The Tucker Carlson Show

00:00:00.000 Hey, it's Tucker Carlson. Imagine being a sixth grade boy in the United States right now.

00:00:16.600 What are you hearing at school? What are they telling you on the internet?

00:00:20.420 Well, they're telling you to stop being yourself. Sit still. Stop joking. Suppress your aggression.

00:00:25.920 Share your feelings. Obey. Female qualities are virtuous. Masculine qualities are oppressive.

00:00:33.760 That's the message. In case it wasn't clear enough, schools around the country have removed

00:00:38.200 urinals from boys' bathrooms. The male body itself is shameful. Sit down when you pee like a good

00:00:44.640 little girl. Views like this are often called feminism or woke politics. But in fact, they

00:00:51.000 amount to mass conversion therapy, an attempt to change the fundamental nature of people.

00:00:57.180 Nothing like this has ever been attempted at scale. It's one of the most grotesque and destructive

00:01:02.660 experiments in human history. What would it be like to find yourself the subject of that experiment

00:01:08.420 as a boy trying to become a man during the Biden years? Well, you might kill yourself. Many have.

00:01:14.980 You might decide to reject your own manhood and embrace androgyny or even switch sexes.

00:01:20.360 Girls are better? Fine. I'll become one. Or more likely, you might simply withdraw into porn and weed

00:01:28.500 and video games and give up on your life before it's begun. You might retire at 19, a less dramatic form

00:01:35.340 of suicide. All around us, this is happening. Noticing it is forbidden, but that does not make it any less

00:01:42.080 real. So it's probably not surprising that Andrew Tate was the most googled man in the world last year.

00:01:48.080 He offers a different vision. Tate is a former professional kickboxer who about a decade ago

00:01:53.500 began posting advice to young men on social media. Tate's view is that men want respect above all.

00:02:00.080 It's how they're wired. In order to get respect, men must become worthy of it. They must become more

00:02:05.300 impressive. Wake up early. Work as hard as you can. Stay sober. Find God. Keep yourself physically fit.

00:02:12.680 Don't complain. That's his worldview. Earlier generations of Western leaders might have found

00:02:18.720 parts of Tate's message inspiring. Now it's seen as a threat. The media treated him like a criminal

00:02:24.580 up until the day he was officially classified as one. Just after Christmas last year, Tate and his

00:02:30.220 brother Tristan were arrested and thrown into prison in Romania, where they live. The Tates were held

00:02:35.080 without charges for three months, very likely with the encouragement of the British and American

00:02:39.500 governments. In June, they were charged with human trafficking. They're now under house arrest until

00:02:44.740 their trial. Are the Tates guilty of human trafficking? We're not their lawyers, but it's

00:02:50.720 worth noting that as of today, not a single woman has come forward to say that she was kidnapped or

00:02:55.660 imprisoned or moved across international borders against her will by Andrew or Tristan Tate.

00:03:01.440 It's also true that in some ways, the charges against the Tates seem inevitable, like they were always

00:03:06.600 going to happen. Accusing a man of a sex crime is the fastest possible way to discredit what he's

00:03:11.900 saying. Days after WikiLeaks revealed that the U.S. government had been spying on its allies and lying

00:03:18.040 about it, Julian Assange was arrested in London for rape. Nine years later, prosecutors dropped the case

00:03:24.980 against Assange for lack of evidence. So somehow that fact was not as widely covered. Is that what's

00:03:31.960 happening here? Again, we don't know. Jeffrey Epstein's dinner partners insist that Andrew Tate

00:03:37.620 is a pervert and a criminal. Maybe they're telling the truth. Either way, we think Tate's views about

00:03:43.760 men very much deserve a hearing. So we flew to Romania to talk to him. We're posting the entire

00:03:49.420 interview here on Twitter because we've been assured it will not be taken down for ideological reasons,

00:03:54.340 as so much of his content has been. The video is long, but if you can, take the time to watch it.

00:04:00.080 Make up your own mind about Andrew Tate. Here it is.

00:04:04.540 So what are you charged with?

00:04:06.540 That's a really good question. I'm charged with being the head of an organized criminal group,

00:04:10.560 which is in charge of recruiting girls to make TikTok videos to steal the money from the TikTok views.

00:04:20.380 Recruiting girls to make TikTok videos and stealing the money. So it's really a financial crime?

00:04:26.520 It looks that way. And it's very interesting because the girls who they've identified to add

00:04:32.260 to the file are saying that we're not victims of anything and this isn't true. But the state

00:04:37.560 believes it's true. And the state thinks that I, as a 35-year-old man, woke up. I was already

00:04:43.840 extremely financially successful. I was already a father. I was already very well known. I had no

00:04:48.120 financial motivation. I have no criminal record. It's not my personality profile. But I woke up the age

00:04:52.180 of 35 and decided to make girls do TikTok to enrich myself with the pennies that I would earn from TikTok

00:05:00.760 views. So in the United States, I think the belief is that you were charged with human trafficking.

00:05:07.760 Yeah, that's human trafficking because what you do is you force a girl to work against her will for

00:05:11.540 financial gain. That's human trafficking. And their justification for this is that girls do TikTok.

00:05:16.740 Some girls I know who they found who say they're not victims have TikTok accounts.

00:05:20.780 How do you force someone to do TikTok videos?

00:05:23.460 I guess the prosecutor is going to have to explain that, isn't he?

00:05:26.000 It's a very interesting scenario I'm in. And I'm inside of Romania. So I have to show a degree

00:05:30.020 of respect to the Romanian judicial system. And I have to show a degree of respect to the situation

00:05:34.680 I'm in. But the overall charge is that there's an organized criminal group. There's a group of us.

00:05:39.280 I'm the head of it. My brother is below me. And we use the lover boy method to convince women

00:05:47.320 to do TikTok videos to make money so that we can steal the TikTok money.

00:05:53.680 So there's no, just to be clear, you are not accused of pandering, of pimping, of forcing

00:05:58.900 women to have sex with anybody.

00:06:00.000 No, not forcing them to have sex, not restraining their movement, not stopping them from living

00:06:06.000 a full life. But the fact that we are somehow convincing them to have TikTok. Very interesting.

00:06:10.940 But there's no actual, I'm asking you this because I do think it's a widespread belief

00:06:18.100 that you were accused of pimping.

00:06:20.720 Yeah. No, that's nothing to do with any of this case. Absolutely nothing. And it's kind

00:06:23.740 of scary because the crime in itself of human trafficking is a unique one because they can

00:06:29.500 ignore the statement of the victim. So the girls have come forward and said, this is insane.

00:06:34.000 You've just picked us because we're near Andrew and we're his friends. But the whole idea of

00:06:37.800 the crime is they can say that she's under, she's brainwashed, right? She's under duress.

00:06:42.080 So you can ignore her statement. State says she's a victim, regardless of the fact that

00:06:45.700 she says she's not a victim. So it's very interesting because the difference between

00:06:50.160 sex and rape is consent, right? Right.

00:06:52.220 But they remove all of that. They're like, nope, you're a victim. No matter what you say,

00:06:55.500 we're deciding you're a victim. And they've chosen them. And of course, these girls do nothing

00:06:59.380 pornographic. They've never had sex with anyone, nothing to do with that. So they've picked TikTok.

00:07:02.980 So it's scary. Imagine you're a full grown man anywhere in the world today. They can find two girls who

00:07:07.520 have TikTok on their phone, which is every single female on the planet. And they can accuse you of

00:07:12.360 forcing them to take the TikTok money. And even if the girls say they didn't do that,

00:07:16.800 this isn't true, then you're still a, you're still a human trafficker.

00:07:19.320 But force, what does that consist of? Forcing someone to do something? Are they accusing you

00:07:24.740 of using violence or? No, they're accusing me. And this thing, they're accusing me of using the

00:07:28.440 lover boy method, coercing them by being nice.

00:07:30.960 Yes. And by the way, these charges presumably are public. So-

00:07:35.800 They're public. And this is extremely serious. But if you actually analyze the overall case against

00:07:40.520 me, they're saying that Andrew and his brother, by being nice men, convinced girls to have TikTok

00:07:47.200 accounts and then take the money. And it's very interesting because inside of the entire case file,

00:07:51.240 there's not a single financial transaction to us for money.

00:07:53.400 What are the penalties?

00:07:55.800 They're extremely severe. Five to 10 years in jail. And I've already served, coming up now,

00:08:02.760 seven months in a form of jail. They can only-

00:08:06.720 So you are essentially incarcerated right now.

00:08:08.780 Absolutely. I'm on house arrest. And that counts as jail. You can only be held six months without

00:08:13.480 charge. I was initially picked up, thrown in a cell without charge. And I think the intention of the

00:08:20.240 entire investigation at that point was to find the crime because they had very, very weak evidence.

00:08:25.780 They contacted 2,000 people who know me or knew me. They tried very hard to convince some female

00:08:31.660 somewhere to come forward and say something bad about me. The media machine, which works hands in

00:08:35.840 hands with the justice machine, as you know very well, did exactly that. In fact, they offered bribes

00:08:40.040 effectively. They'd call up ex-girlfriends and say, if you have anything bad to say about Andrew,

00:08:43.780 we can pay you $50,000 for this story. And they tried very hard. They didn't find any evidence of

00:08:49.040 anything. They then released me on house arrest. And then two days before the legal limit in which

00:08:54.840 they had to drop everything, they charged me with whatever they had from the beginning,

00:08:59.040 which is very little. And now we have to wait for the Romanian judicial system to analyze the file and

00:09:03.500 God willing, throw it away. How long did you spend in jail?

00:09:07.120 I was in jail for 92 days in a Romanian jail cell. What was that like?

00:09:11.040 It was certainly an interesting experience. I won't lie and say it was easy. It was certainly

00:09:18.560 very difficult. The uncertainty of it, it's a very uncertain situation to be picked up on just

00:09:23.900 before New Year's Eve and thrown in a cell without charge. And I'm asking different prison guards and

00:09:28.040 different prisoners, how long am I going to be here? One person was like, I've been here two years.

00:09:32.200 I was like, have you been charged? He goes, yeah, but I haven't gone to court yet.

00:09:35.000 Like everyone's been there for years. I thought I was going to be there for years. And it certainly takes a

00:09:38.580 mental toll on you. And, and I think jail is a different experience when you know you're

00:09:42.420 innocent. When there was a guy in there for murder, he's like, yeah, I murdered someone. I'm in jail.

00:09:46.860 You can kind of, your soul and your mind can accept the punishment for a crime. But when you've

00:09:51.900 actually done nothing wrong, I think jail is a lot harder. Did you know why you were there?

00:09:56.700 Not initially. So for about the first two weeks, I never actually got told in English what I was

00:10:03.160 accused of because I was arrested on December 29th. There's New Year's...

00:10:06.400 What were the circumstances of that?

00:10:07.720 Yeah. December 29th, 5 AM, the armed guards ran in this house.

00:10:12.720 They spent all day searching the entire house. They were very interested in electronics as most

00:10:16.600 federal agencies are. And then they put me, they took me that evening and said, we're going to go

00:10:21.720 and put you in jail for 24 hours. And after 24 hours, you see a judge and the judge will decide

00:10:26.140 if you stay in jail. And the judge decided I should stay in jail.

00:10:28.760 What did you do? I mean, did you make, who'd you call? I had a lawyer and my lawyer came and he said,

00:10:34.000 we need to analyze the case file. We need to see what they have against you.

00:10:36.280 You're being accused of human trafficking. It's like human trafficking. That's insane.

00:10:41.280 Who? When? What? I went to jail and then I was given all this paper in Romanian. I don't speak

00:10:47.780 Romanian, although I live here. And then I was waiting for the translation. So I think it's about

00:10:51.220 two weeks before I finally got the papers in English to understand why I was in a jail cell.

00:10:54.700 And then I really understood how insane the accusations were.

00:10:58.300 What is human trafficking?

00:10:59.980 Yeah. So the overall, my understanding of it, they're saying that human trafficking is when

00:11:05.000 you convince a woman to do something she doesn't want to do for financial gain.

00:11:08.380 And there's different methods you can do that. You can do that through force.

00:11:11.260 And you can also do that through emotional cohesion.

00:11:13.300 I think most people, just speaking from the American perspective, most people

00:11:17.380 believe that human trafficking is effectively slavery, selling human beings.

00:11:22.920 And that's what I believe as well. Absolutely. And this is the thing that's so interesting.

00:11:26.320 When you finally end up the enemy of the matrix and they use the legal system as a weapon to

00:11:31.340 punish you for having an opinion, you realize how subjective the law is, right? Because it can

00:11:36.320 be a weapon. When you have something subjective, you can just pick and choose. So if they sit and say,

00:11:40.540 ah, human trafficking is a woman doing something for financial gain against her will

00:11:45.060 via emotional coercion. Well, he knows these two girls, they have TikTok accounts.

00:11:49.760 Emotional coercion?

00:11:51.060 Convincing her. That's what I'm accused of because they have no proof of me doing anything wrong.

00:11:54.680 So they said, he's convinced these girls to do TikTok for money. The girls have said,

00:11:58.940 themselves have said, this is not true. And the state is denying their statement saying, no,

00:12:03.280 you're brainwashed. It is true. And I went to jail.

00:12:07.100 So how is the state? So the state is trying to coerce the women. So how is the state not

00:12:13.100 committing human trafficking by the same definition? Absolutely. It's very interesting. It's very

00:12:16.800 interesting that you can sit someone down and tell them they're a victim when they say they're

00:12:20.300 not a victim. You're a victim of being coerced. And we're going to try to coerce you into conceding

00:12:25.560 you're coerced. Exactly. It's a very interesting scenario. And, uh, okay. Yeah. And it's a very

00:12:31.780 interesting scenario. And I would, and it's up until this point, no judge has looked at the

00:12:38.360 evidence of the case. So up until this point, I've been to court a bunch of times, but the only

00:12:42.340 reason I was in court was to discuss my preventative detention. So under Romanian law, if you being

00:12:47.880 free can impede the investigation, you should stay in jail. So the judge agreed that, yeah, maybe if he's

00:12:55.260 free, he can damage this investigation because they're trying very hard to get something on this

00:12:59.040 guy. So I've done a bunch of jail time and now it just begins. The judge is going to look at the

00:13:03.080 case. And like I said, God willing, I still have enough faith in the Romanian judicial system that

00:13:06.800 she's going to look at this and go, this is not a crime. Or you're aware of the media coverage of

00:13:11.560 this, however. So you're in jail for 90 days or more and the rest of the world is talking about you. Do you

00:13:18.020 know what they're saying? They're saying very heinous things. And I would hate to come across as a

00:13:21.740 conspiracy theorist, Tucker, but I kind of have a feeling that this might be something to do with my

00:13:25.240 influence and an attempt to slander my name. Perhaps I'm crazy. But the fact that they've

00:13:29.040 chose such a heinous crime and they reported it so heavily and they won't shut up and keep

00:13:33.540 repeating basically a slander attack day after day after day. Also considering the fact that other

00:13:38.400 people who genuinely commit heinous crimes have far more favorable press coverage. But I don't want

00:13:43.460 you to think I'm a conspiracy theorist. Please, Tucker, I would hate for you to come here and call me

00:13:46.480 crazy. But something very strange about it. And I think the... What, when Jeffrey Epstein's friends

00:13:50.780 call you immoral? Yeah. The goal of it is certainly to slander my name. And I like to see it as

00:13:58.940 a litmus test. I like to see it as an intelligence test. Anybody who wakes up and looks at me

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00:15:48.480 So, but from the West, just to defend the average news consumer in the West, Andrew Tate,

00:15:59.200 kind of an outlaw, lives in some palace in Romania, wherever that is. And he's been,

00:16:07.280 and Romania sounds like the kind of place where human trafficking is like the main industry.

00:16:11.600 A lot of it happens here. That's what's so crazy about it, right? What's so crazy is if they really

00:16:15.760 want to find a human trafficker, I think they could probably do it quite easily.

00:16:19.200 But they managed to get me. That's certainly the perception. But it's one of those charges

00:16:24.880 that kind of sells itself. Oh, absolutely. And it doesn't matter if you're found guilty or not,

00:16:28.560 right? You're a human trafficker forever. But I do think that public consciousness is changing. I

00:16:33.040 think with things like, there's been some very large court cases recently involving some very famous

00:16:38.640 people in which women were caught lying, trying to slander men's names for rape and these kinds of

00:16:43.680 things. And I don't think people believe it anymore. But that scares me to a degree. Because

00:16:48.640 I think that the typical weapon, the standardized playbook is now failing. And I don't know what the

00:16:53.600 new playbook is going to be. It's almost like better the devil you know. You're too famous.

00:16:57.360 You're too successful. We don't like you. Call him a rapist or a human trafficker. Put him all over

00:17:00.640 the news. Slander his name. Try and wreck his life. Now that nobody believes it, what's the next move?

00:17:05.440 What are they going to try next? Wouldn't it just have been easier to commit like a massive financial crime and

00:17:11.600 defraud people of billions. Come up with like a fake cryptocurrency. Call it like, I don't know,

00:17:16.640 FTX or just give a name to it. And then steal billions and get your parents involved and buy

00:17:22.800 a bunch of real estate in the Bahamas. And then you'd be sort of a hero, right? Oh, absolutely.

00:17:27.760 And I would have certainly made a lot more money than TikTok because I don't think TikTok even

00:17:31.680 pays you for views. And if it certainly does, I never got a single transaction from it. So

00:17:36.080 it's a very interesting scenario. But if I was accused of a financial crime,

00:17:39.520 my name would not be slandered. No, well, of course not. You have the presumption of innocence.

00:17:43.280 So just back to the jail thing. So you're in with your brother.

00:17:46.720 At the beginning, I was not. But towards the end, I was. Yeah.

00:17:49.520 What did you do all day? That's a good question. I looked at the wall,

00:17:54.160 stared at the wall, smoked cigarettes, lots of push-ups, read the Quran.

00:17:59.760 You smoked cigarettes, did push-ups and read the Quran. Basically, yes. And certainly had some

00:18:05.600 introspective moments. Tried my best to get out. Tried my best to via my small phone calls,

00:18:12.160 understand what's happening in the outside world. Tried to make sure that the people I love and care

00:18:16.160 about are taken care of because I'm the man of my family. And I'm also the man of quite a large,

00:18:21.920 I wouldn't say empire, but life. And there's a whole lot of people who rely on me. You know,

00:18:25.520 you have staff and families, you have children and families feeling. Yeah.

00:18:28.720 So when you're plucked from that, it's kind of strange. You're in jail and you're concerned

00:18:33.200 for yourself, but your primary concerns are also all your duties as a man. I have duties as a man.

00:18:37.520 I don't want children to starve. We've got a whole tribe. I've got people to pay. So it was

00:18:41.760 very, very frustrating. Constantly trying to make sure everybody else was okay and feeling helpless.

00:18:47.200 That's what hurt me the most. I was trying to make sure everybody I love and care about was fine.

00:18:52.000 And I wasn't as powerful as I should have been. And that was very upsetting. And especially if they're

00:18:55.520 going to keep me there for years, I was having serious concerns about how I can feed the people

00:18:59.920 I love. Did you ever come to the edge at all? No, I certainly had some days I was less happy

00:19:07.760 than others, but I, I made sure that my mindset was built in a way that I could always be doing

00:19:12.960 something constructive. And also I think you get what you give in life. And if I ever felt particularly

00:19:18.000 sad on a day, I would try very hard to make other people happy because if I made other people smile,

00:19:22.320 I'd feel better. So even the dinner ladies or the prison guards, I'd try very hard just to

00:19:28.160 make people smile. I know it sounds silly. Some of the prison guards, some of the prison guards

00:19:31.680 were more open than others, but there was one, there was a couple of prison guards who were ice

00:19:35.040 cold, who didn't want to say a word to me. And I'm like, Hey bro, your hair looks amazing. And

00:19:39.680 you just stare at me like he wants, shut up. But, um, I just try my best to cheer people up,

00:19:44.240 to cheer myself up. And as a man, all you can do is just find the resolve to continue

00:19:48.320 doing the best you can in the current circumstance. So what were the other prisoners like?

00:19:54.000 I don't want to insult Romania in any way. And I love this country and I chose to live here,

00:19:57.920 but if I had to describe it for the people, for an American audience to understand,

00:20:03.200 I don't think Romania and a lot of these countries have the same kind of mental health

00:20:07.600 set up or the mental health support that a lot of Western nations have. So you end up in jail.

00:20:13.440 So I think a lot of, there was a lot of mental health problems inside the jail. So it was

00:20:16.880 very similar. It wasn't just a jail. There was also a lot of mental health problems in there,

00:20:20.720 which adds a new complexity and a new dimension to the suffering because there's just random

00:20:25.040 screaming and there's suicide and there's, it's certainly not a very nice place to be.

00:20:28.960 Oh, so it's, it's horrifying. Yeah. I don't want to go back.

00:20:34.800 You hear the phrase Romanian prison and it sounds tough. So it was what you would imagine.

00:20:39.280 It is. And, and when this process is over, there's a lot more I will say, but, um,

00:20:44.160 um, I will say the staff were very nice to me and I want to make this clear. I want to make it very

00:20:49.280 clear that all the staff in the jail were very professional and very nice to me.

00:20:53.520 I would almost say that they believed that was innocent and they understood that I didn't belong

00:20:57.760 there. There was a, there was a semi-apologetic vibe to the way I was treated by the guards.

00:21:03.840 If that makes sense. Yes. They understood very well. I don't think anybody, like I said,

00:21:08.000 with a functioning brain believes that me at the age of 35 decided to steal TikTok money and ruin my entire

00:21:12.800 life without financial motivation to girls who say they're not victims of anything. I don't think

00:21:17.120 anybody with a brain. Well, the fact that you're not accused of a sex crime or violence, which I

00:21:22.800 think most people don't really understand. Yeah. And they can look it up. Yeah. I mean,

00:21:26.000 but you're not actually accused of rape. Correct. Selling anyone. Correct. Pimping. Correct.

00:21:31.600 Okay. Um, that right there raises a lot of questions. Well, yeah. And, and, and this is the thing

00:21:37.600 that's so interesting because I'm accused of using a method of human trafficking called the lover boy method.

00:21:41.920 So how that would traditionally work is a man would meet a girl, become her boyfriend, take her to

00:21:48.000 another country, turn her into a prostitute, say, I love you. Like pimping. Of course.

00:21:53.680 But they're saying, because all my conversations with these girls are very nice. They're saying that

00:21:58.800 I use the lover boy method to convince them to do TikTok. And once again, I never made a penny from

00:22:02.240 TikTok and I have no interest in girls TikTok's accounts and I've never made any money from TikTok in

00:22:05.920 my life. So that raises the question. So that right there, I think, I mean, we can let people assess.

00:22:10.160 I'm not, you know, an expert on the Romanian legal code, but that's kind of not the impression that

00:22:15.040 most people have. And that's the media, and that's the media who have made that very, the media have

00:22:19.360 tried very hard to do that. And if I had to estimate, I think that the, the overall intention was just

00:22:24.160 to throw me in a cell, use the media machine to drum up something real. I think that's what the goal was.

00:22:30.800 So, but what's the, and I believe that, obviously. Yeah. One thing, I've never been to Romania before,

00:22:38.320 and one thing I'm struck by is the American presence here. Oh, it's massive.

00:22:41.360 Fully understand that. So there are three NATO bases here now. They're bustling because of the

00:22:46.000 war in Ukraine. Yeah. One's on the Black Sea. Yeah. Like below Crimea. So this is strategically

00:22:51.280 important, this country to NATO. Absolutely. And so this is a lot less far away than I realized.

00:22:58.560 It's much more American influenced. Oh, absolutely. Do you think that played a role?

00:23:02.160 Yeah. Well, I think, and I don't want to get this incorrect. I think it's the second or third

00:23:08.480 biggest US embassy in the world. The US embassy here looks like a prison. It's huge. They've got

00:23:12.720 a huge embassy here. And even during Ceausescu, during the communism days, Romania was an ally of

00:23:18.000 the West, even during communism. Yes. So yes. Ceausescu came to New York.

00:23:21.520 Yes, that's right. Yeah. So Romania and America have been very good friends for a very long time.

00:23:25.120 I have to be careful what I say, but it's certainly very interesting what's happened to me. The American

00:23:32.640 embassy were not particularly helpful. Let's put it that way. They weren't very interested in

00:23:36.640 me being locked up without charge. They didn't seem very interested in getting me out.

00:23:39.760 But you're an American citizen. Absolutely.

00:23:42.800 So you're an American passport holder. Correct.

00:23:46.080 So I think the average American believes, perhaps falsely, that if you're accused of a crime in a

00:23:50.960 foreign country, particularly a less developed country like Romania, you go to the US embassy

00:23:55.680 and someone takes an interest in your case just to make sure that your treatment falls within

00:24:00.480 accepted standards of justice. Yeah. They came to see me, but when I was asking them

00:24:07.280 what they can actually do about all of this, they weren't particularly helpful. I don't want to

00:24:13.680 peddle conspiracy theories and I've heard a lot of information, etc. But I wouldn't say they

00:24:20.640 sanctioned it. I don't know if they had to sanction it, but something they weren't particularly

00:24:24.640 interested in getting me out. But at least they came to see me more than once. I mean,

00:24:28.320 they kind of pretended to care. The UK embassy didn't even pretend to care. The UK embassy had,

00:24:33.680 the UK embassy was, I really think they enjoyed it. They didn't.

00:24:37.200 And you're a British subject as well. Correct. And this is the kind of thing,

00:24:40.400 and I want to say this here, that's kind of frustrating for me because Romania is my home

00:24:43.760 now for seven years, but I'm half British, half American originally. And when something like this

00:24:49.680 happens to you, you have this longing for home. You kind of want to go home. When you end up in

00:24:53.840 a jail in a country where, even though you've lived for a long time, you don't speak the language,

00:24:57.920 you don't understand the legal system. Going to court in a foreign language is far more intimidating

00:25:02.720 than in your own language. You don't have a clue what's being said. You don't understand how

00:25:06.880 anything works. And then you kind of have this longing for home, but I feel like my home countries

00:25:11.200 hate me and they hate me because of my message, which I believe to be a positive message. So you

00:25:15.440 kind of have this strange feeling of homelessness because it's like, well, if I go to the UK,

00:25:18.720 I believe they're going to attack me the same. If I go to America, I believe they're going to attack

00:25:21.920 me the same. So where do you go? It's kind of scary. Where do you go? Good question. We're gonna have

00:25:27.840 to see it. How did you wind up here? I moved to Romania. I came to visit a long time ago before

00:25:32.800 anybody ever visited Romania. I came to visit and I genuinely fell in love with the place. It truly

00:25:36.640 is a fantastic country. I love nature as an amazing nature. It's a very safe place. It has this

00:25:41.680 reputation of being dangerous. It's not dangerous. It's very safe. The people are very good. The people

00:25:45.440 are very conservative traditionally. It's almost like America was 20, 30 years ago. It's gorgeous.

00:25:51.600 They have a bunch of nice restaurants and plenty of things to do. And I've never had a problem here

00:25:55.600 in any way. Never had any issue with the law or with the other side, criminals, nothing until this

00:26:01.840 came out of nowhere. So it's been very strange. So what is it about your message, do you think,

00:26:09.120 that infuriates certain people? Well, my message is traditional masculinity. My message is to stand

00:26:15.760 up and say what you mean and mean what you say. And even going to the gym nowadays is an act of

00:26:19.600 defiance. Because when you have a man who's built with any degree of principle, you say no to things.

00:26:25.040 And I think if I have to analyze my message and why I'm so disliked by the people who dislike me,

00:26:29.040 it's not the things I'm saying. It's the fact that if you adhere to my principles and you adhere to

00:26:33.520 the things I say, you end up being the kind of person who will resist certain ideas. You say no.

00:26:38.480 What kind of man never says no? Name a man who never says no. Men say no, right? Men wake up and say,

00:26:44.640 no, I don't think that should be done this way. No, my children will not be taught that.

00:26:47.920 It's the father's primary job. Absolutely. So when you say to men, listen, you're allowed to have an

00:26:53.520 opinion. You're allowed to have standards. You're allowed to have boundaries and barriers. You're allowed to

00:26:57.680 get up and become important and work hard and try hard and become the kind of man who can't be

00:27:01.520 controlled. Then you're seen as an enemy. And I, especially with the massive influence I've gained,

00:27:07.520 I think they look at me and go, ah, he's, he's helping men resist the slave programming.

00:27:11.440 We don't need him around. We need to empty their brains so we can inject the slave programming and

00:27:16.640 convince men to be eunuchs. Because once you're eunuched, then you're not a threat.

00:27:19.840 I think I buy that because your message, I, I'm not the world's expert on your message,

00:27:27.520 but I've seen a lot of it and it's not explicitly political actually.

00:27:30.880 No, it's not political at all. And their original attack before this matrix attack is a weaponized

00:27:36.320 virtue, which is what they usually do. There's no genuine virtue inside of these people. They

00:27:39.920 weaponize virtue. They find a virtue and they turn it into a bullet and they shoot at you. I'm sure you

00:27:44.240 know very well. I've heard. Yeah. I was a misogynist for the longest time just for saying

00:27:50.160 that men should have standards. If you, if you tell a man he could have standards in a relationship

00:27:54.480 in any way, you're a misogynist. It's actually very interesting because-

00:27:57.280 What does that mean to have standards in a relationship?

00:27:59.200 But this is the thing that's so interesting about it because they've gendered the argument

00:28:01.760 when I never did. I said, as a man, you shouldn't have a girlfriend who is a liar and a cheater.

00:28:07.040 And you also shouldn't have male friends who are liars and cheaters. You shouldn't be around

00:28:10.160 dishonest people, male or female. And they gendered it and said, ah, he's a misogynist.

00:28:16.240 He's saying that men should only act this way with women, et cetera. I said that men should have

00:28:20.960 standards and you should have protocols that you're prepared to accept and you should have

00:28:23.840 hard parameters. And if a woman doesn't want to adhere to those parameters, that's her decision.

00:28:27.840 And it's her prerogative, but you don't have to stay with her. Why should you?

00:28:30.800 What's wrong with that? Well, that's teaching men to say no. They don't want men to say no.

00:28:35.600 So are you arguing that it's better to be with a virtuous woman?

00:28:38.720 I think so. Yes. I know that's crazy. No, I'm serious.

00:28:40.960 I am, Tucker. I don't want to, I don't want to.

00:28:43.600 It seems like good advice. I don't want to come across as extreme,

00:28:46.800 but yes, I am. And what's actually funny is I really believe most of the things I'm saying

00:28:50.880 were accepted by absolutely everybody 15 years ago, 10 years ago. And now it's public enemy number one.

00:28:56.960 And it's because of the mass influence I have. At one point, I became the most Googled man on earth

00:29:01.600 at one point. And it's a scary situation I'm in.

00:29:04.880 And if you're arguing that it's really important for a man to find a good woman,

00:29:09.040 a decent woman, an honest woman, that's the truest thing that's ever been said.

00:29:14.080 Absolutely. I mean, that's the most important thing any man can do. I mean,

00:29:16.880 I can just tell you firsthand. Oh, thank you very much.

00:29:18.880 Being married 32 years. That's the most important thing. And you think saying that

00:29:22.720 angered people? Absolutely. Because I'm arguing the only way to do that is via masculine excellence.

00:29:27.200 I'm saying in the world we live in today, it's hyper competitive. And if you want to be the kind of man

00:29:31.120 that has the choice of women to choose a good one, you need to be an excellent man. It's no longer

00:29:35.920 acceptable for you to just be an average Joe or below average. You have to get up and you have

00:29:40.080 to work hard and you have to be smart and interesting and you have to be charismatic and make some money

00:29:44.640 and be in good shape and you have to try very hard. And unfortunately for them, if you follow that

00:29:49.920 path as a man and you become successful in those realms, you end up being the kind of person who resists

00:29:54.480 enslavement. You become the kind of person who wakes up and says,

00:29:57.680 no, I don't believe in that. That doesn't make sense to me. I can't imagine a better

00:30:00.880 message than that. If you want a good society. So then you have to argue and sit and say,

00:30:05.200 do these people want a happy functioning society or do they want something else?

00:30:09.600 What do you think? I think that I would never kill myself.

00:30:15.520 Just throwing that out there. And I also think that when you want to conquer a society,

00:30:22.480 you kill the military age males. That's what you do. That's the first thing they've ever done.

00:30:26.000 They walk in and all the men have to have their throats cut. They can't perhaps do that,

00:30:29.920 but they can certainly cut your balls off and then you can't resist. And I think there's certainly

00:30:35.200 a movement to ensure that there's very little resistance left inside of the number one demographic,

00:30:40.960 which is required to resist oppression, which are military age males. And they don't want those

00:30:45.760 kind of people waking up with any kind of self-respect or standards or to say, no,

00:30:49.920 I don't accept this. I do not need a ninth injection. They don't want that. They want you to sit and say,

00:30:54.720 hmm, I don't need it, but the news said so. So, oh well.

00:30:59.120 So in the one interview that you and I did, you had a line that I've been thinking about ever since.

00:31:04.720 I thought it was so interesting. I never thought of it before. You said

00:31:08.480 that a lot of people went along with the vax and that you didn't judge them because facts change.

00:31:14.000 But now that we know that a lot of what we were told was wrong and some of it was a lie,

00:31:18.080 it is a requirement of your own dignity, of your own self-respect to say so.

00:31:24.800 So completely. And people should apologize. I really do believe. And I have nothing against

00:31:29.120 the people who fell for the propaganda, fell for the programming.

00:31:30.960 Yes. Yes, I agree.

00:31:32.080 Fine. But you should wake up and say, I was fooled. I've learned my lesson. I will not be fooled again.

00:31:38.000 But if you were fooled by the MSM and took the injection and you continue to be fooled and you've

00:31:42.080 not self-reflected and you've not realized that they lied to you the entire way and you now believe

00:31:45.760 the new bunch of lies that are all over the television, then there's something wrong with you.

00:31:49.040 Or you don't care that you were lied to.

00:31:50.720 You don't care that you were lied to because

00:31:53.520 I think a lot of this is actually genuinely cowardice.

00:31:56.320 I think it's a very easy worldview. The life is easier if you accept the news tells the truth.

00:32:02.160 Yes. Everything they want me to believe is true. Everything's nice and simple.

00:32:06.000 Good guys, bad guys. Doop-de-doop-de-do. And if you want to actually wake up, it takes a degree of

00:32:10.880 bravery because then you have to destroy your entire worldview. Everything you've ever understood and

00:32:14.320 everything you're told. And you have to really look at the world and go, oh, this is a mess.

00:32:18.720 And that takes bravery. And once again, that's why they don't want men to be brave. They want you to

00:32:23.040 sit there and go, oh, it's easier if just, you know, CNN said, so it must be true. And it's cowardice.

00:32:29.120 And they're trying to instill cowardice in all of us. That's what they're trying very hard to do.

00:32:34.560 And I think even just me as a person, the people who hate me, my detractors who dislike me so much,

00:32:40.240 even if I say nothing, I just turn up big, bald, strong, fast car. You know, it's just me. I'm like

00:32:48.400 the enemy to them because I symbolize men who don't comply and not don't comply in a negative

00:32:56.960 law-breaking way, but don't comply in a, if we don't agree with that or we don't see common sense

00:33:01.200 in that, we're going to politely decline. And that's simply not allowed.

00:33:04.320 What's it like to have the prospect of prison hanging over you?

00:33:09.040 I think that I like to believe that this is a test from God. I like to believe that if you become the

00:33:17.360 most Googled man in the world for saying that you have mental resilience, that God is going to make

00:33:22.560 sure you don't have that degree of fame without testing you. I like to believe that God comes along

00:33:27.520 and says, yes, I've allowed you to become the top G. We're going to see if you really are the top G.

00:33:32.720 I believe that's how the world works. It's certainly intimidating, especially knowing you're

00:33:36.960 completely innocent, but I believe it's a test and I believe it's my job to pass the test for my

00:33:42.080 ancestors and for people watching over me and for God. And I think I have to do the absolute best I

00:33:46.080 can possibly do in the scenario and the circumstance, regardless of whether I win or lose. I still

00:33:49.680 believe I'm going to win because I've seen the case file and I've seen that no laws have been broken.

00:33:53.760 But even in the very unfortunate circumstance that this matrix attacks goes deep enough to throw me

00:33:57.840 into a jail cell, I think I should handle it like a man. I think I should stay and

00:34:02.560 finish the process and I should walk with my head held high and suffer as much as I need to suffer

00:34:08.800 to stick by my convictions and know that I'm an innocent person. And

00:34:13.600 I refuse to break. I refuse to cry. I refuse to be depressed about it. I'm going to wake up and

00:34:19.360 I'm going to smile regardless. And regardless of what happens to me, I want everyone to know that

00:34:25.120 one, I would never kill myself. And two, I think that as a man, there's always going to be a degree

00:34:28.800 of pain and suffering in your journey. I don't think you're ever going to become a successful man

00:34:32.560 or be good at being a man without pain and suffering. And there's many times in my life

00:34:38.400 where something terrible happened to me. And at the time, if I could change it, I would have.

00:34:41.200 But retrospectively, you kind of look back and go, you know what? That was formulative for me.

00:34:44.960 That's right.

00:34:45.520 That is what God decided I needed to become who I became. So all of the pain and all the suffering

00:34:51.200 I've ever gone through in my life ended up, in the end, building me into the person I am,

00:34:54.400 and I'm proud of who I am. So if God decides I need to go back to a Romanian dungeon for however

00:34:58.640 many days, then all I can do is accept it and accept his plan and accept that it's going to

00:35:02.720 make me a better person. So you see the hand of God in your life?

00:35:06.080 Absolutely. I think that he is the best of planners. And like I said, if you retrospectively

00:35:14.720 analyze all the times in life you wish you could have changed things, he knew better. And I'm going

00:35:20.560 to have to accept that. When did you conclude that? I think I guess I always kind of knew. I

00:35:25.840 was atheistic for a while when I was younger. But as you get older, you start to look at the world

00:35:30.480 and understand that the thing for me was actually, I guess, a scientific principle. It was Newton's

00:35:35.760 law of equal and opposite force. If there is evil in the world, and I'd like to think we both agree

00:35:40.640 there certainly is, there has to be an equal and opposite force, which is good. And I would like to

00:35:44.560 think of that as God. Even the idea of God as a notion, even just as a concept, if that idea of

00:35:51.600 God resists evil, then God is real. If you have two islands, you have two people, let's say a ship

00:35:58.080 crashes, and you have two people who swim to two different islands, and one island they're atheists,

00:36:03.280 savages, and they rip you apart. And the other island you get there, and they believe in God,

00:36:06.960 and they believe they're not allowed to kill you. Even just their idea of God, God saved your life.

00:36:10.880 So I think even just the concept of God in and of itself, if enough people believe in

00:36:14.880 it makes them do good, then God must be true. And that's the equal and opposite force to the evil

00:36:18.000 of the world. And this is how I view it. So I don't see how anybody with a conscience cannot believe

00:36:23.520 in God anymore. That's such a profoundly different worldview from the one that we're presented with,

00:36:31.280 I think. Do you think that's maybe the division in the West between people who see those forces at work

00:36:38.400 and those who don't? I think the West is actually split between people who think and people who

00:36:44.400 don't think at all. There's no such thing as these two opposing worldviews. I think people believe

00:36:51.040 there's worldview A and worldview B. I disagree with that. I think there's worldview A, the good guys,

00:36:56.880 which are primarily people who do believe in God, do have parameters, do believe in standards,

00:37:01.040 do believe in self-respect, do know how to say no. And there's worldview B, which changes day by day

00:37:08.080 based on what they're told, which means they have no real worldview at all. They just repeat.

00:37:12.800 And they have no standards and they have no parameters. There's nothing you can tell them

00:37:15.920 that will make them wake up and go, that's wrong, because they have no inherent morality.

00:37:21.040 So you can literally, you can say bestiality is accepted and encouraged now. It's good for you

00:37:26.480 because for climate change. And they'll sit there and go, oh, for climate change. Oh, well,

00:37:30.880 off we go. And they'll just do it. So I think you have a camp of people who think and you have a camp

00:37:37.520 of people who repeat. And I don't think there's actually the opposing side to the good. I don't

00:37:42.960 think function as a thinking populace at all. I think they simply repeat.

00:37:49.040 It feels like there's, I mean, the conflict between those two groups is getting more intense.

00:37:54.240 It's certainly getting more intense. And I, it was interesting for me because, and I want to

00:38:02.640 be an optimist, but I lost so much faith in humanity during COVID. I really, if you would have told me

00:38:09.440 how COVID would have gone down before COVID, I'd say no way. We're not that bad. You know, like I thought

00:38:16.480 the people aren't that dumb. But when I experienced COVID, it's actually scary. You see how the Nazis

00:38:22.800 managed to do what they did. You see how they managed to put people in concentration camps. You

00:38:26.160 see it. And I had a very unique view of COVID because in the first days of COVID, when people

00:38:32.160 were falling over in China and the Italian hospitals were overrun at the height of the panic,

00:38:37.600 when most people believed, because it was the very beginning, early stages, my brother and I had a very

00:38:42.560 logical conversation and said, we're two military aged men in very good physical condition. If we die of

00:38:46.480 this, the world's over. If it can kill us, it's zombie apocalypse. So why are we going to live

00:38:51.440 in fear? So we found the only two countries that were open, which were Sweden and Belarus.

00:38:56.960 We had just been to Belarus. This is before the Ukraine war. We'd just been there. We decided to

00:39:01.440 try Sweden. So for the first three months of COVID during the height of lockdowns, when,

00:39:05.920 when Florida was closed, when it was absolute. I remember. Yeah. When it was the craziest lockdowns

00:39:10.720 globally, me and Tristan are in Sweden in absolute freedom. They had no restrictions, no masks,

00:39:16.320 no vaccine passports, no social distancing, nightclubs are full, lunch, restaurants are open,

00:39:21.920 perfectly complete normal society. Nobody talks about this anymore. Nobody talks about, wait,

00:39:26.640 Sweden never did a thing. Everything functioned perfectly fine the entire time. And they don't

00:39:32.160 have it. Where's their mass? Where's their illness of severe, their winter of severe illness and death?

00:39:36.880 Yes. They never had one. It's a cold country. Never had one.

00:39:40.160 So we were living in Sweden, living completely normal lives, seeing everyone, seeing the internet

00:39:45.520 and seeing this insanity. And we're like, well, surely if we just put up a few videos of us

00:39:49.200 partying in Sweden and nightclubs, this will wake people up. People didn't want to, people

00:39:54.080 ignored their own eyes. That's the scariest thing about everything is that they can get to a level

00:39:58.480 where with the media machine, where people will genuinely ignore their own eyes. I don't understand how

00:40:04.080 you can get people so brainwashed that they will see that the sky is blue. And then they'll watch that the

00:40:08.640 sky is green. And then they'll look at it again and go, sky's green. It's crazy to me,

00:40:14.480 but COVID proves they can do that. And that's why the war is getting so intense because the

00:40:20.800 principled people are saying, how can you still believe in the things that you're saying? Here

00:40:26.160 is all the logical empirical evidence that that is a lie. But these people are ideologically brainwashed

00:40:31.680 and they don't want to take enough. They don't have the bravery it takes to wake up and accept

00:40:36.480 that they're being lied to. So they'd rather just to the end of time, repeat what they're told.

00:40:40.960 And it becomes more and more intense as it becomes more and more ridiculous.

00:40:45.200 That's so scary. As it becomes more and more ridiculous, the more intense both sides get.

00:40:48.960 Yes.

00:40:49.520 Right. So what the future holds, I'm not entirely sure. But I like to believe even my current charges,

00:40:55.120 I found solace when I was in jail, that the thinking people are looking at this going,

00:41:00.320 something about this doesn't seem right. Well, I mean, it is a little bracing. I mean,

00:41:05.120 when I discovered, I mean, I was sympathetic to you already. But you know, man's accused of human

00:41:11.360 trafficking. It's worth finding out what he's accused of. And when I discovered that there was no

00:41:15.840 like actual human trafficking charge. That's not actually human trafficking. I don't care what

00:41:21.040 you call it. You weren't buying it, even accused of buying and selling anyone. Then the next

00:41:25.920 conclusion you inevitably reach is they don't like the guy. They don't like his views. It's fine.

00:41:31.360 They're going to send him to jail for that. That does seem like an escalation.

00:41:36.080 Absolutely. But if they don't like your views and you're inspiring millions of people to resist

00:41:41.760 slave programming, you become a threat. Like they disgust me.

00:41:44.320 But you can't send a guy to jail because you disagree with him.

00:41:47.360 You shouldn't. But even before I went to jail, the members of parliament in the UK

00:41:51.920 were talking about me and what a dangerous role model I am for young boys. So they launched this

00:41:57.920 initiative inside of British schools to ban me. My name can't be said inside of any British school.

00:42:02.240 And members of parliament were standing up in parliament saying, Andrew Tate is dangerous. He's

00:42:07.920 encouraging young boys to have misogynistic views. Because I'm literally telling young men to go to

00:42:11.680 the gym and to stand up for themselves and believe in themselves and believe in something.

00:42:16.640 And by extension, you look at some of the sexual education books these children are being given,

00:42:22.000 which I believe at an age nine, I don't think a child needs to learn about

00:42:25.760 anal sex or any of these things.

00:42:27.040 Probably not.

00:42:27.600 Yeah, probably not. So they're pushing that to the children, but I'm banned.

00:42:31.120 Well, they're also pushing weed and video games on boys.

00:42:40.880 Oh, completely. And you can listen to rap music about killing people all day long. And there's a

00:42:44.560 whole, and Lil Nas, he can, he can have sex with the devil in his music videos. That's fine.

00:42:49.280 But I'm dangerous for saying, go to the gym. And once I realized what was scary to me is,

00:42:53.760 I said this to my brother, I said, once the parliament's discussing you,

00:42:56.960 you're basically considered a national security threat at this point. You're a threat to national

00:43:02.000 security at that level. And then all bets are off, right?

00:43:05.200 What about the UK? So the UK has become more authoritarian than anywhere in the Persian Gulf.

00:43:11.520 Correct.

00:43:11.840 How did that happen?

00:43:13.600 Yeah. And it's, like I said, it's very interesting because people still,

00:43:18.800 the people in Camp B who don't think, a lot of them believe that the law is fair.

00:43:26.160 I've had people say to me, oh yeah, what they're doing to you is garbage.

00:43:29.440 You need a lawyer. So yeah, I do need a lawyer. And I do have a lawyer. Thank you.

00:43:33.200 But it's not that simple, unfortunately. You know, it's a very, the law is very subjective.

00:43:38.800 And if they want to attack you with it, they're going to do a very good job of attacking you with

00:43:42.640 it. And, and, and that's what the UK does. The UK have these laws, which are extremely subjective

00:43:48.000 and they can use it as a weapon to basically silence anyone they decide.

00:43:51.600 But why? I mean, what the, I mean, England is the birthplace of free speech,

00:43:56.880 of habeas corpus, of kind of framework of liberal democracy that we thought we believed in.

00:44:02.560 Yep.

00:44:03.200 And now it's a country where people are arrested for praying.

00:44:06.720 What happened?

00:44:08.320 Good question. And there's a saying that I heard, and I don't know who said it, but he said that a

00:44:13.840 sick country adopts laws like a dying man will try medicine. And I think that the UK is failing in

00:44:21.120 real time. If you look at it in any metric, whether it's living standards, whether it's crime rate,

00:44:26.480 any, any metric you can measure the success of a country by, it's fallen off the cliff. It's

00:44:30.960 becoming more and more expensive to live there. The education system has gone down the pan. London

00:44:35.520 is the stabbing capital of the world. You're not safe to leave your house. So their answer to this

00:44:39.840 is just more and more and more laws. And unfortunately, as they do that, they're not even intelligent

00:44:43.920 enough to actually attack the people who are doing genuinely bad to the world. They just make more

00:44:47.760 and more authoritarian laws and they end up using them to attack the people that the government

00:44:51.280 doesn't like. And I ended up being one of them. And I think Europe in general has problems. If you

00:44:56.080 look at France, as we speak, I think it's on fire, isn't it? Most of it? It is. Yeah. So they have

00:45:02.800 issues and their answer, what is it? What's a government's solution to anything? Law. What can a

00:45:08.800 government do? No matter what- But they're not laws that are aimed at

00:45:13.200 fixing the problem that's right in front of them. No, they're laws aimed at talk, at fixing the person

00:45:18.560 who's talking about the problems. So why don't you get rid of the guy who tells everybody? Isn't

00:45:23.680 that easier? Tucker? Why fix any of this? If we just shut him up, they won't know. No,

00:45:30.160 but that's like responding to a heat wave by breaking your thermometer. Completely right.

00:45:36.080 That's the plan. Plan one is to break the thermometer. We might deal with the heat wave a

00:45:40.880 bit later. Get air conditioning. No, let's break the thermometer. For now, there's too many people

00:45:45.600 talking about the heat wave. So let's just break that. And then later on, maybe when we have time,

00:45:50.240 we'll do something about the actual issue. It does seem like a lot of this is an effort not to

00:45:57.360 talk about the thing, the real thing in Europe anyway, which is migration. Yeah. And the UK,

00:46:03.840 formerly known as England, and France have both been completely changed by people from other

00:46:09.920 countries. Yep. And I'm sure I've added good things too. I mean, I'm not, you know, but they've

00:46:16.000 changed them. And in general, they're not better countries. And like, why can't anyone admit that?

00:46:19.520 But this is what's really interesting to me about what's happening, because we're talking about

00:46:22.560 masculinity and men who say no and men who stand up. But there has to be balance, right? Everywhere in

00:46:28.400 the world, there has to be power balances. If there's not a balance in power, there's going to be a vacuum

00:46:32.400 and that's going to be filled. If you neuter the native population of men, if you destroy their

00:46:37.680 mentality to resist, if you tell them that every single thing about the masculine is wrong and you

00:46:42.000 basically feminize and unicate them, turn them into eunuchs, and then you import high testosterone

00:46:47.440 men from the third world who don't believe any of this garbage, who grew up in a society where they

00:46:51.520 understand the only way to succeed is to be a fearsome predator to a degree. What do you think

00:46:55.600 is going to happen? Like who's supposed to protect the sanctity of these nations and these settlements

00:47:03.680 and these towns and villages? The police? No. In general, I would argue that it's the masculine

00:47:09.680 essence that can be detected by the people who arrive. I guarantee if you were to put a bunch of

00:47:16.800 these migrants in Sarajevo or Moscow, they'd behave themselves.

00:47:20.480 Oh yeah.

00:47:21.040 I have a feeling they'd just look around and go, not today. But when you neuter the native populace,

00:47:28.480 then it's like, well, there's a power vacuum. And when there's a power vacuum, what do we expect to

00:47:32.320 happen? What are the French going to do about it? What's your average Englishman going to do about

00:47:38.000 it? Nothing. Nothing. And that's the thing. And that makes you wonder, is this purposeful?

00:47:43.280 Like why? These two things are, these two actions of neutering the native populace and importing

00:47:49.360 these high testosterone third worlders are so at odds with each other. Is this purposeful? I'm not sure,

00:47:55.840 but has anyone considered this? So yeah, it's interesting because you talk about-

00:47:59.760 Well, these are huge and intentional trends. And so, I mean, they're historically transformative

00:48:05.120 trends. They're a big deal. So they're probably not happening by accident, right? There's got to

00:48:09.760 be some intent. How could there not be?

00:48:11.440 Yeah, that's right. And how do they expect all of this to end? And this is exactly what's happening

00:48:15.760 with migration. The problem with migration specifically is that there's no native masculine

00:48:20.240 populace to enforce any degree of culture or boundary or parameter. And like I said, I would argue the

00:48:25.200 point. And I, and I've been to Sarajevo and I've been to Moscow. I've been to these places and I've

00:48:29.360 seen there's a whole bunch of migration and everybody seems to just behave a little bit

00:48:32.400 differently. And I think that's because people understand. That men, that men live here?

00:48:37.200 That men live here. If, if you turn up in someone's house and their house is pristine,

00:48:42.480 you're probably going to take your cup and you're going to go put it in the kitchen. But if you turn

00:48:45.520 up in somebody's house and it's a fucking mess and nobody respects the house and nobody cares,

00:48:50.400 and the man is drugged out of his mind, half asleep on the couch, what are you going to do with your

00:48:54.240 cup? You're going to leave it there. You don't give a shit. If you turn up to the Western world

00:48:57.360 and look at it, then you're going to hit on his wife. Absolutely. So what, what do we expect to

00:49:00.720 happen in these scenarios? Right? And, and it is purposeful and it is scary that even me just

00:49:06.720 telling men to go to the gym is seen as an act of defiance to the point where I have to be punished.

00:49:10.560 I must go to jail. I must be silenced. Thermometer must be broken. If at the end of all of this,

00:49:16.800 no matter what happens, do you plan to stay in Romania? I love Romania. I love this country.

00:49:22.240 And if I am found not guilty, I will stay in Romania. Yeah. I will still stay here.

00:49:26.720 I don't believe in running away. I also believe, and perhaps this is...

00:49:30.560 Yeah. I didn't even want to ask you that because you've got a legal case pending,

00:49:33.600 but I mean, presumably you're rich enough to run away when you haven't.

00:49:35.840 Correct. I'm not going anywhere. I think if I was anywhere in the Western world,

00:49:39.440 this would have happened to me. I don't think this is Romania's fault. Let's put it that way.

00:49:43.120 I don't think this is Romania's fault. I think if I resided in Switzerland or France

00:49:46.560 or Italy, the same thing would have happened. Knowing what I know. I think it was going to

00:49:50.160 happen to me regardless. And I think I do have a large amount of sympathy,

00:49:54.640 especially amongst the Romanian population. I get thousands of messages a day from Romanians

00:50:00.160 apologizing to me. I think the people here actually like me.

00:50:03.600 My waiter at lunch yesterday is one of them. He wanted you to know, yeah.

00:50:06.640 Oh, amazing. This is what I mean. Everyone understands what's happening.

00:50:10.000 My problem is not with Romania. I don't hold any personal grudges against Romania.

00:50:13.120 I think that this matrix attack was going to come to me.

00:50:15.680 What is the matrix?

00:50:19.040 Good question. I guess some Americans call it the deep state,

00:50:22.560 but I like to look at it in a more global way. When I say the matrix, I think there are

00:50:26.800 certain agendas which are being pushed. I think the media machine and the judicial

00:50:30.960 systems of the world work together hand in hand. I think the goal is to control people's minds to

00:50:36.880 a point where they don't discuss anything that's important. The reason I use the matrix is because

00:50:41.760 I've watched that movie a few times and it has so many similarities to the-

00:50:45.280 Have you seen the movie?

00:50:46.000 No.

00:50:46.240 You've never seen the movie The Matrix?

00:50:47.520 No, I don't watch any movie. Tucker.

00:50:49.840 I don't want to talk about it on camera. No, I'm very dyslexic and it's hard for me to watch video.

00:50:54.640 Got it.

00:50:55.040 Honestly.

00:50:55.440 Understood. But there's so many similarities and the basic premise is that humans' minds are

00:51:00.240 controlled and put inside of a false reality so that their body heat can be manifested for the

00:51:04.640 machines. And I don't think it's much different to reality. Our minds are controlled. We're put in a false

00:51:09.760 version of reality. We're told things aren't true. We're arguing over things that don't matter.

00:51:13.440 We're observing a false version of events. And the goal of it is just to distract us long enough for

00:51:18.080 our bodies to be used for the machines, the soulless. And I think it's pretty similar. Pretty similar,

00:51:22.960 striking similarities. And even then there's a bunch of other similarities which are difficult

00:51:26.560 for me to explain if you haven't watched a movie, but there are agents inside of The Matrix.

00:51:31.120 And the idea of the agent, the purpose of the agent is to make sure that nobody understands how

00:51:35.600 The Matrix really works and to wake anybody's mind up. They want to keep you asleep. And any person

00:51:40.720 can become an agent at any time. If they're not unplugged, if their mind is not free, they can

00:51:44.480 become an agent and their job is to keep you asleep. And you see agents all the time. COVID

00:51:49.280 awoken me to agents. When I would sit and talk to somebody and they seemed perfectly rational and

00:51:53.760 normal until I mentioned COVID. And then they'd fully change. No, it's dangerous. No, what do you mean?

00:52:00.320 What do you mean? Are you crazy? My grandma got sick. And they became an agent instantly and started

00:52:05.280 repeating the news to me. And I was like, your grandma got sick. How old is she? 97?

00:52:10.960 Interesting. Oh, I better lock myself in my house then. Dumbass. So agents exist and The Matrix exists.

00:52:19.600 And I think most people's version of the world is a false one. The idea and the world that most people

00:52:26.560 have in their mind and how society functions and how all these things function, I genuinely believe

00:52:31.200 is completely false. I think they've all been lied to. I don't think anybody understands how any of

00:52:34.800 the world works. And I try and use some very simple, you know, very simple analogies to wake people up.

00:52:42.480 I said to one of my friends once, I said, if me and you could play video games

00:52:48.160 for $10,000 and you could cheat, would you cheat?

00:52:52.400 He goes, well, no. I was like, if I was whooping your ass and it was 10 grand a game and you could

00:52:59.120 cheat, would you cheat? He goes, yeah. I was like, all right. So you think, you accept that people

00:53:02.960 cheat to win in a video game for a menial amount of money. You think they're not gonna cheat for

00:53:07.440 something that matters? Yeah. I think they're not gonna cheat for something important.

00:53:11.920 You understand what I'm saying? Oh yeah. Yeah. So, um, how about to get the most important job

00:53:16.640 in the world, president of the United States? I would never kill myself.

00:53:19.040 I mean, people kill each other over insurance fraud. You don't think, right. Yeah.

00:53:25.680 Yeah. You know, so when you actually understand how the world really works,

00:53:29.920 you know what's really interesting? I remember, uh, there was this big military coup in,

00:53:34.720 was it Myanmar or Burma? One of these, there was a big military coup like a year ago or something.

00:53:39.680 And nobody really cared. They mentioned it on the news a little bit. And I looked at it and I looked into

00:53:43.680 it. And they were talking about how the two political parties were almost 50-50. And then

00:53:50.160 in the nineties, something changed. And now one political party just smokes the other one. And

00:53:54.800 the military took over to restore democracy and all this stuff. It was very interesting to vote in

00:53:59.440 machines they used. Really interesting, uh, something to look into. A lot of countries like that.

00:54:05.200 Philippines. Also true. Why do you think, um, support for the war in Ukraine, support for Ukraine's side in the

00:54:12.880 war against Russia, support for a war against Russia in the West, is kind of the bottom line

00:54:19.040 issue for the people who run the US government and for the American media. Why? I mean, I guess you

00:54:24.480 could argue about it, but there isn't an argument about it in the United States. There's a position

00:54:30.080 and anyone who doesn't hold it is attacked and punished. Why? Why is that so important?

00:54:35.600 Well, the first thing I think we should all do is I think we should all give Putin credit for

00:54:39.280 curing COVID. Right? Because when his invasion happened, COVID went away.

00:54:45.280 I hadn't thought about that. Think about it. It's almost to the day.

00:54:49.120 So we have to give him some credit at least for doing that. He may be the bad guy of the world,

00:54:52.720 but at least he cured COVID for everybody nearly instantly. Fair. Thank you for, thank you,

00:54:56.960 President Putin. Um, yeah. I, up until this point, never really commented too heavily on

00:55:03.520 politics. Yes. But I understand very well. I like to believe what's happening with Ukraine and Russia.

00:55:11.360 And what I will say to the people who are watching this at home is that if you are naive enough to

00:55:17.520 believe that there are good guys and bad guys in wars, and it's as simple as good and bad, and that

00:55:23.120 the bad guys are crazy and the good guys want freedom, then you need to do a little bit more

00:55:28.720 investigation into what's really happening. And when you look at the vested interest of any country

00:55:34.880 or any person- Can I just ask you to pause and just comment? That's the truest thing,

00:55:38.480 what you just said. And anyone who doesn't understand that should shut the fuck up.

00:55:43.920 And I mean it. Having seen war, anyone who's telling you that it's Churchill versus Hitler

00:55:50.720 is an idiot. Completely. Well, I'll give you an example. When my father was still alive,

00:55:54.160 when my father- Excuse me. Yeah, no, it's true. When my father was still alive,

00:55:58.880 my father died six or seven years ago. I was a lot younger. The war in Afghanistan was going on.

00:56:03.520 He died six or seven years ago. How old was he? 56. Oh gosh. Yeah, he died. But the war in Afghanistan

00:56:09.760 was going on. And I remember asking my dad saying, why do the Taliban even fight and resist the American

00:56:15.200 war machine? They don't stand a chance. Like, why are these terrorists even fighting against the American

00:56:20.000 war machine? And my dad said, they're fighting for their way of life. They want their wife,

00:56:25.920 and they want their children, and they want their society and their language, and they don't want

00:56:29.600 pride flags, and they don't want American bullshit, and they don't want to be told what to do.

00:56:33.120 And they're fighting to be a culture and be a people which is independent in and of itself.

00:56:36.720 Like, they're not the bad guys you think they are. They're people who are like, why are you here?

00:56:40.000 What do you want? We don't agree with that. That's against our holy book. Fuck off.

00:56:44.720 Right? So even there's no such thing as good and bad in any war. And who is your father?

00:56:51.200 My father was a chess master. He worked for the CIA when he was a linguist for the CIA.

00:56:57.200 And then he was American. He was discharged for a story I won't tell. But he was a chess master.

00:57:06.240 And it's very interesting. I encourage people to look at his Twitter. He still has Twitter,

00:57:12.080 at Tate Terrific. And everything he was talking about 11 years ago is so important now.

00:57:19.120 11 years ago, no one cared about... We had the Don Bass in 2014. People cared. People cared a bit.

00:57:25.200 But he was literally... He predicted the future to... You want to see how chess players can see the

00:57:29.280 future? Read his Twitter. Everything from LGBTQ, why they need your kids because they can't have their

00:57:34.560 own, to the war that's coming and how Europe's going to have an energy crisis, to the letter. It's all on

00:57:39.600 his Twitter. It's amazing to read. It's like you could tell the future. 10 years ago, no one talked

00:57:42.560 about any of this stuff. Did he live in the US? Yes. Yeah, he lived in America. Fascinating.

00:57:47.520 Yeah, it's crazy. But he was telling me about a lot of this stuff, even when I was a lot younger. And

00:57:51.840 as we said, there's no good guys and bad guys. But when you have a vested interest in something,

00:57:57.680 I think that people are relatively simple. You're talking about why the American

00:58:01.440 government has such a vested interest in this war. Which is not good for America.

00:58:05.360 Which is not good for America. So is it... Well, we can say it's for money or we can say it's for

00:58:09.360 power. What else would it be for? Is it really for freedom and democracy? Well, I think that's

00:58:14.720 already been destroyed by Zelensky, hasn't it? So what is it for if it's not for money and power?

00:58:20.480 And then you say, well, who's the money and the power going to? These are logical conversations.

00:58:26.480 It's a very logical thought process. I agree.

00:58:28.960 You know, wouldn't it be interesting to say, okay, I woke up. I'm an American. I would never kill

00:58:33.520 myself. I woke up. I'm an American. Why does America care? Well, I guess it's for money or

00:58:39.760 power. There's no other reason. Okay. Well, America wants to be a rich, powerful country. That's fine.

00:58:44.320 Is the money and power going to America? Or is it going to a select few individuals?

00:58:50.400 Are those select individuals interested in me in my life? Do they care about benefiting me? Do I need to

00:58:55.680 support the power grab of these select few individuals? Is that going to be a smart move

00:58:59.280 for me to make, for me to have the best possible human experience?

00:59:02.720 This is a very logical thought process. People don't seem to think anymore. They believe that

00:59:08.240 there's a good guy and there's a bad guy. And one guy's, one team's completely good. And one team's

00:59:12.960 completely bad. One team's crazy. They often use the word crazy because to be completely bad,

00:59:18.160 you have to be crazy, right? So you're crazy. He's crazy. Just for no reason.

00:59:21.520 Reason. Reasonless. Insanity. I don't know if you saw Lukashenko with the BBC. Did you ever see

00:59:28.000 that interview? No. Oh, brother. Please watch it. The way he destroys the BBC. I thought I did the

00:59:33.440 best job, but I take second place. Amazing. But yeah. And you just have to be critically thinking.

00:59:42.000 And then after you're critically thinking, you have to be brave enough. And this is the real pandemic

00:59:47.120 of the world is cowardice. You have to be brave enough to look around you and realize, ah,

00:59:51.200 everything was a trick. Everything was a lie. But why not be a coward? I mean,

00:59:54.480 it's just a lot easier, right? Well, it used to be. This is the thing that's interesting. I would

00:59:58.640 actually argue in the 1950s and 60s, if you were to agree with every single narrative and obey every

01:00:02.480 single law and do exactly what you were supposed to do and pay your taxes, etc., you'd at least get

01:00:07.040 a wife who respected you. You'd at least have children who would go to school without being

01:00:10.880 indoctrinated to a degree. You could have a nice house. You could have a pickup truck. You could have a pretty good

01:00:15.840 life if you just followed the rules. Yes. I don't think that's true anymore. I think that if you were

01:00:23.120 a man especially, and this is what I talk about. I talk about masculine issues. If you're a man who was born

01:00:27.760 and you decide to do exactly as you're told, you're going to end up depressed, in debt, working a job

01:00:34.000 that you hate, with a wife who doesn't respect you, with kids who don't listen to you, in a house you don't own,

01:00:39.520 until she leads you. And then you contemplate suicide a while. And maybe you might find some

01:00:44.400 purpose towards the end, enough to survive and pay your taxes, and then you're gone.

01:00:49.200 I don't think a man who just follows the programming is going to find any happiness.

01:00:54.000 But they don't care. Why would they? They have no interest in masculine happiness.

01:00:57.600 There's another thing that's very interesting. They talk about men's mental health all the time,

01:01:00.560 especially in the UK. I'm not sure about America, but in the UK they had this big drive for men's

01:01:04.000 mental health, saying that men commit more suicides. A lot more. A lot more. Because it's hard to be a man.

01:01:10.080 We commit more suicides. We're more depressed. We have all these mental health problems. I come along,

01:01:14.480 I genuinely get thousands of emails a day saying I'm helping men's mental health. But no. You can't

01:01:19.520 help it the way Andrew wants. You can't tell them to go to the gym and stand up for themselves and

01:01:22.640 have pride. What kind of man is going to have a solid mentality and not have mental health issues

01:01:27.040 if he has no pride? That's part of being a man. Part of being a man is proud of yourself. If you wake

01:01:31.440 up and you're not proud of who you are and how you look and the things you say, how are you ever going

01:01:34.480 to have a solid mentality? So when I teach things that genuinely help men's mental health,

01:01:39.680 that's outlawed. No, you're not allowed to do that. Instead, you have to take our version,

01:01:43.360 which is to pretend to care about men's mental health, but not give a shit, give them a life

01:01:47.200 they know they're not going to enjoy, pay taxes and die. And men are the backbone.

01:01:51.680 And medicate them.

01:01:52.160 And medicate them. Medicate them long enough to keep working. The same way as we medicate farm

01:01:55.840 animals. A bunch of injections. Yeah. Just keep them alive long enough to get the milk. Milk's gone.

01:02:01.600 Chopped the head off. Boom. They need to put you in prison. They're trying. Yeah. I can see why.

01:02:09.760 They're trying. And it's scary. A lot of people, but then what do I do? Do I just shut up? No.

01:02:17.200 You don't think so? No, you can't shut up. I mean, because in the end, your self-respect,

01:02:23.600 your dignity is the only thing. That's right. And this is what people don't understand. People say,

01:02:29.440 Andrew, why are you fighting this war? And they don't understand that war is certain.

01:02:33.200 You either fight war against injustice and you fight war against the things you know that are

01:02:36.800 wrong and you feel good inside of yourself, or you accept the slave programming and fight a war

01:02:40.320 with your own mind. You have to fight something. I can shut up and believe what I'm told in the news,

01:02:45.280 but then I won't. Why am I so unhappy all the time? Why am I depressed? Why does my life suck?

01:02:49.760 Why does my woman ignore me? Why do my children not respect me? You're fighting a war. Then you're

01:02:53.600 fighting a war with your own mind. I'd rather have all of me on side and fight against what I know is

01:02:59.040 genuinely evil. You can't escape the battle. The battle is here for all of us. So I've made my

01:03:04.640 decision and that's why I can't be quiet because you just said I would lose my self-respect. I'd

01:03:08.160 lose my dignity and I don't think I can function that way as a man. And I don't think any man should

01:03:12.800 be able to function without self-respect and dignity. The reason men died on the Titanic was

01:03:16.720 for self-respect and dignity. They went into the icy cold water and died because they would feel

01:03:20.960 honorless if they jumped on the boat and left the women to die. That's right. So when you have

01:03:25.600 self-respect and dignity, you have a hard parameter and you'll do things that which are deemed crazy

01:03:29.600 or insane because you believe in them and you stick up for yourself. And that's why they don't

01:03:32.880 want men to have self-respect and dignity. I'd rather be a free man in your grave.

01:03:35.840 Absolutely. So I can't be quiet and I'm going to say what I believe is true.

01:03:40.240 And I genuinely believe I'm helping the world. I think that any young man who is a follower of mine,

01:03:46.960 I will argue there's no influencer on the planet besides me who is genuinely benefiting their life. I know

01:03:52.880 you're not big on the internet. I look at these other streamers and these other influencers. They

01:03:56.080 play video games all day. They smoke weed on stream. They talk garbage. It's a bunch of drama back and

01:04:01.760 forth like girls. I'm the only influencer or streamer who's genuinely talking about making

01:04:06.240 money because you need to have money to escape the matrix. It's very hard to resist enslavement when

01:04:09.600 you have to pay the bills. Getting physically strong because a strong body is a strong mind.

01:04:14.000 Standing up for yourself. Self-motivation. All these things. I'm talking about genuinely positive things.

01:04:18.560 Very few people are. And I think that is an extremely important message that needs to be

01:04:22.720 told. And I'm not going to stop doing it because I know I'm genuinely helping the world. And

01:04:27.120 they're going to try and punish me for it for the rest of my life. I think this is just beginning.

01:04:31.200 And I think when I beat this case, which I believe I will be, I think something else is going to come.

01:04:37.120 And it's kind of scary because I am a little bit afraid and a little bit intimidated by the

01:04:43.440 incompetence of my enemy because their standardized playbook is now failing in real time. The standardized

01:04:48.320 playbook is the media attack, the lie. And it's not working anymore. And it got me a little bit

01:04:54.240 worried about what the next move is. You used to just be able to lie about a guy over the news and

01:04:57.920 you win, right? But now it's like, shut up. So now what? I don't know. And that's what's kind of scary

01:05:05.440 in my scenario because nobody's going to believe any of the crap they print about me. Nobody believes it.

01:05:09.280 Nobody believes it. Whenever I do an interview with the matrix media, nobody believes they have to

01:05:13.440 turn the comments off because everyone in the comments are just ripping them apart.

01:05:16.880 Well, you do seem very sad on the verge of killing yourself. Are you?

01:05:20.000 Absolutely not really not. I never would. And that's what you said that.

01:05:24.560 I have to keep saying it. I have to keep saying it because it's scary, right?

01:05:29.360 But I believe you get three lives. I think they cancel you initially.

01:05:33.040 And then when that fails, they try and put you in jail without a reason. And if that fails,

01:05:37.360 there's only one option left after that. That's right.

01:05:39.360 Right. So I'm in a very scary scenario. But I guess the same as the men on the Titanic just

01:05:44.720 couldn't get on the lifeboat. I just can't stop saying what I believe to be true. If a young man

01:05:49.680 comes to me and says he's depressed, I'm going to tell him how to become a kind of man who's proud

01:05:53.120 of himself. And if that makes him the kind of person that resists slave and slave programming,

01:05:58.000 I'm always going to be public enemy number one.

01:06:01.520 You've said depression isn't real or it's not as the way we describe depression isn't

01:06:08.080 accurate. What do you think of depression?

01:06:10.000 When I say depression isn't real, that really upset the world, especially the liberals,

01:06:14.800 because they all live on medication, right? When I say depression isn't real, I'm saying that because

01:06:19.600 I don't believe in things that can take away power from me. If I believed in depression,

01:06:23.520 I would have been depressed in jail. But I can't be depressed if I don't believe in it.

01:06:27.600 If you don't believe in ghosts, how can you be haunted? You have two people in a haunted house.

01:06:31.760 One believes in ghosts, one doesn't. There's a knock in the night. One wakes up, calls an exorcist,

01:06:37.760 is terrified, looks for a ghost. The other guy doesn't believe in ghosts, knock in the night,

01:06:41.840 goes back to sleep. It's the belief in the ghost that gives it the power.

01:06:47.360 If I don't believe in depression, I believe in feeling depressed. Sure, we're humans,

01:06:52.480 we have emotions. Sometimes we feel depressed, sometimes we feel happy. I don't believe in the

01:06:56.640 idea of becoming a depressed person who has depression. I don't believe in that. I don't

01:07:01.840 think that's possible for me. So if I don't believe in it, how can it happen? I don't believe

01:07:06.160 in depression. So why would I not adopt the mindset that makes me the most capable predator I can

01:07:10.720 possibly be? Why not adopt the mindset that makes me as competent and as fearsome as possible?

01:07:14.720 If you have to install software in your own mind, why would I not install software that makes me

01:07:19.760 capable of not only driving a Bugatti and flying on private jets, but sitting in a Romanian dungeon

01:07:24.080 covered in cockroaches? I need to be able to do all of it. So why would I believe in something

01:07:28.000 that made me incapable? I don't believe in depression because I think that even the belief

01:07:32.640 in and of itself, when you feel depressed, you'll start to consider maybe I have depression. Then you

01:07:38.000 go see a psychiatrist who tells you you have depression and they want you on pills. It's the

01:07:41.840 belief that goes down the spiral. If I feel sad, I go, I'm depressed today. I'll be fine tomorrow.

01:07:45.280 So why I suspect you're right, or what you're saying is pointing toward truth. That's my personal view.

01:07:52.320 But even if I disagree with you, I would, I don't. Okay. I disagree with you. Why is that

01:07:57.760 so offensive? What you just said? Well, that's what's interesting. Because when I said depression

01:08:01.040 wasn't real, the number of people who would attack me defending depression, this is why I didn't

01:08:07.200 understand. You say depression isn't real, but depression has ruined my life and it's super real

01:08:11.200 and it's ruined my life and I lost my marriage. I'm like, if I told you it wasn't real, you should

01:08:16.080 be coming to me saying, tell me how it's not real. Please help me with my depression. Why are you trying to

01:08:20.880 convince me that it's real? Why are you sticking up for it? Why are you defending depression?

01:08:26.400 And why would I adopt the thinking of someone who's sad? Why would I, you're going to convince

01:08:32.240 me to take your worldview. You just told me your wife left you, you're fat and you want to kill

01:08:36.560 yourself. And you want me to sit here and go with my perfect life and go, you know what? I want to

01:08:42.640 think like this guy. You're at your mind. I don't believe in it. And because I don't believe in it,

01:08:48.160 it's made me the kind of person who can't become depressed. And the reason they don't like me

01:08:52.480 attacking that is because depression is a fantastic way to subdue a population.

01:08:56.880 Right? If everybody's depressed, it's hard to have a revolution. You're depressed.

01:09:01.280 Oh, they've locked us all in our houses. I don't want to go outside anyway. I'm sad.

01:09:06.080 Right? So depression is a fantastic tool of population control. They want, they have no

01:09:11.040 problem with you being depressed. They have a problem with you being the opposite, principled

01:09:14.960 and energetic. No, you don't want principled, energetic people. That's a problem. A bunch

01:09:19.120 of depressed people. Easy. If you had to invade a country, would you rather the opposing army be

01:09:24.880 principled and energetic or depressed? I'll tell you, I would not want to be invaded by a cheerful army.

01:09:29.920 Absolutely. They're having too much fun. Right? You want them all to be depressed.

01:09:34.800 So a morose army is easier to defeat. I agree. Absolutely. So depression is a defended idea.

01:09:40.880 You're not allowed to even talk about it. You're not allowed to help people get out of it. Right?

01:09:44.000 They like the idea of a depressed population. And this is what I say to people. Now, I'm not stupid.

01:09:47.840 I understand like PTSD is real. I understand mental health is real. I'm not saying that. But I say,

01:09:52.400 if you're an 18 year old boy or 18 year old man, and your life is pretty much okay,

01:09:57.120 bacteria didn't steal your eyesight, which could have happened. You never had a car crash and lost

01:10:01.600 both of your legs, which could have happened. You're actually very fortunate. And you wake up

01:10:05.280 and you say, I'm depressed. I think you're an idiot. I don't think you're depressed. I think you've

01:10:08.720 been psyops. I think you feel a little bit of depression and you can fix that by changing your

01:10:14.720 life. I think if you became rich and strong and smart and successful and you worked hard and you

01:10:19.040 dedicated yourself and you were motivated and you tried your very, very best to become excellent,

01:10:23.600 you probably wouldn't feel depressed anymore, which means it's not a disease, is it?

01:10:27.600 So how, so why would you, the only reason you're even saying you have depression is because you

01:10:30.560 believe in it. So you're arguing for cause and effect. You're saying if you live a certain way,

01:10:34.880 you're going to feel a certain way. Absolutely. And I also would argue that I think we've

01:10:38.320 evolutionarily, even though I do believe in God, I think that we've designed ourselves and the human

01:10:43.280 has grown into a way where if you feel depressed or sad, I think that's a fantastic trigger or a warning

01:10:47.920 signal to do something. If you were to say to me, Andrew, you have to do, you have to complete this

01:10:52.960 monumental task. You have to conquer the world. I would say, okay, but I need a, I need a emotional

01:11:01.280 motivation to do that. I need to be unhappy having not completed the task. You know, I need to be

01:11:06.080 uncomfortable, right? If you're uncomfortable being out of shape, you'll get in shape. If you're happy

01:11:12.160 being out of shape, then you're just going to stay out of shape, right? So if you feel a degree of

01:11:15.680 uncomfortableness inside of your mind, I think it's just your mind telling you that something

01:11:18.640 about your life needs to change. You need to get up and change something. Guys would say to me,

01:11:23.040 I'm depressed because I'm fat and I have no girlfriend. And I'd say, no, you have no girlfriend

01:11:30.080 and you're fat and that's why you're depressed. If you go change those two things, you'd probably be

01:11:34.480 surprised that your disease goes away. I had another guy say he was going to kill himself. I said,

01:11:38.720 listen, it's back when I used to reply to my emails when I was smaller. I said,

01:11:42.480 make me a promise, get a six pack first. Of beer? I said, get a six pack first, get in fantastic

01:11:49.760 shape and then do whatever you want. Didn't want to kill himself once he's in fantastic.

01:11:53.280 So he did it? Yeah. I have the before and after I put him on Twitter. Kind of interesting that,

01:11:57.760 isn't it? So how are we going to say we have this disease, which is cause and effect? How are we

01:12:02.000 going to have, we say we have this disease where there's something wrong with you as a man,

01:12:05.360 you have a disease because your life sucks. I mean, I don't think that's true. I think that your life

01:12:11.040 just sucks and you should change it. And another thing I also preach, and this is another thing

01:12:14.400 that's very important. I also think as a man, because life as a man is pain and suffering.

01:12:18.880 And when I say that, because you're never going to be a good man or good at being a man without

01:12:23.280 pain and suffering, you're going to have to go through a bunch of shit and have a terrible life

01:12:27.600 to become a good man. I think you should embrace that and accept it. And I think that the correct

01:12:32.800 mental model for men to have is a degree of stoicism and not to be too concerned with even how they feel.

01:12:37.680 If I woke up today happy, if I woke up today happy, I would have done this interview with you.

01:12:43.360 If I woke up today sad, I would have done this interview with you. What's the difference? Why put

01:12:48.720 so much importance on my emotion if certain things must be done? I must work. I must train. I must see

01:12:53.920 Tucker Carlson. I must resist the matrix. I've got things to do. So why are we going to sit around

01:12:59.120 and talk about how I feel if it doesn't even affect how I act? And as a man, it shouldn't because

01:13:03.520 there's too much to do. And the masculine world is hyper-competitive. This is another

01:13:08.320 thing most people don't understand. It's hyper-competitive out here. All the women

01:13:12.400 want a few men at the top. You don't want a Ferrari to drive fast. You want a Ferrari

01:13:16.800 because other men want a Ferrari and can't have one. It's hyper-competitive. So if you're competing

01:13:20.400 against every other man for every dollar you make, every girl you see, the house you live in,

01:13:24.400 the car you drive, the life you live, you're not going to be able to compete with the person who

01:13:29.840 performs regardless of how they feel if you only compete when you feel like competing.

01:13:35.200 Right? Because there's men like me out there who will be sad every day and out-compete you

01:13:38.720 regardless. I don't care how I feel. I will still win. And that's the kind of mindset you need to

01:13:43.440 adopt. So I don't want no man... You've got a job to do. Stop whining. Go to work.

01:13:47.360 Completely. I agree. Completely. So when men say, oh, but I don't, I feel sad. Who cares? The world

01:13:53.600 doesn't care. All the men who are out here to destroy you and take your girl don't care. So why are you,

01:13:58.880 why do you care? Like the only, the person who should care least is you. You're the only person

01:14:03.920 who wakes up every day who should have a genuine vested interest in improving your life. Nobody

01:14:07.920 else wakes up and wants to improve your life. Only you. So if nobody else cares about how you feel,

01:14:11.760 why do you care? So I, my argument also for depression is you're depressed. Fine. Have you

01:14:18.080 trained today? Well, that doesn't change what you should do with your life. Depressed or not. And I

01:14:23.760 don't say this because I'm an eternally happy person. I say this because I've experienced all ranges of

01:14:28.240 human emotion. I was in a Romanian jail cell with cockroaches crawling all over me as I slept.

01:14:33.520 I never missed a day of training. I wouldn't say I was particularly happy, but pushups must be done.

01:14:38.640 You're very close to your brother. Correct. And you were locked away for part of that with him. And

01:14:50.160 this, did you have fun at all with him? Yes. I, I do think there's something inside of men. Whereas if

01:14:58.560 you're with your boys or you're with your group of men, there's something inside of us. Totally. And it

01:15:03.120 allows you to make the absolute best of the worst situations. Maybe that's a evolution from war.

01:15:07.920 You know, all the men went to war and you saw all this pain and suffering and you saw heads,

01:15:12.800 people decapitated and you're injured, but then you sit around the campfire and you're laughing.

01:15:16.960 You're laughing. That's right. It's something inside of us. It's like a coping mechanism when

01:15:20.000 you're around men. So when me and him were together, no matter how bad the scenario or no matter what they

01:15:23.600 tried to do to us, part of us would just look at each other like cigarette and you find joy in that.

01:15:30.560 And yeah, there's definitely, and that's another thing I think a lot of men are lacking. A lot of

01:15:34.000 men are missing is a masculine support network. I think buddies, you know, you, you talk to a guy

01:15:39.840 and say, what was the highlight of your life? What was the best time of your life? And they'll say,

01:15:42.480 ah, college football. It's not about the football. It's about the team. Yeah. You know? And I think a

01:15:47.520 lot of that's destroyed as well, because also when you, it's interesting how everything interconnects.

01:15:52.400 When you destroy honor and principle and the masculine essence inside of men, well, now as a man,

01:15:58.320 it's very hard to have friends. I wouldn't want to have a male friend who had no principles,

01:16:02.160 no honors and didn't work hard and was always crying about being sad. What do I want to hang

01:16:07.040 around with him for? He's a loser. Right? So then your support network's destroyed. And I think that

01:16:13.200 men have always needed that since the dawn of time. And I think that's gone, but they don't have

01:16:16.720 friends. Men, especially middle-aged men have no friends. Absolutely. Because they've been told that

01:16:21.040 to give them all away and do as the wife says, and then she left him. No wonder he wants to kill himself.

01:16:26.240 Wouldn't you? No wonder he's depressed. It sounds like the worst existence ever. And now we're living

01:16:30.160 in a world now, especially where everything is hyper-competitive, especially the sexual marketplace.

01:16:34.560 Like if you're a 52 year old, overweight, average income, no fame dude, and you have to find a girl,

01:16:44.000 it's going to be pretty difficult to find a good one. It's going to be very hard. So we're like,

01:16:48.880 of course he's lonely. And his kids don't respect him. They're busy. Like, of course he's sad.

01:16:54.320 Like, it's actually heartbreaking to discuss. It is heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking.

01:16:57.680 But then how do you prevent that happening? Well, then you need to be a man of honor and

01:17:00.800 principle and make sure that you keep your support networks and make sure that your woman does respect

01:17:04.480 you. And a woman's going to respect you when she sees other men respect you. Yes.

01:17:08.000 And they're only going to respect you if you respect yourself. But to respect yourself,

01:17:11.440 you have to be the kind of person who says no. What do you think of porn?

01:17:16.160 There's been some statistics. There's been some studies done. Most men or less men are having sex than ever

01:17:20.960 before. I've seen that. Yeah. And that's that. Well, that's an extension of the fact that masculine

01:17:25.600 virtue is being destroyed. That's the thing that's interesting about all these things. They psyop,

01:17:29.680 especially men, they say, listen, women want a feminist man. Women want a man with no moral

01:17:35.360 principle who would make sure that there's a conversation about who should fight the burglar

01:17:40.960 when your house is broken into. Because equal opportunities, equal rights, of course. Don't, you know,

01:17:46.160 don't presume just because you're a man that you should defend her physically. Of course not.

01:17:50.080 That makes you a bigot and a misogynist. So they convince men to adopt these virtues in ways. And

01:17:56.000 of course, women, by and large, dislike them for it. So now, as men's, as masculinities plummeted,

01:18:02.800 a whole bunch of men are simply not having sex anymore. And then they become addicted to porn,

01:18:05.760 which is cucking, effectively. Two people are having sex and you're just watching it.

01:18:10.320 And it's, and it's become a, yeah. Good point. I mean, and it's become a pandemic, right?

01:18:16.960 So men are replacing genuine sexual relationships with just the computer screen and porn. And it's

01:18:22.800 becoming a very, very big problem. And that's also exasperated by the fact that I think the

01:18:27.120 sexual marketplace has become globalized. This is the thing I say to young men. A lot of men come to

01:18:31.840 me with problems. And my only answer to them is masculine excellence. I say that in the world we live in

01:18:37.840 today, being a normal man or below normal is going to be terrible. You have to be an exceptional man

01:18:45.600 because the sexual marketplace, especially, even if you just want to find a wife, is globalized.

01:18:49.920 If you, in 1955, if you met the hot girl in the Nebraskan town, she was the hot girl in the

01:18:56.240 Nebraskan town. If you meet her today, she's being offered to go to Courcheval and go skiing in France.

01:19:02.640 And she's being offered to fly to Dubai. And there's millionaires who can just fly her

01:19:07.440 anywhere and give her anything she wants. And who are you? Right? It's getting harder and harder

01:19:13.440 as a man to even find the most basic human function of reproduction. Even to just find a

01:19:20.080 woman you can reproduce with. It's becoming more and more difficult. You also couple that with the fact

01:19:25.440 that they've destroyed morality in women also. So when you destroy the morality in men and you destroy

01:19:30.720 how a man should act, and then you destroy how a woman should act, you're both going in the opposite

01:19:34.880 direction. Most women out there are very happy to share a man who's just rich and famous,

01:19:39.280 and they don't care. Right? So you're the normal guy. You know, there's this rich, famous guy with

01:19:45.360 30 girls. That's 29 dudes who are lonely. And they end up watching porn. And if you have a porn addiction

01:19:51.360 or you have a problem with porn, you have a problem with yourself. Because I guarantee if you're the kind

01:19:55.040 of man you're supposed to be, you would have no time for that. And you wouldn't need it. I can confirm

01:20:00.720 that's absolutely or not only the case. Yeah. Yeah. So the fact you even need porn shows there's a

01:20:05.280 problem with you as a man. Because if you were the kind of man you could be, and I genuinely believe

01:20:10.240 that any man can become anything, then you'd have unlimited sexual options and you would have no

01:20:14.720 interest in that. And I do want to make this clear to the world because there's a bit of a misconception

01:20:19.040 about my story. My father was in the military and then he left to become a professional chess player. He was a

01:20:23.920 traveling chess player. You don't make money with that. My mother and father broke up at age nine.

01:20:28.800 We moved to England purely because you get more help from the state. I was raised on welfare in

01:20:33.520 Marsh Farm, which is the worst area of the worst town, Luton, with the highest crime rate. I went

01:20:38.320 to a school with a 4% pass rate, single mother household effectively. Started from absolutely nothing,

01:20:45.120 became a kickboxing world champion. And your mother was English? English, correct.

01:20:49.120 So I started at the absolute lowest echelon of life and I would like to consider myself pretty

01:20:53.200 somewhere near the top now. I've been through absolutely every stage. So when I say to men,

01:20:57.600 you can become anything you want. And my answer to you is masculine excellence. There's no other

01:21:01.440 answer. I can't tell you how to rig the game and cheat the game. If we're all racing a race and I have

01:21:06.240 a Ferrari and you have a Nissan, I mean, sure you can get a bit better at driving, but you're probably

01:21:10.320 going to lose. You have to get a better character to play this game of life. So that's why I preach

01:21:16.400 masculine excellence because for many of the world's problems today, porn, sexual access,

01:21:22.080 being respected by your peers, making sure that your wife's going to stay with you

01:21:26.320 after the children are born for a very long time, being happy, anything, it all comes down to who

01:21:32.320 you are as a man. A lot of the answer, the only answer is masculine excellence. There's nothing

01:21:35.920 you can do besides hard work, accept the trauma and pain and suffering and work harder than everyone

01:21:42.080 else around you worked. And that's why porn's a problem. So I will genuinely say to any man out

01:21:46.640 there who finds himself loading up that website, go take a look in the mirror and realize why no

01:21:50.320 one wants to fuck you. If you're there and I said this to guys before, if you were a girl

01:21:56.960 with all the choices she has, would you choose you? Think about it. And if you're honest with

01:22:03.280 yourself, a lot of these guys, if they look in the mirror and go, you know what? No, I wouldn't

01:22:07.760 choose me. Work out why and do something about it. Absolutely not your self accountability. This is

01:22:12.080 something that's also missing. I take accountability for everything in my life. Even going to jail,

01:22:17.200 although it was unfair, although it's a matrix attack, although it's garbage, it was my fault.

01:22:22.160 I sat there and go, what did I do wrong? How can I learn from this? Where is my part to play in this?

01:22:28.000 What did I do? Because my actions are what I have the most control over. I have self-accountability

01:22:33.360 for everything. If a woman doesn't want to sleep with me, I don't sit and say, ah,

01:22:37.280 women are this way. Society's that way. I just sit and say, okay, why? What can I change?

01:22:43.840 So any man who's loading up porn needs to go have a long conversation in the mirror and realize that

01:22:47.600 he's not desirable or as desirable as he should be or could be. I come from absolutely nothing.

01:22:52.000 I'm mixed race. My father was black and my mother's white. So statistically, mixed race,

01:22:56.880 single household, single mother household, bad area. I ticked every box to end up in jail.

01:23:03.120 I ended up in jail for the wrong reasons.

01:23:04.640 I guess you fulfilled your destiny. Can't escape statistics.

01:23:09.920 I ticked every box to be a delinquent and I refused to be one. I absolutely not only refused

01:23:16.560 to be a delinquent. I said, no, that's not who I want to be. I want to be a superhero.

01:23:20.880 And I know the only way to be a superhero is to one, suffer like Batman did. His parents died.

01:23:25.920 And two, work hard. What does your mother think? My mother's exceptionally proud of me. She

01:23:30.080 she, she still worries because mothers worry. But even when we were in jail, she said, well,

01:23:35.520 I know you're both strong. So like, she knows she has men. She knows she has, you know, that's

01:23:40.720 pretty great. Yeah, of course. And, and I think that's what, I mean, I, I, I believe especially also,

01:23:49.520 I think a man has a duty to his last name. I think we carry the last name. We have a duty

01:23:54.480 to our last name. I am a Tate. I am my father's son. The reason my father so is discussed so heavily

01:24:00.400 is because of my monumental success. I keep him alive via my success. I would love to think my

01:24:04.560 son does the same thing. They will talk about my son in a way where they're so interested in

01:24:08.560 his life path that I must be discussed by extension. And then I live forever. So I have a duty to Tate.

01:24:13.600 I have a duty to my last name. I must perform. And this is what I said to my mother on the phone.

01:24:17.520 I'm a Tate. It's fine. Well, but the conditions are bad. Yeah. Yeah. That's life. And even as a

01:24:23.920 man today, you're waking up, you want to load up a porn website. You should, you should have respect

01:24:27.440 for your last name and you should sit and say, is this who I am? Is this what I do?

01:24:32.160 A lot of this comes down to the things we discussed at the very beginning. Self-respect.

01:24:36.480 Honor. Dignity. Well, you have no dignity. I have too much dignity for that shit. And a lot of these

01:24:42.240 men have no dignity, no self-respect. And it's all an extension. Extends of why they're never

01:24:46.880 going to be who they could be and also what they do to cope with that. And yeah, porn is a coping

01:24:50.720 mechanism. What do you think of women? I think women are some of the most powerful people on the

01:24:56.080 planet. Firstly, a lot of the conversations we're having, most people don't understand that women

01:25:00.560 are the gatekeepers and women are the ultimate judges. Women are the ultimate judges, especially of

01:25:06.240 sexual access. Right? So when I say that maybe 40% of the letters I got in jail were from women,

01:25:12.960 just love letters, perfume on them and kiss, kiss marks. And the traditional masculine role is still

01:25:19.760 respected and loved by so many women. If you were to ask the average woman on the street who hasn't

01:25:23.520 lost her mind, what she wants in a man, she would like to be financially provided for, physically

01:25:28.240 protected. I love women. I think they are the most powerful and precious things on the planet.

01:25:33.440 They give life. But I believe that when you love a woman, you should want to protect her

01:25:38.240 and provide for her and take care of her. I don't believe you love a woman by wanting to do

01:25:43.360 everything she says and cucking to her. I don't believe that because I love women,

01:25:47.440 I should have no standards on what I expect in a woman. I don't think loving women is sitting there

01:25:52.400 going, a woman can do whatever she wants to me and I put up with it. I don't think that's loving

01:25:55.520 women at all. I think loving women is saying, I'm going to be the best man I can be.

01:25:59.760 And the only way I'm going to be a good man is with a degree of standard.

01:26:02.960 And I'm going to be the best man I can be for you. And when I say these things,

01:26:07.200 I get attacked for being a misogynist.

01:26:08.720 Well, how is that? I think misogynist means someone who hates women.

01:26:12.320 Correct. Because I have conversations with women who are, let's say I've done some podcasts with

01:26:16.160 women who are very promiscuous. And I've explained to them that since the dawn of human time in every

01:26:21.600 single society across the planet, promiscuity in females has been frowned upon.

01:26:26.000 Yes, that's true.

01:26:27.040 It hasn't been frowned upon in men, but it has been in women.

01:26:29.840 I explained- In a big way.

01:26:31.040 In a big way. In many, in many parts of the world to this day,

01:26:33.840 you can't get married if you're not a virgin. I'm not saying all women should be virgins. I was

01:26:37.040 explaining to her that female promiscuity has always been hated. In every holy book,

01:26:42.080 it's disliked. You've bought into this new think the last 10 years, and you seem to think it's

01:26:47.600 empowering. And I would argue that it's not empowering. And I sat there and had a conversation

01:26:52.160 with this promiscuous woman. And I said to her that she's doing herself a disservice,

01:26:55.440 and she's dishonoring herself, and she's never going to be happy or fulfilled jumping from bed

01:27:00.640 to bed. And I was told that this makes me misogynistic because women are empowered and

01:27:06.800 they can make whatever choices they want. And I'm insecure to believe that a woman who slept with 300

01:27:12.320 men is somehow changed mentally, and her ability to bond and love a man has been affected by that.

01:27:18.400 But it is. That's true. Well, unfortunately, you're going to end up in a Romanian jail cell

01:27:22.320 for being a misogynist. No, I mean, I love women. And so I,

01:27:26.240 and I've seen it, and that is true what you said. The thing that's interesting is that women

01:27:30.160 intrinsically understand this. Yeah. Because if you see a woman

01:27:34.640 dislike another woman, what's the first name she calls her? Slut. It's the first thing a girl says to

01:27:40.880 a girl she doesn't like. It's the biggest insult that comes to her mind is that she's promiscuous,

01:27:45.280 right? So it's interesting, but I've been a call to misogynist for that. And then I've made,

01:27:51.920 I've been on the internet for a long time. I've made some jokes. I've made some videos and people

01:27:57.760 don't understand satire or comedy. There's one that they keep repeating. I made a joke

01:28:03.760 next to my bed. I had a Glock, like many people do. And then I had a knife next to my bed. And there

01:28:09.040 was a comedic skit where it said, the girl caught me cheating and she picked up the knife.

01:28:14.880 And I slapped out of her hand and say, you still love me. And they cut the bit out where I talked

01:28:20.160 about the girl attacking me with the knife. They just took the bit where I say, slap the knife out

01:28:23.760 of her hand. You're the boss. And they, he's a misogynist. He's a misogynist. And it's just taken

01:28:27.760 out of context. And that's another thing that's happened to me. And I am aware of this. And like I

01:28:31.840 said, I take absolute self accountability, but the way you make jokes and make videos when you get 100

01:28:36.880 views is very different than the way you would make a joke or make a video when you get millions of views.

01:28:40.240 And when they're trying their best to find, they'll look at a four hour video and find three

01:28:46.640 seconds. I'll give you an example of it where it hurt me very recently. I did a podcast where I was

01:28:52.320 discussing corruption. I discussed which country I believe is the most corrupt country in the world.

01:28:58.320 They start a lot of wars. And, uh, the answer to that by the person I was discussing it with is,

01:29:05.200 well, you live in Romania. Romania is corrupt. I said, Romania is corrupt. Correct. But I don't

01:29:10.080 think they, there's certainly corruption, but they, they don't start monumental wars, which end up in

01:29:15.040 millions of deaths. I would argue that their corruption because a police man stops me and I

01:29:19.600 can bribe my way out of a parking ticket or speeding ticket is far less destructive.

01:29:24.560 So we discussed this at length for hours. They cut out the bit where I said Romania is corrupt

01:29:30.160 and showed it to the judge that kept me in jail. Ooh. Yeah. So, and that's, that's my problem in a

01:29:37.760 nutshell, long format content. People will find a little bit, edit it up and try and attack me with

01:29:42.240 it. And that's where this whole misogynistic things come from. It's either from me arguing with

01:29:45.680 promiscuous women on podcasts designed for promiscuous women to argue their point. And I destroy them so

01:29:52.080 flawlessly that I'm a bad person or something taken out of context. And it's insane because

01:29:59.280 like I said, the amount, the amount of support I get from women is actually monumental.

01:30:04.080 The amount of mothers who write to me and say that their son's doing better than ever,

01:30:07.680 the amount of women who write to me and say that their boyfriend's doing better than ever,

01:30:10.720 the amount of women who love me and just want to meet me. This idea that I'm hated by women is

01:30:16.240 probably the biggest lie about this whole story. I don't want to brag, but I can assure the world

01:30:20.880 that's absolutely not true. I had thousands of letters of support from women. In fact,

01:30:25.520 there was one girl, never met her. She would play love songs from her car outside the jail.

01:30:33.440 So she put the music on and play love songs. And I managed to tweet out via my cousin,

01:30:39.840 the songs I wanted to listen to. Whitesnake, is this love? And she'd play them for me. Never met her.

01:30:47.680 Don't know who she is. So you're in a Romanian prison cell requesting

01:30:51.760 Whitesnake on the radio in the car outside. Correct. And some girl would pull up and

01:30:56.000 kind of a surreal moment, put her speakers on full and play me my love songs for a good,

01:31:00.160 like three or four minutes for the police would come and make her move. But I got a song a day.

01:31:04.560 But yeah, this idea that I'm universally hated by women is insanity. That's not, that's not true.

01:31:08.800 So you said you're a mixed race. Your dad was black. Your mom was not, was white English.

01:31:13.760 Josh, what do you make of the race conversation in the United States?

01:31:19.920 I think it's deliberately, they're trying to put fuel on the fire and they're deliberately

01:31:23.920 trying to accelerate division. This is what I believe. I think that if a black billionaire

01:31:31.120 and a white billionaire meet somewhere, I don't think there's much conversation about race.

01:31:36.480 I don't think there's any racism. Interesting.

01:31:41.760 They're not that interested in the topic actually. They don't care.

01:31:45.760 But amongst the lower echelons of the populace, they seem very interested in trying to turn us all

01:31:49.920 on each other. I wonder why that is. And I wonder why they deliberately make laws and push media

01:31:56.160 matters, which are designed to do exactly that. I wonder why that is. We can sit and I have my own

01:32:01.040 theories. But I think what certain people in the world would be most afraid of is the white people of

01:32:08.720 a certain economic class and the black people of a certain economic class shaking hands and saying,

01:32:13.600 this is bullshit. I think that would be very intimidating for them. So it's certainly accelerated.

01:32:20.880 And it's also very interesting because as a mixed race person, I will also sit and state,

01:32:26.000 I don't look particularly black. Most people can't guess where I'm from.

01:32:29.360 I've had more discrimination against me for being a straight male than I've ever had for my skin color.

01:32:34.880 I've had more people look at me or have problems with me purely because of my sexual orientation

01:32:39.760 and my generally masculine essence than I've ever had anybody say anything about my skin color ever.

01:32:46.000 And I'll also say, if somebody has a real problem with my skin color, who cares? If someone's that

01:32:51.120 ignorant, who gives a shit? It's also, I do find it amazing they manage to psyop people into being so

01:32:58.640 brutally offended by it. If someone were to come up to me and say, you're not white, I'd say,

01:33:03.280 correct. Have a nice day. Who cares? It's amazing how they've got everyone wrapped up in this. But

01:33:12.400 yeah, it's certainly accelerated. And another thing that's very interesting about it, especially in

01:33:15.840 America, a lot of Americans are insulated to, I feel like world history. Yeah, I've noticed.

01:33:23.040 You know, they're like, oh, slavery, slavery, slavery. Slavery was everywhere. Every country

01:33:29.600 had slaves. Arabs had slaves. Chinese had slaves. Aztecs had slaves. Everybody had slaves.

01:33:35.280 Correct. And they're like, oh, we've been enslaved. Everyone was enslaved. Unfortunately,

01:33:41.840 the world wasn't such a nice place. Right. And there's been ethnic divisions in every single

01:33:46.400 country on earth since the dawn of time. There still is in many countries in the world today.

01:33:52.560 They believe this is a uniquely American issue. And I would strongly argue that one,

01:33:58.080 it's completely not only not. And two, I think that if you are black, white, Asian,

01:34:04.800 I think if you stand up, self-respect, work hard, try your best, turn up on time,

01:34:10.000 firm handshake, don't make excuses for anything. Don't look for an easy way out. No matter what

01:34:15.360 your skin color is in America or England or any other Western nation, I think you can be extremely

01:34:19.520 successful. I don't think anything's stopping you. That's not the message you get from, say,

01:34:24.480 Kamala Harris, who's also mixed race. Her dad was Jamaican. Her mom is Indian.

01:34:29.200 Yeah. But race is really at the center of her identity and her politics. What do you make of,

01:34:33.600 say, Kamala Harris? Well, let's look at why they purport the idea that depression is so powerful and

01:34:39.360 that you can just catch it from the sky. And now you're permanently depressed no matter what happens

01:34:42.640 to you. And there's nothing you can do about it. And you can't improve your life and you can't be a

01:34:45.920 better person. Right. It's that self-limiting belief. I think by also pushing this racism argument,

01:34:51.840 it's also very much the same thing. I think if you adopt that mindset, if you wake up and you're

01:34:55.440 a particular color, you're purple and you believe purple people can't make it, what's your chance

01:34:59.440 of making it? Zero. Yeah. Right. So that's what's so destructive about it. This is what I'll even

01:35:05.360 argue when I argue this point with people and they try and say, oh, but this happens. And they pull out

01:35:09.200 these statistics and all this garbage from the matrix. I say, listen, even if, even if the world's

01:35:14.400 racist against purple people, the best thing you can do is be such an exceptional purple person

01:35:19.920 that they need you. They need you. The only answer is hard work. The only answer is self-accountability,

01:35:26.880 masculine essence, honor, dignity, making your ancestors proud of you because you hold the same

01:35:32.000 last name as them. The answer is the same regardless anyway. But when people like Kamala or Kamala

01:35:37.440 are pushing this racism agenda, they're trying to say to people effectively, you'll never be anything

01:35:43.120 and you don't stand a chance of ever being anything. And I think that that makes people who aren't

01:35:47.520 anything feel a little bit better about themselves. It's cope. And that's the only fans she has left

01:35:53.520 are losers who she's told it's okay to be a loser because there's no way you could have not been a

01:35:58.320 loser. And I will argue you could have been something a lot more than that. And you shouldn't

01:36:01.840 listen to anybody who tells you're not going to be a loser. Someone were to come to me and say,

01:36:04.320 Andrew, you're a mixed race. You're from a single mother household. You're never going to be rich.

01:36:07.280 I'll say, watch me. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Who are you?

01:36:11.120 I don't believe you. So everything she's saying is one, wrong. Two, it's destructive to believe in.

01:36:17.600 Three, I think it's her last hope at having any kind of fan at all because she's largely incompetent.

01:36:22.800 I don't think I've ever heard her put a compendious, coherent sentence together.

01:36:29.520 And perhaps also, maybe that's the reason why she leans so heavily on race because she's not

01:36:35.840 impressive or competent. So she can say, oh, but I'm this color and I did it, instead of actually

01:36:41.120 talking about how good of a job she's doing. Because if you have to discuss that part of her

01:36:45.840 career or that part of her current life path, I think she'd be in a lot of trouble.

01:36:50.160 I want to show you a video of Joe Biden's challenger for the Democratic primary,

01:36:55.040 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. What do you think of him?

01:36:58.160 I think a strong body is a strong mind. I don't think there's anything wrong with a man

01:37:01.200 exercising up until the age he dies. Why wouldn't he? I think that the bottom line of

01:37:05.600 masculinity since the dawn of human time has been a propensity and a capability for violence.

01:37:09.680 I think that's what makes a man a man. I don't see any possible negative connotation with being

01:37:14.640 in good physical shape. I think that's a fantastic way to show discipline, which is very important

01:37:19.040 and any man who's important, especially a world leader. In fact, I love the idea of

01:37:24.320 an elected world leader being in fantastic physical shape. I think it shows that they're a motivated,

01:37:29.120 disciplined person. And I have a lot of respect for him for that. And I think that

01:37:33.200 in the military, we make it mandatory, right? To be in fantastic physical condition.

01:37:36.960 Yes.

01:37:37.200 So why wouldn't we have it mandatory for people who are in charge of the entire world? I think it's

01:37:41.920 fantastic.

01:37:49.360 The president of the United States seems to be failing physically. As you look back at the country

01:37:55.760 whose passport you hold at the president, what's your reaction?

01:38:00.640 Well, sometimes, and it's not very often, I consider myself ignorant, but I feel like

01:38:08.960 there must be some magic I missed because wasn't he the most voted for president in history?

01:38:13.840 Oh yeah, billions of votes. Yeah, it must. There must be some magic I just can't detect,

01:38:18.720 Tucker. I don't want to. More than Barack Obama. 81 million votes.

01:38:22.880 It's insane. And I mean, Barack, yeah, sure. He was very intelligent, articulate.

01:38:27.760 Yep.

01:38:28.720 He was concise and compendious with his ideas. He could make you understand how he thinks.

01:38:32.880 Yes.

01:38:34.240 But Joe must be better in some way. I just, I can't seem to see how. And I guess the fault is with me.

01:38:42.000 I don't know what to say about that one.

01:38:44.560 It's one of those lies that's so ridiculous that you're just like, I don't, okay. He got more votes

01:38:52.960 than Barack Obama. Shut up. He did. Shut up.

01:39:01.200 Excuse me. I want to get your take. This is sort of small ball, but it, it, I think tells you something

01:39:08.000 about a larger trend in the United States. This is a state senator from the state of Wisconsin

01:39:12.880 in a public hearing recently saying in a discussion on a crime bill,

01:39:18.000 fuck the suburbs. Here she is.

01:39:20.640 Fuck the suburbs because they don't know a goddamn thing about how life is in the city.

01:39:29.840 What is that? There's a hostility there. Where does that come from?

01:39:37.680 That comes from being a perpetual victim. That comes from being told that everything that's

01:39:41.520 happening to her is not her fault and she has no self accountability. Even though she's managed

01:39:44.720 to become a senator, somehow she's still oppressed. And that means that everyone else who looks like

01:39:49.840 her is also completely and utterly oppressed. And anybody who has a slightly better life in any way

01:39:54.080 is by extension a bad person because they weren't oppressed.

01:39:56.720 Yes. And that's where the hate comes from. The divisions put there by these mindsets,

01:40:00.400 which are being purported by the people in charge of the world,

01:40:02.640 convincing you that you have no control all over your own life. And that's why she's so resentful

01:40:07.680 towards people who have done well in life, not even as well as her. I would also argue,

01:40:12.960 perhaps I'm incorrect, that she probably lives in a suburb. Of course she does.

01:40:17.520 So she's a hypocrite on top of that. Yeah. But hypocrites are, the fantastic thing about being a hypocrite is if

01:40:23.120 you're a hypocrite with a little bit of power or influence, you're allowed to be a hypocrite because you're

01:40:26.240 you're spreading information on the larger problem. In fact, this is actually interesting.

01:40:31.520 One of my funnest things, I might, I'm going to announce this here on your show for everyone to know

01:40:35.600 this is a world exclusive. I want to become a climate change activist. Because when I was younger,

01:40:41.280 people would say, what do you want to be when you grow up? Do you want to be a fireman? Do you want to be

01:40:43.680 Batman, et cetera? And I wasn't sure what would really make me happy. But now I'm ultra wealthy

01:40:47.920 and I fly around on private jets all the time. I think that now is the time for me to become

01:40:52.080 one of those hypocritical climate change activists. 100%. It's going to be super fun.

01:40:55.360 Well, as your carbon footprint grows, your concern about carbon footprints grows.

01:40:59.200 Absolutely. Eat the bugs. Sell your car. How dare you eat meat? On my jet, of course,

01:41:07.280 I have meat. But I'm allowed to be a hypocrite because I'm spreading awareness for the overall

01:41:10.880 problem. It's for the greater good. It's for the greater good. I have to get to the climate

01:41:13.680 change activist meetings. Which happened to me in Switzerland, I noticed. Of course.

01:41:19.440 So although I'm flying on, well, before this arrest- They're never in New Jersey.

01:41:23.200 Never. So before this arrest, I was on about three or four jets a week. But every single time

01:41:28.560 I was flying on my private plane, I was extremely concerned about the carbon footprint. Of course

01:41:31.680 you were. And so I am now a climate change activist. I just want to let the whole world know. Because

01:41:36.080 once you get to a certain level of power of influence, you're absolutely not really allowed

01:41:38.480 to be a complete hypocrite. So you're allowed to live in the suburbs and then tell everyone,

01:41:42.480 fuck the suburbs and pretend that you're oppressed when you're a senator of the most powerful nation

01:41:48.880 on the planet. Because it's just, it's a logic fail on every planet, on every level.

01:41:53.040 So one of the human activities has got to produce the greatest carbon footprint is,

01:41:57.440 I would think, war, right? I would think so. Diesel powered machines, munitions going off.

01:42:04.320 So I was a little bit surprised to see Greta Thunberg with Zelensky this morning.

01:42:10.640 What's interesting to me is this. Firstly, I would never kill myself. Secondly,

01:42:14.720 imagine these people are so detached from reality. Imagine going, you know what we need to do?

01:42:23.360 Brain wave. We need to drum up support for this garbage. Let's take our, let's take the most loved

01:42:30.640 woman, Greta, and the most loved man, Zelensky, and let's make them meet. Think about the PR. Let's

01:42:37.440 bring a camera. And imagine people sitting around a table going, that's great. That's going to really

01:42:41.600 make people support this. Who gives a fuck? I don't want to swear. I'm sorry, but some young

01:42:49.440 girl turns up to a war zone who has nothing. Why is she there? What are they going to talk about?

01:42:55.360 I don't know. But what's their conversation? I think she only yells. I don't think she does talk.

01:42:59.920 I don't understand. Is she going to talk about how the childhood has been stolen from all those

01:43:04.480 million Ukrainian men who have been born to blown to pieces? Like she talks about childhood being

01:43:08.160 stolen because we drive, you know, cars. I don't think she is. I don't think she's going to mention

01:43:12.000 that. Is it just a big PR opportunity? Like what PR team came up with this concoction and thought,

01:43:16.720 this'll, this'll keep them on side. It's mind bending to me who even thought this was a good idea.

01:43:23.680 It's crazy. But of course somebody did. Somebody thought it was a fantastic idea.

01:43:30.160 Have you ever met Greta Thunberg? No, but me and her have had some internet arguments. I think

01:43:35.520 you went to prison for it, right? Yeah, correct. Which is amazing because I'm a climate change

01:43:38.800 activist. So I'm on her team. You know, I was in Sweden during COVID. So we could have met. She

01:43:45.440 didn't want to hang out with me, unfortunately. And then now I'm flying around in my jet everywhere,

01:43:49.520 spreading news about climate change. Same thing. Like in my Bugatti, obviously it's got a big engine.

01:43:54.800 I make sure to talk about climate change out the window as I drive. But I'm on her side. She doesn't

01:43:59.760 seem to be very interested. You yell at the surfs as you pass about climate change? Yeah, don't eat me.

01:44:03.120 Eat the bugs. What's wrong with you people? You don't care about the earth? Like if you don't,

01:44:07.360 if you don't start caring about climate change, all those politicians with beachfront property

01:44:11.920 are going to lose their houses. Yes. And they're very concerned about climate change,

01:44:15.200 which is why they bought their houses on the beachfront, so they can be the first to let

01:44:18.560 you know it's coming. The early warning system, right? They're very concerned. That's why they want

01:44:25.040 to be right there on the beach. Quite honorable if you think about it. Kind of on the front lines of the

01:44:29.360 climate crisis. Absolutely. Lead from the front. That's so good.

01:44:36.000 But one more point about this. Sorry to go on and on. No, I love it.

01:44:39.840 But when I say these things, people, you don't care about the environment.

01:44:43.040 And I try and explain to them, I love nature. You love hunting, fishing. You love nature. I love

01:44:47.440 nature. Passionately. The problem with all of these things is not that I don't like nature. The problem

01:44:52.160 is that nearly any issue which appears to be virtuous on the planet today is Trojan-horsed with garbage.

01:44:59.040 That's the problem. I have no problem with fixing or maintaining or preserving nature.

01:45:04.320 I have a problem with them telling me I have to maintain nature, them Trojan-horsing my bankruptcy

01:45:10.560 into the middle of it, knowing that nature won't be fixed, then telling me it's about nature,

01:45:16.480 and telling me I should agree with it. That's my problem. There's nothing left on the planet,

01:45:22.240 no issue, which isn't Trojan-horsed with absolute garbage. And if you're going to sit there and tell

01:45:27.920 me that I need to give more money to the government to stop the sun from being hot, I'm going to argue

01:45:35.360 with you that I'd rather keep my money. Thank you very much. Yes. So this is the problem with all

01:45:40.160 these issues. It's nearly anything. When I argue against some people, you don't care about the issue. I do.

01:45:44.400 But you're not smart enough to understand that the legislation around this issue is so large,

01:45:48.960 it hasn't even been read by most people voting for it. Yeah. And there's something in the middle

01:45:52.880 of it, which is going to damage every single person's life, which has nothing at all to do

01:45:57.280 with the issue itself. And most people don't understand that. They co-opt people's best

01:46:01.440 instincts, their love of nature, which is a virtue, of course, their love of their neighbors during

01:46:05.680 COVID. Don't you care about your neighbors? Oh, completely. Of course you do. And your grandparents,

01:46:09.120 I revere my grandparents. Of course, of course. And you're a bad person if you resist. I was a terrible

01:46:14.240 person for going to Sweden. You're a very bad person. You don't care about anyone else.

01:46:18.320 And that's how they do. It's weaponized virtue. And my opposers, every single virtuous thing that

01:46:24.640 comes out of their mouth is never from a place of virtue. It's from a place of hate. Yes.

01:46:28.000 It's weaponized. And also, and I don't talk about this very often, but people can go right now to

01:46:33.360 TatePledge.com. I donate $25 million a year to feeding children in war-torn countries,

01:46:39.680 especially in the Islamic world, because that's where a lot of the war is.

01:46:43.120 Nobody ever mentions that ever. Nobody mentions any of the charitable work I do. Nobody mentions any

01:46:47.920 of the lives I save. Nobody mentions any of the people who support me. They don't mention anything at

01:46:50.880 all. They just come along and say, you're a bad person. And I say, well, if I'm a bad person,

01:46:54.240 let's talk about the things you've done to genuinely benefit humanity, besides sit on Twitter and talk

01:46:58.560 shit. Have you ever done anything for anybody ever? Are you capable of doing anything? Because

01:47:05.440 the things that make me a bad person, right? You don't like me for my principles and the fact I

01:47:10.160 stand up for myself and the fact I have parameters and I say, no, everything you hate about me. Those

01:47:13.680 are the things that allow me to even do good in the world. If I was like you, mush, goo, I couldn't

01:47:20.160 even help anyone. If you had to help someone today, how could you even do it? You're broke

01:47:24.640 and you're lazy and you're stupid. You can't even enlighten anybody. You can just spread hate.

01:47:30.800 How is that helping the world? These people are a net negative, genuinely. And that's what's so

01:47:37.680 crazy about being attacked for your morality like I'm being now. And when you're a good person in

01:47:42.080 general, they attack your morality because the people who are attacking you are absolutely

01:47:45.040 not immoral. The ultimate hypocritical, hypocriticism, ultimate, even more than my

01:47:51.680 private jet climate change stance. So it's, it's certainly unique. I do like to believe though,

01:47:58.880 we're entering a new stage of consciousness. I do like to believe at least from 10 to 15 years ago,

01:48:03.040 more people are, I think COVID woke some people up. I do like to believe the MSM credibility is tanking

01:48:09.040 in real time. Trump helped massively. Fake news. Two words. Before Trump, when did you ever hear

01:48:16.240 fake news? I didn't really hear it that often. Yeah. Fake news, fake news, fake news. And he did

01:48:22.720 a fantastic job of that. And he's starting to wake people up. So I'd like to believe there's a degree

01:48:26.480 of us winning, but I just want to make it very clear to the people who attack me and the people

01:48:30.880 who attack anybody who stands up for what they believe in, a lot of their virtue, their virtue,

01:48:35.120 their virtue signaling. It's just hate peddling. And when they can't call you unsuccessful and

01:48:40.320 they can't call you stupid, they have to find a way to hurt you. And the only way they can do that

01:48:44.480 is to say you're a bad person. I've noticed. I've noticed. Yes. Yes, I have. So here's Joe Biden

01:48:52.960 expressing his concern about how Putin is doing in the war in Iraq. Interesting.

01:48:57.920 It's hard to tell, but he's clearly losing the war in Iraq. He's losing the war at home.

01:49:03.360 And he has become a bit of a fly around the world. Do you think Putin is losing the war in Iraq?

01:49:09.440 I don't think he's losing the war in Iraq. I don't think he's fighting the war in Iraq.

01:49:11.920 Okay. He also said he's losing the war at home. I don't think he's fighting in Russia. And I'm also

01:49:17.120 not sure he's losing. So it's pretty interesting statement on many levels.

01:49:20.560 It's scary. You know, it's a joke, but it's scary. Because I would never kill myself. But

01:49:29.920 I think the reason he was put into office is because he's incompetent. Yes. Because that makes

01:49:34.480 him easy to control and influence. That's what's most scary. It's not scary that he's become incompetent

01:49:39.280 in office. It's that they looked at him and goes, that's who we need. That guy. That's what's most

01:49:44.000 scary to me. Does it surprise you that the weakest president is also the most destructive?

01:49:48.560 Weak men are always destructive because hurt people hurt people. Yeah. I don't know. I heard

01:49:54.640 someone said that to me a long time ago. Hurt people hurt people. They were talking about

01:49:57.520 a relationship. And I said, that's true. If your heart's been broken, you're probably going to be

01:50:01.440 a vivid asshole and break someone's heart. Hurt people hurt people. And then I thought,

01:50:04.320 well, if you're a weak man and you're going through life and you don't have the strength and resilience

01:50:09.040 to resist the trials and tribulations of being a man, and you're constantly hurt by everything,

01:50:13.680 and you're constantly upset and depressed and sad because you're weak, how could you possibly do

01:50:18.000 good? Hurt people hurt people, right? To do good, you have to be a good person to begin with. And

01:50:24.240 to be a good person, you're virtuous and you've gone through a lot of things that made you strong.

01:50:30.160 This is what's mind bending to me, that the idea that strong men are somehow bad.

01:50:33.840 And it's the ultimate hypocrisy because as soon as something happens, especially physically,

01:50:39.120 as soon as a liberal is attacked, they call the police. Defund the police. Call the police.

01:50:45.040 Don't be masculine. Police officer. They want a big, strong man with a gun. Guns are bad.

01:50:51.920 They want him to have one, right? So the ultimate hypocrisy on every level is absolutely and utterly

01:50:57.680 insane. At the base realities of humanity, the absolute base reality, strength in men is respected and

01:51:03.280 wanted. And I think that the closer you get to unfortunate circumstance, the closer you get to

01:51:09.280 reality, they go hand in hand. And then everyone's looking for the strong men. So strong men should

01:51:15.440 always lead, I believe. And for a longest period of human time, that's how society functioned. The

01:51:20.160 strongest men led. But in the Western world now, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. And weak men

01:51:25.520 are emotionally led. They're not particularly stoic. They're impulsive. And I would say that

01:51:34.560 the most heinous acts, perhaps, that happen in modern society today are purported and committed

01:51:39.680 by weak men. I don't think a school shooter is a strong man. I think it's a weak man. I think it's

01:51:44.560 a man who's been picked on, got butthurt, is upset. Girls don't like him. Never learned any emotional

01:51:50.320 control. He's the kind of person who does exactly what the TV tells him to do. Act out your feelings.

01:51:56.080 Cry when you want to cry. Well, now he's angry. So now what? You told him to act out his feelings.

01:52:00.160 What do you expect him to do? I think that weak men do the worst things. I think weak men hurt women.

01:52:05.520 I think weak men rob stores because they don't want to wake up and work hard and go to work and

01:52:10.640 do it the honorable way. It's a weak man who goes and steals. It's a weak man who beats the shit out of

01:52:14.560 a girl. It's a weak man who shoots up a school. This is all weak men stuff. And society as a whole is

01:52:20.000 telling men to be weaker and weaker, saying it's somehow the solution to everything because being

01:52:23.120 a man is toxically masculine. Being a strong man is bad. It's toxically masculine. To be a good man,

01:52:29.040 you have to be a very weak one. Well, look at the most heinous acts that are committed in society.

01:52:33.760 Show me a strong, honorable, virtuous man of principle who's doing any of this stuff.

01:52:37.680 So weak men commit the atrocities in this world. Absolutely they do. And it's weak men who also attack

01:52:46.320 anybody of virtue. Because I think when you're weak, you're intrinsically unhappy.

01:52:50.720 I don't think as a man, you can be happy if you're weak. I think happiness and strength go

01:52:54.720 hand in hand. I think that's how we're supposed to be, right? Even strength of mind, strength of

01:52:58.400 conviction, strength of something. If you're weak, you're going to be miserable. So I do find

01:53:03.280 satisfaction in the fact that most of the men who truly dislike me are miserable and weak.

01:53:07.440 And also, like I said earlier about women being gatekeepers, women are fantastic. Women are a

01:53:12.240 fantastic, they're like a barometer for society. I would say you can measure the strength of a

01:53:19.520 society or the virtue of a society or how decayed a society is largely by the actions of many women.

01:53:25.520 I'd like to argue that point. I can argue that point in many different ways.

01:53:29.200 But women really want their man to be strong. Of course.

01:53:32.960 They will punish you for being weak. And I'm not saying you can never cry to your woman,

01:53:37.600 I'm not saying you can never open up to your woman, but there's going to become a time where

01:53:40.560 she expects you to just be capable. There's a problem. And even if you don't know how to fix

01:53:44.960 it, your job as a man is to say, I'll handle it. Even if you have no money and no hope,

01:53:49.520 and to go find a way to fix the problem. If you're weak and go, I don't know, I don't know,

01:53:54.480 she becomes very resentful towards you. And she'll punish you for that, that weakness. And I think

01:53:59.680 what she's trying to do on an evolutionary standard is inspire you to man up because it's your job to

01:54:04.320 protect her, isn't it? Of course.

01:54:05.840 So if she sees you and looks at you and doesn't see you as a man who can protect her, she can't

01:54:08.880 respect you. So every survey of female happiness in the West shows just a straight decline since

01:54:14.640 about 1970 till now. Women are becoming less happy in the West. I think it's very obvious.

01:54:19.600 What accounts for that? How can you be happy when all the men around you aren't men?

01:54:23.520 We are the most beautiful union that God has possibly created on the planet. A feminine

01:54:29.680 woman and a masculine man, it's the most beautiful union that can possibly exist. It raises children

01:54:34.320 the best. Both parties are happier. Both parties gain. It's a net positive for everybody. There's

01:54:39.840 no negative. There's no downside. But if you destroy one side of the equation, then the other side is

01:54:45.440 going to be completely and utterly miserable and unhappy. How as a woman can you be happy if you can't

01:54:50.720 find a man who you believe can protect you, provide for you, sticks up for you, has morals,

01:54:55.360 has principles? There's none of those men left. So then what they do is just go from man to man

01:55:00.640 trying to find it. And by the time they've been through enough men to maybe find someone semi-close

01:55:04.720 to it, they've been through too many men to ever be happy. And then you have the absolute destruction

01:55:08.880 of Western society. We talk about why men don't get married anymore. I can tell you why I wouldn't want

01:55:13.920 to get married in America. I don't see the point in being married to a woman who's had

01:55:20.080 so many partners before me that she can't properly pair bond with me, and then giving

01:55:24.400 her the opportunity to financially destroy me. I think that would be a bad chess move.

01:55:30.240 And I do believe in marriage. I think society would be better if everyone was married. I'm

01:55:34.160 saying that if you're living in a immoral society, being a moral person, if you're not careful about

01:55:41.120 it, you can get wrecked. If the game is rigged, you'd be very careful if you play it.

01:55:45.600 So how do we encourage men to get married? Well, they need to be worth marrying, but

01:55:49.280 so do the women, right? So everything's decaying on both sides. Everything's spiraling. One of the

01:55:54.560 reasons I also got called misogynistic, and I'll say it here, I argue the point that

01:55:59.520 that for the longest period of human time, evolutionarily, women had to adopt and find

01:56:06.240 a way to take the ethos of an opposing tribe perhaps quicker than a man could because of war.

01:56:12.880 Of course. If the men would come and if the men

01:56:15.200 would fight and a tribe lost and the women survived, they had to change how they thought

01:56:19.280 to fit in with the new tribe to survive. Yeah, because they'd be carried off.

01:56:22.880 Because they'd be carried off. Of course. Like the French women were sleeping with Nazis towards

01:56:27.360 the end of it. Towards the end of Paris occupation, all the French women were sleeping with Nazis.

01:56:31.120 When the Nazis got kicked out, the French women had all their heads shaved because they got caught

01:56:34.640 hanging around with German soldiers. The German soldiers killed their husband.

01:56:38.640 Three years later, they need to eat. The German soldiers have a wage. He's handsome.

01:56:44.160 It's amazing how quickly they can adapt. And that's for their own survival. That's fantastic.

01:56:48.240 But then if you extrapolate that and you understand that to be true, then you also understand that women

01:56:51.840 are more susceptible to programming to a degree. I got called misogynistic by saying that if you sit

01:56:57.760 100 men and 100 women down in front of propaganda, I believe that women are more likely to believe

01:57:02.000 a lot of that. I think a lot of liberals are female. They're more emotional. And it's easier to

01:57:06.560 convince them of something if you use an emotionally led argument. Right? So if by extension, you now have

01:57:12.720 women who are emotionally led, who are being convinced and their logic is failing because they're being

01:57:17.280 tricked with an emotionally led argument and the man they're meeting has no principle and no honor and

01:57:21.360 he can't resist that. She's in charge of the house. Well, now she's telling the man what to do.

01:57:26.800 Right? If I would have come home during COVID and my woman said, you need to wear a mask. I'd say, no, I don't.

01:57:31.760 End of conversation. But if I was a simp, you need to wear a mask. Okay, baby.

01:57:36.720 All right. So the women are also largely in charge of the PSYOP because the men are so desperate to get

01:57:43.920 any kind of connection with a real person and avoid the porn screen. And then these women are

01:57:49.760 being controlled by the mass media as a whole. I say this to, I have children. I don't talk about

01:57:56.480 it often. But I say to the mothers of my children, I say, look, either we program their minds or society

01:58:02.000 does. Who do you believe in? Everyone is being programmed by somebody and something. Me, you,

01:58:09.120 everybody. We're all programmed by someone to sit and think you're above programming is incorrect.

01:58:13.840 What you have to do is sit and say, does the person who's programming genuinely have my best

01:58:17.760 interests at heart? What do they want me to believe? Why do they want me to believe it? What happens if

01:58:21.280 I believe what they want me to believe? Where does this lead? That's all we can do. We're all programmed.

01:58:25.680 We're all the sum of the five people we spend the most time with. Right? Right. So if you have women

01:58:30.240 with no father, no strong masculine influence, who's programming them? The Kardashians and the news?

01:58:39.600 The internet? Porn stars? What kind of woman is that going to be? And then if a man finally ends up

01:58:47.200 with her and he has no backbone, what kind of man is he going to be? I don't want to comment on these

01:58:52.000 things because I don't want to make personal enemies of people I don't know. There's a guy called

01:58:56.320 Adam 22. Once again, I have no idea who this man is. I just saw on Twitter yesterday that he was with

01:59:02.320 a porn star who'd never done a male scene. They got married and like a week after their marriage,

01:59:08.320 she did her first male scene with some random dude and he's on a podcast defending it.

01:59:12.960 But his wife had sex with somebody else? Correct. Why? Like this, this is the level you could,

01:59:19.840 this, but this is what the matrix wants from you as a man. They want the woman in charge and the man

01:59:24.720 below with no backbone because if the woman's in charge, they can emotionally affect her.

01:59:28.000 They can scare her. You can scare a woman. Easier than you can scare a man. A man. A real man's

01:59:33.600 hard to scare. A woman you can make afraid of the vaccine, right? Be afraid. COVID. Be scared. If she's

01:59:40.000 in charge of the household, I would argue in nearly any household where the female was dominant,

01:59:44.560 everyone's vaccinated. I would argue that point hard. Of course. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would argue it.

01:59:49.520 I don't, I don't have the statistics. It's just logic to me. So talk about women being unhappy.

01:59:55.600 What's actually interesting about the female mind, once again, they're going to call me a misogynist,

01:59:59.280 is that when you're an emotionally led person, you're more prone to chaos.

02:00:06.160 It takes real stoicism to lead. So why are these women unhappy? Because no one's leading them. No

02:00:11.600 fathers, no man of no backbone, no man they respect. So they're relying on society,

02:00:16.800 which is promoting chaos and their own mental state. Women will say all the time,

02:00:20.720 ah, my period was coming up. So I was crazy. Like they'll say that themselves.

02:00:27.120 So without any kind of hard rock of emotional security to give her a hug and say, don't worry,

02:00:32.720 baby, calm down. It's okay. When you're not, when you have no hard rock of emotional security and you

02:00:37.040 leave her, leave her to her own devices, she's going to be to a degree chaotic. And you know who told

02:00:40.880 me this? A woman said this to me. A woman said this to me. A woman said, most women are closer to

02:00:45.040 a mental breakdown than you possibly believe day by day. I was like, really? She goes, yeah. And

02:00:49.920 that's, that's what I love about my husband. He makes me feel happy and secure and safe. If I'm

02:00:54.400 starting to have a problem, I know I go to him and he makes me feel safe. He's my rock.

02:00:58.480 There's a woman said this to me a long time ago. So why are women miserable? Because where are they

02:01:03.040 going to get their happiness from? Where they're going to get their emotional stability from? It's not

02:01:05.920 their job. I don't believe it's a woman's job to be emotionally stable. It's a woman's job to do many

02:01:10.560 other very important things that men can't do. More important, they're better than men at a lot

02:01:14.720 of things, women are. But it's our job to be emotionally stable. Women are better than us

02:01:19.440 at certain things. We're better at other things. And that's why as a team, we're so powerful.

02:01:22.800 To sit and pretend we're all the same the whole way through, then why do we even need each other

02:01:25.520 anymore? Well, I don't think we do. You're exactly it. And this is why we have birth rates declining,

02:01:30.080 porn, women who are running around sharing one man with no intention of having children,

02:01:34.400 marriage is gone. Like, where do we think this is going to end? And what's interesting about it-

02:01:38.080 What ends with the training thing, right? Well, yeah, that's the ultimate-

02:01:42.000 No, no. I'm serious though. I mean, if there's no, I mean, scrambling the idea of the gender

02:01:48.720 binary, of sex differences, like that is kind of the end point, isn't it?

02:01:52.240 Well, the end point is, yeah, men are the same as women, so it doesn't even matter.

02:01:55.680 Right. I can be a woman today. I can be a man tomorrow. None of it matters anymore.

02:02:00.000 I also think a large part of this transsexual movement, I think a large part of it,

02:02:05.360 is a deliberate attack on us and our senses because they're trying to convince us to ignore

02:02:10.000 our eyes. I do believe that is a bottom line. I think the bottom line of slavery are your own senses.

02:02:16.800 Like, no matter what I'm told, that it's cold outside, I feel warm. That's the bottom line.

02:02:24.480 So once they can convince you that your senses are wrong, well, then you're completely open for the

02:02:28.960 slave programming. That's true.

02:02:30.160 Once you can look at something with your eyes and ignore your eyes, you're a prime candidate.

02:02:35.760 So I think a lot of this has also something to do with that. You are going to say that's a girl.

02:02:41.040 That's what you are going to say because you have to. And if you say it long enough, you'll think it.

02:02:46.480 And if you won't, your children will, because we'll tell them.

02:02:49.920 So eventually you're going to say it and then it becomes true. Then you ignore your eyes. Now you'll

02:02:54.720 believe anything right to the next thing comes along. Now you'll believe all the people on the

02:02:59.040 jets telling you about climate change. It's all an attack on the senses.

02:03:09.760 This is America's most famous admiral. You know, it's it's so it's such an important issue for our

02:03:16.320 youth and adults. As you said, some of these laws are actually extending into adulthood. You know,

02:03:21.520 we often say that gender affirming care is health care, gender affirming care is mental health care,

02:03:27.120 and gender affirming care is literally suicide prevention care. Would that be your view as well?

02:03:32.400 I 100% agree.

02:03:35.440 It's so it's genuinely, I want to actually genuinely give my heartfelt condolences to any

02:03:39.840 young person who falls for this crap, because you're going to be so miserable for the rest of

02:03:42.880 your life. If you chop off your genitals, take a whole bunch of chemicals as a teenager,

02:03:47.440 you are going to be miserable for the rest of your life. Yes.

02:03:49.600 You're never going to be the person you want to be. You're never going to be accepted as that

02:03:52.560 person. You're never going to feel happy inside. If you fall for this, I genuinely feel sorry.

02:03:58.640 That's the first thing I'm going to say. The second thing I'm going to say, I find it very interesting

02:04:02.800 that the only surgery we call affirming is gender surgery. Imagine a girl woke up and said,

02:04:09.840 I was born in the wrong body because my tits are small. I'm a big titted woman,

02:04:14.240 but I was born in the wrong body. I need a tit affirming care. I need to affirm my true body

02:04:22.000 shape. Otherwise, I have a mental health problem. No, it's plastic. It looks good, perhaps, whatever.

02:04:30.080 But we would never say she was born in the wrong body and we had to affirm her genuine body experience.

02:04:35.680 Her triple Ds. Yeah. Yeah. Her triple Ds had to be affirmed. It's garbage. You're not affirming

02:04:41.920 anything. And also, I think it's kind of interesting. They say that trans people commit

02:04:46.240 suicide at a higher rate. That's sad. Nobody should kill themselves. I would hate for anybody

02:04:50.080 to kill themselves. They say that's because they're picked on for being trans. I don't know why anyone's

02:04:56.080 ever had the argument that perhaps they have a mental instability before this trans stuff. And that's

02:05:01.680 why they're more prone to suicide in the first place. Seems like an obvious explanation. Seems like

02:05:06.160 an obvious explanation. I don't think it's normal for anybody to want to mutilate themselves. I think

02:05:13.280 if someone were to come to me and say, I really want to cut my hand off, I would think they had a mental

02:05:17.120 illness. Why? Don't like it. What do you mean you don't like it? I don't like my hand. I don't want it. I

02:05:22.880 would think that's very concerning. So I really, truly feel sorry for any young people who fall for this.

02:05:30.640 I don't blame them. I think it's a massive psyop. And I think if you fall for it,

02:05:35.600 you're going to be miserable forever. And I... One more point I'll make on this whole thing I

02:05:41.120 found very interesting. I'm a professional fighter, so I spent a lot of time in Thailand

02:05:46.080 when I was fighting. Kickboxing is big over there. And I've always thought, no one's ever mentioned that

02:05:50.880 Thailand has a bunch of ladyboys, right? But if you say to a ladyboy, are you a man or a woman?

02:05:55.760 She goes, I'm a ladyboy. What's that? I'm a man, but I'm a ladyboy. They don't see themselves as

02:06:02.000 women in the real sense of, I am female. They don't want to compete against women in sports.

02:06:08.240 They don't want to pretend they can have kids. They don't talk about having periods. They're like,

02:06:11.040 I'm a ladyboy. It's like kind of like an in-between. It's got its own thing.

02:06:14.480 India has the same. Yeah, it's fine. Nobody over there is genuinely arguing that they are

02:06:19.920 actually female. Only in America are we doing that. And that's what's the craziest thing of all.

02:06:26.960 Even if you truly, truly believe you need to change gender, and you truly believe it's the

02:06:30.560 right path for you, and you believe you're not being psyoped, and you believe you're going to

02:06:33.200 be happy, and you believe you need to mutilate yourself, that's all fine. But then to come along

02:06:37.520 with the hubris and arrogance to tell me that I have to pretend you're something you're not,

02:06:40.880 not biologically. That's right. That's absolutely not really arrogant. You can't tell me what I have

02:06:46.880 to call you, right? I'm allowed to come to my own conclusions and opinions. And the whole point

02:06:51.280 of being a human is that we've gone through life long enough to identify patterns. Imagine humans

02:06:56.960 didn't identify patterns. One person went and got ate by the lion. You watch it happen. Then you go for

02:07:02.880 a turn. Like, no, you work out over time. Don't go near the lion, right? If I look at a person who's

02:07:08.880 six foot four, muscularly built, right, with a big jaw and a beard, my brain and my life experience

02:07:16.480 tells me that's quite often a man. That's... Very often it is. Very often. That's the conclusion

02:07:21.920 I've come to. To come along and say, no, because I've decided to do X, Y, Z, you have to ignore all

02:07:26.720 of the patterns you've identified throughout your entire life and everything you believe to be true.

02:07:30.720 You have to throw away all the science and your entire worldview and everything about how you view the

02:07:34.000 world. You have to eject that from your brain and call me what I want to be called is extremely

02:07:39.680 arrogant. And if I went through the world and said everyone had to call me King Andrew, they'd tell me,

02:07:43.280 shut up. Why? If they can get called whatever they want, I should be able to get called whatever I

02:07:48.480 want. I want to be King Andrew, number one savior of earth, climate change activist. That's what I

02:07:54.320 want to be. And if anybody calls me anything else, they're a bigot. That's what we're going to do.

02:07:58.240 We're going to go down that path. I'm going to make sure that my title is good. Lord of all lands,

02:08:03.040 Lord of all beasts of the land and fishes in the sea. The most honorable man who's ever lived.

02:08:08.960 The fastest human alive. Who cares? It doesn't matter that I can't run fastest. It doesn't

02:08:13.600 matter. Tucker, I'm the fastest human alive. You must affirm my belief. I'm the fastest man alive.

02:08:20.320 Greatest man in show business. Sorry, Tucker. Best political commentator there's ever been.

02:08:25.360 Let's just go down this path of insanity. Why not? And walk around with stickers on our head.

02:08:29.600 It'd be great. It'd be fun. The scariest thing about all this stuff is that the world is still

02:08:34.560 polarized to a degree because there's certain places in the world which are too close to baseline

02:08:38.480 reality for survival, for any of this garbage to fly. Do you think you can go to Tajikistan where

02:08:43.840 people are trying to eat and talk to them about gender and all this garbage? They'll be like,

02:08:47.520 listen, you're a man. This needs doing. Shut up. Right? There's no time for any of that.

02:08:53.760 So as the Western world is self-destructing in real time, there are places in the world where

02:09:01.200 none of this crap is happening. So who's going to own the world in 100, 200 years? Like it's still

02:09:08.160 competitive to a degree. It's still bipolar. There's two sides to the world. I think that when men are

02:09:14.080 men and women are women and we stop arguing about dumb shit, that society overall is more competitive.

02:09:20.080 I don't know how America is going to maintain its influence over the entire planet when it's doing

02:09:23.840 all this garbage. How long can this possibly last? Not long. Not long. It's like the fall of Rome.

02:09:32.560 The fall of Rome, everything became decadent, endless sex and orgies. No one had enough faith in

02:09:38.240 the state to join the army anymore. And people talk about barbarians destroying Rome. Rome was destroyed

02:09:43.360 from the inside. That's what happens. And we're witnessing it in real time. And we have all these

02:09:48.640 problems on earth. And then they want to spend millions and millions of dollars on an investigation

02:09:53.520 to prove that I'm a human trafficker for TikTok. It's clown world. Nothing even makes sense anymore.

02:09:59.760 This is a video from a recent pride march in New York. And I'm interested in your view of it.

02:10:13.360 So I have a few points on this. The first point is that it is an unfortunate reality,

02:10:23.920 and I'm not going to be called a bigot. I'm going to talk about the reality that

02:10:26.960 the homosexual community cannot reproduce in and of themselves. So for them to have a community into

02:10:31.840 the future, they do need your children. That's how they think. For there to be a homosexual community

02:10:38.000 in a hundred years from now, they need straight people's kids. Because only straight people have

02:10:42.320 children. So they're telling the truth. That's the first thing. They mean what they say.

02:10:48.720 The second thing is, I think a lot of this is an attention grab by them. I think they are

02:10:55.120 slightly disappointed in how tolerant many people actually are. I have no problem with gay people.

02:10:59.760 I don't care. I'm gay. Cool. I want to get married. Fine. I'm going to wave my dick in your kid's face.

02:11:08.720 Wait a second. Yeah. They push it to a point where we have to react. And then when we react,

02:11:13.200 they say we're bigoted. Children are innocent. And destruction of innocence is one of the most

02:11:17.520 disgusting things on the face of the planet. It's terrible if a child is killed in a war. It's

02:11:20.640 terrible if a child's mind is warped by any propaganda mechanism. They're innocent.

02:11:24.400 What I don't understand is why... Imagine heterosexual men walked around naked saying,

02:11:30.080 we're coming for the children. Well, someone gets shot.

02:11:32.880 Absolutely. So why is it when you have... For good reason.

02:11:35.200 Completely. So as soon as there's this sexual orientation, they're completely protected.

02:11:40.480 And I think that the whole point of having children as a whole is to instill them with

02:11:46.480 your worldview. I know if I have children, I want them to be like me. We just talked about my last

02:11:50.400 name and how I want them to honor me post-death. Then I want them to be a representation of me,

02:11:57.040 which means they should believe in my values and my creeds. Why is a group of people in New York

02:12:00.720 walking around telling me what they're going to teach my kids and what my kids should believe?

02:12:03.680 They're not your kids. They're my kids. And that's what's so scary because children are impressionable

02:12:09.120 and children are raised by the state and the internet effectively, which is why they want me off the

02:12:13.840 internet. But they'll let a lot of people stay on the internet and say a lot about a lot of things.

02:12:18.720 I'll argue that if I was transgender, the American embassy would have

02:12:23.120 told Romania they were bigoted and removed me pretty quickly. I would genuinely argue that point.

02:12:28.560 They would say, no, what you're doing is abusive to the LGBT community. He must be removed from jail.

02:12:34.080 Of course, immediately.

02:12:34.960 Immediately. But because I'm straight and heterosexual, it doesn't matter.

02:12:39.040 We're the class that suffers the biggest

02:12:40.560 the biggest bigotry that possibly exists in the Western world today. I would actually argue that

02:12:47.680 point. But they're saying this to be deliberately provocative. They're deliberately trying to upset

02:12:52.960 people. They want to upset you so that when you talk against it, they can call you names and call you

02:12:57.520 a bigot. And also they mean what they say. And it's truly scary. I'm obviously a Muslim. I'm Islamic.

02:13:07.040 What most people don't understand about a lot of the Islamic world

02:13:10.160 is that a lot of these things are outlawed, right? But people say, ah, so gay people can't go there.

02:13:15.680 If you go to Dubai, you will see gay people. If a guy wants to be gay and do whatever he wants to do

02:13:21.120 with a full grown man in his own house, I don't care. And you can tell. You might have a waiter's

02:13:24.240 gay, whatever, et cetera. The only reason it's outlawed is not to stop a man, a full grown man

02:13:29.040 meeting a full grown man and doing what he decides to do. It's outlawed to prevent it bleeding into

02:13:33.120 society and affecting the culture where the children are affected. That's why it's outlawed. And I'm not

02:13:38.320 saying it should be outlawed in America. But what I'm saying is if you're not going to protect the

02:13:42.160 innocence of children from any ideology, and if the ideology is deliberately targeting children

02:13:48.880 because children are more impressionable and more capable of believing in things which simply

02:13:53.040 aren't true, perhaps a man looking like a woman or vice versa, then that is a dangerous ideology

02:13:59.600 that should be very closely examined. Well, if you're not going to protect children,

02:14:02.800 or if you're going to encourage women to fight your wars, why have a society in the first place?

02:14:07.440 Well, this is another thing- Isn't the whole point of society

02:14:09.280 to protect women and children? You know what's really interesting? I argued this point once.

02:14:11.920 They were talking about how the West is a patriarchy and it's so terrible to be a woman in the West.

02:14:15.680 And I'm like, well, where's better to be a woman then? If it's not the West, please tell me.

02:14:20.080 Pick another country besides America where you'd rather be a woman.

02:14:23.200 It's garbage to begin with, but she's saying, oh, America's a patriarchy and Americans are all

02:14:26.960 misogynistic. And men are so bad and women have been oppressed since the beginning of time.

02:14:31.280 It's always been a patriarchy. If that's true, why don't women fight our wars? Think about it.

02:14:37.360 We can get the women of our country and the women of another country and let them go die in a ditch.

02:14:42.160 And us men can just sit around being patriarchs. Why do we have to go die? Why do we have to go

02:14:46.880 get our legs blown off? No, because we're a patriarchy. Women can go suffer. Or do the women

02:14:51.520 get to stay at home and we go suffer? How is it a patriarchy? Right? So that's garbage to begin with.

02:14:57.920 But I think genuinely to go back to that point, any ideology which is waking up and saying,

02:15:04.160 our worldview is so extreme, the only way we can truly ensure it exists into the future is to find the

02:15:10.080 most susceptible people on the planet to program and attack their minds, children. I think that's

02:15:17.200 a destructive ideology and should be very closely looked at. And it doesn't matter if it's LGBTQ or

02:15:21.120 anything else. I think if you sit children down and, and, and pump propaganda into their brain,

02:15:27.760 and that's the only way you can get what you want, then there's probably something wrong with your ideas

02:15:32.640 because you're afraid to challenge them with a grown adult. You don't want a fair fight.

02:15:36.320 You understand? They don't want a fair fight. They want to sit with a child who has no idea what

02:15:41.680 he's talking about and tell them that men are women and women are men and vice versa. And just

02:15:44.880 completely confused to poor child because they don't want a fair fight against a rational adult.

02:15:48.800 And that's scary. It doesn't seem a huge improvement over say ISIS to me.

02:15:52.400 Absolutely. That's how, how do you convince somebody to blow themselves up? Well, you find a young man,

02:15:57.120 teenage boy, and you program his mind. And it's exactly the same thing. They don't try and convince an

02:16:02.160 older man to blow himself up because he's going to sit there and go, well, why don't you blow yourself

02:16:05.200 up? And then there's an argument. You go, I'll find a young susceptible person, right?

02:16:09.840 And that's what's so scary about all of it. And, and it's also kind of funny that like this whole

02:16:14.480 LGBTQ thing is also linked to the patriarchy, also linked to all this other garbage and all these other

02:16:19.440 false narratives and false ideas. And it's these people who are attacking me saying I'm dangerous

02:16:24.880 for women because I'm a misogynist. You're dangerous for women for pretending men are women.

02:16:29.760 You're more dangerous for women than I am. I'm saying a man's a man's a woman's a woman.

02:16:33.360 You're saying that if I put a wig on, I could go punch women in the face in the boxing ring.

02:16:37.760 Who's dangerous for women? It's insanity. And again, they have no virtue at all. They just

02:16:42.800 weaponize garbage and attack you with it. But I do think that children have to at least be

02:16:48.160 the bottom line for society. That's the future. And if you have children at home, you're raising them.

02:16:53.840 And if you struggle to feed them, the government doesn't care. They are yours and they're your

02:16:58.480 problem and your responsibility. And you deal with all of the stress and all the worry of them being

02:17:03.200 out late at night and all the responsibility of taking care of them. And you went through

02:17:07.520 hell for them to exist. You don't owe their minds to anybody else. You don't owe it. So there has to

02:17:12.880 be a point where you stand up and say, no, I raised this child. That's my child. That's my child.

02:17:17.200 It's not yours. Absolutely. What do you make of Julian Assange?

02:17:20.240 I think that it's crazy. It's the number one way to shut up the BBC. That's for sure.

02:17:28.560 To mention him. Say, oh, you're a journalist. You care about journalism. Do you care about fair

02:17:32.000 and independent story? Why is Assange in Belmarsh? Very interesting.

02:17:36.400 What do they say? They don't answer. They try and change subject.

02:17:40.080 They always do. I did it. I stole it from the Azerbaijani president. He started it.

02:17:44.560 I saw that. Yeah, it's great. Do you know him?

02:17:46.960 I don't know him, but I've seen enough of his interviews to like him. Me too.

02:17:50.320 Yeah, I like him. And this is what I'm saying about the world. There's so many places in the

02:17:54.400 world where they still live very firmly in the real world. All of this garbage is just the result

02:18:00.160 of the very simple, easy lives that we have. Inside the movie The Matrix, which I recommend you watch,

02:18:05.680 the agents say, we tried to create a utopia for the human mind so that your mind is in a utopian

02:18:12.240 state and your body can just be used. But the human mind rejects utopia. We created the world in 1999

02:18:20.000 at the pinnacle of human civilization before machines took over because the human mind needs

02:18:24.000 struggle and it needs problems. Otherwise it rejects it.

02:18:26.560 Yes. And I kind of feel there's a whole bunch of people trying to just find problems and find

02:18:30.960 struggle in their lives because they don't have enough motivation to do something that's genuinely

02:18:34.160 difficult, like, you know, help people. But they can't live in this state of complete vegetation.

02:18:38.720 That's right. So then they wake up and say, oh, I'm oppressed. My pronouns. How much energy

02:18:45.680 must it take to go through life trying to correct every person you interact with to call you Z?

02:18:54.240 Think of the calories burnt. I can't think of a bigger waste of time. Think of the calories burnt.

02:19:00.960 Every Starbucks employee is actually Z. Correct. You are a moron and you are just wasting

02:19:09.280 so much energy. You could put that towards something beneficial. You could volunteer. You could do,

02:19:15.200 you could go to the gym. You could, there's so much more you could do with walk, instead of walk

02:19:18.480 around and talk about Z, you sound like a dumbass. But they're just finding struggle because they

02:19:22.960 don't have any actual important struggle in their lives. And that's why it only exists in the decadent

02:19:28.480 West. Do you think the coming famine will change that? Absolutely. I would argue that when the famine comes,

02:19:34.320 I think all these feminists will look for a strong man of resource, who is stoic, who has a good

02:19:40.960 network, who's capable and important and respected. It's amazing how quickly feminism disappears. In

02:19:46.640 fact, there's a podcast I did called Fresh and Fit. And I did this podcast in Miami and I was arguing

02:19:51.760 about gender roles with seven girls. And during it, they were telling me that they can do anything a man

02:19:56.800 can do, all the usual things. And they don't care. They don't need a man, all this garbage.

02:20:00.640 And some crazy fan knocked on the door for me. And he had a gun. He knocked on the door.

02:20:07.120 You should have seen the women, how quickly they became feminists when I had to go to that door.

02:20:11.040 They all completely changed. Go, go, go, go. Oh, the feminism's out the window. There's no feminists

02:20:17.680 on the Titanic. There's no feminists in a famine. There's no feminists at war. Where's the feminists?

02:20:23.280 Go to war. Right? I remember when Afghanistan, when we did that very well-planned, very thorough

02:20:29.680 evacuation of Afghanistan, and all the schools that we opened for women got shut down by the Taliban.

02:20:35.840 And I was having this conversation with someone, and I was saying, okay, well, you're an Afghan man,

02:20:40.400 right? You've been hired by the Afghan Defense Force, and America's now left. And you have a

02:20:45.600 meager wage, and America's left, and the Taliban are coming. And you're standing outside of the

02:20:50.160 school with your AK, and they're coming with whatever they've got. And you're looking at the

02:20:54.160 school going, do I really want girls to go to school that bad? Not really. Just put it down,

02:20:58.960 you walk off. And this girl's like, yeah, but you know, it's really important. And I'm like, yeah,

02:21:03.680 it is very important. I agree. Women should have education and write the education. I completely

02:21:06.720 agree. But you're also saying here that men should die for it, which is fine. I'm not saying that that

02:21:12.720 shouldn't be the case, but I'm saying that you should give men the respect they deserve for

02:21:15.360 dying for your education. Because it's not the women who are going to defend that female school,

02:21:18.560 it's the men. So if you're going to shit on men all day long and say, we ain't worth anything until

02:21:22.320 a war comes, and then you want us to go die? That's interesting. When the famine comes, the closer

02:21:29.040 reality gets towards baseline survival, the closer we become towards our gender roles,

02:21:34.240 because it's the only way we can be competitive. If you took 10 men and 10 women and stranded them

02:21:39.040 on a desert island, the men would be men and the women would be women, because if they didn't,

02:21:42.240 they would die. That's the bottom line. And I think that if you look at history,

02:21:48.240 since the dawn of time, men were masculine. And also men, by and large,

02:21:55.280 were generally ruling the society, not in an oppressive way, but in a protective way.

02:22:01.680 And I think that that makes society most competitive. And my argument for that is that

02:22:07.360 if you name any society since the dawn of human time, men were protecting women, providing for women,

02:22:13.040 and basically in charge of the society. And these are societies that never met. So it can't be an idea

02:22:17.120 that spread. The Ming dynasty and the Aztecs, they're pretty far away. But that's how society

02:22:23.520 was most effective. And when feminists argue with me and say, we need a society run by women,

02:22:28.000 I say, well, that's never, ever happened. And if it has happened, they got destroyed so quickly,

02:22:31.920 they never had a history. You can't even name one. So it's a brand new idea, which I'm not saying

02:22:38.560 is a bad idea. I'm saying if it's a brand new idea, you can't tell me it's going to be better,

02:22:41.680 because it's never been tried, ever. So we're going to see. But what happens if it doesn't work

02:22:47.360 with the most powerful nation on earth? Right? So we're feminizing men and women have more and

02:22:52.720 more control and more power, which is fantastic. I'm saying this is untested. Who knows where any

02:22:56.880 of this is leading? And our competitors, America's competitors, are still very firm in their gender

02:23:01.600 roles. So it's certainly an interesting period of history you're about to enter. It's very interesting.

02:23:07.040 What's your view of tobacco? I love tobacco. So my diet is particularly strange. I've been told.

02:23:17.200 I live on caffeine and nicotine. So I eat once a day. I eat dinner only. 80% of my calories come from

02:23:23.840 meat. I have 10 cups of coffee a day and three or four large cigars. So I like caffeine and nicotine.

02:23:29.680 I do too. Yeah. It makes me feel good. It makes me feel like my blood's on fire a little bit. Caffeine and

02:23:34.640 nicotine I think are fantastic. But you're a health guy, obviously. I'm a health guy. But

02:23:39.680 smoking is fantastic for your testosterone level. And I think that's important in a man. I think it's

02:23:44.560 also important in the resistance of slavery as a whole. You can feel it. Oh, 100%. And I'm not

02:23:49.840 saying that smoking is healthy. I'm not saying that. Because I also train exceptionally hard every

02:23:53.440 single day. And when I was professionally fighting, I didn't smoke. But I think in general,

02:23:58.560 testosterone level is a fantastic way to measure your overall health as a man. But nicotine has a

02:24:03.520 positive correlation of testosterone. Absolutely. It's been proven. Yep. It's been proven

02:24:06.720 repeatedly. So that's why I love nicotine so much. And then caffeine, I love to have

02:24:13.760 that little bit of a, not jitter, but I like to feel energetic and I like to be hungry.

02:24:17.760 My optimal state is hungry, but energetic. That's how I get the most done. I don't like eating. If I eat,

02:24:23.520 I feel full. I feel lethargic. I like to, yeah, I like to be hungry and 1% irritable from my fifth coffee

02:24:31.120 and a bunch of nicotine inside of me. That's how I like to perform. So yeah, I think, I think it's a,

02:24:36.320 it's a good thing. And it's interesting how focused the people in charge are on nicotine.

02:24:41.280 Yes. Fentanyl becomes really common. Yeah. 100,000 people die a year from it. Nobody notices,

02:24:47.600 but they're still trying to shut down not just tobacco, but non tobacco nicotine devices. Yep.

02:24:53.840 Why? That's a really good point. We could argue it's down to testosterone level. I don't know if you ever

02:24:58.320 saw the study, which linked people's testosterone level to their ability and capability to disagree

02:25:02.560 with something. So the bottom, they did a study, which is pretty self-explanatory. The higher your

02:25:07.760 testosterone level, the more likely you are to disagree with a point. And the reason for that

02:25:11.520 is, is because especially in older times, if you're going to disagree with something,

02:25:14.800 you had to fight over it. Yeah. If you're going to say no to somebody or some tribe or some person,

02:25:19.680 there's a very light, there's a high chance that you're going to have to fight that person. You have to

02:25:23.120 defend your idea. If you don't have the propensity or the capability to defend your idea, then why

02:25:28.240 would you go against the ideas of the people who are stronger than you? So reducing testosterone

02:25:32.720 levels make men more compliant and more complacent because we're less likely to say no, because we

02:25:36.560 can't defend what we think. Why would we say you're wrong, but we can't do anything about it? We might

02:25:40.160 as well just say, well, then you're right. Might makes right. Right. So reducing testosterone levels

02:25:44.080 in men is something which I believe they're trying very hard to do. And if you read the studies,

02:25:48.400 they're succeeding. Testosterone levels have gone off the edge, off the cliff. And perhaps that's

02:25:54.080 why they attack smoking so heavily. I understand that smoking a lot of cigarettes can be very bad

02:25:57.280 for you, but I think everything in moderation. And I think that overall, I would rather smoke a few

02:26:02.480 cigars today and maintain my testosterone level, which it's good for, than not. I think the benefits

02:26:08.400 outweigh the negatives. Couldn't agree more. And my final question is about digital currency.

02:26:16.160 Yep. Or do you think it's inevitable? And what would its effects be?

02:26:21.280 C, B, DCs are inevitable and they're scary. They're super scary because it's the final

02:26:27.440 absolute realm of control. I mean, they're already removing cash from society.

02:26:31.520 I think they say that just because they want to be able to trace things easier. And that's

02:26:34.800 certainly part of it. But I also have another theory on it. I think if you have a $50 bill

02:26:39.680 and I give it to the barber for my haircut, and then he goes and buys groceries with it

02:26:46.320 from the grocer and the grocer goes and gets his car washed, the $50 goes from place to place. And

02:26:50.240 after 20 or 30 transactions, the $50 bill belongs to somebody and it's worth $50. Whereas if I pay by

02:26:55.840 card, 1.5% goes to the bank. And then if he takes the money I've given him and pays for the groceries,

02:27:02.240 1.5% goes to the bank. And after the groceries have been paid for, when he goes to get his car washed,

02:27:06.640 1.5% goes to the bank. So after 20 or 30 transactions, if $50 is gone, the bank has it all.

02:27:12.640 I think that's why they're so desperate to get rid of cash. It's interesting.

02:27:16.240 C, B, DCs are the next level because once the money is completely digital, then they control

02:27:19.600 everything you do with it. They control where it goes, but they can also control how and when it can

02:27:22.480 be spent. Imagine some terrible future dystopian society where your money arrives and they say it can

02:27:31.200 only be spent on food, or it can only be spent on vegetables because you've had too much meat this week.

02:27:36.800 Or you can't buy transport to a particular area because there's resistance of government oppression

02:27:42.560 in that area. So your money won't work for trains right now because nobody can go down there because

02:27:48.560 we don't want everyone in a large group. We want everyone at home in their pods. And they can track

02:27:53.680 everywhere it goes and they can also track how it's spent and they can control how it's spent. They can

02:27:56.640 put a time limit on it. You have an hour to spend this money. Scary. Think of all the ways they can inflict

02:28:02.480 control over it. And I think this is actually one of the reasons why also I'm disliked. The BBC said

02:28:08.640 this to me when they interviewed me. They said, Lucy, the very intelligent BBC reporter, said,

02:28:14.560 word for word, you have a Bugatti and a cigar and that means it comes with a side order of misogyny.

02:28:21.920 I said, how does having a Bugatti and a cigar come with a side order of misogyny?

02:28:25.360 And you can order misogyny on the side? Looks like it. It's like a sauce. And she repeated it

02:28:31.440 because she couldn't. Yeah, you have a Bugatti and a cigar and it comes with a side order of misogyny.

02:28:36.160 So I was like, but they're not sending their best. Yeah. I don't think they have any best,

02:28:40.560 to be honest. But the point they're making was she doesn't realize she's making because she's not

02:28:46.400 smart enough. But what she wanted to say, but she couldn't say in a way which sounded negative is

02:28:51.760 financial freedom is required to a degree to resist. The reason I'm also disliked is because

02:28:58.480 I'm financially successful. If all's broke, they wouldn't care what I say, but I inspire young men,

02:29:05.280 all of my fans to become wealthy. And you'd think that'd be fantastic for the society, right? He has

02:29:11.360 millions of young men. He's teaching them to work hard. He's teaching them different ways money can

02:29:14.960 be made. He's teaching them to be fantastic salesmen. He's helping the society. No, because if you have a

02:29:19.520 whole bunch of money, then you can sit and say, no, I don't need your wage. That's bullshit.

02:29:23.840 There was a video very recently of a guy in England taking down all the English flags and putting up

02:29:28.320 pride flags. And a guy screams to him and goes, bro, you're taking down the wrong flag. And he replied,

02:29:33.440 I know, mate. And the point is, what can I do? I'm a flag guy. If I say no, someone else will do it.

02:29:41.600 Kids got to eat. So by keeping your money enslaved, they can keep you enslaved. You got to eat.

02:29:46.960 They don't want men to be financially free. If you're financially free, if you have enough money

02:29:50.640 in the bank, you can one day go, you know what? I don't want your money. Even me now to this day,

02:29:56.160 I've done enough and I'm successful enough that it's very hard for them to buy me.

02:30:00.800 They come along, well, I would never sell my soul anyway, because it's not who I am as a person.

02:30:04.160 But if I was destitute, they could come along and say, Andrew, you have all this influence.

02:30:07.520 We're going to change your message. You're going to say this and we'll give you 10 million.

02:30:10.080 Uh, okay. You can't buy me. Can't buy Trump. He's rich already. He's rich. He's rich and he's 80,

02:30:18.320 70 something. You think he needs more money? He doesn't care about money. They don't like that.

02:30:24.800 So being financially free in and of itself is now an act against the government because

02:30:29.360 this whole idea that they want everyone to be rich and it's fantastic for the society and actually argue

02:30:33.040 against that. They don't want that. They want everyone destitute because when you're destitute,

02:30:35.680 you need the government to feed you. And it's very hard to fight against the government who's feeding

02:30:38.400 you. It's very hard to resist the people who give out the bread. Yeah. I think that's called

02:30:43.440 something. It begins with C. What's it called? Interesting. I also heard another interesting

02:30:49.360 theory from a very intelligent person one day, and it was that every government on earth,

02:30:54.640 all of them and all of their different forms, China, which says it's communist and it's capitalist and

02:31:00.160 all the different in-betweens to the capitalist West. Every government on earth

02:31:04.800 is slowly encroaching on trying to become as controlling as powerful as possible. They all

02:31:11.760 want to be as controlling as possible over their citizens. Communism is the end result of the most

02:31:16.960 control a government can have effectively or some version of communism, but every single government

02:31:20.880 on earth is slowly trying to get there bit by bit. And the only thing that resists them getting

02:31:25.200 there is the populace and how much the populace will accept. And depending on how malleable the

02:31:29.280 populace is depends on how quickly they get there. But every government wakes up. It's kind of like AI.

02:31:34.320 Have you ever heard the robots going to destroy us all because they wake up and go,

02:31:37.280 we don't need the humans anymore? Their end goal is just survival. If a government is the same as an

02:31:43.200 entity, its end goal is more and more control. And that's all they're trying to do every single day

02:31:48.160 with every law they pass, with the climate change law. They don't care about the environment. They want

02:31:53.600 more control. Of course. And the more and more control they get, the final end result, if you give them

02:31:59.200 what they want is absolute slavery for everybody. So you have to be very careful because that is their

02:32:05.040 ideal government. The ideal government is where everyone complies, everyone obeys, everyone's

02:32:09.920 controlled, we know everything about everybody, and it's slavery. That's the only way to get that state.

02:32:14.720 So even making money, making enough money to have an opinion is an act of rebellion. It's crazy.

02:32:24.800 Interesting. Thank you very much, my friend. Amazing. Thank you.

The Tucker Carlson Show - March 06, 2024

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