The Tucker Carlson Show - Ben of Ben & Jerry’s Exposes the Motives Behind War With Russia & the Politicians That Sold Out

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00:00:30.300 Ben Cohen moved to Vermont in 1977

00:00:33.020 and co-founded an ice cream company that bears his name, Ben & Jerry's.

00:00:38.060 They made great ice cream.

00:00:39.800 They still do.

00:00:40.980 Ben Cohen became famous for his liberal political activism.

00:00:44.780 The ice cream was great.

00:00:45.840 His political opinions were deeply offensive to most conservatives.

00:00:49.920 Fast forward to 2022,

00:00:52.100 and Ben Cohen was one of the only liberals in the United States

00:00:55.580 to come out against the war in Ukraine.

00:00:58.260 It seems like a good moment to pause and reconsider

00:01:03.780 whether some of Ben Cohen's views on war are maybe not insane.

00:01:09.520 Maybe they're worth hearing.

00:01:11.140 Here's Ben Cohen.

00:01:11.960 So, you brought a book by Smedley Darlington Butler,

00:01:38.560 the most decorated Marine in the world.

00:01:41.840 One, he's a Marine general.

00:01:42.880 He won two medals of honor.

00:01:44.580 And he wrote a book called War is a Racket.

00:01:49.860 And for some reason,

00:01:51.100 it's not the most famous book ever written in English,

00:01:53.080 but it probably should be.

00:01:54.660 What is that and why did you bring it?

00:01:56.780 Well, I've been kind of inspired by this quote of his.

00:02:03.020 I think he encapsulates what's been going on

00:02:08.780 in terms of how our military has been used.

00:02:13.200 And, you know, he's been there, done that.

00:02:16.260 That's for sure.

00:02:16.660 And I think about it a lot in terms of, you know,

00:02:21.660 all these refugees, immigrants that are trying to get to the U.S.

00:02:28.140 And why are they trying to get to the U.S.?

00:02:32.820 A lot of times it's because the U.S.

00:02:36.860 at some point in history overthrew or invaded their government or...

00:02:42.660 Well, let's, I'll tell you what Smedley says here.

00:02:47.020 Can I quote?

00:02:47.940 Please.

00:02:49.000 So he says,

00:02:49.700 I spent 33 years and four months in active military service.

00:02:55.120 And during that period,

00:02:56.140 I spent most of my time as a high-class muscle man for big business,

00:03:01.260 for Wall Street and the bankers.

00:03:04.560 Butler wrote in 1955.

00:03:07.540 Then he goes on,

00:03:08.640 In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

00:03:12.660 I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests.

00:03:16.520 I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for national city bank boys to collect revenues.

00:03:23.140 I helped in the raping of a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. 0.70

00:03:29.560 I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1902 to 1912.

00:03:36.600 I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916.

00:03:43.400 I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903.

00:03:48.280 In China in 1927, I helped set it up so that standard oil went on its way unmolested.

00:03:57.640 Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints.

00:04:02.640 The best he could do was to operate in three city districts.

00:04:06.520 We Marines operated on three continents.

00:04:08.960 So this was a major general in the United States Marine Corps.

00:04:14.060 The single most decorated Marine when he wrote that.

00:04:18.660 And I think he's pretty much forgotten now.

00:04:22.500 Yeah.

00:04:22.940 And he was much maligned after he said that.

00:04:26.460 Yeah, very much.

00:04:27.560 So you think, I guess, in another way of saying you think that our military heroes are the most revered people in our country.

00:04:34.380 You can't criticize a man who's received two medals of honor.

00:04:38.140 And yet he crossed the line and they hated him for that.

00:04:42.600 Yeah, but he told the truth.

00:04:45.340 So how do you, how is that relevant to right now?

00:04:49.400 I think that those actions that the U.S. has done over the years back in his time and pretty much continues to do to essentially run the world in a way that benefits the elites in the United States ends up causing a lot of resentment,

00:05:11.280 ends up being the cause of a lot of wars, ends up being the cause of a lot of immigration and people trying to flee countries that are economically or politically unlivable.

00:05:28.560 And if you go back to the root causes, you find out that there were, you know, some great liberation struggles in these countries and the U.S. was on the other side.

00:05:42.500 Yes.

00:05:43.660 What's interesting is that Spendley, General Butler, wrote that, you know, years after he left the Marine Corps, he was a hero in World War I when we were, you know, working to stop the Kaiser.

00:05:54.940 You know, many Americans killed to stop the Kaiser.

00:05:58.300 No one even remembers what a Kaiser is.

00:06:00.700 But that was a war.

00:06:02.120 The first real war was a war for democracy and freedom.

00:06:07.320 It didn't work, of course.

00:06:09.380 But we're hearing the same slogans now with Ukraine.

00:06:14.060 And as then, a lot of really decent, you know, good-hearted people with the right motives are buying it completely.

00:06:21.780 It's not just warmongers who are in favor of these wars.

00:06:24.540 It's like you're a next-door neighbor who's a good person.

00:06:27.720 Yeah, I think that's really true.

00:06:29.920 The way a lot of people see it is, you know, this little country, Ukraine, got invaded by this big giant Russia.

00:06:39.400 But I think what you need to understand is what provoked that war and how it could have been prevented.

00:06:48.100 You know, at the end of the Cold War, the U.S. made promises to Russia that they're not going to expand NATO eastward.

00:07:00.960 And then we proceeded to expand NATO eastward.

00:07:07.600 As a matter of fact, you know, there was – the government was not going to do that until the weapons manufacturers set up this committee to expand NATO, which was essentially the CEOs of the weapons manufacturers lobbying Congress to expand NATO.

00:07:30.820 So, I mean, geez, if you're a weapons manufacturer and you expand NATO, they're going to buy a lot of your stuff.

00:07:38.900 Why would the – well, first let me ask, do you think it's a reasonable request by Russia not to have NATO expand to its borders?

00:07:45.520 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:48.040 I mean, in the same way that, you know, the United States says that, what, there's our sphere of influence.

00:07:57.820 Yes.

00:07:58.800 You know, I remember learning about this in, what was it, elementary school or middle school, that the Monroe Doctrine.

00:08:08.720 Yes.

00:08:11.060 It's our divine right from God.

00:08:14.520 To control our hemisphere.

00:08:15.520 To control our hemisphere.

00:08:17.300 And it sounded crazy to me then.

00:08:21.780 And, you know, I can see making sure that there's not enemies right on your borders.

00:08:29.940 But in terms of controlling the whole hemisphere, I don't buy it.

00:08:34.660 And the U.S. has now expanded its sphere of influence to include the entire world.

00:08:44.280 I mean, it's amazing.

00:08:45.520 I mean, we have military commands that cover every portion of the globe.

00:08:53.340 And we have 800 military bases around the world.

00:08:59.860 You know, when I was growing up, you know, I heard we had a bunch of overseas bases.

00:09:06.500 I figured, you know, that's cool.

00:09:08.440 You know, every country must have overseas bases.

00:09:10.620 And then, you know, I find out that the country who has the next most overseas bases has like five.

00:09:20.200 I mean, it's the U.S. that is using its military power to control the world.

00:09:29.580 And the fact of the matter is that the United States is 5% of the world population.

00:09:37.100 So, having 5% dominate the world militarily, that doesn't sound democratic to me.

00:09:48.280 No.

00:09:49.380 And it doesn't sound like it helps the United States very much.

00:09:53.640 No.

00:09:54.400 I think it's incredibly harmful to the United States.

00:09:58.060 Because, first of all, we're making a lot of enemies.

00:10:03.160 People don't like us being the big bully on the hill telling all these other countries what to do.

00:10:11.620 And it sucks a huge amount of money out of our country.

00:10:21.780 It's stuff that can be used for things that people really want and need.

00:10:28.460 You know, we could have more affordable housing.

00:10:32.300 We could make it so that the American dream could actually still happen.

00:10:37.100 That people could afford a house.

00:10:39.300 That you can get a decent education.

00:10:43.540 And that you can get child care.

00:10:47.020 That it doesn't have to cost you so much money to go to college.

00:10:49.920 I mean, these things can all be done.

00:10:52.680 And, you know, most other developed countries are providing that for their citizens.

00:10:59.440 But the U.S. chooses to spend...

00:11:02.680 I mean, look at this.

00:11:03.380 This is a chart of the federal discretionary budget.

00:11:07.400 That's the amount of money that Congress has each year to allocate to the various departments.

00:11:13.520 So the big red one on top that gets over half, that's the Pentagon.

00:11:19.280 And these little slivers are like, you know, USAID, the education department, the health department, community development, whatever else the country does.

00:11:33.480 But in terms of stuff that would actually be helpful to people living in their daily lives, it's all sucked out by the Pentagon.

00:11:44.600 You know, Martin Luther King gave this speech.

00:11:47.880 And he talked about the Pentagon being this huge demonic sucking tube that sucks out the lifeblood of things like housing, schools.

00:12:06.720 You know, everybody's school budget is always, you know, in the red.

00:12:11.840 Or, you know, can't raise enough money, got to get rid of teachers or whomever.

00:12:17.420 But...

00:12:17.660 I think that's when they shot him is when he said that.

00:12:19.920 The race stuff was fine.

00:12:21.660 That was no problem.

00:12:24.720 But it was towards...

00:12:26.360 That's true.

00:12:26.820 It is true.

00:12:27.640 That was the end of his career.

00:12:28.620 He was assassinated a year to the day after he'd made that speech.

00:12:33.520 So a year to the day?

00:12:34.940 To the day.

00:12:35.800 April 4th, 1967, he must have given that speech.

00:12:38.500 Amazing.

00:12:40.880 Wow, that's amazing.

00:12:42.140 Yeah, he...

00:12:43.400 It's one...

00:12:43.980 You know, the people in charge, I am convinced, would like Americans to hate each other on the basis of race.

00:12:49.720 They don't want you to talk about the banks or the Pentagon.

00:12:52.840 I think that's really true.

00:12:54.220 I think it is true.

00:12:55.900 Okay, so...

00:12:57.500 Back to Ukraine.

00:12:58.400 You said that there was an association of weapons manufacturers that were lobbying Congress to expand NATO.

00:13:05.660 So that seems...

00:13:08.320 It seems a little bit crazy that weapons manufacturers would be allowed to dictate foreign policy because the conflict is so obvious.

00:13:16.540 Well, it's just money.

00:13:17.720 You know, so they're lobbying.

00:13:21.360 They're giving political donations to the legislators, legalized bribery.

00:13:29.420 And, yeah, it's definitely a conflict of interest.

00:13:35.200 So that, the pie, if I were to look at the, if you didn't tell me what country that was, and you said, here's a country that spends half of, more than half of its entire discretionary budget on weapons and troops.

00:13:48.520 I would imagine a small country surrounded by enemies.

00:13:53.400 I would not imagine a continental-sized country with totally independent resources, enough energy, enough food, doesn't really need anything, that's separated from the rest of the world by the two biggest oceans.

00:14:06.380 Yeah.

00:14:07.400 That doesn't make any sense, actually.

00:14:09.560 No, it totally doesn't make any sense.

00:14:11.500 Has the U.S. been invaded before by a foreign army since 1812?

00:14:15.460 I don't think so.

00:14:16.620 No?

00:14:17.160 No.

00:14:17.520 No.

00:14:19.120 Yeah.

00:14:20.160 It's a little weird.

00:14:21.400 Yeah.

00:14:21.960 I mean, and they keep on justifying these huge expenditures by coming up with enemy after enemy after enemy.

00:14:32.160 So, you know, first it was the Soviet Union.

00:14:37.200 So the Soviet Union collapsed.

00:14:40.520 And, I mean, Gorbachev said at the time, we will deny you of an enemy.

00:14:49.020 And, you know, I assumed that the Pentagon budget was going to, you know, drop hugely because that was the whole justification for it.

00:14:59.380 But what the Pentagon did was that they came up with what was called the two-war scenario.

00:15:07.180 So now, instead of the Pentagon budget being structured to defeat the Soviet Union, now what they said is it needs to be structured to fight two medium-sized wars in two different places at the same time.

00:15:27.780 And what do you know, that's going to cost just as much as we were spending on preparing to fight the Soviet Union.

00:15:34.220 Who are the wars going to be with?

00:15:35.440 Well, I think at the time, there was the axes of evil.

00:15:41.800 What was that?

00:15:42.640 Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Cuba, probably another one.

00:15:50.080 Yeah.

00:15:51.040 It's interesting because Russia collapses, the Soviet system collapses after seven years in 1991, the summer of 91.

00:16:01.140 And I kind of assumed, I think everyone assumed that we would take the win.

00:16:06.340 Like, we were having this Cold War all these years, and they collapsed, we won, and then we could be friends and move forward because there are no more Soviet communists left.

00:16:18.580 They're gone.

00:16:19.580 Right.

00:16:20.140 And they wanted to be our friend.

00:16:21.840 I mean, I was walking on the Arbat in Moscow.

00:16:24.500 People were joyful, and they were all wearing these pins that showed a U.S. flag crossed with a Soviet flag.

00:16:35.700 They wanted to be friends.

00:16:39.580 Why didn't that happen?

00:16:40.520 Because our Cold Warriors, who for their whole life, you know, fighting the Soviet Union, that's what they were about, they wanted to continue the Cold War. 0.65

00:16:58.000 They wanted to continue having Russia as this enemy. 0.85

00:17:03.620 So, fast forward to 2022, February, and the conflict in Ukraine starts, and we're told that this is just, like, out of nowhere, like, who could have known?

00:17:18.060 And Putin wants to expand the Russian border, you know, all the way to Vienna, or all the way to London, or who knows?

00:17:25.640 But he's just an expansionist power.

00:17:27.540 He's Hitler. 0.95

00:17:28.860 And Ukraine is, like, the backstop against his expansionism, and we need to fight Russia. 0.81

00:17:37.180 You're saying that that's not actually what happened?

00:17:40.420 Right.

00:17:40.540 You know, starting with the end of the Cold War, there was a promise made to Russia that, kind of in exchange for, I think it was taking down the wall in Germany, that we're not going to extend NATO eastward.

00:18:00.480 Yes.

00:18:00.800 And I think it was James Baker, the Secretary of State, that made that promise.

00:18:06.480 And then we proceeded to expand it eastward.

00:18:12.420 There was one tranche of countries, and Russia was up in arms, and they objected in the most strenuous language, but we did it.

00:18:22.180 And then we added more countries a bunch of years later, and Russia was up in arms, objected in the most strenuous language.

00:18:32.220 And, you know, there might have been a few more.

00:18:34.780 And then there was a statement that Ukraine was going to become part of NATO, and Russia objected in the most strenuous language.

00:18:47.840 And then Russia started gathering some troops on the border, and again said, in the most strenuous language, that we will not tolerate having Ukraine part of NATO.

00:19:03.740 We want to negotiate.

00:19:06.140 They sent overtures to the U.S.

00:19:08.480 I think the U.S. did not respond.

00:19:11.880 We ignore you if we don't like you.

00:19:13.500 We don't talk to you if we don't like you.

00:19:15.060 And then they invaded, and, you know, I don't think they anticipated that they were going to end up in a proxy war with the United States.

00:19:29.520 And what's crazy about it, what drives me crazy, is that this is war.

00:19:36.820 War. 0.96

00:19:37.560 I mean, we're, you know, I'm shooting my machine gun at you. 1.00

00:19:41.040 You're dying. 1.00

00:19:41.700 You're dead.

00:19:42.180 I mean, hundreds of thousands of people on both sides have died in this war.

00:19:49.360 For what?

00:19:50.640 I mean, eventually the war is going to be over, and there's going to be some settlement.

00:19:56.920 And why can't we just skip to that stage?

00:20:02.400 Well, because you don't expend missiles doing that?

00:20:05.960 Like, I really do think that's what it's about.

00:20:10.420 You know, that's what Smedley Butler came up with.

00:20:14.040 Yeah.

00:20:14.160 I mean, you read the whole rest of his book, and he says at the end, you know, I, you know, these anti-war protesters, they're really good people.

00:20:26.640 But you're never going to stop the military-industrial-congressional complex until you take the profit out of it. 0.94

00:20:36.940 That's what's driving all this shit, is the profit that these corporations are making on making weapons, which are more and more lethal. 0.94

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00:23:18.840 So Spendley Butler, I know you know this, I think he first gave that speech in 1935-ish,

00:23:27.460 and he was later kind of lumped in with bad people as somehow a pro-Nazi,

00:23:35.220 you must be for Hitler, you know, it was like the worst slander you could level against somebody,

00:23:41.860 and that's why he's forgotten now.

00:23:44.080 Something very similar seems to be going on, where if you say what you just said, you're pro-Putin. 0.99

00:23:53.040 Yeah, which is bullshit. 0.97

00:23:54.820 I'm not pro-Putin, I'm not pro-Zelensky, I'm pro-peace, I'm pro-cease-fire, I'm pro-stop-killing-each-other. 0.97

00:24:04.780 So you've been that way, I mean, we're coming from different points of view,

00:24:11.540 but we agree, I agree strong with everything you've said.

00:24:15.660 But you're the one who's been saying the same thing for a long time,

00:24:18.480 like ever since for the 40 years I've been eating your ice cream, which is fattening, sorry, I hate to say it.

00:24:22.940 Thank you for consuming.

00:24:25.700 You wear it well, you know.

00:24:27.640 I've got to stop eating that stuff.

00:24:28.740 You know, they always say never trust a skinny ice cream man.

00:24:32.120 And excuse me, so I've been, you know, listening to your views on this for a long time,

00:24:39.720 and they haven't changed.

00:24:42.060 Do you think your views have changed?

00:24:44.300 No, my view hasn't changed, and Bernie's views certainly haven't changed.

00:24:49.800 I've been listening to him for a long time. 0.98

00:24:52.080 I tell you, it is the same freaking speech. 0.99

00:24:54.920 Yeah. 0.98

00:24:55.120 People say you should change your speech.

00:24:57.720 He says when the country finally acts in a decent way, I'll change my speech.

00:25:04.220 So, but Ukraine feels a little different.

00:25:07.760 Like all of a sudden, you know, there was always this persistent, enthusiastic, anti-war caucus on the left,

00:25:17.060 to where you're coming from, not quite mainstream Democrat, but sort of more real-fashioned Democrat.

00:25:23.300 They, like, evaporated.

00:25:25.580 Maybe Chris Hedges, Jeff Sachs, Jeffrey Sachs.

00:25:30.320 You, like, where's everybody else?

00:25:33.960 Yeah, it really split, I guess, people.

00:25:39.180 I mean, you're talking about people on the left.

00:25:43.260 I guess we could talk about people on the left.

00:25:45.020 I mean, anti-war people in general.

00:25:47.260 Yeah, whatever they are, left, right, I don't know.

00:25:49.620 Yeah, I think there's people like that on the left, right, and center.

00:25:52.860 That's 100% true.

00:25:54.360 You're exactly right.

00:25:55.560 And, in fact, there are a lot of them on the right, whatever that is.

00:25:58.600 I don't even know.

00:25:59.100 Those are fake categories at this point.

00:26:00.960 It really is.

00:26:01.880 Well, let's say it was 1985, okay?

00:26:04.720 It was 40 years ago, or 1988, when I lived in Burlington.

00:26:09.540 That was considered, like, a lefty view.

00:26:11.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:13.080 Yeah, so you're saying, right, so some of that group is, you know, behind Ukraine.

00:26:20.780 Let's defend Ukraine.

00:26:21.940 And some of that group is saying, no, we shouldn't be involved in this war.

00:26:28.100 You know, I think the people who are saying, let's defend Ukraine,

00:26:33.100 I can certainly understand it from their point of view.

00:26:37.100 And their point of view is that Russia made an unprovoked invasion,

00:26:45.000 and Russia, therefore, started this war,

00:26:48.720 and they're trying to take over this country, 0.69

00:26:51.320 and we should defend that country.

00:26:56.680 But people don't understand what led up to it.

00:27:01.140 I mean, as a matter of fact, with the Eisenhower Media Network,

00:27:05.620 this group of retired admirals, generals, and colonels,

00:27:10.020 we took out a full-page ad in the New York Times

00:27:13.320 at the very beginning of that war, calling for a ceasefire.

00:27:18.080 And the headline of the ad was supposed to be,

00:27:25.700 the U.S. provoked the war in Ukraine.

00:27:28.640 And the New York Times would not allow us to run it as an ad.

00:27:32.220 What?

00:27:32.820 They would not allow us to use that headline.

00:27:36.960 Why?

00:27:38.120 But it's an ad.

00:27:39.360 Right.

00:27:39.600 It doesn't seem right, but, I mean,

00:27:43.740 so that was on that thing, but, I mean,

00:27:46.460 in the run-up to the...

00:27:48.200 Wait, Cass, wait.

00:27:49.600 So this is another, like,

00:27:51.700 I don't think North Korea has a propaganda initiative

00:27:54.640 as comprehensive and aggressive as the one I saw

00:27:57.080 after the Ukraine war started.

00:27:59.360 Like, it was just like, you know,

00:28:01.660 the New York Open was taking Russian names off the scoreboard,

00:28:04.600 New York Times was editorializing

00:28:08.820 in other people's advertisements.

00:28:10.620 Like, what was that?

00:28:13.440 Yeah.

00:28:15.640 War fever?

00:28:17.260 I mean,

00:28:18.380 the reality is that

00:28:21.320 you can kind of control

00:28:27.040 what the population thinks

00:28:28.980 by the information that you give to them.

00:28:32.720 So, you know,

00:28:34.020 the U.S.

00:28:35.660 is propagandizing its own people.

00:28:39.180 You know,

00:28:39.640 every country does that.

00:28:41.460 But, you know,

00:28:44.580 there's a lot of

00:28:46.000 sins of omission

00:28:49.320 in terms of

00:28:50.580 the news that people get.

00:28:54.000 And

00:28:54.180 you never hear

00:28:57.080 Russia's point of view.

00:28:59.080 I mean,

00:29:00.460 it's amazing to me.

00:29:04.040 You know,

00:29:04.660 they wouldn't let us hear

00:29:05.640 what

00:29:06.000 Osama bin Laden was saying

00:29:08.300 after, you know,

00:29:09.440 9-11.

00:29:10.280 I noticed.

00:29:10.880 I mean,

00:29:11.860 they don't let us hear

00:29:13.040 what

00:29:13.560 the people

00:29:15.480 in China

00:29:16.520 are saying.

00:29:17.580 I mean,

00:29:17.900 you know,

00:29:18.700 so I dug around,

00:29:20.280 a friend of mine sent me,

00:29:21.840 you know,

00:29:22.660 a speech by the defense minister

00:29:24.280 of China,

00:29:25.420 and he's saying

00:29:26.360 we're not looking to

00:29:29.160 be enemies

00:29:30.560 with the U.S.

00:29:31.900 We're not,

00:29:33.340 we're looking to

00:29:34.540 develop our country

00:29:36.220 and grow

00:29:37.660 and

00:29:38.580 we can

00:29:40.620 peacefully

00:29:42.000 coexist together.

00:29:43.480 The world

00:29:44.640 is big enough

00:29:45.500 for both

00:29:46.900 of the U.S.,

00:29:47.800 but

00:29:48.100 the

00:29:49.780 explicit

00:29:51.600 policy

00:29:52.220 of the United States,

00:29:53.500 if you read

00:29:54.280 these,

00:29:54.980 I mean,

00:29:55.260 I don't know,

00:29:55.680 what the hell is this

00:29:56.360 ice cream guy doing 0.89

00:29:57.280 reading these

00:29:57.800 national security

00:29:58.660 documents?

00:29:59.360 I don't know,

00:30:00.100 but anyhow,

00:30:01.020 I read them.

00:30:03.180 And

00:30:03.440 it is the

00:30:05.780 policy of the U.S.

00:30:07.940 to maintain

00:30:09.200 hegemony.

00:30:10.800 And I didn't know

00:30:11.720 what that word meant,

00:30:12.560 but

00:30:13.920 it's the

00:30:14.600 policy of the U.S.

00:30:15.760 that

00:30:16.140 if any

00:30:17.180 country

00:30:17.780 begins to

00:30:18.560 develop

00:30:18.980 economically

00:30:19.680 or socially

00:30:20.780 you know,

00:30:23.080 toward the

00:30:23.760 level that

00:30:24.300 the U.S.

00:30:24.900 is at,

00:30:26.160 that country

00:30:27.060 is by definition

00:30:28.120 an enemy.

00:30:30.260 The

00:30:30.860 policy of the U.S.

00:30:32.420 is that

00:30:32.820 we must have

00:30:33.760 full spectrum

00:30:35.240 dominance.

00:30:36.900 And

00:30:37.160 why should

00:30:41.300 5%

00:30:42.160 of the

00:30:43.120 world

00:30:43.760 control

00:30:44.480 what's going

00:30:45.120 on in the

00:30:45.660 world?

00:30:47.400 The

00:30:47.840 Eisenhower

00:30:48.520 Institute.

00:30:50.100 Eisenhower

00:30:50.540 Media Network.

00:30:51.520 Media Network.

00:30:52.460 My apologies.

00:30:53.560 So I've never

00:30:53.940 heard of it.

00:30:54.540 Yeah,

00:30:54.780 I didn't think

00:30:55.380 you had.

00:30:56.300 Well,

00:30:56.480 I just want to

00:30:56.840 pay attention

00:30:57.200 to this.

00:30:57.840 Most people

00:30:58.080 haven't.

00:30:58.740 No,

00:31:00.020 I'm admitting

00:31:01.640 that,

00:31:02.200 both because

00:31:02.720 I want to

00:31:03.040 be honest,

00:31:03.460 but also

00:31:03.800 because

00:31:04.320 it tells

00:31:05.300 you a lot.

00:31:06.000 So this

00:31:06.340 was a group

00:31:07.240 you were

00:31:07.500 involved in

00:31:08.100 that had

00:31:08.740 flag officers

00:31:10.160 and had

00:31:10.560 generals,

00:31:11.340 admirals,

00:31:12.680 other officers

00:31:13.420 who worked

00:31:15.020 at the Pentagon,

00:31:15.560 worked in the

00:31:15.820 military.

00:31:17.440 And I've

00:31:18.060 never heard

00:31:18.420 of it.

00:31:19.000 That's kind

00:31:19.560 of interesting.

00:31:20.560 What was

00:31:20.800 their,

00:31:21.160 what kind

00:31:22.000 of people

00:31:22.380 were in it?

00:31:22.960 What was

00:31:23.180 the goal?

00:31:24.800 Well,

00:31:25.620 originally

00:31:27.700 during the

00:31:30.540 Cold War

00:31:31.140 and after

00:31:31.640 there was

00:31:32.140 the Center

00:31:32.620 for Defense

00:31:33.240 Information,

00:31:34.080 which was

00:31:34.560 a home

00:31:35.280 for retired

00:31:36.560 high-level

00:31:38.460 military

00:31:39.000 officers

00:31:39.520 that were

00:31:41.060 critical

00:31:41.500 of the

00:31:43.420 Pentagon.

00:31:44.440 And that

00:31:45.880 organization

00:31:46.680 kind of

00:31:47.480 fell on

00:31:48.740 hard times

00:31:49.420 and kind

00:31:49.860 of

00:31:50.060 twittered

00:31:50.720 away.

00:31:51.240 So myself

00:31:53.180 and a

00:31:54.140 veteran,

00:31:54.680 Danny

00:31:54.920 Serson,

00:31:56.080 decided to

00:31:58.200 start up

00:31:58.760 the Eisenhower

00:31:59.440 Media Network

00:32:00.160 as a home

00:32:01.520 for higher

00:32:03.740 level

00:32:04.340 former

00:32:06.060 military

00:32:06.500 people to

00:32:07.420 use their

00:32:08.900 credibility

00:32:09.600 on the

00:32:12.200 issue of

00:32:12.760 critiquing the

00:32:13.400 Pentagon.

00:32:13.700 Because what

00:32:14.720 usually happens

00:32:15.620 when you

00:32:16.260 critique the

00:32:17.400 Pentagon is

00:32:18.060 that you

00:32:18.420 don't have

00:32:19.260 the credentials.

00:32:21.300 You know,

00:32:21.680 you say that,

00:32:23.020 well, the

00:32:23.220 Pentagon is

00:32:23.700 doing this

00:32:24.160 weird thing

00:32:24.700 or that

00:32:25.020 screwed up

00:32:25.500 thing.

00:32:26.780 And, you

00:32:27.260 know, and

00:32:27.540 then the

00:32:28.740 Pentagon,

00:32:29.580 you know,

00:32:30.280 general gets

00:32:30.920 up there in

00:32:31.480 uniform with

00:32:32.160 all his

00:32:32.460 medals and

00:32:33.020 stuff and

00:32:33.480 says, you

00:32:34.500 know, those

00:32:34.800 guys have no

00:32:35.320 idea what

00:32:35.700 they're talking

00:32:36.120 about.

00:32:36.900 I'm the

00:32:37.720 military expert.

00:32:38.900 So the

00:32:39.840 idea of

00:32:40.500 Eisenhower

00:32:40.960 Media Network

00:32:41.600 is to have

00:32:42.380 those military

00:32:43.700 experts that

00:32:44.580 can support

00:32:46.300 a different

00:32:47.520 point of view

00:32:48.080 than what the

00:32:48.640 Pentagon is

00:32:49.160 putting in.

00:32:49.360 What kind

00:32:49.640 of response

00:32:50.160 have you had

00:32:50.720 from the

00:32:51.000 media?

00:32:54.200 You know,

00:32:54.960 those guys

00:32:56.220 are in

00:32:57.180 the media

00:32:57.580 sometimes,

00:32:58.020 but they're

00:32:58.560 certainly not

00:32:59.880 in the media

00:33:00.780 despite our

00:33:02.200 efforts as

00:33:03.760 much as

00:33:04.720 the former

00:33:06.480 high-level

00:33:08.340 military guys

00:33:09.820 that are

00:33:11.700 now being

00:33:12.340 paid by

00:33:13.700 weapons

00:33:14.400 manufacturers.

00:33:15.700 I mean,

00:33:15.940 so they're

00:33:16.340 brought on

00:33:17.080 these TV

00:33:18.460 shows,

00:33:19.100 TV talk

00:33:19.680 shows as

00:33:20.460 experts,

00:33:21.820 and they're

00:33:23.260 never identified

00:33:24.140 as in the

00:33:25.100 employ of

00:33:26.620 essentially

00:33:28.240 war profiteers.

00:33:30.100 That's actually

00:33:30.780 happened?

00:33:31.380 I speak

00:33:32.520 the truth. 1.00

00:33:33.280 I shit 1.00

00:33:34.120 you not. 1.00

00:33:36.200 I mean,

00:33:36.820 that's

00:33:37.080 disgusting.

00:33:38.000 Yes, 0.99

00:33:38.300 sir.

00:33:39.980 Huh.

00:33:40.520 I've known

00:33:41.080 a number of

00:33:41.680 them,

00:33:41.900 of course,

00:33:42.200 because I

00:33:42.420 worked at

00:33:42.700 a TV

00:33:43.020 channel.

00:33:43.640 I worked

00:33:43.840 at a bunch

00:33:44.180 of TV

00:33:44.420 channels

00:33:44.760 with a

00:33:45.440 bunch of

00:33:45.800 retired

00:33:46.200 military

00:33:46.760 officers,

00:33:47.600 you know,

00:33:49.680 on the air

00:33:50.220 lending their

00:33:50.660 expertise to

00:33:51.380 this or

00:33:51.640 that,

00:33:51.940 and some

00:33:52.200 of them

00:33:52.380 are impressive,

00:33:52.880 some of

00:33:53.240 them are

00:33:53.660 utterly 0.76

00:33:54.100 fraudulent 1.00

00:33:54.740 and stupid. 1.00

00:33:57.400 I'm thinking 1.00

00:33:57.960 of one in

00:33:58.340 particular that

00:33:58.920 doesn't know

00:33:59.720 anything.

00:34:00.240 I don't know

00:34:00.560 how he was

00:34:00.940 a general,

00:34:01.520 but,

00:34:01.800 sorry,

00:34:03.560 I didn't

00:34:05.020 realize they

00:34:05.420 were being

00:34:05.700 paid by

00:34:07.440 defense

00:34:07.820 contractors to

00:34:08.600 do that.

00:34:09.480 That's really...

00:34:10.660 And it's

00:34:12.220 not revealed.

00:34:13.340 Well,

00:34:13.540 I didn't know

00:34:14.040 it,

00:34:14.140 and I know

00:34:14.600 them.

00:34:15.200 Right,

00:34:15.680 right.

00:34:16.460 Huh.

00:34:17.320 So,

00:34:17.840 who was in

00:34:18.560 the Eisenhower

00:34:19.180 Media Network

00:34:19.700 or is in

00:34:20.320 it?

00:34:21.620 What kind

00:34:22.200 of people?

00:34:23.480 Larry

00:34:24.040 Wilkerson,

00:34:24.840 he was a

00:34:25.400 former assistant

00:34:26.720 to Colin

00:34:27.300 Powell.

00:34:29.120 I remember

00:34:29.420 him well.

00:34:30.740 Matt Ho,

00:34:31.280 Dennis Fritz

00:34:32.060 was,

00:34:32.780 he was the

00:34:33.620 head of

00:34:33.880 Space Force

00:34:34.520 actually for

00:34:35.260 a while.

00:34:37.320 Are these

00:34:38.200 older guys,

00:34:39.620 younger guys?

00:34:41.420 We have a

00:34:42.280 range,

00:34:43.000 I'm happy

00:34:43.780 to say.

00:34:45.540 How hard

00:34:46.420 is it for

00:34:47.140 them to

00:34:47.920 join a

00:34:48.600 group like

00:34:48.980 that?

00:34:49.280 Because it

00:34:50.940 seems like

00:34:51.320 one of the

00:34:51.700 structural

00:34:52.040 problems is

00:34:52.980 that,

00:34:53.620 you know,

00:34:54.060 if you're

00:34:54.440 a one-star

00:34:55.120 and you

00:34:55.420 fail to

00:34:55.800 make two-star,

00:34:56.520 you just

00:34:56.880 like seamlessly

00:34:58.220 move over

00:34:58.800 to the

00:34:59.200 defense industry

00:35:01.180 to a weapons

00:35:02.080 manufacturer.

00:35:02.800 There's like

00:35:03.160 a place

00:35:03.580 for you.

00:35:04.900 Yeah,

00:35:05.080 I mean,

00:35:05.460 especially for

00:35:06.060 the guys

00:35:06.380 with even

00:35:06.760 more stars.

00:35:07.800 Exactly,

00:35:08.480 right?

00:35:09.000 So the

00:35:09.320 higher you

00:35:09.800 go,

00:35:10.300 the more

00:35:10.860 you make

00:35:11.200 when you

00:35:11.460 leave. 0.99

00:35:12.680 So the

00:35:12.920 incentive

00:35:13.440 doesn't end

00:35:14.720 with your

00:35:15.720 military service,

00:35:16.860 you get

00:35:17.320 paid after

00:35:17.920 you leave.

00:35:19.280 Exactly,

00:35:19.900 and you

00:35:20.180 get paid

00:35:20.900 by the

00:35:22.680 corporations

00:35:23.380 whose contracts

00:35:25.040 you were

00:35:25.560 supposedly

00:35:26.120 supervising

00:35:27.340 when you

00:35:28.940 were in

00:35:29.240 uniform.

00:35:30.600 So when

00:35:31.100 you were

00:35:31.360 making ice

00:35:31.880 cream,

00:35:32.180 would you

00:35:32.420 ever allow

00:35:33.280 a contract

00:35:34.480 set up like

00:35:35.060 that to

00:35:35.400 exist in

00:35:35.860 your company?

00:35:36.500 Never,

00:35:37.160 never.

00:35:37.660 I mean,

00:35:38.040 the conflicts

00:35:38.980 of interest

00:35:39.700 that go on

00:35:40.700 in terms

00:35:41.080 of our

00:35:41.380 government

00:35:41.760 would be

00:35:44.440 illegal

00:35:45.360 in a

00:35:45.940 publicly

00:35:46.240 held

00:35:46.520 corporation.

00:35:47.580 They'd be

00:35:47.840 illegal?

00:35:48.140 Yeah.

00:35:51.320 Yeah,

00:35:51.920 I'm asking 1.00

00:35:52.580 these dumb 0.99

00:35:53.180 questions because 0.99

00:35:53.720 I feel like

00:35:54.380 I may be

00:35:54.820 missing

00:35:55.100 something.

00:35:56.580 So the

00:35:57.860 guys who

00:35:58.540 have signed

00:35:59.340 up,

00:36:00.340 the retired

00:36:01.380 officers who

00:36:01.920 signed up

00:36:02.300 for the

00:36:02.640 Eisenhower

00:36:03.260 media project

00:36:04.820 are turning

00:36:06.080 down a lot

00:36:06.580 of money

00:36:06.860 in order

00:36:07.160 to do

00:36:07.520 that.

00:36:08.120 Yeah,

00:36:08.780 yeah,

00:36:09.280 absolutely.

00:36:10.660 And what's

00:36:11.800 their view,

00:36:12.640 would you

00:36:13.020 say?

00:36:13.720 Do they

00:36:14.720 believe that

00:36:15.380 these conflicts

00:36:15.920 are driven

00:36:16.360 by profit?

00:36:16.940 Well,

00:36:20.640 they're driven

00:36:21.500 by profit.

00:36:23.900 Sometimes

00:36:24.680 they're driven

00:36:25.900 by

00:36:26.900 politicians

00:36:29.600 not wanting

00:36:32.120 to appear

00:36:33.000 so-called

00:36:34.160 weak on

00:36:35.000 defense.

00:36:35.900 Right.

00:36:36.040 and the

00:36:37.980 only way

00:36:38.800 we judge

00:36:40.000 whether a

00:36:41.220 politician

00:36:41.780 is weak

00:36:42.700 on defense

00:36:43.300 or not

00:36:43.880 is how

00:36:44.980 much money

00:36:45.740 they are

00:36:46.880 willing to

00:36:47.480 give to

00:36:47.860 the Pentagon.

00:36:49.480 So you

00:36:50.680 have two

00:36:51.080 politicians

00:36:51.560 that are

00:36:51.960 running for

00:36:52.400 election

00:36:52.820 and

00:36:54.280 usually

00:36:55.940 they're trying

00:36:56.560 to out

00:36:57.200 compete the

00:36:57.840 other guy

00:36:58.300 in terms

00:36:58.700 who's

00:36:59.420 willing to

00:37:02.000 raise the

00:37:03.080 Pentagon

00:37:03.340 budget

00:37:03.840 because

00:37:04.880 I'm

00:37:05.540 strong

00:37:05.920 on

00:37:06.160 defense

00:37:06.640 and

00:37:07.760 that's

00:37:10.580 so this

00:37:11.920 is like

00:37:12.320 the one

00:37:13.200 area of

00:37:13.960 bipartisan

00:37:14.520 agreement.

00:37:15.800 Let's give

00:37:16.820 more and more

00:37:17.540 money to the

00:37:18.280 Pentagon and

00:37:18.940 you know

00:37:19.560 there's this

00:37:20.040 other aspect

00:37:20.940 of so-called

00:37:21.960 political

00:37:23.000 engineering

00:37:23.760 that

00:37:24.740 you know

00:37:26.600 earlier

00:37:27.240 you know

00:37:29.020 I don't

00:37:29.320 know

00:37:29.560 back in

00:37:30.260 the 90s

00:37:32.280 I guess

00:37:32.800 you know

00:37:35.300 military

00:37:36.360 contractors

00:37:37.220 would

00:37:40.320 these

00:37:41.400 weapons

00:37:41.780 manufacturers

00:37:42.560 would

00:37:43.740 deliberately

00:37:44.260 spread out

00:37:46.440 the

00:37:47.380 jobs

00:37:48.640 for a

00:37:49.780 particular

00:37:50.180 weapon

00:37:50.660 system

00:37:51.260 in as

00:37:52.780 many

00:37:53.100 congressional

00:37:53.700 districts

00:37:54.220 as

00:37:54.460 possible

00:37:54.920 and

00:37:56.420 so

00:37:57.420 you know

00:37:58.400 that

00:37:59.420 that

00:37:59.740 creates

00:38:00.220 jobs

00:38:01.260 and

00:38:01.980 you know

00:38:03.340 the

00:38:03.520 politician

00:38:04.060 from that

00:38:04.780 area

00:38:05.200 that

00:38:05.500 that's

00:38:06.020 what

00:38:06.460 they

00:38:06.780 you know

00:38:07.720 that gives

00:38:08.060 them a lot

00:38:08.400 of credit

00:38:08.880 I've brought

00:38:09.860 jobs to my

00:38:10.820 district

00:38:11.360 and so

00:38:12.780 you know

00:38:14.860 for say

00:38:15.360 the F-35

00:38:16.240 you know

00:38:17.100 it's probably

00:38:17.560 made in

00:38:18.100 over

00:38:18.580 400

00:38:19.660 you know

00:38:20.600 congressional

00:38:21.100 districts

00:38:21.720 and

00:38:22.840 you know

00:38:24.400 if you

00:38:24.660 say

00:38:25.560 you know

00:38:26.240 if you

00:38:26.460 try to

00:38:26.880 say

00:38:27.120 this is 0.89

00:38:27.880 a shitty 0.99

00:38:28.200 airplane 0.99

00:38:28.640 which

00:38:29.220 you know

00:38:29.720 John McCain

00:38:30.320 said it was

00:38:30.780 the worst

00:38:31.140 thing he ever

00:38:31.680 saw

00:38:32.060 you can't

00:38:34.280 stop it

00:38:35.020 because

00:38:35.360 they've

00:38:36.240 politically

00:38:36.640 engineered

00:38:37.240 it

00:38:37.700 and

00:38:38.100 so

00:38:40.940 if you

00:38:41.800 I don't know

00:38:43.980 that's kind of

00:38:44.420 how it works

00:38:45.100 so

00:38:45.940 when you

00:38:46.460 tried to

00:38:47.080 put this

00:38:47.440 ad

00:38:47.620 in the

00:38:47.780 New York

00:38:47.980 Times

00:38:48.180 did put

00:38:49.380 the ad

00:38:49.660 but with

00:38:49.840 a different

00:38:50.140 headline

00:38:50.500 by the way

00:38:51.120 would they

00:38:51.340 change the

00:38:51.720 headline to

00:38:52.240 I don't

00:38:52.540 remember

00:38:52.940 but something

00:38:54.060 that didn't

00:38:54.820 tell the truth

00:38:55.480 about how

00:38:55.780 this war

00:38:56.120 started

00:38:56.380 yeah

00:38:56.860 well

00:38:57.320 the

00:38:57.760 the body

00:38:59.060 did

00:38:59.380 yeah

00:38:59.840 the body

00:39:01.140 the body

00:39:01.580 yeah

00:39:01.840 they're assuming

00:39:02.360 most people

00:39:02.800 read the

00:39:03.120 headline

00:39:03.380 right

00:39:03.700 yeah

00:39:03.940 right

00:39:04.160 right

00:39:04.460 nobody was

00:39:07.100 saying

00:39:07.380 anything

00:39:07.700 like that

00:39:08.300 then

00:39:08.620 that's

00:39:09.480 right

00:39:09.620 I know

00:39:10.080 I was

00:39:12.060 saying it

00:39:12.520 got in a lot

00:39:13.220 of trouble

00:39:13.480 for it

00:39:13.840 all right

00:39:14.300 yeah

00:39:15.500 it just

00:39:15.880 seemed

00:39:16.060 obvious

00:39:16.340 to me

00:39:16.600 but

00:39:17.000 but

00:39:18.440 very few

00:39:19.380 people were

00:39:19.880 saying

00:39:20.380 anything

00:39:20.560 like that

00:39:20.860 what kind

00:39:21.380 of response

00:39:21.840 did you

00:39:22.140 get

00:39:22.480 from people

00:39:23.000 you know

00:39:23.440 mostly

00:39:25.960 positive

00:39:26.700 and

00:39:30.640 and

00:39:31.140 and

00:39:31.560 there were

00:39:31.880 a bunch

00:39:32.320 that disagreed

00:39:33.280 you know

00:39:35.900 I

00:39:36.220 I actually

00:39:36.920 have

00:39:37.380 my

00:39:37.640 my wife

00:39:38.600 was born

00:39:41.180 in

00:39:41.620 Kyrgyzstan

00:39:42.740 which is

00:39:44.280 one of the

00:39:45.160 countries

00:39:45.900 that the

00:39:46.380 Soviet Union

00:39:48.280 had kind of

00:39:48.860 taken over

00:39:49.540 she's never

00:39:52.620 lived in Russia

00:39:53.300 but she's a 0.99

00:39:53.960 Russian speaker

00:39:54.740 yes

00:39:55.460 and

00:39:56.260 she lost

00:39:59.680 some friends

00:40:00.280 because of

00:40:01.320 the stand

00:40:01.720 that I took

00:40:02.380 against that

00:40:04.260 war in

00:40:04.840 Ukraine

00:40:05.380 really

00:40:06.320 because they

00:40:07.800 were offended

00:40:08.320 yeah

00:40:09.500 yeah

00:40:10.340 that

00:40:10.920 you know

00:40:11.780 I

00:40:12.520 I think

00:40:13.040 for

00:40:13.420 for

00:40:14.420 countries

00:40:15.020 that

00:40:15.540 live

00:40:17.700 you know

00:40:18.580 that are

00:40:18.900 located

00:40:19.360 around the

00:40:20.340 borders

00:40:20.660 of the

00:40:21.120 Soviet Union

00:40:21.900 countries

00:40:22.740 that had

00:40:23.380 been

00:40:23.760 invaded

00:40:24.400 by the

00:40:24.940 Soviet Union

00:40:25.800 and mistreated

00:40:27.060 right

00:40:27.740 they

00:40:28.960 are

00:40:29.720 really

00:40:30.840 down

00:40:31.360 on

00:40:31.940 Russia

00:40:32.400 for sure

00:40:33.140 they are

00:40:33.560 and

00:40:34.060 and they're

00:40:36.800 very down

00:40:37.560 on

00:40:38.040 socialism

00:40:39.100 and they're

00:40:40.160 very down

00:40:40.900 on

00:40:41.300 and they

00:40:44.220 and they

00:40:45.100 believe

00:40:45.720 you know

00:40:46.680 they have a

00:40:47.160 history

00:40:47.560 they've

00:40:48.240 they've been

00:40:48.880 invaded

00:40:49.320 and

00:40:50.300 they're scared

00:40:51.700 that

00:40:52.180 you know

00:40:54.060 that they're

00:40:54.460 going to get

00:40:54.860 invaded

00:40:55.260 and you

00:40:57.000 know

00:40:57.160 and

00:40:57.340 you know

00:40:59.340 their feeling

00:41:00.180 is

00:41:00.880 you know

00:41:01.740 if we

00:41:02.100 just let

00:41:02.700 Russia go 0.94

00:41:03.900 and

00:41:04.260 and

00:41:04.860 have its

00:41:05.860 way

00:41:06.180 with

00:41:06.640 with Ukraine

00:41:07.680 that

00:41:08.260 you know

00:41:09.440 they're going

00:41:10.380 to be next

00:41:11.040 of course

00:41:11.700 and I

00:41:13.080 I don't

00:41:13.540 I don't

00:41:14.000 think there's

00:41:14.600 any truth

00:41:15.120 to that

00:41:15.560 I

00:41:15.760 I think

00:41:16.960 you know

00:41:17.340 clearly

00:41:17.820 Putin

00:41:19.720 is not

00:41:20.480 doing very

00:41:21.920 well

00:41:22.620 you know

00:41:23.380 invading one

00:41:24.040 country

00:41:24.400 I don't

00:41:24.720 think he's

00:41:25.080 looking to

00:41:25.460 go

00:41:25.720 invade

00:41:26.560 another

00:41:27.000 one

00:41:27.360 he already

00:41:27.660 runs the

00:41:28.040 biggest

00:41:28.220 country

00:41:28.520 in the

00:41:28.720 world

00:41:28.940 so yeah

00:41:29.880 no I

00:41:30.720 I agree

00:41:31.840 with that

00:41:32.260 it's not

00:41:32.720 you know

00:41:33.540 praise of

00:41:34.200 Putin

00:41:34.460 to note

00:41:34.980 that there's

00:41:35.360 no evidence

00:41:35.840 he wants

00:41:36.660 territorial

00:41:37.120 expansion

00:41:37.640 at all

00:41:38.620 were there

00:41:40.680 any

00:41:40.880 politicians

00:41:41.480 so that

00:41:42.300 was like

00:41:42.560 in the

00:41:42.780 first few

00:41:43.160 months

00:41:43.500 after the

00:41:44.620 war started

00:41:45.040 that you

00:41:45.320 said this

00:41:45.780 yeah

00:41:46.160 were there

00:41:46.940 any

00:41:47.200 politicians

00:41:47.740 who were

00:41:48.420 saying

00:41:48.860 anything

00:41:49.600 like that

00:41:50.100 that you

00:41:50.380 saw

00:41:50.680 that's

00:41:52.120 interesting

00:41:52.600 because a lot

00:41:53.920 I don't

00:41:54.360 I don't

00:41:54.900 really remember

00:41:55.740 any politicians

00:41:56.620 being on

00:41:57.360 our side

00:41:57.860 no

00:41:58.360 including

00:41:59.720 ones you

00:42:00.460 knew

00:42:00.580 personally

00:42:01.020 and had

00:42:01.340 supported

00:42:01.740 in the

00:42:02.060 past

00:42:02.320 they weren't

00:42:02.800 saying

00:42:03.160 that

00:42:03.480 yeah

00:42:03.880 so that

00:42:05.100 raises

00:42:05.380 the

00:42:05.540 question

00:42:05.720 and some

00:42:06.060 of those

00:42:06.280 politicians

00:42:06.800 because you've

00:42:07.400 always been

00:42:07.760 against war

00:42:08.460 since

00:42:09.000 for the

00:42:09.980 40 years

00:42:10.360 I've paid

00:42:10.680 attention

00:42:11.040 you

00:42:12.660 were

00:42:13.740 supporting

00:42:14.120 anti-war

00:42:14.600 politicians

00:42:15.100 but they

00:42:15.500 made an

00:42:15.800 exception

00:42:16.100 for Ukraine

00:42:16.760 yeah

00:42:17.160 that's

00:42:17.740 true

00:42:18.020 what I

00:42:19.200 noticed

00:42:19.640 what was

00:42:20.280 that

00:42:20.600 about

00:42:21.420 maybe

00:42:23.980 because

00:42:24.680 there was

00:42:26.400 there was

00:42:27.080 so much

00:42:27.620 public

00:42:28.400 kind of

00:42:31.640 empathy

00:42:32.100 for

00:42:32.800 for the

00:42:33.440 people

00:42:33.800 in Ukraine

00:42:34.620 I

00:42:35.440 and

00:42:38.060 and I

00:42:38.620 think

00:42:38.920 that

00:42:39.360 a lot

00:42:42.120 of it

00:42:42.340 has to

00:42:42.780 do with

00:42:43.440 what

00:42:44.640 what

00:42:45.440 information

00:42:45.980 do people

00:42:46.500 have

00:42:46.980 yes

00:42:47.620 the

00:42:47.840 the only

00:42:48.400 information

00:42:49.020 people

00:42:49.480 had

00:42:49.920 is

00:42:50.360 Russia

00:42:51.580 came in

00:42:52.140 and

00:42:52.440 invaded

00:42:53.480 with

00:42:53.780 its

00:42:53.960 army

00:42:54.320 yes

00:42:54.840 and

00:42:55.320 they

00:42:55.740 didn't

00:42:56.140 hear

00:42:56.600 what

00:42:57.600 happened

00:42:57.920 before

00:42:58.540 what led

00:42:59.220 up to

00:42:59.620 it

00:42:59.900 and

00:43:01.720 they

00:43:01.940 didn't

00:43:02.320 think

00:43:02.840 about

00:43:03.400 you know

00:43:05.200 which

00:43:05.440 this ad

00:43:06.320 that we

00:43:06.620 ran

00:43:06.920 did

00:43:07.400 what

00:43:09.160 what would

00:43:09.760 the U.S.

00:43:10.420 do

00:43:11.060 if

00:43:12.340 if

00:43:15.500 there

00:43:15.720 were

00:43:16.240 Russian

00:43:17.740 missiles

00:43:19.240 lined up

00:43:20.220 along the

00:43:20.740 Mexican

00:43:21.120 border

00:43:21.600 aimed at

00:43:22.380 the U.S.

00:43:24.220 I mean

00:43:24.980 it's

00:43:25.700 it was the

00:43:26.280 same

00:43:26.520 situation

00:43:27.220 of course

00:43:27.740 it is

00:43:28.180 and

00:43:29.080 I've

00:43:31.720 got

00:43:31.900 no

00:43:32.440 question

00:43:33.000 that the

00:43:33.500 U.S.

00:43:34.220 would invade

00:43:34.900 and get

00:43:35.260 rid of

00:43:35.620 them

00:43:35.760 of course

00:43:36.380 we'd be

00:43:36.900 occupying

00:43:37.340 Tijuana

00:43:37.720 right now

00:43:38.320 yeah

00:43:39.380 and I

00:43:40.280 can see

00:43:40.640 why

00:43:40.960 by the

00:43:41.260 way

00:43:41.400 you

00:43:41.560 don't

00:43:41.760 want

00:43:42.180 other

00:43:42.960 people's

00:43:43.320 missiles

00:43:43.620 aimed

00:43:44.080 from

00:43:44.480 your

00:43:44.660 border

00:43:45.120 that's

00:43:45.480 pretty

00:43:45.640 close

00:43:46.140 yeah

00:43:47.160 yeah

00:43:47.980 you don't

00:43:49.180 want to

00:43:49.580 think

00:43:49.780 something

00:43:50.120 bad's

00:43:50.520 going to

00:43:50.740 happen

00:43:51.000 but you

00:43:51.300 got to

00:43:51.540 take

00:43:51.700 precautions

00:43:52.180 in case

00:43:52.620 it

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00:45:49.100 you have

00:45:52.000 access to

00:45:52.500 information

00:45:52.880 other people

00:45:53.280 didn't

00:45:53.760 uh

00:45:56.320 well

00:45:57.860 because you

00:45:58.800 said that

00:45:59.100 most people

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00:46:01.980 because they

00:46:02.480 didn't have

00:46:02.820 access

00:46:03.240 to other

00:46:04.800 perspectives

00:46:05.260 to the truth

00:46:05.880 to the history

00:46:06.940 of this

00:46:07.320 what were you

00:46:08.760 reading that

00:46:09.340 they weren't

00:46:11.040 uh

00:46:12.380 i i just

00:46:16.900 been following

00:46:17.740 the issue

00:46:18.400 over time

00:46:19.040 since

00:46:19.540 since the

00:46:21.280 fall of

00:46:22.200 the

00:46:22.720 you know

00:46:24.160 since the

00:46:24.540 end of the

00:46:24.880 cold war

00:46:25.500 yes

00:46:25.980 you know

00:46:26.720 so i

00:46:28.080 yeah so i

00:46:28.880 where do i

00:46:29.820 get the

00:46:30.720 information

00:46:31.300 uh

00:46:32.440 well this

00:46:35.600 the stuff

00:46:36.140 about the

00:46:36.620 committee to

00:46:37.120 expand nato

00:46:38.020 uh

00:46:38.760 that was in

00:46:39.500 the mainstream

00:46:39.960 press

00:46:40.600 uh

00:46:42.460 so but you

00:46:43.540 already had the

00:46:44.060 framework for

00:46:44.660 understanding this

00:46:45.460 because you've

00:46:45.820 been paying

00:46:46.180 attention to

00:46:46.860 this issue

00:46:47.420 yeah and

00:46:48.260 and you know

00:46:48.820 you think

00:46:49.260 about uh

00:46:50.820 you know

00:46:51.980 most people

00:46:53.020 it's kind of

00:46:55.540 a luxury

00:46:56.080 to to

00:46:57.100 have the

00:46:58.080 time

00:46:58.720 to pay

00:46:59.960 attention to

00:47:00.620 an issue

00:47:00.980 like this

00:47:01.620 i mean most

00:47:02.360 people

00:47:02.800 are you

00:47:04.620 know focused

00:47:05.460 on the

00:47:05.840 day-to-day

00:47:06.440 yeah you

00:47:07.320 know just

00:47:07.840 trying to get

00:47:08.520 through the

00:47:08.920 day and

00:47:10.020 uh

00:47:11.660 you know

00:47:13.200 you

00:47:13.380 the messages

00:47:15.200 that you

00:47:15.760 get

00:47:16.180 are essentially

00:47:18.120 the messages

00:47:18.840 that

00:47:19.400 the government

00:47:21.240 wants you

00:47:21.900 to get

00:47:22.320 man

00:47:24.240 i

00:47:24.740 that was

00:47:25.600 not the

00:47:26.180 way it was

00:47:26.580 supposed to

00:47:27.040 work

00:47:27.460 no it

00:47:28.600 wasn't we

00:47:29.160 were supposed

00:47:29.620 to have

00:47:30.140 freedom of

00:47:31.100 the press

00:47:31.440 but i

00:47:31.760 mean even

00:47:32.200 even when

00:47:32.800 there

00:47:33.040 i guess even

00:47:35.040 when there

00:47:35.340 was a free

00:47:35.900 press it

00:47:36.660 it was

00:47:37.420 still

00:47:37.900 very

00:47:40.660 controlled

00:47:42.480 i mean so

00:47:43.740 i say there

00:47:45.260 was a free

00:47:45.800 press

00:47:46.200 not not

00:47:49.020 that free

00:47:49.820 uh

00:47:50.720 you know

00:47:52.540 there's the i

00:47:53.480 think a lot

00:47:54.220 of times the

00:47:54.840 press is

00:47:55.500 self-censoring

00:47:57.480 yes

00:47:58.040 um

00:47:59.720 i don't know

00:48:05.660 how can you

00:48:06.260 have a democracy

00:48:07.100 without access

00:48:08.380 free access to

00:48:09.100 information

00:48:09.580 yeah i don't

00:48:12.840 think you

00:48:13.260 can

00:48:13.600 um

00:48:14.620 i mean

00:48:15.980 now

00:48:16.460 you know

00:48:17.800 with the

00:48:18.180 with the

00:48:18.580 internet

00:48:18.880 i mean

00:48:19.560 you could

00:48:19.920 say that

00:48:20.420 there is

00:48:21.040 free access

00:48:22.420 but

00:48:23.480 you really

00:48:26.640 need to

00:48:27.060 kind of

00:48:27.400 dig

00:48:27.720 and

00:48:28.120 and

00:48:28.620 you know

00:48:30.060 you get

00:48:30.480 a very

00:48:31.120 different

00:48:32.160 perspective

00:48:32.840 if you

00:48:33.340 read the

00:48:33.780 news

00:48:34.260 uh

00:48:35.460 in the

00:48:35.800 u.s

00:48:36.240 versus

00:48:36.580 if you

00:48:36.980 read the

00:48:37.360 news

00:48:37.740 in some

00:48:38.860 other

00:48:39.080 country

00:48:39.460 in the

00:48:39.760 world

00:48:40.040 you know

00:48:40.520 talking

00:48:41.080 about

00:48:41.400 the same

00:48:41.860 situation

00:48:42.540 um

00:48:44.360 so

00:48:45.820 we

00:48:46.580 get

00:48:47.040 a

00:48:47.680 u.s

00:48:48.680 centric

00:48:49.500 view

00:48:50.940 u.s

00:48:51.500 government

00:48:51.900 centric

00:48:52.520 yeah

00:48:53.180 yeah

00:48:54.060 i don't

00:48:54.720 know

00:48:54.920 i don't

00:48:55.560 personally

00:48:56.160 know

00:48:56.520 anyone

00:48:57.160 who's

00:48:57.940 volunteering

00:48:58.440 to fight

00:48:59.000 russia

00:48:59.340 and ukraine

00:48:59.940 i don't

00:49:01.100 personally

00:49:01.740 know

00:49:02.020 anybody

00:49:02.560 i've never

00:49:02.880 met

00:49:03.100 anybody

00:49:03.820 outside

00:49:05.160 of dc

00:49:05.740 who wants

00:49:06.480 another

00:49:07.060 middle eastern

00:49:07.500 war

00:49:07.960 so in

00:49:09.320 other words

00:49:09.600 the priorities

00:49:10.200 of the

00:49:10.560 government

00:49:10.920 bear no

00:49:11.400 resemblance

00:49:11.840 to the

00:49:12.040 priorities

00:49:12.300 of the

00:49:12.520 population

00:49:13.040 yes

00:49:14.080 uh

00:49:14.740 there are

00:49:15.840 uh

00:49:16.640 there are

00:49:17.880 well

00:49:18.220 well

00:49:18.820 well done

00:49:19.860 uh

00:49:20.580 rigorous

00:49:21.060 uh

00:49:22.140 studies

00:49:23.940 on that

00:49:24.520 issue

00:49:24.840 uh

00:49:25.740 that

00:49:26.120 you know

00:49:26.920 you

00:49:27.120 you look

00:49:27.620 at the

00:49:28.060 the line

00:49:29.580 of uh

00:49:30.800 what

00:49:32.160 do

00:49:32.880 regular

00:49:33.580 old

00:49:33.980 people

00:49:34.320 in the

00:49:34.660 country

00:49:34.980 want

00:49:35.640 versus

00:49:36.660 what

00:49:37.740 does

00:49:37.900 the

00:49:38.100 country

00:49:38.500 do

00:49:39.040 and

00:49:40.360 they're

00:49:40.560 not

00:49:40.880 they're

00:49:41.700 not

00:49:42.000 congruent

00:49:43.000 uh

00:49:44.000 very much

00:49:45.560 then you

00:49:46.660 look at

00:49:47.200 the line

00:49:48.300 of

00:49:48.720 what

00:49:50.080 do

00:49:50.560 the

00:49:51.880 elites

00:49:52.300 want

00:49:52.760 what

00:49:53.040 do

00:49:53.160 the

00:49:53.420 really

00:49:53.860 wealthy

00:49:54.280 people

00:49:54.680 and

00:49:54.840 corporations

00:49:55.320 want

00:49:55.740 and what

00:49:55.980 does

00:49:56.100 the

00:49:56.240 country

00:49:56.540 do

00:49:56.840 and it's

00:49:57.340 much

00:49:57.860 more

00:49:58.100 aligned

00:49:58.540 so on

00:49:59.080 Ukraine

00:49:59.560 your position

00:50:00.500 i'll just be

00:50:00.880 totally blunt

00:50:01.440 is like

00:50:01.800 totally

00:50:02.500 unfashionable

00:50:03.300 it's like the

00:50:03.880 least fashionable

00:50:04.480 position you

00:50:05.060 could ever

00:50:05.400 take

00:50:05.800 yeah well i was

00:50:07.820 never really a

00:50:08.720 fashion maiden

00:50:09.480 but this is

00:50:10.220 this is

00:50:10.980 anti-fashion

00:50:11.960 this is like

00:50:13.540 this is a way to

00:50:14.760 get called really

00:50:15.740 pretty slanderous

00:50:17.600 names

00:50:18.240 it's a way to

00:50:19.740 break up

00:50:20.060 friendships

00:50:20.400 as you said

00:50:21.200 your wife

00:50:21.760 lost friends

00:50:22.240 over this

00:50:22.620 so it's like

00:50:23.620 why why would

00:50:25.820 you do that

00:50:26.400 why not just

00:50:26.900 sit this one

00:50:27.440 out

00:50:27.800 uh

00:50:31.820 do i want

00:50:36.680 well

00:50:37.080 i don't know

00:50:38.580 it's it's

00:50:39.120 about

00:50:39.460 standing up

00:50:41.260 for what

00:50:41.620 you believe

00:50:42.180 in

00:50:42.560 uh

00:50:43.480 i mean

00:50:45.420 i'm for

00:50:46.720 a ceasefire

00:50:48.440 i'm for

00:50:50.020 you know

00:50:51.760 you would

00:50:52.440 think

00:50:52.840 i'm

00:50:53.540 most people

00:50:54.680 would be

00:50:55.380 uh

00:50:55.960 in favor

00:50:56.480 of a

00:50:56.820 ceasefire

00:50:57.320 i mean

00:50:57.660 we don't

00:50:58.040 want to

00:50:58.360 keep on 0.99

00:50:58.760 killing 1.00

00:50:59.000 people 0.99

00:50:59.440 i'm not

00:51:00.500 i'm not

00:51:01.360 a putin

00:51:01.740 supporter

00:51:02.160 i'm not

00:51:02.820 a zelensky

00:51:03.640 supporter

00:51:04.120 i'm i'm

00:51:05.260 a supporter

00:51:05.840 of

00:51:06.240 not

00:51:08.280 not killing

00:51:10.820 each other

00:51:11.400 and not

00:51:12.220 using uh

00:51:14.620 our resources

00:51:15.580 to

00:51:16.580 to to have

00:51:19.760 actual wars

00:51:20.660 to supply

00:51:21.260 weapons for

00:51:21.940 wars

00:51:22.520 or um

00:51:24.100 to settle

00:51:25.560 our problems

00:51:26.280 through

00:51:26.780 through that

00:51:27.620 means

00:51:27.920 i mean

00:51:28.200 i i

00:51:28.780 it just

00:51:30.380 why can't

00:51:31.740 we cut

00:51:32.120 to the

00:51:32.460 chase

00:51:32.900 and assume

00:51:34.200 the war's

00:51:34.700 over

00:51:35.040 and have

00:51:36.660 have a

00:51:37.160 negotiated

00:51:37.740 settlement

00:51:38.940 why do we

00:51:39.560 have to 0.64

00:51:39.940 kill 1.00

00:51:40.200 a few 1.00

00:51:41.080 hundred

00:51:41.300 thousand

00:51:41.800 mothers

00:51:42.840 fathers

00:51:43.580 sisters

00:51:44.280 brothers

00:51:44.840 sons and

00:51:45.520 daughters

00:51:45.840 in in

00:51:47.880 the process

00:51:48.620 there's

00:51:49.400 there's

00:51:49.420 there's

00:51:49.440 also

00:51:49.680 a sense

00:51:50.540 in which

00:51:51.060 there's

00:51:51.400 like a

00:51:51.680 suicidal

00:51:52.120 impulse

00:51:52.620 at work

00:51:53.060 here

00:51:53.260 because

00:51:53.560 for

00:51:54.020 most of

00:51:55.200 three years

00:51:55.640 we were

00:51:56.080 closer than we've

00:51:57.100 ever been to a

00:51:57.800 nuclear conflict

00:51:58.800 like an exchange of nuclear warheads

00:52:01.020 where the most of the earth's population dies

00:52:04.220 that's factually true

00:52:06.140 i think

00:52:06.640 and the

00:52:08.480 i think

00:52:09.100 planners the pentagon understood that

00:52:11.320 and they press forward anyway

00:52:12.980 do you think that the average american understands how close we have been to nuclear war

00:52:18.920 no i think i think they've heard that we've been close but they don't have the details

00:52:27.220 what why why do you think that people who plan these things and push these things

00:52:33.160 don't seem to care about the risk of

00:52:36.940 annihilating everyone on the planet

00:52:39.100 i think uh most people involved in the process are not uh are playing little roles in the process they're just trying to do their small part well

00:52:55.480 yes

00:52:56.220 and uh they're not you know they're they're not looking at the at the at the bigger picture

00:53:04.860 i think that's exactly right

00:53:06.040 they're just cogs

00:53:07.900 yeah

00:53:08.480 but the machine itself is moving towards something awful but they don't have that picture they just know

00:53:13.320 their role

00:53:14.580 yeah

00:53:15.160 huh

00:53:16.580 um

00:53:17.940 who do you

00:53:20.380 you said there are no politicians who are saying what you believe

00:53:23.800 is there

00:53:25.740 who

00:53:26.420 whose opinion on this do you respect

00:53:28.340 on the rushy crane question

00:53:30.380 uh

00:53:33.620 larry wilkerson jeff sacks

00:53:37.780 yes

00:53:38.280 um

00:53:39.440 i guess those are the

00:53:42.400 those are the two that come to mind

00:53:44.340 um

00:53:45.740 given that you were i think we're right about

00:53:47.680 russia ukraine

00:53:49.000 clearly

00:53:49.700 if there had been a ceasefire

00:53:50.780 in the spring of 2022

00:53:52.680 you know

00:53:53.340 probably a million people would still be alive

00:53:55.300 and ukraine wouldn't be destroyed 0.90

00:53:56.420 and we'd still be in the same place

00:53:57.820 so like

00:53:58.220 why didn't we do that

00:53:59.240 given that you called that correctly i think

00:54:01.740 where do you think we're going on iran

00:54:04.180 it sounds like we're

00:54:08.400 kind of headed toward

00:54:09.680 war

00:54:10.440 why do you think that is

00:54:13.780 well

00:54:16.880 i

00:54:18.340 there seems to be

00:54:20.600 some

00:54:22.280 kind of

00:54:24.340 strange relationship

00:54:27.960 between

00:54:28.800 uh

00:54:29.740 israel and the u.s

00:54:31.820 uh

00:54:33.560 where

00:54:35.980 i don't know

00:54:38.780 israel

00:54:39.460 now

00:54:40.780 has the u.s

00:54:42.640 supplying weapons for its genocide

00:54:47.940 and

00:54:49.680 and

00:54:50.880 what i'm told

00:54:52.700 is that

00:54:54.240 israel wants

00:54:56.200 some concept of greater israel

00:54:58.700 i mean i don't really know much about that

00:55:00.760 uh

00:55:01.960 do you think the u.s faces a threat from iran

00:55:04.160 no

00:55:05.360 i don't

00:55:06.340 no

00:55:07.260 i think that's absurd

00:55:08.420 i think

00:55:09.400 you know

00:55:10.460 iran has

00:55:12.100 a pentagon budget

00:55:13.680 well not a pentagon

00:55:14.740 their military budget is like

00:55:16.400 seven billion dollars

00:55:18.220 our pentagon budget is

00:55:21.120 darn close to a trillion

00:55:22.960 so 0.63

00:55:24.160 i

00:55:25.840 i don't think that

00:55:27.540 uh

00:55:28.300 i mean

00:55:29.300 what is iran gonna

00:55:31.960 uh

00:55:32.900 invade the u.s 0.81

00:55:35.020 i

00:55:35.860 i don't think so

00:55:36.980 why

00:55:39.980 um

00:55:40.640 you sold your company

00:55:42.240 it was bought

00:55:42.940 by unilever

00:55:43.780 i think like 25 years ago

00:55:45.600 yeah

00:55:46.900 um

00:55:48.100 did you consider buying a vineyard

00:55:49.880 no

00:55:51.080 no

00:55:51.820 how about you

00:55:53.220 no i can't afford a vineyard

00:55:55.000 no vineyard

00:55:56.200 i don't even drink

00:55:57.200 so

00:55:57.540 kind of out of the vineyard business

00:55:59.040 but um

00:56:00.100 why did you decide to spend

00:56:02.680 the last 25 years on the issue of

00:56:05.580 war

00:56:06.680 uh

00:56:09.680 it's more on the issue of

00:56:12.740 um

00:56:14.360 kind of the

00:56:17.060 the spirit and the soul

00:56:19.960 of

00:56:20.700 our country

00:56:22.280 uh

00:56:23.660 you know

00:56:25.520 there was a pope

00:56:27.400 who said that

00:56:28.680 even if the weapons

00:56:30.860 are never used

00:56:32.120 the arms race

00:56:33.900 kills the poor

00:56:35.200 by causing them

00:56:36.120 to starve

00:56:36.860 i'm

00:56:39.880 amazed at

00:56:41.940 how much money

00:56:44.000 the united states has

00:56:46.020 we have a shitload

00:56:48.640 of money

00:56:49.180 is that a

00:56:50.580 technical assessment

00:56:51.580 yeah

00:56:52.100 we

00:56:53.000 we have

00:56:54.300 enough money

00:56:55.560 to

00:56:56.720 solve

00:56:58.520 health problems

00:56:59.380 for

00:56:59.920 people in our country

00:57:01.260 and all over the world

00:57:02.480 we have enough to

00:57:03.600 end hunger

00:57:05.120 in our country

00:57:06.100 and all over the world

00:57:07.720 we have enough to

00:57:09.420 get rid of lead poisoning

00:57:11.400 uh

00:57:12.640 the

00:57:14.140 the

00:57:14.660 the

00:57:15.500 the

00:57:15.920 the

00:57:16.540 uh

00:57:17.060 the gargantuaness

00:57:19.420 of the

00:57:20.440 amounts of money

00:57:21.520 that we have

00:57:22.640 you can't

00:57:24.780 fathom it

00:57:25.400 and uh

00:57:27.000 we're choosing

00:57:29.100 to spend it

00:57:30.420 on

00:57:31.180 creating

00:57:33.580 more

00:57:34.940 and better

00:57:36.020 ways 0.94

00:57:36.740 to kill 1.00

00:57:37.740 more and more 1.00

00:57:38.680 people

00:57:39.140 it's

00:57:40.880 such

00:57:41.920 an

00:57:42.400 incredible

00:57:43.160 waste

00:57:43.800 it's

00:57:44.820 uh

00:57:46.200 you know

00:57:47.020 i i believe

00:57:48.100 that we are

00:57:49.040 all interconnected

00:57:50.240 as we help

00:57:51.660 others

00:57:52.100 we actually

00:57:53.180 help ourselves

00:57:54.180 uh

00:57:55.880 and

00:57:58.100 all this

00:58:00.760 money

00:58:01.180 that's going

00:58:02.560 into the

00:58:03.080 pentagon 1.00

00:58:03.600 is sucking 1.00

00:58:04.520 money

00:58:04.980 out of

00:58:05.900 things that

00:58:06.920 people really

00:58:07.740 want and

00:58:08.240 need

00:58:08.620 it could

00:58:09.920 be

00:58:10.340 improving

00:58:11.340 your

00:58:11.620 your

00:58:12.300 libraries

00:58:12.900 your

00:58:13.260 schools

00:58:13.820 your

00:58:14.260 your

00:58:14.940 sports

00:58:15.600 uh

00:58:16.520 arenas

00:58:17.140 uh

00:58:18.460 it could

00:58:19.100 be paying

00:58:19.600 for college

00:58:20.720 for your

00:58:21.080 kids

00:58:21.440 trade school

00:58:22.220 for your

00:58:22.680 kids

00:58:23.160 you

00:58:25.720 you have

00:58:26.800 a better

00:58:27.260 car

00:58:28.260 i mean

00:58:29.040 what is

00:58:30.020 it that

00:58:30.460 what do

00:58:32.060 people want

00:58:32.880 it

00:58:33.740 it's not

00:58:34.560 more weapons

00:58:35.380 no it's

00:58:36.300 not

00:58:36.560 uh

00:58:38.200 and and

00:58:39.480 our our

00:58:40.140 country needs

00:58:40.980 to start

00:58:41.760 measuring

00:58:43.080 its strength

00:58:44.380 by

00:58:45.140 how many

00:58:46.900 people it

00:58:47.620 can help

00:58:48.740 as opposed

00:58:49.600 to how many

00:58:50.100 people it

00:58:50.640 can kill

00:58:51.120 and and i 1.00

00:58:52.460 would say

00:58:53.000 it would

00:58:54.080 actually

00:58:54.520 make our

00:58:55.880 country more

00:58:56.540 secure

00:58:57.060 okay so it's

00:58:58.040 time for an

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00:58:59.100 your loved ones

00:58:59.740 are here and

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00:59:50.940 plan

00:59:51.400 we can tell you

00:59:53.060 it's a good

00:59:53.640 deal and you'll

00:59:54.180 be happy you

00:59:54.620 did it

00:59:54.980 you saw

00:59:56.900 people you

00:59:58.180 know just as

00:59:58.840 recently as a

00:59:59.580 few months ago

01:00:00.240 say we

01:00:01.980 actually benefit

01:00:02.840 from sending

01:00:03.360 billions to

01:00:03.980 ukraine because

01:00:04.980 that money goes

01:00:06.200 first through

01:00:07.040 american companies

01:00:08.660 right i i've

01:00:12.420 heard politicians

01:00:13.340 say that

01:00:14.440 yeah this is

01:00:16.260 great man

01:00:17.180 we're we're

01:00:18.140 we're employing

01:00:19.240 our people

01:00:19.900 we're we're

01:00:20.640 keeping our

01:00:21.240 weapons production

01:00:22.160 lines humming

01:00:23.160 and we're

01:00:24.500 degrading the

01:00:26.320 uh military

01:00:27.500 of our

01:00:29.440 enemy

01:00:29.980 russia

01:00:31.180 and

01:00:32.360 it is

01:00:34.100 such

01:00:34.860 uh

01:00:36.360 sacrilegious

01:00:38.460 reasoning

01:00:39.160 uh

01:00:40.580 you need to

01:00:45.500 think about

01:00:46.100 our spirit

01:00:46.940 and our soul

01:00:47.860 what it means

01:00:48.900 to be an

01:00:49.400 american

01:00:49.800 uh

01:00:50.900 you know

01:00:52.240 right now

01:00:52.880 what it means

01:00:53.480 to be american

01:00:54.220 is that

01:00:55.240 we are the

01:00:56.280 world's largest

01:00:57.220 arms exporter

01:00:58.500 we have the

01:00:59.920 largest military

01:01:01.120 in the united

01:01:02.260 in the world

01:01:03.260 uh

01:01:04.760 we support

01:01:06.180 uh

01:01:07.240 the slaughter

01:01:08.660 of of people

01:01:10.200 in gaza

01:01:10.920 if somebody

01:01:12.900 protests

01:01:13.720 the slaughter

01:01:14.640 of people in gaza

01:01:15.700 we arrest them

01:01:16.660 what does our

01:01:17.460 country stand

01:01:18.180 for

01:01:18.520 uh

01:01:20.820 i don't know

01:01:23.100 i mean

01:01:23.540 you know

01:01:24.120 people say

01:01:24.640 the budget

01:01:25.380 is a moral

01:01:25.960 document

01:01:26.480 uh

01:01:27.580 see where

01:01:28.480 you're

01:01:28.700 see where

01:01:29.380 you're spending

01:01:29.760 your money

01:01:30.260 and that's

01:01:31.080 what your

01:01:31.420 values are

01:01:32.240 it hurts

01:01:36.260 me to say

01:01:36.940 that

01:01:37.540 uh

01:01:38.200 the values

01:01:39.820 of our

01:01:40.380 country

01:01:40.800 seem to

01:01:41.460 be

01:01:42.900 um

01:01:43.600 military

01:01:46.240 domination

01:01:47.080 well

01:01:50.000 that's it

01:01:51.100 the

01:01:52.900 impulse

01:01:54.320 that drives

01:01:54.880 this

01:01:55.300 um

01:01:56.120 is money

01:01:57.080 right

01:01:57.940 people want

01:01:58.560 money

01:01:58.840 so

01:02:00.000 you're an

01:02:00.600 interesting

01:02:00.820 person to ask

01:02:01.580 since

01:02:02.020 you know

01:02:02.920 you

01:02:03.160 you didn't

01:02:03.660 grow up

01:02:03.940 rich

01:02:04.240 you've had

01:02:05.600 times when you

01:02:06.040 were poor

01:02:06.380 then you

01:02:06.720 got rich

01:02:07.280 selling the

01:02:08.540 best ice cream

01:02:09.140 there is

01:02:09.580 um

01:02:10.200 so you've

01:02:10.980 kind of

01:02:11.180 seen the

01:02:11.580 money thing

01:02:11.960 from both

01:02:12.400 ends

01:02:12.900 do you

01:02:14.060 think that

01:02:15.000 people put

01:02:16.380 too much

01:02:16.800 emphasis on

01:02:17.520 money

01:02:18.140 well

01:02:20.320 part of

01:02:21.480 what got

01:02:21.920 me

01:02:22.420 uh

01:02:23.720 interested

01:02:24.500 in this

01:02:24.960 issue

01:02:25.420 is that

01:02:26.660 you know

01:02:27.600 you talk

01:02:28.220 about these

01:02:28.740 large numbers

01:02:29.660 like

01:02:30.300 uh

01:02:31.800 300

01:02:32.680 million

01:02:33.300 uh

01:02:34.460 500

01:02:35.740 million

01:02:36.400 a billion

01:02:37.140 uh

01:02:38.240 100

01:02:39.100 billion

01:02:39.600 uh

01:02:41.100 800

01:02:41.640 billion

01:02:42.120 nobody

01:02:42.940 has

01:02:43.560 any

01:02:44.100 idea

01:02:44.820 what

01:02:45.480 the

01:02:45.960 size

01:02:46.340 of

01:02:46.500 that

01:02:46.720 is

01:02:47.160 it's

01:02:47.780 it's

01:02:48.360 just

01:02:48.540 like

01:02:48.840 more

01:02:49.840 money

01:02:50.140 than

01:02:50.360 you

01:02:50.500 could

01:02:50.660 ever

01:02:50.880 imagine

01:02:51.360 yeah

01:02:51.760 i have

01:02:52.240 no

01:02:52.380 perspective

01:02:52.780 at all

01:02:53.120 on that

01:02:53.420 and

01:02:53.720 and so

01:02:54.700 when

01:02:56.240 ben and jerry's

01:02:56.860 was sold

01:02:57.560 it had

01:02:58.620 uh

01:02:59.440 it

01:03:00.040 it came up

01:03:00.900 to a level

01:03:01.420 of 300

01:03:02.240 million dollars

01:03:03.520 in sales

01:03:04.120 and so

01:03:06.040 i started

01:03:06.660 having a

01:03:07.260 feeling for

01:03:08.000 how much

01:03:08.920 money that

01:03:09.540 is

01:03:09.920 and then

01:03:10.620 i realized

01:03:11.200 that

01:03:11.560 three times

01:03:13.040 that

01:03:13.380 that's

01:03:14.420 about a

01:03:14.820 billion

01:03:15.160 and so

01:03:17.260 i vaguely

01:03:18.260 got a

01:03:18.860 handle

01:03:20.080 on

01:03:20.600 what

01:03:22.500 quantity

01:03:23.100 that is

01:03:23.960 and

01:03:24.780 you know

01:03:26.140 a billion

01:03:26.800 is

01:03:27.900 an

01:03:29.820 unfathomably

01:03:30.740 large

01:03:31.460 number

01:03:32.060 if you

01:03:33.600 counted

01:03:34.140 every

01:03:35.100 second

01:03:35.680 since you

01:03:36.460 were born

01:03:37.200 you would

01:03:39.300 be 32

01:03:40.160 years old

01:03:41.600 before you

01:03:42.660 lived

01:03:43.660 a billion

01:03:44.960 seconds

01:03:45.640 it is

01:03:47.780 a lot

01:03:48.260 of seconds

01:03:48.840 and

01:03:50.860 uh

01:03:51.580 that's

01:03:52.260 just

01:03:52.420 one

01:03:52.700 billion

01:03:53.080 so

01:03:54.580 the

01:03:56.020 pentagon

01:03:56.420 budget

01:03:56.840 is now

01:03:58.620 a trillion

01:04:00.380 a thousand

01:04:02.680 billion

01:04:03.840 you know

01:04:06.820 when you

01:04:07.460 in pentagon

01:04:08.840 speak

01:04:09.340 well i don't

01:04:11.080 know it's a few

01:04:11.780 aircraft carriers

01:04:12.720 uh it's another

01:04:14.040 uh fighter jet

01:04:15.720 uh generation 0.98

01:04:17.040 of fighter jets

01:04:18.040 whatever

01:04:19.640 whatever

01:04:20.220 but

01:04:20.820 in regular

01:04:22.640 speak

01:04:23.300 here's a good

01:04:26.260 example

01:04:26.800 uh

01:04:27.660 i wrote it

01:04:28.920 down

01:04:29.240 because i

01:04:29.720 thought you

01:04:30.040 might be

01:04:30.380 asking

01:04:30.740 there was

01:04:33.500 recently

01:04:34.080 uh a

01:04:35.680 fighter jet

01:04:36.300 that

01:04:36.760 that fell

01:04:37.780 off

01:04:38.220 uh

01:04:39.000 an aircraft

01:04:40.060 carrier

01:04:40.540 so

01:04:42.280 it was

01:04:43.540 uh

01:04:44.280 a 70

01:04:45.200 million

01:04:47.100 dollar

01:04:47.760 fighter jet

01:04:49.020 so

01:04:50.240 you know

01:04:51.960 that sounds

01:04:52.960 kind of dramatic

01:04:53.680 that you know

01:04:54.620 a 70 million

01:04:55.340 dollar

01:04:55.760 fighter jet

01:04:57.000 uh

01:04:57.880 fell off

01:04:58.360 an aircraft

01:04:58.880 carrier

01:04:59.340 but

01:05:00.800 if you think

01:05:02.060 about the

01:05:02.540 pentagon budget

01:05:03.420 as a box

01:05:05.200 of cheerios

01:05:06.140 that

01:05:08.360 70

01:05:09.160 billion

01:05:09.660 dollars

01:05:10.380 would be

01:05:11.680 one tenth

01:05:12.640 of one

01:05:13.840 cheerio

01:05:14.380 which is

01:05:17.820 enough money

01:05:18.920 if you take it

01:05:19.800 out of the

01:05:20.380 pentagon

01:05:20.900 to build

01:05:22.480 two new

01:05:23.260 hospitals

01:05:23.780 in west

01:05:24.340 virginia

01:05:24.900 so

01:05:28.180 what's

01:05:29.940 crumbs

01:05:30.280 to the

01:05:30.700 pentagon

01:05:31.220 can

01:05:33.020 can really

01:05:33.780 provide some

01:05:34.420 real stuff

01:05:35.260 that we

01:05:35.720 need

01:05:36.280 here in

01:05:37.440 the u.s

01:05:38.040 why

01:05:41.720 i mean

01:05:43.560 so you're

01:05:43.920 describing a

01:05:44.440 system that

01:05:45.060 like

01:05:45.420 basically can't

01:05:46.720 be changed

01:05:47.480 because i don't

01:05:48.460 know

01:05:48.680 no i'm in the

01:05:49.400 process of

01:05:49.900 changing it

01:05:50.540 okay

01:05:51.280 so you think

01:05:52.600 that democratic

01:05:53.340 levers still

01:05:53.940 work in a

01:05:54.540 non-democratic

01:05:55.140 system

01:05:55.600 well

01:05:56.740 i think

01:05:58.640 that the

01:05:59.620 only lever

01:06:00.240 that works

01:06:01.200 is uh

01:06:02.940 public

01:06:03.380 opinion

01:06:03.820 so uh

01:06:06.100 i'm in the

01:06:07.920 process of

01:06:08.820 starting up

01:06:09.580 a campaign

01:06:11.240 which is

01:06:11.780 called

01:06:12.160 common sense

01:06:12.860 defense at

01:06:13.600 the moment

01:06:13.980 we're going

01:06:14.380 to get a

01:06:14.760 flashier name

01:06:15.520 later but

01:06:16.100 right now

01:06:16.760 it's common

01:06:17.160 sense

01:06:17.460 that's pretty

01:06:17.940 flashy

01:06:18.300 thank you

01:06:19.080 common sense

01:06:19.760 defense yeah

01:06:20.400 be a nice

01:06:21.320 change

01:06:21.780 uh

01:06:22.860 and uh

01:06:25.160 and it is a

01:06:26.460 campaign that's

01:06:27.400 aimed

01:06:27.840 just directly at

01:06:30.160 the public

01:06:30.700 we're not

01:06:31.260 trying to

01:06:32.100 lobby congress

01:06:33.860 we're not

01:06:34.420 trying to

01:06:35.220 influence that

01:06:36.200 we're trying

01:06:36.640 to change

01:06:38.040 public opinion

01:06:39.000 in terms of

01:06:40.660 um what we

01:06:43.480 want our

01:06:44.040 government to

01:06:44.720 be spending

01:06:45.820 its money on

01:06:46.620 or at least

01:06:47.480 not spending

01:06:48.840 its money

01:06:49.420 on excessive

01:06:50.800 uh

01:06:52.280 weapons

01:06:53.800 uh

01:06:56.240 yeah so

01:06:57.160 yeah i

01:06:58.500 believe i

01:06:58.980 believe that

01:06:59.700 the the

01:07:00.440 thing that

01:07:00.920 can change

01:07:01.500 it and

01:07:01.940 you know

01:07:02.640 and this

01:07:02.980 is from

01:07:03.480 my experience

01:07:05.320 of my time

01:07:06.360 going around

01:07:07.000 lobbying on

01:07:07.860 congress

01:07:08.300 on capitol hill

01:07:09.700 uh about this

01:07:11.360 issue uh

01:07:11.960 you know i

01:07:12.880 think that's

01:07:13.340 hopeless

01:07:13.660 uh i mean

01:07:15.620 i think all

01:07:16.400 we can do

01:07:17.020 is

01:07:17.620 we think it's

01:07:18.720 hopeless to

01:07:19.180 lobby the

01:07:19.540 congress

01:07:19.880 yeah

01:07:20.340 uh you

01:07:21.200 know

01:07:21.360 hopeless for

01:07:22.100 a guy who's

01:07:22.780 not handing

01:07:23.580 out hundreds

01:07:24.800 of thousands

01:07:25.320 of dollars

01:07:26.160 did what was

01:07:27.260 your experience

01:07:27.840 you actually

01:07:28.220 went to

01:07:28.700 washington

01:07:29.080 i went to

01:07:30.200 washington

01:07:30.760 i talked to

01:07:31.860 those politicians

01:07:32.740 you know

01:07:33.480 they smile

01:07:35.180 and they say

01:07:35.760 nice things

01:07:36.320 and they take

01:07:36.820 a picture

01:07:37.240 and then

01:07:37.780 they uh

01:07:38.640 and then they

01:07:40.020 just vote

01:07:40.900 and rubber

01:07:41.340 stamp

01:07:41.740 whatever

01:07:42.740 pentagon bill

01:07:44.080 comes in

01:07:44.820 because

01:07:45.220 they don't

01:07:47.080 want their

01:07:47.580 opponent to

01:07:48.220 call them

01:07:48.600 weak on

01:07:49.220 defense

01:07:49.720 so there

01:07:52.340 were none

01:07:52.880 that you

01:07:53.360 would trust

01:07:53.860 uh i

01:07:55.820 wouldn't say

01:07:56.280 that uh

01:07:57.440 you know

01:07:58.480 i think i

01:07:59.180 think there's

01:07:59.660 a guy

01:08:00.160 you know

01:08:00.840 there's

01:08:01.540 there

01:08:02.660 no i

01:08:04.080 wouldn't say

01:08:04.500 there's none

01:08:05.120 i mean i i

01:08:05.900 i think there's

01:08:06.720 i don't know

01:08:07.240 20 30

01:08:09.540 yeah

01:08:10.180 do you think

01:08:12.900 that part of

01:08:13.540 the problem

01:08:14.040 with ukraine

01:08:15.020 war was 0.89

01:08:16.180 trump was

01:08:16.960 against it

01:08:17.640 and that

01:08:19.120 made it

01:08:19.400 hard for

01:08:19.880 people who

01:08:20.600 hated trump

01:08:21.100 to say

01:08:21.460 i'm against

01:08:21.900 it too

01:08:22.320 uh

01:08:25.780 i wasn't

01:08:28.180 i don't

01:08:29.940 really know

01:08:30.620 about that

01:08:31.080 i mean i

01:08:31.480 didn't

01:08:32.160 i wasn't

01:08:33.140 conscious of

01:08:33.760 that

01:08:34.000 myself

01:08:34.780 i mean i

01:08:36.300 know that

01:08:36.900 uh

01:08:37.780 you know

01:08:39.640 for i

01:08:40.180 know i

01:08:40.560 know that

01:08:40.880 for some

01:08:41.560 democrats

01:08:43.420 you know

01:08:44.560 anything

01:08:45.340 that

01:08:45.820 trump

01:08:47.220 supports

01:08:47.940 they

01:08:48.200 don't

01:08:48.900 yeah

01:08:49.180 uh

01:08:49.980 but

01:08:51.580 i'm not

01:08:52.960 aware of

01:08:53.460 that as

01:08:54.200 being an

01:08:54.980 issue with

01:08:55.440 related to

01:08:56.440 the ukraine

01:08:57.160 war

01:08:57.500 you were

01:08:59.100 saying that

01:08:59.800 you think

01:09:00.600 there's

01:09:00.820 something

01:09:01.020 sacrilegious

01:09:02.080 about

01:09:02.760 basic and

01:09:04.060 economy on

01:09:04.640 weapons

01:09:05.120 yeah i

01:09:06.540 really do

01:09:07.160 so are

01:09:08.420 are you

01:09:09.640 driven by

01:09:10.040 your

01:09:10.220 spiritual

01:09:10.560 beliefs

01:09:10.980 uh

01:09:13.540 i'm

01:09:15.340 mostly

01:09:15.880 driven

01:09:16.280 by

01:09:16.880 uh

01:09:19.240 you know

01:09:20.720 just

01:09:20.940 just

01:09:21.440 just a

01:09:22.640 concern

01:09:23.080 for people

01:09:23.980 uh

01:09:25.140 i mean

01:09:26.100 i i

01:09:26.580 don't

01:09:26.900 in terms

01:09:28.440 of a

01:09:28.780 spiritual

01:09:29.220 belief

01:09:29.740 i mean

01:09:30.000 i i

01:09:30.500 don't

01:09:30.740 practice

01:09:31.280 a religion

01:09:31.840 uh

01:09:32.840 i was

01:09:33.520 born a

01:09:34.220 jew 0.99

01:09:34.520 uh

01:09:36.140 i love

01:09:38.120 jesus christ

01:09:39.060 i think the

01:09:40.280 words that

01:09:41.060 he said

01:09:41.780 are

01:09:42.500 wonderful

01:09:45.700 are

01:09:46.260 amazing

01:09:47.080 uh

01:09:47.980 and

01:09:49.420 uh

01:09:50.160 you know

01:09:51.540 i'm

01:09:52.060 i'm

01:09:52.500 kind

01:09:52.720 of

01:09:52.880 distressed

01:09:53.560 that

01:09:54.080 uh

01:09:54.820 a lot

01:09:55.880 of

01:09:56.020 organized

01:09:56.760 christian

01:09:57.700 religions

01:09:58.120 are not

01:09:58.700 really

01:09:59.220 um

01:10:00.760 i don't

01:10:01.700 know

01:10:01.880 abiding

01:10:02.340 by the

01:10:02.760 words

01:10:03.000 of jesus

01:10:03.480 christ

01:10:03.940 uh

01:10:05.020 i am

01:10:05.440 too

01:10:05.660 i'm

01:10:06.100 i'm

01:10:06.440 friends

01:10:06.820 with

01:10:07.460 uh

01:10:07.960 a guy

01:10:08.340 named

01:10:08.560 shane

01:10:09.080 claiborne

01:10:10.040 who's

01:10:10.440 a uh

01:10:11.200 a theologian

01:10:12.480 and

01:10:12.800 uh

01:10:13.460 he

01:10:14.760 you know

01:10:16.480 a christian

01:10:17.540 uh

01:10:18.060 well he

01:10:18.560 calls himself

01:10:19.260 a red

01:10:19.740 letter

01:10:20.040 christian

01:10:20.600 and he's

01:10:21.320 got a

01:10:21.640 group

01:10:21.880 called

01:10:22.200 bread

01:10:22.440 letter

01:10:22.660 christians

01:10:23.200 there's

01:10:23.520 other

01:10:23.920 theologians

01:10:25.300 red

01:10:25.600 letters

01:10:26.000 refer to

01:10:26.500 the

01:10:26.700 red

01:10:26.980 letters

01:10:27.220 the new

01:10:27.520 testament

01:10:27.860 connoting

01:10:28.440 jesus's

01:10:28.980 words

01:10:29.140 exactly

01:10:29.780 uh

01:10:31.040 and

01:10:32.380 you know

01:10:33.100 he lives

01:10:33.600 and works

01:10:34.060 in a

01:10:34.540 in a

01:10:35.020 inner

01:10:35.280 city

01:10:35.600 philadelphia

01:10:36.280 in a

01:10:36.740 really

01:10:37.060 low

01:10:38.040 low

01:10:38.380 income

01:10:38.620 area

01:10:39.020 and he's

01:10:39.660 you know

01:10:40.920 that's his

01:10:41.480 work

01:10:41.820 he's

01:10:42.160 he's

01:10:42.380 working

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01:10:43.040 people

01:10:43.360 there

01:10:43.680 but

01:10:44.520 yeah

01:10:45.740 i

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01:10:50.460 words

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01:10:52.180 christ

01:10:52.660 and

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01:10:57.280 on the mount

01:10:57.960 and

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01:11:04.920 no

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01:11:07.860 know if

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01:11:09.040 ben

01:11:10.000 cohen

01:11:10.200 thank you

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The Tucker Carlson Show - May 05, 2025

Ben of Ben & Jerry’s Exposes the Motives Behind War With Russia & the Politicians That Sold Out

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