:19.800 you know

01:48:20.980 monumental

01:48:21.500 things

01:48:22.280 my

01:48:23.000 kids

01:48:23.240 first

01:48:23.560 steps

01:48:24.000 my

01:48:24.360 kids

01:48:24.540 first

01:48:24.820 words

01:48:25.340 my

01:48:25.600 kids

01:48:25.920 first

01:48:27.060 days

01:48:27.320 of

01:48:27.480 school

01:48:27.900 my

01:48:28.260 kids

01:48:28.620 last

01:48:29.280 days

01:48:29.580 of

01:48:29.740 school

01:48:30.040 my

01:48:30.280 kids

01:48:30.440 graduations

01:48:31.400 I

01:48:33.700 haven't

01:48:34.060 been able

01:48:34.400 to be

01:48:34.680 there

01:48:34.920 for a

01:48:35.280 lot

01:48:35.480 of

01:48:35.620 them

01:48:35.820 the

01:48:38.300 the

01:48:39.040 sacrifice

01:48:40.960 is

01:48:41.320 real

01:48:41.680 yeah

01:48:42.620 um

01:48:43.540 but

01:48:44.620 it's

01:48:44.820 it's

01:48:45.060 created

01:48:45.620 a

01:48:45.840 situation

01:48:46.380 where

01:48:46.880 I

01:48:48.600 just

01:48:48.800 don't

01:48:49.020 let

01:48:49.220 very

01:48:49.440 many

01:48:49.660 people

01:48:50.000 in

01:48:50.400 so

01:48:51.720 that

01:48:51.940 you

01:48:52.620 know

01:48:52.740 big

01:48:53.060 roundabout

01:48:54.000 circle

01:48:54.440 to answer

01:48:55.020 your

01:48:55.260 question

01:48:55.700 I

01:48:58.220 I

01:48:58.920 have

01:48:59.080 a lot

01:48:59.320 of

01:48:59.440 acquaintances

01:49:00.240 in the

01:49:01.280 industry

01:49:01.740 like

01:49:02.540 there's

01:49:03.720 people

01:49:04.000 that I

01:49:04.420 have

01:49:04.860 this

01:49:05.380 huge

01:49:05.620 love

01:49:05.880 and

01:49:06.040 respect

01:49:06.300 for

01:49:06.760 I

01:49:07.300 I'm

01:49:09.280 like

01:49:10.540 pen

01:49:10.860 pals

01:49:11.220 like

01:49:11.580 me and

01:49:12.120 you text

01:49:12.540 all the

01:49:12.860 time

01:49:13.140 me and

01:49:14.440 Marilyn

01:49:14.760 Manson

01:49:15.200 text

01:49:15.520 all the

01:49:15.820 time

01:49:16.080 yeah

01:49:16.380 um

01:49:17.580 I

01:49:18.760 haven't

01:49:18.960 seen

01:49:19.100 he'd

01:49:19.280 actually

01:49:19.540 surprise

01:49:20.000 you

01:49:20.260 I

01:49:21.220 I

01:49:21.580 interviewed

01:49:21.940 him

01:49:22.300 in the

01:49:22.540 90s

01:49:23.040 Brian

01:49:24.120 and uh

01:49:25.320 and I

01:49:26.000 thought he

01:49:26.260 was smart

01:49:26.780 in maybe

01:49:27.700 1999

01:49:28.320 at the

01:49:28.740 Chateau

01:49:29.060 Mormont

01:49:29.420 in LA

01:49:29.760 Brian

01:49:30.440 is one

01:49:31.140 of

01:49:31.460 the

01:49:32.200 most

01:49:32.660 intelligent

01:49:33.820 profound

01:49:34.880 conversations

01:49:35.840 I have

01:49:36.720 ever had

01:49:37.720 with

01:49:37.940 somebody

01:49:38.380 I

01:49:39.740 like

01:49:40.220 he's

01:49:41.640 uh

01:49:41.880 and I

01:49:42.880 use the

01:49:43.360 word

01:49:43.700 evil

01:49:44.100 lightly

01:49:44.540 but he's

01:49:45.120 like an

01:49:45.340 evil

01:49:45.580 genius

01:49:46.120 he

01:49:47.180 he is

01:49:47.880 fully aware

01:49:48.820 of every

01:49:49.740 single button

01:49:50.740 he is

01:49:51.180 purposely

01:49:51.600 pushing

01:49:52.100 like

01:49:54.040 all

01:49:54.760 it's

01:49:55.280 all

01:49:55.760 been

01:49:56.280 he's

01:49:58.640 genius

01:49:59.020 like

01:49:59.340 it's

01:49:59.740 all

01:50:00.100 been

01:50:00.500 calculated

01:50:01.300 it's

01:50:01.720 all

01:50:02.120 like

01:50:03.140 he knows

01:50:03.660 exactly

01:50:04.280 what he's

01:50:04.760 doing

01:50:05.040 he knows

01:50:05.500 exactly

01:50:06.020 what buttons

01:50:06.620 he's

01:50:06.840 pushing

01:50:07.140 and he's

01:50:07.740 pushing

01:50:08.000 them on

01:50:08.380 purpose

01:50:08.860 interesting

01:50:11.140 he's

01:50:14.580 amazing

01:50:15.000 Jonathan

01:50:16.080 Davis

01:50:16.460 from

01:50:16.680 Korn

01:50:16.980 one

01:50:17.860 of my

01:50:18.100 favorite

01:50:18.360 people

01:50:19.620 um

01:50:20.220 I can't

01:50:25.120 believe you

01:50:25.340 text with

01:50:25.780 Marilyn

01:50:26.060 Manson

01:50:26.540 he's

01:50:27.400 like my

01:50:27.640 modern day

01:50:28.320 pen pal

01:50:28.840 we never

01:50:29.660 actually talk

01:50:30.500 on the

01:50:30.940 phone

01:50:31.200 we just

01:50:31.620 text

01:50:32.000 give him

01:50:34.220 my best

01:50:34.700 I will

01:50:35.320 Aaron

01:50:36.460 Lewis

01:50:36.720 thank you

01:50:37.740 thank you

01:50:38.480 I'm gonna go

01:50:38.820 bird shooting

01:50:39.180 with you

01:50:39.600 I look

01:50:40.420 forward to

01:50:40.940 it

01:50:41.120 I can't

01:50:41.420 wait

01:50:41.600 I can't

01:50:42.080 wait

01:50:42.220 to watch

01:50:42.580 you

01:50:42.760 watch

01:50:43.880 you

01:50:44.020 use

01:50:44.240 your

01:50:44.460 your

01:50:45.300 new

01:50:45.460 hammer

01:50:45.720 gun

01:50:46.000 I don't

01:50:48.100 know if

01:50:48.360 I'll be able

01:50:48.680 to use

01:50:48.900 it correctly

01:50:49.260 but we'll

01:50:49.580 find out

01:50:49.980 thank you

01:50:50.720 my pleasure

01:50:51.340 we want to

01:50:56.400 thank you

01:50:56.640 for watching

01:50:57.080 us on

01:50:57.440 Spotify

01:50:57.900 a company

01:50:58.440 that we

01:50:58.820 use

01:50:59.120 every day

01:50:59.700 we know

01:50:59.920 the people

01:51:00.180 who run

01:51:00.480 it

01:51:00.580 good people

01:51:01.300 while you're

01:51:02.300 here

01:51:02.580 do us

01:51:03.040 a favor

01:51:03.360 hit

01:51:03.820 follow

01:51:04.420 and tap

01:51:05.240 the bell

01:51:05.900 so you

01:51:06.200 never miss

01:51:06.640 an episode

01:51:07.060 we have

01:51:08.200 real

01:51:08.440 conversations

01:51:08.920 news

01:51:09.380 things that

01:51:09.820 actually matter

01:51:10.660 telling the truth

01:51:11.440 always

01:51:11.940 you will not

01:51:12.540 miss it

01:51:13.060 if you

01:51:13.640 follow us

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01:51:14.960 and hit the

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01:51:17.000 you

The Tucker Carlson Show - August 22, 2025

Aaron Lewis on Being Blacklisted from Radio & Why Record Labels Intentionally Promote Terrible Music

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